@@tanasi8320 Nah, not rlly. Firstly, he didn't write a whole lot of slow pieces. Secondly, prolly cuz chopin was pretty much a music snob and also appreciated older works of other composers rather than his own.
basically with your dumb logic you're saying that if someone who can only cook mac n cheese, goes to a michelin restaurant and orders something that they hated, they can't say anything about it because all they can make is mac n cheese ?
I am a professional player, perform a major part of Chopin etudes and can say that her performance is terrible. Just a rush to create an illusion of virtuous performance with a high tempo for non-professional part of the audience in order to receive as much views as it possible.
@@matuschakk I'm not a concert pianist, but a piano teacher..It seems like there's some tension in her(?) It all brings back memories though listening to this when I studied it...
@Yanjun Sun so you say it's easy . There are more difficult pieces by Frants Liszt , Chopin who professional in piano or Schumann but if you wants to play perfectly among Chopin's etude are difficult ones.
it´s fantastic! this is my favourite etude. It´s amazing how it´s tragic and at the same time, half-way through it, hope filters , the melody opens and becomes pervasive, always keeping this lofty tone...it´s truly a poem without words! And Valentina seems to feel its changes through her body, she accompanies the different moods with her gestures..just great
OK I'm exhausted and exhilarated. Just listened to all 24 pieces from opus 10 and 25. Absolute perfection, beauty, and grace. I just stumbled on a rare treasure on RUclips today. A marvelous discovery. Can't wait to see all 135 videos. Brava Ms. Valentina and Thank You!!!!!!
You can talk about interpretation feelings,etc. But Valentina Lisitsa is the only one that Plays this Etude respecting the velocity thempo that Chopin wrote at the beginig of the partiture : 160 ! Also has lot of emotion. If Valentina doesnt play with emotion, then I am Beethoven reencarnated, and one thing is the emotion that have who plays and the emotion that have who hear, if hears. If you dont feel what who is playing feels, you can never talk about feeling.
You can talk about velocity all you want and how you believe Chopin wrote it, but that doesn't make you an expert. By implying only one person "respects" anything about a composer or a piece is sheer arrogance and snobbery on your part. Yes people play it a shade slower, yes, people play it this speed. But when it comes down to it, musicality is what matters and yes that includes putting passion into it. So unless you can play it better yourself, shut up.
@@MusicalMissCapri First of all, what he stated was fact, the piece's tempo is supposed to be that, it's not up for personal interpretation. Get your bullshit checked. Second, Valentina can play it better than you and others for that matter, so why don't you practice what you preach, shut up and fo?
This is the third Chopin piece I'm learning, and is by far my favorite. I started last week and know it by now, but can only play accurately at about 80 bpm (as in, quarter notes so about half to two thirds speed, haha). The first piece I learned was Fantasie-Impromptu, then Black Keys. Fun story, I actually had an out of body experience the last time I was practicing Black Keys and it triggered a panic attack that sent me to the hospital. The melody was too complex for me to consciously process at the right tempo that suddenly I realized I was watching myself play by only muscle memory and it scared the hell out of me. The sudden realization that I wasn't consciously playing the song made me feel almost possessed by something. Got checked out, clean bill of health, Chopin is just badass enough to send some pianists to the ER, lol
I memorized the e minor concerto, practiced a bunch, then a friend came over with some potent hash oil. I decided Chopin might be interesting with a little enhancement, so I took a hit, sat down at the piano, played the first measures of the piano part, and it seemed like the keys started to fly apart, the power of the music moved me so much that I stopped playing, almost lost consciousness, and had to go to a quiet room, kneel in the sunlight coming in through the window, and pray for my life and sanity.
On est emporté par le lyrisme de cette pièce et fasciné par la sonorité sous les doigts de Valentina. Une pure merveille digne des plus grandes pianistes mondiales.
