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Thanks for the 25mm lens test. I have the lumix version, the barrel distortion is about 1.2%(dxo), the Olympus f1.8 lens barrel distortion is about 0.5%. Olympus really did work hard on this lens, it is quite noticeable in raw files.
Great video Rob. another thing people don't speak about regarding this Panasonic 25mm f1.7 is that it focus shifts heavily form F:2 to F:4 which is the sweet spot of these kind of lenses, and it also have a very noticeable focus breathing if you use it for videos, even on Panasonic bodies. Another issue that affects Panasonic lenses (most of them) is that their chromatic aberration control is terrible, and this because Panasonic corrects that issue in camera via software, but Olympus does not. I know that CA can be managed in post processing and get rid of, but when you have to software correct something shifting pixels, you are also loosing definition and sharpness which you then try to gain back via sharpening in software, which introduces even more artefacts. I owned the 15mm PanaLeica and is a cute sharp lens, but it had plenty of CA on my EM-5 MkII, so I changed it for a 17mm Olympus, which still is not a stellar performer in the CA field, but is more manageable. Olympus 25mm is quite sharp, may be a tiny hair less then the Panaleica 25mm and the Pana 25mm 1.7, but it's evenly sharp across the whole image field, it has no hidden ugly sides and, overall, is a very well balanced lens
Thanks for sharing that info. I think the Olympus 25mm is excellent. I never use the panasonic 25mm since switching. Too bad about the 15mm, I really like that focal length. If I ever get a panasonic camera, I will definitely get that lens.
@@lfcmarkeb7124 I think looking at a recent video in 2021 that Olympus might have improved it's compatibility with the 15mm as I didn't see as much CA as I remember in 2015 when I had that lens. the problem is that new lens take a long time to be adapted in firmware on the cameras of the other company, being in Panasonic or Olympus. You need a really well built lens, like the Sigma 30mm 1.4 to be right form the beginning because controlling CA or distortion require complex design in the lens, so for budget product company prefer to fix any issue in software and other brands won't get the same attention as the lens in house.
Great video. Right from the beginning I knew how slow my Panasonic worked by just watching the Olympus work. A few months ago, I did one video with the Panasonic and auto focus was painful. It was either hit the auto focus and pulsing shows up or manually focus, which I found isn't that great with focus by wire but it worked. I can't remember video i watched but it was a Panasonic ambassador. He said the same about Olympus lenses on Panasonic. Depth from Defocus will sometimes not work and it will only funtion basic contrast detection.
Panasonic focuses slowly, but it feels smoother too. Nice review. I just bought the Panasonic 25/1.7 today as I saw nice deal. For stills and low light to complement Oly 45/1.8.
Many thanks Rob, very helpful video.I have the Panasonic lens on order for still photography use, so am now relieved - the price difference in Uk was just to big to ignore.
Thanks. The price difference is usually why many of us Olympus buyers get that instead. Some are very critical of that lens on Olympus, but I don't use it professionally so never pixel peeped it for problems. It's a great lens.
I have a Panasonic 14-42mm (stabilised) kit lens and the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 ( not stabilised) which I use on an Olympus body and have no issues with either stabilisation or focus of either lens, but then I don't use CAF or video. Main reasons are all my screw on filters including my PL fit the 46mm diameter lenses also I prefer the operation of Olympus cameras in comparison to my Panasonic. I also own the Olympic 45mm f1.8 and the Olympus 40-150mm f4-f5.6 lenses, the later of which I purchased with an Olympus EPL6 body and Kit Kens as an ex demonstration stock clearance from a local store for £145 ($185 ) at today's rate.
Another great video, thanks Rob! I have both Oly and Panasonic bodies and lenses. In my experience, the Olympus lenses work better on Panasonic bodies (sans dual IS and DFD that is), than vice versa. Even without these however, I still use Olympus 25/1.8 with Panasonic bodies. It is a great little lens that only PanaLeica 25/1.4 could replace.
If you want something great for both vlogging and photography, the G80/85 is great, and at a very reasonable price right now. As much as I love Olympus cameras (loong relationship), I have to admit that the G80 is an EM-5 II killer. And the G9 is a beast of a camera.
This was really helpful. I've just bought my first real camera, a used Olympus PEN. I ordered the 14mm & 25mm Panasonic lenses and the basic Olympus kit & 40-150mm zoom lens. I don't shoot video fortunately, so the focus on the Panasonic prime lenses should not an issue for myself at least, and they were relatively affordable.
Congrats on your PenF! It's a great camera and even though I have several other newer cameras, it's still my "go to" camera for my personal photowalks.
Thank you Rob, This video went very helpful.. I am planning to buy a Olympus camera .. and was going through both Olympus & Pansonic lenses, thinking both will be similar .. Really it was an eye opener. thank you so much .
Great video to see, in general & for me specifically because I’m looking at a 25mm now & this zeros in my decision- showing the differences graphically like this is fantastic. And, I’m also looking at a used but mint TG5 too lol! I want & need it, as a tough camera & it’s an Olympus! Although some time has passed since this was posted it’s a nice fluke to come across it now. I’ve seen your vids on the TG5. That makes it good to go for me. Excellent feature set on these little beasts & I like the look of it. As usual, a great help, info & fyi content Rob. Also, this vid was so funny lol... bring Elly more often (do I have the dog’s name right?)
if you didnt move the camera. the differences in color are huge. i find the panasonic more on the sharp side. also noticed that the olympus is a bit wider and lets more light in. the bokeh is more consistent as well throughout the image. so baseline, the difference in price is not for nothing.
Rob EM10 use CDAF as all Panasonic so then when you compare lens with DFD technology which is created specially for lumix AF - results are like this. But i think difference will be less visible if you test an Olympus PDAF cameras like EM1 MK2.
As you say, DFD is unique to Panasonic, so not sure PDAF would make any difference with respect to DFD tech. I've noticed my Panasonic 25mm does perform better on my em1-mkii.
This test review is right on Rob....while I do not own the Oly 25mm I do have the Pan 25...I don't do video, and sometimes it even is slow to focus on my EM 10 Mll for stills. Thx Rob
Fair assessment, Panasonic seems to be more hesitant to change focus. For me personally it's not important as I haven't used AFC in video (or stills FTM) like ever. So I'll just carry on mixing and matching Olympus with Panasonic as needed... :-)
Excellent video, for those who can't decide, which lens to buy, but have decided to buy a 25mm for MFT. I think that the Panasonic was unacceptably slow on the Olympus body, especially for vlogging and for subject tracking. I have also noticed some issues with the chromatic aberrations, which my em-10 gives with the Panasonic lens, which it never gives with any of the Olympus Ienses and its not easy to correct in post either. However...the slooow "acquisition" of face focus by the Panasonic looks kinda cool. Feels like someone is manually focusing it...lol. Very interesting video. Thanks a lot.
Thanks. It's too slow for vlogging. For cinematic shots, maybe but I think slow focus should be more intentional or consistant. This lens sometimes locks right in and most times is very slow.
