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@@mdfarhananis8950 because if you really appreciated it you would google what he is talking about since he gave you the basics laid out in an organized way.
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All sites eventually crumble. For all the people seeing the long-term patterns, and justifiably worried about Odysee heading in the same direction 16 years from now? You're probably right. Just don't be afraid of jumping ship into whatever website appears then.
@@29-arnavsamant97 have you tried doing that? It's incredibly hard, almost impossible. I've tried debating people with normal but differing viewpoints, most people generally stick to what they believe. Then you go to the extreme of that with conspiracy theories, it just becomes impossible because you aren't operating with the same information. Anything you give them is propaganda, and anything they give you will look fake. I agree that there should be less banning and cancelling but you need level heads and rationality to change peoples minds and society nowadays is heading away from both.
RUclips also was way more flexible regarding censorship in it’s old days, and then got all pumped up on steroids and started telling what is wrong and what is right. I hope Odysee don’t follow that example in case it get Massive adoption like RUclips did
Communities like us need to support these projects more so they don’t have to rely on any corporate funding or outside investors but I feel you though.
The year they really started going full on China censorship mode is when they started to comply with the US Coppa law for children's protection. That's what I noticed. Before that time none of my comments that I'm aware of were being censored.
If you want it to be successful and become the new norm, then we all need to start using it and directing others to use it as well. There is no APP for it though, so without that, it will never see widespread adoption.
The problem with Odysee currently is it is dominated by right wing Americans, which makes it seem like a political platform. It will need a much wider diversity of views to make headway with the general public. Still, if I were to make a channel I'd probably mirror it there. RUclips is bonkers with the hapless censorship algorithm.
I was both suprised and excited to see some pretty big names on that site when I first checked it out. Channels like Cold Fusion and the AVGN. Would be nice to get some more bigger names there. Certainly would help it feel more "at home". From what I hear it's really easy to sync channels so there's really no reason not to.
Or it be way cooler if smaller people finally had a chance to blow up instead of y’all feeding the same creators over and over. Learned more useful information in this video than from multiple series from all the creators you both mentioned.
@@dxpdigital5343 having more known creators on the site would help smaller ones because it would bring more traffic their way. It's not like people are going to ignore them. I watch random channels all the time on RUclips.
I suspect most 'big names' are still too beholden by corporate sponsorship both legally and financially to take a chance on something as forward thinking as this. Though it may be slow and gradual, Odysee will get there eventually.
@@jasonfanclub4267 there should be not theory, but practice. What about comments by the way and all other metadata? Will it persist too after video removal (theoretically)?
Even if odysee, the front end, removes something, the video will always be accessible on the lrby network using the app. Anyone can make their own front end that is uncensored, or a front end that they may censor anyway they wish.
That's not how blockchain works. And no that's not how RUclips started. Blockchain wasn't even around when RUclips created it's platform. The only way to stop one video, is to stop the whole network. And the only way to stop the whole network, is to literally shut down the internet. And then shut down all computers. Anything short of an EMP blast from our local star that ends technology as a whole, will fail. Even then, someone probably has a backup under a bunker of 3 foot lead walls.
@@HalkerVeil China halted blockchain without halting the internet. If there are no exchanges for people to buy crypto, what is the blockchain that would support an alternative youtube going to be running on?
@@adrianoss.bougas3720 No they didn't. XD You read the news from China and believe it? They're always fighting to find people mining. The little kids mining, sure. They got scared. lol
This sounds like a more centralized version of what IPFS or Zeronet are doing, but specialized for videos instead of files in general. The idea sounds nice because everything that is "not youtube" by now sounds nice. But aside from that I am not yet sure if it is that much better. Great video btw.
I would like to have an jpeg/png alternative of Odysee for illustrators. Or a Pixiv alternative. I'm not into videos too much but manga and illustration is my thing.
@@AvianYuen Only if it were Safe for work. I expect Odysee to shoot a machine gun of bans if japaneses post all kind of contents they post in pixiv. Specially lolis.
To transition to an alternative platform better than RUclips would be so difficult as RUclips have established themselves so well, I mean I've been using them since 2004 when I was like 8 or 9, now 25. I know RUclips is a bit corrupt the way they work but I doubt anyone can compete with them
Hard but not impossible... It should just solve an issue faced by a large group of people which in this case doesn't seem to be. Odyssey might end up becoming a successful side niche but I agree RUclips is here to stay just like fiat currency.
No offence mate, but you sound like you're 52, not 25. Whatever you're using for anything today SHOULD be obsolete in a decade or two. That's how the world works, especially in tech. Get accustomed to it now, or you'll join the dinosaurs.
I just took a look at Odysee. It's a nice idea, and I hope it does well. But they definitely need to work on their user experience and interface. It still feels very....rough to navigate.
