I pay up to 45% tax in the dollar. Why don't all of you who have been voting Liberal/Labor for the last 30+ years ask yourself why it all went wrong? The government should be funding this, not the general public.
Why don't all the Multinational CEO's in this country donate their million $$$ bonuses to every natural disaster appeal rather shipping it offshore and make others feel worse off.
I think people shoud start to consider go off jobs which are not beneficial to their environment, and think about getting trained in methods of cultural burnings and get payed from the government to care for the land, and make it wildfire save, or more resistant to it. how is explaned in the video, which I was surprised to find.
I am glad your cousin is trying to get the knowledge out. I learnt a bit from this article. Mabye it's time to pass the management of country back to her original custodians.
@@russellphipps911 they hunt by burning to scare animals out. It has been done by all hunter gather people throughout history unfortunatly it isn't really practical in settled agricultural society.
This is the best information any Australian could learn. Scream it from the roof tops, teach our children, learn from, and listen to our indigenous people; THEY KNOW THIS LAND! 🙏👍
It doesn't make any difference. The inner-city elites will never allow land management. They destroyed the logging industry that kept those areas open and cleared the fuel loads. They have ignored recommendations from every inquest and royal commission to do more of these cool-weather burns. Feeling good about themselves is far more important than what others want and need with regard to land management.
It's high time we really listened to our first Australians in regards to fire on this continent. They've lived here for 60,000 years, they surely know a bit more about it than us.
IAmThat it’s a joke isn’t it! Politicians only interested in their pay check and little school yard arguments rather than keeping this country in good shape for future generations!
About time the dumb arses in Government retracted the laws they put in place preventing this practice mate. My mob are currently burning up on cape country...because we are sensible, yet people think we are dumb black fellas. LMAO.
so we need to set fire to the environment to stop the environment from burning? seems to me a natural cycle of growth and rebirth is happening now anyway
WOOAH, we're not talking of a POLITICAL entity here, which the Aboriginal Land Council is, and who are beholden to the Government to pay their way. We need to keep them as far away from this as possible.
Aboriginal people lived here on this land for thousands of thousands of years and we are still here . We looked after the land , we had our culture and language until it was taken from us . Only if the white man let us keep our ways and worked with us things could be so different . It's about respect and it's about time the white man took notice of our culture . My ancestors lived it and not read it out of a book . They had a lot of knowledge that's why they lived here in this beautiful country Australia for a very long long time and past all the knowledge and wisdom down generations to generation . I'm proud of my culture and who I'm am as a Aboriginal person . I wouldn't change it for anything . Be proud to be Aboriginal and don't let anyone put you down , stand up and make our ancestors happy that we are still here and what they went through wasn't for nothing .🖤💛❤️🇦🇺
Marxine St.Arline yeah it’s the idiot greens make them look after all the animals that have Been burnt you should see where I live all the bundles of tree# in the paddocks and guess what ? You can’t touch them once again because of the greens how dangerous it’s just fuel waiting to go up .its funny how they go quiet when the fires raging out if control .my uncle had to close his saw mill down because those idiots made it so hard for him .my grandfather built that mill .it was on our family for a very long .guess what there Now flats .what morons they are 🙄🤬
and yet western civilisation- feels more advanced and superior.... aboriginal s have been in touch with the land, cared for it and loved it- and it loved them back. we have abused mother nature- and now we area ll paying the price.
I remember as a kid growing up in the Hawkesbury - Dharug area the burning was a real social event. Lots of white Australians and indigenous locals just chatting and wandering through the bush, my dad would have a beer can in his hand and a stick with a kero soaked rag touch touching off as he walked... you could walk in amongst it, it was almost like a game, never raging. The spring would bring beautiful new growth and the little seasonal creeks would cut through clean because the debris was cleared out of the folds in the landscape and would naturally drain the mountains. It was easy, no fuss. Now nobody lives there anymore, most people moved away to the city and it's all holiday houses.... and the bush is totally neglected, just waiting for a catastrophe. Us humans grew up with the bush, we've lived side by side, we're part of it and we have a role to play. We've been leaving that role to governments rather than to local communities with local knowledge. This guy makes perfect sense. This is not hippy 'logic' - this is a science... but a science born of long observation, practice and experience. We'd be completely mad not to listen.
I saw the yellow stone in 92 when they were saying that the previous years of the smokey bear campaign was only storing up wood for super fires The aborigines have been burning for the last 50 thousand years and who knows how many years before measuring
So true! But in the Northern Territory it’s mandatory and cultural practices are implemented in land management and there’s less threats of spreading bush fires. It’s the other states in Australia that have been arrogant towards this practice.
Fire was Essential to Aboriginal Nomads: Despite modern folk-lore tales about aboriginal fire management skills, anyone reading diaries from early explorers such as Abel Tasman (1642) and Captain Cook (1770) soon learned that aboriginals lit fires at any time, for many reasons, and NEVER tried to put them out. Aboriginal Fire Management Worked: If threatened by fires lit by enemies, the most frequent response was to light their own protective fires (now called back-burning). Fire lighting was deliberate, and sometimes governed by rules, but there was no central plan. There were no fire-fighters, no 4WD tankers, no water bombers, no dozers, and no attempt to put fires out. But aboriginal fire “management” worked brilliantly. Because of the high frequency of small fires, fire intensity was low and fires could be lit safely even in hot dry summers. Any fire lit would soon run into country burnt one or two years earlier and then would run out of fuel and self-extinguish. SADLY, THE CURRENT FIRE TRAGEDY IN AUSTRALIA WAS INEVITABLE
This is what happens when governments ignore the long generational practices of the indigenous people. Not only in Australia but world wide we know the land and are the protectors of the land.
I've changed my mind. This makes much more sense. Than fuel reduction burns!! This has got my Vote. More Jobs for indigenous people. Win/win for everyone. We have to live in accordance with Nature and we are all custodians of the country for our children. It is our Duty to see this is implemented ACROSS Australia !!
