You’re certainly not just talking to yourself here ❤ I enjoy your content a lot and I think there’s actually no comparison to your channel here on RUclips. The dawn of Handheld computing was super fascinating to me at the time, and I love to see it covered so entertainingly here! I‘m glad you’re putting in all this time and effort to make these wonderful Videos for us 🤗
Subsequently, Fujitsu released a dual-boot phone that ran Symbian or Windows 7. It was called the LOOX F07C but I'm not sure it was sold outside of Japan. People have run Linux and Win 10 on it, although I don't know if anyone got these to run "well".
Yes they did, only in Japan I think. The closest we came was the HTC shift which ran Windows Mobile and (I think) Vista - it had an 800Mhz pentium M I think so wouldn't have been fast
I think you meant WM 2003SE, not 2002SE (i dont think it even exists). Also, im sure that Acer N300 has 400Mhz Samsung CPU, not 300. I have noticed that, for unknown reasons, Samsung ARM CPU's are much snappier than higher clocked Intel counterparts in all graphics-related operations, probably the reason for performance difference. Lastly, this is nice as a demo but not really useful. Maybe HTC HD2 would be up to the task?
You are correct its WM 2003SE!!! Silly me! The N300 is defo 300Mhz or at least the one I have is. Yes there was a comment saying that the boot time was ~30sec on the HTC HD2 and 3 sec to launch solitaire so similar speed to my Libretto CT50. I do wonder how useable it would be with a capacitive screen though!
If you mean Windows 1.0 yes you can - you can use this method or since up to Windows 3.0 it will run in a pure DOS environment I would suggest you use PocketDOS or similar instead
Thats got to be close to running on OG hardware. How do you find the capacitive screen for using Win 95 on such a small device? Are you using a stylus or managing with your finger?
I tried shutting down to ms-dos and then set it to boot directly into dos. That worked. It’s not as slow. I have a HTC Advantage. I tried to get my Bluetooth keyboard to connect but it didn’t want to pair and the tiny keyboard is slow to use.
I bet it was reasonably snappy running DOS, will have a play at the weekend. Dosbox is probably a better option for DOS though. Weird that you couldn't connect the BT keyboard I wonder if the CPU was just maxed out so couldn't cope with the BT connection? Yeah that tiny keyboard isn't great...
@@HandheldComputing The problem was that Windows Mobile 6 kept wanting a PIN code for the keyboard. I tried no passcode, 0000 and 1111. No passcode started to work, asked me the device type and then re-asked for a PIN code and would’nt accept a blank pin.
Yes I would love too, I am pretty sure that Viliv released a full set of drivers for 32bt Windows 7 and its specs would mean it would run well on there. Will drop you a message on FB
Good point, should be easy enough to create a Win3.1 img file, faster still would be Win3.0 running on pocket DOS (no emulation needed), there are even mouse drivers for the touch screen available 😃
does your htc advantage also seem to be slower in general, like playing games, etc. than other pdas? i have one and it seems really slow, i have no idea how to make it faster
Sadly yes, its running WM6.1 but compared to the Loox its a bit slow swapping apps and video playback isn't as good. On the plus side having native word and excel is a big bonus!
@@Kuba38OwO WM2003/SE is just a lot more efficient, there's loads of bloat in WM5/6. If you are OK with flashing new ROMs you could look on XDA developers as there was a very active community producing custom ROMs for the Advantage and maybe one of those will be faster
You’re certainly not just talking to yourself here ❤ I enjoy your content a lot and I think there’s actually no comparison to your channel here on RUclips. The dawn of Handheld computing was super fascinating to me at the time, and I love to see it covered so entertainingly here! I‘m glad you’re putting in all this time and effort to make these wonderful Videos for us 🤗
Thank you so much for your kind words. I enjoy making these videos and I'm happy that people enjoy them 😃
The fact that you can even do this is just amazing.
It is amazing and while its slow, it was a lot of fun to have a play with such an iconic OS in the palm of my hand!
@@HandheldComputing But I'd just stick Windows CE for that "Windows 95/98" vibe thank you very much... 😝 lol
Ha ha yeah, but it was fun to play with win'95
Subsequently, Fujitsu released a dual-boot phone that ran Symbian or Windows 7. It was called the LOOX F07C but I'm not sure it was sold outside of Japan. People have run Linux and Win 10 on it, although I don't know if anyone got these to run "well".