I have a Panasonic G7 and an Olympus PEN E-PL7 and the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 and 45mm f/1.8 lenses which I used several for photographing dogs at or after dusk at the L.L.Bean Discovery Park in Freeport, Maine in December. Every year they have hundreds of Christmas trees lit up which make for some really cool bokeh. Since my G7 lacks IBIS, I mounted my Panasonic 25mm on my G7 and my Olympus 45mm on my PEN E and I got a lot more photos in focus with the Olympus system than the Panasonic. Obviously, this is a pretty challenging test for any camera since dogs don't usually hold still for long, but the Olympus camera and lens would almost always get at least one shot in focus after taking a few while the Panasonic camera and lens would miss focus so much that I eventually just gave up using it and stuck to the Olympus, even though I preferred the 25mm focal length for that type of application. As much as I love that little Olympus 25mm for shooting subjects that aren't moving too fast in good light, it leaves a lot to be desired for low light photography, even on a Panasonic body.
My Panasonic 25mm F1.7 works great on my Olympus E-PL6. I like the lens but I did not pixel peep the results since my usage scenario for this combo (street photography) is not critical.
Hello Rob. Such a good and fair review. Thanks for this! I already liked and subscribed 😊 I have a question. How far is you and the camera? Sorry for English. Is terrible I know. But I hope you understand 🙏
There are issues with the Panasonic 100-400 lens and some Olympus bodies. I rented both the f4 400 Olympus and the 100-400 Panasonic for shooting eagles. The Panasonic on my om1 Mkl was a very tight fit and left fine scratches that I had to sent to Olympus for service. It seems it’s not a unknown thing based on some research on the internet. It has happened to others.
I bought an Olympus 25mm f/1.8 for my Panasonic G7 a few years back. and now I have problems as well. AF is great all around, and is faster than any of my Lumix lenses, but when it comes to shooting video with AF, here is what happens. my G7 starts to make this loud noise when tracking me. and it records this noise on all the videos where you clearly hear it. at first, I thought my G7 broke and I need to call support. but after doing tests, I noticed that this ONLY happens with this Olympus lens and while I am recording on any video quality BELOW 4k. After this, i realized it's best to buy lenses of the same brand. or you'll always run into weird probs the seller at the store will never tell you about..
Great comparison, still trying to decide between these two and the Sigma 30mm f1.4... I do stills on OMD EM1 mark 1 and Pen F but you never know when one might venture into video.
Don't forget the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 pancake. I foound the 30mm a bit bulky. Definitely stay Olympus for video. Wait for a killer deal on the Oly 25. I've seen them $250. I bought mine used for $200.
@@RobTrek yes, great for photos, nice and sharp, but I’m kicking my self now, realising that the 12mm Olympus is less than £100 more on eBay. And a bit disappointing that in the updated 14mm I got, where it promised quieter focusing in video...is still loud.
you brought up some good points. i have the panasonic 25mm f1.7 with my panasonic g85 and i just picked up a used olympus e-m5 II. I might have to consider picking up the equivalent olympus 25mm. if i feel like upgrading in the future, i could consider the leica 25mm f1.4 or the olympus 25mm f1.2 pro lens.
Olympus f 1.8 25mm $299 new, Just got the Panasonic 25mm f 1.7 for $130 new. Only reason to pay double is the better AF in video in Olympus for video only.
Thanks for the great information, Rob. I really get a lot out of these videos. When you review the TG-5 can you comment on whether an upgrade from the TG-4 would be recommended? I have a TG-4 and I really like it.
I got the panasonic version for stills I find it ok not in to videos but I have heard great things about the Olympus versions maybe I try it out in my local store
Bring your lens with you to compare. Try them at different apertures. Some say the Panasonic is even worse above f/2.8. I was using f/1.7 in this video.
I think some of the Panasonic focus problems have been improved by recent firmware upgrades from Olympus specifically for these lenses Love your work Rob
Thanks for the great review. This question is for you are anyone in the Olympus community. I have the first generation Olympus 14-150 that is, not weather seal. With the new one will I gain sharpness along with the weather sealing.
I'm not having issues with the AF, but many have said at f4 there is some missed focusing. The chromatic aberration is not bad and easily fixed in post processing.
This was on an Olympus camera. I wonder if the focus speed would be similar on a Panasonic body, or if the Panasonic or Olympus lens would be faster at video focus on the Panasonic body?
@@RobTrek Looking further into this, other people seem to be in agreement that the Olympus lens does focus faster on Panasonic bodies as well as on Olympus bodies. The same appears to be true as well, of the Olympus 17mm f1.8 vs Panasonic 20mm f1.7. Olympus appears to use a better in-lens focusing system, at least for these lenses. However, there also seems to be general agreement, that out of these 4 lenses, it is the 20/1.7 that is sharpest, but also slowest and noisiest when it comes to AF on both Olympus and Panasonic bodies.
Thank U Sir..this is what I need... But I have a question..what do you think I If use lumix G95 that most reviewers say have a autofocus issue and mix with Olympus 25mm 1.7...is that gonna solve the autofoucus much.much better..?? Thank U for your respon..cause I'm.thingking about get a Lumix G95 body..and not sure about the autofocus
I dont know if its just me but when the Panasonic lens focuses it actually looks a lot better in video quality. Also maybe you could do a comparison between the 12-50 olympus and the 12-40 pro
@@RobTrek hey Rob, do you know how the here slow Panasonic works on a Panasonic Lumix camera? Do you think that's a better connection? I am currently thinking of selling my Olympus lenses I currently use with a G70. A 17.5mm and 42. 5mm. Aim to get a 25 and 20. Later a 15/14 and 42.5
Hi Rob do some of your lens work better, when not on there native bodies than others or is the performance consistently slow across focal lengths and apertures ?. And do you think that question is two video question, stills and video? As reviews now do seem to be polorising into the separate camps of videos and still with their respective flaws to needs being examined. Thanks again for the helpful and entertaining videos the inclusion of music is a nice touch also, great stuff.
I really don't have enough variety of lenses for my Olympus cameras to answer that. My 25mm and 7-14mm are Panasonic, the rest are Olympus. The 7-14mm fine for stills, and I've never used it for video. Thanks.
Appreciate the video…disappointing results! Was considering a OM camera; most folks say no issues if using my Pan lenses even in video (other than the IBIS), but this doesn’t support that.
Hi, I’m considering buying a used Pen F with the Pano 25mm thrown in. A bit over 8400 exposure count for 779. Silver top too. A new, all black, open-box from New Jersey (Adorama likely) for $820. I’m thinking with the 25 mm I should go for it. Any thoughts?
It is a very practical comparison with the 2 lenses which I really needed get my head around. I am currently using an olympus EPL9 and using 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 lens and looking to expand the lenses collection. I am going to Iceland and likely take a lot of scenic photos, especially Northern lights, fingers crossed. I am debating whether to get the Panasonic or Olympus 25mm F1.7/1.8 (for better aperture for the northern lights/?weather proof) or another longer focal length lenses (for variety/purpose) as I have read a post that say my original lens may be sufficient for the Northern lights? Would you be able to give me some advice, please? Thank you for your help.
I've never photographed northern lights so can't advise. However, consider the 17mm f/1.8 over the 25mm. I find it more useful long term. Others prefer the 25mm over the 17mm, so you'll have to decide.
