The origins of Thornbridge & Jaipur | The Craft Beer Channel
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- The origins of Thornbridge & Jaipur | The Craft Beer Channel
Jonny heads to beautiful Derbyshire to visit a brewery that has been on his bucket list for a long time - Thornbridge. Join him for a tour and interview with MD Simon and head brewer Rob, in which we talk through the origins of a brewery that helped kickstart the UK craft beer revolution.
From there we geek out about yeast, the balance of manufacturing and artistry, and why their flagship West Coast IPA Jaipur has changed A LOT since it was first brewed.
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Hey beer geeks! Who loves Jaipur then? And who else do you think helped kick start the UK craft beer revolution - or the revolution where you are!?
Love a Jaipur, fresh on tap is best for maximum flavour and hop. I tried a Jaipur X once too, pretty punchy stuff.
@@chrisgreen6259 Haha yeah I enjoyed Jaipur X too - not sure if it is happening this year. I think they were unsure too!
Marble and Buxton would both be great choices for a similar kind of feature.
I'd lost interest in Thornbridge until they suddenly released their barrel-aged beers a few years back (The Heart Desires, et al). What a pleasant surprise they were!
I love Jaipur, there is something SOOO satisfying about it after a long day. Who "Kicked off Craft beef revolution".... Can I say Titanic? No really Titanic Brewery!!!
@@jonmeyrick Yeah the barrel stuff is equally high quality and balanced. We have wanted to do a video on Marble for a long time but never managed it. One day soon, we hope.
Welcome back!! Brilliant video too. Jaipur is such an iconic beer. Feels like a classic beer with a really modern twist to it. Really good interview with people who absolutely love what they do. Glad you guys are back to entertain us all again!!
Love Thornbridge and I'm delighted I can easily find their beers way over here on the west coast of Eire
Another great video from a superb channel, polished content and great stories. Keep up the good work lads!
Thanks so much!
I have been to the brewery as well . They were in a very festive mood and I was very well taken care of.
I wish we saw more of their beers in Australia, as I have enjoyed the three I've come across.
Really enjoyed this.
Jaipur... one of my all-time favs!
Well done Gentlemen, great watch & listen.
Love a Jaipur which I know well, gonna get educated upon the other Thornbridge produce ;)
Just visited the Thornbridge site and was amazed by the large, wide range they've got. Well worth a visit for anyone looking to stock up. :)
YEah 45,000 HL! So good to see an independent brewery able to grow that far given all the obstacles in their way
Jaipur is my go to supermarket beer along with Budvar/Pilsner Erquell. Visited Thornbridge 5 or 6 years ago, was a really cool spot. Got a whole load of takeaway beers and then went to a BYOB curry house in Bakewell and had an amazing meal. Good fucking times. Great video!
Man what a day that must have been
Great job buddy 👏👏👏
Interesting video!
Excellent video guy - and yes Jaipur is bang on
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I just brewed a blonde ale split batch using Wyeast London Ale III in one fermenter & Imperial Yeast Flagship (Chico Strain) in the other fermenter .
The way yeast subdue bitterness is totally a thing. Cheers from California!
Love Kipling and Green Mountain- really want to try Northbridge and Halcyon Grapefruit sometime soon!
The straight up Halcyon is amazing too. I was there a few days after a fresh batch was brewed and it was all sold out already. Nearly walked straight back out the door.
Ended up ordering a selection of these beers after watching that video 😮😎
If you decided to come state side, give us a call and we can show you around the Colorado Springs microbrewery scene! Love the interview and tour. What an amazing idea and great story.
Cheers! We have been stateside dozens of times but never to Colorado so it is on the list!
I have been looking for this beer for years here in the US (New Jersey) and I can't find it. Ive had a couple Thornbridge beers and they're absolutely fantastic!
Here in Salt Lake City, Wasatch and Squatters have been around a long time, but I think Kiitos or Shades really kicked off the craft beer revolution in Utah.
I always thought Jaipur in the can tasted different to the bottle, Cask is not even in the same ballpark! this is definitely my go to beer when my tastebuds need a rest from getting destroyed by New England IPA/DIPAs. Great video, look forward to seeing you visit another brewery in the future!
Absolutely. Some people criticise Thornbridge for being middle of the road, but their more balanced approach to flavour is vital to the industry and no one does it better.
Cycled from Manchester to the brewery and took the tour, they had an incredible peanut butter porter called Charlie Brown on that day 👌🏼
Might have been a brown ale...
@@giuseppeconlan Delicious either way!
I love Thornbridge beers and bought a lot from them online in lockdown. Don't do a bad beer IMO, Pondera is awesome!
Had a good few Ponderas after filming this!
Congratulations on the nuptials, Jonny! Hopefully the Brad was involved as well.
He was front row I assure you
Green Mountain is my absolute favourite. I was gutted to see 'reduced to clear' in my local Tesco. I must be the only person that buys it. Obviously I snapped it all up.
