EVERY interaction between them is gold. The I told you so bit, his look of absolute bewilderment as Linus says to put a zip tie on a hose shoved inside another hose. EVERYTHING they did was just perfection
groaning in "kyle" is exactly what i do every time i see someone i know try to put in a stereo or fix their car. i just SMH and get my tools to fix their screwup haha.
Why did they install the most expensive GPU in the world before they made sure their janky water cooling contraption worked in the first place? I'm speechless.
Hose clamps def should've been utilized here. Not only for performance over zip ties, but for the whole aesthetic/theme of car components/hardware meets PC components/hardware.
@@Sadamoto6 lol. Oh no dont get me wrong, im no where close to implying zip ties arent great for cars. Im merely saying on something small where the aesthetic is using something from a car as a mod, it would add to the aesthetic to use something that is also used primarily on that part. i.e. hose clamp on the rad. Just makes the mod that much more dope. But yea, i mean, have you ever actually worked on cars if you haven't used zip ties at some point? lol
God I love these types of videos. By far one of my favourite styles of video from LTT. I just love imagining someone pitching this idea and everyone being like "that sounds stupid, let's do it." Whenever engineers get free reign to do whatever they want you either end up with something amazing or at least some great content. Keep it up guys!
Hey LTT, i know im a bit late to this video so this comment may not be seen. I'm a Lead Engineer at a company that produces thermal solutions for Automotive, Industrial, medical and White goods. these include resistance wire heating, PTC heating, and Peltier cooler. a lot of my job includes things like fan selection. A tip which might help for these kind of experiments in the future is on fan positioning. if you place 2 fans next to eachother you double the volumetric air flow but the static pressure is the same. BUT, if you place 2 fans ontop of eachother you double the static pressure but the volumetric airflow stays the same. so for each layer of fans you add you should see a linear increase in static pressure. Also a suggestion for a future test: you have looked at direct contact peltier cooling but i think there may be a test which could produce potentially favourable results. Thermoelectric coolers in industry specialise in cooling a closed system with no intake or exhaust. if you took out the intake and exhaust of a PC case and installed a thermoelectric cooler so there is air circulation inside the case but no air leaks. the cooler acts as a heatpump removing energy. With one of these coolers with you could expect ambient temperatures within the case to be sub zero. This is how they are used in industrial cooling applications including IP rated electronic cabinets. I don't know if links work in youtube comments but google DBK coolers, we have an office in USA. www.dbk-group.co.uk/peltier-cooler Keep up the good work! these are my favourite types of videos!
My first watercooling was with heater core from an old Opel. Fitted perfectly over the PSU in the old "full tower" style case, where there were plenty of room behind all those 5.25" bays (and I used those excess of 5.25" slots for a tupperware where I have submerged the aquarium pump) ..of course the dimensions prevented me to install that core to roof or back of the case, but having it so that the air path was from side of the case to other side of the case, it worked quite well. Also, when I built that, all the computer fans were like maximum of 80mm, so I got two thick 12cm 12V fans from an old photocopying machine and those made enough static pressure for the core. I dont remember what clocks I got with my K6-2 and my athlons/athlon xp's, but I remember I managed to run my Opteron 185 at 3.35GHz quite comfortably. The tension bar what I used to mount my block was nicely compatible with socket 7, socket A and also socket 939.
My first liquid cooled system used an Eheim pond pump and a transmission cooler with an electrical box as a reservoir, stuffed into a mid-tower case. I still have it! I miss the old days of overclocking and this video was incredibly nostalgic.
Linus using wrong or slightly incorrect parts is very relatable. Many times I use whatever I can find around the house to make a project work and sometimes it's not perfect, but it turns out well enough. Never stop doing this LTT.
@@Idiomatick My compressor has a cylinder base gasket made from a milk carton. Has been working for years. It was supposed to be temporary but you know how those things go.
This brings back memories. That's what I used way back when for my first water cooling setup. I built a custom box that I bolted to the bottom of my case to house it, the fans and the pump (Eheim 1046, of course). The waterblock was a Dangerden.. something, I don't remember, but it was just a big ol block of copper. It worked great. It even got featured on HardOCP somehow. And now I feel old thinking about how many years ago that was... ugh.
1999 sick ass mod checklist: ☑ Hand welded copper block ☑ Junkyard moped radiator ☑ Florescent green engine coolant ☑ Tupperware reservoir ☑ Aquarium pump ☑ Radio Shack 3 way toggle switches ☑ Cold cathode lights & EL wires ☑ Sound-To-Light modulator DIY Kit ☑ 5000RPM fans from China ☑ Milk crate pc case for that LAN crowd
Submersible pump into tupperware which sucked water in from bottom, heatercore from a landrover, quad delta 92mm i stole out of some servers. For bench runs i packed one tupperware into a larger one packed with ice and pushed that old Barton. Never seen XP boot so fast! Was pretty fun. Machine would idle with one fan at 5v. I miss it.
I remember getting into liquid cooling right when Danger Den started selling purpose made rads, I still have their original chrome 120mm. I always appreciated the pioneer builds from back then though, car pars, fish tank parts, home made waterblocks made of brass slugs with hand drills, probably used literal garden hose. Today's market is truly an embarrassment of riches Good ep guys, no one has a better "wtf is Linus doing..." face than Kyle
These crazy improvised build videos are literally my favorite LTT content by far. And the comedic moments between linus and alex are great. this is a gold tier episode ngl
This brings back memories. I used a heater core from a 72 Buick or something with a DIY-shroud in my first watercooled build to cool an overclocked Pentium D. It worked great for years.
Yep, that sorta setup was very much like my first water cooling setup in high-school. Ganked the core out of a dead Holden at the tip. A very used pond pump, and a beefy 240v fan from some industrial hardware. A water block made in my school metal shop. Reservoir was a tupperware container I stole from the kitchen. All the fittings were irrigation fittings from the shed. The whole contraption was obnoxiously loud. So, installed it in an old At case I cut down to fit the core dimensions. Handles on the top of that and the PC were handles from the car, painted to match. The noise solution, long pipes, and put the noisy box outside my bedroom window. Everyone thought I was insane, your putting WATER in a COMPUTER??! got some insane overclocks😊
Here's a tech tip Linus: use a little bit of rubbing alcohol as lubricant to slide the tube further on... It will evaporate later and you'll be golden 😎
@@nyanpasu64 Not all hand Sanitizer does, some of it is as thin as IPA, but the gel kind sure does, and it might be a bit iffy to use it, and I learned the hard way years ago, and left a bottle of hand gel in my ex's car on a very hot day in the cup holder, and it exploded all over the place with me spending part of an afternoon cleaning her car, so it can also exploded under heat, and pressure, so if the gel does not evaporate under the tube there is a very slight risk of explosion, or just popping off if the tube gets too hot, and is on the fitting very tightly.
@@nyanpasu64 some do, I left one sitting on top of my fridge for a year and air got in, it reduced and morphed into a solid clear mass. Whenever I used it, I felt like I had a film layer of crap on my hands, and when washing them later it would come off.