@@RobTrek Thank you for your recommendation. I am currently having a 2nd search with your advice. It is a bit pricey but at a reasonable range, luckily I still have time to think about whether this purchase is necessary! As I am going to whale watching as well, thats why I was think about a longer focal length, may change my mind and get a completely different lens. Much appreciated with your reply!
I find that with single point auto-focus the Pana lens in normal room light takes a very long time to focus and sometimes doesn't get it at all. I've been considering going to the Oly just because of that but I've also heard that because the Oly and Pana cameras have different internal cutoff filters that you can get a blue/purple fringe using the Pana on and Oly body unless you also use an external filter. Anyone know if that is true?
The cameras and/or lens have software in them to correct fringing to a degree. Sometimes Pana doesn't have the data to fix Oly lenses and visa-versa. Firmware updates sometimes fix this, but it's hard to cover every combination. Best solution is to fix in post processing, though not always perfect. Look for lenses and/or cameras that have updated firmware. If the camera has not been updated after a lens has been release, then the chances of problems when mixing brands goes up. As for physical filters, that is way beyond my knowledge base to answer. Hopefully a more competent person can chime in. Maybe check in at the mu43 forums.
Hi, i would like to take an olympus lens to use with a panasonic g85. I already have a 75mm 1.8 olympus lens which is good for photos but for videos it makes a noise when I change the aperture. Does this lens have the same problem? I use S mode set to 100 when I shoot so I don't have to manually change the aperture and ISOs.
@@RobTrek Hi, thank you for answer. I would like to buy an Olympus 17mm or 25mm 1.8 aperture so I can filming with low light. I have a 20 mm Panasonic but it isn't so good for video (too slow and noise).
Hi Rob, just discovered your channel and immediately subscribed! I'd like to ask couple questions if I May. I mainly shoot video. Just got OMD.M1 Mark III with 12-100 F4 Pro lens. I noticed there is audible sound from the AF mechanism and it transfers to the footage especially if I film a quiet scene. You can hear in the footage.. I am wondering if the 25mm f1.7 would do the same. Also, I love the skin tone and picture quality of your video.. Would you mind sharing the setting you have? What Olympus camera you shoot on anyway ? Thanks a bunch!!!
Thanks. My ears are not quite as sensitive as they used to be so I can't reliably say if the 25mm would be any better. For video, you want to use an external mic. There are many choices but I would recommend starting with a small boom mic. I use a amzn.to/3ijiiKh As for color, I use auto-WB and Natural Color mode most of the time when outside.
So would you propose the panasonic 25 mm for Olympus em10 mark iii? I would like your advice because i am inexperienced user! I am interested in photography and i want a low light lens... I own 14-42 iir, i want to get the Olympus 40-150mm f4 and i don't know what a prime low light lens to get...It would be used for photography but Continuous Auto Focus would be needed (for scenes such as a running person). Thank you in advance!
You should be fine with the Panasonic, but I've not used it for running people. You might want to check out the mu-43 forum for advice on that. www.mu-43.com/forums/olympus-cameras.42/
Here's an idea: stop depending on technology and DO IT YOURSELF. Auto focus will never replace manual focus for determining the focus intent of the photographer.
Good morning Rob, I love your tutorials, they have been very helpful. I have just purchased an Olympus OM-DE-M1 mark ii and would like to know what you would lens 's you would recommend I start with. I love shooting macro, wildlife all kinds. Occasionally photograph people and scenery and like creative photography. I never use video. I am changing over from a bridge camera and it's a whole new experience. Your advice would be much appreciated. Kind Regards, Linda
Congrats on the e-m1! It really depends on your budget. The cheapest way for macro is the 40-150mm f/4-5.6 with macro extension tubes. I have a video on that setup. The best macro lens is the Olympus 60mm macro - also makes a great portrait lens. For wildlife, the 75-300mm is a great budget choice, but best by far is the 300mm f/4 with teleconverter. Hope that helps.
halo.. you prefer olympus 25mm f1.8 OR panaleica 25mm f1.4 for the best emage quality for the olympus Pen F? I plan to buy one of them for model and product prhotoshoot.
Maybe that's the reason it's half the price of the Olympus lens. Also remember Olympus classifies this lens as one of their Premium lens, don't think Panasonic does the same. I wonder how the DG Summilux 25mm f/1.4 lens would compare to the Olympus lens?
I've recently had an encounter with strong purple fringing/flares when I was trying out old Canon glass on my EM10 in some night shots. Street lights, and the purple was impossible to ignore, unfortunately it was also impossible to get rid of in post (Rawtherapee for me). What's your experience with the purple from the Pana 1.7 wide open? Specifically with nightshots? (I'd expect the software to have an easier time with the usual fringes on trees in daylight)
@@RobTrek Thank you Rob! Been reading through some threads - experiences are inconclusive. Some don't mind the CA too much, others sent their lenses back... (One even complained about bad aberrations in ooc jpgs with the lens on a Pana body.) I' m currently leaning towards the manual and ultra-cheap Meike 25mm. If I have to deal with purple anyway... Also worth considering: If I need to get a high density 2A UV filter to set my mind at ease, that would add another 30 Euros to the cost of the lens.
@@RobTrek thank you sir, i just bought the 1.8, it really is no point to have a big o lens on such a compact cam, as it was the main reason why i buy omd em10 m3.
Maybe both, but it depends. 12-40 as versatile travel lens which is capable in low light situations for static scenes (dawn, dark rainy day), 25 f1.2 for social events when IS won't save you, because people are moving and also it has quite natural field of view. I'm using all 12-35/f2.8, 12-60mm/f3.5-5.6, 20mm/f1.7 and 45mm/f1.8. First two as travel lens (image quality is pretty good on both, 12-35 suffers from lens flare and has shorter zoom range ... 12-60 was very cheap as G80 kit lens and it's surprisingly flawless). last two for indoor photos with people and 45mm for outdoor photos as well (people, kids, ...). Actually 45mm is my only Olympus lens and I like it a lot.
Am surprised in photography C-AF performs the same in both lenses. However, I've noted Olympus lenses tend to be brighter and a bit desaturated than Panasonic lenses. I wonder why is that?
@@RobTrek Thanks for the advice. One more doubt, is the Olympus E-M10 Mark II good at high iso. Cause I am planning to use it for street photography at night.
I'm considering a 25mm fast lens. Using olympus m1 mark ii. Pana is a tiny bit cheaper, but it is weather sealed. But yes, updating lenses needs the same brand camera to be updated 😬 what would you recommend? I like to go out in all sorts of weather 😅 Photography, not video 😊
I think the Panasonic 25mm f/1.4 II is your best bet if you want weather resistance. I wouldn't worry about updating the lens firmware as there currently aren't any that I'm aware of. Using Panasonic lenses on Olympus generally is fine except for a few minor features like focus stacking in-camera. AF is fine for photography.
😂 the shout out to camera conspiracies killed me... Anyway, very interesting video. Makes me want to test for myself. Have Oly bodies and 2 Panny lenses; the 12-32mm pancake kit zoom for travel and the 42.5mm f1.7 lumix for portrait and semi-macro. I'm not much of a video person.
