@@Angiegonzalezb it's Russia. The ISU likes to kiss Russia's ass. Which is why the remaining Russian Olympic Committee team members (Mark, Victoria, Nikita, Anastasia, and Aleksandr) are still getting team bronze medals even after the disqualification of Kamila Valieva. Those defending Russia say that it's because even after rescoring and tossing out Kamila's results, they still beat Canada. Which is technically true, but morally wrong.
What bother me is a lot of people are now saying that after this admission from Adelina, Yuna now truly deserves the gold, which is true. But even without this, Yuna always deserved the gold, whether the other party doped or not. Yuna deserved the gold purely because she was the best that night
She explained it in her last video, but since the sport is subjective there’s nothing people could really do. But now that there is proof she was positive for doping that’s undeniable proof that she didn’t win.
At this point I'll take anything to get yuna her gold she deserved. IOC and ISU rejected the claim of corruption so whatever angle we have left for yuna 2x ogm, we should take it. I think that's most fans are thinking right now
@@Fume.N78 eh. I think that no matter how much the sport is subjective, even without the doping allegations, Yuna still won it. The judging was fucked up since they did not catch her flutzes, underrotation in her combination, and the obvious two footed landing (it was called but like -0.9???). You can see it in the GOEs that Adelina was being stacked with these point that she wasn't getting earlier 2 months before the olympics. Although idk where the doping will lead the situation, yuna deserves the gold regardless.
Yuna should have won even if Adelina wasn't exposed..... It is so blantantly obvious that Yuna was far and away better than Adelina in every aspect of figure skating possible. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE PRETENDING THAT IT WAS JUST SOME MAD KOREANS WHO THOUGHT IT WAS UNFAIR. It is so fucking obvious that it was cheated. HOW IN ANYWAY WAS SHE BETTER THAN YUNA OR CAROLINA.
@luvl1344 I am with you 100% about Mao Asada, Magically transfer her to a different era, 80's, 90's, etc, she would kick butt and take names in the skating world....she just had bad luck in the Olympics, In a way, I see her as a Michelle Kwan of her time, I think that Kwan got incredibly unlucky having to skate much earlier than Tara Lipinski thus losing the OGM....I think that the American figure skating fans got spoiled with Michelle Kwan, they figured that She was going to skate forever.....I hope the Japanese and South Korean figure skating fans realize how lucky they were to have had Asada and Yuna respectively....They both were truly special.
@luvl1344 she competed in the wrong era. I agree that if she competed prior to the 2010 era or after 2014, her scores would've been higher. Mao's Sochi FS was the skate of the event.
I actually read from a Russian regarding the medals wait: "The Americans are being impatient, the Japanese have been so well behaved this whole time." Like, WHAAAATTT???
Actually it took the Belgian 4x100m female track team 6 years to get their gold medals from the 2008 Olympic games after one of the Russian team tested positive.
By the way, you didn't mention it in the video, but the Korean Sports Council has requested the IOC to re-examine Sotnikova’s case after her remarks about the positive sample 🤯 the plot thickens 😆
yess, I'm glad that they are standing up for their athletes. Yuna Kim always deserved the medal, doping or no doping. But now I'm interested how this is going to turn out
I just don’t understand how it was swept under the rug. If the A sample was positive and B was negative that would raise more questions, at least it would for me.
Agreed! If the samples don't match then you know either one was a false read or was contaminated. But you have to do further testing to determine which, but instead they said "nahh we want to cheat"
If the positive A-sample would've been false positive we'd know. Any sample can be tested again, as you never use up all of the sample and can easily test another few ml. The B-sample was eighter never tested and just proclaimed "negative" or they had another person pee in a cup and put her name on it.
The point is to give athletes a second chance with the b sample to redeem themselves. There is a chance that the a sample might have been tested incorrectly so to corroborate that they test the b sample. If it shows up positive as well then that’s a definite drug use but if it’s negative that usually means there was a flaw somewhere when testing a. And because Russia tampered with everything single b sample there was no way to prove if their athletes were doping. And we’ll actually never be able to find out.
Have you noticed russians are deleting failed performances of their skaters? Lipnitskaya's viral skate is there yet in order to find her failed attempts you need to go trough X pages of Google videos until you reach spanish/portugese publications lol Yuna's gala skate is on ISU and Olympics YT channel yet Sotnikova's clown gala performance is nowhere to be found. Same with Kamila's failed skate, where is it except Eurosport? Gone. Also if you comment ANYTHING about doping and corruption ISU and Olympics channel will delete your comment. Russian influence on them is beyond my understanding.
Well, i do not think that it is a Russian influence. Nobody also published Carolina Kostner's failed skates at Torino, Vancoever and Pyonchang as separate videos or Mao's bombed SP in Sochi as separate videos. As for russians, there are quite a number of their failed performaces. For my post, i searched for Lipnistakaya's failed skates post-Sochi, Zagitova's bombed FPs in Euro, Nationals and GPF-2019, Valieva's bombed FS in Olympics. And last time i ve seen them, all of those videos were intact.
Who is deleting the comments? I just described what Sotnikova did in her failed skate TWICE and it got removed twice from here! Idk who's responsible but nobody will forget that fail Sotnikova is
imagine doping but you still skate as bad as she was. Granted that she was not that bad compared to most Russian women but if doping achieved that, I'd be very sad.
honestly bizarre how that just came out of her mouth like imagine getting away with a crime + AN OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL and then opening your mouth again on it??? like what is this, did we think double jeopardy applied her? amazing honestly
2:43 i think that russia doesn’t see doping their athletes as cheating, i think they see it as ‘using their resources,’ and if this were like for a 4th grade spelling test, i don’t think a lot of people would care, BUT THIS IS A WORLDWIDE SPORTING EVENT WHERE ONE OF THE KEY TENETS OF THE COMPETITION IS TO HAVE GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP. and seeing the reaction from Kamila and now from sotnikova about being the victims of what they see as a smear campaign-i think it’s clear that they are fed these medications under the guise that they’re just like multivitamins or something. and on top of that, i think that russian society must be desensitized to what doping really means?? that’s one of the only reasons that i can come up when i try and look at things from their side?? that and nationalism bc they think the west is out to get them?? they CONSTANTLY get caught for doping-like since the 80s-and every. damn. time. they’re like “ugh you guys just love attacking us🙄ugh what did we ever do, like get over it, way to ruin the fun🙄” THATS WHAT I FEEL THEIR ATTITUDE IS. and like they clearly put a lot of stock into sports-as sports are state-funded in russia-as a way to ‘show the might’ of russia but then???? they keep??? getting caught???!! for doping! and they’re like “guys🥺why do you keep testing us for performance enhancing dwugs you guys🥺that’s not vewy spowrtsmen wike of yew😣” but YOU did this??? YOU are reaping what you sewed bc now every single time a russian athlete succeeds EVERYONE will invalidate the success by just assuming they cheated. that isn’t showing the might of a country, that’s PATHETIC. like a GOVERNMENT SPONSORED cheating program is so fking sad and just literally pathetic!! they want their athletes to succeed so that the russian people will feel even more national pride and then the russian government will be able to turn around and use what essentially are their government employees (bc sports are state sponsored) to distract the russian people and use the athletes as propaganda-ITS BREAD AND CIRCUS YALL. so so sorry for the rambling, no one read this but i needed to get it off my chest😮💨
It's the same kind of situation as giving out a quiz and having students buy answer sheets instead of study, sadly. Results oriented combined with lack of accountability so it's only distractions when caught. If only we could have had a Kamila doping case during Adelina's era instead of now.
