The New York Open: Failure From Day 1
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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New Stadium. New Court Surface. Major Tennis Area. What could go wrong? Well... everything.
Launched in 2018 as the 'NEXT BIG THING' for professional tennis, the New York Open ATP tennis tournament has ultimately gone down in history as a major failure, having been CANCELLED after only 3 years of operation. For such a promising and hyped event, why did the New York Open flop so spectacularly?
🎥: Big thanks to Tweener Head for lending his tournament footage for this video! / tweenerhead
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My dad actually went to this tournament and the stadium was so empty that he got to sit in the players box of Victor Estrella Burgos after chatting it up with his coach and wife 😂
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@Jurtez Lupa hit that stfu
Really?
I live in New York. Another problem with this event was that nobody knew it existed. I only went the final year in 2020, and the bigger names (Isner, Anderson, Raonic) all lost in their opening matches. The crowd was more enganged in the doubles match where Opelka and Johnson were partners than in the singles matches.
Lmfao I live here too and this is literally the first I’ve heard of it. It’s like they didn’t even try advertising.
Yeah, about those appearance fees, collect yo' money then just have a bad opening day.
no, I thought this video is about US open, which is walkable to the stadium from where I live.
@@darkhalo153 Also live in NYC. Go to US Open every year. Never heard of this. It is outside the city though
6:57 "and future top 10 player Donald Young"
You literally never cease to amaze, CT 😂
Lol maybe top 10 among U.S. players.....
@@wj7867 it’s a running joke on the channel
@@wj7867 Clear mistake, everyone here knows Donald Young is not a top 10 player, but the greatest one in 21st century.
@@wj7867 I'm guessing sarcasm isn't your strong suit.
And to think that I got attacked on Twitter for saying that Donald was an unaccomplished tennis player who never lived up to the expectations. Evidently, as you would expect from the world we live in, it was quickly turned into a racial matter.
I live on Long Island, work right near where the tournament was held. NOBODY in the area knew this tournament existed! No advertising anywhere beyond Tennis Channel. Didn't even have traffic issues in the area, something that normally existed when the Islanders played.
i only hears about it though instagram,
they need to advertise more because i live 20 mins away from it and i havent heard of it since last year
Who knew that New Yorkers would socially distance themselves at this event before it became mainstream?
Never thought of that.
😂😂😂
True 😆.
This is literally the week that everyone I know started social distancing though IIRC so maybe?
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You should get out there and give it a go! Great exercise and fun no matter your level. It can get frustrating but that's only if you take it seriously which obviously isn't required
Same. I work at a boxing gym and am thinking about trying tennis as cross-training.
If you’re into sports and fitness, once you tried tennis… it’ll become a lifetime sport.
Same! Tho I would love to try.
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I remember this tournament because in it there was a match with record breaking amount of aces in a best of 3 match. Opelka vs Isner. Opelka hit 43 and Isner 38 if my memory serves me.
If half the points played were aces, it must be the most boring tennis match ever.
Dayum
Cant believe I can say this but I was there that day. I'm kiiinda proud for staying back for the night session, even though I technically only had the ticket to the day session. I just decided to hide in the corner, quietly watching the doubles players practice on the other court. The match was a lot of fun too, Isner played really well taking the first set. But Reilly just hung in there and impressed us right away by showing some surprising shot tolerance and ability to grind despite his size. Some clutch groundstroke winners were the difference. Also, the crowd seemed to really be backing "Ry-guy". Great match, although a bit predictable until the tie-breakers.
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I ballboyed for this event and my lord was it empty lol. Gotta say it was pretty cool to hang with the players in such an intimate atmosphere
I went to the last 3 days of the 2020 Event. It was kind of fun being at such a small high level tennis tournament. I didn't realize it was going to be the last days of the whole event, or possibly the last three days of the Coliseum in general.
That black court is beautiful, the perfect colour contrast. I hope another tournament uses this idea.
It isn’t really black though is it .
Meh, I just see a grey/dark brown look
I'd preferred a jet black court with white borders and maybe make the seating white or neon green to give that contrast
It all looked just grey and dull
I think perfect would be actual black and yellow lines
@@savioblanc it might be hard to see ball if seats neon
As long as it's inside because if that was in the sun....whew.