I am listening, mesmerized... just... how can an ETUDE sound like this? My small, insignificant mind is just incapable to understand how someone can... just one person... put together something as beautiful as this. I've always been a big fan of film scores, especially by John Williams, and I just recently have been listening lots of classical. And so far, I really like what I hear. =)
Of course what we are all really doing when we listen to music is enjoying what we are doing musically in our own minds. For what I want to do and fir what I enjoy most in my own mind this performance is the perfect substrate.
most haunting hand movements ever,,,excorist technique,,don't get me wrong,,it's mindblowing and i Love it,,and this song is eternal,,timeless! Timeless
It's an etude; it's designed for the study of a specific element of piano technique - in this case, arpeggios. Chopin was just kind enough to make his beautiful as well as dastardly difficult. It's not exactly something you'd play in a recital. It's like exercise drills for professional athletes. They don't show the world the hours they spend in the gym, but those hours spent learning something seemingly 'mindless', repetitive exercises are vital for the relatively short amount of gameplay.
Actually, it seems to me that a key part of the "study" in Chopin's etudes is exactly the task of making it also musical, and not just the technical focus of the piece. (Certain Chopin achieved this in the compositions). As such, it's very well-suited to recital.
Y’all, when I wrote this comment 8 Entire Years Ago, I was an undergraduate in music and thought I knew everything. I’m sure I’m not the only music undergrad who, armed with a few years of high-level music education, decided they knew enough to make pronouncements such as this one. I’ve learned so much since then, and while I CRINGE at reading this confidently stated opinion-phrased-as-fact, I have compassion and love for the young musician who wrote it. All of that to say, I love études, I don’t often hear them or play them in recitals, but I usually enjoy hearing them performed. Hope you’re all doing well!
Carlos Sanchez 0:40 for example...it's just little barely unnoticeable mistakes that dont count at all, and imo, Valentina has played it perfectly fine.
Its has to be the best feeling in the world to sit down at a piano... look at the keys, the score infront of your that reads Chopin Etude Op 25 No 12, and know beyond all doubt that you are going to nail it to perfection... not once... but every singel time.
I just went back and listened to HOROWITZ'S version of this etude, and as great as it was, and it was great...this one by Valentina is right up there...in some passages she actually has more feeling and theme emphasis then he did. SHE IS VERY, VERY GOOD
Cette étude de Chopin opus 25 n°12 également appelée "océan" à cause des arpèges effectuées par les mains "les fameux aller, et retour" qui peuvent faire penser aux mouvements des vagues de l'océan. Elle fût composée entre 1832, et 1836 pour être publiée en 1837 destinée à la Comtesse D'Agoult qui on suppose fût instantanément subjuguée par la virtuosité, et la puissance magistrale de cette étude. Je préfère être franche avec vous, ce morceau est magistralement difficile à jouer. Sa difficulté n'étant pas de le "jouer" car il s'agit ici d'arpèges brisées, mais pour le sublimer celui-ci requiert une vitesse d'exécution rapide à vous désarticuler les doigts en moins de deux minutes... Laissons là tout le talent de notre pianiste émerite Valentina Lisitsa en révéler toute sa candeur, sublimée d'une vitesse foudroyante pour nous affriander de toute sa prestance.
I just listened to her again...and she is still amazing even after commenting one year ago and having since listened to numerous other versions of this piece. I have also still NOT seen even one of the critics of her playing answering my challenge to upload one of their performances of this etude...to see how well they perform it
This sounds looks like ocean troubled waves, but Chopin never called "Ocean" to this Etude. It was writen inmediatelly close to the op10n12, in 1831, Viena, leaving to the Russians conquist of Varsovia inspirated becose of that,and also loosing a girl he loved in Varsovia. Thats the reasson of the tragic minor tunes.