6:33 Correction: This is not just for advertising. This part is called the 'Community Fund' - part of it sent to the LBRY Foundation, and the rest went... Somewhere. Anyway, point is, it's not just for advertising.
It's sad, yes, but their ultimate goal was to make money It took them a decade to gain the trust of their viewership, and now they're cashing in their chips Honestly people would kill to have the kind of success RUclips has
A problem I have with Odysee, is that it's too new. There isn't anything that was interesting to me. Usually the content I would like to see isn't on Odysee. But I really like that it treats it's users nicer than RUclips.
The removal of thumbs down has now taken effect on my android app. Thus every single tutorial, from any creator I don't know is trustworthy previously. is now utterly useless. I will have to do research in the comments (difficult with troll comments that will inevitably say "great video") or on a THIRD PARTY PLATFORM... Maybe not for the site on a whole, because often times idc about thumbs up/down I just watch what I like (sadly it's much harder to find NEW stuff now because... The algorithm I guess?), but removal of thumbs down is a massive blow to the site. This comment might get removed, because that's what RUclips does nowadays, let's see...
They can only moderate what's seen on their Odysee website.. which is obvious enough any web owner can do. But they still can't censor what's on the LBRY blockchain. Technically you can write your own web front-end and still stream the video. The Odysee website is only a graphical interface to the LBRY blockchain.
@@zdrux Isn’t that the equivalent of saying “Google can only moderate what’s on RUclips’s servers, but can’t censor what’s on the internet. A content creator can technically write their own front-end and stream their video”? The content creator doesn’t then have as large of an audience pool. Where I’m getting at is it doesn’t necessarily solve the issue of undue censorship. What needs addressing is the accountability of the moderating party.
@@KR-ff4tu Maybe to make things a little clearer....Odysee was created by the same people who created LBRY. In fact, up until very recently, Odysee was under the same company banner as LBRY. LBRY was created by free speech fanatics, and although Odysee DOES have a community guidelines, enforcement is based on what Odysee cares to enforce, and I'm pretty confident they're not going to censor anything unless it actually border on breaking the law.
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer So essentially you would still need to ‘trust’ a human party to not censor content, regardless of what their beliefs are. On a technical level, the platform itself is then similar to RUclips in the sense that there is no technology that prevents the platform operator from censorship.
@@KR-ff4tu Its possible for anyone who knows how to code to create a website that has all the videos in odysee + the content censored by odysee. Content censored by odysee don't vanish from the Internet. They just vanish from odysee. This is because odysee shows content from LBRY and people upload to LBRY. So the content exist on LBRY. Its very likely if odysee gains popularity, someone will come up with an uncensored version of it. The difference between your analogy and what odysee is doing is, when youtube censors videos, they're gone from the internet (unless someone saves it and re-upload it) but when odysee censors it, it's still accessible. Just not directly from odysee.
Interesting video. Thank you for presenting this in such a way that is both entertaining and explained simply enough that even people with a basic understanding of modern things can grasp it.
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Odysee concept is good but the execution is bad, the site is so slow, buggy & not optimize for mobile & no android / apple apps available it's not that hard to do in 2021
I was excited about odysee's anti censorship model until i started to subscribe to my favorite content creators in order to prepare myself to move from RUclips eventually, then I noticed they banned china uncensored channel for "copyright ". So much for being anti censorship, heck even RUclips themselves who demonetize their videos regularly at least have multiple copyright strikes and they still didn't ban them for the obvious false copyright claims from Chinese government channels trying to censor them SMH.
@@TranceCore3it isn't by itself , however companies have been abusing it to censor any negative feedback against them as well as the CCP, it's just another tool they use for censorship.
@@TranceCore3 It is. It's literally saying "no, you can't say that!". I don't really care about "China Uncensored", just another sinophobic propaganda channel, but this pretty much throws half of the point of Odysee into trash, the other half will be thrown once they do the mentioned in the video "partnership programs" so self-censorship among creators also becomes the feature like in YT. At that point, how is it any better than YT?
It can be delisted by whoever runs the shell appliction in question that hooks into LBRY (Odysee etc) Nobody can however remove the content from LBRY itself. This is the beauty of it.
Apart from the backend technology the main difference is the monitization process, which is very interesting indeed. However the big issue is the search. On the other hand as utube changes its search algorithm more and more to direct traffic where it wants to go, that utube benefit will be gone. The analytics is a minor issue from a practical point of view, but from an emotional point of view it’s a big issue. It’s my main grip with Bitchute.
