The military did rebuild many of the battle damaged or worn out M1’s using whatever parts were on hand. They didn’t care who made the parts or if they matched that receiver or not. So, you can have a mismatched rifle and it is still an authentic and original military M1 carbine.
Great video.... We recently found my Great Grandpa’s M1 hidden in my grandmother’s house and I will use this video to check our the history of this great firearm!!!!
Givin er eh the bayonet lug was a very very late war addition to the carbine and it’s debated how many of them actually made it over seas. Most bayonet lugs were added after WW2 as apart of arsenal refurbishment
The bayonet lugs we’re made standard late 1944 early 1945 if I’m correct but we’re only made by inland Winchester and 1 or 2 others so if 1944-45 marked could still be an original ww2 one
Should have bought a Rock ola i saw at an auction recently, that one would of had it. I got an Inland but I now know the sight is a type 2 is original and the gun isn't refinished.
In the process of changing out some parts on my six(6) digit serial number Inland. Barrel is marked 8-43. The serial number range is 571,6xx. Not sure but I’m thinking this is an early production gun maybe 43-44. Barrel is excellent with great lands and grooves and an excellent shooter. Looking for a nice Inland marked high wood stock set.
You are in luck. Don't ever get rid of it. I've got an Inland in the low 5m range also with a 6/44 barrel. Tack driver. Lately the things are going for 3k and up.
Hello I have a manufactured Inland march 1945 with 12/44 dated barrel. The type 2 milled rear sight ha IH marked on right side. Is it original since it has IH ? Thanks
Inland receiver with 1944 serial number. type 3 sight but i dont see stake marks like in the video at 8:40. A little unclear as to whether they are expected or not.
So I have a reproduction m1 made in 1963 with ww2 war time parts it has Winchester sights and furniture inland Saginaw and general motors who ever they were back then all the markings can be traced to 1940s. What does that mean? The only thing not traceable is the barrel and bolt housing which has reproduction company markings on it
I'm looking at purchasing an M1 Carbine but I have some questions on it and was hoping someone could assist. The serial number checks out to be Winchester and is consistent with the serial numbers displayed in this video indicating it is from 1944 or about. However I don't see any markings above the serial number to indicate that it is a Winchester. Also the letters CCSO are stenciled ahead of the type 2 rear site. Not sure what that means.
Love this rifle... I was amazed when rebils (NPA) use it to as, as first fire as signal.. love the sound of it... It's Peng! Peng ! Peng!! Peng!!! I got one now as my personal arm... Paratrooper version.. Love it...
Hey I have a non marked m1 carbine. No stamping on anything except a serial number on the receiver and the U.S. CARBINE CAL .03 M1 . I checked everywhere on the gun, no stamping or markings visible to the eye. How would I find info on it?
I was gifted one some 30 years ago the old lady that gave it to me said it was her fathers from way back during WW2.But know I find Alpine stamped on it So the old lady lied to me I guess ! Oh well I still love getting it out to the range it’s still one of my favorites up until the day I lost it in a boating accident.DAMN
Thank you Sir fir the information, I bought one as President Clinton was entering the White House.....went in to a gun store and wanted something Clinton may just ban from buying ( almost had the same scare with his old lady trying to get in this year. Anyway the store owner said that he just received some M1's in and wanted to clean them up, the one I bought had to me Korean writing on them and it was marked on a painted spot with a number. Was made by Inland 6/44. Told the guy I'd take it as is as I thought the stamping and writing may hold some historical value. Has the newer sight w/ the windage adjustment and clearly marked just underneath the sight and also up front with the date 6/44 and thoughts Sir
I hv in my possession two canvas bags (dark green) with uncoated bright brass zipper and cant find any mfr or date but they ARE stamped US..Id like to place them on ebay but dont know what they are worth...Looks like one is in great used shape and the other was buggered up with a spot of paint that had been wiped off...Both are in good functioning condition..can you give me you opinion ...