Sotnikova really felt like the world was already forgetting she existed and she came back with a BANGER 😂😂😂. I hope they investigate and finally give Yuna her always deserved 🥇, and upgrade Carolina to 🥈 and Gracie to 🥉. It actually makes sense to me now WHY they didn't allow her to participate in the Team event in 2014 and gave Yulia double duty, they were afraid that the B sample might've been positive too and their 🥇 taken away, after all it didn't matter if her or Yulia did the FP, they would've won no matter what.
It's not like Yulia was not doped as well. I highly suspected that she was too because we all know how Eteri method is. Adelina didn't get team event duty because she was less talented than yulia. Yes even both were doped, inherent talents still played big roles to the final product we got.
@@yohanes2034 You might be right, at this point I'm willing to believe anything, no wonder why Yulia was so physically destroyed before she retired, just think about being starved, put in a powder diet and possible doping substances in her body, I hate Eteri so much.
Yulia competing twice made sense already. She was 15, cute, had had inflated scores all season, was popular with both Russian and non-Russian crowds and was great propaganda for the Kremlin
Excited about Zhenya's documentary! I think Adelina saw it as responding with support for Kamila's case but unfortunately the culture around doping in Russia makes a lot of things seem normal to say that are actually suspicious in other places...
She competed fraudulently on all levels tho- she doped as evidenced by the sample tampering, and was involved in corrupt judging which was clear when she hugged a judge. Tho with the latter it was already clear with the protocols. The judges clearly could’ve been strict if they wanted- look how they treated Mao Asada whose jump and edge problems aren’t even as bad as Sotnikova, who has much better PCS. Give Yuna her gold.
By the way she made open letter explaining the thing about doping: "The media has already attributed to me that I confessed to the use of illegal drugs. Guys, you can't do that! The phrase "they found doping in my blood." There are many options at the heart of the meaning of the phrase: from a confirmed dirty sample to a sampling error and a damaged test tube, a violation by the doping officer of the sampling protocol, transportation and storage of samples One thought rushes through my head - where is it from? what dope? And panic: “Aaah, I have doping???!!!”. This block remains for a long time. And when we talk about it, and in passing, we say so: “They told me that they found doping in my blood.” But it turned out to be a problem with the test tube, a scratch ..."
I hope the IOC responds to the KSOC request for an investigation. Yuna deserves justice! And, Koster should be elevated as well. 2023 is totally baffling me. Maybe this will be resolved faster than whatever the hell is going on with the 2022 Team Gold!
It's so cool and fun that the russian skating fed enables this behavior in young athletes and then lets them and their image take the fall, never actually having to change the practices
This should be the moment where the IOC shuts down the ISU and replaces it from the ground up. Its all just theatrics because Russia still practically owns the IOC but needs to be given the sport's death penalty but nobody has the guts to do it.
I could be completely off base here, but I feel like if one is doing it, a bunch of others are too. If we think of how many times Kamila didn't test positive, then it's possible people are doing it their whole careers and never getting caught
Exactly, and how many other skaters from the same training camp are doing the same but didn’t get caught. Every result where this coach and doctor are the trainers should be invalidated.
Kamila got positive once with a dose so tiny that it’s not consistent with regular use of doping. Other Eteri’s athletes NEVER tested positive at all and they have been tested for years during all major competitions. Yet people here just “assume “ everyone is doping for sure. Bloggers must be doing pretty good job brainwashing you guys😂
Polina Edmunds said on The Skating Lesson that she was at a competition with the Russians and they were basically discussing what their doctors had given them in the changeroom
Team eteri probably put a hit out on her. Sports mean EVERYTHING to the Russians and they'll do anything to gaslight people into believing that they aren't cheating.
I think Sotnikova was trying to display the Russian girls as the victim: she's sing the positive test and Kamila example to say that the International community have some sort of agenda against Russian athletes and is using it to put them in a better light.
Or she feels legitamatly innocent. A trainer could give them 'vitamin pills,' and they may never find out. In DDR-Germany, which was run by Russia, there was a chase of a young girl in rowing not wanting to dope anymore (because of negative health effects). Her trainer said concerned: "Then stop taking them, but promise me to eat a bar of chocolate every day instead, to prevent weight loss." The chocolate, that she ate dutifully for years, was laced with doping and ruined her health.
TBH I don't miss the Russians in competitions at all. Even with talented skaters it wasn't and still isn't worth the drama! Will Yuna eventually get her deserved gold medal? I doubt it.
Same! And I don't think they were (beside jumps) that talented, especially without doping. Their programs haven't been that interesting and they are so young and unexperienced that I haven't seen any good performances from them :(
Come on, you are just happy the entire female and pairs podium is free to be taken by weaker athletes who otherwise wouldn’t stand a chance. No one even comes close nowadays to Kami’s “storm” or Kostornaya’s “angel”. Loads of people miss Trusova and her passion for figure skating. But you are free to pretend otherwise.
@@elenamastiukova2787 1) I don't even watch pairs 2) those girls were really talented, could've had a long and great career, but under Eteri all those bright stars are burnt to ashes, after max. 18 years old they're gone and can't compete and/or their story revolves around whatever scandal or drama. 🙄
@@heyheyvicky1498 1) I was referring to both comments in this section 2)journalists make up drama about Eteri’s girl, after all it’s what’s getting all the attention. Paola here is hyping on Tutberidze team victimizing girls and savoring it, while the audience laps it up😂😂 In reality former Eteri’s students are doing great after stopping their career. Lipnitskaya started her school, had a baby and skates in Pluschenko’s shows. Both Zagitova and Medvedeva work on TV and have lots of contracts, they skate in shows and make a lot of money. They also study, travel and enjoy their popularity. Medvedeva said recently she’s got “good human relationship with Tutberidze “. Trusova and Scherbakova haven’t finished their careers yet but if they do next season, chances are it’s because of the ban not because of “evil coach”. However, Anna said in an interview this month she is wishing to compete again. Kostornaya switched to pairs as everyone knows, so she’s not done yet and she’s in her 20-s. Kamila wants to keep skating (unless she’s banned, who knows?) She’s a huge star in Russia, she’s loved and respected and can skate for as long as she wants and she’ll be the star of any show. You see , drama and negativity is for the world to enjoy and the bloggers to hype on.