I always thought people living in freezing places like alaska could just pipe outside air to their pc cases and then pipe out the hot air No extra modifications, just letting below zero air going into the case, but isolating the case from the rest of the room of course, so people dont get their rooms full of freezing air Or maybe even leave the pc separated from the room, kinda like people put the AC evaporators outside of the house, you'd just have the pc out, yes, with protection from the snow and the elements, and stuck very well into the wall so no thief yoinks it out Maybe even build the pc inside of an AC case so people think its an AC when its actually a pc getting infinite free cooling from the harsh polar climate
@@cupuacu4life13ve thought about that too, but you don't want to heat cold humid air from outside inside your PC though, what I have thought about is you just put the radiator or radiators outside but of course you have to protect them somehow from the harsh environment and depending how cold it gets you may want to use antifreeze (also you don't want to let it go that cold). But I don't live in a cold enough place to try this. It could also work if your PC is close to a side of your home that's always colder
@@ltio4619 No. There is no static pressure with these fans only air flow. They work by sucking more air through the hole in the middle so if you block that with a radiator it wouldn't work anymore.
As a mechanic whos had to force hoses over fittings that were "too big". It is alot easier to boil water and use the hot water to soften the hose and cause it to expand. You get alot more hose to soften and expand at once rather than using a heat gun which only heats one side at a time and can cause the hose to burn. Also stick the Heater core in a freezer or bucket of ice to get it to contract some making the process slightly easier. ***Edit. Also while sticking a smaller hose into a bigger hose you can ensure it not leaking by putting in a hose connector for the smaller hose, then just use a band clamp or zip tie to tighten around the connector
I love building my own water cooling! I even made my own water block out of a chunk of copper back in the mid 90's that I still use today. I used a heater core from a 1984 Escort and an oil cooler. They were stack mounted on the top of the case and run in series. I custom painted the case in red and black diagonal stripes and the interior was painted florescent green with a black light inside and florescent dye in the water. I took it to U of M lan party and everyone was amazed that someone actually water cooled a computer. Good Times!
If you are getting your parts from a junk yard for the build. Old E39\E38 BMW's (5 & 7 Series from 97-03) have a secondary water pump that is electric you can pick up for pennies.
Well you can always just use automotive coolant, since a lot of vehicles have cast iron engine blocks, aluminum heads, probably an aluminum radiator and a copper/aluminum heater core… I’ve been using aluminum radiators in my pc’s with EK blocks for several years and haven’t had any problems, plus you can get engine coolant in just about any color…
As they said, most heater cores today are made of aluminum, as well as radiator and other parts. Steel isn't very reactive with aluminum and overall cuts cost from the engineering side. More than that, the tightest spaces water flows through still are much wider than a computer's water block fin. So much so that my car runs cooling in plain tap water and it has no leaks or cooling issues, and the car itself is 15 years old with only one radiator change due to a car accident ages ago. Also, car coolant is no different from computer coolant; there is no reason to be except for the propylene glycol, since PCs don't get hot or cold enough to need it.
So, as it turns out, this is nearly exactly what I did for my water cooling. I do have PC parts, 240mm rad, 50 dollar PC water pump. The rest is constant pressure automotive clamps, silicone tubing, eBay water block, semi-custom mounting bracket. i think I spent 200 after all was said and done, and the system handles approx 250Wish of CPU heat. FX-8350 oc'd to 4.8GHz @ 1.365v. CPU will hit 0C thermal margin with 96F water temps while encoding video on CPU alone. Setup includes Nidec VA450DC x7, including one with a shroud pointed directly at VRM. Of course the Thermaltake Core X9 makes fitment infinitely easier. The biggest thermal limitation on my current setup is the CPU HS to water block interface. Also running distilled water with silver coil and a couple drops of dawn soap.
Before watching this vid I'm gonna say I did this stuff almost 25 years ago. It was the release of the celeron 300a, probably the best value overclocking cpu in history. Capable of a rock stable 50% overclock allowing it to out perform the leading PII 450 costing 10x as much thanks to the celeron's on die cache running at full bus speed vs the PII's larger off die cache running at 1/2 bus speed. Water block was a 5/8" thick copper block cross drilled and plugged, car transmission fluid cooler from the auto parts store for the rad, fountain pump from the hardware store, large plastic electric junction box for a reservoir, and plastic tubing from the hardware store. This setup work well and the over clock was rock stable with reasonable temps. Mobo was an ABIT BE-6II. I still have the homemade water block in a box somewhere in my storage room upstairs. EDIT: No Linus, we did not pull parts from junkyard cars to do this. You can buy these parts new at the auto parts store. And we, or at least the crew I communicated with on the OC message boards at the time, did not use heater cores. We used aftermarket transmission fluid coolers. They were far better suited to the job. We also used fountain pumps due to the afore mentioned head pressure issues. We also used those crazy big full tower cases for these mods. You're in the right church but the wrong pew. You have the right idea but the wrong parts. You also have the wrong idea about why we did this. It wasn't to save money, it was because there was literally no other option. Commercial water cooling kits, not to mention AIO's, didn't exist. So homebrewing your own water cooling was necessary if you wanted to use water cooling. I am literally having brain pain watching you guys do this. For the amazing smart group of people you have assembled there you are doing this all the hard way and it's making my eye twitch lol.
I would love to see LTT Labs test and compare radiators from various brands against each other. HWL, EK, Alphacool, Barrow, Bykski, etc. and also if there is a way to test the quality of the nickle plating on the blocks of each brand.
ek has the better rads alpha cool has the better blocks is the normal conversation among watercooled builds but i would love that video compare blocks and rads hell tubing might even make a difference for all we know
12:00 He is right you know... for the amount of temp tube setup you guys do. just get him the zip tie gun. you can also use it to wire manage your network cables in the server rooms and conduits.
Next you need to build a shared radiator solution with hot swappable water feeds so that a bunch of PC's (or laptops) can use the same cooling system. The radiator could even be on the office roof.
I personally use this type of cooling every day based on two heaters from Fiat Ducato from 1994-2001, bought brand new for $20 each as a replacement for the original. They are denser than yours and both are mounted on top of a homemade case hanging on the wall and cooled by a total of three 20cm fans, 1.5 fans each (left fan is driven by the graphics, right by the CPU and the middle one is the system fan). The whole thing cools like a chimney, because the computer draws air from the bottom and expels warm air at the top, and the 20cm fans are almost inaudible during everyday gaming. Theoretically, if water at a temperature of 90°C were supplied to them, each of these coolers would be able to give 3kW of heat to the environment, so the whole thing has a lot of reserve.
18:13 kyle silently looks at camera in exasperation and laughter. then linus, unknowingly and independently, silently looks at camera AS the exasperater. unbeatable dynamic
depends on the vehicle. on a chevy express you can turn the fan completely off on the highway, and the high pressure zone on the cowl area where the fresh air intake is, caused by the chevy express being shaped like a barn, will push almost as much air through the vents as the fan would on high.
I love how they mix fluids, copper, and aluminum on engines. Then you get green scuzz forming everywhere. Old engines mostly used iron and steel, but new engines use as much aluminum as possible. Even using the right fluids allows the copper to sacrifice itself, and the iron/steel parts do the same. Yay aluminum!
Kyle disassociating while Linus talks is a mood and a half. I do the same thing when my boss doesn’t shut up and let me work 😂 Also, when your boss is too lazy to walk to get the right parts, you know you found the right guy to work for 😉
Memories of great fun had decades ago. Water blocks made from stock heatsinks and JB Weld. Small engine radiators plastered with 92mm fans were boss. Outdoor water pumps for small yard ponds were what's up. Reservoirs made from PVC pipe and caps. A buddy hard lined his system with CPVC, LOL! Biggest difference was we kept everything but the tubes and blocks outside the chassis and building a proper loop took weeks! We had one Celeron 500 running that ran at 2200mhz. Ah, I so miss the good old days, for sure!
