Max Tegmark - Physics of Information

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • Information has become increasingly important in understanding the physical world around us, from ordinary computers to the underlying principles of fundamental physics, including quantum theory. How can information help discern physics? What can physics contribute to understanding information? And what about quantum information?
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    Max Tegmark is Professor of Physics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He holds a BS in Physics and a BA in Economics from the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden. He also earned a MA and PhD in physics from University of California, Berkeley.
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Комментарии • 135

  • @moses777exodus
    @moses777exodus Год назад +5

    4:40 "like energy". Energy Is Information.

  • @jacobchateau6191
    @jacobchateau6191 Год назад +3

    It's such a beautiful honor to watch these conversations right after they happen. Love you all. Thanks.

  • @jacobchateau6191
    @jacobchateau6191 Год назад +3

    Noticing the recent conversations are filled with a profound and resonant sense of true awe.

  • @BC-hz4ut
    @BC-hz4ut Год назад +3

    The most fundamental existential Mechanism in the universe is “Exploration of degrees of freedom”.
    Information describes the kinetic and potential of this exploration. The most effective structure for this exploration is when there is a processing unit,a storage unit and a mechanical unit for the information.
    This triune structure can be seen from human beings with a conscious(processing unit) ,subconscious/genetics(storage unit) and body(mechanical unit) to a black hole with a holographic surface (mechanical unit),bulk(processing unit), singularity(storage unit).

  • @tflashtube
    @tflashtube Год назад +6

    Thank you so much for this amazing series, this fascinating quest.

  • @jamenta2
    @jamenta2 Год назад +7

    Need more information on information.

    • @CreationTribe
      @CreationTribe Год назад +1

      Information recursion ... I like it: Information on information on information on information on information on information on information on ...

  • @tuneboyz5634
    @tuneboyz5634 Год назад +7

    Currently reading his book "Our Mathematical Universe"
    Highly recommended

  • @mechannel7046
    @mechannel7046 Год назад +2

    One of the most mind-blowing 4 minutes 57 second videos ever! Maybe consciousness is truly fundamental. Thank you for posing the question to Tegmark

    • @vannalikehannah6776
      @vannalikehannah6776 Год назад +1

      MeChannel
      Check out Lex Friedman
      Podcast from today about
      Consciousness is fundamental. You will enjoy. 😊

    • @mechannel7046
      @mechannel7046 Год назад

      @@vannalikehannah6776 Will do. Thank you for letting me know!

    • @tannhausa5411
      @tannhausa5411 Год назад +2

      tom campbell - my big toe
      enjoy exploring the new paradigm shift :)

  • @felipedepalma3090
    @felipedepalma3090 Год назад +13

    Don't you find Robert ressembles more and more to Einstein? Mustache, glasses, haircut... Maybe it's me, because this channel is about physics.😂😂

    • @tomatoplantsgonewild1470
      @tomatoplantsgonewild1470 Год назад +2

      I was going to say that his goal to look like Einstein is coming along nicely.

    • @kipponi
      @kipponi Год назад +1

      It is true and then he is closer to truth.

    • @reaganmcguire3463
      @reaganmcguire3463 Год назад

      It's you.....

    • @david.thomas.108
      @david.thomas.108 Год назад

      Thought that when I first saw him, lol

    • @benzcruiser1602
      @benzcruiser1602 Год назад

      Don’t! I can’t stop looking and thinking this now 🤣🫢 yep it’s there

  • @rabidL3M0NS
    @rabidL3M0NS Год назад +2

    Information is literally just energy/form in formation… Form is all there is ☯️〰️〰️〰️101010

  • @petergreen5337
    @petergreen5337 Год назад +1

    Thank you very much publisher. Very helpful and interesting.

  • @tannhausa5411
    @tannhausa5411 Год назад +1

    TOM CAMPBELL - MY BIG TOE
    the next paradigm shift ❤

  • @natesgarage
    @natesgarage 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @nothinginteresting1662
    @nothinginteresting1662 3 месяца назад

    Information = in-formation
    Since it is in formation, it comes before the form is complete. All matter has a form. So information comes before matter.
    What if...
    Information = Energy patterns?
    A field is a physical quantity that changes throughout spacetime.
    What if information is the device that encodes the change patterns of the energy field?