@@elenamastiukova2787But what about Medvedeva being unable to rotate her back in a particular direction due to injuring herself so badly when she was an Eteri skater? I don’t know if becoming a celebrity makes up for living in constant pain. If she’s hurting this much and she’s not even 30, it’s going to become agonizing in her later years, and no amount of fame or money can heal that pain.
this feels very much like a spur if the moment, pick me moment on Adelina’s part and it’s kinda hilarious how it backfired 😂 girlie was NOT thinking of the consequences
Yes! Also the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics where 🇨🇦 Sale & Pelletier were initially robbed of their gold medals and were robbed of their golden Olympic moment.
Because she was never a top medal contender to begin with. A 9th place finisher at the 2013 world's and last place finisher at the 2013 GPF.. in what world does she deserve a near world record score at the olympics? There's already a difference between a gold and bronze medalist in skill, let alone the huge gap from 1st and a top 10 skater..
quite often it's the athletes that have no chance. Sesil Karantancheva got done for doping in tennis and she was the world number 60 or something. At the London Olympics one of the female artistic gymnasts from Uzbekistan tested positive when she had zero chance of winning
What gets me is that Adelina put her foot in her mouth in such a spectacular way and so unprompted, it seems like some fever dream. It sounds like something the depths of Twitter would birth, but no it was her, only her. Like the KSU is again pushing for an investigation and Yuna Kim has now even more supporters to get her deserved medal. I think no one had it on their Bingo card, but here we are. Also some comments I have read about the physical state of Medvedevas body are horrifying.
You know, sometimes, because the only sport I follow is figure skating, sometimes I wonder if other sports also have mess like this? And I'm not talking about huge mainstream sports like basketball and football, I mean other sports that are somewhat niche. Do curling fans also have regular doping scandals? Do rhythmic gymnastics fans have fandom wars and rigged wins? Does swimming have block voting scandals? Is figure skating okay?
Rhythmic gymnastics was heavily dominated by Russia until the last Olympics (where they won silver in the individual final and in the group final) and boy, did it get bloody quick...
Most normal sports played by adults are like figure skating but take out Russia. It still has controversies, but it’s not a non-stop flaming disaster that figure skating has become. Without Russia I think everything should be bit closer to normal.
Ideally, the ioc should reopen this case and investigate the A and B samples since it's still within the 10 year time frame. Will it really happen? The IOC seems to consider the case closed based on the B sample. Don't forget that she was cleared by rodchenkov which actually makes zero sense to me. It's more likely her samples were swapped but why did he say he didn't swap hers? Odd. But what if it was kamila's doctor who participated in that since he was the team doctor for the skaters? Anyway, I doubt anything would result from this but if they were to reinvestigate the samples, we would probably find out that she doped for real. In the end, karma is real and even if she isn't stripped of the medal, she'll forever remain a pariah in the sport.
I am worried about Adelina Sotnikova's safety, with the "Mysterious Deaths" of anybody who is in disagreement with Russian Leadership/Putin, I hope nothing happens....On my opinion of the Sochi Olympics, If I had a magic wand, I would have given the medals like this. First with Double Gold Medals, Kim Yuna, and Carolina Kostner Second, Adelina Sotnikova Third, Mao Asada Why Yuna and Kostner with gold? Because I think they both skated Gold Medal short and long programs. Why Sotnikova with silver? Because I think she skated good enough to get on the medal stand, In this case I give her silver because Yuna and Kostner skated so brilliantly. Why Asada with bronze? Because she skated such a brilliant Long Program and I want to acknowledge how well she did. Anyway Thank You Paola La for your great channel!!!!
Yuna would have beaten Carolina technically She was already ahead in the short. Mao fell twice in the short so she wasn't going anywhere near the podium. I would have had her ahead of Julia though but I would have had Ashley ahead of both of them. Third was a coin toss between Adelina and Gracie.
you should watch the icarus documentary... talks about exactly how the A samples for russia are positive but the B samples were swapped so they come back fine
theres a documentary about margarita mamun - russian 2016 olympic champion in rhythmic gymnastics. i am sure they didnt air a lot of the ugliness but it does show you how the head coach(who is also the head of the federation) irina viner was insulting her like her life depended on it ruclips.net/video/IEVM6C6Ks_s/видео.html yeah man, this woman agreed to act like this on camera, she doesnt see a problem to be seen like this, she is proud of it
Margarita herself says she’s grateful to her coaches that they pushed her to gold medal and the film didn’t include the good things about her training process. Anyway, Mamun is a mom now, she works on tv and enjoys her success. There’s no need to victimize her.
Viner is a bukhary jew, what else did you expect. Call of blood. For centuries, her ancestors sent caravans of stolen tatar children to Istanbul bazaars.
It baffles me that nothing has been done after Adelina admitted this, an investigation should've been launched right away and she should've been stripped. Kamila's investigation should've also been long finished by now and the team should've been stripped of the gold medal. It didn't matter that she was 15, the moral of the story was that she doped/was doped. No one else would've gotten away with those statements/test results, but because they're Russian they're able to sweep it under the rug or significantly delay the investigation results
I know that many people today think that Yuna's routine was not enough compared to today's quadruple jumps and complex movements, but if we analyze it, Yuna is one of the few skaters who performed a jump at an impeccable level of amesatria, enough to write a book about them, how she connects everything with the music and her god level of interpretation, it's magic what she does...
From what I know, the "admission" is a mistranslation. She was discussing her doping test, and how her B sample was looked at with suspicion due to weird scratches on it that could suggest tampering. I don't believe she said the A test was positive, that is the mistranslated part.
She did say that the A sample was positive. That's why she followed it up with "there was going to be a trial and everything". But all that fell to the wayside after the B sample was conveniently found to be clean.
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Let's be honest, women's figure skating is the most popular sport in the Winter Olympics. There's no way in hell Russia didn't dope their skaters to win the crown jewel when the world's eyes were on them.