I have a question. When I have the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 mounted on my em-10 II...it gives kind of a WB flicker while it focuses at autofocus. Obviously that usually takes less than a second but it is noticeable and none of my Olympus lens does this. Is is common for all Panasonic lenses OR is it a thing about lack of understanding between the Olympus body and Panasonic lens OR my lens is broken? Thank you very much for your time and effort.
I never use my Panasonic for video with autofocus, but will give this a try and test on both my panasonic lenses. There is a firmware update ver1.1 for it related to autofocus. Might want to try that.
@@RobTrek Thanks for your reply. I actually meant autofocus for still photography. That causes a WB flicker (or that's what I call it) on my em-10 II body. How do I update? Update the camera or the lens? I think the body. Right?
Hi Rob, been looking at the Pany 12-32 MM len,s. Had great review,s, but was worried how it marrie,s up to my OMD. This nail,s it, work,s fine for still,s, not interested in video, so all good. Around £90, equiv Olympus is pro glass only, circa £500, no brainer. Until I can afford the 12-100 pro len,s, circa £750 the Pany fill,s the gap.
I use the 12-32mm a lot on my E-M5 Mark III. Seems the panasonic lenses work well with the phase detect AF cameras from Olympus for both stills and video. I concur with the great reviews on the 12-32mm. It's sharper than my Oly 14-42mm and nearly as sharp as my Oly 12-40pro. I like the wider 12mm focal length and the compact size.
@@RobTrek This would also apply to street shooting. Could you consider making a similar video for the comparison for street shots and pen-f with another for settings to myset?
Yes, the PenF is definitely a street shooter and has settings that can't be done in any other camera. Will have to give some thought to a location that will show off the differences. Will try to do one for you soon, as good weather and my free time don't often align.
Hi, I was using the latest firmware for the Pana lens in this video. On the EM10-ii, there was one more firmware update after this video, but it didn't address anything for AF. So the results in this video should still be valid.
I recommend Olympus lenses for Olympus cameras. There is additional discussion on CA not being corrected and other differences in focus for stills with Panasonic lenses used on Olympus cameras. I think the Panasonic footage was darker possibly due to a slight change in ambient light and/or being in autoiso mode and the camera decided to drop down 1/3 of a stop.
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Most useful review, a million thanks Rob !
Thanks. Glad this video helped.
Thanks for the 25mm lens test. I have the lumix version, the barrel distortion is about 1.2%(dxo), the Olympus f1.8 lens barrel distortion is about 0.5%. Olympus really did work hard on this lens, it is quite noticeable in raw files.
Thank you!
Great video Rob. another thing people don't speak about regarding this Panasonic 25mm f1.7 is that it focus shifts heavily form F:2 to F:4 which is the sweet spot of these kind of lenses, and it also have a very noticeable focus breathing if you use it for videos, even on Panasonic bodies.
Another issue that affects Panasonic lenses (most of them) is that their chromatic aberration control is terrible, and this because Panasonic corrects that issue in camera via software, but Olympus does not. I know that CA can be managed in post processing and get rid of, but when you have to software correct something shifting pixels, you are also loosing definition and sharpness which you then try to gain back via sharpening in software, which introduces even more artefacts.
I owned the 15mm PanaLeica and is a cute sharp lens, but it had plenty of CA on my EM-5 MkII, so I changed it for a 17mm Olympus, which still is not a stellar performer in the CA field, but is more manageable. Olympus 25mm is quite sharp, may be a tiny hair less then the Panaleica 25mm and the Pana 25mm 1.7, but it's evenly sharp across the whole image field, it has no hidden ugly sides and, overall, is a very well balanced lens
Thanks for sharing that info. I think the Olympus 25mm is excellent. I never use the panasonic 25mm since switching. Too bad about the 15mm, I really like that focal length. If I ever get a panasonic camera, I will definitely get that lens.
the CA on the 15mm pany would be taken care of on a pany body (software)
@@lfcmarkeb7124 I think looking at a recent video in 2021 that Olympus might have improved it's compatibility with the 15mm as I didn't see as much CA as I remember in 2015 when I had that lens. the problem is that new lens take a long time to be adapted in firmware on the cameras of the other company, being in Panasonic or Olympus. You need a really well built lens, like the Sigma 30mm 1.4 to be right form the beginning because controlling CA or distortion require complex design in the lens, so for budget product company prefer to fix any issue in software and other brands won't get the same attention as the lens in house.
Great video. Right from the beginning I knew how slow my Panasonic worked by just watching the Olympus work. A few months ago, I did one video with the Panasonic and auto focus was painful. It was either hit the auto focus and pulsing shows up or manually focus, which I found isn't that great with focus by wire but it worked.
I can't remember video i watched but it was a Panasonic ambassador. He said the same about Olympus lenses on Panasonic. Depth from Defocus will sometimes not work and it will only funtion basic contrast detection.
Good to know I'm not alone. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Panasonic focuses slowly, but it feels smoother too. Nice review. I just bought the Panasonic 25/1.7 today as I saw nice deal. For stills and low light to complement Oly 45/1.8.
That's it......Olympus lens every time for my OMD. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for watching.
Many thanks Rob, very helpful video.I have the Panasonic lens on order for still photography use, so am now relieved - the price difference in Uk was just to big to ignore.
Thanks. The price difference is usually why many of us Olympus buyers get that instead. Some are very critical of that lens on Olympus, but I don't use it professionally so never pixel peeped it for problems. It's a great lens.
An excellent demonstration of differences between the 2 lenses!! You just helped me made a crucial decision so thank you Rob!!
Glad to help!
Thanks for doing this. You've confirmed the feeling that I've had about these two lenses.
Glad I could help!
Thank you for your advice Rob, much appreciated.
Thanks for watching!
Wow, excellent comparison video. Just what I was looking for, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Great review Rob, really hit the mark. I've got both the 17mm and 25mm Zuiko Lens.
Thanks.
The difference is super clear Mr Rob..i can't thank you enough, very helpful review 😊 🙏🏾.. thank you sir!
Glad it was helpful!
I have a Panasonic 14-42mm (stabilised) kit lens and the Panasonic 25mm f1.7 ( not stabilised) which I use on an Olympus body and have no issues with either stabilisation or focus of either lens, but then I don't use CAF or video. Main reasons are all my screw on filters including my PL fit the 46mm diameter lenses also I prefer the operation of Olympus cameras in comparison to my Panasonic. I also own the Olympic 45mm f1.8 and the Olympus 40-150mm f4-f5.6 lenses, the later of which I purchased with an Olympus EPL6 body and Kit Kens as an ex demonstration stock clearance from a local store for £145 ($185 ) at today's rate.
Panasonic makes great lenses. The differences in performance are minor in photography. Great deal on the epl6! I use an epl8 for vlogging.
Another great video, thanks Rob! I have both Oly and Panasonic bodies and lenses. In my experience, the Olympus lenses work better on Panasonic bodies (sans dual IS and DFD that is), than vice versa. Even without these however, I still use Olympus 25/1.8 with Panasonic bodies. It is a great little lens that only PanaLeica 25/1.4 could replace.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Good to know since I'm considering a Panasonic camera.