Yeah I always questioned the scheduling. New York winter is no joke. The best place for this tournament would have been directly before the US Open. Like Sydney before the AO, Lyon before the FO and Eastbourne right before Wimbledon. You’d capitalize on fans already being in NY…
I don't think the players and the ATP would accept an indoor tournament just before the US Open. The run ups to the US Open are all outdoors so playing conditions replicate those of the Open and in fact the US Open organizers would never allow it as it would siphon ticket sales away from the Open, especially among middle class people.
Yeah, like I imagine nobody is going to travel to NYC, then find a way to Nassau, in winter.
If it was more IN the city it probably would have done better but nah, they decided to go to a stadium that every major leauge sport has left.
@@williamford9564 us open and all grand slams. Demands exceed supply
The investors were idiots that didn't know much about the tennis calendar.
As someone who lives near NY, I was so upset when I found out that this was canceled forever. Thanks for telling me why!!
The home of the black court will be missed. RIP
no it wont..its fugly and looks depressing
@@user-be5qg7mr1s its black. what do you expect
I was one of the 2111 people at the final in 2019, caught a ball signed by Reilly
cool :)
@@nizzo4211 wasn't the most entertaining final tho...
I was there just the day before on semifinals day! It was fun but yeah, had to drive like 3 hours from New Jersey to get there. The setting was extreeemely awkward and remote.
I went to the championship match the year Opelka won. I brought my GF. I live in BK. It took so long to get there by public transport and then eventually Uber. The town we landed in by the Long Island Railroad was so ugly, and if she wasn't there with me, I would have really regretted buying the tickets. The Stadium was actually a cool place to see tennis, but the crowd was low even for the final match. So, in the end, don't regret going but planned to never go again. Great video. You hit the nail on the head.
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Wow that's very interesting, never heard of this tournament before!
P.S: your level of editing is just getting ridiculous now... specially that bit with the empty crowd, insane!
Always such kind words.. Thank you!!
Never heard of this or they failed to market new york open. Do we have LA Open
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You didn't even watch the video
@@jmn4276 lmao.
@@jmn4276 How do you know?
@@aidanking1501 when this guy commented the video was only 3 minutes old. how could this guy have watched the vid in 3 minutes.
Not really if someone calls Donald Young a future top 10.
DUDE WHEN IT USED TO BE THE MEMPHIS OPEN IT WAS SO FUN! PEOPLE ACTUALLY WENT TO MEMPHIS OPEN!
I remember seeing this on my TV channel guide ( I didn't even know there was a tournament) and tuning in to a match in 2020. My first two reactions were " Who are the dudes playing in the match ( both had rankings outside the Top 100)?" and "there are no people in the seats". ( It was played before the pandemic shut down).
A guy I know paid ~ $7 for court side seats and saw Nishikori and some other pretty well known players there. Yeah, $7 ain't sustainable.
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Hard courts on wood is a norm for most indoor tournaments these days, including the ATP Finals
ATP finals in London have not been on wood (and it’s been there for 10 years)
@@bengray5013 you are wrong. Just double checked with the guy who has played it 🤷♂️ It’s a classic thing to paint hard surface and have wood underneath. Almost all indoor tournaments are this way right now. All French ones, Vienna, St Petersburg, Moscow. Only Stockholm has a regular hard and Memphis from what I’ve played I believe.
@@Illya_Marchenko sorry but the atp finals in London are not layed over wood... So no, I'm not wrong, you are.
Lol, whatever 🤣🤦🏻♂️
@@Illya_Marchenko you can literally watch a video on the atp channel of the surface being laid at the atp finals in London at the o2 arena, there is no wood beneath it...
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7:04 that transition to from article snippets to T-line was *chef's kiss*
Wooden tennisfloor sounds really interesting. Hope to see it one day in a more prominent tournament.
Australian open uses wood
Australian Open is played outdoors. They are not wooden courts.
These courts were used in the barn storming PTO tours of the 1930s-1950s. The courts were packaged and carried along from city to city.
I'm sitting in bed, eating Subway and watching a new video uploaded by the GOAT himself. Bliss.
Its a real shame because wood courts are really great to play on. I'd love to see a masters level tournament adopt it as a surface.
feel like “future top ten player donald young” is underselling him, he’ll be #1 soon
xD
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Good one.
He could be #1 American soon. But then again so could anyone with a racquet and two feet.
Are u serious Donald young is hopeless player now
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They actually gave our college tennis club free tickets to the event in 2019…I see why now! Great video 😩
Did u went to the event?