@@silkentertainment6749 The Russian Olympic Committee finally got banned by the IOC in Oct 2023 for blatantly trying to claim athletes from parts of occupied Ukraine as their own. But individual Russian athletes will STILL be allowed to compete at the Olympics as “neutral athletes” with no flag or anthem.
I’m so tired of people saying that kamila is overscored just bc she has a full blade assist on her flip and lutz like that is NOT what defines being one of the best skaters. She has a lot more in her Bolero and In memoriam programs than most skaters. In fact, most skaters are unable to have that many transitions and that level of flexibility combined with strength. speed, height, distance, extension, strength, flexibility, interpretation… you guys turn a blind eye to other components of figure skating other than jumps.
Lutz and Flip are the hardest and highest scoring jumps in this sport apart from Axel. It is an indisputable fact that the elements you have listed are also important elements. But Kamila competes in women's single discipline, not ice dance discipline, so the most important element in her discipline is jumps. That's why it bothers people that the Lutz and Flip jumps of Kamila, in which she uses the wrong technique, get higher scores than the skaters who execute these jumps with the textbook technique. People just want to watch fair competition.
She is overscored. She skates slowly, the transitions are to hide it. She also skates on flat edges. All Eteri girls also nearly come to a stop when they jump (masked by transitions), use the momentum of their arms instead of the strength in their legs to get into the air and then land with a thud before taking time to skate away. She also has this lost mouse facial expression the whole time, which is not that artistic. Jumps are the highest scoring element and they're giving high GOE scores to someone who essentially is not only jumping with her training wheels, but can't even ride the bike correctly anyway.
Nope. In a test like that you can easily test the A-Sample again, which is what they probably did. We'd have heard about it, had it been false-positive. The Russians would've been talking about that. The B-sample being clean was because it was exshanged with a clean sample during the great Sotschi doping scandal. Nothing else.
i always believed that yuna deserved to win but god she REALLY deserved that medal now
We all believe that Yuna is just there between all the drama but deep inside she deserved to win that medal cuz I think she works the hardest
Adelina didn’t say that actually
Strip her of the gold... And give it to Yuna
Yuna Kim potentially getting justice for Sochi 2014 was not on my 2023 bingo card
It still shouldn’t be. Nothing is going to change.
@@brynneholt1990why?
@@Angiegonzalezb it's Russia. The ISU likes to kiss Russia's ass. Which is why the remaining Russian Olympic Committee team members (Mark, Victoria, Nikita, Anastasia, and Aleksandr) are still getting team bronze medals even after the disqualification of Kamila Valieva. Those defending Russia say that it's because even after rescoring and tossing out Kamila's results, they still beat Canada. Which is technically true, but morally wrong.
What bother me is a lot of people are now saying that after this admission from Adelina, Yuna now truly deserves the gold, which is true. But even without this, Yuna always deserved the gold, whether the other party doped or not. Yuna deserved the gold purely because she was the best that night
She explained it in her last video, but since the sport is subjective there’s nothing people could really do. But now that there is proof she was positive for doping that’s undeniable proof that she didn’t win.
@@Fume.N78yeah I agree. Still irks me that we know deep down Yuna deserved the gold, doping or no doping, but we can’t prove it with metrics
@@yeetfailure1017 yeah for sure
At this point I'll take anything to get yuna her gold she deserved. IOC and ISU rejected the claim of corruption so whatever angle we have left for yuna 2x ogm, we should take it. I think that's most fans are thinking right now
@@Fume.N78 eh. I think that no matter how much the sport is subjective, even without the doping allegations, Yuna still won it. The judging was fucked up since they did not catch her flutzes, underrotation in her combination, and the obvious two footed landing (it was called but like -0.9???). You can see it in the GOEs that Adelina was being stacked with these point that she wasn't getting earlier 2 months before the olympics. Although idk where the doping will lead the situation, yuna deserves the gold regardless.
didnt some russian literally say "i beg you sotnikova is clean because no one on performance enhancing medication can skate that awfully" 💀💀
LMFAO😭😭
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So even Russians agree that she shouldn't have gotten gold!
Yuna should have won even if Adelina wasn't exposed..... It is so blantantly obvious that Yuna was far and away better than Adelina in every aspect of figure skating possible. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE PRETENDING THAT IT WAS JUST SOME MAD KOREANS WHO THOUGHT IT WAS UNFAIR. It is so fucking obvious that it was cheated. HOW IN ANYWAY WAS SHE BETTER THAN YUNA OR CAROLINA.
@@eeeeeeeeeee2 I agree with you 100%....the ISU skating organization has a LOT to answer for....
Even mao's sochi free skate should've been scored way higher than adelina's
@luvl1344 I am with you 100% about Mao Asada, Magically transfer her to a different era, 80's, 90's, etc, she would kick butt and take names in the skating world....she just had bad luck in the Olympics, In a way, I see her as a Michelle Kwan of her time, I think that Kwan got incredibly unlucky having to skate much earlier than Tara Lipinski thus losing the OGM....I think that the American figure skating fans got spoiled with Michelle Kwan, they figured that She was going to skate forever.....I hope the Japanese and South Korean figure skating fans realize how lucky they were to have had Asada and Yuna respectively....They both were truly special.
@luvl1344 she competed in the wrong era. I agree that if she competed prior to the 2010 era or after 2014, her scores would've been higher. Mao's Sochi FS was the skate of the event.
Weil die Russen im Männereishockey rausgeflogen sind, musste eine andere Goldmedaille her.
It baffles me that we’re still trying to get everyone their medals. It’s sad that the sport has come to this
I actually read from a Russian regarding the medals wait: "The Americans are being impatient, the Japanese have been so well behaved this whole time." Like, WHAAAATTT???
@@strawberrylime33 that’s so insane!
Actually it took the Belgian 4x100m female track team 6 years to get their gold medals from the 2008 Olympic games after one of the Russian team tested positive.
@nefretirit8247 thats crazy
By the way, you didn't mention it in the video, but the Korean Sports Council has requested the IOC to re-examine Sotnikova’s case after her remarks about the positive sample 🤯 the plot thickens 😆
Well Hallelujah to that, although tbh given the aftermath of the team tutberidze doping scandal I don't have high hopes in the justice of isu/ioc/wada
yess, I'm glad that they are standing up for their athletes. Yuna Kim always deserved the medal, doping or no doping. But now I'm interested how this is going to turn out
As they should
They need to purge the IOC of all the corrupt Russian judges and their proxy minions.
@@NG-ue4th I think it's RUSADA that are the biggest barrier
I just don’t understand how it was swept under the rug. If the A sample was positive and B was negative that would raise more questions, at least it would for me.