It's so sad to read all the critical remarks about such an amazing accomplishment. I would like some of you critics upload your versions of these 24 etudes and let's see if you can back up your criticism with a better performance then this one by Valentina. She is so steady and relaxed, despite the power and "intensity" of her sound and the emotion of her interpretations, especially this last one opus 25, no. 12....and her performance of all these etudes is of such uniform virtuosity throughout the entire repertoire of etudes, I would challenge anyone else match this degree of consistency. Those of you who are critical must all be expert piano students, which is why so many of you are so blase about Valentina's performance. That may be understandable because many of you probably play these etudes very well, but to the average musician or to a layman, playing such complex pieces so easily and flawlessly is incredible to behold. The non piano playing audience are ignorant of the complicated chord structures, two handed independent rhythms and difficult key signatures that Chopin tested with these etudes, and to them the pianist may as well be sliding their fingers over a FLAT table. But those of you who play piano must know how difficult it is reach this level of accomplishment. I paid my way through high school, college and law school playing piano, accordion and organ professionally but I never played classical music until I was 50 years old and was overcome by the desire to play something more challenging then popular music. I was basically a "gypsy" type musician in the sense that I played with great "feeling" but with little technique because it was not required. Once I started playing CHOPIN piano busters I started to appreciate the sheer "physical " accomplishment of just being able to perform them and to do so without mistakes despite their great complexity, and then to also add great "feeling" or musicality is something even the greatest pianists fell short of. Despite the fact that I was a competitive athlete in several sports and could play tennis or squash for hours, I got exhausted and my fingers felt like they were falling off after playing only a few minutes of any major Chopin work....let alone 24 etudes which look like they were recorded one after the other. Valentina's performance is a masterful " TOUR DE FORCE" both artistically and physically, and would be acknowledged as such by all but the most cynical and jealous competitors and is not justified. SHE IS GREAT...not to mention she has to be one of the most beautiful performers ever to grace the classical keyboard.
Those of us who are 'critical' think, that music is not about playing fast, but about sending a message. Everything should be devoted to that. There is music execution here, with little to no thinking. You don't get excited when you see the idling engine? No message, only a show. Message comes from variety, from subtle nuances, from differences (like any information). Slow or fast, loud or quiet, crescendo or diminuendo, relation of bass to high notes volume, melody on the sound pillow of arpeggios. Comparing Lisitza to many other pianists around I see that she is one of the show makers rather than thinkers and explorers. At least in many cases. And if you want a real "tour de force", search for Berezovsky performing all transcedental etudes in one concert.
As HOROWITZ often said when talking about critics. " it is all just a matter of opinion"...he meant both good and bad. You may not share my feelings about the performances of Lisitza but that is okay. I feel she does have excellent expression and musicality and her performances are not just mechanical and robotic at all. Some critics used to call HOROWITZ'S performances not very musical, so the only valid test of the quality of someone's performance is the general consensus of many different people. Whatever, the pianists who can attain this level of virtuosity are to be admired for their skill and dedication. Only other piano players could really appreciate what they are doing and how hard it is. To people who don't know the piano, these great pianists may as well be playing on a flat board with no notes and no key signatures, etc. TOO BAD for them. The rest of us who understand piano can disagree on the status of a particular performer or another, but at least we understand what they are doing and appreciate it.
Thanks...I hate when people trash others without justification. Lisitza is a great pianist and as good as any modern piano star that I have heard...and she is also BEAUTIFUL to look at...which is an added bonus to attracting new piano fans to this craft Again I issue the challenge to the critics to upload their performance s of these difficult pieces and let's see how they compare
i keep coming back to this time and again. i can't believe you put these amazing recordings on youtube for free. this is among the finest production quality i've ever seen on this site.
I'm so loving this performance. Have heard many different versions and even attempted playing myself (and of course I'm now where playing as cool as this)... this is the best interpretation for me.
This is always my favourite of Chopin's etudes. Listening, I was surprised why some of the mis-steps at the front (at least they seemed there to my ears) weren't replayed and then I heard how the second half sounded and (unless you're Gould, editing out errors), you can't get away with that in a live video, and you have to live with each performance as a whole, and it's definitely a keeper (if the smile didn't tell you so too). I know Lisitsa is more than merely fast(er) (and generally more accurate even at those speeds than anyone else), and in something like an etude that asset becomes utterly helpful, cuz for an etude, barely anything is more breathtaking than hearing its technical challenges absolutely stomped by technique and ability. I also don't think musicality gets sacrificed in the process, at least not in this set. All things considered, this etude has always struck me as one of most challenging. On the one hand, there's basically only one "technique" throughout, so if you get that down, you're probably already in the clear. But there's something really counterintuitive for my hands in how Chopin stacks his arpeggios here. If I have any "defense" of this idea, it's that Lisitsa doesn't look like her usual 100% "I'm in control here" with her hands floating over the keys so adroitly that it hardly seems they're being depressed. All of which is to say, about this particular etude, it's really cool to hear the massive tempestuousness of the Ocean so powerfully realized, rolling continuously over the whole breadth of the keys. Thanks!
Can't imagine how epic this would've been hearing and seeing Chopin himself play this. I envy everyone who witnessed such a thing.