@@marlon7826 Unfortunately no, I’m pretty far from the city. Someone in our club did though!
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I remember hearing about this tournament and I live in the Midwest. It's just that hearing. They should have done massive advertising and didn't. Btw great history you presented, learned a lot , thanks.
Wow this video is so accurate! I went to the 2020 ny open, early rounds on a week day, and I remember being shocked at how empty the stands were. And I remember the large groups of school kids and thinking that it was kind of random. It was a cool experience, as a tennis fan, in that it was so different than the us open. You could sit where ever, get autographs from the players, take your time doing whatever because not a whole lot was happening. And there really is nothing in the area other than a McDonald’s across the street, which we went to because the food was super expensive. It reminded me of us open fan week/qualifiers minus all the fans.
If only New Yorkers realized that New York winters are almost perfect, you have snow, and your 'freezing' temperatures are ones most of the northern hemisphere would kill for. Not too cold, not too warm.
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How can someone dislike such a good video
I think you also forgot to mention something regarding the New York Open's timing: it is held practically immediately after the Australian Open series has ended, and is on the other side of the world. I'm not saying that people would have had their fill of tennis from one of the Grand Slam tournaments (and its associated tournaments), nor am I saying that tennis players wouldn't be prepared to travel to the other side of the world after such a major tournament, but I can't imagine it would help.
It's actually held around the second or third week of February, usually along with the ABM Amro Open being played in Rotterdam and a South American clay event. And usually, February is when there are tons of indoor HC or South American clay tournaments being played.
When I was 10, they had this Memphis open qualifier for the top players in tennessee(10U) and I was one of them and I was lucky enough to qualify to play in the Memphis open, obv not the professional tourney, but there was another tourney at the same time as the pro one one that I played in. Professional matches usually are later in the day, so I always had really early matches. It was the most amazing experience I’ve ever had in my tennis career. Got to meet a bunch of pros behind the scenes too. The Memphis open always holds a special place in my heart.
I'm glad the NY Open is being replaced with a new tournament in Dallas, Texas. It'll be great to have a pro level tournament in this region of the U.S.
Yeah i've seen Challengers with more notability / attendance than this tournament 😅
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Very interesting! Thank you for making a video on this. 👍
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wow! this is something that I actually attended. even though I only knew a couple of the players, I thought it was high quality tennis in comfortable indoors. food was overpriced and average though
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7:02 ooh, stylish transition :)
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say, for example, it ran in the same week as the Atlanta Open, or directly after the US Open/in the second week of the US Open. Would that give the tournament more traction, do you think, since it would be more likely to net players that didn't do too well in Flushing Meadows? Or was this tour just destined not to succeed?
This tournament was just never destined to succeed. It wouldn't work having this played in the summer during the lead-up to the USO due to the fact that all the tournaments are played on outdoor hard courts, using Decoturf.
This tournament was meant to be a replacement to the Memphis tournament, which was always played in February. Perhaps had this tournament been able to be played at the Barclay's Center or MSG, it could have done better, as there would be plenty to do in NYC. But there was no chance of being able to have any of those venues free for a week.
The SA Open in South Africa was only hosted for 2 years in a row. It’s the shortest lives ATP Tournament ever
as someone who lives on long island and went to the NY Open twice, this video was painful to watch
Donald Young as future top 10 player reminds me of little Simba strutting around telling the hyenas that he is their future king.
Bruh the non stop abuse of Donald young and tomic is hilarious
I'm from Long Island, and I never knew that the New York Open was a thing. Sure, I'm not a fan of tennis, but I think I would've heard about this prior.
But I think most people here on Long Island just don't care about tennis, especially during February where we focus more on the Islanders (Or, if you're a fake Long Islander, the Rangers), or the Knicks or Nets.
The other issue, the one you stated, is that city folks would not want to drive there. But the bigger problem is that there isn't a reasonable train station from the city to Nassau Coliseum via the Long Island Rail Road. The closest ones are Hempstead on the Hempstead Branch, or Carle Place on the Main Line, both being about 2 miles away from the stadium. Besides, city elitists would never dare to sit near plain Long Island folk, on the train or in the stadium.
Semi-jokes aside, now that UBS Arena in Elmont is finished, and especially with a direct train connection that is especially useful to bring city folks to the stadium, maybe they could try a second shot at the New York Open? Maybe bring more of a connection to the local area in the name. The Long Island Open? Maybe the Belmont Open, to associate it closer to Belmont Park and the famous Belmont Stakes, the final leg of the Triple Crown?
