Havertz is bang average. Never in a million years a 20+ goals a season player. Martinelli’s development has stalled and regressed, Arteta has ruined him. Gabriel Jesus was once brilliant but looks done. I’d play him on the wing or not at all. Sterling is obviously washed. Trossard is an impact sub. That leaves us with … Saka? Every other player in our front line is not up to par for a supposedly CONTENDING team.
How is Martinelli’s stalled development Arteta’s fault? Saka has improved, Martinelli gets plenty of 1v1 situations, that’s tactical, Arteta can’t tell him how to 1v1, this ain’t kids football. Low intellect statement
Do you seriously think Arteta is doing the drills for players and not their specific training team? It’s why we don’t credit Mikel for the set pieces either, every area has specific coaches
kiviwor was not the issue today. it is simple you need a world class striker to win the league most years. normally the title wining team has a player who gets 25 goals plus we don't so it will be a struggle
@@gabe9388 oh really, was you also laughing at chelsea drawing to sheffield and burnley last season or chelsea placing 12th 2 years back??? 5 months in, their manager was able to turn things around and they are now 2nd in the table with a mid gk and mid centreback pairing. What are we doing on the other hand ?? We created 0.3 xG from open play out of 2 xG, rest were from set pieces. 5 yrs process to score from set pieces.
@@14_Phoenix Havertz, Jorginho, Sterling wouldn't get on the the Chelsea bench. Cole Palmer is one of the top 10 players in the world. You are 100% right about the keeper and centre halves. They are no joke and will only get better.
This is why Robbie's ratings are ridiculous. He rates the outcome never the performance. Saka makes the exact same run and makes the exact same header and if it's a legit goal he rates his performance as 8, but because a different player misjudged his timing so he was offside, he gave Saka a 7. Nonsense.
I know right. Like how do you convince yourself that you are more likely to go on to have a perfect season with Ws only the rest of the season while the team leading just implodes and loses 4 or more even though they are one of the few teams to have ever gone 95+ points more than once. Boggles.
As an Arsenal fan this sentiment has been delusional since it began but meh we are yet to see. the turnaround for the Gunners last year was exceptional after the new year, we have certainly stagnated this season but there's a lot of football still to be played you never know what might happen. Personally I do not think on current form Arsenal will be challenging for the title come March but we will just have to see if they can turn the ship around. Credit to Fullham today they were very well organized and the Jiminez goal was just a moment of perfect execution
@@crXssfire_ I do agree that anything can happen but first and foremost, Arsenal has to concern themselves with going on a run. However, it is also true that when city dropped off Arsenal have not taken advantage of that.
Here are some hard facts....we did not buy a 20 goal plus striker...havertz is an up n down player....Jesus is done ..the ball was in the air for ages and he just watched it..kiwior merino not up to it in my view..Partey had to get it on target ...had to!!! Martinelli......rubbish this season ...get shot for 40 million plus ...The pluses..Odegard runs us saka was ok Rice was ok ...the big one is the sheer reluctance to slend 75 million on a PROVEN striker ...you do not win this league without one fact
Doesn't matter striker, winger, midfielder. You need someone to give you 20 goals season. Pep won without one and what did he do, went out the next season and got one. Because he knew that he needed someone who can potentially guarantee you 20 plus goals
I dont understand ppl blaming jorginho WHEN IN THIS GAME HE: WON 5/7 GROUND DUELS, 10 PASSES INTO FINAL 3RD, 2 INTERCEPTIONS, 2/3 LONG PASSES, 92 PASS ACCURACY. ITS SO EASY TO BLAME A PLAYER..PPL NEED TO WATCH THE GAME.
From what I see from Marti and Leo, I think Nwaneri can be our starter LW he got pace, vision, dribble, passing a mix between Marti who lacks IQ and Leo who lacks pace.
Your ratings criteria is very strange. Whether Sakas goal was allowed or not should have nothing to do with the fact that he executed it brilliantly. So you said he would get a higher rating if Martenelli was onside. Be real guys with your scores.
Raya's positioning was poor for the goal, left too much space on his right. Kiwior fell asleep and saliba could've blocked it had he had slid in but instead he stayed on his feet and allowed the shot
@SA-tf7rx it was an average shot. Watch it over again, raya's positioning isn't the greatest. Even for the west ham free kick, look at all the space he left after setting up the wall
The whole point of developing the set piece ability was to win matches when plan A isn't working, to nick matches that you're losing, of when you've gone down to 10 men. Instead, Arsenal's plan A has virtually disappeared and they haven't rescued losing positions with wins all season.