"It's from a 69 Camaro!"...still could be new. I worked in a shop for a summer that is one of the last places that still manufactures classic radiators like that. 1 machine for the tube walls, 1 for the fins and a huge shallow solder bath to solder the faces together all at once. Interesting place.
I loved how it felt like Linus was in his element with the tubing. I hope the change in role gives him more time for this kind of thing. For example - what would Linus have made for himself with the budget he has now but the parts that were available right before he started with NCIX Tech Tips?
I like DIY cooling videos :) Did a DIY watercooling setup for my laptop, the " base station" uses an 12V aquarium pump submerged in a big beer glass, the radiator is a brand new heat- exchanger from a Fiat van because it was cheap, has convinient connections and fits two 200mm Noctua fans. The back panel of the laptop is replaced by a alumium cover that holds down waterblocks over the heatpipes of the CPU and GPU. The waterblocks are in series and quick couplers on the site for easy mobile use, the original air setup of the laptop still functions if the waterccoling isnt connected, I use window washing antifreeze as liquid. Looks awkward but its not stupid if it works :) Those 200mm Noctuas create good pressure through the radiator and the 18W Aquarium pump has way more flow than any PC waterpump could provide. I use some clear garden hose that has strength lining inisde it, that clear stuff Linus uses hear kinks too easy. But I needed to overbuilt it because my waterblocks are touching the laptops original heatpipes and not any heatspreaders directly. But even under full load the temps stay better than the air setup in the laptop could ever be.
I've used 4 row heat exchangers meant for furnaces for DIY pc coolers quite successfully. You can get them for about $60 new and are a lot more adaptable on the fittings portion than automobile bits. Fountain pumps are also quite cheap and accessible; server fans can be had for $20 and provide more than enough pressure (albeit quite loud at full tilt) to push through a chunky cooler, but you can run them either directly off the motherboard or in PWM mode with a controller (the preferred method in combination with a fan curve).
In Finland we used to use radiators from mopeds, not heater cores. They don't need as much static pressure, they're made for cooling, they have smaller fittings and they were cheaper.
I still love how every time they do a build, we rely on hoping the screen turns on to make sure it fully POSTS and doesn't die. We need one video with a pcspkr on the board for that "BEEEEP" to make sure it's on
Should have used a transmission cooler. They come in many sizes and are near identical to PC rads. They come in copper units and some aluminum rads are powder coated inside. They come with the same fitting sizes as PC rads. Have you ever tried cooling with hydraulic fluid or mineral oil while using these rads so you don't have the issue of mixed metal electrolysis? Seams to me it would work as well as water. As long as you used oil resistant parts and hoses.
don't forget the pump would have to be insanely powerful due to how viscous glycol/mineral oil are, plus their specific heat capacity isn't as good as water so increasing flow rate would be mandatory, so that's gonna be one loud-ass pump
@@squidwardo7074 typically yeah, there may be some that aren't because the range is pretty vast due to how broad the use cases are, such as an aircraft landing gear vs a kitchen cupboard, so it can range from as thin as diesel to as thick/thicker than caramel. idk of any that are less viscous than water though (unless you count freon, alcohol, ammonia, mercury, gasoline; though then the safety of using them and their boiling points etc. come into play [and obviously gasoline/alcohol being explosive under pressure, hence how petrol/ethanol engines don't need spark plugs])
Car Guy Here... A cars heater core ISNT at the front of the vehicle. Its under the dash, inside the cabin. It has two coolant hoses that run FROM the engine, through the firewall, into the cabin where the heater core is located. It recirculates hot engine coolant to heat up the core.. it uses your cabin air blower (same blower the AC uses) to blow that hot air through the vents. BAM. Automotive Heater.
11:26 I am dying, pure Comedy. Also did you think about Team Red, blue and Green Version of the screwdriver? Could also have a Double meaning with Pokemon and the manufacturers.
Oh, those nice times... I did such a thing myself that time! - If you go to a junkyard for a heater core, ask the owner/seller, and they give you a proper size one. (I could buy a brass one that was exactly 120x360mm, with 1/2" pipes) - Please use proper hose clamps! They are cheap, made of metal this will not expand even if they heat up - The aquarium pump was definitely the weakes link in this setup the impeller inside broke like every year and it did not have any RPM feedback - I had to go to a machine shop and let them make my CPU block. And yes, it was brazed. - I also made a custom reservoir from brass anf 4mm plastic tube. - That time 120mm, 3 pin fan was non existent - I made a cute wooden box for the radiator, that was sitting on top of the case - It was a reliable system. Even when the pump impellers broke, it did not completely stop cooling. Just some higher temps were the symptom. Once it ran without the pump for a week. (inspite it was cooling a 3GHz Pentium 4, which has been really hot) - Today, we have all the needed stuff available from Aliexpress, so it is not really necessary to struggle this much with such a setup. I am sure, you can even get a full custom setup for about the price of that AIO, that you only have to assemble, and no craftmanship is needed at all.
In the 2000s I used a radiator used in house heating to cool my Celeron 2 566 running on 1200MHz. It was passively cooled. (until one FET on my Abit motherboard decided to blow off making my room foggy suddenly). I used a car radiator too one time. And radiators from air conditioners too. I even made my own water block for cpu, vrm and GPU too.
who needs central heating when your CPU+GPU cap out at putting out 700W, which is the equivalent of 2100 BTUs, i.e. enough for 2x small rooms or 1x large? somehow put your partner's 150W TV and your 100W monitor in the loop for another 1000 BTU and that's a whole small house or medium flat when you add the fact the human body produces a further 250-600 BTU. (just hope you enjoy cold showers)
I built one of these back in the early 2000s using the heater core from a Suzuki car. My temps stayed rock solid no matter how much load I put on it. I used a 5 1/4 Bay reservoir. The best thing about heater cores is that they have a higher flow through the internal water channels
Use outdoor pond pumps, they're meant for long lines and head pressure. Those indoor pumps are cheaply made, you cannot replace the impeller (which most outdoor ones can), and fail quite a lot if they're under some load. They're just not meant for that. Ends up making the price be a bit deceiving, as you'd be replacing the indoor pump every couple months or so which would put your budget pretty unreasonable. Not to mention if viewers tried that and had a failure resulting in damage, the outdoor pond pumps are just a MUCH better option. It's one huge issue with a lot of these videos, it's a great option if you're planning to run something for a few weeks, but many of them fail to take into account longevity and failures which are pretty likely in a few months or so with certain setups I've seen.
this might be the most fun video you guys put out in a while. Not that I'm saying the others are bad, but this one was great! I love these janky custom build videos!
That reminds me so much of the time I built my first water cooling in the late 1990s. Although I had to make my own cooling block at school's metal works. I also remember sanding the die against a glass to smooth it out, when the CPU costed way more than I had ever had money in my life. You could get those Celeron 300A's to double their frequency :)
Linus: Camera time is expensive. Also Linus when he even gets near Alex: I can make this work the super jank way, what you talking about. Everyone watch this... As much as I adore watching the chaos in action, I am firmly with Kyle on this though. Sure, that AIO is expensive. But it just works. I don't want to have to lose my sanity trying to jank up a more effective custom solution. Even with professionally made parts that fit together properly. The AIO's true value is peace of mind and ease of installation and use. And IMO is worth every extra cent because of it.