Liszt played it better tho. Chopin himself said "I wish I could perform my own Etudes the way he does."
It would probably be very boring and calm. I can see how that may be from someone like Chopin.
"I wrote a little ditty, wanna hear?"
@@renascitur7051 because he wrote a lot of slow pieces?
@@tanasi8320 Nah, not rlly. Firstly, he didn't write a whole lot of slow pieces. Secondly, prolly cuz chopin was pretty much a music snob and also appreciated older works of other composers rather than his own.
I don’t even understand how anyone could criticize a performance like this when half the people here probably can’t play Mary had a little lamb.
In my opinion, you can criticize anything without being good at the thing your criticizing. Its at the end, just an opinion right ?
basically with your dumb logic you're saying that if someone who can only cook mac n cheese, goes to a michelin restaurant and orders something that they hated, they can't say anything about it because all they can make is mac n cheese ?
Ah..the nature of criticism. I play, I compose, and this is EPIC!
I am a professional player, perform a major part of Chopin etudes and can say that her performance is terrible. Just a rush to create an illusion of virtuous performance with a high tempo for non-professional part of the audience in order to receive as much views as it possible.
@@matuschakk I'm not a concert pianist, but a piano teacher..It seems like there's some tension in her(?) It all brings back memories though listening to this when I studied it...
Chopin would be proud ;)
On 1:43 her emotion and her hair as well is waving like the ocean i love it
how did chopin even think of pieces like this..... he is a true master....
It's not that deep in terms of harmony and melody, it looks like that because of the magnificent arpeggios.
Her technique and artistry is impossibly perfect.
She's a monster at the piano! I love watching her play.
You know this piece is impossible when Valentina looks in mild discomfort
It's most likely an act. Just like in 10 5 she looks all happy playing it because it's happy.
@Yanjun Sun who are some?!
@Yanjun Sun so you say it's easy . There are more difficult pieces by Frants Liszt , Chopin who professional in piano or Schumann but if you wants to play perfectly among Chopin's etude are difficult ones.
@Yanjun Sun ok
@Yanjun Sun agreed there are more difficult ones.
blown away. I never thought continuous arpeggios could be played like that.
it´s fantastic! this is my favourite etude. It´s amazing how it´s tragic and at the same time, half-way through it, hope filters , the melody opens and becomes pervasive, always keeping this lofty tone...it´s truly a poem without words! And Valentina seems to feel its changes through her body, she accompanies the different moods with her
gestures..just great
exact
look at the smile at 1.58.
Lol
I'd be smiling if I'd got to 1:58 of this!
A rare occurrence of smiling Lisitsa
Gulfstream005 y
Why look at it?
What an amazing blend of beauty, power and passion!!
Whenever I listen to this I am crying inside my heart. So moving.
very hard to stop listening to this piece. very beautiful and attention grabbing. the sound is just inspiring.
Yeah. By the way, how do you do after 13 years...?
何でこんなに心に響くんだろ。
マジ、リスペクトやわ。この人。
The music is so raging and fierce, but her hands are SO loose! They just float. Amazing performance!
Kocham te rewolucyjnie brzmiacy utwór naszego wspaniałego Fryderyka Chopina. Lisitsa umie zagrac.
I believe Lisitsa was born in Ukraine but later emigrated and now lives in the US, I believe possibly in North Carolina.
Fabulous - this is my favourite Chopin Etude and Valentina's interpretation is great.
Le tempo me fait comprendre que cette toute dernière étude de Chopin ressemble à un cataclysme désespéré.
Merci à cette artiste .
Since years i listen to your pieces. You way of playing is epic!
again all these Chopin etudes are greatly interpretated. Thanks for sharing this with us.
a milestone in recording of Chopin etudes
Amazingly passionate. Valentina Lisitsa, you're extraordinary.
OK I'm exhausted and exhilarated. Just listened to all 24 pieces from opus 10 and 25. Absolute perfection, beauty, and grace. I just stumbled on a rare treasure on RUclips today. A marvelous discovery. Can't wait to see all 135 videos. Brava Ms. Valentina and Thank You!!!!!!