Robbie giving Kiwior a 3 is pure bias and scapegoating lmao. If it was Saliba that had made that mistake he would’ve found a way to still give him a 6. Jimenez had a LOT to do it wasn’t an incredibly crazy gaffe by any means …
Kiwior was at major fault for that goal he got spun far too easily. He’s rubbish and needs removing from this club just like havertz Martinelli and Jesus
For Arsenal it's all about mentality. If they think title leaders are about to drop points, they lay back and give a shitty performance. Funny how when fans analyse next 10 games and assume they are up for grab, the team drops points.
Havertz is a disgrace as a striker toothless,hopeless , zero threat in front of goal 3. Kiwior had a lapse of concentration 5, Trossard 2 complete passenger no impact . Rice all effort and not enough quality 6. Saka lacked cutting edge 5, Martinelli dumb aimless running 4 Jesus 3 no urgency in his play
You guys need to be honest with yourself, where was your left back. Timber was more in center midfield, Kivor is slow and should not be that expose he should have done better
Makes a lot of sense. Trossad was not as bad as rated. Gabriel Jesus could not complete a single pass and deserves 1/10. Havertz was a mess. The ratings are accurate
But why's it that Arteta is not trusting in his players we have already our combination of Timber, Odegaard and Saka but whenever you see a manager wants to lose you can see him started changing players, instead of leaving that combination and he starts Tieney on the left defense, I'm not happy with the Arteta for days selection
I have said it before, before our competitors drop points, we drop points. I don’t know why we think Liverpool will drop and we watch them. Lower level teams will catch us before we catch Liverpool
Honestly, we could do with a Sancho or a Jackson and a Madueke. Caicedo is looking like a top class midfielder. Chelsea did great business. We can better but Arteta is not it. He took us as far as he can
NO WAY THEY GAVE ODEGAARD 6. HE WAS POOR. HE HAD THE WORST RATING AMONG ARSENAL PLAYERS AND GAVE AWAY THE BALL 19 TIMES. THESE GUYS ARE BIAS. IF TROSSARD GAVE THE BALL AWAY 19 TIMES, AFTV WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HIM
We are the biggest bottle jobs in the league, had countless chances over the last 3 years when Liverpool and City weren’t up to and wasted them all. When it matters we crumble and that’s a fact.
Based on this game only, how can one say Trossard was better than Martinelli? At least Martinelli tried to make things happen, Trossard was a ghost for the whole first half.
its sad to know that midweek everyone was like yes arsenal, against sporting everyone was yes and now you draw against a fulham and its sad to know that we are back to emery stage when people asking for the manager to be sack and when you think about the start of he season with all these injuries and still in the position where we are comparing to years gone by its just sad. if we had var 15-20 years ago im sure that a lot of titles that teams have won would be cancelled and i wont call any names because if var wasn't in football the last 3-4 years I'm sure arsenal would have at least 2 titles. I'm happy that players don't watch aftv or i hope they don't because if i was them and i read some of these comments i wouldn't even renew my contract i would request a transfer
When Saka was poor, everyone still back up this guy.... that's reality he was very poor....😂😂😂😂 We can't always rely to our defender to bail out on our poor attacking performance.....
Saka missed White or Timber on the right side. Partey defends well but doesn’t overlap. I feel that Saka needs that especially when he is being double up on to create more space and allow him to be more effective.
I've had enough of Arteta changing his system because of 1 player. Did it for too long with Odegaard, now happening with the left-back!! It's so frustrating to watch. Could've easily tried Myles Skelly or even Tierny there... we could clearly see Partey wasn't working there.
When you move Timber LB And Partey RB even though you have 2 LBs on bench [MLS and KT]. Partey does his best but he ISNT a RB And we then miss his ball progression from CM. This persistence of moving Timber and Partey kills us both in wide areas and centrally.
Partey in the midfield creates for Odigaard and Saka but why play him at the RB? Not every player is good in the air so blaming a player for not able to score from a header is ridiculous
Saliba flawless? Are these two drunk again? He didn’t even put a challenge for their goal just watched as the guy scored, you got to put a block in there. Sorry I love saliba but he’s as fault for the goal as much as Partey missing the header and kiwior getting caught out of position. Flawless my ass
I don’t understand why none of the forwards are willing to run behind the back line and we don’t put balls behind the low block. If we could have let Fulham come out and attack us, we could be win the game. We should have let them have a ball.