The tax office should have offsets for people who look after their properties, especially those living next to reserves and National Parks! Unfortunately most beaurocrates DON'T know their responsibilities but want the money!? They should be sued for the damages but I also know farmers that have no fire plan because they think the government's will help because they pay a fire levy!?
Mattdread I do know that where National Parks fires happen, my bosses here (I am a caretaker tenant on a family farm) were compensated for fences because it was their fire, happened in 2013, Wollemi National Park, all posts and wire supplied. That fire was close, the fire up here is still burning but not newsworthy as never was a wildfire, but they had to fight today. But I'm sure the 2013 fire cleared a lot of litter.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS through ALL kinds of climate changes. We need to get serious and respect our land and the traditional owners land management practices. Also, we need to stop building houses right next to forests, we need huge fire breaks around populated areas and green breaks as well. We HAVE to reduce the fuel load. the Green argument that the window for burning has reduced due to climate change is WEAK to say the least.
We need all the little mammals and foragers of animal's that used to do it for us, but they are all pretty much extinct. It's now a debate of who, what, how it's going to be done, if❗and who, what, how is it going to be paid to get it done. People expected it to be done by volunteers who were happy to get it done, but now that's also changed and someone now has to pay to ensure it is done.
Hallelujah. We shoulda been listening to the black fellas since colonisation . They only been managing country over 60000 yrs. No brainer. Keep up the good work guys.
stephen huffy totally agree America done the suppress all fires for over 80 yrs and it ended in disaster ,they to are paying for trying to go against Mother Nature,we need to learn from the likes of American Indians who also use to burn the land to produce better healthy soil and plants. For as educated as we think we are we are pretty bloody stupid. We need to stop teaching junk in our schools and get back to basics like growing food, and teaching our kids to live with Mother Earth and not against her.
Makes sense, hot fires favouring plants that want things to burn hotter. I hope after the current fires die down, we'll start doing more of this cooler cultural burning. I'm sure there'll be some argument about it being expensive etc to implement more widely, but rebuilding burnt communities is pretty expensive too, and much more traumatic.
fire makes fire regime species - burning is bad for country, bad for planet. What contemporary australia needs is not what 'made hunting easy' 500 years ago.
There is a agenda to get people of the land so this disaster will play into the hands of the top string pullers. But there is smart work that would make a tremendous benefit if implemented and its this cold burning /Aboriginal cultural fire management its the correct way forward I believe.
K Parker ...Are you unaware that eucalyptus seeds require the heat of fire to crack and germinate? Are you aware that before the white invasion and settlement Australia looked like an open woodland? They didn't burn for the hunting, the gum leaves are as incendiary as phosphorus and need to be kept to a minimum. Did you know that during a drought the aboriginals would not kill, they knew to conserve the wildlife, and went vegetarian until rains came?
Never ceases to amaze me how these people know the land. Amazing how cool burning actually reduces fires that ravages Vegetation, wildlife and human life. It restores balance. Mindblown
Our Indigenous knowledge and culture are vital to this country's future. We need to listen to our Indigenous people - to learn and understand how to manage this glorious land we call home. Traveling in the NT - I visited Kakadu NP, they were burning large areas of tall dry grasses with flames 20' high - looked like a ravished bushfire. Later, I visited and hiked in Nitmiluk - the landscape looked almost like a manicured garden. The difference was astounding, so I asked a ranger why it was so different. He told me they work closely together with the Indigenous community on how to manage the land with their knowledge. Small burnings, at different times of the year, some plants every few years. Kakadu does not practice cultural burning.
If you are keen to learn more, read Bill Gammage's book the biggest estate on earth or Bruce Pascoe's Dark Emu. That's decades of study about 1000's of years of Aboriginal country knowledge put into 2 books.
It would require a lot more resources to have these well balanced hazard management programs. The current hazard reduction cares more about assets and not enough about nature. The Nowa Nowa protestors knew this and got crucified by the right wing for trying to point out burning off needs to be done better and not just burn it all ashes to protect assets.
Yes, but the past 5 years they have only reduced 5% overall during an extended drought! This is the actual reason why Australia is currently burning so hard!
@@stuff7274 But with "cool burning" like this, I suspect with their knowledge developed over thousands of years, they would be able to burn right through any drought.
No, I disagree. The contemporary australian bush is a scarred remnant of what it was before fire stick management turned it into an artificial remnant of what it was. More firestick management makes for an ongoing problem. Contemporary Australia does not benefit from what 'made hunting easy 500 years ago'. So why embrace it. Why not see it for what it is - unsustainable and unenlightened. We could fix it, we could protect human settlements with fire retardant drought tolerant species...but noooooo. We think the primitive peoples were soooooo much smarter than us. Really?!
Well the aboriginals know more when it comes to the land, they’ve been here longer then us. We should listen to them more to avoid what is happening to the forests.
A population in Australia of over 25,000,000 and this video only has 15,000 views. I'm hoping a lot more saw it when shown on ABC TV at the time. Seems like a critical point in time has now been reached where going back to the old ways is vital for Australia's renewal.
Great to watch... Victor is one of the best in the country when it comes to fire management practises and he gives his time and knowledge to others, often with no personal benefit. Love to see more programs like this, and more footage like this!
Wild fires are created by us white man. We have no idea how to manage the Australia bush. Indigenous people have manage this land for thousands of years, with no fire trucks and water bombing air craft.
Indigenous Australians are very much I touch with THEIR land and need a stronger voice in land management but sadly it wont be done with this government
The Govt. needs to bring back Land Management techniques such as Cultural Burning which protects the Forests and their understory from extreme bushfires.
The days when it was just empty bush with small numbers of nomadic hunters are over. Farming, logging and population increases have created a modern first world country. Time to wake up and join the rest of the global community
Warwick Lewis In many cases, they have. People here are just expressing their ideas of having the Indigenous people manage the National Parks, and see the difference.