You can talk about interpretation feelings,etc. But Valentina Lisitsa is the only one that Plays this Etude respecting the velocity thempo that Chopin wrote at the beginig of the partiture : 160 ! Also has lot of emotion. If Valentina doesnt play with emotion, then I am Beethoven reencarnated, and one thing is the emotion that have who plays and the emotion that have who hear, if hears. If you dont feel what who is playing feels, you can never talk about feeling.
Diego Portabales Although your wording was strange, I understand and agree with you.
Agree
+Diego Portabales your original comment is totally correct. Thanks for expressing.
You can talk about velocity all you want and how you believe Chopin wrote it, but that doesn't make you an expert. By implying only one person "respects" anything about a composer or a piece is sheer arrogance and snobbery on your part. Yes people play it a shade slower, yes, people play it this speed. But when it comes down to it, musicality is what matters and yes that includes putting passion into it. So unless you can play it better yourself, shut up.
@@MusicalMissCapri First of all, what he stated was fact, the piece's tempo is supposed to be that, it's not up for personal interpretation. Get your bullshit checked.
Second, Valentina can play it better than you and others for that matter, so why don't you practice what you preach, shut up and fo?
This is the third Chopin piece I'm learning, and is by far my favorite. I started last week and know it by now, but can only play accurately at about 80 bpm (as in, quarter notes so about half to two thirds speed, haha). The first piece I learned was Fantasie-Impromptu, then Black Keys. Fun story, I actually had an out of body experience the last time I was practicing Black Keys and it triggered a panic attack that sent me to the hospital. The melody was too complex for me to consciously process at the right tempo that suddenly I realized I was watching myself play by only muscle memory and it scared the hell out of me. The sudden realization that I wasn't consciously playing the song made me feel almost possessed by something. Got checked out, clean bill of health, Chopin is just badass enough to send some pianists to the ER, lol
You're scaring me
Consult an exorcist.
I like this guy 🤝
I memorized the e minor concerto, practiced a bunch, then a friend came over with some potent hash oil. I decided Chopin might be interesting with a little enhancement, so I took a hit, sat down at the piano, played the first measures of the piano part, and it seemed like the keys started to fly apart, the power of the music moved me so much that I stopped playing, almost lost consciousness, and had to go to a quiet room, kneel in the sunlight coming in through the window, and pray for my life and sanity.
On est emporté par le lyrisme de cette pièce et fasciné par la sonorité sous les doigts de Valentina.
Une pure merveille digne des plus grandes pianistes mondiales.
Vous avez raison
Wooow!! she is a great pianist, beautiful music,
Chopin Rules!!
I listened to your playing Chopin Nocturne No 20 in C Sharpe Minor. Excellent. I listen to Chopin Nocturnes regularly while I work.
wow. just wow. no doubt one of the best pianists in the world
i dont think many people can play it better then this !!!!! she is amazing
Your channel is great, thanks for sharing this wealth, you are helping many to make progress. Brazil 💚💛💙
She is absolutely the best pianist!
I am listening, mesmerized... just... how can an ETUDE sound like this? My small, insignificant mind is just incapable to understand how someone can... just one person... put together something as beautiful as this.
I've always been a big fan of film scores, especially by John Williams, and I just recently have been listening lots of classical. And so far, I really like what I hear. =)
I don't usually like the way she performs, but this one was just Perfect!
Of course what we are all really doing when we listen to music is enjoying what we are doing musically in our own minds.
For what I want to do and fir what I enjoy most in my own mind this performance is the perfect substrate.
i'm playing this piece and jesus christ, she makes it look so easy. not only is it incredibly fast the touch and skill necessary; she is a beast
Valentina looks gorgeous here. Am I allowed to say that?
Sr. Amedo lol
EASYTIGER10 she does
Beautiful..
I love how you play it so freely..
This is my favorite of Chopin's etudes. Excellent, excellent performance.
She's the best. What emotion
She's not making this sound easy. She's making this sound GREAT!
most haunting hand movements ever,,,excorist technique,,don't get me wrong,,it's mindblowing and i Love it,,and this song is eternal,,timeless! Timeless
amazing... tears running down my face that are genuine. thank you for sharing your interpretations on life.
I just reserved tickets to see her perform 24 Chopin Etudes in NYC on April 24th. Super excited. =)
Lindíssimo! A interpretação, a música, a musicista!
You're one of my favourite pianist, I'm Italian and I love you soo much!!! Your talent is fantastic!!!