Linus: "If you're finding yourself asking, WTF did I just watch?". Linus are you kidding us?! I know I'm not alone when I say that one of the many reasons I watch and love your content is because of vids like this. Watching you guys do ridiculous shit with and to computers is great entertainment and is also informational. Please keep it coming with this type of content. You guys are awesome! Edit: Watching it again, I noticed the two Vaseline jars "holding up" the ginormous fucking fan. Bahaha amazing!!
Remember, being able to buy off-the-shelf watercooling components (pumps, radiators, reservoires, blocks, etc.) wasn't a thing until later. Blocks were extremely basic, pumps were aquarium pumps, reservoires were often just bottles and radiators were actually from cars. So if you were going to watercool a PC in the early to mid 2000's, you had to do something similar to this. Oh, and fans optimized for static pressure weren't a thing, so you had to run your stock fans at high RPMs to force suffient air through the radiator.
Linus, almost all heat exchangers outside of the PC world run mixed metals, including that probably brass and copper Camaro heating core you are using. Even the PC ones that claim to be all copper are mixed metal, because most of the pumps have steel impellers and blocks are nickel coated. Run any metals you want with a type B automotive coolant. Change the fluid every 5 years. I have never had pitting or corrosion like this. Don't use type A coolant, its less effective and can react with some plastics. We used to run the Honda civic aluminium half rads like this, it's no problem. Think about it, cars run brass and copper heater cores through steel mesh reinforced pipes into aluminium radiators that put water through iron blocks. And they will run for decades.
I have out in my garage an all cooper heater core that is maybe 9 inch by 6 inches by 2 inches thick. Its super small. I got it from a junk dealer many years ago to try a small project where I filled up a old cistern and pumpped water in to that small core to provide some cooling for a small house I had. It worked to some degree and the cistern leaked so it just could not hold the water long enough. I think if I was going to do the project again I would do something entirely else.
Thanks for listening to my comment! I've been on a huge nostalgia kick lately and your car radiator video had me going on the water cooling stuff we used to do.
This was a killer experiment. The only thing would be to actually clean out the radiator well. Just running some hot, soapy water through for a while would at least do something. Even with better fans and cpu block, still a good deal, and as said, ease of maintenance is a huge win. Unlike the AIO systems that you just throw the entire thing away if one thing breaks. Potentially, this could be a really high performance cooling system, for same or less money. Surprised it took so long to try it, but glad to finally see the results! Thanks guys.
It was fun to watch you guys build that system. I remember building jank water cooling systems like this back in the day, before the AIO units were on the market. Tons of fun!
ZIP TIE GUN! ZIP TIE GUN! 😀 I'm positive if you bought that zip tie gun and then filmed a video entirely just you wandering around the office zip-tying things with reckless abandon, we'd all happily watch that video.
It's funny that Kyle tries to be a voice for reason and still goes along with the plan. Need to have more videos like this with him and Alex.
He still needs more time in LTT to become like Alex and embrace the jank, become one with it.
I get the feeling that Kyle is an engineer that makes things, where as Alex is an engineer that makes things work...
10:23 is proof he's a wise man
EVERY interaction between them is gold. The I told you so bit, his look of absolute bewilderment as Linus says to put a zip tie on a hose shoved inside another hose. EVERYTHING they did was just perfection
The voice of reason thats still corruptible, lol
Sometimes, it appears that Kyle thinks he works in a real place, and not this wonderful chaos lol. Great work!
groaning in "kyle" is exactly what i do every time i see someone i know try to put in a stereo or fix their car. i just SMH and get my tools to fix their screwup haha.
Yeah! If he's going to work in chaos let him have the zip tie gun! :P
His face was all of us during so many of the "redneck" builds on this channel lol
Ugh I'd kill to get a job with the guys
Absolutely love Kyle slowly losing his mind while Alex and Linus are just having the time of their lives.
Yeah, it even looks like his genuine opinion to their work
My god. The combo of Linus, Alex, and Kyle is the most amazingly chaotic jankfest I've ever seen. I love this.
I am up for as much Alex + Kyle content as they can produce.
it'd be more jank without Kyle
It's the holy trinity
The Alex and Kyle: Chaos Enginners duo has to be one of my new favorite dynamics of LTT.
You might could say they're in search of incredible lol
Kyle an Alex are funny af when Linus doesn't agree
@@fateunleashed9680 Well, Asus sure as hell havent found it yet.
Kyles concern for the 4090 throughout the install was heartwarming
It seemed to be less worried about the 4090, and more the 4090 being ruined during a project he was involved in.
Definitely. It contrasts nicely with the total disregard of Linus aka Dropper of expensive technology.
To linus, it's a line item on an expense report, to Kyle, it's most of a month's salary.
@@jttech44 you mean like a week of a salary
Why did they install the most expensive GPU in the world before they made sure their janky water cooling contraption worked in the first place?
I'm speechless.
Seeing these three work together is like watching Hammond, May, and Clarkson work together on a car
LINUS! YOU'VE BACKED INTO THE POSTMODERN MEMES!
@@jrshaul He speaks like a 15 year old girl from 1996 and I hate it so much and so irrationally that it scares me .
who?
Yes. Love that energy.
Nah, you know Clarkson never actually 'works' on anything. lol
I love the dynamic Kyle brings to these kinds of videos! He fits very well with the vibe of Linus and Alex
Hose clamps def should've been utilized here. Not only for performance over zip ties, but for the whole aesthetic/theme of car components/hardware meets PC components/hardware.
They should of tried an aftermarket tranny cooler or oil cooler. They have a much more reasonable size
Idk, I probably have more zip ties on my rally car than hose clamps tbh. 😂
I’m fairly sure my wrx is structurally together only because zip ties
@@Sadamoto6 lol. Oh no dont get me wrong, im no where close to implying zip ties arent great for cars. Im merely saying on something small where the aesthetic is using something from a car as a mod, it would add to the aesthetic to use something that is also used primarily on that part. i.e. hose clamp on the rad. Just makes the mod that much more dope. But yea, i mean, have you ever actually worked on cars if you haven't used zip ties at some point? lol
Also, because it's supposed to be vaguely functional, hose clamps are the better choice.
God I love these types of videos. By far one of my favourite styles of video from LTT. I just love imagining someone pitching this idea and everyone being like "that sounds stupid, let's do it." Whenever engineers get free reign to do whatever they want you either end up with something amazing or at least some great content. Keep it up guys!
Additionally, I love seeing Alex building his usual janky and stupid builds while Kyle is incredibly concerned, yet still going along with the plan.
Hey LTT, i know im a bit late to this video so this comment may not be seen. I'm a Lead Engineer at a company that produces thermal solutions for Automotive, Industrial, medical and White goods. these include resistance wire heating, PTC heating, and Peltier cooler. a lot of my job includes things like fan selection.
A tip which might help for these kind of experiments in the future is on fan positioning. if you place 2 fans next to eachother you double the volumetric air flow but the static pressure is the same. BUT, if you place 2 fans ontop of eachother you double the static pressure but the volumetric airflow stays the same. so for each layer of fans you add you should see a linear increase in static pressure.
