Separating out the specific parts and tools for each of the seven step assembly process steps was brilliant on the part of the manufacturer. For the price, I am impressed at how sturdy this ruclips.net/user/postUgkxvObaTzoHoHQLL4lHbJQmExHqsrZQm-f7 unit is and it does go together easily. Well, I was puzzled at first at Step 5 and maybe the instructions should mention that rail #62 needs to be tilted upwards a little to get the rail to fit into the main part #44. I like it that the rower can be stored vertically in a really small amount of space, but be forewarned that this rower is top heavy and for safety you'll need at least two bungee cords to keep the unit upright, attaching them to something; in my case to a third garage door. I have had this unit only a short time, and I will post an update once I've had it for a year. As for working your legs, I have to admit that I'm mainly rowing for upper body strength and I use other forms of exercise for leg strength (like walking fast, biking, or using a trampoline. But if you pull as far forward as possible, then you can give preference to your legs for the first 4 feet or so of travel. I also admit to not taking the two electronic connectors apart at Step 7. I simply inserted the two batteries while the other parts remained connected. By the way, there is plenty of resistance here, even in the lowest resistance settings. Kudos to Sunny Health & Fitness !
I got a Concept 2 Model C rower back in 1994. Since I got my rower 28 years ago I purchased the newer style draw bar with a slight bend that comes with the Model D forward and added the thin cushion for the seat. YMMV but that thin cushion makes big difference to how long I can comfortably go longer distances. But to echo his comments, it is a bulletproof machine that just keeps going and going.
Went with the Sunny Health two years ago. The benefit of magnets is that they are quiet, which the neighbor upstairs appreciates. Maxing out resistance is a waste, maybe good for the ego but your form suffers. At a third of the price, it's an excellent no frills machine. I use it multiple times a week, and it's great for a quick warm up before lifting. Concept2 would be nice, but having more money for other equipment to complete my home gym was a big plus. I've been rowing on the water this summer and love it.
As someone who owned Sunny equipment before a heed of caution: you get what you paid for. That is all. Lol Aside, glad it's working out for you, but the saying is true.
One of the best things about Aviron is they listen to their customers throughout their social media communities and make improvements. Since the first iteration came out, they've increased the handle width, added streaming media like Netflix, Disney, Spotify, etc to use right on the device while you row (surprised Coop didn't mention this), and now they just came out with quicker released straps. They strive to improve based on feedback and you really don't find that with many products these days.
I’m a rower and my team uses concept 2s because they are built like tanks and they emulate the feeling of rowing in water better than any other machine. If you want a bit more excitement when on their erg, get the sliders for the erg to really get a good on water technique driven experience.
I've been using resistance bands because of space and budget 😂 still get really good workouts given the circumstances. Thanks Coop for the amazing content.
I have a concept 2 model E and love it... Flipped some dynamic models and model Ds but like the additional hieght and you can store things underneath which is beneficial for a home gym.
I totally agree with your comments on both machines, congratulate you for the information you provide it’s very truthful, I just want to add that both machines are great. If you’re going to buy one, get the Concept2, if you will have to buy another one because you have two locations or a secondary location for the weekend let’s say, then get there Waterrower, that’s what I did!
I'm on a weightloss journey, and I recently got below 500 pounds, which is the listed max weight of the concept2 rower, so I'm thinking about getting one for exercise in the winter when I can't swim. It's interesting how it's pretty much the highest listed max weight for any piece of cardio equipment you can buy, most of even the heavy duty ones max out at 400 pounds.
With Rowers, the C2 is the default choice. You don't start with a list of features you want and see if you end up there. You start there, and then see if there are features you must have that rule out the C2 (the connected thing, primarily). What people rarely point out in these reviews how C2 fits in so well with workouts featuring lifting, or core work, or other cardio. You can program the monitor for intervals of set time or distance. You do the interval, jump off, do your deadlifts or your pushups or you planks or kettlebell movements, etc. whatever, jump back on, repeat, repeat again, etc. You can do things like that on the other rowers, but they are not set up as well for it as the C2.
