Thanks mate, been sparkying for 12 years, it’s nice to see someone with pride and care for their clients. Very informative video on the zappi, keep it up!
You are definitely one of the better RUclips spark channels I've come across. Check those CEF invoices though, especially on bigger jobs where things may "accidentally" slip onto the invoice that you never bought.
Another great video and installation. Love the "don't need a degree in media studies" comment !🤣 Your use of ferrules on cable ends speaks very well to your high attention to detail and professional approach 👍.
Enjoy your videos bud. I always take spares for that very situation hate having to go in and out the wholesalers I buy 100 rcbo’s at a time 20 of each size and 5 each board sizes and keep my own stock. 👍
Very good, only comment is the Zappi was installed way too low! Us older clients don't like bending down fiddling with screens! One thing you did not point out as it was not relevant to this install, but is missed constantly by some installers is that the Grid CT is set to CT1 from the factory and when this is in fact connected to the Harvi or another myenergi device leaving multiple grid CTs on a system renders them not working correctly.
Hi great video as always very informative thank you I appreciate the effort just a few things, why was the water bonded? did it enter back into the ground after the instal? as i was tought (and i know you didnt do this) never to bond like this as you are pottentially bringing in a danger especially with PME that does not need to be there what is your opinion on removing the bonding cable for the water if you can see that it has not enetered back into the ground? and secondly if you could show the ev test on the tester that would really help me anyway thx
Hi mate, great content as usual. Could I ask what you meant about battery storage hookup to Zappi? I understand about the AC/DC thing. If you were running from your battery backup, only solar would charge EV in the event of a power outage wouldn’t it? I’ve heard in the event of power outages even the solar drops out, so you only run purely on batts? Not sure if I’m explaining myself that well?! Any thoughts. (Having solar fitted and thinking of Tesla batts). Thanks. Paul.
Hi mate what I mean is basically on the app you can see where the solar is going to, the car, grid or battery, I wouldn’t charge a car off the battery it would just dump it in no time, ye you are correct, if you have a power cut then the battery will operate essential circuits only if you have this incorporated in your installation, otherwise nothing works basically, hope that made sense!
Regarding the ct, can you cut off the excess cable, if not why not? Can it be placed anywhere on the Phase incomer providing the arrow is pointing the correct way? Thanks
You can cut the excess off the CT but I don’t incase they move house, take the charger with them and the CT needs to be longer at the new address, I have moved a lot of chargers now from house to house and have had this problem before, personal preference, the CT must be after the meter and before and Henley block
Point to note... The miniature Fusebox RCBOs (and many other miniatures) do indeed disconnect the N as well as the L conductor, however it is only the L that is actually 'protected'. The N is merely switched. The 'tall' RCBOs do not switch the N. Also I believe that all/most EV chargers have PEN-fault protection built in, so the L-N-E/CPC are all disconnected together in case of any fault condition. Expert Electrical, who distribute the FuseBox brand (hand in the Manchester area as you can call in to their trade counter) also distribute EVEC EV chargers - budget end of the brands, but so far I've had no problems with them, and the APP works well.
Hey Adam, Watched a few of your videos now and what a fantastic job you do. Im a spark myself and have done the EV course and also done a few chargers. Please don't take this as i'm criticising but i have a question which i'm not fully understanding. Regs say that you cant run communication cables along side power cables. Now i have 2 things for this 1st of all how is EV Ultra cable compliant in the seance you run power and CAT5 cable in close and tight proximity. Secondly i didn't think you could make a CAT 5 connection inside of a consumer unit when its being used as a Internet connection. Im just wanting to know if i have missed something myself as i know Doncaster cable would not produce a cable that wasn't compliant and i have seen multiple sparks make connections in the consumer unit to CAT5 cables.
Hi mate so this is an older video now and my more recent ones you will see the connections on the outside of the consumer unit, with regards to the EV ultra I don’t know the science but if you get in touch with Doncaster’s they will help you, don’t forget the cable is shielded
@@sotaelectrical its a question I have had for a while…. I’m not questioning Doncaster it’s clear that they know what they are doing and it holds a BS number so most have been deemed fine by the powers at be. Either way love the Videos and find them really useful and entertaining so thank you
EV-Ultra® consists of power conductors and data cables that are rated to the same nominal voltage - therefore segregation of power and data is not required.