If you want something great for both vlogging and photography, the G80/85 is great, and at a very reasonable price right now. As much as I love Olympus cameras (loong relationship), I have to admit that the G80 is an EM-5 II killer.
And the G9 is a beast of a camera.
Thanks, Rob. You helped me make the decision about this lens.
Thanks. Glad this type of review helps.
This was really helpful. I've just bought my first real camera, a used Olympus PEN. I ordered the 14mm & 25mm Panasonic lenses and the basic Olympus kit & 40-150mm zoom lens.
I don't shoot video fortunately, so the focus on the Panasonic prime lenses should not an issue for myself at least, and they were relatively affordable.
Congrats on your PenF! It's a great camera and even though I have several other newer cameras, it's still my "go to" camera for my personal photowalks.
Thank you Rob, This video went very helpful.. I am planning to buy a Olympus camera .. and was going through both Olympus & Pansonic lenses, thinking both will be similar ..
Really it was an eye opener. thank you so much .
Thanks. Yes, and you lose other benefits like Hi-Res shot, focus bracketing/stacking, dual IS, etc...
Excellent comparison ! Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge!
Thanks! Glad to help.
Another great informational video Rob. Thanks so much for your efforts.
Thanks, Don.
Great video to see, in general & for me specifically because I’m looking at a 25mm now & this zeros in my decision- showing the differences graphically like this is fantastic. And, I’m also looking at a used but mint TG5 too lol! I want & need it, as a tough camera & it’s an Olympus! Although some time has passed since this was posted it’s a nice fluke to come across it now. I’ve seen your vids on the TG5. That makes it good to go for me. Excellent feature set on these little beasts & I like the look of it. As usual, a great help, info & fyi content Rob. Also, this vid was so funny lol... bring Elly more often (do I have the dog’s name right?)
Thanks. TG5 is fun little camera. I have a few vlogs I've done with it on my channel. Yes, Ellie is her name. I forgot she was in this video!
if you didnt move the camera. the differences in color are huge. i find the panasonic more on the sharp side. also noticed that the olympus is a bit wider and lets more light in. the bokeh is more consistent as well throughout the image. so baseline, the difference in price is not for nothing.
That's usually the case.
Rob EM10 use CDAF as all Panasonic so then when you compare lens with DFD technology which is created specially for lumix AF - results are like this. But i think difference will be less visible if you test an Olympus PDAF cameras like EM1 MK2.
As you say, DFD is unique to Panasonic, so not sure PDAF would make any difference with respect to DFD tech. I've noticed my Panasonic 25mm does perform better on my em1-mkii.
This test review is right on Rob....while I do not own the Oly 25mm I do have the Pan 25...I don't do video, and sometimes it even is slow to focus on my EM 10 Mll for stills. Thx Rob
I've noticed that on rare occasions. Not enough that I don't want to save $100+. But for video, it's not worth the savings.
Fair assessment, Panasonic seems to be more hesitant to change focus. For me personally it's not important as I haven't used AFC in video (or stills FTM) like ever. So I'll just carry on mixing and matching Olympus with Panasonic as needed... :-)
Mix and match works fine for photography. Just watch for firmware updates on the lenses for compatibility issues.
Excellent video, for those who can't decide, which lens to buy, but have decided to buy a 25mm for MFT. I think that the Panasonic was unacceptably slow on the Olympus body, especially for vlogging and for subject tracking. I have also noticed some issues with the chromatic aberrations, which my em-10 gives with the Panasonic lens, which it never gives with any of the Olympus Ienses and its not easy to correct in post either. However...the slooow "acquisition" of face focus by the Panasonic looks kinda cool. Feels like someone is manually focusing it...lol.
Very interesting video. Thanks a lot.
Thanks. It's too slow for vlogging. For cinematic shots, maybe but I think slow focus should be more intentional or consistant. This lens sometimes locks right in and most times is very slow.
Yes. The pana lens is slower in focussing but the image quality seems better. If u dont take videos , this pana should be a great lens.
Agreed. For photos, either lens will do a great job.
New to your channel and wanted to say that I found this review very useful - excellent video! Thank you!
Welcome and thanks! Catch me in my live streams if you can.
From Thailand, this is helpful review Thanks so much 👍👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
I have a Panasonic G7 and an Olympus PEN E-PL7 and the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 and 45mm f/1.8 lenses which I used several for photographing dogs at or after dusk at the L.L.Bean Discovery Park in Freeport, Maine in December. Every year they have hundreds of Christmas trees lit up which make for some really cool bokeh. Since my G7 lacks IBIS, I mounted my Panasonic 25mm on my G7 and my Olympus 45mm on my PEN E and I got a lot more photos in focus with the Olympus system than the Panasonic. Obviously, this is a pretty challenging test for any camera since dogs don't usually hold still for long, but the Olympus camera and lens would almost always get at least one shot in focus after taking a few while the Panasonic camera and lens would miss focus so much that I eventually just gave up using it and stuck to the Olympus, even though I preferred the 25mm focal length for that type of application. As much as I love that little Olympus 25mm for shooting subjects that aren't moving too fast in good light, it leaves a lot to be desired for low light photography, even on a Panasonic body.
Thanks for sharing. Appreciate you taking the time to write.
Glad to join the conversation! I love your videos! I've been watching them for months and I've found them to be very helpful and informative.
Nice practical comparison! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
My Panasonic 25mm F1.7 works great on my Olympus E-PL6. I like the lens but I did not pixel peep the results since my usage scenario for this combo (street photography) is not critical.
I use the lens all the time on my E-M5 Mark II. Works great!
I got the M.Zuiko 25 mm f 1.8 for my OMD EM 10 Mark III and I love it.
It's a awesome lens.
Hello Rob. Such a good and fair review. Thanks for this! I already liked and subscribed 😊 I have a question. How far is you and the camera? Sorry for English. Is terrible I know. But I hope you understand 🙏
Thanks. I think it was about 3 meters. I really don't remember.
@@RobTrek ok Rob. Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
There are issues with the Panasonic 100-400 lens and some Olympus bodies. I rented both the f4 400 Olympus and the 100-400 Panasonic for shooting eagles. The Panasonic on my om1 Mkl was a very tight fit and left fine scratches that I had to sent to Olympus for service. It seems it’s not a unknown thing based on some research on the internet. It has happened to others.
Thanks for sharing this info. I'm surprised the mount is not an exact fit.
Another great vid Rob
Thanks!
I did it the other way. Lumix g9 and then the Olympus 12mm f2 and the 17mm F1.8. And a kamlan 50mm f1.1.
Nice!
I bought an Olympus 25mm f/1.8 for my Panasonic G7 a few years back. and now I have problems as well. AF is great all around, and is faster than any of my Lumix lenses, but when it comes to shooting video with AF, here is what happens. my G7 starts to make this loud noise when tracking me. and it records this noise on all the videos where you clearly hear it. at first, I thought my G7 broke and I need to call support. but after doing tests, I noticed that this ONLY happens with this Olympus lens and while I am recording on any video quality BELOW 4k.
After this, i realized it's best to buy lenses of the same brand. or you'll always run into weird probs the seller at the store will never tell you about..
I think this is generally true, especially for video. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Great comparison, still trying to decide between these two and the Sigma 30mm f1.4... I do stills on OMD EM1 mark 1 and Pen F but you never know when one might venture into video.