Really enjoyed watching this. Would love Dan Morgan to show me how to do this on my land. This method makes far more sense to me than what we've been doing.
Did you catch what Victor Steffenson said; "The fear of fire, comes from detaching yourself from the landscape; the fear of fire, comes from taking people out of the landscape". Truth Bomb! The more we separate ourselves from nature; the more Threatened we feel by it!!
We did this year's ago when I was around 7 or 8 year's old , where the rural fire brigade's did this throughout the Victorian Bush , then all of a sudden they were no more , I'm not indigenous , but growing up in Traralgon , Victoria I had some aboriginal people that i usedto muck around with , but getting back to forest management that fuel reduction was phased out WHY is my Question , when it was done the grasses weren't chest high , they were about as high as 30 cm tall & tinder dry , we were told that this aided a Quiet burn throughout the grid that was marked off , even when I worked with A.P. M Forests & we cleared land to plant PINUS RADIATA forest's , the cleared shrub's , after awhile the windrows were set on fire , why I have no idea other than to dry the timber & to make it hard for the tree's to regrow . But any way I would love to see your method bought back to stop these Wildfire's ever happening again , because this time I have no real idea of how many native animals we have lost , or how many rare one's have perrished altogether neve to be seen again , it heart breaking to see animal's dead & dying on the forest floor in these Wildfires of 2019 - 2020 !!!
I. Gutted that my beautiful Australia is burning ...my hert goes out to our Indigenous people who have lived her long before WW1 ...where my grandfathers. Fought for Australia .❤💙💚💛🧡💜🖤💖
We could employ tribes to do this all over the country, and in turn give them a purpose which helps the country as a whole. They could also teach the rural fire services the cool burn method to reduce invasive flora.
If you rely on the land to provide you with everything you need to sustain your life, I'm pretty sure you too would appreciate it, as our indigenous people do.
This white Aussie old women been saying this for over 20 years ..... now look where we are.😣😭...please let our indigenous peoples take care of the land.
You've got to look at the history of this country - which is predominantly Indigenous, so many people don't factor that in! The european element in Australia's population has only been here for a mere couple of hundred years whilst Indigenous Australians have been here for several thousand decades... it's time we shut up and listened for a change. You only have to look at how Australian native plants and their seeds have learned to adapt to fire (many will not germinate without some kind of heat/ash involved) - Australia is a land that is used to burning. Unfortunately, due to agricultural practises and human driven climate change, fire has changed to become a much larger, life-endangering threat - we really need to step back and let Indigenous communities take the lead on this. If there's one thing they know much better than us is how to care for the land. They know what they're talking about, and the science is there to back them.
I would be completely happy for the Commonwealth Government to increase GST if needed to holey and solely fund a new super dept combining land, water, native animals and fisheries where as far as land management is concerned RFS would be become a fully paid profession with a fleet of fire fighting aircraft and together with rangers and indigenous people that have the knowledge to implement, practice and teach "anyone" who is diserious of a paid career as a professional land manager all work together to get this country back to how it was when us whities came ashore because if the Canberra bush fire didn't wake up the nation that if i can happen to the nations capital it can happen anywhere and everywhere then we have learned nothing from this nation wide disaster. Mr Morrison this is your time to shine and be a leader that Australians far into the future will remember and revere, not for a short term balancing of a budget but for securing a nations ecological future.
The government fined a firefighter $100.000 for back-burning around his home. When the fires came through his was the only house in the area to survive.
True! One reason the fires come back is the dark green herbs and medicine plants that keep the forest from burning, have been removed. Hot fires do kill the seeds and keep the forest from maintaining it healthy balance!
It's wonderful that you've spoken to the ABC. Of course you would know all about looking after the land. and should be teaching us how. The land is your mother? That is so beautiful Speak to your Council, too. Try to find people who are interested in knowing. The sooner the knowledge gets passed around the better and I'm going to write to the Government and the ABC. Blessings to you and many thanks.
Great stuff this what happens when a community engages and doesn't let the angry squad get involved in their affairs. And as someone from the Left, this is the kind of projects that I support. The Aboriginal Australians have had this knowledge for 60,000 years and yet we ignore their processes and experience. We have a criminal attitude towards these communities when we should be cherishing their cultures.
These indigenous people have got it right we need to listen and learn from them. When it comes to looking after the bush our governments have learned nothing
The Quicker you take The Green Mobsters out of the Equation, the Better it will be for Everyone in Australia. My Respects and Condolences to Those Who Have Lost Their Lives and Their Families and Friends. From Chris in Derbyshire, England. PS: Honour to Those Who Are Risking Their Lives To Protect Others.
yes, burning off the trash in the cool damp season, instead of an explosive fire in the hot dry season. it burns around the trees, but doesn't ignite them. been there, done that, it works.....
We learned this in school. The govs knows this too. Australia is one of the countries that knows the full knowlegde of bushfires. Pros, cons etc. I guess when the PM and his croonies investments become a threat is when they will do something about it.
This has been going on for many, many decades, covering both labor and liberal governments. Stop pushing your barrow. The blame lies with government at ALL levels.
@@anaussie8830 NO, they don't. Common sense is required to MANAGE these areas properly. Simple as that. People demanding to live in such vulnerable areas, need to accept the responsibility that comes with living in such locations and contribute to the costs involved, as well as ensuring fire safety systems are installed on their homes. Let's face it, in the video clips of these burnt out homes, how many times did you see a swimming pool or rain water tank, (steel) still standing, with the pools even having water still in them ? Water that could have saved their home if they had installed a sprinkler system on their roof ????
Put funds into implementing this methodology. These guys know what they are doing and it will be great for indigenous employment. What we have been doing is not working. Green tape is not working. Complaining greenies are not working.