Perfetta esecuzione....le dita si muovono in una maniera impressionante😘
Her musicality on this piece makes feel like im in heaven...
OMG!!! I'm speechless - "OMG" is all I've got!!
It's an etude; it's designed for the study of a specific element of piano technique - in this case, arpeggios. Chopin was just kind enough to make his beautiful as well as dastardly difficult. It's not exactly something you'd play in a recital. It's like exercise drills for professional athletes. They don't show the world the hours they spend in the gym, but those hours spent learning something seemingly 'mindless', repetitive exercises are vital for the relatively short amount of gameplay.
Actually, it seems to me that a key part of the "study" in Chopin's etudes is exactly the task of making it also musical, and not just the technical focus of the piece. (Certain Chopin achieved this in the compositions). As such, it's very well-suited to recital.
Yea. I find most of his Études his best pieces.
gameplay?!? lol
How about Tristesse? That's an Etude and I can't see why someone wouldn't play that at a recital (also I've played it at a recital).
Y’all, when I wrote this comment 8 Entire Years Ago, I was an undergraduate in music and thought I knew everything. I’m sure I’m not the only music undergrad who, armed with a few years of high-level music education, decided they knew enough to make pronouncements such as this one. I’ve learned so much since then, and while I CRINGE at reading this confidently stated opinion-phrased-as-fact, I have compassion and love for the young musician who wrote it.
All of that to say, I love études, I don’t often hear them or play them in recitals, but I usually enjoy hearing them performed.
Hope you’re all doing well!
I AM going to see Valentina in San Jose Feb 8th Can't wait!
Outstanding - you're terrific Valentina!
Fantastic piece of music, seems like flying, How is it possible to play like this??? Wonderful.
Bravo, Valentina!
THis is one of my favorite takes on this piece. Such energy and passion mesmerizes.
Wonderful playing! And that Vintage Bosendorfer sounds incredible.
Alejandro hasn't released an album yet and he's already educating ppl musically .. just wow.
I'm actually impressed.
WHO THE FUCK PLAYS A CHOPIN ETUDE TOO FAST WITH THEIR EYES CLOSED WITH ONLY LITTLE MISTAKES????
she is professional
Me.
where are the little mistakes in this interpretation?
Carlos Sanchez 0:40 for example...it's just little barely unnoticeable mistakes that dont count at all, and imo, Valentina has played it perfectly fine.
Your comment is ugly.
Speechless ... amazing performance !
Thank you ,Ms Lisitsa. I'm inspired by your technique and musicianship
Bravíssimo!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I’m here because of Alejandro Aranda aka scarypoolparty.
Me too.
Blesser
Holy shit, same lollllll
... listened to the entire set. Bravo!
I can listen the waves... such incredeble!
Its has to be the best feeling in the world to sit down at a piano... look at the keys, the score infront of your that reads Chopin Etude Op 25 No 12, and know beyond all doubt that you are going to nail it to perfection... not once... but every singel time.
It doesn't work like that. A pianist is not a player piano.
her hair was literally flying...
Un feliz encuentro con el arte, la maestría, la elegancia y la sensualidad.
what a powerful performance and a powerful piece
I just went back and listened to HOROWITZ'S version of this etude, and as great as it was, and it was great...this one by Valentina is right up there...in some passages she actually has more feeling and theme emphasis then he did.
SHE IS VERY, VERY GOOD
Cette étude de Chopin opus 25 n°12 également appelée "océan" à cause des arpèges effectuées par les mains "les fameux aller, et retour" qui peuvent faire penser aux mouvements des vagues de l'océan.
Elle fût composée entre 1832, et 1836 pour être publiée en 1837 destinée à la Comtesse D'Agoult qui on suppose fût instantanément subjuguée par la virtuosité, et la puissance magistrale de cette étude. Je préfère être franche avec vous, ce morceau est magistralement difficile à jouer. Sa difficulté n'étant pas de le "jouer" car il s'agit ici d'arpèges brisées, mais pour le sublimer celui-ci requiert une vitesse d'exécution rapide à vous désarticuler les doigts en moins de deux minutes...
Laissons là tout le talent de notre pianiste émerite Valentina Lisitsa en révéler toute sa candeur, sublimée d'une vitesse foudroyante pour nous affriander de toute sa prestance.
