Sims 4 is only still getting players because of the modding community. If the modders stopped then people wouldn’t touch sims 4 and only play sims 3 or sims 2 and maybe sims 1 if they can
I think there’s a big chunk of vanilla players out there but yeah if the modding community left the game, that’s when we’ll start to see the sims 4 struggle in popularity
This is precisely why Life By You have recently said that they will give modders free reign to make whatever mods they want and sell them. It's a really smart move. EA could lose a LOT of their modders. This could potentially attract a LOT of modders to switch to LBY, but only if LBY fixes the problems with their character models.
I feel like the moment Life By You and Paralives got announced and felt real (not a scam, like many "life sims, sims competitors" that got announced over the years but never came out), I lost all interest in The Sims 4. I'm thrilled there's finally alternatives!
Exactly the same for me. I barely touch the game anymore. It's odd... I don't have many lasting memories of the game. Only a few funny moments but that's it. Meanwhile I can still remember the vampire/witch/werewolf/fairy roommate household from the Sims 3, from many many years ago, with an immense sense of nostalgia and clarity.
I feel like players who have gone back to the sims 3 and 2 are part of a peaceful nostalgic corner of life simulation that appreciates what we had at the time. The sims 3 is my main sims game and I’m dying to get back into the sims 2. I think those games will always have that special group that enjoy the older versions of the sims.
I feel like it's the sims 3 players who glorified the sims 3 meanwhile if I create a dog my game crashes.the open world is great but the life gameplay sucks,you can't even talk and eat.besides the world,im a sims 4 and 2.
@@holy9781 I'm sorry that you couldn't enjoy the sims 3 experience, sims 3 has trouble on newer laptops/pcs, actually most old games do. On another note sims 3 sims can talk while eating just only with sims sitting at another table close enough or at the same table. Also most of us are casual players, we don't glorify the game we just play it.
@@holy9781 Sims 3 was unoptimized even for its time I had the game crash once but only once If you are on an older laptop its going to be much much harder because the game didn't run well when it came out Another big thing to note is mods Narss I think the name was makes a lot of performance and optimization mods for the Sims 3 and unfortunately you need these performance and optimization mods for a good experience
People having the mentality to tell others to be grateful to a large corporation is crazy, especially when the criticism is valid. Having war seems even crazier. I don’t doubt it would happen, but like go outside. There’s a lot better things someone can do with their time. Expending that much energy to fight with people online isn’t worth it. I can’t wait for the new games. They all look so cool and fun. I can’t tell you the last time I thought anything the Sims 4 put out was fun. We all should’ve stopped buying Sims stuff years ago. I think it’s the competition coming out that led to the most recent boycott. There’s really nothing the Sims can do about it either. Whatever cools ideas they come out with to keep us hooked won’t work, because of the limitations of the engine they made the game with. They’d literally have to break it down and rebuild it to make 100% functional, and that’s just not going to happen. Their best bet is to finally let the Sims 4 die, no new dlc, nothing, and move on to the Sims 5. They’re years over due for another part of the franchise that’s not a spin-off. If they can make that game 10x better than any game in the franchise, then they won’t have anything to worry about with competition. We can all be happy with that and the new games.
I never understood the mentality of “being grateful” for a something you buy… Yess I’m so excited to play something new. Even if I still had fun with the sims 4, which same that hasn’t been the case for a long while, the fatigue of playing with same games for so long is real. It’s past the time for more options.
I am looking forward to be getting to play LBU. I would LOVE to TRY a NEW game aside of thevSims 4. The Sims 4 is sooo broken to that is almost to the point of impossible to even PLAY the Sims 4 anymore. And EA/THE SIMS TEAM sure does NOT seem in hurry to FIX the broken game. That said I still enjoy playing Sims 3. At leaste it has Cars and other good things about it plus the NOT to bad for game play yes it COULD be BETTER but its ok to play still. Again I can't wait to play LBU anx one day Enzoi hopefully. Not sure how I feel about para lives though it looks like it MAY be a good game from what videos i have seen of it. I JUST FEEL Its NOT my something I would allways want to play. It does NOT seem to hold my interest either. NOT like LBU seems too. N the paradox team is doing some great stuff with LBU. So yeah. I can NOT wait for early access. June 4th! 🤩👍 btw ty for this post. 👍✌
The “ungrateful” argument is so backwards to me because EA is not giving you this product out of the kindness of their heart. They want your money. Too many people get so wrapped up in defending their fave that they forget that. The Sims 4 has been such a major disappointment compared to its predecessors, and I have zero hope for The Sims 5.
Lul yea I play dozens of games. I'm a consumer, and this is my entertainment product I'm buying. Why the heck should I be "grateful" and "loyal" to a specific company from which i only bought a single product? Should i be grateful and loyal to all products I ever bought? I literally cannot understand that argument.