I pray that we are able to implement Cultural burning, the evidence is there with positive results. The wisdom and knowledge of the Indigenous people should not be lost at any cost. We should not be ignorant to it. Sadly this has happened with many other Indigenous cultures around the world too. I hope we can make this change for our Mother Earth, for all living beings on Earth. Thank you for sharing 🙏
I don't in any way blame the firies for "backburning" mismanagement, as they are doing this work unpaid as usual. We expect too much from them. But if this Bega experiment worked then it needs to be adopted Australia wide. I know that Bega was hit by the recent bushfires as well and it would be interesting to see how well this worked. What we need is a conscripted "Land Army" of volunteers, that need to be taught the Aboriginal ways of cool burning. It's too big a job for the Aboriginals alone of the volunteer firies. Everyone should be "conscripted" : to give up 3 weekends a year to help cool burn the forests with Aboriginals employed to teach us. Everyone says they are feeling helpless - well this is a way to help. This is labour intensive. If you care for Australia, you would do it. I will.
I thought the greens cared about the land so why they stopped this and clearing the dead wood And farmers clearing their land from potential fuel for the fires I get them out of their office and get them to help fight the fires Maybe then they will get it.
The Australian Government Needs to employ our wonderful and amazing Aboriginal Australians to undertake all pre fire season burning. They have done it for thousands of years .
I hope the government listen to you, been trying to get the message out in the UK that this is due to poor land and water management rather than alarmist CLIMATE CHANGE. My heart goes our to you all and wish I could do more to help through this extremely difficult time to both wildlife and human, must be difficult to get over mentally. Love you all and hope for better understanding from those who make these crazy ideas from pen pushers.
Yes there is a history of poor land management but the extaordinary impact of the summer wildfires is driven by climate change. It's not alarmism, it's reality. Wake up!
In many places in Africa controlled bush burning takes place at a certain time of the year. It's just a part of our lifestyle. There are times when 'scientific know-how' tries to prevent this. I suppose it can be called cultural because it's been done for centuries by local folks and those who came to Africa at a later date.
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Get behind the charities that are supporting our bushfire affected communities: abc.net.au/appeals
I pay up to 45% tax in the dollar. Why don't all of you who have been voting Liberal/Labor for the last 30+ years ask yourself why it all went wrong? The government should be funding this, not the general public.
Why don't all the Multinational CEO's in this country donate their million $$$ bonuses to every natural disaster appeal rather shipping it offshore and make others feel worse off.
I think people shoud start to consider go off jobs which are not beneficial to their environment, and think about getting trained in methods of cultural burnings and get payed from the government to care for the land, and make it wildfire save, or more resistant to it. how is explaned in the video, which I was surprised to find.
I am proud of my cousin Victor for keeping this invaluable k nowledge alive !!
Reltub Llessur We should follow this practice in Australia 🇦🇺 and call it “VICTORS LAW” 👍👍👍
I am glad your cousin is trying to get the knowledge out. I learnt a bit from this article. Mabye it's time to pass the management of country back to her original custodians.
It wasn't invented by Victor. It's ages old knowledge.
thea lolo How or why would you change the only method that seems to work
Amazing. Big respect to the indigenous community that care so much for the land!
misguided i think - see my comments elsewhere
We should follow the indigenous people they have been doing this for ever and understand the land.
God bless
@@russellphipps911 they hunt by burning to scare animals out.
It has been done by all hunter gather people throughout history unfortunatly it isn't really practical in settled agricultural society.
This is the best information any Australian could learn. Scream it from the roof tops, teach our children, learn from, and listen to our indigenous people; THEY KNOW THIS LAND! 🙏👍
It doesn't make any difference. The inner-city elites will never allow land management. They destroyed the logging industry that kept those areas open and cleared the fuel loads. They have ignored recommendations from every inquest and royal commission to do more of these cool-weather burns. Feeling good about themselves is far more important than what others want and need with regard to land management.
I absolutely agree. Should be part of all school curriculum- city or bush❤
It's high time we really listened to our first Australians in regards to fire on this continent. They've lived here for 60,000 years, they surely know a bit more about it than us.
Some would say longer then 60k years.
I wish that this practice was adopted by all Australia
It is
It was!!!!!!!!!!! Tragic, to Magic; bring back the wisdom keepers, new leadership required!....Apologize by our actions, I am in.
It used to be, it all stopped about 15-20 years ago.
Darwin nt does it every year the grass is over 2 meters high & if not burnt takes over was their 4 years
Tassie still does it
more funding & support need to go into these workshops. Knowledge is key to prevention
Bout time we started doing this!! Horrible what’s happening to the environment now in Australia so surely it’s time to implement this nation wide!!!
The banned Back burns in NSW where all fires just happened. Luckly in QLD we could still do it.
IAmThat it’s a joke isn’t it! Politicians only interested in their pay check and little school yard arguments rather than keeping this country in good shape for future generations!
About time the dumb arses in Government retracted the laws they put in place preventing this practice mate.
My mob are currently burning up on cape country...because we are sensible, yet people think we are dumb black fellas. LMAO.
so we need to set fire to the environment to stop the environment from burning? seems to me a natural cycle of growth and rebirth is happening now anyway
I live in the Northern Territory where bush rangers and land management authorities still practice this and guess what ? Less fires !
I never knew about this. This makes sense. Well done Aboriginal Land Council 👍🙏
Same same. It is obvious when it's been pointed out and easy to understand how it works.
Good job indeed.
WOOAH, we're not talking of a POLITICAL entity here, which the Aboriginal Land Council is, and who are beholden to the Government to pay their way. We need to keep them as far away from this as possible.