Also a suggestion for a future test: you have looked at direct contact peltier cooling but i think there may be a test which could produce potentially favourable results. Thermoelectric coolers in industry specialise in cooling a closed system with no intake or exhaust. if you took out the intake and exhaust of a PC case and installed a thermoelectric cooler so there is air circulation inside the case but no air leaks. the cooler acts as a heatpump removing energy. With one of these coolers with you could expect ambient temperatures within the case to be sub zero. This is how they are used in industrial cooling applications including IP rated electronic cabinets.
I don't know if links work in youtube comments but google DBK coolers, we have an office in USA. www.dbk-group.co.uk/peltier-cooler
Keep up the good work! these are my favourite types of videos!
My first watercooling was with heater core from an old Opel. Fitted perfectly over the PSU in the old "full tower" style case, where there were plenty of room behind all those 5.25" bays (and I used those excess of 5.25" slots for a tupperware where I have submerged the aquarium pump) ..of course the dimensions prevented me to install that core to roof or back of the case, but having it so that the air path was from side of the case to other side of the case, it worked quite well. Also, when I built that, all the computer fans were like maximum of 80mm, so I got two thick 12cm 12V fans from an old photocopying machine and those made enough static pressure for the core. I dont remember what clocks I got with my K6-2 and my athlons/athlon xp's, but I remember I managed to run my Opteron 185 at 3.35GHz quite comfortably. The tension bar what I used to mount my block was nicely compatible with socket 7, socket A and also socket 939.
What a combo. Anything with Kyle is gold, the back and forth with him and Linus, and throwing the jank that Alex usually runs with.. chefs kiss
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My first liquid cooled system used an Eheim pond pump and a transmission cooler with an electrical box as a reservoir, stuffed into a mid-tower case. I still have it! I miss the old days of overclocking and this video was incredibly nostalgic.
I love this. I'm old enough to remember hearing about people doing this stuff but never did it myself. Very cool to see this from a modern perspective
Linus using wrong or slightly incorrect parts is very relatable. Many times I use whatever I can find around the house to make a project work and sometimes it's not perfect, but it turns out well enough. Never stop doing this LTT.
My bath/shower valve/selector is fitted with a milk tab when a part broke.... the milk tab solution is around 4yrs old now.
@@Idiomatick My compressor has a cylinder base gasket made from a milk carton. Has been working for years.
It was supposed to be temporary but you know how those things go.
This brings back memories. That's what I used way back when for my first water cooling setup. I built a custom box that I bolted to the bottom of my case to house it, the fans and the pump (Eheim 1046, of course). The waterblock was a Dangerden.. something, I don't remember, but it was just a big ol block of copper. It worked great. It even got featured on HardOCP somehow.
And now I feel old thinking about how many years ago that was... ugh.
live fast die young? nah, live cool die old B^)
Ah the old days, when you just mounted your cooler directly to the die of your 1400mhz AMD Tbird.
back.. damn.. 22 years ago.
Ugh indeed
@@LordMithril The one that you minutes earlier had used a pencil on to bridge the pads that let you overclock it :D
1999 sick ass mod checklist:
☑ Hand welded copper block
☑ Junkyard moped radiator
☑ Florescent green engine coolant
☑ Tupperware reservoir
☑ Aquarium pump
☑ Radio Shack 3 way toggle switches
☑ Cold cathode lights & EL wires
☑ Sound-To-Light modulator DIY Kit
☑ 5000RPM fans from China
☑ Milk crate pc case for that LAN crowd
Submersible pump into tupperware which sucked water in from bottom, heatercore from a landrover, quad delta 92mm i stole out of some servers. For bench runs i packed one tupperware into a larger one packed with ice and pushed that old Barton. Never seen XP boot so fast! Was pretty fun. Machine would idle with one fan at 5v. I miss it.
I remember getting into liquid cooling right when Danger Den started selling purpose made rads, I still have their original chrome 120mm. I always appreciated the pioneer builds from back then though, car pars, fish tank parts, home made waterblocks made of brass slugs with hand drills, probably used literal garden hose. Today's market is truly an embarrassment of riches
Good ep guys, no one has a better "wtf is Linus doing..." face than Kyle
These crazy improvised build videos are literally my favorite LTT content by far. And the comedic moments between linus and alex are great. this is a gold tier episode ngl
Wooh, I love that the Jank Duo has expanded more consistently to the Jank Gang! Having both Alex and Kyle on these videos is fantastic!
Kyle losing his sanity is exactly what I needed to keep mine.
Watching the original video with a car radiator nearly gave me an aneurysm.
Kyle and Linus together are pure gold 😂
😀
This brings back memories. I used a heater core from a 72 Buick or something with a DIY-shroud in my first watercooled build to cool an overclocked Pentium D. It worked great for years.
Yep, that sorta setup was very much like my first water cooling setup in high-school. Ganked the core out of a dead Holden at the tip. A very used pond pump, and a beefy 240v fan from some industrial hardware. A water block made in my school metal shop. Reservoir was a tupperware container I stole from the kitchen. All the fittings were irrigation fittings from the shed. The whole contraption was obnoxiously loud. So, installed it in an old At case I cut down to fit the core dimensions. Handles on the top of that and the PC were handles from the car, painted to match. The noise solution, long pipes, and put the noisy box outside my bedroom window. Everyone thought I was insane, your putting WATER in a COMPUTER??! got some insane overclocks😊
Here's a tech tip Linus: use a little bit of rubbing alcohol as lubricant to slide the tube further on... It will evaporate later and you'll be golden 😎
I use hand sanitizer in a pinch.
Does hand sanitizer contain thickening agents that might clog the waterblock?
@@nyanpasu64 Not all hand Sanitizer does, some of it is as thin as IPA, but the gel kind sure does, and it might be a bit iffy to use it, and I learned the hard way years ago, and left a bottle of hand gel in my ex's car on a very hot day in the cup holder, and it exploded all over the place with me spending part of an afternoon cleaning her car, so it can also exploded under heat, and pressure, so if the gel does not evaporate under the tube there is a very slight risk of explosion, or just popping off if the tube gets too hot, and is on the fitting very tightly.
@@nyanpasu64 some do, I left one sitting on top of my fridge for a year and air got in, it reduced and morphed into a solid clear mass. Whenever I used it, I felt like I had a film layer of crap on my hands, and when washing them later it would come off.
We need more of these cooler shenanigans!
It feels like eventually we will get to alternative solutions that might work for us normies... eventually.
I want them to revisit the bong cooler!
Could you use a Dyson style fan for cooling?
I always thought people living in freezing places like alaska could just pipe outside air to their pc cases and then pipe out the hot air
No extra modifications, just letting below zero air going into the case, but isolating the case from the rest of the room of course, so people dont get their rooms full of freezing air
Or maybe even leave the pc separated from the room, kinda like people put the AC evaporators outside of the house, you'd just have the pc out, yes, with protection from the snow and the elements, and stuck very well into the wall so no thief yoinks it out
Maybe even build the pc inside of an AC case so people think its an AC when its actually a pc getting infinite free cooling from the harsh polar climate
@@cupuacu4life13ve thought about that too, but you don't want to heat cold humid air from outside inside your PC though, what I have thought about is you just put the radiator or radiators outside but of course you have to protect them somehow from the harsh environment and depending how cold it gets you may want to use antifreeze (also you don't want to let it go that cold). But I don't live in a cold enough place to try this. It could also work if your PC is close to a side of your home that's always colder
@@ltio4619 No. There is no static pressure with these fans only air flow. They work by sucking more air through the hole in the middle so if you block that with a radiator it wouldn't work anymore.