7:14 Just wanted some clarification for this bit. You say that it doesn't work well with DC battery systems, but there is no such thing as an AC battery system. The battery will always be DC, and the inverter will always convert it to AC, so any CT would go on the AC side of the inverter. Did you mean that with transformerless inverters, there is a DC offset from the inverter that will blind the CT, as with type AC RCD's? I'm guessing that's the case, and if so, it's always worth checking to see if it is a transformerless inverter, cause my Victron specifically states because of the isolation provided by the transformer, there is no DC on the AC side of the inverter. Thanks for the videos :).
Hi pal, just a quick question I had a client contact today asking about an existing submarine main supply to there garage. They have had an EV company round to survey for EV charger. They have been told that they do not need RCD protection? And also that the sun main is fine for 100amps 😂 unlikely. Now whenever I instal and EV charger I always supply via double pole type A rcbo regardless of the charger having and internal RCD. What is your opinion regs wise on omitting separate rcd and only relying on the RCD in EV charger. Thanks for the vids and info 👍👍
Hi mate, unless they have a three phase supply to the property it is extremely unlikely that they have a 100A capacity to the garage, they probably saw a 100A main switch in the consumer unit and assumed they have a 100A supply 🤣 I also never rely on the integral RCD and with the EV chargers the exception being the project EV, there is no way for the customer to test the RCD quarterly as they can with an RCBO. If that was my job I would recommend the zappi, you can install a CT on the meter tails with a Harvi if you can’t hardwire it for your load management and a secondary CT in the garage consumer unit set to ‘monitor’ and limit it accordingly
the advantage of using two pairs of the ethernet cable is if the client changes their internet supplier all they have to do is plug the ethernet into the new router no wifi to worry about.
Does anyone actually check WiFi strength where the Zappi is going to be installed? If you use a physical hub, you don't need to, but my battery inverters are right next to my Zappi in my garage and I had to install a WiFi booster to be able to talk to it remotely. Presumably if I'd been using the Vhub, I'd also have struggled.
Another thought: if the charger supply cable is clipped to the wall (i.e. not buried in walls) does it even need to be on an RCD? The charger has in-built RCD so is there a need to have RCD for the supply cable?
@@3pointedshr yes, if you read the installer instructions for the Zappi it clearly states that the RCD does not comply with the regs and a Type A RCD must be installed upstream
Just love your complete honesty. Your video is not only educational but entertaining as well. You can't say that about a lot of the stuff on RUclips.
Thank you 🙏
Thanks mate, been sparkying for 12 years, it’s nice to see someone with pride and care for their clients. Very informative video on the zappi, keep it up!
Thanks mate 👍👍
You are definitely one of the better RUclips spark channels I've come across. Check those CEF invoices though, especially on bigger jobs where things may "accidentally" slip onto the invoice that you never bought.
Thank you! Yes I know what you mean with the invoices
Another great video and installation. Love the "don't need a degree in media studies" comment !🤣
Your use of ferrules on cable ends speaks very well to your high attention to detail and professional approach 👍.
Hi Bob! 🤣 I’m enjoying learning about filming and just giving it a go! Thanks as always, your support is more than appreciated 👍
Thanks for the video, what a great install.!!
Thank you!! Your chargers are the best!!
Good video,
Don’t forget to update the firmware on the Zappi when you connect to t’internet!
Always do this! Thanks for watching sir 👍👍
Amazing work as always. Love watching your videos and learning from you 😁
Thank you sir 👍👍
Absolutely brilliant video
Thank you 👍
Enjoy your videos bud.
I always take spares for that very situation hate having to go in and out the wholesalers I buy 100 rcbo’s at a time 20 of each size and 5 each board sizes and keep my own stock. 👍
Thank you mate and i think il follow in your footsteps, great tip 👍
Ive got a zappi to do at the weekend and was wondering how easy it was do do the wifi set up, thanks for showing that!!
No probs! It’s a piece of cake 👍
Very good, only comment is the Zappi was installed way too low! Us older clients don't like bending down fiddling with screens!