@@Iamsampresley Thanks man, but I'm three years and over 300 pounds into my journey. :) Cleaning and fixing up my garage into a gym the last two years has really helped change my body composition (I've probably added 30-50 pounds of muscle along with the fat loss). Started watching the channel around then.
I would choose the Rogue Fitness echo bike for weight loss. In my experience, you can exercise longer on it before getting fatigued. I’ve also found that I can do heart rate training with it a lot easier than with my Concept 2 rower.
Concept 2 has been Alpha for a long time. Waterrower has a strong reputation as well. Would like your take there. They have wooden and commercial (aluminum) models as well. Have used a few different models many times and they are a worthy rival.
I've had a water rower for years and love it. I used C2 a lot at a gym. Having used them both, I much prefer water rower. The resistance feels better. Plus, I like the looks of the water rower. Everyone who comes over comments on it.
You guys should do a review of the FrayFitness Savage series Functional trainer and power rack combo. Maybe do it compared to the Rep Fitness Ares attachment? The fray fitness rack and cable system is just over half as much as the Rep series 5000 with Ares attachment. Another interesting item is the BodyCraft RFT power rack with functional trainer combo. I think power racks with built in functional trainers are the future of home gym equipment. Keep it up guys!
@@Justify4935 I'm sure they have been working on it, but I haven't seen anything about a release date. It's been 8 years since the release of the PM5, and the PM4 was released 8 years before that, so it could come out soon
I would like to have seen the Assault Rower in this mix. Seems simple like the C2 but beefy. Maybe halfway between a C2 and what Rouge would bring to the table.
The catch is mushy and doesnt feel like on water rowing at all, and changing the drag on the fly is almost impossible bc it requires tweaking the water level, which is annoying.
I use a Coffey SimulatOar. It's more expensive than a Hydrow, but the arm and back motion is very close to rowing in a boat. It has a slider for dynamic rowing that I really enjoy also. The springs give a nice cushioning effect at the release.
Great review Coop. I am hoping to get the concept 2 next year. I am on a budget, but after seeing over the past few years not only your recommendations but others I feel it is best to save up for the best in this case.
Ignored is how much space is required to store the rower when not in use. Not everyone can dedicate the space for a rower and the ones like the Xebex that fold and have wheels to move out of the way are a necessity for having a home rower.
c2 rower for me all day, want best quality that will last through abuse and video stuff is not worth 1000buck plus. just use a tv. thanks for the video
Bodycraft vr400 is the best rower by far right now they are on sale so they cost only 300 more than concept 2 but have so many things that r better than concept 2. 7yr parts warranty, better monitor that u can upgrade to an interactive screen with no subscription, folds up and has wheels instead of breaking in 2, has a wider rage of resistance because it's not just air but also magnetic, it's smoother and stronger in general the frame is badass. U can't beat it everytime someone comes into my work looking for a concept 2 I show them the vr400 in case they would rather go with that
verdicts been in on this one. Concept2 is THE rower. The only one that that professionals and gyms use. Hydrow is for upper middle class people who want to be fit. perfectly functional but Concept2 wins out on durability and affordability.
I've been rowing since my early 20's but had to switch over to a dynamic rower when I hit 40. If you're not racing/competing and you want something easier on your lower back, ribs and hips checkout the Oartec DX dynamic rower.
The concept is great, but 2 rowers that are not heard of much and have higher resistance levels compared to any other rowers are the Bodymax Infiniti R70i and R100i, both half the price of a concept and very well built quiet magnetic air resistance rowers, worth checking out I think there fantastic 👌
I live in the EU, so many of these are more expensive here than in the USA. Do you have any knowledge on the best rowing machines in EU for under 1000 USD?
@Garage Gym Reviews can you review both the King smith WR 1 and Octane RO rowers please and give us your thoughts when you contact them for replacement parts and such.
Yeah that’s weird, WaterRowers are awesome. Probably because the feel/price is so similar to Concept 2. But I prefer the WaterRower because it’s quieter.
In addition to the strengths of the C2, there is a "garage gym culture" bias at work, IMO. You go on any lifting forum, its C2 all the time. Especially on forums focused on working out at home. Truly, that applies to the connected rowers as well. Most garage gym guys scoff at the price and features of the connected rowers. Think "cardio" (water rower, hydrow, etc.) vs "conditioning" (C2, Assault rower).