Let's all face it and accept this. I don't see us progressing well if we don't Change our playing style. This passing the ball is not giving us any positive outcome. We have become very predictable. We can't penetrate the opposition defense through the center. Now many teams have mastered our tactics. Why don't we change. Saka is capable of scoring form outside the box. It's just frustrating copying pep style of play. Why not have our own style of play. Ask yourself we don't have quick passing and passing with intention to score. Chelsea is playing very fast forward passes that have a very positive outcome. Sad to see arteta being so ridgit and not being bold enough to re invent. His unique style of play.
Player ratings not for everyone. If it was Magalhaes, the rating was gonna be 6, but becoz its Kiwior the rating is 3. Last time against Newcastle both the CBs got good ratings. He said, " That was a quality cross from Gordon. We can't blame them." 😂😂 But he is very harsh on Kiwior. We lost 1-0
My player ratings Raya-5 2 shots on target one went by him, barely had anything to do Partey- 5 defended well but didn't help saka at all up front Saliba- 7 defended well as usual + goal Kiwior- 3 let his man go right by him for the goal Timber- 5 couldn't help the attack leaving kiwior alone, did his def duties well Jorginho- 6 didn't do anything wrong, didn't go anything great Rice- 7 covered a lot of ground, passing and crosses created chances nobody took Odegaard- 6 played ok but Fulham didn't give him time on the ball, smothered him every time he got the ball Saka-6 same as Odegaard, double teamed and had no overlap/support Havertz-5 non-existent besides the assist Trossard-3 selfish/lazy performance Jesus-3 did nothing Nwaneri- 5 not much time to make a difference Merino-5 barely noticed him Martinelli- 4 got a stupid yellow
Partey header miss Kai shot miss Rice overshooting Martinelli offside Saka last second goofy pass to Leno We cannot be champions when we routinely do such things. Champions are near perfect and we don’t play as best perfect team.
If Arsenal don’t get a striker in January is disgraceful to the fans and the club. It’s there in black and white! We won’t win anything this season without a proper striker.
Robbie again . Saying Saliba is flawless . I thought he could have done bit better for the goal we have conceded. 😮😮😮😮. He also so dominating that when Lee have different ratings he forced him to change
My ratings; Raya 7, Partey 6 because he's not a right back, Saliba 8, Kiwior 5, Timber 6, Jorginho 6, Rice 5, Odegaard 6, Saka 7, Havertz 5, Trossard 4. Subs; Jesus 2, Martinelli 2, Nwaneri not enough time, Merino not enough time. Arteta 4 bad team selection, stop playing Partey out of position.
7’s for most, for that! Nonsense! Raya - 7 Partey - 6 Saliba - 7 Kiwior - 4 Timber - 6 Jorginho - 6 Rice - 7 Odegaard - 5 Saka - 5 Trossard - 4 Havertz - 5 Jesus - 3 Other Subs - 5 Odegaard better not be playing through a knock
When Arsenal decide to play Havertz Upfront .. I know for a fact they not wining the League .. Havertz give u a glimpse of top class talent in some game .. but goes missing in majority of the game .. and what worse Arsenal only got Jesus as a backup striker .. is like they are not serious to winning the League ...
You need to understand we will win nothing with Havertz, Untill there is a proper striker we will not win a thing, he brings the rest of the team down. I’m amazed you don’t see this
Can't put it all this on Kiwior, he played decent besides the goal. Martinelli, Havertz, Partey, Jesus and Ode all had shockers. Rice only one who did his job at Cottage.
Few day ago arsenal fan counting game where Liverpool will drop point but completely forgot arsenal will not winning every game until GW38. Now Chelsea quietly over take as tittle battle enter crucial busy period 😅😅
Martinelli is lacking big time. Jesus is defunct. The whole team are out of ideas. I have watched lesser teams play more open and expansive football. Its worrying. The need for silverware has never been so vital.
*Kiwior 3? What rubbish is this? He had a good game. Had that been Gabriel there wouldn't be this much outcry from the likes of Robbie. When Califiori and Gabriel let a pass through to AWB against West Ham for them to score, you lot were quiet. Noone gave them 3s or 4s in the ratings. But you want to scapegoat Kiwior, pathetic*
Havertz is bang average. Never in a million years a 20+ goals a season player. Martinelli’s development has stalled and regressed, Arteta has ruined him. Gabriel Jesus was once brilliant but looks done. I’d play him on the wing or not at all. Sterling is obviously washed. Trossard is an impact sub. That leaves us with … Saka? Every other player in our front line is not up to par for a supposedly CONTENDING team.
