hindsight is always 20/20 but here is some unsolicited advice to anyone doing this install. you don't need union fittings right next to the bulkhead fitting...since you can back the nut off of the bulkhead then it is effectively a union. if you do use unions in a row like on the overflow box then it is a good idea to stagger them enough so that they aren't side by side in height and that allows you to get a wrench on the female nut of the union. it probably doesn't matter at this pressure and flow, but the flow direction through a union fitting should enter the female side (with the nut) and exit the male side. your unions on the returns are installed backwards.
I always apply silicon to pipe going into bulkheads. Just use your finger and rub on a thin layer to seal. Then in the future if you want to reuse it for something else it isn't impossible to remove.
You might be the first reefer I’ve seen that is/was also in med school. I’m about to start rotations and about to drill my first lowboy! Awesome video, tons of good advice and pointers!
Dude! This is the best most informative video I have ever seen! Even being a woman, I might be able to do this! But I think I will let my hubby have the honors! LOL. I have watched several video by brs and other and this is hands down the best step by step one I have ever seen! I had got to the point I was either going to buy a used preplumbed one or do a HOB overflow but this makes it seem doable and the used ones I have seen either have the big, bottom plumbed manufacturer overflows that eat up s o much space or they were selling with HOB overflows and that is very scary beaucuse of possibility of a flood and there is always that possibility on just tank leaking or bursting from sheer pressure of water so I do want to be able to sleep at night and not worry about my wood floors being ruined and have to redo all the living areas of my house in order to match up the flooring! Well done Josh and you have yourself a new subscriber! BTW very impressed, looks like you built stand and also the sump! Josh of all trades!
@@MillennialMedicine I have been looking at HOB overflows and someone selling one locally for 30 bucks with the braided plumbing. man, that is simple stuff, just hang on back and drape the flexible hose in the sump! This is much costlier and so much more involved but I wonder if this will be easier in the long run and I dont want to be like the piggy that built his house of straw! I decided to put m y tank in den because we have tile but a flood could go past this room and screw up my wood floors! Supposedly there are precautions that can be taken like a pump to keep syphon and drilling a hole in the return tube. Have you ever used a HOB overflow?
Karen Nation Onky probably with HOB is they require a syphon to start. I’m not a fan of tubing because it can kink. PVC can’t kink. By HOB do you mean a canister filter?
1st. I would probably drill it from the inside, that way in the event of a chipped edge it won't interfere with the seal. 2nd. If you absolutely have to drill it from the outside: use a spacer between the acrylic guide and the rim, that way it will be level. 3rd. When drilling glass, (or thick steel/stainless steel) it's almost always better to go slow on the speed of the drillbit/hole saw to reduce the friction heat build up. 4th. Good job! I think it's awesome that you share your experiences with this stuff!
Your return pipes is going to have 80% flow in the straight pipe and 20% in the other because water is going to flow in the least resistance. You should pipe it even so both get the same flow. Also if you can get away using 45° angles instead of 90° it is a lot better, again for flow issues.
When you T the return line do it just inside the stand as high as possible then use 2 90s at the corners to go out and up. Make the drain pipes drop below them then kick in. Overall lower profile and you can get the overflow box a 1/4" from the wall.
Should’ve came straight down out of the unions for your return, that way the over flow piping could go straight down instead of against the return piping.
Code states that plastic pvc pipe should not be strapped with galvanized strapping. Friction over time will cut into the pipe. And cause leaks. You can use same multi hole strap in plastic. Or they make mickey mouse straps. And all sorts of two hole straps.
use masking tape to hold the guide to the inside of the tank. Drill the tank from the inside out whenever possible so that the edge with a better cut is on the wet side.
You should have noted that if we used four 90 elbows, the pipes inside the box would not fit. I just did it literally an hour ago. Lol. I ended up using 2 90 and 2 street elbows, the street elbows slides into the 90, therefore making it shorter than 2 90 connected together by a small pipe. I do see you have a 90 and a street on the far right. You glued the 3 pvc pipes to the 3 drains of the box?
Side note.... its best to drill from the inside out and flip the tank so that the drill side is on the bottom. No glass drops and much cleaner inside cut.
i currently have a 125 and just installed the same overflow box.. my question is where to drill the return holes on the tank. How far down from the top of the tank do i need to drill? If you could please let me know then that would be greatly appreciated!