I have my father’s 1943 Underwood, all original. Regarding the flip rear sights, the internet explains they are for 150 and 300 yards. But no where can I find which one is which, one is a small aperture and the other large. Can anyone help me out? Just want to know so I can better describe my dad’s M1 to friends and family.
I just picked up a 6 digit Inland marked S'G' on the side of the receiver with a 7-43 barrel (mentioned on page 344 of War Baby!). I am trying to correct it. It has a lot of late inland parts, but also has a Saginaw gas piston, Sag. flip sight, Sag. hammer, Sag. recoil plate. The stock, slide and trigger housing are later and not original to the gun. I am trying to figure out if I should use Inland parts or Saginaw parts to correct it. I have the Reisch book and could not find anything in there about it
Hi. I just found this vid. I wanted to ask about the rear sight with a duck mount. Not the flip sight. In the vid it shows a yellow picture of two sights. I am asking about the one on the left. My question is... The rear sight seems to have a lot of play. It may be about 1/8 of a inch, give or take. One person said to drill a hole on the base of the mount. Use a screw to adjust applying like a "pressure" point. I don't think so. The info reads "Huston TX USA" behind the rear sights if that helps. Is there any way to tighten/apply pressure to the sight so it won't have ....alot of "play"? I did think of going to a gun engraver. I believe that I may need certain tools to do the job correct. Yes it fires great. Good times, great grouping. Any ideas are helpful. Thank you.
I once owned an M1 carbine manufactured by Winchester. It had the type 3 sloping ramp type rear sight and the type 2 receiver. It used the push through safety (Type I) which I sometimes missed and pushed the magazine release button. Annoying when I pushed the wrong button and heard the sound of the magazine hitting the ground. Interestingly the carbine had "Bavarian Rural Police" stamped into the left side of the receiver. I found an interesting web site that tells of the issuing of these after the war and before the founding of West Germany. How it found its way to Australia is anyone's guess. Due the the banning in ex-military self loading firearms in Australia, I had to surrender it to the police where it was subsequently destroyed. I was also employed as a Prison Office in New South Wales, Australia and in the late 1970's, the rifle of choice was the the M1, to be replaced by the Ruger Mini-14. WE had three M1s in our arsenal, 1 made by Winchester and two by Saginaw SG. I loved shooting it and am sorry it was destroyed.
Good video. Looks like I have an original Inland type II rear site. I picked it up back in the 90’s from a guy who served, non-combat. All markings match. I do have one question, on the mag release WA is stamped on it, then above it (larger letter) a W, I’ll assume bc of the of smaller WA. Anyone know about this marking? Also there is what looks like an incomplete circle with a P in side. This located on the butt stock (pistol grip) bottom area?
I've been designated to complete the dauntless task to complete research and obtain legal answers on behalf of my family.My father has been deceased for quite some time, complete a legal bundle purchase and registered the firearms in California in the late 60's 0r early 70's. To my recollection I have only witness three long guns, for my father was an avid outdoor hunter.I am trying to do research on how to obtain all register and unaccounted fire arms records of my late father.Also, I would like to find information how to legally transfer two remaining fire arms to be compliant with 2nd amendment right. Also, they are considered to be family heirlooms. Thank you for your time and consideration, for I will await clear and precise instructions. One of the firearms is MI Carbine
sending info to your email...thanks for your help..not seeing any dates or msnufacturer symbol...but heard that sm may still be authentic such as afew that were made in France for instance...Not sure what to look for to determine anything...your help is appreciated..
Hi Michael, I'm sorry to say but your M1 Carbine Carrying Case appears to be a reproduction. The U.S. marking is not correct and the reddish leather tab should be tan leather and quite a bit thicker. To be sure, look inside to see if there are manufacturer's markings and a date. If there are none, then you know for sure that it is a repro. The markings were an Ordnance Department requirement. I have had a half dozen or so of these M1 Carbine Carrying Cases in the past but do not at the moment. But to show the type of lettering and manufacturer's marks, I photographed one of my Parachutist's carrying cases -- often made by the same company. Also, read pages 153 and 154 in the "U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Production," , 7th edition for a full description of the four types of M1 Carbine Carrying Cases. Hope this helps. best, Joe Poyer
From what I ascertain from this video is that no one manufacturer made a complete M1 carbine 100%! At most maybe 35 out of the 55 or 65 parts. I wonder why this was the case?