Don't forget the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 pancake. I foound the 30mm a bit bulky. Definitely stay Olympus for video. Wait for a killer deal on the Oly 25. I've seen them $250. I bought mine used for $200.
Hmmm. But I love the Panny 14mm 2.5. And yet some of the focus hunting performance in this video is familiar. Food for thought.
The 14mm is a great pancake lens. Quite a bit wider but definitely worth a look. Thanks.
@@RobTrek yes, great for photos, nice and sharp, but I’m kicking my self now, realising that the 12mm Olympus is less than £100 more on eBay. And a bit disappointing that in the updated 14mm I got, where it promised quieter focusing in video...is still loud.
Very good review, Rob.
Thank you!
you brought up some good points. i have the panasonic 25mm f1.7 with my panasonic g85 and i just picked up a used olympus e-m5 II. I might have to consider picking up the equivalent olympus 25mm. if i feel like upgrading in the future, i could consider the leica 25mm f1.4 or the olympus 25mm f1.2 pro lens.
Thanks. Those are all great lenses you mentioned. There are great reviews from my peers on all of those. Be sure to check them out as well.
25 14 is not a good lens for video. Its AFc is too slow
Olympus f 1.8 25mm $299 new, Just got the Panasonic 25mm f 1.7 for $130 new. Only reason to pay double is the better AF in video in Olympus for video only.
That's pretty much it. Some say the Pana back focuses at f/4, but I haven't noticed it.
Thanks for the great information, Rob. I really get a lot out of these videos. When you review the TG-5 can you comment on whether an upgrade from the TG-4 would be recommended? I have a TG-4 and I really like it.
Thanks. I don't have a TG4, but will look at some reviews/specs and see if I can form an opinion on upgrading.
The Lumix has "focus breathing" issues where the focus changes with different f-stops.
Thanks for the feedback!
Good comparison, thanks!)
Thanks for watching!
I got the panasonic version for stills I find it ok not in to videos but I have heard great things about the Olympus versions maybe I try it out in my local store
Bring your lens with you to compare. Try them at different apertures. Some say the Panasonic is even worse above f/2.8. I was using f/1.7 in this video.
is the focus also slow on the panasonic when you're selecting your focus manually, for example when filming some cinematic shots?
Sorry I missed your question. The manual focus seems to be fine.
I think some of the Panasonic focus problems have been improved by recent firmware upgrades from Olympus
specifically for these lenses
Love your work Rob
Thank you.
Hi Rob !
Relevant video as usual 😉.
Did you compare the performances at low light ?
Thanks. I didn't compare low light. I don't expect any difference though.
Now with the G9 II as first serious MFT video AF camera. Does the quicker AF speed of the Zuiko help there as well?
It will depend on the lens. I'm not sure about the 25mm focus motors, but in general, all cameras will benefit from faster motors.
Thanks for the great review. This question is for you are anyone in the Olympus community. I have the first generation Olympus 14-150 that is, not weather seal. With the new one will I gain sharpness along with the weather sealing.
I hope someone can answer for you, as I have no first-hand experience on this. Maybe try the mu43 forums. Lots of great folks there.
Is the autofocus and chromatic aberration when using with an Olympus body an issue for things like street photography?
I'm not having issues with the AF, but many have said at f4 there is some missed focusing. The chromatic aberration is not bad and easily fixed in post processing.
Thanks for answering this question, Rob. Seems like it's better to save the pennies for the olympus version.
what was the Lumix like on a Lumix body?
This was on an Olympus camera. I wonder if the focus speed would be similar on a Panasonic body, or if the Panasonic or Olympus lens would be faster at video focus on the Panasonic body?
Unfortunately I don't have a Panasonic body to test that scenario.
@@RobTrek Looking further into this, other people seem to be in agreement that the Olympus lens does focus faster on Panasonic bodies as well as on Olympus bodies. The same appears to be true as well, of the Olympus 17mm f1.8 vs Panasonic 20mm f1.7. Olympus appears to use a better in-lens focusing system, at least for these lenses. However, there also seems to be general agreement, that out of these 4 lenses, it is the 20/1.7 that is sharpest, but also slowest and noisiest when it comes to AF on both Olympus and Panasonic bodies.
Thank U Sir..this is what I need...
But I have a question..what do you think I If use lumix G95 that most reviewers say have a autofocus issue and mix with Olympus 25mm 1.7...is that gonna solve the autofoucus much.much better..??
Thank U for your respon..cause I'm.thingking about get a Lumix G95 body..and not sure about the autofocus
Unfortunately, I don't have the g95 to test. Maybe ask over at mu-43.com Lots of helpful folks there.
I dont know if its just me but when the Panasonic lens focuses it actually looks a lot better in video quality.
Also maybe you could do a comparison between the 12-50 olympus and the 12-40 pro
The Panasonic is a fine lens, looked kinda the same to me though. I don't have a 12-50mm to compare. Thanks.
Nice video!
That Pana lens is really slow, at least at Oly bodies. 🤔
Can't wait for the Oly rugged camera review.
Cheers!
Thanks. They are slow in video. Actually a little weird in stills, but not enough to make a difference that I can measure.
@@RobTrek hey Rob, do you know how the here slow Panasonic works on a Panasonic Lumix camera? Do you think that's a better connection? I am currently thinking of selling my Olympus lenses I currently use with a G70. A 17.5mm and 42. 5mm. Aim to get a 25 and 20. Later a 15/14 and 42.5
@@RobTrek also do you here use the Panasonic 25mm I or II Version?
@@niasboiii It's the 25mm f/1.7, I don't think they made a version II. There are two versions of the 25mm f/1.4 which this is not.
@@niasboiii I didn't test on a Panasonic, but it should work better. I really don't know.
Sorry if you have answered already. I have oly em1 mark ii. Would Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 good for video AF? Thanks for your efforts
It seems to work fine for video. Probably not as good as the Oly version, but I use the Panasonic lens all the time for video with little trouble.
I got the PL 15mm on my Oly em52 it's fast and has great color I was love it. More fun to use then my phone even though they have the exact fl.
I like the 15mm focal length, might have to give the pl 15 a look. Thanks.
Helpful review! I’m curious was the sound recorded directly with the mk II ?
Yes it was! I used a wireless mic and then very basic sound processing in post.
Amazing video!
Thanks!
THANK U SO MUCH FOR REAL TEST!
Thanks for watching.
Hey, what if there is someone behind the camera using the touchscreen to choose where the focus goes ?
Hi Rob do some of your lens work better, when not on there native bodies than others or is the performance consistently slow across focal lengths and apertures ?. And do you think that question is two video question, stills and video? As reviews now do seem to be polorising into the separate camps of videos and still with their respective flaws to needs being examined. Thanks again for the helpful and entertaining videos the inclusion of music is a nice touch also, great stuff.
I really don't have enough variety of lenses for my Olympus cameras to answer that. My 25mm and 7-14mm are Panasonic, the rest are Olympus. The 7-14mm fine for stills, and I've never used it for video. Thanks.
Appreciate the video…disappointing results! Was considering a OM camera; most folks say no issues if using my Pan lenses even in video (other than the IBIS), but this doesn’t support that.