Lookman in jan
How is Martinelli’s stalled development Arteta’s fault? Saka has improved, Martinelli gets plenty of 1v1 situations, that’s tactical, Arteta can’t tell him how to 1v1, this ain’t kids football. Low intellect statement
Do you seriously think Arteta is doing the drills for players and not their specific training team? It’s why we don’t credit Mikel for the set pieces either, every area has specific coaches
@@urdaeatmoths he doesn’t understand football in the slightest with that comment tbh
The problem is due to the fact Arteta is a bang average manager
kiviwor was not the issue today. it is simple you need a world class striker to win the league most years. normally the title wining team has a player who gets 25 goals plus we don't so it will be a struggle
Yeah, has already lost EPL trophy to either Chelsea, City or Liverpool
0/10 for the manager. 5 yrs into the PRocess and Chelsea are above us. Zero progress.
This guy won’t lead us to the title.
People like you are the problem with the Arsenal fanbase
@@gabe9388 oh really, was you also laughing at chelsea drawing to sheffield and burnley last season or chelsea placing 12th 2 years back??? 5 months in, their manager was able to turn things around and they are now 2nd in the table with a mid gk and mid centreback pairing.
What are we doing on the other hand ?? We created 0.3 xG from open play out of 2 xG, rest were from set pieces. 5 yrs process to score from set pieces.
@@14_Phoenix Havertz, Jorginho, Sterling wouldn't get on the the Chelsea bench. Cole Palmer is one of the top 10 players in the world. You are 100% right about the keeper and centre halves. They are no joke and will only get better.
Arteta will be sacked if he fails to deliver Top 4 that is success in the eyes of the owner unfortunately
To say Saliba was flawless is scandalous! Kiwior, Saliba and Raya are all responsible for that goal.
Yeah, no way Jimenez should be scoring from there. "He had no chance". Bollocks.
Saliba closed distance well and put a challenge in. Not sure what else he couldve done after kiwior got done
It wasn't an error/flaw from Saliba. He tried to heal up the error Kiwior had but failed to do so. I have no idea how that is Saliba's error.
And if saliba challenges and gives a penalty we blame him
This is why Robbie's ratings are ridiculous. He rates the outcome never the performance. Saka makes the exact same run and makes the exact same header and if it's a legit goal he rates his performance as 8, but because a different player misjudged his timing so he was offside, he gave Saka a 7. Nonsense.
Kiwior also gave smith Rowe a chance
Saka was like a 5 anyway lol
All the arsenal fans banging on that Liverpool will drop points thinking they will go on a 10 game winning run 😂
I know right. Like how do you convince yourself that you are more likely to go on to have a perfect season with Ws only the rest of the season while the team leading just implodes and loses 4 or more even though they are one of the few teams to have ever gone 95+ points more than once. Boggles.
Liverpool will drop points, but Arsenal will have to win when they do.
They concentrate on Liverpool but they should worry about Chelsea as well.
As an Arsenal fan this sentiment has been delusional since it began but meh we are yet to see. the turnaround for the Gunners last year was exceptional after the new year, we have certainly stagnated this season but there's a lot of football still to be played you never know what might happen. Personally I do not think on current form Arsenal will be challenging for the title come March but we will just have to see if they can turn the ship around. Credit to Fullham today they were very well organized and the Jiminez goal was just a moment of perfect execution
@@crXssfire_ I do agree that anything can happen but first and foremost, Arsenal has to concern themselves with going on a run. However, it is also true that when city dropped off Arsenal have not taken advantage of that.
Here are some hard facts....we did not buy a 20 goal plus striker...havertz is an up n down player....Jesus is done ..the ball was in the air for ages and he just watched it..kiwior merino not up to it in my view..Partey had to get it on target ...had to!!! Martinelli......rubbish this season ...get shot for 40 million plus ...The pluses..Odegard runs us saka was ok Rice was ok ...the big one is the sheer reluctance to slend 75 million on a PROVEN striker ...you do not win this league without one fact
Liverpool won without one
I have to agree r.e. not buying striker. It was not too bad today
Doesn't matter striker, winger, midfielder. You need someone to give you 20 goals season. Pep won without one and what did he do, went out the next season and got one. Because he knew that he needed someone who can potentially guarantee you 20 plus goals
@@FitzroyGeorge-c4h its endemic at arsenal ...not spending big money on a striker..wenger was the same in the end ..