*****
En sont temps si!!!
*****
Que diantre, mais nan ;)
Que diantre = que diable...
*****
Oh...de continué gentiment...mais surement!!
*****
Pas ici...on sent le poids de chaque seconde passant...
I just listened to her again...and she is still amazing even after commenting one year ago and having since listened to numerous other versions of this piece.
I have also still NOT seen even one of the critics of her playing answering my challenge to upload one of their performances of this etude...to see how well they perform it
Amazingly stunning.
There isn't any music sheet WTF ?!
One of the most talented piano player I've ever heard and seen. I love Valentina so much.
Blessed hands...
She plays faster than the sound
As always...beautiful.
You are perfection.
Me quitó la respiración escuchar la interpretación Magistral de Valentina ! Bravo !
Valentina is the onlyone who can play it with the velocity Chopin wrote.
I love and admire you Vale Lisitsa.
Diego Portabales I recommend listening to Cziffra
No, you are wrong.
Dont make a fool of yourself
I think its very very good! Although I personally believe Pollini mastered this piece as with him, you can hear all the phrasings.
yesssss Pollini is a boss I listen to him playing the etudes all the time xd
This is for me Chopin's greatest and most passionate etude.
Yes, even op.10 no. 13 inspired by the Russian attack in Varsavia is very passionate
For the people who say it's too loud - the dynamic marking about 3/4 of the way through is "il piu forte possible" - "as loud as possible."
역시~! '갓' 렌티나리시차
This sounds looks like ocean troubled waves, but Chopin never called "Ocean" to this Etude. It was writen inmediatelly close to the op10n12, in 1831, Viena, leaving to the Russians conquist of Varsovia inspirated becose of that,and also loosing a girl he loved in Varsovia. Thats the reasson of the tragic minor tunes.
Very tragic. And massive intense emotion
It was written in 1836 by the way not in 1831. But you're right, this etude could be the ''revolutionnaire' instead of the op10 n12
Mohamed Cherif Revolutionary shows more of Chopin’s anger and this, his turmoil and sadness.
Brava! Absolutely gorgeous!
The brilliant sound of the grand + the amazing skills and emotions valentina = A master piece
People - these are ETUDES - each focusing on a particular technical skill (or six). Get it? The point is sheer technical mastery.
No, the point is both technique and musicality...
They are concert etudes, but i think valentina performs them well either way
겁나 아무것도 아닌 거 같이 편하게 치넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I just love everything You play!
Beautiful. As usual.
It's so sad to read all the critical remarks about such an amazing accomplishment. I would like some of you critics upload your versions of these 24 etudes and let's see if you can back up your criticism with a better performance then this one by Valentina. She is so steady and relaxed, despite the power and "intensity" of her sound and the emotion of her interpretations, especially this last one opus 25, no. 12....and her performance of all these etudes is of such uniform virtuosity throughout the entire repertoire of etudes, I would challenge anyone else match this degree of consistency.
Those of you who are critical must all be expert piano students, which is why so many of you are so blase about Valentina's performance. That may be understandable because many of you probably play these etudes very well, but to the average musician or to a layman, playing such complex pieces so easily and flawlessly is incredible to behold. The non piano playing audience are ignorant of the complicated chord structures, two handed independent rhythms and difficult key signatures that Chopin tested with these etudes, and to them the pianist may as well be sliding their fingers over a FLAT table. But those of you who play piano must know how difficult it is reach this level of accomplishment.
I paid my way through high school, college and law school playing piano, accordion and organ professionally but I never played classical music until I was 50 years old and was overcome by the desire to play something more challenging then popular music. I was basically a "gypsy" type musician in the sense that I played with great "feeling" but with little technique because it was not required. Once I started playing CHOPIN piano busters I started to appreciate the sheer "physical " accomplishment of just being able to perform them and to do so without mistakes despite their great complexity, and then to also add great "feeling" or musicality is something even the greatest pianists fell short of.
Despite the fact that I was a competitive athlete in several sports and could play tennis or squash for hours, I got exhausted and my fingers felt like they were falling off after playing only a few minutes of any major Chopin work....let alone 24 etudes which look like they were recorded one after the other.