The Panasonic lenses work pretty well on the EM1 and OM1 series with phase detect. I don't think I done a video comparing on higher end models.
Hi, I’m considering buying a used Pen F with the Pano 25mm thrown in. A bit over 8400 exposure count for 779. Silver top too. A new, all black, open-box from New Jersey (Adorama likely) for $820. I’m thinking with the 25 mm I should go for it. Any thoughts?
Looks like a great deal but I'd probably wait for the EM5-III to come out. I think it's supposed to be announced this month.
It is a very practical comparison with the 2 lenses which I really needed get my head around. I am currently using an olympus EPL9 and using 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 lens and looking to expand the lenses collection. I am going to Iceland and likely take a lot of scenic photos, especially Northern lights, fingers crossed. I am debating whether to get the Panasonic or Olympus 25mm F1.7/1.8 (for better aperture for the northern lights/?weather proof) or another longer focal length lenses (for variety/purpose) as I have read a post that say my original lens may be sufficient for the Northern lights? Would you be able to give me some advice, please? Thank you for your help.
I've never photographed northern lights so can't advise. However, consider the 17mm f/1.8 over the 25mm. I find it more useful long term. Others prefer the 25mm over the 17mm, so you'll have to decide.
@@RobTrek Thank you for your recommendation. I am currently having a 2nd search with your advice. It is a bit pricey but at a reasonable range, luckily I still have time to think about whether this purchase is necessary! As I am going to whale watching as well, thats why I was think about a longer focal length, may change my mind and get a completely different lens. Much appreciated with your reply!
this support use to olympus omd em10 mark II, mr. rob?
Yes, you can use any of these lenses on the em10 mark ii.
@@RobTrek thank you sir
I find that with single point auto-focus the Pana lens in normal room light takes a very long time to focus and sometimes doesn't get it at all. I've been considering going to the Oly just because of that but I've also heard that because the Oly and Pana cameras have different internal cutoff filters that you can get a blue/purple fringe using the Pana on and Oly body unless you also use an external filter. Anyone know if that is true?
The cameras and/or lens have software in them to correct fringing to a degree. Sometimes Pana doesn't have the data to fix Oly lenses and visa-versa. Firmware updates sometimes fix this, but it's hard to cover every combination. Best solution is to fix in post processing, though not always perfect. Look for lenses and/or cameras that have updated firmware. If the camera has not been updated after a lens has been release, then the chances of problems when mixing brands goes up. As for physical filters, that is way beyond my knowledge base to answer. Hopefully a more competent person can chime in. Maybe check in at the mu43 forums.
Hi, i would like to take an olympus lens to use with a panasonic g85. I already have a 75mm 1.8 olympus lens which is good for photos but for videos it makes a noise when I change the aperture. Does this lens have the same problem? I use S mode set to 100 when I shoot so I don't have to manually change the aperture and ISOs.
The 75mm does clatter a bit more than others. Most lenses that have the MSC logo will be almost silent. The 25mm is very quite.
@@RobTrek Hi, thank you for answer. I would like to buy an Olympus 17mm or 25mm 1.8 aperture so I can filming with low light. I have a 20 mm Panasonic but it isn't so good for video (too slow and noise).
Hi Rob, just discovered your channel and immediately subscribed! I'd like to ask couple questions if I May. I mainly shoot video. Just got OMD.M1 Mark III with 12-100 F4 Pro lens. I noticed there is audible sound from the AF mechanism and it transfers to the footage especially if I film a quiet scene. You can hear in the footage.. I am wondering if the 25mm f1.7 would do the same. Also, I love the skin tone and picture quality of your video.. Would you mind sharing the setting you have? What Olympus camera you shoot on anyway ? Thanks a bunch!!!
Thanks. My ears are not quite as sensitive as they used to be so I can't reliably say if the 25mm would be any better. For video, you want to use an external mic. There are many choices but I would recommend starting with a small boom mic. I use a amzn.to/3ijiiKh As for color, I use auto-WB and Natural Color mode most of the time when outside.
@@RobTrek Are Panasonic lenses (25mm f1.7) compatible with new Oly PDAF system (Olympus EM1 MKIII)? Thanks.
So would you propose the panasonic 25 mm for Olympus em10 mark iii? I would like your advice because i am inexperienced user! I am interested in photography and i want a low light lens... I own 14-42 iir, i want to get the Olympus 40-150mm f4 and i don't know what a prime low light lens to get...It would be used for photography but Continuous Auto Focus would be needed (for scenes such as a running person). Thank you in advance!
You should be fine with the Panasonic, but I've not used it for running people. You might want to check out the mu-43 forum for advice on that. www.mu-43.com/forums/olympus-cameras.42/
Here's an idea: stop depending on technology and DO IT YOURSELF. Auto focus will never replace manual focus for determining the focus intent of the photographer.
Ok.
I've never noticed anything from aquiring focus for stills thankfully.
Me neither. Some have said that at f/4.0 there is some back focusing. But I've never experienced it.
Good morning Rob,
I love your tutorials, they have been very helpful. I have just purchased an Olympus OM-DE-M1 mark ii and would like to know what you would lens 's you would recommend I start with. I love shooting macro, wildlife all kinds. Occasionally photograph people and scenery and like creative photography. I never use video. I am changing over from a bridge camera and it's a whole new experience. Your advice would be much appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Linda
Congrats on the e-m1! It really depends on your budget. The cheapest way for macro is the 40-150mm f/4-5.6 with macro extension tubes. I have a video on that setup. The best macro lens is the Olympus 60mm macro - also makes a great portrait lens. For wildlife, the 75-300mm is a great budget choice, but best by far is the 300mm f/4 with teleconverter. Hope that helps.
Rob how do i set up Olympus 25mm f1.8 to my em5 mk3 can't get the focus ring yo do anything
Hi. In the super control panel, go to the AF box and select S-AF + MF or MF. Let me know if that worked. -Rob
halo.. you prefer olympus 25mm f1.8 OR panaleica 25mm f1.4 for the best emage quality for the olympus Pen F? I plan to buy one of them for model and product prhotoshoot.
I think both lenses are very good. I prefer Olympus because it is more compatible with my other Olympus cameras. Image quality is the same to my eyes.
Maybe that's the reason it's half the price of the Olympus lens. Also remember Olympus classifies this lens as one of their Premium lens, don't think Panasonic does the same.
I wonder how the DG Summilux 25mm f/1.4 lens would compare to the Olympus lens?
Hard to say why Olympus charges as much as they do for their 25mm. I hear the Summilux is sharper and contrastier. I don't own it so can't compare.
I've recently had an encounter with strong purple fringing/flares when I was trying out old Canon glass on my EM10 in some night shots. Street lights, and the purple was impossible to ignore, unfortunately it was also impossible to get rid of in post (Rawtherapee for me).
What's your experience with the purple from the Pana 1.7 wide open? Specifically with nightshots? (I'd expect the software to have an easier time with the usual fringes on trees in daylight)
I'll look at my shots or take some new ones to specifically look for this. Try and get back to you asap.
@@RobTrek Thank you Rob!