I'm glad you covered the two cheap rowers. I see them for even cheaper used on FB marketplace all the time. Not big into rowing to buy a c2 but considered them for the price.
You should have reviewed the assault rower. Beefier and the same price as the c2 rower when you account for no tax and free shipping. I never hear anything about the assault rower. I own it and it's awesome 👍. I would love to see the GGR team weigh in on it.
great review. an outdoor rowing machine might be a bit strange, but i'm looking for a device that you can have outside on the balcony (with a roof). it's clear that a water rowing machine doesn't work because of the minus temperatures in winter and the humidity damages the electronics and possibly the mechanics. maybe you still have a recommendation.
Any review on the Sports Art R260 or G260? Not a cheap machine, but WOW..... Sports Art stuff is premium for sure... thoughts? Seems like either model is the best of the best
IMO, save up and get a C2. If you don't like rowing, they retain a lot of their value on the secondary market since it will be them and the cockroaches left one day.
No mention of how much space is needed to store the different models when not in use. Some folks do not have a dedicated gym space for equipment such as this. Models that fold for storage like the ones from Xebex are much easier to roll out of the way when done with a session.
Hey Coop was wondering if you would take a look at the grind racks. I have the chaos 4000 rack and it's great for the cheap price but hard to find rack accessories that's 3x2 for 14 gauge steel.
Separating out the specific parts and tools for each of the seven step assembly process steps was brilliant on the part of the manufacturer. For the price, I am impressed at how sturdy this ruclips.net/user/postUgkxvObaTzoHoHQLL4lHbJQmExHqsrZQm-f7 unit is and it does go together easily. Well, I was puzzled at first at Step 5 and maybe the instructions should mention that rail #62 needs to be tilted upwards a little to get the rail to fit into the main part #44. I like it that the rower can be stored vertically in a really small amount of space, but be forewarned that this rower is top heavy and for safety you'll need at least two bungee cords to keep the unit upright, attaching them to something; in my case to a third garage door. I have had this unit only a short time, and I will post an update once I've had it for a year. As for working your legs, I have to admit that I'm mainly rowing for upper body strength and I use other forms of exercise for leg strength (like walking fast, biking, or using a trampoline. But if you pull as far forward as possible, then you can give preference to your legs for the first 4 feet or so of travel. I also admit to not taking the two electronic connectors apart at Step 7. I simply inserted the two batteries while the other parts remained connected. By the way, there is plenty of resistance here, even in the lowest resistance settings. Kudos to Sunny Health & Fitness !
I got a Concept 2 Model C rower back in 1994. Since I got my rower 28 years ago I purchased the newer style draw bar with a slight bend that comes with the Model D forward and added the thin cushion for the seat. YMMV but that thin cushion makes big difference to how long I can comfortably go longer distances. But to echo his comments, it is a bulletproof machine that just keeps going and going.
Went with the Sunny Health two years ago. The benefit of magnets is that they are quiet, which the neighbor upstairs appreciates. Maxing out resistance is a waste, maybe good for the ego but your form suffers. At a third of the price, it's an excellent no frills machine. I use it multiple times a week, and it's great for a quick warm up before lifting. Concept2 would be nice, but having more money for other equipment to complete my home gym was a big plus. I've been rowing on the water this summer and love it.
As someone who owned Sunny equipment before a heed of caution: you get what you paid for. That is all. Lol
Aside, glad it's working out for you, but the saying is true.
One of the best things about Aviron is they listen to their customers throughout their social media communities and make improvements. Since the first iteration came out, they've increased the handle width, added streaming media like Netflix, Disney, Spotify, etc to use right on the device while you row (surprised Coop didn't mention this), and now they just came out with quicker released straps. They strive to improve based on feedback and you really don't find that with many products these days.
I don’t know how you’re able to watch anything while rowing with so much back and forth movement and moving head
Concept 2 is an absolute classic and will always be the baseline for rowing machines.
And loud as hell.
I’m a rower and my team uses concept 2s because they are built like tanks and they emulate the feeling of rowing in water better than any other machine. If you want a bit more excitement when on their erg, get the sliders for the erg to really get a good on water technique driven experience.