In the video Adelina claimed that A sample was positive because of contamination but you are right, it’s suspicious 🤷🏼♀️
Because it was in Russia. They had full control there. They wanted their Olympics champion and they made it happen.
Agreed! If the samples don't match then you know either one was a false read or was contaminated. But you have to do further testing to determine which, but instead they said "nahh we want to cheat"
If the positive A-sample would've been false positive we'd know. Any sample can be tested again, as you never use up all of the sample and can easily test another few ml.
The B-sample was eighter never tested and just proclaimed "negative" or they had another person pee in a cup and put her name on it.
The point is to give athletes a second chance with the b sample to redeem themselves. There is a chance that the a sample might have been tested incorrectly so to corroborate that they test the b sample. If it shows up positive as well then that’s a definite drug use but if it’s negative that usually means there was a flaw somewhere when testing a. And because Russia tampered with everything single b sample there was no way to prove if their athletes were doping. And we’ll actually never be able to find out.
Have you noticed russians are deleting failed performances of their skaters?
Lipnitskaya's viral skate is there yet in order to find her failed attempts you need to go trough X pages of Google videos until you reach spanish/portugese publications lol
Yuna's gala skate is on ISU and Olympics YT channel yet Sotnikova's clown gala performance is nowhere to be found. Same with Kamila's failed skate, where is it except Eurosport? Gone.
Also if you comment ANYTHING about doping and corruption ISU and Olympics channel will delete your comment.
Russian influence on them is beyond my understanding.
Ahhh I remember watching Sotnikova's gala performance on some random yt video...truly a head-scratching abomination...
Well, i do not think that it is a Russian influence. Nobody also published Carolina Kostner's failed skates at Torino, Vancoever and Pyonchang as separate videos or Mao's bombed SP in Sochi as separate videos. As for russians, there are quite a number of their failed performaces. For my post, i searched for Lipnistakaya's failed skates post-Sochi, Zagitova's bombed FPs in Euro, Nationals and GPF-2019, Valieva's bombed FS in Olympics. And last time i ve seen them, all of those videos were intact.
@@АнастасияРозова-ц2з on isu and Olympics? Cuz I can only see them posted on Eurosport yt channel
Who is deleting the comments?
I just described what Sotnikova did in her failed skate TWICE and it got removed twice from here!
Idk who's responsible but nobody will forget that fail Sotnikova is
@@zonedutopia They probably have key words for comments that result in them deleted
Imagine doping and you still have a flutz 😂
Doping has nothing to do with your technique are you dumb?
Imagine doping and still be landing on two feet xd
it's not like doping will change one's technique.
imagine doping but you still skate as bad as she was.
Granted that she was not that bad compared to most Russian women but if doping achieved that, I'd be very sad.
Imagine doping and having full blade assist on half your jumps.. *cough cough Kamila.
honestly bizarre how that just came out of her mouth like imagine getting away with a crime + AN OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL and then opening your mouth again on it??? like what is this, did we think double jeopardy applied her? amazing honestly
2:43 i think that russia doesn’t see doping their athletes as cheating, i think they see it as ‘using their resources,’ and if this were like for a 4th grade spelling test, i don’t think a lot of people would care, BUT THIS IS A WORLDWIDE SPORTING EVENT WHERE ONE OF THE KEY TENETS OF THE COMPETITION IS TO HAVE GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP. and seeing the reaction from Kamila and now from sotnikova about being the victims of what they see as a smear campaign-i think it’s clear that they are fed these medications under the guise that they’re just like multivitamins or something. and on top of that, i think that russian society must be desensitized to what doping really means?? that’s one of the only reasons that i can come up when i try and look at things from their side?? that and nationalism bc they think the west is out to get them?? they CONSTANTLY get caught for doping-like since the 80s-and every. damn. time. they’re like “ugh you guys just love attacking us🙄ugh what did we ever do, like get over it, way to ruin the fun🙄” THATS WHAT I FEEL THEIR ATTITUDE IS. and like they clearly put a lot of stock into sports-as sports are state-funded in russia-as a way to ‘show the might’ of russia but then???? they keep??? getting caught???!! for doping! and they’re like “guys🥺why do you keep testing us for performance enhancing dwugs you guys🥺that’s not vewy spowrtsmen wike of yew😣” but YOU did this??? YOU are reaping what you sewed bc now every single time a russian athlete succeeds EVERYONE will invalidate the success by just assuming they cheated. that isn’t showing the might of a country, that’s PATHETIC. like a GOVERNMENT SPONSORED cheating program is so fking sad and just literally pathetic!! they want their athletes to succeed so that the russian people will feel even more national pride and then the russian government will be able to turn around and use what essentially are their government employees (bc sports are state sponsored) to distract the russian people and use the athletes as propaganda-ITS BREAD AND CIRCUS YALL.
so so sorry for the rambling, no one read this but i needed to get it off my chest😮💨
You are right
I completely agree
You are completely right ans I bet nothing happens from the korean enquiry 😢
It's the same kind of situation as giving out a quiz and having students buy answer sheets instead of study, sadly. Results oriented combined with lack of accountability so it's only distractions when caught. If only we could have had a Kamila doping case during Adelina's era instead of now.
yeah, their other sport athletes are on it too, not just skating
Sotnikova really felt like the world was already forgetting she existed and she came back with a BANGER 😂😂😂. I hope they investigate and finally give Yuna her always deserved 🥇, and upgrade Carolina to 🥈 and Gracie to 🥉. It actually makes sense to me now WHY they didn't allow her to participate in the Team event in 2014 and gave Yulia double duty, they were afraid that the B sample might've been positive too and their 🥇 taken away, after all it didn't matter if her or Yulia did the FP, they would've won no matter what.
It's not like Yulia was not doped as well. I highly suspected that she was too because we all know how Eteri method is.
Adelina didn't get team event duty because she was less talented than yulia. Yes even both were doped, inherent talents still played big roles to the final product we got.
@@yohanes2034 You might be right, at this point I'm willing to believe anything, no wonder why Yulia was so physically destroyed before she retired, just think about being starved, put in a powder diet and possible doping substances in her body, I hate Eteri so much.
Yulia competing twice made sense already. She was 15, cute, had had inflated scores all season, was popular with both Russian and non-Russian crowds and was great propaganda for the Kremlin
Ты правда дурак?
considering how awfully eteri treated evgenia, I dread to think how she treats her own daughter
@lovesickwave1407no, she put her in ice dancing bc she was getting too tall and wasn’t very good at singles lol
She cared enough about her daughter to pull strings with the fed support to send her daughter to the games.