From my perspective, it looks like the drill guide is upside down, reason…. From what I can see is that the arrow should always point to the top, so if the arrow is pointed toward the bottom, then the guide is somewhat wrong. Or is the camera showing a glaring mistake?
It was upside down on purpose. Because of the rim around the tank it would not have been flush so I had to flip the guide holes to make sure it was flush inside the tank.
Great video! I love that you show the whole process of drilling and plumbing. I am planning out a freshwater community tank but plan on drilling my first tank for canister filter and an auto top off overflow (plumbed to the house drain). How has this tank held up? Does having this number of holes reduce the strength of the back panel? My biggest fear is that i drill 3 holes in my new 75g and it breaks and water everywhere... Again, thanks for the good video!
Are you suggesting that the drain should be submerged in 1st chamber below water line, but not too far down? This is new to me, but could you talk about the return portion and the modification you did to the e-shop overflow? Thanks
It's put just below the surface so that trapped air can escape. If the pvc pipe is too far down, at low flow rates, the water does not have the velocity to purge all the air from the pipe.
@@theamjadjamousable You could try it but I wouldn't risk it. Thats a lot of faith in some glue. They might have a converter you can use and have it shipped to you. Or you could buy 3 different gaskets that fit your pip. The overflow box gets sealed with the rubber rings and having a gasket that is a little too small or big won't hurt that.
@@MillennialMedicine did not think about using gaskets , will give it a test. If not i will buy the European 32mm bulkheads and use them instead , i think they will cover the holes well. Thanks a lot . Have a great one .
Ended up having the exact same issues you did. Two of gaskets on the bottom of the over flow started to leak as soon as I set it up. Any one looking into this product do your self a favor and put new gaskets on before you even install it.
I seen that in the video, looked like they were on the nut side. If that was the case the gasket is useless as the water will follow the threads through the nut.
Where's your gate valve? That's how you control the flow but more importantly the noise. Gate valve is the second most important piece of The Bean Overflow method.
Could you tell me what’s washers you used on your bulk head. I need some for my bulk head that goes through the glass part of my tank but can’t find them anywhere
I am adding up all this and seems like definitely cheaper to buy a used tank, how much do you think all the plumbing costs? Did you buy a kit or just pvc from homedepot or a hardware or home improvement shop?
Karen Nation PVC from Home Depot! Don’t get their check valves though! The ones they sell have metal and it’ll corrode/rust overtime. I like the BRS ones. And less than $50. What gets expensive is when you add unions. But honestly unions are an expense early on that you will wish that you had later.
Awesome and detailed video, I just bought this over flow. Any thought or tips on this product? Also where did you purchase those return heads? Or return jets? Not even sure what they are called lol.
hindsight is always 20/20 but here is some unsolicited advice to anyone doing this install. you don't need union fittings right next to the bulkhead fitting...since you can back the nut off of the bulkhead then it is effectively a union. if you do use unions in a row like on the overflow box then it is a good idea to stagger them enough so that they aren't side by side in height and that allows you to get a wrench on the female nut of the union. it probably doesn't matter at this pressure and flow, but the flow direction through a union fitting should enter the female side (with the nut) and exit the male side. your unions on the returns are installed backwards.
I always apply silicon to pipe going into bulkheads. Just use your finger and rub on a thin layer to seal. Then in the future if you want to reuse it for something else it isn't impossible to remove.
one of the best sump setup vids ive seen. its really clear and concise with some great practical tips. And ive watched tons of expert videos.
Thanks!
Was gonna say the same thing!
You might be the first reefer I’ve seen that is/was also in med school. I’m about to start rotations and about to drill my first lowboy! Awesome video, tons of good advice and pointers!
Congrats! I don't have a tank right now and couldn't imagine taking care of while while in school. I am already planning another build.