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The tournament was a failure the moment it announced the Nassau Coliseum would be the venue. Had it been played at the Barclays Center or MSG, or anywhere within Manhattan or Brooklyn, the story would have been completely different.
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The last point is the biggest: 250s are very difficult to keep running. Tennis is all about the big names. Los Angeles used to have 1 in the summer; incredible list of former champions - Ashe, Connors, etc. Agassi and Sampras played it. Edberg. UCLA Campus with very nice 5000 seat stadium. But as top players started only playing the 1000s as warmups to the US Open, the field quality dropped dramatically. Then they had problems keeping title sponsors and… off to Bogota. Which also didn’t last long and it’s now in Cabo.
I played high school tennis and one school had wood under a thin layer of hard court and it was terrible there were dead spots and extra extra bouncy spots and in general it was way bouncier than normal
“No one came” - sounds like a bad night, let alone a bad week!! 😂
Today I was like, I hope cult tennis uploads today, and guess what, the king UPLOADS!
Yes, the attendance numbers were low but somewhat similar of this level event. Hard to compare to the US Open which trumps all other tournaments. Great event. Sad to see it leave Long Island.
What editing software do you use? Great video!
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Basically this was the new SAP Open, I remember right after the Australian Open this tournament would take place so players who didn't do well in Australia would come and get some matches before Indian Wells/Miami Combo. It was indoors, at a hockey arena with a temp surface and even would use courts nearby to host some of the "lesser" known players for singles and doubles. At least that was in a major city, in downtown and gave players and fans stuff to do.
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Howard Stern sold out the Nassau Coliseum for a tennis match against his producer in 1989; they sold16,000 tickets for $22.50 each on under 4 hours. Then they released the event on home video, titled U.S. Open Sores.
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As someone who has spent a lot of time living/working in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Nassau, there is a glaring unmentioned reason why "Home of the Black Court" would be a problematic title . ESPECIALLY in Nassau.
those are some fancy computer doodles ngl
Have you watched any ATP 250 event during the day?? The stands are never full, find a new slant
As a Long Island resident, I completely understand the guy who said that it was good his girlfriend was there. Nassau Coliseum isn’t the best location but it’s somewhat close to museum row and Roosevelt field mall. Ny Weather is dismal in February as any Long Island resident would know, especially following this winter’s weather. Even the Islanders moved from the Coliseum. You know it’s bad when the Islanders think it’s bad.
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I live in Westchester, and I knew about this tournament, but it was in February. The prospect of getting stuck in already horrendous Long Island traffic in a snowstorm was not appealing.
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Outstanding and enjoyable production about an event I've never even heard of.
Its a shame that a new surface concept that actually seemed to work had to fail like that.
Amazong video! you know, I couldnt help but notice that the letter E is the only letter in lowercase at 9:34 just thought id throw that out there lol
New even heard of. New York open......😨😨😨
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Pretty insane that NYC can't have a second tournament given how popular tennis is...
I literally live 10 minutes from the Nassau Coliseum, and this is the first I'm hearing about the existence of this tournament. WHAT!?!?!?!? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ And it went on for several years?? The marketing for this event was a massive, massive fail. We could have gone and seen ATP tennis for cheap 10 minutes from home and gotten super close to the courts with the near empty stadium. Wow, what a fail to inform the public, totally unreal.
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1:00 Did I dream or the ball boy is catching the ball before it touched ground when rally wasn't over ? I'm guessing the serve was called out before that.
Hmm. I see what you mean & agree. The call out must have been immediate (one would think/hope); there was little for them to do other than catch the ball being returned to them. Neat catch. I know it's nothing scandalous, I just like seeing how different things unfold.
@@kneau It struck me because I do remember a French Open match, I think, in the 90s, with, I think, Becker playing, where a ballboy caught the ball midair without letting it bounce when it was clearly out, and the umpire reprimanding him for that. I think rules stipulate that point would have to be replayed in such circumstances.
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Huge mistake to have the tournament in Long Island. Nobody was gonna drive to the middle of nowhere in Nassau from Manhattan, and getting there via public transportation is impossible. The players hated it. The tournament should have been held at MSG, the Jacob Javits Center in Manhattan, or the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.