Excited about Zhenya's documentary! I think Adelina saw it as responding with support for Kamila's case but unfortunately the culture around doping in Russia makes a lot of things seem normal to say that are actually suspicious in other places...
She competed fraudulently on all levels tho- she doped as evidenced by the sample tampering, and was involved in corrupt judging which was clear when she hugged a judge.
Tho with the latter it was already clear with the protocols. The judges clearly could’ve been strict if they wanted- look how they treated Mao Asada whose jump and edge problems aren’t even as bad as Sotnikova, who has much better PCS.
Give Yuna her gold.
Doping or no doping, Queen Yu Na was a better skater and deserved to win.
By the way she made open letter explaining the thing about doping:
"The media has already attributed to me that I confessed to the use of illegal drugs. Guys, you can't do that! The phrase "they found doping in my blood." There are many options at the heart of the meaning of the phrase: from a confirmed dirty sample to a sampling error and a damaged test tube, a violation by the doping officer of the sampling protocol, transportation and storage of samples
One thought rushes through my head - where is it from? what dope? And panic: “Aaah, I have doping???!!!”. This block remains for a long time. And when we talk about it, and in passing, we say so: “They told me that they found doping in my blood.” But it turned out to be a problem with the test tube, a scratch ..."
lmao what a stupid excuse from her
@@aeriseong1270 what she told is what happened according to IOC, but yeah her excuse is still stupid.
The only scratch would be from the B sample being secretly swapped with a clean one in the lab
'A scratch in the test tube' wouldn't result in a false positive doping test 😂
@@annie5741 B sample wasn't even open, first sample had scratches
I hope the IOC responds to the KSOC request for an investigation. Yuna deserves justice! And, Koster should be elevated as well. 2023 is totally baffling me. Maybe this will be resolved faster than whatever the hell is going on with the 2022 Team Gold!
It's so cool and fun that the russian skating fed enables this behavior in young athletes and then lets them and their image take the fall, never actually having to change the practices
When you have a stable of kids to chew up and spit out, why would you ever need to *care* about them a few years later? /S
Right?
This should be the moment where the IOC shuts down the ISU and replaces it from the ground up. Its all just theatrics because Russia still practically owns the IOC but needs to be given the sport's death penalty but nobody has the guts to do it.
I could be completely off base here, but I feel like if one is doing it, a bunch of others are too. If we think of how many times Kamila didn't test positive, then it's possible people are doing it their whole careers and never getting caught
Exactly, and how many other skaters from the same training camp are doing the same but didn’t get caught. Every result where this coach and doctor are the trainers should be invalidated.
I just assume all Tutberidze skaters are doping, that’s also why they are so obsessed with the skaters weight
Kamila got positive once with a dose so tiny that it’s not consistent with regular use of doping. Other Eteri’s athletes NEVER tested positive at all and they have been tested for years during all major competitions. Yet people here just “assume “ everyone is doping for sure. Bloggers must be doing pretty good job brainwashing you guys😂
Polina Edmunds said on The Skating Lesson that she was at a competition with the Russians and they were basically discussing what their doctors had given them in the changeroom
@@annawalsh1904 And also why they can't drink water at competitions (because it means they can't produce a urine sample)
Goddammit, times like this I wish koola king was still making videos...
Team eteri probably put a hit out on her. Sports mean EVERYTHING to the Russians and they'll do anything to gaslight people into believing that they aren't cheating.
I cannot believe she was arrogant and stupid enough to talk about this scandal publicly
I think Sotnikova was trying to display the Russian girls as the victim: she's sing the positive test and Kamila example to say that the International community have some sort of agenda against Russian athletes and is using it to put them in a better light.
Or she feels legitamatly innocent. A trainer could give them 'vitamin pills,' and they may never find out.
In DDR-Germany, which was run by Russia, there was a chase of a young girl in rowing not wanting to dope anymore (because of negative health effects). Her trainer said concerned: "Then stop taking them, but promise me to eat a bar of chocolate every day instead, to prevent weight loss." The chocolate, that she ate dutifully for years, was laced with doping and ruined her health.
@@halfbloodprincess989nah. These Russian girls probably know more than we think.
TBH I don't miss the Russians in competitions at all. Even with talented skaters it wasn't and still isn't worth the drama! Will Yuna eventually get her deserved gold medal? I doubt it.
Same! And I don't think they were (beside jumps) that talented, especially without doping. Their programs haven't been that interesting and they are so young and unexperienced that I haven't seen any good performances from them :(
Come on, you are just happy the entire female and pairs podium is free to be taken by weaker athletes who otherwise wouldn’t stand a chance. No one even comes close nowadays to Kami’s “storm” or Kostornaya’s “angel”. Loads of people miss Trusova and her passion for figure skating. But you are free to pretend otherwise.
@@elenamastiukova2787 1) I don't even watch pairs 2) those girls were really talented, could've had a long and great career, but under Eteri all those bright stars are burnt to ashes, after max. 18 years old they're gone and can't compete and/or their story revolves around whatever scandal or drama. 🙄
@@heyheyvicky1498 1) I was referring to both comments in this section
2)journalists make up drama about Eteri’s girl, after all it’s what’s getting all the attention. Paola here is hyping on Tutberidze team victimizing girls and savoring it, while the audience laps it up😂😂
In reality former Eteri’s students are doing great after stopping their career. Lipnitskaya started her school, had a baby and skates in Pluschenko’s shows. Both Zagitova and Medvedeva work on TV and have lots of contracts, they skate in shows and make a lot of money. They also study, travel and enjoy their popularity. Medvedeva said recently she’s got “good human relationship with Tutberidze “. Trusova and Scherbakova haven’t finished their careers yet but if they do next season, chances are it’s because of the ban not because of “evil coach”. However, Anna said in an interview this month she is wishing to compete again.
Kostornaya switched to pairs as everyone knows, so she’s not done yet and she’s in her 20-s. Kamila wants to keep skating (unless she’s banned, who knows?) She’s a huge star in Russia, she’s loved and respected and can skate for as long as she wants and she’ll be the star of any show. You see , drama and negativity is for the world to enjoy and the bloggers to hype on.
@@elenamastiukova2787But what about Medvedeva being unable to rotate her back in a particular direction due to injuring herself so badly when she was an Eteri skater? I don’t know if becoming a celebrity makes up for living in constant pain. If she’s hurting this much and she’s not even 30, it’s going to become agonizing in her later years, and no amount of fame or money can heal that pain.
this feels very much like a spur if the moment, pick me moment on Adelina’s part and it’s kinda hilarious how it backfired 😂 girlie was NOT thinking of the consequences
Nah, it goes back to '98 when Michelle didn't win. I'm still upset about that one.