Dude! This is the best most informative video I have ever seen! Even being a woman, I might be able to do this! But I think I will let my hubby have the honors! LOL. I have watched several video by brs and other and this is hands down the best step by step one I have ever seen! I had got to the point I was either going to buy a used preplumbed one or do a HOB overflow but this makes it seem doable and the used ones I have seen either have the big, bottom plumbed manufacturer overflows that eat up s o much space or they were selling with HOB overflows and that is very scary beaucuse of possibility of a flood and there is always that possibility on just tank leaking or bursting from sheer pressure of water so I do want to be able to sleep at night and not worry about my wood floors being ruined and have to redo all the living areas of my house in order to match up the flooring! Well done Josh and you have yourself a new subscriber! BTW very impressed, looks like you built stand and also the sump! Josh of all trades!
Karen Nation it really is easy! Once you drill one hole in the tank, you’ll feel professional!
@@MillennialMedicine I have been looking at HOB overflows and someone selling one locally for 30 bucks with the braided plumbing. man, that is simple stuff, just hang on back and drape the flexible hose in the sump! This is much costlier and so much more involved but I wonder if this will be easier in the long run and I dont want to be like the piggy that built his house of straw! I decided to put m y tank in den because we have tile but a flood could go past this room and screw up my wood floors! Supposedly there are precautions that can be taken like a pump to keep syphon and drilling a hole in the return tube. Have you ever used a HOB overflow?
Karen Nation Onky probably with HOB is they require a syphon to start. I’m not a fan of tubing because it can kink. PVC can’t kink.
By HOB do you mean a canister filter?
1st. I would probably drill it from the inside, that way in the event of a chipped edge it won't interfere with the seal.
2nd. If you absolutely have to drill it from the outside: use a spacer between the acrylic guide and the rim, that way it will be level.
3rd. When drilling glass, (or thick steel/stainless steel) it's almost always better to go slow on the speed of the drillbit/hole saw to reduce the friction heat build up.
4th. Good job! I think it's awesome that you share your experiences with this stuff!
Your return pipes is going to have 80% flow in the straight pipe and 20% in the other because water is going to flow in the least resistance. You should pipe it even so both get the same flow. Also if you can get away using 45° angles instead of 90° it is a lot better, again for flow issues.
He could use a needle valve as well on the higher flow return
@@madmartigan8119gate valve preferred for metering water flow
When you T the return line do it just inside the stand as high as possible then use 2 90s at the corners to go out and up. Make the drain pipes drop below them then kick in. Overall lower profile and you can get the overflow box a 1/4" from the wall.
Should’ve came straight down out of the unions for your return, that way the over flow piping could go straight down instead of against the return piping.
Code states that plastic pvc pipe should not be strapped with galvanized strapping. Friction over time will cut into the pipe. And cause leaks. You can use same multi hole strap in plastic. Or they make mickey mouse straps. And all sorts of two hole straps.
How long do you think this tank will be in use. Lol.
use masking tape to hold the guide to the inside of the tank. Drill the tank from the inside out whenever possible so that the edge with a better cut is on the wet side.
Very nice idea for fish filter... thanks you.... my friend
that arrow on the template isn't supposed to point up, instead the bottom of the tank?
You should have noted that if we used four 90 elbows, the pipes inside the box would not fit. I just did it literally an hour ago. Lol. I ended up using 2 90 and 2 street elbows, the street elbows slides into the 90, therefore making it shorter than 2 90 connected together by a small pipe. I do see you have a 90 and a street on the far right. You glued the 3 pvc pipes to the 3 drains of the box?
WHY70122 now that you mention that I probably should have! And yeah I used the 4 90s because I wanted to keep the plumbing tight against the tank.
Is any of the plumbing glued together?
Side note.... its best to drill from the inside out and flip the tank so that the drill side is on the bottom. No glass drops and much cleaner inside cut.
i currently have a 125 and just installed the same overflow box.. my question is where to drill the return holes on the tank. How far down from the top of the tank do i need to drill? If you could please let me know then that would be greatly appreciated!
From my perspective, it looks like the drill guide is upside down, reason…. From what I can see is that the arrow should always point to the top, so if the arrow is pointed toward the bottom, then the guide is somewhat wrong. Or is the camera showing a glaring mistake?
It was upside down on purpose. Because of the rim around the tank it would not have been flush so I had to flip the guide holes to make sure it was flush inside the tank.
What kind of paint did you use? Im scared of painting inside my overflorbox
Great video! I love that you show the whole process of drilling and plumbing. I am planning out a freshwater community tank but plan on drilling my first tank for canister filter and an auto top off overflow (plumbed to the house drain).