Same old frail arsenal every season only cups we are lifting this season s drinking cups
I dont understand ppl blaming jorginho WHEN IN THIS GAME HE: WON 5/7 GROUND DUELS, 10 PASSES INTO FINAL 3RD, 2 INTERCEPTIONS, 2/3 LONG PASSES, 92 PASS ACCURACY. ITS SO EASY TO BLAME A PLAYER..PPL NEED TO WATCH THE GAME.
Stats never tell the full story
@user-ot2rw5gu2s I watched the game and replay btw
Easy scapegoat
Thats crazy. Today we played bad as a team
@@user-ot2rw5gu2s watch the game back
Arsenal are a broken record. 5 years in and we still complain about the same thing.
Not remotely true, 5 years ago we were garbage and finishing 8th. Now we're challenging for the title.
Arteta has proven that he's an incompetent clown; he must be replaced.
Replaced with who?
Arsenal is in the Position to be attractive to all the Mangers in the World. That ist not the problem.
@@mikesmith8729 Inzaghi from Inter Milan. He's leagues above Arteta.
If he’s incompetent, you’re deceased
@@londonsfinest6070
What do you mean?
Odegard last two games poor
The guy has been really poor loosing the ball to the opponent too easily and lacking vision.
@@aaronmwangi3251lacking vision the pass to havertz was gold and havertz fumbled the shot
He seems still not fully recovered from vis ancleinjury.
Disgrace to say stole the goal of havertz, when his header was clearly going wide. Saliba HELPED havertz
its a joke
LW needed. Sterling is just here to chill. Troussard and Martinelli are super subs only at best
From what I see from Marti and Leo, I think Nwaneri can be our starter LW he got pace, vision, dribble, passing a mix between Marti who lacks IQ and Leo who lacks pace.
Your ratings criteria is very strange. Whether Sakas goal was allowed or not should have nothing to do with the fact that he executed it brilliantly. So you said he would get a higher rating if Martenelli was onside. Be real guys with your scores.
Raya's positioning was poor for the goal, left too much space on his right. Kiwior fell asleep and saliba could've blocked it had he had slid in but instead he stayed on his feet and allowed the shot
You’re doing too much, it’s a good finish and kiwior got done
@SA-tf7rx it was an average shot. Watch it over again, raya's positioning isn't the greatest. Even for the west ham free kick, look at all the space he left after setting up the wall
Kiwior couldnt read what jiminez was doing. Track the ball or the man he did nothing.
The whole point of developing the set piece ability was to win matches when plan A isn't working, to nick matches that you're losing, of when you've gone down to 10 men. Instead, Arsenal's plan A has virtually disappeared and they haven't rescued losing positions with wins all season.
Unfortunately set pieces have become their plan A
It's embarrassing
7 games we have dropped already. Last season we dropped pts in 10 games. Embarrassing really. Arteta has to go if we dont win anything
Robbie giving Kiwior a 3 is pure bias and scapegoating lmao. If it was Saliba that had made that mistake he would’ve found a way to still give him a 6. Jimenez had a LOT to do it wasn’t an incredibly crazy gaffe by any means …
It was Timber misplacing his position not Kiwior’s fault.
@@timtim8644 Not quite, Kiwior should be covering that, but Saliba should be quicker too.. but true 9 shots out of 10 from that never goes in
@@dawidleier5314
So Raya is to blame
Kiwior was at major fault for that goal he got spun far too easily. He’s rubbish and needs removing from this club just like havertz Martinelli and Jesus
@@mwendiadennis6638 I think it's a combined Kiwior and Saliba, but it's a harsh one, very harsh one. Raya couldn't do much either.
For Arsenal it's all about mentality. If they think title leaders are about to drop points, they lay back and give a shitty performance. Funny how when fans analyse next 10 games and assume they are up for grab, the team drops points.
Havertz is a disgrace as a striker toothless,hopeless , zero threat in front of goal 3. Kiwior had a lapse of concentration 5, Trossard 2 complete passenger no impact . Rice all effort and not enough quality 6. Saka lacked cutting edge 5, Martinelli dumb aimless running 4
Jesus 3 no urgency in his play
I'm from the year 2028 and this comment aged like milk
Fulham 1 stoke city 1 🤝
I'm not a huge fan of Arsenal but stop calling them Stoke it's annoying
@@s.l.l2001they are worse than stoke 🤡😂
no need to call arsenal stoke though 😂
Another Clown....stale!!!!!