Yes! Also the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics where 🇨🇦 Sale & Pelletier were initially robbed of their gold medals and were robbed of their golden Olympic moment.
@@mienafriggstad3360you mean when they fell in the end of the short program but it was somehow overlooked by the judges?
Imagine taking doping and still performing worse than Yuna Kim and Karolina Kostner...
She also skates worse than Asada and Gold that night too.
Because she was never a top medal contender to begin with. A 9th place finisher at the 2013 world's and last place finisher at the 2013 GPF.. in what world does she deserve a near world record score at the olympics? There's already a difference between a gold and bronze medalist in skill, let alone the huge gap from 1st and a top 10 skater..
quite often it's the athletes that have no chance. Sesil Karantancheva got done for doping in tennis and she was the world number 60 or something. At the London Olympics one of the female artistic gymnasts from Uzbekistan tested positive when she had zero chance of winning
The photo of Adelina with Kamila in the article 💀 not subtle at ALL
I came to this channel for figure skating, but I stay for Paolas charm
What gets me is that Adelina put her foot in her mouth in such a spectacular way and so unprompted, it seems like some fever dream. It sounds like something the depths of Twitter would birth, but no it was her, only her. Like the KSU is again pushing for an investigation and Yuna Kim has now even more supporters to get her deserved medal. I think no one had it on their Bingo card, but here we are.
Also some comments I have read about the physical state of Medvedevas body are horrifying.
You know, sometimes, because the only sport I follow is figure skating, sometimes I wonder if other sports also have mess like this? And I'm not talking about huge mainstream sports like basketball and football, I mean other sports that are somewhat niche. Do curling fans also have regular doping scandals? Do rhythmic gymnastics fans have fandom wars and rigged wins? Does swimming have block voting scandals? Is figure skating okay?
Rhythmic gymnastics was heavily dominated by Russia until the last Olympics (where they won silver in the individual final and in the group final) and boy, did it get bloody quick...
swimming has scandals. mainly abuse, doping and dirty money scandals
Most normal sports played by adults are like figure skating but take out Russia.
It still has controversies, but it’s not a non-stop flaming disaster that figure skating has become. Without Russia I think everything should be bit closer to normal.
There is a huge amount of drama in rhythmic gymnastics surrounding Linoy Ashram of Israel getting the gold medal over one of two Russian twins.
Half pipe and rhythmic gymnastics
😡Let's push for Yuna to finally get her medal everyone...
is there any hope after this that yuna kim will get the gold medal she deserves?
Ideally, the ioc should reopen this case and investigate the A and B samples since it's still within the 10 year time frame. Will it really happen? The IOC seems to consider the case closed based on the B sample. Don't forget that she was cleared by rodchenkov which actually makes zero sense to me. It's more likely her samples were swapped but why did he say he didn't swap hers? Odd. But what if it was kamila's doctor who participated in that since he was the team doctor for the skaters? Anyway, I doubt anything would result from this but if they were to reinvestigate the samples, we would probably find out that she doped for real. In the end, karma is real and even if she isn't stripped of the medal, she'll forever remain a pariah in the sport.
Justice for the true Winners of Sochi 2014, Yu Na Kim (GOLD), Carolina Kostner (SILVER), Gracie Gold (BRONZE)
Paola !! We need to have a live stream from you watching the Medvedvea documentary when it’s available 😱🔥🙏🏻
i would love that!
The film about Zhenya will be released on November 23 in Russian cinemas. I hope that it can be seen on other resources
JUSTICE FOR YUNA KIM
Get yuna her gold medal!!!
even after doping everyone agrees yuna deserved to win regardless lmfaooo
After ten years, this drama still hurts so bad. Yuna should had been the winner, period.
I am worried about Adelina Sotnikova's safety, with the "Mysterious Deaths" of anybody who is in disagreement with Russian Leadership/Putin, I hope nothing happens....On my opinion of the Sochi Olympics, If I had a magic wand, I would have given the medals like this.
First with Double Gold Medals, Kim Yuna, and Carolina Kostner
Second, Adelina Sotnikova
Third, Mao Asada
Why Yuna and Kostner with gold? Because I think they both skated Gold Medal short and long programs.
Why Sotnikova with silver? Because I think she skated good enough to get on the medal stand, In this case I give her silver because Yuna and Kostner skated so brilliantly.
Why Asada with bronze? Because she skated such a brilliant Long Program and I want to acknowledge how well she did.
Anyway Thank You Paola La for your great channel!!!!
Yuna would have beaten Carolina technically She was already ahead in the short. Mao fell twice in the short so she wasn't going anywhere near the podium. I would have had her ahead of Julia though but I would have had Ashley ahead of both of them. Third was a coin toss between Adelina and Gracie.
you should watch the icarus documentary... talks about exactly how the A samples for russia are positive but the B samples were swapped so they come back fine
6:26 Evgenia ❤😢
Gracie IS the bronze medalist!!!
Nah should be Mao Asada. She deserved over 150 points in her FS, more than enough to secure a bronze medal.
theres a documentary about margarita mamun - russian 2016 olympic champion in rhythmic gymnastics. i am sure they didnt air a lot of the ugliness but it does show you how the head coach(who is also the head of the federation) irina viner was insulting her like her life depended on it ruclips.net/video/IEVM6C6Ks_s/видео.html yeah man, this woman agreed to act like this on camera, she doesnt see a problem to be seen like this, she is proud of it
Margarita herself says she’s grateful to her coaches that they pushed her to gold medal and the film didn’t include the good things about her training process.
Anyway, Mamun is a mom now, she works on tv and enjoys her success. There’s no need to victimize her.
Viner is a bukhary jew, what else did you expect. Call of blood. For centuries, her ancestors sent caravans of stolen tatar children to Istanbul bazaars.
i read the title and actually yelled.
I’m stressing for the Ice adolescence movie bc ain’t no fucking way mappa would release it now even if they get it ready some day 💀
Yuna deserved the Gold regardless of the doping situation 🤣🤣🤣
It baffles me that nothing has been done after Adelina admitted this, an investigation should've been launched right away and she should've been stripped. Kamila's investigation should've also been long finished by now and the team should've been stripped of the gold medal. It didn't matter that she was 15, the moral of the story was that she doped/was doped. No one else would've gotten away with those statements/test results, but because they're Russian they're able to sweep it under the rug or significantly delay the investigation results
I know that many people today think that Yuna's routine was not enough compared to today's quadruple jumps and complex movements, but if we analyze it, Yuna is one of the few skaters who performed a jump at an impeccable level of amesatria, enough to write a book about them, how she connects everything with the music and her god level of interpretation, it's magic what she does...