If you do a basic back-of-the-envelope calculation (which is something I actually did), you'll realize that if something like Odysse were to get even just one-FIFTH of RUclips's traffic, the whole thing will crash and burn and collapse. It's simply *NOT feasible* on a scale that's even close to the scale of RUclips. On a small scale, it's OK but won't work on a large scale. Why? Because: 1) The hard drive space that would be required of every user participating in this is astronomical (video files are LARGE). So, every user on that network would HAVE to have a bunch of high-capacity hard drives dedicated to this and running 24/7. So, every user would have to PAY a significant amount for hardware and electricity costs. 2) The personal internet connection of every user hosting the files would slow down to a crawl. Summary: As soon as this network starts getting close to 1-2% of RUclips's traffic and/or overall data storage size, people in the network will stop participating because they'll realize that the few cents they are getting paid don't even come close to justifying the hassle and the problems. Keep in mind: Until very recently RUclips has been operating at a LOSS. That's right, RUclips as a company running this service has actually been losing large amounts of money for YEARS. It exists only because Google has been covering those losses.
I dig Odysee, I have a small 300 sub channel and have pulled in $100 bucks in ads and donations for videos that I would have posted for free. People are cool over there.
What's the point of using a blockchain library to make it, if it is just another centralized app that also moderates content. For a user, isn't this similar to any other centralized video sharing service with lax content moderation policies? Seems like the only real difference is the content moderation policy, which even Odysee can change any time it wants. Even RUclips didn't have such strict policies earlier, but due to pressure from the users and the government, they had to implement those.
Have you guys heard of the THETA ecosystem? The THETA network does all of the above. Not a big fan of the LBRY blockchain, plus they are on SEC's naughty list. Additionally, and this is just my opinion. But I strongly believe that when we are talking about CDN's, a PoS over PoW mechanism will be the best bet going forward. PoW present limitations in scalability that would eventually need to be overcome(cough...cough ETH). The THETA blockchain, unlike the LBRY blockchain, uses PoS - a better alternative in my opinion for revolutionizing CDN's.
so isn't that mean the creator must always online with big bandwith in order for their videos stay online ? and also must have big storage to store all of their videos on their own
Doesn’t feel that decentralized if early adopters get an even bigger jumpstart from the platform just for being there early. Everyone should be equal at the beginning and work their way up like everyone else has to
3speak on Hive is looking to solve these same problems by monetizing IPFS in a cool way that will invite other platforms like odysee to collaborate. You should do a video on Hive blogging or Hive blockchain as a whole. We have no boss and no CEO, so our community represents itself. Hi :-)
I was wondering if the network could simply have private viewing options for videos. Do they have abilities for live streaming, or have optional other multimedia content? I think there is different possibilities to view your own private video collections online without paying exorbitant fees to store. But, I do expect the network to eventually breakdown due to many difficulties most other media companies face over the years, so, I'm not hopeful that it will be successful a decade from now. Since, I expect restrictions and regulations will impede growth, usage, and other control issues.
One main issue I see on both.. is blatant copyright infringement... I want an original content ONLY policy.. All my content will be watermarked... Funny.. People don't like 'fair use' ... of their computers, writing, cars or housing.. That's .. Hacking, Theft, Plagiarism or Burglary....
Really hope short videos get more promotion on Odysee. I find the videos on there I enjoy the most are less than 5 minutes, and RUclips already has a vicegrip on longer content.
Odysee is awesome. Im on there more and more as new channels move over there. Thats how these things happen, the creep up until they totally take over. Odysee does not have the problem that other alternatives have, its not loaded with politics and low quality commentary videos about finance or top 10 robo lists. Its got what you watch here and they don't meddle with it, the videos or your comments.
You mentioned the copyright strikes on YT as being negative, but it appears Odysee has a one strike and you're out policy - so I don't see how that's better?
See it like this: Odysee is just the shell hooked into LBRY. Odysee can delist a song you uploaded for example, but they can never remove it from LBRY itself.
*So odysee pays you in tokens to a crypto wallet?* Not in USD etc to your bank account? I don’t even know where to start when it comes to getting a crypto wallet etc.
Thank you for the explanation! Your videos are very helpful! As for the topic at hand, if I understand correctly, the LBRY network could be used to index very illegal material (like dunno, CP) and sell it for profit to "customers", and nobody would be able to remove that material's metadata from the network. Nice. While at the same time, the Odysee frontend runs their own censorship logic and may (will) bow down to various interests over time as it sees fit. Nice. And the company running the thing (which takes a 10% cut of all new coins?) is based in the US and is being bonked by the SEC. All in all, I'm not impressed.
From what I understand it, Odysee can "remove" content like CP, torture videos, animal cruelty vids, and other stuff from their indexing platform, but that content is still hosted somewhere, like a torrent. All it takes in an avenue to access that dormant video and it can be accessed again. But yeah, the biggest thing going against it is that the company running it is based in the U.S. You can shout free speech no censorship all you want but if some judge is looming over you with a possible 40 million dollar fine or some shady individuals have you strung upside down with a pipe wrench in their hand, its gonna be a bit harder to stand by that
I will have to say, if anyone wants to do machinima-based content, like SFM to Gmod animation videos, that would be a good place to do it. Though I do wish the tagging system would offer the bare minimum of using thirty tags in uploading their videos.
so, Odesee, a centralised entity runs on a decentralised database if I'm right? This means the content on the platform gets decided by the people running the service. it's seems to be about trust and what media company do we choose to trust. because I think running a full decentralised video service without a centralised entity is not going to work.