I've been using resistance bands because of space and budget 😂 still get really good workouts given the circumstances. Thanks Coop for the amazing content.
Agree-resistance bands are extremely versatile and inexpensive. My go to on days when not feeling as strong or on days when I need an extra challenge
Could you review water rowers next? Which is better between water rowers and normal rowers?
I have a concept 2 model E and love it... Flipped some dynamic models and model Ds but like the additional hieght and you can store things underneath which is beneficial for a home gym.
I have the Concept 2 for my home gym. Best fitness purchase I’ve ever made!
Concept2!.and the skierg to, i have both.greeting from Puerto Rico🇵🇷 in the caribean.
I totally agree with your comments on both machines, congratulate you for the information you provide it’s very truthful, I just want to add that both machines are great. If you’re going to buy one, get the Concept2, if you will have to buy another one because you have two locations or a secondary location for the weekend let’s say, then get there Waterrower, that’s what I did!
Idk about rowers but coop, you are looking good. Trim and strong. Keep after it.
I'm on a weightloss journey, and I recently got below 500 pounds, which is the listed max weight of the concept2 rower, so I'm thinking about getting one for exercise in the winter when I can't swim. It's interesting how it's pretty much the highest listed max weight for any piece of cardio equipment you can buy, most of even the heavy duty ones max out at 400 pounds.
Congrats on starting your journey! It sounds like your killing it!
With Rowers, the C2 is the default choice. You don't start with a list of features you want and see if you end up there. You start there, and then see if there are features you must have that rule out the C2 (the connected thing, primarily).
What people rarely point out in these reviews how C2 fits in so well with workouts featuring lifting, or core work, or other cardio. You can program the monitor for intervals of set time or distance. You do the interval, jump off, do your deadlifts or your pushups or you planks or kettlebell movements, etc. whatever, jump back on, repeat, repeat again, etc.
You can do things like that on the other rowers, but they are not set up as well for it as the C2.
Saw your channel intro and your most recent upload, can see a difference in face already! Keep at it!
@@Iamsampresley Thanks man, but I'm three years and over 300 pounds into my journey. :) Cleaning and fixing up my garage into a gym the last two years has really helped change my body composition (I've probably added 30-50 pounds of muscle along with the fat loss). Started watching the channel around then.
I would choose the Rogue Fitness echo bike for weight loss. In my experience, you can exercise longer on it before getting fatigued. I’ve also found that I can do heart rate training with it a lot easier than with my Concept 2 rower.
I got the old stamina air rower and it kicks ass. For under 1000 it’s a great option if you’re not getting free rowers for home use
Concept 2 has been Alpha for a long time. Waterrower has a strong reputation as well. Would like your take there. They have wooden and commercial (aluminum) models as well. Have used a few different models many times and they are a worthy rival.
I've had a water rower for years and love it. I used C2 a lot at a gym. Having used them both, I much prefer water rower. The resistance feels better. Plus, I like the looks of the water rower. Everyone who comes over comments on it.
@@cetatlantawhich one did you get?
Matrix (magnetic resistant)I just got the rower and absolutely love it. I also have the Matrix S Drive magnetic resistance treadmill !
A good option is the Vulcan Scull Rower. I have a Concept 2 and my friend has the Vulcan and it’s 95% as good for a good amount cheaper.
I have the Stamina air rower and it gets the job done!
You guys should do a review of the FrayFitness Savage series Functional trainer and power rack combo. Maybe do it compared to the Rep Fitness Ares attachment? The fray fitness rack and cable system is just over half as much as the Rep series 5000 with Ares attachment. Another interesting item is the BodyCraft RFT power rack with functional trainer combo. I think power racks with built in functional trainers are the future of home gym equipment. Keep it up guys!
Just ordered my first rower. Concept 2 D. I'm so excited!
You will almost certainly love it. And if you don't, you can sell it instantly, because they don't last very long on the used market.
Thanks for the comparison, the Augletics Eight is also a very good machine developed by pro rowers.
Hey Coop, I just ordered the C2 with your link. Thanks for the sweet videos.
Public service announcement: Concept2 will be raising the price of the RowErg from $900 to $990 on September 1
Aren't they also coming with the new PM6 monitor?