Been reading through some threads - experiences are inconclusive. Some don't mind the CA too much, others sent their lenses back... (One even complained about bad aberrations in ooc jpgs with the lens on a Pana body.)
I' m currently leaning towards the manual and ultra-cheap Meike 25mm. If I have to deal with purple anyway...
Also worth considering: If I need to get a high density 2A UV filter to set my mind at ease, that would add another 30 Euros to the cost of the lens.
Should I get the 25mm 1.8 or just go for the 1.2? I have the olympus omd em10 m3. Currently still using my kit lense 14-42mm
I'd get the 1.8. The 1.2 is too big and expensive for little benefit.
@@RobTrek thank you sir, i just bought the 1.8, it really is no point to have a big o lens on such a compact cam, as it was the main reason why i buy omd em10 m3.
Hi Rob. Which one would you recommend to use on Pen f between 12-40mm and 25mm f/1.2 pro? Thank you.
It really depends, they are very different lenses. But I'd get the 12-40mm pro for it's versatility.
Maybe both, but it depends. 12-40 as versatile travel lens which is capable in low light situations for static scenes (dawn, dark rainy day), 25 f1.2 for social events when IS won't save you, because people are moving and also it has quite natural field of view. I'm using all 12-35/f2.8, 12-60mm/f3.5-5.6, 20mm/f1.7 and 45mm/f1.8. First two as travel lens (image quality is pretty good on both, 12-35 suffers from lens flare and has shorter zoom range ... 12-60 was very cheap as G80 kit lens and it's surprisingly flawless). last two for indoor photos with people and 45mm for outdoor photos as well (people, kids, ...). Actually 45mm is my only Olympus lens and I like it a lot.
I just shoot stills so I bought the Pana. With the price difference I could almost buy the Oly 45 mm f 1.8.
The Pana 25 was my first prime!
Am surprised in photography C-AF performs the same in both lenses. However, I've noted Olympus lenses tend to be brighter and a bit desaturated than Panasonic lenses. I wonder why is that?
It varies lens to lens. Ultimately the differences are very subtle and shouldn't persuade your buying decision.
Please please do your video on the TG5
Okay, will start working on it. Give me a week or two.
Hey Rob,
I am planning to get a used Olympus E-M10 Mark II along with a Panasonic 25mm f1.7 lens. Is it a good option according to you?
Yes, it' a great start. The lens is fine for photography. In video it's a little slow to focus compared to Olympus.
@@RobTrek Thanks for the advice.
One more doubt, is the Olympus E-M10 Mark II good at high iso. Cause I am planning to use it for street photography at night.
have read and seen that the Lumix 25mm 1.7 suffers quite badly from focus shift?(stills)
I have not experienced that issue.
I'm considering a 25mm fast lens. Using olympus m1 mark ii. Pana is a tiny bit cheaper, but it is weather sealed. But yes, updating lenses needs the same brand camera to be updated 😬 what would you recommend? I like to go out in all sorts of weather 😅
Photography, not video 😊
I think the Panasonic 25mm f/1.4 II is your best bet if you want weather resistance. I wouldn't worry about updating the lens firmware as there currently aren't any that I'm aware of. Using Panasonic lenses on Olympus generally is fine except for a few minor features like focus stacking in-camera. AF is fine for photography.
😂 the shout out to camera conspiracies killed me... Anyway, very interesting video. Makes me want to test for myself. Have Oly bodies and 2 Panny lenses; the 12-32mm pancake kit zoom for travel and the 42.5mm f1.7 lumix for portrait and semi-macro. I'm not much of a video person.
I love that little 12-32mm. Will definitely get that with any Panasonic I buy.
I have a Lumix 14mm that will only manually focus once after turning autofocus off on my E-P5
I don't have that lens but maybe check for firmware updates that might fix it.
@@RobTrek Cheers.
I have a question. When I have the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 mounted on my em-10 II...it gives kind of a WB flicker while it focuses at autofocus. Obviously that usually takes less than a second but it is noticeable and none of my Olympus lens does this. Is is common for all Panasonic lenses OR is it a thing about lack of understanding between the Olympus body and Panasonic lens OR my lens is broken?
Thank you very much for your time and effort.
I never use my Panasonic for video with autofocus, but will give this a try and test on both my panasonic lenses. There is a firmware update ver1.1 for it related to autofocus. Might want to try that.
@@RobTrek Thanks for your reply. I actually meant autofocus for still photography. That causes a WB flicker (or that's what I call it) on my em-10 II body. How do I update? Update the camera or the lens? I think the body. Right?
Hi Rob, been looking at the Pany 12-32 MM len,s. Had great review,s, but was worried how it marrie,s up to my OMD. This nail,s it, work,s fine for still,s, not interested in video, so all good. Around £90, equiv Olympus is pro glass only, circa £500, no brainer. Until I can afford the 12-100 pro len,s, circa £750 the Pany fill,s the gap.
I use the 12-32mm a lot on my E-M5 Mark III. Seems the panasonic lenses work well with the phase detect AF cameras from Olympus for both stills and video. I concur with the great reviews on the 12-32mm. It's sharper than my Oly 14-42mm and nearly as sharp as my Oly 12-40pro. I like the wider 12mm focal length and the compact size.
@@RobTrek Thank you Rob for great advice, definately owe you a coffee, next paycheck.
I have the 45mm 1.8 and several zooms. What Would you recommend: 17mm or 25mm (or pana 20mm) ?
I'd probably go with the 17mm myself. I prefer wider (35mm) than normal for stills.
If you want one lens, 25 mm best choice, if you want two lens, 17+45 much superior!)
@@Dron011089 42.5 Lumix is a great lens
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
@@RobTrek This would also apply to street shooting. Could you consider making a similar video for the comparison for street shots and pen-f with another for settings to myset?
Yes, the PenF is definitely a street shooter and has settings that can't be done in any other camera. Will have to give some thought to a location that will show off the differences. Will try to do one for you soon, as good weather and my free time don't often align.
@@RobTrek looking forward to it. I'm currently in a smaller town right now and find it challenges me more compositionally. Thank you my friend.
9:01 What is your dog wearing? 😂
Haha! It's a leg of one of my sweat pants I cut off.
Would the Panasonic lens perform better on a Panasonic body?
Yes. Particularly with Panasonic's Depth from Defocus feature should improve AF.
Thank you
You're welcome~!
How's the Panasonic AF speed after the last firmware update?
Hi, I was using the latest firmware for the Pana lens in this video. On the EM10-ii, there was one more firmware update after this video, but it didn't address anything for AF. So the results in this video should still be valid.
@@RobTrek Thank you! I might grab the Olympus lens if there's a sale.
So you would recommend the Olympus? Why is the footage darker in the Panasonic when the f stop is 1.7?
I recommend Olympus lenses for Olympus cameras. There is additional discussion on CA not being corrected and other differences in focus for stills with Panasonic lenses used on Olympus cameras. I think the Panasonic footage was darker possibly due to a slight change in ambient light and/or being in autoiso mode and the camera decided to drop down 1/3 of a stop.
Okay thank you. What about when I use the GH5 from Panasonic?
You should have no issues with the GH5 if using Panasonic lenses. I don't own that camera, so can't say firsthand.