Stop disrespecting stoke 😆
Every time we play Partey RB we drop points when will this manager LEARN 🤬
You guys need to be honest with yourself, where was your left back. Timber was more in center midfield, Kivor is slow and should not be that expose he should have done better
Raya 6
Partey 6
Saliba 8
Kiwior 4
Timber 6
Jorginho 6
Rice 7
Odegaard 5
Saka 5
Havertz 2
Trossard 5
Martinelli 4
Jesus -1
Nwaneiri 5
Merino 5
Makes a lot of sense. Trossad was not as bad as rated. Gabriel Jesus could not complete a single pass and deserves 1/10. Havertz was a mess. The ratings are accurate
Fair
Kiwior rated 3 for one error but Martin 6 for doing nothing all game ? Kiwior 5, Jorgi 4, Odegaard 3
Rice misses three chances
I was expressed with his attacking
But why's it that Arteta is not trusting in his players we have already our combination of Timber, Odegaard and Saka but whenever you see a manager wants to lose you can see him started changing players, instead of leaving that combination and he starts Tieney on the left defense, I'm not happy with the Arteta for days selection
I have said it before, before our competitors drop points, we drop points. I don’t know why we think Liverpool will drop and we watch them. Lower level teams will catch us before we catch Liverpool
The trouble is the one to mark is Arteta he’s bloody clueless the sooner he goes the better 6yrs and I FA Cup ?????
I’m at Kiwior right now getting a 3 and a 5. I DARE them to give Martinelli higher than that. Let me just wait…
Unbelievable
Let's not give the manager a rating . Why.?
Saliba was poor for the Fulham goal
So was Timber, but he's flavour of the month
Honestly, we could do with a Sancho or a Jackson and a Madueke. Caicedo is looking like a top class midfielder. Chelsea did great business. We can better but Arteta is not it. He took us as far as he can
NO WAY THEY GAVE ODEGAARD 6. HE WAS POOR. HE HAD THE WORST RATING AMONG ARSENAL PLAYERS AND GAVE AWAY THE BALL 19 TIMES. THESE GUYS ARE BIAS. IF TROSSARD GAVE THE BALL AWAY 19 TIMES, AFTV WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HIM
We are the biggest bottle jobs in the league, had countless chances over the last 3 years when Liverpool and City weren’t up to and wasted them all. When it matters we crumble and that’s a fact.
"No chance for the goal"??? He shouldn't have been so far out and his positioning was bad.
Raya was out of position, should never be beaten from there 2/10
Robbie being harsh . The attackers cost arsenal the game
Arteta*
6 for martinelli and 4 for trossard 😂 lee is such a fan boy
It’s honestly ridiculous
Based on this game only, how can one say Trossard was better than Martinelli? At least Martinelli tried to make things happen, Trossard was a ghost for the whole first half.
its sad to know that midweek everyone was like yes arsenal, against sporting everyone was yes and now you draw against a fulham and its sad to know that we are back to emery stage when people asking for the manager to be sack and when you think about the start of he season with all these injuries and still in the position where we are comparing to years gone by its just sad. if we had var 15-20 years ago im sure that a lot of titles that teams have won would be cancelled and i wont call any names because if var wasn't in football the last 3-4 years I'm sure arsenal would have at least 2 titles. I'm happy that players don't watch aftv or i hope they don't because if i was them and i read some of these comments i wouldn't even renew my contract i would request a transfer
Play like stoke… Get stoke results. Very deserved
Raya 7
Timber 7
Saliba 8
Kiwior 4
Partey 6
Rice 7
Jorginho 5
Odegaard 5
Saka 4
Havertz 2
Troussard 2
Martinelli 4
Merino 5
Nwaneri 5
Jesus 2
When Saka was poor, everyone still back up this guy.... that's reality he was very poor....😂😂😂😂 We can't always rely to our defender to bail out on our poor attacking performance.....
I fear that Ødegaard is carrying another injury.
Saka missed White or Timber on the right side. Partey defends well but doesn’t overlap. I feel that Saka needs that especially when he is being double up on to create more space and allow him to be more effective.
I've had enough of Arteta changing his system because of 1 player. Did it for too long with Odegaard, now happening with the left-back!! It's so frustrating to watch. Could've easily tried Myles Skelly or even Tierny there... we could clearly see Partey wasn't working there.