@@Justify4935 I'm sure they have been working on it, but I haven't seen anything about a release date. It's been 8 years since the release of the PM5, and the PM4 was released 8 years before that, so it could come out soon
I will get one soon!
I would like to have seen the Assault Rower in this mix. Seems simple like the C2 but beefy. Maybe halfway between a C2 and what Rouge would bring to the table.
I'll second this. After it was used at wodapalooza I heard alot saying its a totally different feeling than a c2
I'd like to know your opinion on the rowers where they use water as the mechanism over the magnets & air.
The catch is mushy and doesnt feel like on water rowing at all, and changing the drag on the fly is almost impossible bc it requires tweaking the water level, which is annoying.
Love the tempo of this video. Shorter and straight to the point 🤝
Love these reviews Coop! Would love to see a review of the best folding squat rack for 2022!
I use a Coffey SimulatOar. It's more expensive than a Hydrow, but the arm and back motion is very close to rowing in a boat. It has a slider for dynamic rowing that I really enjoy also. The springs give a nice cushioning effect at the release.
HydroRow now has the Just Row feature that doesn't require a membership 🎉
No thoughts on WaterRower?
Great review Coop. I am hoping to get the concept 2 next year. I am on a budget, but after seeing over the past few years not only your recommendations but others I feel it is best to save up for the best in this case.
Ignored is how much space is required to store the rower when not in use. Not everyone can dedicate the space for a rower and the ones like the Xebex that fold and have wheels to move out of the way are a necessity for having a home rower.
c2 rower for me all day, want best quality that will last through abuse and video stuff is not worth 1000buck plus. just use a tv. thanks for the video
Bodycraft vr400 is the best rower by far right now they are on sale so they cost only 300 more than concept 2 but have so many things that r better than concept 2. 7yr parts warranty, better monitor that u can upgrade to an interactive screen with no subscription, folds up and has wheels instead of breaking in 2, has a wider rage of resistance because it's not just air but also magnetic, it's smoother and stronger in general the frame is badass. U can't beat it everytime someone comes into my work looking for a concept 2 I show them the vr400 in case they would rather go with that
verdicts been in on this one.
Concept2 is THE rower. The only one that that professionals and gyms use.
Hydrow is for upper middle class people who want to be fit. perfectly functional but Concept2 wins out on durability and affordability.
I've been rowing since my early 20's but had to switch over to a dynamic rower when I hit 40. If you're not racing/competing and you want something easier on your lower back, ribs and hips checkout the Oartec DX dynamic rower.
Thanks!
I've been looking for a rower too. Thanks for the video!
OKay First time seeing this post on rowers - holy crap! “Throw out the cheap rowers”😂
Some people are saying the Pro-form 750R can only be used if you blue tooth to it via some device. Is this correct ???
Thanks I picked up a concept 2
nice review, but I'm surprised Waterrower wasn't included
Very helpful. Thanks
Subbed because I love this type of content test out all these products!
I have the peloton row it’s the best rower in my opinion
Ergata review? Please.
Why wasn't the Nordictrack RW900 in the mix? I would have also like to see Coop mention the monthly subscription costs of each.
Please review the King Smith WR1 Foldable Row Machine. It’s $550ish and looks great for small spaces
Concept2, and you do not have to think about another rowers. The standard, it has garmin connection too, i can fit the rowing to another activities.
The whipr actually fills a niche I've been looking for. Not going to use it for rowing but I really wanted the type of resistance row machines had.
No water rower?!?
What about TechnoGym skillrow?
The concept is great, but 2 rowers that are not heard of much and have higher resistance levels compared to any other rowers are the Bodymax Infiniti R70i and R100i, both half the price of a concept and very well built quiet magnetic air resistance rowers, worth checking out I think there fantastic 👌
Hey Coop & Team, love y’all’s content, thanks for all the work that goes into the videos!
What do y’all think of the LIT Water Rower??
Hello, have you review any hydraulic rowers?
I am saving up for a Concept 2 RowERG. If you want a more expensive rowing machine set aside some money.
Coop, cover the Harambe System!