2 packs of 4 330ml for £9 at Asda my good man. Works out at £1.12 a can
Jaipur is banging from the PerfectDraft, but I generally want something a little less 'polite' in my IPAs. Considering the dearth of West Coasters in the UK there's some solid choices from Thornbridge, including Pondera, the collab with Firestone Walker. Nice vid, cheers, and congrats on getting married!
Yeah Pondera was freakin' ace. We like our IPAs big too, but a cask of Jaipur is the kind of beer well drink all night
I loved the Yelamu
Every beer I had from thornbridge tasted metalic.
Interesting...I have never heard that criticism before, they are one of the most consistent breweries in the UK with some serious QA equipment.
It must have been the Dark malts that gave me that. Was not a case for any of the pale beers.
Solid brewery
JAIPUR on Cask! godgiven! whish we could experience this in berlin!
and lucas wa smy goto lager in scottland 2017
I haven't had anything from Thornbridge in years. It seems I only see them in supermarkets these days and I feel that's turned me off from them however, after watching this video I think I'll have a little revisit and see how it's all holding up. Is Halcyon still around? I remember St. Petersburg being a good one as well.
As far as breweries who kick started craft, at least living in London, I would say Thornbridge, Meantime, Camden Town, Beavertown, Brewdog and Kernel. And of all those the only brewery I still drink beer from in 2020 is Kernel.
I think their bigger beers do dominate their narrative but they release endless neew beers every month. I think they said they did 60 last year so more than one a week!
One of my fav breweries, Green Mountain and Jamestown all the way
Green Mountain is ace too. And Lukas FTW. Such a great lager.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel You should visit triple point brewery in Sheff if u want a good lager, not to mention they might be brewing the some of best West coast IPA in the country right now in Debut
Love some content from Sheffield! Hope you had time to visit Saint Mars of the Deserts lovely tap room, also would highly recommend Abbeydales new stuff and Triple Points very sessionable brews
Its Derbyshire
@@jamescoxon9636 I know what you mean and yeah you're right but to me since Thornbridge Brewery itself is about an hour ish west of sheffield, the owners are from Sheff (They make a beer with the Sheffield Wednesday Badge on the bottle) Many people in sheffield consider them a Sheffield brewery since they are still within the area of Sheffield (Just not the city center).
@@maxalderton2481 indeed, it's in Bakewell. West of Sheffield...in Derbyshire 👍
@@jamescoxon9636 yeah sorry i edited my previous reply to make more sense
@@maxalderton2481 👍🍺
I've only had the chance to have the Jaipur, Lukas and Cocoa Wonderland. Each top quality, only the porter I can only manage one as the lactose makes it too sweet for my tastes.
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Need to try Jaipur in a couple more formats really, had it in can and was not overly impressed. Would be interested to hear others takes on it in can.
What was your issue with it? Usually it is on top form in can because turnover is so incredibly fast.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel It was slightly soapy and at 5.9% it wasn't doing loads for me flavor wise hints of citrus + grapefruit bitterness. No idea how long it had been on the supermarket shelf so that could have been a factor.
@@JackBWakeham Uho - well soapy is no good at all, but remember it was conceived in the days where hops were supposed to be intertwined with the malt rather than cutting right through. So it should be caramel, orange peel, grapefruit and pine but never overwhelming, never punching you in the face with hops but remaining crushable for a few cans. Much like Pliny, Blind Pig, Two Hearted, Race 5 and that 2000s run of West Coasters.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Like i say i would love to give it another go at some point i certainly didn't dislike it. Your point on the hops being intertwined with the malt definitely rings true though and makes a lot of sense. Its certainly more of an easy drinker than something that punches you in the face, maybe i went into it with the wrong expectations (does happen sometimes)
@@JackBWakeham God we do it all the time! You get so used to nursing and sipping at these massive DIPAs and Imperial stouts that you forget some IPAs are designed to be crushed...even if the ABV is implying that's a bad idea!
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"Jaipur" name seems fascinating. It is the capital state of Rajasthan (India)
What a day to give up beer for a month
Godspeed. See you on the other side.
Also where BrewDog began!
Indeed! Jonny is working on an article for Good Beer Hunting that tells that story.
Sadly just never got into it because of the traditional name and marketing agency can art and I'm generally not a fan of tradition turned craft breweries as you can usually always taste that traditional twang in the beer, usually some oxidation. Jaipur being darker than expected for 100% pale malt sounds like the the wort is over-boiled. However will give it another try next time I'm in Tesco.
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That is profound in its own way. Don't drink and drive folks.
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Its Pink city Jaipur in India bring it there then well tell u abt that
Why is the beer called Jaipur (named after a city in India)??
It was named after the city where one of the owners got married.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel this is fab to know..
I'm a big fan of cocoa wonderland
A lovely beer. Not seen it for a while though! Hope it's coming back this winter.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel they have it in morrisons all of the time in bottle.
Usually part of the 4 for £6 range too.