Get 👏 Kyle 👏 a 👏 ziptie 👏 gun!
Let's just stop for a second and appreciate how Linus saved that falling fan like nothing happened at 1:12. Wow.
As a mechanic whos had to force hoses over fittings that were "too big". It is alot easier to boil water and use the hot water to soften the hose and cause it to expand. You get alot more hose to soften and expand at once rather than using a heat gun which only heats one side at a time and can cause the hose to burn. Also stick the Heater core in a freezer or bucket of ice to get it to contract some making the process slightly easier.
***Edit. Also while sticking a smaller hose into a bigger hose you can ensure it not leaking by putting in a hose connector for the smaller hose, then just use a band clamp or zip tie to tighten around the connector
I love building my own water cooling! I even made my own water block out of a chunk of copper back in the mid 90's that I still use today. I used a heater core from a 1984 Escort and an oil cooler. They were stack mounted on the top of the case and run in series. I custom painted the case in red and black diagonal stripes and the interior was painted florescent green with a black light inside and florescent dye in the water. I took it to U of M lan party and everyone was amazed that someone actually water cooled a computer. Good Times!
Noyce being the 1st w/c pc back in the day ...
We need more chaos, i mean builds from this trio. So fun to watch.
And the nostalgia hits hard with this one. Damn i miss my first watercooling setup.
If you are getting your parts from a junk yard for the build. Old E39\E38 BMW's (5 & 7 Series from 97-03) have a secondary water pump that is electric you can pick up for pennies.
These videos are my favorite. Shenanigans with Linus, Alex and Kyle!
Its a forbidden trio and only when people look away they do stuff like this lpl
More like Kyle dealing with Alex and Linus's shenanigans while being paid to enable it
Kyle is like "nope, nope, no, no, NO!" Love it!
It's genuinely starting to feel like a naff PC version of Top Gear, and I'm fucking for it.
The LAK show
Well you can always just use automotive coolant, since a lot of vehicles have cast iron engine blocks, aluminum heads, probably an aluminum radiator and a copper/aluminum heater core… I’ve been using aluminum radiators in my pc’s with EK blocks for several years and haven’t had any problems, plus you can get engine coolant in just about any color…
Give me engine coolant in neon green pastel cryofuel aurora tinglydingly doodad colour and I’ll be impressed
As they said, most heater cores today are made of aluminum, as well as radiator and other parts. Steel isn't very reactive with aluminum and overall cuts cost from the engineering side. More than that, the tightest spaces water flows through still are much wider than a computer's water block fin.
So much so that my car runs cooling in plain tap water and it has no leaks or cooling issues, and the car itself is 15 years old with only one radiator change due to a car accident ages ago.
Also, car coolant is no different from computer coolant; there is no reason to be except for the propylene glycol, since PCs don't get hot or cold enough to need it.
I use blue window washing fluid in my DIY setup, it also doesnt touch dissimilar metals and is cheaper.
@@wafu6058 about the green pastel cryofuel aurora i have some around but the other part is little harder
A little gunk in your car cooling system isn't a big problem. A little gunk in a cpu block and it's done.
Videos like this are why I watch Linus, I typically know we are on the right track when I see alex co hosting
Please please please get Kyle in more videos. The way he bounces of Linus and Alex is so chaotic and borderline destructive it's amazing
12:08 "ive wasted so much more money than a zip tie gun" just what the boss needs to hear :'D
This is the kind of content that made me love LTT too many years ago. Awesome.
Linus is officially a dad now. Trying to make that 1/2 onto that 3/4 saying "that aint my first rodeo, i used to do it"
11:08 the instant reaction from kyle and linus could not be further apart
Linus: Pog face
Kyle: oh NOOOOOOOOOO
@11:16 omg Kyle's reaction is priceless... the difference between developers and operations
13:31 the brown one would have been even worse
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@@totti1st yes
So, as it turns out, this is nearly exactly what I did for my water cooling. I do have PC parts, 240mm rad, 50 dollar PC water pump. The rest is constant pressure automotive clamps, silicone tubing, eBay water block, semi-custom mounting bracket. i think I spent 200 after all was said and done, and the system handles approx 250Wish of CPU heat. FX-8350 oc'd to 4.8GHz @ 1.365v. CPU will hit 0C thermal margin with 96F water temps while encoding video on CPU alone. Setup includes Nidec VA450DC x7, including one with a shroud pointed directly at VRM. Of course the Thermaltake Core X9 makes fitment infinitely easier. The biggest thermal limitation on my current setup is the CPU HS to water block interface. Also running distilled water with silver coil and a couple drops of dawn soap.
Before watching this vid I'm gonna say I did this stuff almost 25 years ago. It was the release of the celeron 300a, probably the best value overclocking cpu in history. Capable of a rock stable 50% overclock allowing it to out perform the leading PII 450 costing 10x as much thanks to the celeron's on die cache running at full bus speed vs the PII's larger off die cache running at 1/2 bus speed. Water block was a 5/8" thick copper block cross drilled and plugged, car transmission fluid cooler from the auto parts store for the rad, fountain pump from the hardware store, large plastic electric junction box for a reservoir, and plastic tubing from the hardware store. This setup work well and the over clock was rock stable with reasonable temps. Mobo was an ABIT BE-6II. I still have the homemade water block in a box somewhere in my storage room upstairs.
EDIT: No Linus, we did not pull parts from junkyard cars to do this. You can buy these parts new at the auto parts store. And we, or at least the crew I communicated with on the OC message boards at the time, did not use heater cores. We used aftermarket transmission fluid coolers. They were far better suited to the job. We also used fountain pumps due to the afore mentioned head pressure issues. We also used those crazy big full tower cases for these mods.
You're in the right church but the wrong pew. You have the right idea but the wrong parts. You also have the wrong idea about why we did this. It wasn't to save money, it was because there was literally no other option. Commercial water cooling kits, not to mention AIO's, didn't exist. So homebrewing your own water cooling was necessary if you wanted to use water cooling. I am literally having brain pain watching you guys do this. For the amazing smart group of people you have assembled there you are doing this all the hard way and it's making my eye twitch lol.
I would love to see LTT Labs test and compare radiators from various brands against each other. HWL, EK, Alphacool, Barrow, Bykski, etc. and also if there is a way to test the quality of the nickle plating on the blocks of each brand.
ek has the better rads alpha cool has the better blocks is the normal conversation among watercooled builds but i would love that video compare blocks and rads hell tubing might even make a difference for all we know
No, no no no.
Think GM, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Mercedes, Rolls Royce, John Deere, Mack, White Star, Caterpillar.
Think big or go home.
@@richardgarrett2792 lol
12:00 He is right you know... for the amount of temp tube setup you guys do. just get him the zip tie gun. you can also use it to wire manage your network cables in the server rooms and conduits.
I’d love an “Affordable Water Cooling” video. I’ve wanted to do water cooling but it’s always seemed too expensive to be worth the effort
13:25 😂😂😂
I love the extreme levels of jank and the chaotic energy of these videos. This is what Linus does best.
Next you need to build a shared radiator solution with hot swappable water feeds so that a bunch of PC's (or laptops) can use the same cooling system. The radiator could even be on the office roof.