Aboriginal people lived here on this land for thousands of thousands of years and we are still here . We looked after the land , we had our culture and language until it was taken from us . Only if the white man let us keep our ways and worked with us things could be so different . It's about respect and it's about time the white man took notice of our culture . My ancestors lived it and not read it out of a book . They had a lot of knowledge that's why they lived here in this beautiful country Australia for a very long long time and past all the knowledge and wisdom down generations to generation . I'm proud of my culture and who I'm am as a Aboriginal person . I wouldn't change it for anything . Be proud to be Aboriginal and don't let anyone put you down , stand up and make our ancestors happy that we are still here and what they went through wasn't for nothing .🖤💛❤️🇦🇺
Well said Stephanie . Maybe now they will take notice .
Bless these Brothers who worship our Earth as their Mother...They have my vote in our next election! 🙏😇❤️
Please Australia go to this practice.
This is desperately needed
Marxine St.Arline yeah it’s the idiot greens make them look after all the animals that have Been burnt you should see where I live all the bundles of tree# in the paddocks and guess what ? You can’t touch them once again because of the greens how dangerous it’s just fuel waiting to go up .its funny how they go quiet when the fires raging out if control .my uncle had to close his saw mill down because those idiots made it so hard for him .my grandfather built that mill .it was on our family for a very long .guess what there Now flats .what morons they are 🙄🤬
The Indigenous people of the Kakadu national park NT have continued to practice their tradition land management.
We did mate, then the lefty Governments stopped us carrying out hazard reduction burns and fire break clearing and maintenance.
Its quite clear isnt it. Look up david packam hes been on about it for years. Sadly fallen on deaf ears
and yet western civilisation- feels more advanced and superior....
aboriginal s have been in touch with the land, cared for it and loved it- and it loved them back.
we have abused mother nature- and now we area ll paying the price.
Exactly 💯
I remember as a kid growing up in the Hawkesbury - Dharug area the burning was a real social event. Lots of white Australians and indigenous locals just chatting and wandering through the bush, my dad would have a beer can in his hand and a stick with a kero soaked rag touch touching off as he walked... you could walk in amongst it, it was almost like a game, never raging. The spring would bring beautiful new growth and the little seasonal creeks would cut through clean because the debris was cleared out of the folds in the landscape and would naturally drain the mountains. It was easy, no fuss. Now nobody lives there anymore, most people moved away to the city and it's all holiday houses.... and the bush is totally neglected, just waiting for a catastrophe. Us humans grew up with the bush, we've lived side by side, we're part of it and we have a role to play. We've been leaving that role to governments rather than to local communities with local knowledge. This guy makes perfect sense. This is not hippy 'logic' - this is a science... but a science born of long observation, practice and experience. We'd be completely mad not to listen.
Maybe Scott Morrison can have a sit down and learn a thing or two
Yon couldn't teach that man anything, because he don't listen.
In Hawaii?
Learning to sip cocktails and hang 10
So sad that the First people were not heard about bush fire management. It’s out of control now and we are seeing immense damage :( .
I saw the yellow stone in 92 when they were saying that the previous years of the smokey bear campaign was only storing up wood for super fires
The aborigines have been burning for the last 50 thousand years and who knows how many years before measuring
incorrect - see my comments elsewhere.
So true! But in the Northern Territory it’s mandatory and cultural practices are implemented in land management and there’s less threats of spreading bush fires. It’s the other states in Australia that have been arrogant towards this practice.
Fire was Essential to Aboriginal Nomads:
Despite modern folk-lore tales about aboriginal fire management skills, anyone reading diaries from early explorers such as Abel Tasman (1642) and Captain Cook (1770) soon learned that aboriginals lit fires at any time, for many reasons, and NEVER tried to put them out.
Aboriginal Fire Management Worked:
If threatened by fires lit by enemies, the most frequent response was to light their own protective fires (now called back-burning).
Fire lighting was deliberate, and sometimes governed by rules, but there was no central plan. There were no fire-fighters, no 4WD tankers, no water bombers, no dozers, and no attempt to put fires out.
But aboriginal fire “management” worked brilliantly. Because of the high frequency of small fires, fire intensity was low and fires could be lit safely even in hot dry summers.
Any fire lit would soon run into country burnt one or two years earlier and then would run out of fuel and self-extinguish.
SADLY, THE CURRENT FIRE TRAGEDY IN AUSTRALIA WAS INEVITABLE
This is what happens when governments ignore the long generational practices of the indigenous people. Not only in Australia but world wide we know the land and are the protectors of the land.
I've changed my mind. This makes much more sense. Than fuel reduction burns!! This has got my Vote. More Jobs for indigenous people. Win/win for everyone.
We have to live in accordance with Nature and we are all custodians of the country for our children. It is our Duty to see this is implemented ACROSS Australia !!
The tax office should have offsets for people who look after their properties, especially those living next to reserves and National Parks! Unfortunately most beaurocrates DON'T know their responsibilities but want the money!? They should be sued for the damages but I also know farmers that have no fire plan because they think the government's will help because they pay a fire levy!?
Who is going to pay for these jobs? How many Aboriginals actually want to do this as a job?
Mattdread I do know that where National Parks fires happen, my bosses here (I am a caretaker tenant on a family farm) were compensated for fences because it was their fire, happened in 2013, Wollemi National Park, all posts and wire supplied. That fire was close, the fire up here is still burning but not newsworthy as never was a wildfire, but they had to fight today. But I'm sure the 2013 fire cleared a lot of litter.
It's the same thing just different words usual practice of the ABC
@@japorah The government should budget for this as land management.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS through ALL kinds of climate changes. We need to get serious and respect our land and the traditional owners land management practices. Also, we need to stop building houses right next to forests, we need huge fire breaks around populated areas and green breaks as well. We HAVE to reduce the fuel load. the Green argument that the window for burning has reduced due to climate change is WEAK to say the least.
We need all the little mammals and foragers of animal's that used to do it for us, but they are all pretty much extinct. It's now a debate of who, what, how it's going to be done, if❗and who, what, how is it going to be paid to get it done. People expected it to be done by volunteers who were happy to get it done, but now that's also changed and someone now has to pay to ensure it is done.