LOL!! I've got the book he mentions -- pretty expensive on Amazon. There is an "8th edition, Expanded" And, I've got an IBM mfg carbine that I'm trying to figure the provenance on, and I'm going to listen to a bunch of this guy's other videos. I hadn't noticed the whistle until I read your comment here, and I was thinking what you talking about?. Went back and listened to just a few lines, and now thanks to you, his whistle is now really noticeable. But never mind the whistle, he's got some really good work here.
The military did rebuild many of the battle damaged or worn out M1’s using whatever parts were on hand. They didn’t care who made the parts or if they matched that receiver or not. So, you can have a mismatched rifle and it is still an authentic and original military M1 carbine.
Great video.... We recently found my Great Grandpa’s M1 hidden in my grandmother’s house and I will use this video to check our the history of this great firearm!!!!
Standard Product and Quality Hardware. Both 1943. I bought both of these weapons back in the 80s. Great weapon.
Today I received my m1 and was happy to see it was matching and made by inland! $1000 with a bayonet seems like a steal
Again, the bayonet was not used in WWII
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Givin er eh the bayonet lug was a very very late war addition to the carbine and it’s debated how many of them actually made it over seas. Most bayonet lugs were added after WW2 as apart of arsenal refurbishment
The bayonet lugs we’re made standard late 1944 early 1945 if I’m correct but we’re only made by inland Winchester and 1 or 2 others so if 1944-45 marked could still be an original ww2 one
Didn’t even realize until he said there were 2 different receivers... just took mine apart and I have the rare one with the detachable spring housing!
Same here. I just inherited my grandfather's rifles..
Should have bought a Rock ola i saw at an auction recently, that one would of had it.
I got an Inland but I now know the sight is a type 2 is original and the gun isn't refinished.
just bought a early production , hopefully mine has the spring
Just got one gifted to me by a coworker, will check out the numbers and condition soon, look in great shape
In the process of changing out some parts on my six(6) digit serial number Inland. Barrel is marked 8-43. The serial number range is 571,6xx. Not sure but I’m thinking this is an early production gun maybe 43-44. Barrel is excellent with great lands and grooves and an excellent shooter. Looking for a nice Inland marked high wood stock set.
Nice I have a dec 43 inland and serial number is in range of yours pretty neat mine has a Underwood 43 stock.
You are in luck. Don't ever get rid of it. I've got an Inland in the low 5m range also with a 6/44 barrel. Tack driver. Lately the things are going for 3k and up.
Thank you for your very informative video.
Thank you so much this video helped me confirm that a rifle I bought and am waiting for has an IBM corp receiver to match it's barrel.
Yay! Mines legit. Thanks for the video sir
I highly recommend this book.
great video
Great video !
Hello
I have a manufactured Inland march 1945 with 12/44 dated barrel. The type 2 milled rear sight ha IH marked on right side. Is it original since it has IH ?
Thanks
What was the highest serial number manufactured by "Inland MFG"?
Thank You very much, Sir...
On the M-1 with the original flip sight Type 1 I was wondering which sight opening is used up to 100 yards
Inland receiver with 1944 serial number. type 3 sight but i dont see stake marks like in the video at 8:40. A little unclear as to whether they are expected or not.
So I have a reproduction m1 made in 1963 with ww2 war time parts it has Winchester sights and furniture inland Saginaw and general motors who ever they were back then all the markings can be traced to 1940s. What does that mean? The only thing not traceable is the barrel and bolt housing which has reproduction company markings on it
My m1 carbine is 500k something serial number so is it legit ? The reciver isint welded or broken or anything
I'm looking at purchasing an M1 Carbine but I have some questions on it and was hoping someone could assist. The serial number checks out to be Winchester and is consistent with the serial numbers displayed in this video indicating it is from 1944 or about. However I don't see any markings above the serial number to indicate that it is a Winchester. Also the letters CCSO are stenciled ahead of the type 2 rear site. Not sure what that means.