  • @kylebowles9820
    @kylebowles9820 Год назад +1

    Damn this one needs to be much longer!

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Год назад +4

    What is meant by information? Is information physical or other substance?

    • @caricue
      @caricue Год назад

      They seem to be saying that matter is information in the sense that it can be understood with information theory. I'm sure many of them think that it is some kind of physical information, but they are just projecting. Information is only created and used by a mind, so nothing in nature contains information, not even DNA.

    • @simonhibbs887
      @simonhibbs887 Год назад

      Information is a way of quantifying the number of states a system can be in. So a binary digit stored in a computer could be in one of two states, so a fundamental particle might have several states it could be in. The physical processes that act on a system transform it's state, and so also change the information it represents, and it turns out that all of quantum mechanics can be re-phrased purely in terms of changing information states. I hope that helps.

    • @caricue
      @caricue Год назад +1

      @@simonhibbs887 That's what I meant to say, but I never cared enough to listen closely and learn the terms. I really wish they had coined a new word for this kind of "information" in order to avoid confusing laymen and some scientists who will go around insisting that mindless particles are "made of information" when they certainly aren't.

    • @simonhibbs887
      @simonhibbs887 Год назад

      @@caricue I honestly don't know how seriously to take the question of whether information is fundamental. On the one hand it's a fascinating way to think about physics and the world and interesting insights are coming out from it. On the other hand information is essentially just a description, so really all were saying is that the state of particles and systems can be consistently considered in terms of irreducible descriptions. I mean, that really shouldn't be surprising right?

    • @caricue
      @caricue Год назад +1

      @@simonhibbs887 I think we are agreeing on this point but using different verbiage. As long as everyone understands that we are projecting "information" onto nature, there isn't a problem, but many people do talk as if there really is information out there somewhere. It's the same with math in nature. Some people, even scientists, will see a cow wander into the pasture where two cows are already present, and say that math happened, but nature has no mind, so no math or information can happen, even if someone insists that they have seen it.

  • @robertmarino4231
    @robertmarino4231 Месяц назад

    Information is nothing more than perceptions of various aspects of reality - what these aspects are CONVEYING - and what each of us as individuals are capable of understanding. For example, space and time to a physicist A might convey one thing, but to physicist B quite another.

  • @Jonnygurudesigns
    @Jonnygurudesigns Год назад +2

    He's so enjoyable to listen too

  • @samghising2170
    @samghising2170 2 месяца назад

    All these talk is wonderfull, but it would be very wonderfull if one could start what your really mean by information! then it would really be engrossing

  • @Arcadianx98
    @Arcadianx98 Год назад +2

    Does anyone know why these are free on RUclips? How can I watch the full length episodes on streaming somewhere?

    • @WildMessages
      @WildMessages Год назад

      I believe there is a website? There are so many episodes

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Месяц назад

    after measurement, mathematics from quantum mechanics transforms into classic information described by language?

  • @muskduh
    @muskduh 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the review.

  • @walterfristoe4643
    @walterfristoe4643 Год назад +6

    I was blown away when I found out that information actually has mass! 😵‍💫

    • @francesco5581
      @francesco5581 Год назад +1

      ...i doubt that ...

    • @caricue
      @caricue Год назад +1

      There was an early investigator who insisted that at the moment of death the body got slightly lighter as the soul departed. He had data and everything. Of course, it was nonsense. Where's your data?

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Год назад

      *"I was blown away when I found out that information actually has mass!"*
      ... No mass, but there is a specific unit of energy attached to a single "bit" of nondimensional information. That miniscule amount of energy allows for mathematical calculations which actually increase the amount of available energy. A simple equation such as (1 + 1 = ?) doubles the amount of available information energy. This is how information propagated into multidimensionality (i.e., the universe). When nondimensional information energy is forced into dimensionality, you end up with quarks, electrons, and gluons.
      This also does not violate the 2nd Law of thermodynamics because the 0-dimenion is not a closed system.

    • @dohpam1ne
      @dohpam1ne Год назад +1

      It's more that mass has information.

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Год назад +1

      @@dohpam1ne *"It's more that mass has information."*
      ... Mass is a property of dimensionality. You have to have 3 dimensions before you can have mass. ... Information, however, is dimensionless.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Месяц назад

    in the quantum wave function, mathematics might transfer information from linear time to probabilistic energy?