Hallelujah. We shoulda been listening to the black fellas since colonisation . They only been managing country over 60000 yrs. No brainer. Keep up the good work guys.
The Old ways always worked. Never perfect but close enough.
So close enough hey. So who’s house farm is going to burn when close enough. Back pre 1800,s there were NO HOUSES or FARMS so nothing to damage.
The "old ways" were to catch food.
Now we have so many people it can't work like that.
We need farms to feed everyone.
There is no going back in time
Warwick Lewis yes they burnt down the Forrest to catch food nothing to do with fuel burn.
@@gregmatthies8128 Sure. But did you watch the video?
tell that to Labour and the Greens
end of 2019 just gone into 2020 nsw vic sa on fire this video needs to be shown to all australian govs & greenies NOW!
stephen huffy my sentiments exactly I really hope common sense prevails I love this country
Absolutely agree!
stephen huffy totally agree
America done the suppress all fires for over 80 yrs and it ended in disaster ,they to are paying for trying to go against Mother Nature,we need to learn from the likes of American Indians who also use to burn the land to produce better healthy soil and plants.
For as educated as we think we are we are pretty bloody stupid.
We need to stop teaching junk in our schools and get back to basics like growing food, and teaching our kids to live with Mother Earth and not against her.
Too busy in inner-city cafes drinking soy lattes.
The Greens ARE NOT against back burning - backburning is dictated by the weather and personnal/funding.
Makes sense, hot fires favouring plants that want things to burn hotter. I hope after the current fires die down, we'll start doing more of this cooler cultural burning. I'm sure there'll be some argument about it being expensive etc to implement more widely, but rebuilding burnt communities is pretty expensive too, and much more traumatic.
fire makes fire regime species - burning is bad for country, bad for planet. What contemporary australia needs is not what 'made hunting easy' 500 years ago.
There is a agenda to get people of the land so this disaster will play into the hands of the top string pullers. But there is smart work that would make a tremendous benefit if implemented and its this cold burning /Aboriginal cultural fire management its the correct way forward I believe.
Not really We have a thing in Australia called work for the dole, we could utilize this as a means to find the manpower to do it
K Parker ...Are you unaware that eucalyptus seeds require the heat of fire to crack and germinate? Are you aware that before the white invasion and settlement Australia looked like an open woodland? They didn't burn for the hunting, the gum leaves are as incendiary as phosphorus and need to be kept to a minimum. Did you know that during a drought the aboriginals would not kill, they knew to conserve the wildlife, and went vegetarian until rains came?
Never ceases to amaze me how these people know the land. Amazing how cool burning actually reduces fires that ravages Vegetation, wildlife and human life. It restores balance. Mindblown
Our Indigenous knowledge and culture are vital to this country's future.
We need to listen to our Indigenous people - to learn and understand how to manage this glorious land we call home.
Traveling in the NT - I visited Kakadu NP, they were burning large areas of tall dry grasses with flames 20' high - looked like a ravished bushfire.
Later, I visited and hiked in Nitmiluk - the landscape looked almost like a manicured garden. The difference was astounding, so I asked a ranger why it was so different.
He told me they work closely together with the Indigenous community on how to manage the land with their knowledge. Small burnings, at different times of the year, some plants every few years. Kakadu does not practice cultural burning.
If you are keen to learn more, read Bill Gammage's book the biggest estate on earth or Bruce Pascoe's Dark Emu. That's decades of study about 1000's of years of Aboriginal country knowledge put into 2 books.
Thank you :)
Thank you. Might buy that.
It's a brilliant book. No doubt you are aware we need this more than ever
Bruce Pascoe is fake.
They're trying to discredit Bruce Pascoe now assassinating his character
It would require a lot more resources to have these well balanced hazard management programs. The current hazard reduction cares more about assets and not enough about nature. The Nowa Nowa protestors knew this and got crucified by the right wing for trying to point out burning off needs to be done better and not just burn it all ashes to protect assets.
🇧🇷 Brazilian here 🙋🏻♀️ This video is absolutely amazing ! Is really important to explain why Austrália has the controlled bushfires 👍🏼
Yes, but the past 5 years they have only reduced 5% overall during an extended drought! This is the actual reason why Australia is currently burning so hard!
Please get you facts right..... The government cut funds.
@@stuff7274 But with "cool burning" like this, I suspect with their knowledge developed over thousands of years, they would be able to burn right through any drought.
Brazilian jungle is a different flora and I'm sure it will need to be modified
No, I disagree. The contemporary australian bush is a scarred remnant of what it was before fire stick management turned it into an artificial remnant of what it was. More firestick management makes for an ongoing problem. Contemporary Australia does not benefit from what 'made hunting easy 500 years ago'. So why embrace it. Why not see it for what it is - unsustainable and unenlightened. We could fix it, we could protect human settlements with fire retardant drought tolerant species...but noooooo. We think the primitive peoples were soooooo much smarter than us. Really?!
Well the aboriginals know more when it comes to the land, they’ve been here longer then us. We should listen to them more to avoid what is happening to the forests.
A population in Australia of over 25,000,000 and this video only has 15,000 views. I'm hoping a lot more saw it when shown on ABC TV at the time.
Seems like a critical point in time has now been reached where going back to the old ways is vital for Australia's renewal.
Great to watch... Victor is one of the best in the country when it comes to fire management practises and he gives his time and knowledge to others, often with no personal benefit. Love to see more programs like this, and more footage like this!
such small scale burning also get rid of pest that damage our trees.. that is wisdom of the old..
GREAT to see younger guys and girls getting in touch with the knowledge of elders , can pass it on to their kids, this is how it should be done :)
Wild fires are created by us white man.
We have no idea how to manage the Australia bush.
Indigenous people have manage this land for thousands of years, with no fire trucks and water bombing air craft.