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A big problem that i already see from personal use standpoint is this : Users on VPN or shared connections will continue to see this message and are not eligible for Rewards :/ :/
If I know humans ... This will. Literally turn into a porn / everything wrong with the world hub. Hate to say it but I've been around the internet since AOL was sending out 3.5 disks lol
No, but it will just be heavily utilized by that industry. If the “actors” are smart they will be early adopters of this tech so they don’t have to depend so much on these companies (like pangpros) that use them, abuse them and spit them out.
When I upload many gigabytes of video to Odysee / LBRY and make it available for free: Who is paying for the hosting / disk space? With RUclips Google is paying for it and earns it back with ads.
Don't fall for anyone impersonating me in the comments below. Also don't fall for a chain of people talking about their 'mentor'. Both are scams and they're trying to take your money. Thanks for watching!
i really find your videos useful
why dont u make some longer videos to explain the concepts in detail
Thank you for taking about shit scam comments that is filled in RUclips
@@mdfarhananis8950 because if you really appreciated it you would google what he is talking about since he gave you the basics laid out in an organized way.
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All sites eventually crumble. For all the people seeing the long-term patterns, and justifiably worried about Odysee heading in the same direction 16 years from now? You're probably right. Just don't be afraid of jumping ship into whatever website appears then.
Right now it's a breeding ground for extremists and it's legit funny and depressing at the same time.
@@jojothejanitor2134 it's getting better. A few decent sized vanilla RUclipsrs are uploading there too, which is nice.
@@HammerLeeAcc I saw EmpLemon there and that made me happy to see.
@@szymex8341 But the good thing about that is that you can try to talk and de radicalise those poeple. You can't do that on RUclips
@@29-arnavsamant97 have you tried doing that? It's incredibly hard, almost impossible. I've tried debating people with normal but differing viewpoints, most people generally stick to what they believe. Then you go to the extreme of that with conspiracy theories, it just becomes impossible because you aren't operating with the same information. Anything you give them is propaganda, and anything they give you will look fake. I agree that there should be less banning and cancelling but you need level heads and rationality to change peoples minds and society nowadays is heading away from both.
RUclips also was way more flexible regarding censorship in it’s old days, and then got all pumped up on steroids and started telling what is wrong and what is right. I hope Odysee don’t follow that example in case it get Massive adoption like RUclips did
Communities like us need to support these projects more so they don’t have to rely on any corporate funding or outside investors but I feel you though.
Used to promise to never have advertisements also. It’s been getting progressively worse since google bought it.
The year they really started going full on China censorship mode is when they started to comply with the US Coppa law for children's protection. That's what I noticed. Before that time none of my comments that I'm aware of were being censored.
If you want it to be successful and become the new norm, then we all need to start using it and directing others to use it as well. There is no APP for it though, so without that, it will never see widespread adoption.
The problem with Odysee currently is it is dominated by right wing Americans, which makes it seem like a political platform. It will need a much wider diversity of views to make headway with the general public. Still, if I were to make a channel I'd probably mirror it there. RUclips is bonkers with the hapless censorship algorithm.
LBRY need to be fully autonomous so SEC cant touch them. this is a weak point with LBRY
I believe LBRY is but not Odysee
You can't tamper with LBRY since its decentralized.
What do you mean by this? How does being fully autonomous stop governments from imposing laws and regulations onto the people running LBRY?
@@pointblank2890 if it’s fully automated then the government can’t take it down. As in, there is no one to contact to talk to
I was both suprised and excited to see some pretty big names on that site when I first checked it out. Channels like Cold Fusion and the AVGN. Would be nice to get some more bigger names there. Certainly would help it feel more "at home". From what I hear it's really easy to sync channels so there's really no reason not to.
Veritasium is there too!
Or it be way cooler if smaller people finally had a chance to blow up instead of y’all feeding the same creators over and over. Learned more useful information in this video than from multiple series from all the creators you both mentioned.
@@dxpdigital5343 having more known creators on the site would help smaller ones because it would bring more traffic their way. It's not like people are going to ignore them. I watch random channels all the time on RUclips.
Thoughty2 is also there
I suspect most 'big names' are still too beholden by corporate sponsorship both legally and financially to take a chance on something as forward thinking as this.
Though it may be slow and gradual, Odysee will get there eventually.
If they have the ability to remove it, it basically is another RUclips. If their guidelines changes tomorrow, what then
The good thing is that Odysee is using the LBRY Blockchain. If Odysee censors there still can happen another platform using the same Blockchain
@@jasonfanclub4267 there should be not theory, but practice. What about comments by the way and all other metadata? Will it persist too after video removal (theoretically)?