This is soooo much of topic, but did you hear that Yuzuru is getting married? I'm super happy for him!!😍💕💕
It's the documentary released ?
From what I know, the "admission" is a mistranslation. She was discussing her doping test, and how her B sample was looked at with suspicion due to weird scratches on it that could suggest tampering. I don't believe she said the A test was positive, that is the mistranslated part.
She did say that the A sample was positive. That's why she followed it up with "there was going to be a trial and everything". But all that fell to the wayside after the B sample was conveniently found to be clean.
I might be late but what is the Japanese documentary called and where can I find it?
here's a link vk.com/public168947878?w=wall-168947878_2
Why is it if one sample is negative they overlook the one that is positive? Makes no sense.
Ikr. Then they should make her take a 3rd sample to check for certain. But it was in Russia so it wouldn't have mattered. She was safe.
I love Yuna's face in the thumbnail. That look is amusing. My girl knows that should be her medal.
Adelina just loves digging her own grave and laying in it
I love that you’re showing that weird gala routine
do you know where we can watch the documentary when it comes out in the UK?
She didn’t admit to doping. She said that WADA allegedly found a positive test from her but it was later confirmed to be negative.
I am from Russia, but I think that Adelina undeservedly received her gold medal
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Let's be honest, women's figure skating is the most popular sport in the Winter Olympics. There's no way in hell Russia didn't dope their skaters to win the crown jewel when the world's eyes were on them.
Adelina didn't admit anything lmao. Sample A wasn't positive, it was scratched, thats why they opened sample B and it was negative too
At least they’re banned from the olympics now. Right?! They should be by now
Not quite
@@Richardsonprincess00 even with the war and everything?
@@silkentertainment6749 The Russian Olympic Committee finally got banned by the IOC in Oct 2023 for blatantly trying to claim athletes from parts of occupied Ukraine as their own. But individual Russian athletes will STILL be allowed to compete at the Olympics as “neutral athletes” with no flag or anthem.
I think it's kinda distasteful that despite all that she keeps posting her Olympics pictures. Like no remorse whatsoever
Adelina didn’t say that
so can we give that gold to Yuna kim now? everyone and their mother know she's the true winner and she deserved it 🤷♀
Lol I like to believe she took a page out of my book and left for lunch and never went back.
Lol imagine doping just to delliver the most mid preformence
I'm just an ordinary fan, and from the start I knew that Yuna deserved the gold medal.
I am in my college bus right now and this video and comments are killing me 😂😂😂😂
the russians have been real quiet since this dropped
YUNA SHOULD HAVE HAD THE GOLD! 🌟🌹🥇🌹🌟
IT WAS A FIX THAT THE RUSSIAN GIRL WON! 😡
“i have a feeling that B sample came through a hole in the wall.” TRUUUUUEEEE
Yuna kim should have won in 2014 it was the russian judge and referee pushed the russian into place!!!!
Never was as jealous of Italian commentator in my life, they were the screaming tube of justice that night
Thanks Paola
Both Russia and the IOC are the villains in this story of this nightmare, disgusting for this mess!
It's still nuts to me that these people are drugging children and they're still working in the industry.........
Haven't they been doing this since the soviet union days? East Germany also did the same.
ALENA GOT MARRIED
And of course IOC will do nothing about this.
get my girl yuna justice fr 😘
Guys, Ilia and Junwhan Cha in a duet. This feels really important and I need ANSWERS
ruclips.net/video/sR6jO1oRNdg/видео.html
They already said that there was no doping. There was a scratch on the sample, but no doping. But why would Adelina say that is a big question
Probably because she did actually dope but they swapped the samples just in time to prevent a trial.
@@triplea_qgb1963 we don’t know that. If you don’t have proof, don’t spread nonsense
@@vasilisashakurova743Sotnikova ‘s gold medal is a NONSENSE
@@cantilever8574 maybe she shouldn’t have won the Olympics but it doesn’t mean that she had doping. There’s no evidence
@@vasilisashakurova743 Watch her recent interview getting positive in A Sample and getting negative in B Sample is literally impossible
Sotnikova wanted to have that spotlight at all cost and Yuna fans got triggered. LOL
I’m so tired of people saying that kamila is overscored just bc she has a full blade assist on her flip and lutz like that is NOT what defines being one of the best skaters. She has a lot more in her Bolero and In memoriam programs than most skaters. In fact, most skaters are unable to have that many transitions and that level of flexibility combined with strength. speed, height, distance, extension, strength, flexibility, interpretation… you guys turn a blind eye to other components of figure skating other than jumps.
Lutz and Flip are the hardest and highest scoring jumps in this sport apart from Axel. It is an indisputable fact that the elements you have listed are also important elements. But Kamila competes in women's single discipline, not ice dance discipline, so the most important element in her discipline is jumps. That's why it bothers people that the Lutz and Flip jumps of Kamila, in which she uses the wrong technique, get higher scores than the skaters who execute these jumps with the textbook technique. People just want to watch fair competition.
She is overscored. She skates slowly, the transitions are to hide it. She also skates on flat edges. All Eteri girls also nearly come to a stop when they jump (masked by transitions), use the momentum of their arms instead of the strength in their legs to get into the air and then land with a thud before taking time to skate away. She also has this lost mouse facial expression the whole time, which is not that artistic. Jumps are the highest scoring element and they're giving high GOE scores to someone who essentially is not only jumping with her training wheels, but can't even ride the bike correctly anyway.
If the athlete has a clean B sample in means A sample could actually be clean. It literally works like false positive any medical test
Nope. In a test like that you can easily test the A-Sample again, which is what they probably did. We'd have heard about it, had it been false-positive. The Russians would've been talking about that.
The B-sample being clean was because it was exshanged with a clean sample during the great Sotschi doping scandal. Nothing else.
The documentary icarus literally said thats how they doped right? Was changing the B sample so they would ignore it.
Everyone knows who deserved to win in Sochi. Just the truth.
So....gold medal revision when
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When will be the next Olympics? 2024?
Yuna🩵👑✨🪽
No girl, your doping results aren’t the reason why you shouldn’t get gold. You really didn’t skate as well as Kim Yuna.
4:45 what the fuck is that diabolical step 😅
i fell off my chair omg
8:49 bahaha who did that
Will the IOC rescind her Gold Medal and give it back to the rightful owner Yunw Kim?
Russian at it again, making ice skating more thicker by the twist and turn.