That was done like 10 years ago with the whole room water-cooling
@@xfy123 whoosh
I personally use this type of cooling every day based on two heaters from Fiat Ducato from 1994-2001, bought brand new for $20 each as a replacement for the original. They are denser than yours and both are mounted on top of a homemade case hanging on the wall and cooled by a total of three 20cm fans, 1.5 fans each (left fan is driven by the graphics, right by the CPU and the middle one is the system fan). The whole thing cools like a chimney, because the computer draws air from the bottom and expels warm air at the top, and the 20cm fans are almost inaudible during everyday gaming. Theoretically, if water at a temperature of 90°C were supplied to them, each of these coolers would be able to give 3kW of heat to the environment, so the whole thing has a lot of reserve.
18:13 kyle silently looks at camera in exasperation and laughter. then linus, unknowingly and independently, silently looks at camera AS the exasperater. unbeatable dynamic
Transmission or power steering coolers would work well too. And they are usually smaller and come in way more sizes
But are they made from copper
@@prostegomat only some of them are, and they're usually more expensive options
Heater cores are not exposed to air from the outside rushing past them, they are under your dash inside your car and have a fan blowing on them.
heater cores do get air from outside your car.
depends on the vehicle. on a chevy express you can turn the fan completely off on the highway, and the high pressure zone on the cowl area where the fresh air intake is, caused by the chevy express being shaped like a barn, will push almost as much air through the vents as the fan would on high.
He specifically stated that heater core came from a 69 camero. Those cores and almost every core pre 90s take fresh air from outside.
sometimes they're even inside the firewall and completely inaccessible
Your right. He described a radiator, the heater cor is typically inside the vehicle to heat the inside. The radiator is outside.
"On it boss" Linus should talk to the editors more. That was great
I love how they mix fluids, copper, and aluminum on engines. Then you get green scuzz forming everywhere. Old engines mostly used iron and steel, but new engines use as much aluminum as possible. Even using the right fluids allows the copper to sacrifice itself, and the iron/steel parts do the same. Yay aluminum!
"Why spend more to do it right, when you could spend less to do it jank?"
-- Truly, the official LTT motto. :D
True DIYers usually spend more to do it jank :3
@@KnightMirkoYo But it has 15% better performance.
@@Ren-lx8wv I'd choose DIY any day of the week :3
Kyle disassociating while Linus talks is a mood and a half. I do the same thing when my boss doesn’t shut up and let me work 😂
Also, when your boss is too lazy to walk to get the right parts, you know you found the right guy to work for 😉
Memories of great fun had decades ago. Water blocks made from stock heatsinks and JB Weld. Small engine radiators plastered with 92mm fans were boss. Outdoor water pumps for small yard ponds were what's up. Reservoirs made from PVC pipe and caps. A buddy hard lined his system with CPVC, LOL! Biggest difference was we kept everything but the tubes and blocks outside the chassis and building a proper loop took weeks! We had one Celeron 500 running that ran at 2200mhz. Ah, I so miss the good old days, for sure!
"It's from a 69 Camaro!"...still could be new. I worked in a shop for a summer that is one of the last places that still manufactures classic radiators like that. 1 machine for the tube walls, 1 for the fins and a huge shallow solder bath to solder the faces together all at once. Interesting place.
I loved how it felt like Linus was in his element with the tubing. I hope the change in role gives him more time for this kind of thing. For example - what would Linus have made for himself with the budget he has now but the parts that were available right before he started with NCIX Tech Tips?
This video couldve been recorded months ago
Ik he loves handling tubes
@@ender16th60 too bad he tied his
@@AMalasso what
@@serraramayfield9230 its a joke about Linus getting a vasectomy.
I like DIY cooling videos :) Did a DIY watercooling setup for my laptop, the " base station" uses an 12V aquarium pump submerged in a big beer glass, the radiator is a brand new heat- exchanger from a Fiat van because it was cheap, has convinient connections and fits two 200mm Noctua fans. The back panel of the laptop is replaced by a alumium cover that holds down waterblocks over the heatpipes of the CPU and GPU. The waterblocks are in series and quick couplers on the site for easy mobile use, the original air setup of the laptop still functions if the waterccoling isnt connected, I use window washing antifreeze as liquid. Looks awkward but its not stupid if it works :) Those 200mm Noctuas create good pressure through the radiator and the 18W Aquarium pump has way more flow than any PC waterpump could provide. I use some clear garden hose that has strength lining inisde it, that clear stuff Linus uses hear kinks too easy. But I needed to overbuilt it because my waterblocks are touching the laptops original heatpipes and not any heatspreaders directly. But even under full load the temps stay better than the air setup in the laptop could ever be.
I'm a redneck . I don't have a PC and I have to dust of my laptop once a year to dump my phone photos to it. But here I am subbed to LLT
I've used 4 row heat exchangers meant for furnaces for DIY pc coolers quite successfully. You can get them for about $60 new and are a lot more adaptable on the fittings portion than automobile bits. Fountain pumps are also quite cheap and accessible; server fans can be had for $20 and provide more than enough pressure (albeit quite loud at full tilt) to push through a chunky cooler, but you can run them either directly off the motherboard or in PWM mode with a controller (the preferred method in combination with a fan curve).
Bring on the experiments guys, i seriously enjoy these videos! Go Alex and Kyle!
22:24 the Vaseline supporting the fan 😂
19:30 bold fan choice
In Finland we used to use radiators from mopeds, not heater cores. They don't need as much static pressure, they're made for cooling, they have smaller fittings and they were cheaper.
I still love how every time they do a build, we rely on hoping the screen turns on to make sure it fully POSTS and doesn't die. We need one video with a pcspkr on the board for that "BEEEEP" to make sure it's on
Should have used a transmission cooler. They come in many sizes and are near identical to PC rads. They come in copper units and some aluminum rads are powder coated inside. They come with the same fitting sizes as PC rads. Have you ever tried cooling with hydraulic fluid or mineral oil while using these rads so you don't have the issue of mixed metal electrolysis? Seams to me it would work as well as water. As long as you used oil resistant parts and hoses.
don't forget the pump would have to be insanely powerful due to how viscous glycol/mineral oil are, plus their specific heat capacity isn't as good as water so increasing flow rate would be mandatory, so that's gonna be one loud-ass pump
You could use an electric water pump from a car. They only require 12v. They are made to deal with that kind of viscosity
@@glebglub is hydraulic fluid thicker than water?
@@squidwardo7074 typically yeah, there may be some that aren't because the range is pretty vast due to how broad the use cases are, such as an aircraft landing gear vs a kitchen cupboard, so it can range from as thin as diesel to as thick/thicker than caramel. idk of any that are less viscous than water though (unless you count freon, alcohol, ammonia, mercury, gasoline; though then the safety of using them and their boiling points etc. come into play [and obviously gasoline/alcohol being explosive under pressure, hence how petrol/ethanol engines don't need spark plugs])
Car Guy Here... A cars heater core ISNT at the front of the vehicle. Its under the dash, inside the cabin. It has two coolant hoses that run FROM the engine, through the firewall, into the cabin where the heater core is located. It recirculates hot engine coolant to heat up the core.. it uses your cabin air blower (same blower the AC uses) to blow that hot air through the vents.
BAM. Automotive Heater.
None of the engineering qualifications with ALL the engineering tools = absolute entertainment! 😅😊😂
11:26 I am dying, pure Comedy.