It's amazing the ABC hasn't taken this down yet.😂
Indigenous Australians are very much I touch with THEIR land and need a stronger voice in land management but sadly it wont be done with this government
Land Management and ancient practices regarding fires should be mandatory.
The Govt. needs to bring back Land Management techniques such as Cultural Burning which protects the Forests and their understory from extreme bushfires.
Helen Brooks It’s mandatory in the Northern Territory and it works at reducing And preventing the spread of fires.
Sweetest documentary, well done, I hope many many more people watch this for the future of both the aboriginal people and land
ive been expressing this to people for yrs they had it sorted before we moved in
These people must be listened to the Aboriginals know their land
The days when it was just empty bush with small numbers of nomadic hunters are over.
Farming, logging and population increases have created a modern first world country.
Time to wake up and join the rest of the global community
Warwick Lewis In many cases, they have. People here are just expressing their ideas of having the Indigenous people manage the National Parks, and see the difference.
@@warwicklewis8735 why do you hate us so much
Thanks for sharing these cultural practices.
Really enjoyed watching this. Would love Dan Morgan to show me how to do this on my land. This method makes far more sense to me than what we've been doing.
we can thank the greens and its supporters for stopping this practice
Impressive, this should be a major strategy Australia wide; and will engage aboriginals in their country.
very interesting. thank you for teaching me. I will teach my Chinese family when we move in to the rural bushlands of Australia
This needs to be looked at in every state and territory fire management and pest weed management
It's called load reduction. It's what we used to do before you crazy greens got involved.
Did you catch what Victor Steffenson said; "The fear of fire, comes from detaching yourself from the landscape; the fear of fire, comes from taking people out of the landscape".
Truth Bomb! The more we separate ourselves from nature; the more Threatened we feel by it!!
We did this year's ago when I was around 7 or 8 year's old , where the rural fire brigade's did this throughout the Victorian Bush , then all of a sudden they were no more , I'm not indigenous , but growing up in Traralgon , Victoria I had some aboriginal people that i usedto muck around with , but getting back to forest management that fuel reduction was phased out WHY is my Question , when it was done the grasses weren't chest high , they were about as high as 30 cm tall & tinder dry , we were told that this aided a Quiet burn throughout the grid that was marked off , even when I worked with A.P. M Forests & we cleared land to plant PINUS RADIATA forest's , the cleared shrub's , after awhile the windrows were set on fire , why I have no idea other than to dry the timber & to make it hard for the tree's to regrow . But any way I would love to see your method bought back to stop these Wildfire's ever happening again , because this time I have no real idea of how many native animals we have lost , or how many rare one's have perrished altogether neve to be seen again , it heart breaking to see animal's dead & dying on the forest floor in these Wildfires of 2019 - 2020 !!!
I. Gutted that my beautiful Australia is burning ...my hert goes out to our Indigenous people who have lived her long before WW1 ...where my grandfathers. Fought for Australia .❤💙💚💛🧡💜🖤💖
We could employ tribes to do this all over the country, and in turn give them a purpose which helps the country as a whole. They could also teach the rural fire services the cool burn method to reduce invasive flora.
Geez these guys are seriously on the money. It's a shame it's common sense and today's mind can't see the wood for the trees.
Beautiful to hear the Love they have for their land
If you rely on the land to provide you with everything you need to sustain your life, I'm pretty sure you too would appreciate it, as our indigenous people do.
im looking at those giant ants crawling on the old fellas shirt..
Yeah, that was hard to ignore. Think it's a small grasshopper.
This white Aussie old women been saying this for over 20 years ..... now look where we are.😣😭...please let our indigenous peoples take care of the land.
The people of the land know and understand the land better than anyone hence they are referred as the custodians of the land
It may not be full solution to modern day problems but there is much we can learn from the ancient wisdom of these native folk about nature's ways.
We should put the knowledgeable aboriginal people in charge. They know exactly what they are doing.
You've got to look at the history of this country - which is predominantly Indigenous, so many people don't factor that in! The european element in Australia's population has only been here for a mere couple of hundred years whilst Indigenous Australians have been here for several thousand decades... it's time we shut up and listened for a change. You only have to look at how Australian native plants and their seeds have learned to adapt to fire (many will not germinate without some kind of heat/ash involved) - Australia is a land that is used to burning. Unfortunately, due to agricultural practises and human driven climate change, fire has changed to become a much larger, life-endangering threat - we really need to step back and let Indigenous communities take the lead on this. If there's one thing they know much better than us is how to care for the land. They know what they're talking about, and the science is there to back them.
I would be completely happy for the Commonwealth Government to increase GST if needed to holey and solely fund a new super dept combining land, water, native animals and fisheries where as far as land management is concerned RFS would be become a fully paid profession with a fleet of fire fighting aircraft and together with rangers and indigenous people that have the knowledge to implement, practice and teach "anyone" who is diserious of a paid career as a professional land manager all work together to get this country back to how it was when us whities came ashore because if the Canberra bush fire didn't wake up the nation that if i can happen to the nations capital it can happen anywhere and everywhere then we have learned nothing from this nation wide disaster. Mr Morrison this is your time to shine and be a leader that Australians far into the future will remember and revere, not for a short term balancing of a budget but for securing a nations ecological future.
so let me get this straight: you're using fire to stop fire.
at first it makes no sense but after watching the video, now i get it.
The government fined a firefighter $100.000 for back-burning around his home. When the fires came through his was the only house in the area to survive.
Please listen to these people. They are right. Lives will be saved.
This is absolutely fascinating
True! One reason the fires come back is the dark green herbs and medicine plants that keep the forest from burning, have been removed. Hot fires do kill the seeds and keep the forest from maintaining it healthy balance!