When you move Timber LB And Partey RB even though you have 2 LBs on bench [MLS and KT]. Partey does his best but he ISNT a RB And we then miss his ball progression from CM. This persistence of moving Timber and Partey kills us both in wide areas and centrally.
Partey in the midfield creates for Odigaard and Saka but why play him at the RB? Not every player is good in the air so blaming a player for not able to score from a header is ridiculous
They always want to blame him,don't mind them
Saliba flawless? Are these two drunk again? He didn’t even put a challenge for their goal just watched as the guy scored, you got to put a block in there. Sorry I love saliba but he’s as fault for the goal as much as Partey missing the header and kiwior getting caught out of position. Flawless my ass
I don’t understand why none of the forwards are willing to run behind the back line and we don’t put balls behind the low block. If we could have let Fulham come out and attack us, we could be win the game. We should have let them have a ball.
Robbie saying there was nothing Raya could have done for the goal as if it was a worldie is pathetic.
Let's all face it and accept this.
I don't see us progressing well if we don't Change our playing style. This passing the ball is not giving us any positive outcome. We have become very predictable. We can't penetrate the opposition defense through the center.
Now many teams have mastered our tactics. Why don't we change.
Saka is capable of scoring form outside the box.
It's just frustrating copying pep style of play. Why not have our own style of play.
Ask yourself we don't have quick passing and passing with intention to score.
Chelsea is playing very fast forward passes that have a very positive outcome.
Sad to see arteta being so ridgit and not being bold enough to re invent. His unique style of play.
Player ratings not for everyone. If it was Magalhaes, the rating was gonna be 6, but becoz its Kiwior the rating is 3. Last time against Newcastle both the CBs got good ratings. He said, " That was a quality cross from Gordon. We can't blame them." 😂😂 But he is very harsh on Kiwior. We lost 1-0
Kiwior at center back gives me the shivers to be honest. Just like zinny on the left.
Up the reds😂❤❤
Rice has no final third output, start Merino
r u a liverpool fan man gets assists from many corners he is not theproblem
I was thinking the same or give more minutes to Nwaneri !!!!
Robbie is being harsh on Kiwior; the movement was great from the striker. Scapegoat
why was the interview cut short?
My player ratings
Raya-5 2 shots on target one went by him, barely had anything to do
Partey- 5 defended well but didn't help saka at all up front
Saliba- 7 defended well as usual + goal
Kiwior- 3 let his man go right by him for the goal
Timber- 5 couldn't help the attack leaving kiwior alone, did his def duties well
Jorginho- 6 didn't do anything wrong, didn't go anything great
Rice- 7 covered a lot of ground, passing and crosses created chances nobody took
Odegaard- 6 played ok but Fulham didn't give him time on the ball, smothered him every time he got the ball
Saka-6 same as Odegaard, double teamed and had no overlap/support
Havertz-5 non-existent besides the assist
Trossard-3 selfish/lazy performance
Jesus-3 did nothing
Nwaneri- 5 not much time to make a difference
Merino-5 barely noticed him
Martinelli- 4 got a stupid yellow
It is not Arteta, but the Kronkes who are reluctant to strengthen the team
@AFTVmedia - ratings for FFC 1 AFC 1 : raya 7, partey 6 saliba 8 kiwior 3 timber 7, jorginho 7 rice 7 odegaard 6, saka 7 havertz 5 trossard 4 SUBS nwaneri 5 merino 6 martinelli 5 jesus 4. ARTETA n/a
Partey header miss
Kai shot miss
Rice overshooting
Martinelli offside
Saka last second goofy pass to Leno
We cannot be champions when we routinely do such things. Champions are near perfect and we don’t play as best perfect team.
If Arsenal don’t get a striker in January is disgraceful to the fans and the club. It’s there in black and white! We won’t win anything this season without a proper striker.
Remember when Robbie was freaking out over Bissouma non-signing? Can’t take these guys too serious
Robbie again . Saying Saliba is flawless . I thought he could have done bit better for the goal we have conceded. 😮😮😮😮. He also so dominating that when Lee have different ratings he forced him to change
My ratings;
Raya 7, Partey 6 because he's not a right back, Saliba 8, Kiwior 5, Timber 6, Jorginho 6, Rice 5, Odegaard 6, Saka 7, Havertz 5, Trossard 4.