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Месяц назад

    energy is quantum wave that can be measured by classic mechanics?

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Месяц назад

    maybe mathematics outline information in quantum mechanics, similar to classic mechanics information being described by language?

  • @terrycallow2979
    @terrycallow2979 Год назад +1

    Richard I commented on CTT and asked what you think of Tom Campbell and his book "My Big Toe" Do you think he is correct in his views on consciousness?

  • @BigJohn6060
    @BigJohn6060 Год назад +1

    more fundamentally - what do they mean by information in this context?

    • @dragossorin85
      @dragossorin85 Год назад

      In a simplified version, information might be the instructions for every process happening at a quantum level leading to the existence of mater and the whole universe with all its exotic processes happening

    • @gettaasteroid4650
      @gettaasteroid4650 Год назад

      I think there's enough argument there to presume Vakarelov pre-cognitive semantic information: there's the interface theory of meaning, "how can information-using systems exist and what makes them such"
      But there are consistent circular proofs so it's not clear that information has some natural value

  • @moses777exodus
    @moses777exodus Год назад

    4:00 Some may argue that quantum entanglement could show that Information Can travel faster than light. Information is non-material/immaterial and mass-less.

    • @MRnormi98
      @MRnormi98 Год назад

      No physicist would argue that. There is no theoretical possibility nor observation of such fact.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Год назад

    How does information come up in general relativity?

  • @simonhibbs887
    @simonhibbs887 Год назад

    This goes to the heart of the disagreement I have with panpsychists that think consciousness is everywhere and everything is conscious. If consciousness is a form of information processing, it doesn't follow that all information processing is a form of consciousness, any more than a horse being a form of animal means all animals are horses. Nevertheless they're on the right track because information is everywhere and all physical processes are information processes, or even computational processes in some sense.

  • @wayneasiam65
    @wayneasiam65 Год назад

    Love this channel Closer to Truth. Perhaps Information is like Mind and is Stored Dimensionally. A Quantum Sleeve like Russian Dolls.

  • @yayayaokoksure
    @yayayaokoksure 6 месяцев назад

    Information is a human construct

  • @michaelward878
    @michaelward878 11 месяцев назад

    What's the matter you don't have enough information on information to make a longer video.

  • @womagrid
    @womagrid Год назад

    You might be interested in the work of the Information Physics Institute

  • @maxwellsimoes238
    @maxwellsimoes238 Год назад

    Guys abstract phisch though information is narrow mind. Fundamental phisch level are links experience before any level it show up informations. Lack honestly phich standard.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Месяц назад

    the answer my friend, is blowing in the wind?

  • @USUG0
    @USUG0 Год назад

    "information" sounds just like a new fancy marketable synonym of energy flow

    • @tannhausa5411
      @tannhausa5411 Год назад

      energy is just a metaphor for information in process

  • @kevinbeaty8344
    @kevinbeaty8344 Год назад

    Key takeaway: the answer will involve information

  • @jurisbogdanovs1
    @jurisbogdanovs1 Год назад +1

    Funny enough, neither these guys nor anyone else is able to give a definition of WHAT IS INFORMATION...

  • @avi8r66
    @avi8r66 Год назад

    This is like saying a hammer conveys information about motion to a nail when it is used to bash a nail into a board. Sure, you can describe it this way, sort of, but you have to push word usage to it's limits. And doing so allows you to conflate data with gravity, for example, which confuses the discussion and opens a door for a gap for a god to fill.

  • @Robinson8491
    @Robinson8491 Год назад

    Still think we are not getting past energy. But I'm not a physicist

  • @petrandreev2418
    @petrandreev2418 Год назад

    Did I understand correctly that we are talking about overcoming the speed of light? Through quantum entanglement? In principle, we move faster than the speed of Light in the Universe, and we are also information). But is it true that through quantum entanglement humanity can theoretically teleport one bit of information to any distance instantly? It looks like this, but is it?

  • @matterasmachine
    @matterasmachine Год назад

    Physics is information. Statistics.

  • @S3RAVA3LM
    @S3RAVA3LM Год назад +2

    Information isn't something by itself, it's from a relative pov of subject - object relationship.
    Illumination isn't something by itself, it is the light. What we collect as information would be the majesty of God -- Knowledge.
    Somebody in the comments mentioned information of information, which doesn't really work. We are being 'informed' of a Ultimate Knowledge. Knowledge is what informs. Information doesnt inform Knowledge. Nor does illumination brighten the Light.