Yes they did, only in Japan I think. The closest we came was the HTC shift which ran Windows Mobile and (I think) Vista - it had an 800Mhz pentium M I think so wouldn't have been fast
nice project!
Yeah its been a fun one this
6:01 nice (unintended?) pun there :)
Advantage 🤣😂
Completely unintended, well spotted!
I think you meant WM 2003SE, not 2002SE (i dont think it even exists). Also, im sure that Acer N300 has 400Mhz Samsung CPU, not 300. I have noticed that, for unknown reasons, Samsung ARM CPU's are much snappier than higher clocked Intel counterparts in all graphics-related operations, probably the reason for performance difference. Lastly, this is nice as a demo but not really useful. Maybe HTC HD2 would be up to the task?
You are correct its WM 2003SE!!! Silly me! The N300 is defo 300Mhz or at least the one I have is. Yes there was a comment saying that the boot time was ~30sec on the HTC HD2 and 3 sec to launch solitaire so similar speed to my Libretto CT50. I do wonder how useable it would be with a capacitive screen though!
So it turns out that there was an Acer N310 which does have the 400Mhz CPU which explains the confusion - also I need to try and get one 😉
Can it be possible to run win pe 1.0 on the poket pc
If you mean Windows 1.0 yes you can - you can use this method or since up to Windows 3.0 it will run in a pure DOS environment I would suggest you use PocketDOS or similar instead
It runs pretty fast on a HTC HD2. Less than 50 seconds to boot and Solitaire takes a bit less than 3 seconds to load
Thats got to be close to running on OG hardware. How do you find the capacitive screen for using Win 95 on such a small device? Are you using a stylus or managing with your finger?
I tried shutting down to ms-dos and then set it to boot directly into dos. That worked. It’s not as slow. I have a HTC Advantage. I tried to get my Bluetooth keyboard to connect but it didn’t want to pair and the tiny keyboard is slow to use.
I bet it was reasonably snappy running DOS, will have a play at the weekend. Dosbox is probably a better option for DOS though. Weird that you couldn't connect the BT keyboard I wonder if the CPU was just maxed out so couldn't cope with the BT connection? Yeah that tiny keyboard isn't great...
@@HandheldComputing The problem was that Windows Mobile 6 kept wanting a PIN code for the keyboard. I tried no passcode, 0000 and 1111. No passcode started to work, asked me the device type and then re-asked for a PIN code and would’nt accept a blank pin.
That's weird, does the BT keyboard work normally? I would try 1234 as a pin code too as that's a common default
I wanted to ask if you’d like to review my Viliv n5 Windows XP UMPC and possibly install Vista or higher. PM!
Yes I would love too, I am pretty sure that Viliv released a full set of drivers for 32bt Windows 7 and its specs would mean it would run well on there. Will drop you a message on FB
@@HandheldComputing Password here
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Lol, I miss those days having the HTC Touch Viva
No banking apps or fitness trackers back then, simpler times 😉
Imagine how quick MS-DOS and windows 3.1 would be?
Good point, should be easy enough to create a Win3.1 img file, faster still would be Win3.0 running on pocket DOS (no emulation needed), there are even mouse drivers for the touch screen available 😃
Interesting emulation. I can imagine it took forever to make this video.
It did take a while! I think it was worth it though and it was a lot of fun to do
@@HandheldComputing Not only an interesting watch but also a good technical reference for the future.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
does your htc advantage also seem to be slower in general, like playing games, etc. than other pdas? i have one and it seems really slow, i have no idea how to make it faster
Sadly yes, its running WM6.1 but compared to the Loox its a bit slow swapping apps and video playback isn't as good. On the plus side having native word and excel is a big bonus!
@@HandheldComputing damn, i bought it, thinking it will be a huge upgrade to my ipaq h1940, and the ipaq is literally faster, it has a 300mhz cpu
@@Kuba38OwO WM2003/SE is just a lot more efficient, there's loads of bloat in WM5/6. If you are OK with flashing new ROMs you could look on XDA developers as there was a very active community producing custom ROMs for the Advantage and maybe one of those will be faster
@@HandheldComputing already flashed a michYprima wm6.1 clean edition, no improvements
@@Kuba38OwO There must be a "lite" version of WM6 out there
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Thanks 😃
can i have one of your older Pocket PCs free? i know that's a strange question, but Texas USA, can it be done?
Sorry, if you were in the UK I would consider it but the shipping for US is crazy. It'd be cheaper to pick one up off ebay locally