It can be delisted from Odysee etc, but you can't forcefully remove it from LBRY since its decentralized. This is very important.
odysee also has an extension that is placing a "watch on odysee" button next to subscribe button on yt videos if they also exist on odysee
whats this extension?
@@leroyjenkins9035 Watch On Odysee, Watch on LBRY
good in paper, but the point is always, who is behind deciding "what incites violence"? that is how youtube started as well
Even if odysee, the front end, removes something, the video will always be accessible on the lrby network using the app. Anyone can make their own front end that is uncensored, or a front end that they may censor anyway they wish.
Thanks for explaining, that is great.
Can you elaborate on your second sentence? Anyone can make their own front end?
That's not how blockchain works.
And no that's not how RUclips started. Blockchain wasn't even around when RUclips created it's platform.
The only way to stop one video, is to stop the whole network. And the only way to stop the whole network, is to literally shut down the internet. And then shut down all computers.
Anything short of an EMP blast from our local star that ends technology as a whole, will fail.
Even then, someone probably has a backup under a bunker of 3 foot lead walls.
@@HalkerVeil China halted blockchain without halting the internet. If there are no exchanges for people to buy crypto, what is the blockchain that would support an alternative youtube going to be running on?
@@adrianoss.bougas3720 No they didn't. XD You read the news from China and believe it? They're always fighting to find people mining.
The little kids mining, sure. They got scared. lol
This is an essential innovation. It will only grow and get better with time. I encourage all creators to try it out and learn more.
This sounds like a more centralized version of what IPFS or Zeronet are doing, but specialized for videos instead of files in general.
The idea sounds nice because everything that is "not youtube" by now sounds nice. But aside from that I am not yet sure if it is that much better.
Great video btw.
I would like to have an jpeg/png alternative of Odysee for illustrators.
Or a Pixiv alternative. I'm not into videos too much but manga and illustration is my thing.
as one of the many artists that cant wait for twitter to die - id love to hear you elaborate on a decentralized gallery site would be!
@@Rev0care I don't have knowledge on code or money to make it. But for me if someone make Booru run over Lbry code that would be good enough for me.
Odysee let's you publish blogs in the same way they do for videos. They're great.
@@AvianYuen Only if it were Safe for work.
I expect Odysee to shoot a machine gun of bans if japaneses post all kind of contents they post in pixiv. Specially lolis.
@@Rev0care Mastodon instances are used as Twitter alternatives, although they range from complete anarchy to censorship worse than Twitter itself.
Gonna start watching your videos over there, now! Thanks for uploading!
To transition to an alternative platform better than RUclips would be so difficult as RUclips have established themselves so well, I mean I've been using them since 2004 when I was like 8 or 9, now 25. I know RUclips is a bit corrupt the way they work but I doubt anyone can compete with them
Thats what they said about television before Netflix and youtube
Hard but not impossible... It should just solve an issue faced by a large group of people which in this case doesn't seem to be. Odyssey might end up becoming a successful side niche but I agree RUclips is here to stay just like fiat currency.
No offence mate, but you sound like you're 52, not 25. Whatever you're using for anything today SHOULD be obsolete in a decade or two. That's how the world works, especially in tech. Get accustomed to it now, or you'll join the dinosaurs.
That was the case with blockbuster and television. Welcome to the free market, what is today, may not exist tomorrow
No one/thing is too big for failure, just take a look at my favorite games company rockstar
Really amazing that you posted your video both on odysee and youtube. After watching your video i really feel that this gona be big in few years.
Huge fan of Odysee, watching here so that this video gets a boost in the algorithm and more people see it
Did they get the ruling yet from govt? Heard they got shut down
@@destined4gr8n3ss2 the site's still up so no
I just took a look at Odysee. It's a nice idea, and I hope it does well. But they definitely need to work on their user experience and interface. It still feels very....rough to navigate.
Try it now, they constantly work with the users and content makers to make it more fluid.
@@GideonFerrante
I cant close odyssey after watching a video
joined today. i have nostalgic flashes from the youtube 2010 era, and that's great
6:33 Correction:
This is not just for advertising. This part is called the 'Community Fund' - part of it sent to the LBRY Foundation, and the rest went... Somewhere.
Anyway, point is, it's not just for advertising.
One of my biggest RUclips biffs is the scam ADs! If there’s videos you want to watch at work but aren’t allowed, then watch them at home!
RUclips used to be amazing. It’s sad what happens once a business gets its customer base.
It used to be more of a service
@@alwaysyouramanda I remember when it was ad free back in the day and didn't rely on ads like it does now.... 2005 RUclips was better.