  • @willnzsurf
    @willnzsurf Год назад

    🌴😎💯

  • @goranjohansson2495
    @goranjohansson2495 Год назад +1

    He doesn't seem to grasp that information is just patterns in physical stuff.

  • @yourlogicalnightmare1014
    @yourlogicalnightmare1014 Год назад

    Why is Luke Skywalker being interviewed?

  • @AS-zc8mr
    @AS-zc8mr Год назад

    information cant move faster than light.

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Год назад

      *"information cant move faster than light."*
      ... The expansion of the universe moves faster than light. Expansion = information.

  • @vishalpanday9607
    @vishalpanday9607 Год назад

    Why don't they invite right persons for the conference!!!!

  • @dadsonworldwide3238
    @dadsonworldwide3238 Год назад

    Need to stop calling the spirit & soul command center the word for being awake , aware and alert.
    Get passed this naive goofyness trying to rename it as consciousness. When I'm in a coma , asleep of dead I'm not consciously alert aware or awake but I am still in command or of my spirit soul command center.

  • @leonoradompor8706
    @leonoradompor8706 Год назад +14

    God is a physicist, the main scientist. The physics of information is the goal to make the world a ripple of giving love, charity,peace,to make the world a better place to live in and not use the physics of information for greed and selfishness.There are evil greedy people use informations for lust of money, power but in the end they still feel empty, hungry,meaningless life, and lonely life, shallow life even with much trillions of money and vast power ***

    • @efabiano82
      @efabiano82 Год назад

      9 million children under the age of 5 die every year globally.

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 Год назад +2

      Probably.

    • @8xnnr
      @8xnnr Год назад +1

      No

    • @Cymatic-Mage
      @Cymatic-Mage Год назад

      Also, without the Golden Light, their desire to do good is still muddy in their attempts. Their creations come out lacking in that Golden vibration. It's not their fault. It isnt ours.

    • @tburns3611
      @tburns3611 Месяц назад

      There are probably other topics in physics that would connect better with the point you are trying to make. I’m not sure you understand exactly what information is in the is context. It’s not really a source of power of any sort. It’s more like a fundamental part of the universe that anything that can be taken or used. Your point would be better served on the topic of energy or something similar.

  • @JungleJargon
    @JungleJargon Год назад +2

    The distant galaxies are *not* expanding away from us. An infinitely expanding universe is utterly nonsensical. It’s the *distance* between us and distant galaxies that is expanded (not “expanding”) from the effect of general relativity from the lack of matter and mass between us and distant objects.
    Dark energy isn’t needed to explain the red shift because the lack of matter in outer space explains the expansion of distance between the enormous gravitational wells of very large masses of super massive black holes.
    Time also speeds up where there is less matter so there is no need for dark matter to explain the faster movement of the outer spiral arms of galaxies.
    The problem is that they are not taking into account simple general relativity. They aren’t considering the variable rate of time and the differing measures of distance due to the amount of matter in the vicinity.
    Einstein burned into peoples minds that the speed of light doesn’t change. The units of measurement to measure the speed of light do change over large distances and galaxies cover large distances. That means that the speed of light does change over large distances as observed by us.
    The speed of light doesn’t change. The rate of time changes and the measure of distance changes… *which effectively changes the speed of light as we observe it over great distances.*
    Time runs faster in outer space where there is no matter and much less gravity. This is the reason the outer spiral arms of the galaxies move much faster than expected. It’s because events take place at a faster rate the less mass and gravity there is.
    Distance is expanded in outer space (not expanding). Plasma jets do not stream out five times the speed of light since the distance is expanded away from gravity wells. If the distance within a galaxy affects the rate of time and the measure distance that much, *just think what happens to time and distance in deep outer space where there is no matter in our line of sight!* The distances between us and the galaxies that we see are extreme!
    Time doesn’t run at the same rate everywhere in the universe. Time runs faster in outer space. It just dawned on me the other day that a thousand years and a single day happen at the same time in different places throughout the universe. It's simple (observed) general relativity. Time slows down and distance is contracted because of gravity where there is massive amounts of matter. Conversely, time speeds up and distance is greatly expanded where there is no matter in vast expanses of outer space.
    This eliminates the need for dark matter since time is sped up in the outer spiral arms of a galaxy where there is not nearly as much matter. It eliminates the need for dark energy in outer space where distance is expanded where there is no matter.
    So the result of general relativity is that billions of years pass by in outer space (13 some billion years) at the same time as thousands of years pass by where we are inside of the Milky Way galaxy. ...!
    Billion of years and mere thousands of years are the same thing *at the same time* in deep outer space and where we are, according to physics and according to relativity.
    In review, time slows down where we are. Time speeds up with less gravity so the outer spiral arms of galaxies move faster. There is no need for dark matter.
    Distance increases where there is no matter in outer space. There is no need for dark energy to expand space since the expansion of space is from not having any matter far away from the galaxies.
    Deep time (billions of years) and thousands of years exist simultaneously in this universe where there is no single rate of time or measure of distance!
    Just think what could be the reality *when* the photons register with our eyes or our cameras/detectors and there is a collapse of the wave function as seen or detected by us within our dilated time and distance. (Our rate of time is not the universal rate of time, especially for photons.)
    Conclusion: The time it took for Creation and since Creation in the Bible is absolutely true! Time itself is a (real) fabrication.
    Only your Creator can perfectly cover for you Himself and remake you again from the inside out by the power of His true word as no one else ever can since all of your mistakes are on and against your Maker.