They also have salted caramel ice cream porter 'lucaria" in there too which is amazing, pretty new that one as far as I'm aware
Jonny are they saying Jaipur cask needed to be drier? So 1.006/1.008 rather than 1.010 finishing gravity? Or the other way around? Proper knowledge bombs in here! My latest video on doing a hoppy cask beer didn't quite work as like they said was a bit flabby but a drier finish could make it a lot better ....
Not sure they said it NEEDS to be drier but their British ale yeast does attenuate further and I think it really does help with the fact that cask can feel a little flabbier and sweeter due to the lower carbonation.
The Craft Beer Channel nice one 👍
retributionbrewing.co.uk/2015/07/08/10th-anniversary-jaipur-brewday-at-thornbridge-hall-brewery/
boakandbailey.com/2016/02/thornbridge-jaipur-and-brewdog-punk-ipa/
Hopefully they may shed some extra light. I'm working on a clone recipe currently as Johnny made me buy a Pint365 and I'm looking for interesting beers to put on it....
One of the original West Coast IPA's in the UK..... alrighty then. I'm sure its great but that's just a funny combination of words XD.
Haha - no weirder than an American India Pale Ale though!
@@TheCraftBeerChannel This world!
Jaipur was one of the first beers that got me in to craft beer so I thank Thornbridge massively for that. My bank account, however, definitely does not.
God yeah help us all.
Jaipur is a wonderful beer . I am not sure about your American references Its as British as fish and chips The was in Britain. Here's the abridged version: British sailors, while sailing to India, loaded up barrels of with hops, because hops were a preservative. The hops hung around in the for so long that they lost their fruity flavor and left a bitter tasting
You are correct, but the American IPA is a very different style and this is what Jaipur is based on. Its relation to historic English IPA is almost non-existent at this point!
i picked up some jaipur from morrisons cause everyone was raving about it and personaly i thought it was garbage didnt rate it at all, i drank it dont get me wrong but certainly wouldnt be buying it again, came across as just another beer thats had all the life filtered out of it
just to comment on my own comment lol unless i got a naff batch or it hadnt been stored correctly i dont know
It is unlikely you did - they are very consistent and sell their beer pretty fast so it is usually fresh. I mean it is an "old school" west coast beer so if you are an NEIPA lover it is gonna be a totally different experience - but if you are a west coast fan and think that then you are very entitled to your opinion and we just disagree!
Jaipoorly 😂
haha "mountain ipa" … done by Odelle etc and even CW … damm getting old, cant even chase the trends anymore
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Pity Jaipur and Kipling ( in particular) are crap now.
I remember seeing Thornbridge on a beer documentary 'Beer Tickers - Beyond the Ale' where the chap went a made a special one off version of Jaipur, I think It was.
The beers sounded darn good, and I had to find Jaipur straight away. I think it was 6% or more when it first came out. It went down really well until you got up and then it hit you.
Also watching James May and Oz Clarke Drink to Britain seeing them visit Thornbridge as well. Oz thought he could spot Jaipur every time it was poured. Suffice to say he was talking b***ocks!
So glad they're still going strong.
Derbyshire isn't in the north 🤨
Bakewell is definitely in the north
brewers need to create if they only make the same beer over and over no mater how good it is the creativity has gone and also the passion brewing becomes boring and nothing to look forward to and i know this as a former brewer at stancill brewery the owners gave no passion for creating anything new and no support they thort they could conquer the world with anciant recipes made for drinkers that would do 10 to 15 pint in an evening they did not understand those times have gone and people want a new exsperiance everytime they spend there cash
Most overrated craft brewer in the UK next to Brewdog in my opinion. Jaipur really is bang average.
Haha - you say average, I say balanced, nuanced and crushable. Not all beers need to slap you around the face (even if it is a hell of a lot of fun) and Thornbridge are the best in the UK at American-style beer you want to drink by the pint. We need breweries like BrewDog and Thornbridge both as a gateway to new drinkers and for reliable and perfectly made beer you can enjoy all night.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Of course it's all about taste, but for every beer Thornbridge are doing, there's equally better sessionable and tastier beers in my opinion out there. For example, Beavertown and Camden Town do more interesting, flavoursome and sessionable beers than Thornbridge. Now you can argue the politics of being owned by Heineken and ABInBev and all that entails, but good beer is good beer. I just find Thornbridge, at best average. Just my two-bobs worth.
Keep up the great work with the channel fellas!
@@bandsbikesandboozereviews totally understand that and agree Camden make sensational session beer - but honestly I think Lukas is a better helles than Camden's, and Beavertown have completely lost their way since the buyout. Until the new brewery came online they were contract brewing in five different locations, and speaking to distributors there were quality, clarity and haze issues with every delivery... and you never even knew if the beer was shipped from Belgium or brewed down the road in Tottenham!
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Fair comment on Beavertown, they got pretty big in a short space of time which can be a curse if you can't keep up with demand. I remember Meantime did a similar thing and transferred some production to The Netherlands and claimed that the Dutch beer only made up 10% of any bottle or can. They were never the same since and if you want an example of really poor beer masquerading as craft beer, look no further than Meantime.