It's sad, yes, but their ultimate goal was to make money
It took them a decade to gain the trust of their viewership, and now they're cashing in their chips
Honestly people would kill to have the kind of success RUclips has
Great video! The visualisation of the process is perfect. 👍
This video made me create an odysse account. Thank you for letting me know more about it man. I appreciate you
A problem I have with Odysee, is that it's too new. There isn't anything that was interesting to me. Usually the content I would like to see isn't on Odysee. But I really like that it treats it's users nicer than RUclips.
Agreed. If only some more big users could move there.
It is the smallest problem of Odysee for me.
well they have made it possible to sync ur channel, so it's up to people now haha
The removal of thumbs down has now taken effect on my android app. Thus every single tutorial, from any creator I don't know is trustworthy previously. is now utterly useless. I will have to do research in the comments (difficult with troll comments that will inevitably say "great video") or on a THIRD PARTY PLATFORM...
Maybe not for the site on a whole, because often times idc about thumbs up/down I just watch what I like (sadly it's much harder to find NEW stuff now because... The algorithm I guess?), but removal of thumbs down is a massive blow to the site. This comment might get removed, because that's what RUclips does nowadays, let's see...
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If they can ‘moderate’ some specific types of content, what’s to stop them from censorship in the future?
They can only moderate what's seen on their Odysee website.. which is obvious enough any web owner can do. But they still can't censor what's on the LBRY blockchain. Technically you can write your own web front-end and still stream the video.
The Odysee website is only a graphical interface to the LBRY blockchain.
@@zdrux Isn’t that the equivalent of saying “Google can only moderate what’s on RUclips’s servers, but can’t censor what’s on the internet. A content creator can technically write their own front-end and stream their video”?
The content creator doesn’t then have as large of an audience pool.
Where I’m getting at is it doesn’t necessarily solve the issue of undue censorship. What needs addressing is the accountability of the moderating party.
@@KR-ff4tu Maybe to make things a little clearer....Odysee was created by the same people who created LBRY. In fact, up until very recently, Odysee was under the same company banner as LBRY. LBRY was created by free speech fanatics, and although Odysee DOES have a community guidelines, enforcement is based on what Odysee cares to enforce, and I'm pretty confident they're not going to censor anything unless it actually border on breaking the law.
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer So essentially you would still need to ‘trust’ a human party to not censor content, regardless of what their beliefs are. On a technical level, the platform itself is then similar to RUclips in the sense that there is no technology that prevents the platform operator from censorship.
@@KR-ff4tu Its possible for anyone who knows how to code to create a website that has all the videos in odysee + the content censored by odysee. Content censored by odysee don't vanish from the Internet. They just vanish from odysee. This is because odysee shows content from LBRY and people upload to LBRY. So the content exist on LBRY. Its very likely if odysee gains popularity, someone will come up with an uncensored version of it.
The difference between your analogy and what odysee is doing is, when youtube censors videos, they're gone from the internet (unless someone saves it and re-upload it) but when odysee censors it, it's still accessible. Just not directly from odysee.
“inciting violence”. nothing could be more ambiguous than that
If my favourite content creators were on LBRY, I would delete RUclips
The Linux Experiment, DistroTube, Veritasium and even Baby Wogue are already there
Interesting video. Thank you for presenting this in such a way that is both entertaining and explained simply enough that even people with a basic understanding of modern things can grasp it.
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Odysee concept is good but the execution is bad, the site is so slow, buggy & not optimize for mobile & no android / apple apps available it's not that hard to do in 2021
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I was excited about odysee's anti censorship model until i started to subscribe to my favorite content creators in order to prepare myself to move from RUclips eventually, then I noticed they banned china uncensored channel for "copyright ". So much for being anti censorship, heck even RUclips themselves who demonetize their videos regularly at least have multiple copyright strikes and they still didn't ban them for the obvious false copyright claims from Chinese government channels trying to censor them SMH.
Copyright claiming isn't censorship
@@TranceCore3it isn't by itself , however companies have been abusing it to censor any negative feedback against them as well as the CCP, it's just another tool they use for censorship.
If it is already worse, what will be next?
@@TranceCore3 It is. It's literally saying "no, you can't say that!".
I don't really care about "China Uncensored", just another sinophobic propaganda channel, but this pretty much throws half of the point of Odysee into trash, the other half will be thrown once they do the mentioned in the video "partnership programs" so self-censorship among creators also becomes the feature like in YT. At that point, how is it any better than YT?
@@A_B_1917 if it blows up it will indirectly make YT better. If they don't merge or something, that is.
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short and concise! Really well done! I'm hoping to start posting videos on Odysee soon and give the platform a try.
Excellent description!
If some content has to be removed on this platform, who makes that call and on what basis ?
anon does
@@AI-Consultant 😂
@@AI-Consultant that one statement somehow answered both questions 🙋
Yeah if it gets big enough it becomes like RUclips
It can be delisted by whoever runs the shell appliction in question that hooks into LBRY (Odysee etc) Nobody can however remove the content from LBRY itself. This is the beauty of it.