You have to do a review for the Xebex Airplus Rower 4.0 which has Air & Magnetic resistance
So I take it hydraulic rowers are not recommended?
You should compare the "total gym incline row" to those other rowers
Have you ever used a full motion rower?
I am having a pain in my knee. I think is the meniscus. Should I use the rower?
I live in the EU, so many of these are more expensive here than in the USA. Do you have any knowledge on the best rowing machines in EU for under 1000 USD?
This is nice always wanted one , but I'm mostly excited for Rep Fitness new selective lat pull down for the 4000/5000 (Omni) Power Rack
@Garage Gym Reviews can you review both the King smith WR 1 and Octane RO rowers please and give us your thoughts when you contact them for replacement parts and such.
Which is the quietest for people who live in apartments… I don’t want my neighbors to hate me 😆 thank you in advance 🙏
Why no love for the WaterRower?
Yeah that’s weird, WaterRowers are awesome. Probably because the feel/price is so similar to Concept 2. But I prefer the WaterRower because it’s quieter.
In addition to the strengths of the C2, there is a "garage gym culture" bias at work, IMO. You go on any lifting forum, its C2 all the time. Especially on forums focused on working out at home. Truly, that applies to the connected rowers as well. Most garage gym guys scoff at the price and features of the connected rowers. Think "cardio" (water rower, hydrow, etc.) vs "conditioning" (C2, Assault rower).
We love our hydrow
Why so orange ?
Green is the traditional colour to look more hench, works for The Hulk at least 😆
Big love from England
Please review DOMYOS Bumper plates or equipments on the next video!!!!!
I'm glad you covered the two cheap rowers. I see them for even cheaper used on FB marketplace all the time. Not big into rowing to buy a c2 but considered them for the price.
The Stamina air rower is pretty decent!
Just got my air one from fb for $50! Came to comments to say the same thing
Hey Coop, thank you for all that you do. Which model xero shoes are those? Anybody know? Thank you
You should have reviewed the assault rower. Beefier and the same price as the c2 rower when you account for no tax and free shipping. I never hear anything about the assault rower. I own it and it's awesome 👍. I would love to see the GGR team weigh in on it.
No RP3??
What are your thoughts on the Nordic Track RW600?
Do you know which row computers show estimated time of finish? I know concept 2 does, but are there any others you know of? Thanks!
was hoping to see a comparison of the Xebex rower. my understanding of it is its very comparable to the C2
great review. an outdoor rowing machine might be a bit strange, but i'm looking for a device that you can have outside on the balcony (with a roof). it's clear that a water rowing machine doesn't work because of the minus temperatures in winter and the humidity damages the electronics and possibly the mechanics. maybe you still have a recommendation.
I got a kingsmith wr1 foldable water rowing machine for less than $500. What are your thoughts on water rowers?
Lol says sorry Sam and then laughs😭😭
I'd like to know about the noise level for each rower.
Can you review the Vulcan Scull Rower?
No mention of Hydrow Wave
Sol sr500 550lb rating 2:47
What do you think about water rowers?
What's the brand of the shoes you use ?? (The grey ones) it looks like minimal shoes. Thanks for all your work !
You need to add the Peloton Row to the list now that its out
Any review on the Sports Art R260 or G260? Not a cheap machine, but WOW..... Sports Art stuff is premium for sure...
thoughts?
Seems like either model is the best of the best
have you reviewed the ergatta yet? looks interesting, quiet, fun, just not sure about the foot placement
Review the Versa Rower.
IMO, save up and get a C2. If you don't like rowing, they retain a lot of their value on the secondary market since it will be them and the cockroaches left one day.
What about Technogym's SkillRow?
Boom goes the dynamite
No mention of how much space is needed to store the different models when not in use. Some folks do not have a dedicated gym space for equipment such as this. Models that fold for storage like the ones from Xebex are much easier to roll out of the way when done with a session.
Make a video of COZWEAT
How about water rowers?
What about the Assault Rower???
Can we get a video of Ironmaster Db vs Pepin Db?
Hey Coop was wondering if you would take a look at the grind racks. I have the chaos 4000 rack and it's great for the cheap price but hard to find rack accessories that's 3x2 for 14 gauge steel.