Subs;
Jesus 2, Martinelli 2, Nwaneri not enough time, Merino not enough time.
Arteta 4 bad team selection, stop playing Partey out of position.
7’s for most, for that! Nonsense!
Raya - 7
Partey - 6
Saliba - 7
Kiwior - 4
Timber - 6
Jorginho - 6
Rice - 7
Odegaard - 5
Saka - 5
Trossard - 4
Havertz - 5
Jesus - 3
Other Subs - 5
Odegaard better not be playing through a knock
Havertz was not average at all bro, he’s was 100% below average
Odegaard was absolutely rubbish
When Arsenal decide to play Havertz Upfront .. I know for a fact they not wining the League .. Havertz give u a glimpse of top class talent in some game .. but goes missing in majority of the game .. and what worse Arsenal only got Jesus as a backup striker .. is like they are not serious to winning the League ...
Saliba probably should have stopped the goal but overall he was brilliant
Havertz should be changed for Jésus. Havertz lacks creativity
Why wrap up really quickly?
Can someone tell me the last time Rice made a run INTO the box? I’ll wait.
Didn't he almost get on the end of a Saka cross? But yeah, 100 mil for him was too much. Fuck that English tax
is he an attacking midfielder? Why ask that
Odegaard has been giving away the ball way too much.
Raya 7, Partey 6, Sablia 8, Kiwior 6, Timber 8, Joringho 7, Rice 8, Odegaard 6, Saka 8, Havertz 6, Martineli 6.
You need to understand we will win nothing with Havertz, Untill there is a proper striker we will not win a thing, he brings the rest of the team down. I’m amazed you don’t see this
Can't put it all this on Kiwior, he played decent besides the goal. Martinelli, Havertz, Partey, Jesus and Ode all had shockers. Rice only one who did his job at Cottage.
Partey played better than all of them ,watch TV and stop watching graphics mate
@kennyKelvins I watched the whole game and I regret it, get some glasses old man
jorghino was like a 1, looked half dead on that pitch
By these scores you guys saying it's Saka fault the goal didn't stand 😮
Why arsenal can''t comeback in a match like Liverpool, chelsea. They should discuss about it.
Rice was the one that was constantly trying to make things happen, def MOTM
Maybe if we sell them more players they will beat us. Apparently 4 aren't enough
Havertz max 2, goal assist only thing he did all game!! Martinelli max 3 minus 1 for being offside. 2.
Lee is so generous when it comes to rating havertz, he’s been terrible
Robbie always give good ratings to Saliba, Rice, Odegaard and Saka no matter what. He defends them. But others are just trash
Why did they have to cut the players ratings?
Watch the goal again Robbie . Saliba could have blocked that dipped his toe instead of lunge block .
Raya - 7
Partey - 6
Saliba - 9
Kiwior - 4
Timber - 7
Jorginho - 7
Rice - 9 MOTM
Ødegaard - 6
Saka - 7
Havertz - 5
Trossard - 6
Martinelli - 4
Merino - 6
Nwaneri - 5
Jesus - 4
Arteta - 6
Few day ago arsenal fan counting game where Liverpool will drop point but completely forgot arsenal will not winning every game until GW38. Now Chelsea quietly over take as tittle battle enter crucial busy period 😅😅
Martinelli is lacking big time. Jesus is defunct. The whole team are out of ideas. I have watched lesser teams play more open and expansive football. Its worrying. The need for silverware has never been so vital.
Really don't want see Partey in RB. He still best in DM.
If we get a proper manager, tomiyasu, Kai, zincheko, kivio, JESUS, jorginho, clear them out bring in some young proper athletes,
Lee was being biased to players he likes
Haven’t was awful. 4 at max
Odegaard was average. 5 at max
Martinelli- terrible
@AFTVmedia - Lee Judges in player ratings video " he's done Ok " !!!
Give me nuno espirito santo as manager and chris wood and i guarantee Arsenal win the league next season!
I think we overate our team a bit. We just don’t have the killer instinct. The almost team. The title is pretty much over. Let’s not kid ourselves.
*Kiwior 3? What rubbish is this? He had a good game. Had that been Gabriel there wouldn't be this much outcry from the likes of Robbie. When Califiori and Gabriel let a pass through to AWB against West Ham for them to score, you lot were quiet. Noone gave them 3s or 4s in the ratings. But you want to scapegoat Kiwior, pathetic*
All those superchats, you can’t get a portable charger?
Arsenal should bring a good striker within this jannuary /25