I've also noticed that I get rewarded with tokens for watching certain videos.
It's the first video of the day, so every 24hrs you can claim the watch reward
I’ve seen many RUclips alternatives. This looks promising.
This content is gold. Thanks for the videos! We want to know more about Theta please!
Nice video, thanks for your work!
I really love LBRY and Odysee!
Everything gets ruined when they get big, if odysee gets big, copyright owners take notice, lawmakers learn, it will be enforced
Apart from the backend technology the main difference is the monitization process, which is very interesting indeed. However the big issue is the search. On the other hand as utube changes its search algorithm more and more to direct traffic where it wants to go, that utube benefit will be gone. The analytics is a minor issue from a practical point of view, but from an emotional point of view it’s a big issue. It’s my main grip with Bitchute.
If you do a basic back-of-the-envelope calculation (which is something I actually did), you'll realize that if something like Odysse were to get even just one-FIFTH of RUclips's traffic, the whole thing will crash and burn and collapse. It's simply *NOT feasible* on a scale that's even close to the scale of RUclips. On a small scale, it's OK but won't work on a large scale. Why?
Because:
1) The hard drive space that would be required of every user participating in this is astronomical (video files are LARGE). So, every user on that network would HAVE to have a bunch of high-capacity hard drives dedicated to this and running 24/7. So, every user would have to PAY a significant amount for hardware and electricity costs.
2) The personal internet connection of every user hosting the files would slow down to a crawl.
Summary: As soon as this network starts getting close to 1-2% of RUclips's traffic and/or overall data storage size, people in the network will stop participating because they'll realize that the few cents they are getting paid don't even come close to justifying the hassle and the problems.
Keep in mind: Until very recently RUclips has been operating at a LOSS. That's right, RUclips as a company running this service has actually been losing large amounts of money for YEARS. It exists only because Google has been covering those losses.
With loss and they are taking a big chunk of all profits. It's a sad business.
Finally, a business and technical outlook that acts as a reality check, thank you
I dig Odysee, I have a small 300 sub channel and have pulled in $100 bucks in ads and donations for videos that I would have posted for free. People are cool over there.
After all that, the Odysee admins can still censor? If that's true then just use RUclips.
RUclips is just so clean and rich history idk if it would feel the same.
I am just amazed at the quality and how easily you explain everything in all your videos. Great content !
If the government can do something about it, then it's a security.
What's the point of using a blockchain library to make it, if it is just another centralized app that also moderates content. For a user, isn't this similar to any other centralized video sharing service with lax content moderation policies?
Seems like the only real difference is the content moderation policy, which even Odysee can change any time it wants. Even RUclips didn't have such strict policies earlier, but due to pressure from the users and the government, they had to implement those.
the only problem I faced with Odysee is the awful Bitrate of videos
Very informative! Great video!
Have you guys heard of the THETA ecosystem? The THETA network does all of the above. Not a big fan of the LBRY blockchain, plus they are on SEC's naughty list. Additionally, and this is just my opinion. But I strongly believe that when we are talking about CDN's, a PoS over PoW mechanism will be the best bet going forward. PoW present limitations in scalability that would eventually need to be overcome(cough...cough ETH). The THETA blockchain, unlike the LBRY blockchain, uses PoS - a better alternative in my opinion for revolutionizing CDN's.
I have tried to install Theta Edge Node.
It does nothing, it eats resources and it is closed source.
Found this video on Odysee, came here to watch, like, and comment to help more people see it.
so isn't that mean the creator must always online with big bandwith in order for their videos stay online ? and also must have big storage to store all of their videos on their own
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Which software do you use to create your whiteboard explainer animation videos?
Do you recommend it?
Truth is RUclips will stay in top, other sites tried to do something similar to this and they all failed
it will be complementary. RUclips (Google) censors very heavily
@@r3dp1ll Well there's Dailymotion but at least they have their dislike button.
@@Jose0421 there are many other now. Rumble, Crowdbunker, Bitchute ...If RUclips censors too much, people will go somewhere else
Doesn’t feel that decentralized if early adopters get an even bigger jumpstart from the platform just for being there early. Everyone should be equal at the beginning and work their way up like everyone else has to
The entire crypto world rewards early adopters
@@longhornmed not in the way of getting special perks tho
3speak on Hive is looking to solve these same problems by monetizing IPFS in a cool way that will invite other platforms like odysee to collaborate. You should do a video on Hive blogging or Hive blockchain as a whole. We have no boss and no CEO, so our community represents itself. Hi :-)
I was wondering if the network could simply have private viewing options for videos. Do they have abilities for live streaming, or have optional other multimedia content? I think there is different possibilities to view your own private video collections online without paying exorbitant fees to store. But, I do expect the network to eventually breakdown due to many difficulties most other media companies face over the years, so, I'm not hopeful that it will be successful a decade from now. Since, I expect restrictions and regulations will impede growth, usage, and other control issues.