One thing you did not point out as it was not relevant to this install, but is missed constantly by some installers is that the Grid CT is set to CT1 from the factory and when this is in fact connected to the Harvi or another myenergi device leaving multiple grid CTs on a system renders them not working correctly.
nice explanation but i did not see electrical testing at the end like zs etc which electricians do after installing ev charger or anything thanks
It’s not a testing video buddy
Great video very informative thank you
Thank you 👍
Ferrules everywhere!! 👍
Hi great video as always very informative thank you I appreciate the effort just a few things, why was the water bonded? did it enter back into the ground after the instal? as i was tought (and i know you didnt do this) never to bond like this as you are pottentially bringing in a danger especially with PME that does not need to be there what is your opinion on removing the bonding cable for the water if you can see that it has not enetered back into the ground? and secondly if you could show the ev test on the tester that would really help me anyway thx
So is 40A RCBO or 32A as in the Zappi manual needed :)? Cos i got hager AD932J
Great Video, Does the zappi have automatic disconnected on overvoltage and undervoltage?
Yes it does,
Nice neat job Adam 👍
Thank you 👍👍
Great work buddy can these units be ethernet hard wired maybe I missed that part?
Thank you and yes it can 👍
Great work👍
Thank you 👍👍
Hi mate, great content as usual. Could I ask what you meant about battery storage hookup to Zappi? I understand about the AC/DC thing. If you were running from your battery backup, only solar would charge EV in the event of a power outage wouldn’t it? I’ve heard in the event of power outages even the solar drops out, so you only run purely on batts? Not sure if I’m explaining myself that well?! Any thoughts. (Having solar fitted and thinking of Tesla batts). Thanks. Paul.
Hi mate what I mean is basically on the app you can see where the solar is going to, the car, grid or battery, I wouldn’t charge a car off the battery it would just dump it in no time, ye you are correct, if you have a power cut then the battery will operate essential circuits only if you have this incorporated in your installation, otherwise nothing works basically, hope that made sense!
Ginger nuts are undeniably the grand master of biscuits
Agree 💯 🎉
Interesting seeing an old school parallel cable in there.
You have an eagle eye my friend!! He don’t see that very much any more
Regarding the ct, can you cut off the excess cable, if not why not? Can it be placed anywhere on the Phase incomer providing the arrow is pointing the correct way?
Thanks
You can cut the excess off the CT but I don’t incase they move house, take the charger with them and the CT needs to be longer at the new address, I have moved a lot of chargers now from house to house and have had this problem before, personal preference, the CT must be after the meter and before and Henley block
Point to note...
The miniature Fusebox RCBOs (and many other miniatures) do indeed disconnect the N as well as the L conductor, however it is only the L that is actually 'protected'. The N is merely switched.
The 'tall' RCBOs do not switch the N.
Also I believe that all/most EV chargers have PEN-fault protection built in, so the L-N-E/CPC are all disconnected together in case of any fault condition.
Expert Electrical, who distribute the FuseBox brand (hand in the Manchester area as you can call in to their trade counter) also distribute EVEC EV chargers - budget end of the brands, but so far I've had no problems with them, and the APP works well.
So no ethernet setup? Why limit to 60A?
So the car either has to be in the garage or the garage door open to charge 🤔
This car is parked inside the garage
Probably a daft question mate, but does the CT go on the line conductor?
No question is a daft one, yes it does.
Hey, what bits do you use in ur impact?
Love the videos ❤
Thanks mate!! I can’t remember if I’m honest I’ve had them years! If you search in Amazon for long orange impact driver bits they come up 👍
Hey Adam, Watched a few of your videos now and what a fantastic job you do. Im a spark myself and have done the EV course and also done a few chargers.
Please don't take this as i'm criticising but i have a question which i'm not fully understanding.
Regs say that you cant run communication cables along side power cables. Now i have 2 things for this 1st of all how is EV Ultra cable compliant in the seance you run power and CAT5 cable in close and tight proximity. Secondly i didn't think you could make a CAT 5 connection inside of a consumer unit when its being used as a Internet connection.
Im just wanting to know if i have missed something myself as i know Doncaster cable would not produce a cable that wasn't compliant and i have seen multiple sparks make connections in the consumer unit to CAT5 cables.