    • @kos-mos1127
      @kos-mos1127 Год назад +4

      General Relativity does not support creation. There is no universal clock ticking in the background because time is property of the Cosmos. The first moment of time that physics model was planck time or t^-43s before that Relativity predicts that the Cosmos would be a singularity which is a state of perfect symmetry and perfect equilibrium. The standard model along with General Relativity describes how the Cosmos evolved from the singularity to what we see today and that entire sequence of events is what is known as the Big Bang.
      Physics do not know where the singularity came from and if something came before that it would be part of the Cosmos. They do not know how long the singularity existed because time did not exist as we know it. Asking about the origin of the Cosmos is pointless. In physics when they talk about the Cosmos it is in the context of what they can observe. There is a lot of the Cosmos that is just unobservable.

    • @tomjackson7755
      @tomjackson7755 Год назад

      Jungle I see you are still just making up nonsense. SMH

    • @chmd22
      @chmd22 Год назад +1

      Nice theory, but where is the math?

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon Год назад +1

      @@kos-mos1127 The singularity is based on red shift which is misinterpreted. Red shift is from the expansion of distance in outer space where there is no matter.

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon Год назад

      @@chmd22 Show me the math for an infinitely expanding universe.

  • @michaelfried3123
    @michaelfried3123 Год назад +1

    This is more like the physics of philosophical BS.

    • @tannhausa5411
      @tannhausa5411 Год назад

      read tom campbell - my big toe if u really want to understand the topic

  • @KuyruksuzSatyr
    @KuyruksuzSatyr 9 месяцев назад

    Hey fellow comment reader friend! My spider senses say this is a cult - ish video. Somethings off with this channel. Be careful before going into a rabbit hole... Be sure to have friends from different communities and take care!

  • @Thee-_-Outlier
    @Thee-_-Outlier Год назад +1

    Can science please stop rebranding old ideas as new ones please??? These topics are well covered and easily studied thru finite and discrete mathematics. Everyone's looking to coin a phrase today. God, scientists are so smug, egotistical and self absorbed.
    Anyway, the only thing that actually exists is information and it can be expressed with mathematics. Not revolutionary

    • @francesco5581
      @francesco5581 Год назад +4

      expressed with something is very different than being something

    • @oldrusty6527
      @oldrusty6527 Год назад +4

      Wow talk about a smug comment.

    • @Thee-_-Outlier
      @Thee-_-Outlier Год назад

      @@oldrusty6527 tit for tat my friend.

    • @Thee-_-Outlier
      @Thee-_-Outlier Год назад

      @@francesco5581 perhaps different, but one is far superior. "Being something" is a label and labels are reductionist and counter productive. Demonstrative expression is more meaningful.

    • @francesco5581
      @francesco5581 Год назад

      @@Thee-_-Outlier its like to say that a musician is the music he plays ...he is not.