Also did you think about Team Red, blue and Green Version of the screwdriver? Could also have a Double meaning with Pokemon and the manufacturers.
11:32 That face cracked me up
That's also the face of betrayal xD
I love the conflicting chaos between Linus and Kyle, and Alex just adds spice to that mix! prime content right here!
Oh, those nice times... I did such a thing myself that time!
- If you go to a junkyard for a heater core, ask the owner/seller, and they give you a proper size one. (I could buy a brass one that was exactly 120x360mm, with 1/2" pipes)
- Please use proper hose clamps! They are cheap, made of metal this will not expand even if they heat up
- The aquarium pump was definitely the weakes link in this setup the impeller inside broke like every year and it did not have any RPM feedback
- I had to go to a machine shop and let them make my CPU block. And yes, it was brazed.
- I also made a custom reservoir from brass anf 4mm plastic tube.
- That time 120mm, 3 pin fan was non existent
- I made a cute wooden box for the radiator, that was sitting on top of the case
- It was a reliable system. Even when the pump impellers broke, it did not completely stop cooling. Just some higher temps were the symptom. Once it ran without the pump for a week. (inspite it was cooling a 3GHz Pentium 4, which has been really hot)
- Today, we have all the needed stuff available from Aliexpress, so it is not really necessary to struggle this much with such a setup. I am sure, you can even get a full custom setup for about the price of that AIO, that you only have to assemble, and no craftmanship is needed at all.
14:47 we understand you man 😂
In the 2000s I used a radiator used in house heating to cool my Celeron 2 566 running on 1200MHz. It was passively cooled. (until one FET on my Abit motherboard decided to blow off making my room foggy suddenly). I used a car radiator too one time. And radiators from air conditioners too. I even made my own water block for cpu, vrm and GPU too.
who needs central heating when your CPU+GPU cap out at putting out 700W, which is the equivalent of 2100 BTUs, i.e. enough for 2x small rooms or 1x large? somehow put your partner's 150W TV and your 100W monitor in the loop for another 1000 BTU and that's a whole small house or medium flat when you add the fact the human body produces a further 250-600 BTU. (just hope you enjoy cold showers)
I built one of these back in the early 2000s using the heater core from a Suzuki car. My temps stayed rock solid no matter how much load I put on it. I used a 5 1/4 Bay reservoir. The best thing about heater cores is that they have a higher flow through the internal water channels
I have never thought that in water cooling video, I would be hearing the phrase: If it takes off, just get out of the way. Love you guys
Linus REALLY loves that screw driver 😂😂😂
This whole video is amazingly funny
Use outdoor pond pumps, they're meant for long lines and head pressure. Those indoor pumps are cheaply made, you cannot replace the impeller (which most outdoor ones can), and fail quite a lot if they're under some load. They're just not meant for that. Ends up making the price be a bit deceiving, as you'd be replacing the indoor pump every couple months or so which would put your budget pretty unreasonable. Not to mention if viewers tried that and had a failure resulting in damage, the outdoor pond pumps are just a MUCH better option. It's one huge issue with a lot of these videos, it's a great option if you're planning to run something for a few weeks, but many of them fail to take into account longevity and failures which are pretty likely in a few months or so with certain setups I've seen.
this might be the most fun video you guys put out in a while. Not that I'm saying the others are bad, but this one was great! I love these janky custom build videos!
That reminds me so much of the time I built my first water cooling in the late 1990s. Although I had to make my own cooling block at school's metal works. I also remember sanding the die against a glass to smooth it out, when the CPU costed way more than I had ever had money in my life. You could get those Celeron 300A's to double their frequency :)
5:55 The pain is real.
I'd love to see a follow up doing water cooling with affordable brands
Right? Let's bring in some lower, mid, and high end Bykski and test them against Alphacool and EK. I'd love to see that!
11:15 true to life actual conversion of an Engineer, a Technician, and an owner when solving an issue.
Linus: Camera time is expensive.
Also Linus when he even gets near Alex: I can make this work the super jank way, what you talking about. Everyone watch this...
As much as I adore watching the chaos in action, I am firmly with Kyle on this though. Sure, that AIO is expensive. But it just works. I don't want to have to lose my sanity trying to jank up a more effective custom solution. Even with professionally made parts that fit together properly. The AIO's true value is peace of mind and ease of installation and use. And IMO is worth every extra cent because of it.
Linus: "If you're finding yourself asking, WTF did I just watch?". Linus are you kidding us?! I know I'm not alone when I say that one of the many reasons I watch and love your content is because of vids like this. Watching you guys do ridiculous shit with and to computers is great entertainment and is also informational. Please keep it coming with this type of content. You guys are awesome!
Edit: Watching it again, I noticed the two Vaseline jars "holding up" the ginormous fucking fan. Bahaha amazing!!
You could use a transmission cooler which is a small sub-radiator and meant for cooling, albeit with oil / ATF
Remember, being able to buy off-the-shelf watercooling components (pumps, radiators, reservoires, blocks, etc.) wasn't a thing until later. Blocks were extremely basic, pumps were aquarium pumps, reservoires were often just bottles and radiators were actually from cars. So if you were going to watercool a PC in the early to mid 2000's, you had to do something similar to this. Oh, and fans optimized for static pressure weren't a thing, so you had to run your stock fans at high RPMs to force suffient air through the radiator.
Linus, almost all heat exchangers outside of the PC world run mixed metals, including that probably brass and copper Camaro heating core you are using. Even the PC ones that claim to be all copper are mixed metal, because most of the pumps have steel impellers and blocks are nickel coated. Run any metals you want with a type B automotive coolant. Change the fluid every 5 years. I have never had pitting or corrosion like this. Don't use type A coolant, its less effective and can react with some plastics. We used to run the Honda civic aluminium half rads like this, it's no problem. Think about it, cars run brass and copper heater cores through steel mesh reinforced pipes into aluminium radiators that put water through iron blocks. And they will run for decades.
You guys have been pumping out absolute bangers of videos this week! Hope to see more of this kind of content
I have out in my garage an all cooper heater core that is maybe 9 inch by 6 inches by 2 inches thick. Its super small. I got it from a junk dealer many years ago to try a small project where I filled up a old cistern and pumpped water in to that small core to provide some cooling for a small house I had. It worked to some degree and the cistern leaked so it just could not hold the water long enough. I think if I was going to do the project again I would do something entirely else.
Thanks for listening to my comment! I've been on a huge nostalgia kick lately and your car radiator video had me going on the water cooling stuff we used to do.
This was a killer experiment. The only thing would be to actually clean out the radiator well. Just running some hot, soapy water through for a while would at least do something.
Even with better fans and cpu block, still a good deal, and as said, ease of maintenance is a huge win. Unlike the AIO systems that you just throw the entire thing away if one thing breaks.
Potentially, this could be a really high performance cooling system, for same or less money. Surprised it took so long to try it, but glad to finally see the results! Thanks guys.
I can tell Linus is so much happier with the recent changes to LTT. Big props to you Linus, its great to see you really happy.
I love the DIY jank factor. Strong nostalgia vibes.
It was fun to watch you guys build that system. I remember building jank water cooling systems like this back in the day, before the AIO units were on the market. Tons of fun!
ZIP TIE GUN! ZIP TIE GUN! 😀 I'm positive if you bought that zip tie gun and then filmed a video entirely just you wandering around the office zip-tying things with reckless abandon, we'd all happily watch that video.
Yes please!