Hi mate so this is an older video now and my more recent ones you will see the connections on the outside of the consumer unit, with regards to the EV ultra I don’t know the science but if you get in touch with Doncaster’s they will help you, don’t forget the cable is shielded
@@sotaelectrical its a question I have had for a while…. I’m not questioning Doncaster it’s clear that they know what they are doing and it holds a BS number so most have been deemed fine by the powers at be. Either way love the Videos and find them really useful and entertaining so thank you
@@gmeadowcroft84 thank you for watching!! I appreciate it 👍👍
EV-Ultra® consists of power conductors and data cables that are rated to the same nominal
voltage - therefore segregation of power and data is not required.
@@LeeSmith-gz9fb Thanks Lee, interesting to know
7:14 Just wanted some clarification for this bit. You say that it doesn't work well with DC battery systems, but there is no such thing as an AC battery system.
The battery will always be DC, and the inverter will always convert it to AC, so any CT would go on the AC side of the inverter.
Did you mean that with transformerless inverters, there is a DC offset from the inverter that will blind the CT, as with type AC RCD's?
I'm guessing that's the case, and if so, it's always worth checking to see if it is a transformerless inverter, cause my Victron specifically states because of the isolation provided by the transformer, there is no DC on the AC side of the inverter.
Thanks for the videos :).
Hi mate, so what I meant was AC coupled battery systems where there is a new circuit fed from the consumer unit straight to the inverter
@@sotaelectrical Ah right, thanks for the clarification :).
Hi pal, just a quick question
I had a client contact today asking about an existing submarine main supply to there garage. They have had an EV company round to survey for EV charger.
They have been told that they do not need RCD protection? And also that the sun main is fine for 100amps 😂 unlikely. Now whenever I instal and EV charger I always supply via double pole type A rcbo regardless of the charger having and internal RCD. What is your opinion regs wise on omitting separate rcd and only relying on the RCD in EV charger.
Thanks for the vids and info 👍👍
Hi mate, unless they have a three phase supply to the property it is extremely unlikely that they have a 100A capacity to the garage, they probably saw a 100A main switch in the consumer unit and assumed they have a 100A supply 🤣 I also never rely on the integral RCD and with the EV chargers the exception being the project EV, there is no way for the customer to test the RCD quarterly as they can with an RCBO.
If that was my job I would recommend the zappi, you can install a CT on the meter tails with a Harvi if you can’t hardwire it for your load management and a secondary CT in the garage consumer unit set to ‘monitor’ and limit it accordingly
@@sotaelectrical exactly my option also, especially the RCD for testing. I’m going for a look myself tomorrow and advise client accordingly.
@@Bazza-tn5ck hope it all goes well buddy! Have a great weekend!!
Where did you get the name for your company? are you into climbing mountains or are you an ameter radio operator or both?
Hi mate, so if the main fuse is 60amp what would you adjust it to?
I would go 55A mate
Thanks mate, great videos 👍
@@bobjonan5045 thank you
the advantage of using two pairs of the ethernet cable is if the client changes their internet supplier all they have to do is plug the ethernet into the new router no wifi to worry about.
Does anyone actually check WiFi strength where the Zappi is going to be installed? If you use a physical hub, you don't need to, but my battery inverters are right next to my Zappi in my garage and I had to install a WiFi booster to be able to talk to it remotely.
Presumably if I'd been using the Vhub, I'd also have struggled.
Not submarine, sun-main!! Well I hope so at least 😂😂
I didn't realise that not all RCBOs are not double-pole 👍👍👍👍
Every days a school day buddy!! Pleased you got something out of the video 👍👍
As charger is indoors, can you not just supply it in suitably sized twin and earth? Much cheaper.
Yeah you can but I do these day in and day out so I have off cuts of EV ultra in the van so I just used that
@@sotaelectrical Makes sense. 👍
Another thought: if the charger supply cable is clipped to the wall (i.e. not buried in walls) does it even need to be on an RCD? The charger has in-built RCD so is there a need to have RCD for the supply cable?
@@3pointedshr yes, if you read the installer instructions for the Zappi it clearly states that the RCD does not comply with the regs and a Type A RCD must be installed upstream
@@sotaelectrical I see. Is the upstream RCD required on all chargers then or just Zappi?
Wicked
Wps is always quicker and easier if possible
Agreed but i find it doesn’t work that often so given up trying
Great work 👌
Thank you 👍👍