Love this rifle... I was amazed when rebils (NPA) use it to as, as first fire as signal.. love the sound of it... It's Peng! Peng ! Peng!! Peng!!!
I got one now as my personal arm... Paratrooper version.. Love it...
Excellent video
Hey I have a non marked m1 carbine. No stamping on anything except a serial number on the receiver and the U.S. CARBINE CAL .03 M1 . I checked everywhere on the gun, no stamping or markings visible to the eye. How would I find info on it?
Melissa Moua ... if you ever get an answer.. please share!!.. I was gifted an M-1 from my uncle who said he Acquired it in the 70's...
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Check m1carbinesinc.com . They have a wealth of info including serial number ranges and history.
I was gifted one some 30 years ago the old lady that gave it to me said it was her fathers from way back during WW2.But know I find Alpine stamped on it So the old lady lied to me I guess ! Oh well I still love getting it out to the range it’s still one of my favorites up until the day I lost it in a boating accident.DAMN
great video. thank you
Thank you Sir fir the information, I bought one as President Clinton was entering the White House.....went in to a gun store and wanted something Clinton may just ban from buying ( almost had the same scare with his old lady trying to get in this year. Anyway the store owner said that he just received some M1's in and wanted to clean them up, the one I bought had to me Korean writing on them and it was marked on a painted spot with a number. Was made by Inland 6/44. Told the guy I'd take it as is as I thought the stamping and writing may hold some historical value. Has the newer sight w/ the windage adjustment and clearly marked just underneath the sight and also up front with the date 6/44 and thoughts Sir
How much is my 30cal carbine worth it's all regular with the army sling and oiler and the belt to carry clips
How much do they cost
I hv in my possession two canvas bags (dark green) with uncoated bright brass zipper and cant find any mfr or date but they ARE stamped US..Id like to place them on ebay but dont know what they are worth...Looks like one is in great used shape and the other was buggered up with a spot of paint that had been wiped off...Both are in good functioning condition..can you give me you opinion ...
If you can send digital images -- overall, zipper, leather trimmings, to ncape@ix.netcom.com, perhaps we can help.
I had one here in the philipines.
I have my father’s 1943 Underwood, all original. Regarding the flip rear sights, the internet explains they are for 150 and 300 yards. But no where can I find which one is which, one is a small aperture and the other large. Can anyone help me out? Just want to know so I can better describe my dad’s M1 to friends and family.
The way I understand it is, the larger aperture is for 150 yds. and the smaller is for further out to 300 yes.
Where can I buy this book
I have an inland 1944 dated barrel with in land reciver type 2 PI marked rear site!
They have all this info on them but no serial number info is available
Thank you great!
I just picked up a 6 digit Inland marked S'G' on the side of the receiver with a 7-43 barrel (mentioned on page 344 of War Baby!). I am trying to correct it. It has a lot of late inland parts, but also has a Saginaw gas piston, Sag. flip sight, Sag. hammer, Sag. recoil plate. The stock, slide and trigger housing are later and not original to the gun. I am trying to figure out if I should use Inland parts or Saginaw parts to correct it. I have the Reisch book and could not find anything in there about it
Hi. I just found this vid. I wanted to ask about the rear sight with a duck mount. Not the flip sight. In the vid it shows a yellow picture of two sights. I am asking about the one on the left. My question is... The rear sight seems to have a lot of play. It may be about 1/8 of a inch, give or take. One person said to drill a hole on the base of the mount. Use a screw to adjust applying like a "pressure" point. I don't think so. The info reads "Huston TX USA" behind the rear sights if that helps. Is there any way to tighten/apply pressure to the sight so it won't have ....alot of "play"? I did think of going to a gun engraver. I believe that I may need certain tools to do the job correct. Yes it fires great. Good times, great grouping. Any ideas are helpful. Thank you.