It's wonderful that you've spoken to the ABC. Of course you would know all about looking after the land. and should be teaching us how. The land is your mother? That is so beautiful Speak to your Council, too. Try to find people who are interested in knowing. The sooner the knowledge gets passed around the better and I'm going to write to the Government and the ABC. Blessings to you and many thanks.
Great stuff this what happens when a community engages and doesn't let the angry squad get involved in their affairs. And as someone from the Left, this is the kind of projects that I support. The Aboriginal Australians have had this knowledge for 60,000 years and yet we ignore their processes and experience. We have a criminal attitude towards these communities when we should be cherishing their cultures.
Very compelling, let's do this instead.
very nice, well
We NEED this in California.
Great stuff ABC keep pushing this as it takes a long time to re educate the populace. Ex RFS Jeff Moore
These indigenous people have got it right we need to listen and learn from them. When it comes to looking after the bush our governments have learned nothing
The Quicker you take The Green Mobsters out of the Equation, the Better it will be for Everyone in Australia. My Respects and Condolences to Those Who Have Lost Their Lives and Their Families and Friends. From Chris in Derbyshire, England. PS: Honour to Those Who Are Risking Their Lives To Protect Others.
yes, burning off the trash in the cool damp season, instead of an explosive fire in the hot dry season. it burns around the trees, but doesn't ignite them. been there, done that, it works.....
We learned this in school. The govs knows this too. Australia is one of the countries that knows the full knowlegde of bushfires. Pros, cons etc. I guess when the PM and his croonies investments become a threat is when they will do something about it.
This has been going on for many, many decades, covering both labor and liberal governments. Stop pushing your barrow. The blame lies with government at ALL levels.
Not very long, but was worth the watch.
Surely this attention can’t be given to the vast areas that’ve been destroyed in recent/current fires?
huge areas need to be cleared around populated areas at the VERY least to protect us
@@anaussie8830 NO, they don't. Common sense is required to MANAGE these areas properly. Simple as that. People demanding to live in such vulnerable areas, need to accept the responsibility that comes with living in such locations and contribute to the costs involved, as well as ensuring fire safety systems are installed on their homes. Let's face it, in the video clips of these burnt out homes, how many times did you see a swimming pool or rain water tank, (steel) still standing, with the pools even having water still in them ? Water that could have saved their home if they had installed a sprinkler system on their roof ????
Very good idea. But Australia is 59 times the size of England. Big job.
If this was implemented years ago it wouldn't be. Now its beyond they're capabilities alone.
Now they might be listening to the elders
I doubt it brother. Many of that mob down in the meeting place reckon us black fellas are joombi dungals.
I keep saying we should employ the Indigenous people to run all the National parks
Yep , they should and hopefully will into the future .
Exactly...these people managed the land for thousands of yrs..maybe some of these city slickers should listen!!!!
Put funds into implementing this methodology. These guys know what they are doing and it will be great for indigenous employment. What we have been doing is not working. Green tape is not working. Complaining greenies are not working.
Gawwwwed wish I could thumbs up a million time over 👍X 1,000,000
I pray that we are able to implement Cultural burning, the evidence is there with positive results.
The wisdom and knowledge of the Indigenous people should not be lost at any cost. We should not be ignorant to it. Sadly this has happened with many other Indigenous cultures around the world too.
I hope we can make this change for our Mother Earth, for all living beings on Earth.
Thank you for sharing 🙏
We need an education program lead by the indigenous to lead us all into a safer future by learning about cultural burning.
This is what we should have done. When the greens came to my town last year they were protesting against back burning. Boy they couldn't be wrong.
Smart people
good for our country
I don't in any way blame the firies for "backburning" mismanagement, as they are doing this work unpaid as usual. We expect too much from them.
But if this Bega experiment worked then it needs to be adopted Australia wide. I know that Bega was hit by the recent bushfires as well and it would be interesting to see how well this worked.
What we need is a conscripted "Land Army" of volunteers, that need to be taught the Aboriginal ways of cool burning. It's too big a job for the Aboriginals alone of the volunteer firies. Everyone should be "conscripted" : to give up 3 weekends a year to help cool burn the forests with Aboriginals employed to teach us. Everyone says they are feeling helpless - well this is a way to help. This is labour intensive. If you care for Australia, you would do it. I will.
Less fake news & more of this please abc.
I thought the greens cared about the land so why they stopped this and clearing the dead wood
And farmers clearing their land from potential fuel for the fires
I get them out of their office and get them to help fight the fires
Maybe then they will get it.
The Australian Government Needs to employ our wonderful and amazing Aboriginal Australians to undertake all pre fire season burning. They have done it for thousands of years .
I hope the government listen to you, been trying to get the message out in the UK that this is due to poor land and water management rather than alarmist CLIMATE CHANGE. My heart goes our to you all and wish I could do more to help through this extremely difficult time to both wildlife and human, must be difficult to get over mentally. Love you all and hope for better understanding from those who make these crazy ideas from pen pushers.
Yes there is a history of poor land management but the extaordinary impact of the summer wildfires is driven by climate change. It's not alarmism, it's reality. Wake up!
well done
Dear ABC. Can you please rebroadcast this video in the coming weeks, during Prime Time TV !
Cheers :)
We CAN prevent wild fires, if we LOOK AFTER THE LAND.
We could overhaul our broken welfare system and replace it with jobs, land managers' jobs
We could do work for the dole and mandatory training. The manpower required post 2019-2020 bushfires will need tens of thousands of people.
Federica McLeod Yep, i’d sign up 👍🏼
Hello dear friend!
Very interesting!
I love your materials and I will always be in contact with your work.
Wake up Australia have a look at how it’s done 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
In many places in Africa controlled bush burning takes place at a certain time of the year. It's just a part of our lifestyle. There are times when 'scientific know-how' tries to prevent this. I suppose it can be called cultural because it's been done for centuries by local folks and those who came to Africa at a later date.
Fabulous knowledge shown here. It needs to be integrated with federal policies and for homeland security policies.