Live streaming is possible
youtube had to censored because they wanted to be friendly with the advertisers
Its just censoring porn and illegal stuff, lol what do u want.
@@Deadlines-X umm about that..
One main issue I see on both.. is blatant copyright infringement...
I want an original content ONLY policy..
All my content will be watermarked...
Funny..
People don't like
'fair use'
... of their computers, writing, cars or housing..
That's .. Hacking, Theft, Plagiarism or Burglary....
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@@mySeaPrince_ Yup.
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I enjoyed this video!! I will be uploading on here very soon!!!!
Thank you!
Really hope short videos get more promotion on Odysee. I find the videos on there I enjoy the most are less than 5 minutes, and RUclips already has a vicegrip on longer content.
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It was interesting to watch.
Thanks!
I like this video! They actually explained it how the other platform works!
That 4:06 UNLESS ruins everything :)))
this new odysee platform seems great! however te platform has quite a lot of unnecessary complications that i dislike honestly.
Well its going to take a bit of time to get used to am afraid can't always have everything.
Decentralised is the way of the future.
Hey look I'm now following you on Odysee!
So far I haven't seen anything that addresses who retains copyrights to works that are uploaded to either Odysee or LBRY.
Yes i can complaim about the possibility of moderation, if it can moderate it can censor, still not there.
Odysee is awesome. Im on there more and more as new channels move over there. Thats how these things happen, the creep up until they totally take over. Odysee does not have the problem that other alternatives have, its not loaded with politics and low quality commentary videos about finance or top 10 robo lists. Its got what you watch here and they don't meddle with it, the videos or your comments.
Dunno, I've found the worst extremists in the comment sections over there.
@@firefly618 ikr
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You mentioned the copyright strikes on YT as being negative, but it appears Odysee has a one strike and you're out policy - so I don't see how that's better?
See it like this: Odysee is just the shell hooked into LBRY. Odysee can delist a song you uploaded for example, but they can never remove it from LBRY itself.
A great explanation. Thank you.
Is Odyssey any different from Dtube or Theta which are basically the same thing ?
*So odysee pays you in tokens to a crypto wallet?* Not in USD etc to your bank account? I don’t even know where to start when it comes to getting a crypto wallet etc.
Thank you for the explanation! Your videos are very helpful!
As for the topic at hand, if I understand correctly, the LBRY network could be used to index very illegal material (like dunno, CP) and sell it for profit to "customers", and nobody would be able to remove that material's metadata from the network. Nice. While at the same time, the Odysee frontend runs their own censorship logic and may (will) bow down to various interests over time as it sees fit. Nice. And the company running the thing (which takes a 10% cut of all new coins?) is based in the US and is being bonked by the SEC. All in all, I'm not impressed.
From what I understand it, Odysee can "remove" content like CP, torture videos, animal cruelty vids, and other stuff from their indexing platform, but that content is still hosted somewhere, like a torrent. All it takes in an avenue to access that dormant video and it can be accessed again.
But yeah, the biggest thing going against it is that the company running it is based in the U.S. You can shout free speech no censorship all you want but if some judge is looming over you with a possible 40 million dollar fine or some shady individuals have you strung upside down with a pipe wrench in their hand, its gonna be a bit harder to stand by that
I will have to say, if anyone wants to do machinima-based content, like SFM to Gmod animation videos, that would be a good place to do it. Though I do wish the tagging system would offer the bare minimum of using thirty tags in uploading their videos.
so, Odesee, a centralised entity runs on a decentralised database if I'm right? This means the content on the platform gets decided by the people running the service.
it's seems to be about trust and what media company do we choose to trust.
because I think running a full decentralised video service without a centralised entity is not going to work.
I just recently learned that CNN was one of the highest paid channels on RUclips. That probably tells us all that we need to know about RUclips.
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A big problem that i already see from personal use standpoint is this : Users on VPN or shared connections will continue to see this message and are not eligible for Rewards :/ :/
Wow! I kinda understood this.
If I know humans ... This will. Literally turn into a porn / everything wrong with the world hub. Hate to say it but I've been around the internet since AOL was sending out 3.5 disks lol
No, but it will just be heavily utilized by that industry. If the “actors” are smart they will be early adopters of this tech so they don’t have to depend so much on these companies (like pangpros) that use them, abuse them and spit them out.
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First video I click on Odysee happens to be a Whiteboard Crypto video lol
Thanks for such a discovery!! I just opened Odysee and already loving it 😍
they got good music ?
When I upload many gigabytes of video to Odysee / LBRY and make it available for free: Who is paying for the hosting / disk space?
With RUclips Google is paying for it and earns it back with ads.
If the app didn’t suck so bad I would love to use it more, as it is currently it crashes every couple seconds.
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