I once owned an M1 carbine manufactured by Winchester. It had the type 3 sloping ramp type rear sight and the type 2 receiver. It used the push through safety (Type I) which I sometimes missed and pushed the magazine release button. Annoying when I pushed the wrong button and heard the sound of the magazine hitting the ground.
Interestingly the carbine had "Bavarian Rural Police" stamped into the left side of the receiver. I found an interesting web site that tells of the issuing of these after the war and before the founding of West Germany. How it found its way to Australia is anyone's guess. Due the the banning in ex-military self loading firearms in Australia, I had to surrender it to the police where it was subsequently destroyed.
I was also employed as a Prison Office in New South Wales, Australia and in the late 1970's, the rifle of choice was the the M1, to be replaced by the Ruger Mini-14. WE had three M1s in our arsenal, 1 made by Winchester and two by Saginaw SG.
I loved shooting it and am sorry it was destroyed.
Good video. Looks like I have an original Inland type II rear site. I picked it up back in the 90’s from a guy who served, non-combat. All markings match. I do have one question, on the mag release WA is stamped on it, then above it (larger letter) a W, I’ll assume bc of the of smaller WA. Anyone know about this marking? Also there is what looks like an incomplete circle with a P in side. This located on the butt stock (pistol grip) bottom area?
I've been designated to complete the dauntless task to complete research and obtain legal answers on behalf of my family.My father has been deceased for quite some time, complete a legal bundle purchase and registered the firearms in California in the late 60's 0r early 70's. To my recollection I have only witness three long guns, for my father was an avid outdoor hunter.I am trying to do research on how to obtain all register and unaccounted fire arms records of my late father.Also, I would like to find information how to legally transfer two remaining fire arms to be compliant with 2nd amendment right. Also, they are considered to be family heirlooms. Thank you for your time and consideration, for I will await clear and precise instructions. One of the firearms is MI Carbine
Wow I had this Iver Johnson all this time to find out it is a replica.
sending info to your email...thanks for your help..not seeing any dates or msnufacturer symbol...but heard that sm may still be authentic such as afew that were made in France for instance...Not sure what to look for to determine anything...your help is appreciated..
Hi Michael,
I'm sorry to say but your M1
Carbine Carrying Case appears to be a reproduction. The U.S. marking is not
correct and the reddish leather tab should be tan leather and quite a bit
thicker. To be sure, look inside to see if there are manufacturer's markings
and a date. If there are none, then you know for sure that it is a repro. The
markings were an Ordnance Department requirement. I have had a half dozen or so of
these M1 Carbine Carrying Cases in the past but do not at the moment. But to
show the type of lettering and manufacturer's marks, I photographed one of my
Parachutist's carrying cases -- often made by the same company.
Also, read pages 153 and 154 in
the "U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Production," , 7th edition for a full
description of the four types of M1 Carbine Carrying Cases.
Hope this helps.
best, Joe Poyer
I have my dad 's M 1 carbine he got back in th 60's with the baronet with extra clips he bought off my uncle for $50.00
That's just about what it's worth.....no WW2 m1 carbine EVER had the bayonet lug ORIGINALLY ON IT.
Even a reproduction carbine in decent condition is worth several hundred dollars today.
From what I ascertain from this video is that no one manufacturer made a complete M1 carbine 100%! At most maybe 35 out of the 55 or 65 parts. I wonder why this was the case?
That’s not true at all. Turn up your hearing aids and watch the video again.
ilike M1 than M2 carbine. ihave my M1 and still on Tough condition
do you know the difference between an M1 and an M2? M1 is semi auto M2 is selectable semi and full auto .
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This guy's "whistle voice" is annoying the shit outta me, but good information
LOL!! I've got the book he mentions -- pretty expensive on Amazon. There is an "8th edition, Expanded" And, I've got an IBM mfg carbine that I'm trying to figure the provenance on, and I'm going to listen to a bunch of this guy's other videos. I hadn't noticed the whistle until I read your comment here, and I was thinking what you talking about?. Went back and listened to just a few lines, and now thanks to you, his whistle is now really noticeable. But never mind the whistle, he's got some really good work here.
J
Many Thanks Sir!...