How has this tank held up? Does having this number of holes reduce the strength of the back panel? My biggest fear is that i drill 3 holes in my new 75g and it breaks and water everywhere...
Again, thanks for the good video!
U should use PVC solvent cement. if u dont want any leakage
What’s that?
@@JackOfAllTrades0404 go to hardware store and tell them to give PVC glue cement
he did, he said that he just didnt show it if you were listening
Are you suggesting that the drain should be submerged in 1st chamber below water line, but not too far down? This is new to me, but could you talk about the return portion and the modification you did to the e-shop overflow? Thanks
It's put just below the surface so that trapped air can escape. If the pvc pipe is too far down, at low flow rates, the water does not have the velocity to purge all the air from the pipe.
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I can't find any pvc that fits this overflow box's bulkheads .
It should fit inside the bulkheads.
@@MillennialMedicine yea i know.
I am from Europe , and the closest pipe size is 32mm , which is 2 mm off . Do you think the glue can handle that ?
@@theamjadjamousable You could try it but I wouldn't risk it. Thats a lot of faith in some glue. They might have a converter you can use and have it shipped to you. Or you could buy 3 different gaskets that fit your pip.
The overflow box gets sealed with the rubber rings and having a gasket that is a little too small or big won't hurt that.
@@MillennialMedicine did not think about using gaskets , will give it a test. If not i will buy the European 32mm bulkheads and use them instead , i think they will cover the holes well. Thanks a lot .
Have a great one .
HELLO CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR WHERE YOU GET THE RETURN NAZO AND IF CAN WITH THE BULKHEAD THANK YOU JOSE.
Bulk Reef Supply
58 mm inside diameter 85 mm outside diameter for the washers for the bulkhead
Hi, how are you? I am interested this video, I have a question:you are used the PVC how much size?
Adiljan Muhammad at the bulk reef supply the exit lines are 1 inch. .... 25.4 mm in EU.
Ended up having the exact same issues you did. Two of gaskets on the bottom of the over flow started to leak as soon as I set it up. Any one looking into this product do your self a favor and put new gaskets on before you even install it.
when you say "on the bottom" I hope you don't mean you put the gaskets on the outside of the overflow. Gaskets always go on the flange side...FYI
I seen that in the video, looked like they were on the nut side. If that was the case the gasket is useless as the water will follow the threads through the nut.
Where's your gate valve? That's how you control the flow but more importantly the noise. Gate valve is the second most important piece of The Bean Overflow method.
Edward Thayer underneath the tank.
Great video! Very well done
Could you tell me what’s washers you used on your bulk head. I need some for my bulk head that goes through the glass part of my tank but can’t find them anywhere
Jason St. John They were just from Home Depot, like $4 for a set of 4 or something like that.
58 mm inside 85 mm outside I did t think they sold flat style Rubber washers
I have tried looking everywhere and can’t find them Internet everywhere
What size pvc and bulkhead do you use?
I am adding up all this and seems like definitely cheaper to buy a used tank, how much do you think all the plumbing costs? Did you buy a kit or just pvc from homedepot or a hardware or home improvement shop?
Karen Nation PVC from Home Depot! Don’t get their check valves though! The ones they sell have metal and it’ll corrode/rust overtime. I like the BRS ones. And less than $50. What gets expensive is when you add unions. But honestly unions are an expense early on that you will wish that you had later.
So it was a glass tank or an acrylic? I heard you talking about both and am confused as to wether it was glass or acrylic?
glass, you dont need a diamond holesaw for acrylic
Curious what return pump you use? I just got the same overflow but I think the pump I got is too strong.
Just add a ball valve to your return lineand close it to match your over flow deposit.
Dumb question - where do you get the internal spout for your return? That flexible type
Mr Josh. Advice on when drilling, do you want the overflow higher or lower than return hole if I don't have a check valve
why don't you just use the acrylic guide to drill all the holes?
Any leak issues? Is it silent?
Awesome and detailed video, I just bought this over flow. Any thought or tips on this product? Also where did you purchase those return heads? Or return jets? Not even sure what they are called lol.
What tank is that?
Is this a 75 gal? Marine land?
90 Gallon and not sure on the brand.
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Pretty bad set up