Valentina's performance is a masterful " TOUR DE FORCE" both artistically and physically, and would be acknowledged as such by all but the most cynical and jealous competitors and is not justified. SHE IS GREAT...not to mention she has to be one of the most beautiful performers ever to grace the classical keyboard.
Those of us who are 'critical' think, that music is not about playing fast, but about sending a message. Everything should be devoted to that. There is music execution here, with little to no thinking. You don't get excited when you see the idling engine? No message, only a show. Message comes from variety, from subtle nuances, from differences (like any information). Slow or fast, loud or quiet, crescendo or diminuendo, relation of bass to high notes volume, melody on the sound pillow of arpeggios. Comparing Lisitza to many other pianists around I see that she is one of the show makers rather than thinkers and explorers. At least in many cases.
And if you want a real "tour de force", search for Berezovsky performing all transcedental etudes in one concert.
As HOROWITZ often said when talking about critics. " it is all just a matter of opinion"...he meant both good and bad.
You may not share my feelings about the performances of Lisitza but that is okay. I feel she does have excellent expression and musicality and her performances are not just mechanical and robotic at all.
Some critics used to call HOROWITZ'S performances not very musical, so the only valid test of the quality of someone's performance is the general consensus of many different people.
Whatever, the pianists who can attain this level of virtuosity are to be admired for their skill and dedication. Only other piano players could really appreciate what they are doing and how hard it is.
To people who don't know the piano, these great pianists may as well be playing on a flat board with no notes and no key signatures, etc.
TOO BAD for them. The rest of us who understand piano can disagree on the status of a particular performer or another, but at least we understand what they are doing and appreciate it.
Mine is the greatest but she comes very close ;)
Leon Maliniak I'm so glad you wrote all that. I completely agree.
Thanks...I hate when people trash others without justification.
Lisitza is a great pianist and as good as any modern piano star that I have heard...and she is also BEAUTIFUL to look at...which is an added bonus to attracting new piano fans to this craft
Again I issue the challenge to the critics to upload their performance s of these difficult pieces and let's see how they compare
omg eyes closed playing Chopin .....
i keep coming back to this time and again. i can't believe you put these amazing recordings on youtube for free. this is among the finest production quality i've ever seen on this site.
Absolutely amazing! I am speechless as to what to say next...just... wow...amazing
My hands ache so much after playing this. Valentina has really strong piano hands for a woman, I envy her so much for that and many other things lol.
This's the easiest and most satisfying etude of those I've played!!
I'm so loving this performance. Have heard many different versions and even attempted playing myself (and of course I'm now where playing as cool as this)... this is the best interpretation for me.
Is there any way I can like this video a billion times? Extraordinarily beautiful performance.
This is always my favourite of Chopin's etudes. Listening, I was surprised why some of the mis-steps at the front (at least they seemed there to my ears) weren't replayed and then I heard how the second half sounded and (unless you're Gould, editing out errors), you can't get away with that in a live video, and you have to live with each performance as a whole, and it's definitely a keeper (if the smile didn't tell you so too).
I know Lisitsa is more than merely fast(er) (and generally more accurate even at those speeds than anyone else), and in something like an etude that asset becomes utterly helpful, cuz for an etude, barely anything is more breathtaking than hearing its technical challenges absolutely stomped by technique and ability. I also don't think musicality gets sacrificed in the process, at least not in this set.
All things considered, this etude has always struck me as one of most challenging. On the one hand, there's basically only one "technique" throughout, so if you get that down, you're probably already in the clear. But there's something really counterintuitive for my hands in how Chopin stacks his arpeggios here. If I have any "defense" of this idea, it's that Lisitsa doesn't look like her usual 100% "I'm in control here" with her hands floating over the keys so adroitly that it hardly seems they're being depressed.
All of which is to say, about this particular etude, it's really cool to hear the massive tempestuousness of the Ocean so powerfully realized, rolling continuously over the whole breadth of the keys. Thanks!
Check Martha Argerich
It sounds like a finale Rachmaninov concerto, is not Chopin, for me, awesome pianist by the way,
it have to be fast because another name is ocean. xD
Names :"Ocean", "Winter Wind", "Butterfly" etcetera are not by Chopin.
i know, but people gave the name because that sounds like Ocean and like Winter wind
okay :)
So if anyone was wondering was a snob sounds like...
素晴らしいです♡
Beautiful, thank you so much.