The only reason Sims 4 is still relevant is because EA is using the Sim’s “game changers” to prop and hype it up to younger and newer players, and let's not forget about the “critical Sims reviewers” who still buy the DLC and pretty much give it a free promo. I’ve been an avid supporter since the original Sims. Have the entire collection, with the exception of Sims 4. The sims at one point was a very beloved franchise to me. I’m the reason my siblings started playing it, and then later on in my life, I introduced it to my nieces. Sims 4 has been such a big disappointment. I remember when I first purchased Sims 4 on release and doing something I had never done with any previous version, which was uninstalling and not touching the game for an entire year. At one point, I returned and hoped and really believed that it would improve, but it never did. I’ve since been actively boycotting with my wallet. It was fun while it lasted, but I never thought my love for the Sims would end like this. All good things will come to an end, I suppose. I appreciate your input provided in this video, it really validates what a lot of us have been feeling.
Validation is so needed. On the surface, the sims 4 is made to look like it has only a few problems but in reality there’s a big issue with the game that makes long time players like us unfortunately have to step away. Game Changers have so much power it’s honestly scary. But I get it why they do what they do. I’m just hoping for the ones who have been unhappy with the game for so long finally get that spark back with these new games coming soon.
I started playing the franchise with Sims 3. I loved the open world, the festivals, cars, etc. I got Sims 4 upon release and fully expected it to improve on the previous game, but was stunned at how terrible it was. I uninstalled it after a week and completely stopped playing Sims for years until I started up again during the p@ndemic. At this point, I can’t wait for alternative simulation games like LBY and Paralives.
@@dibel3669 From a financial point of view, the Sims does not need to be saved. Whether you want to admit it to yourself or not. The Sims is a huge cash cow for EA. The new games from the competition won't change that situation.
The one that will be the best is, the one that have MOST options and added feature without a lot of mods needed but still allow mods to be implemented to the game. So what is it? Well for me it would be SIMS 2 lore and story progressions and SIMS 3 open worldness then Mix with the upgrades of sims 4 house decorations and house buildings. I wish and pray for this in paralives and hope that they also allow the community to mod the game.
Options aren’t always good. Sometimes we think systems need to be more complex than they are and results can be regrettable. On the other hand, you don’t wanna choke players with over-simplicity either. There’s a balance to be found in the middle. In reality, not everyone likes the same things. And I don’t think there has to be a “best” game there will just be games hopefully with thriving communities around them for all our separate and diverse reasons of what we like to play.
As someone who’s in favor of the more options the better, I think I might get overwhelmed if a game tried to pack so much into one experience. Balance is definitely the key here. The games that requires the least amount of mods to enjoy will definitely be my favorite as well
thats why im going to college gaming artist and digital artist and learn fix bug and lag this year to save the sims bcause im a simmer for longtime, i love the sims and play everyday for years and its my childhood dream to know how to make games
Tsm4 community gets mad at EA for making packs only for the money but at the same spend their money on packs. But also somehow want compensation when they CHOSE to spend their money on a game they already knew was corrupt. Thats one of the things I hate about tsm4 community
You can hate them for being addicted, but it's not fair. The Sims is currently the only one in that genre. There is/was no comparable competition. Once there is one competitor, the Sims "fans" will drop EA like a hot brick.
I really agree with you, it doesn't have to be a war we can like different elements of all the games. It's be like saying red dead players can't enjoy the last of us because they're both action adventure. I really hope that the diversity of choice in the genre actually mellows the drama put because people can just be happy in their new communities and not have the conflict of so many different types of life sim players being given the one game and having to be in that together.
sims 3 needs to be included in this too. it's "easier" to run than 1 and 2 but it's still an unoptimized mess that would benefit from re-release touch-ups
I never regret pirating sims 4. With all the packs I downloaded it is still UNPLAYABLE. Bad game Also I'd like to add a quick note: If you join any of the sims 4 community and say a slightly inconvenient thing about ts4 they remove you without any warning
Honestly, the EA have already shown how threatened they are. Several things were implemented after other life sims showed them off for their own game plans. Eg, sims 4 platforms and curved walls, sims 5 bed extension tool, bunk beds…)
The Switchers, The Loyalists (most are EA partners) and The Newbies category is a great analysis on how divided the sims 4 community is. Most of them loyalists I have beef with due to their toxic intakes on TWITTER (which I recently got onto and I regret it somewhat) because they don't play any other genre of games, so I take their opinions with a grain of salt when they do critiques on other games mostly in the simulation genre. But all in all the gaming community (no matter the game title) and game industry seem toxic to me.
i kinda blame the players bc they’re doing the same thing with TS4 they did with TS3, they were tired of TS3 and wanted EA to make a new game, when EA released "into the future" it flopped so hard they knew they had to release TS4 very soon if they wanted to keep sales up, they rushed and released something that wasn’t even fully finished and had to change direction (coming from a game who was supposed to be online to make it a single player game and led to what we know today : full of bugs and less features overall.) I also blame the players because even though they complain over and over (and if we’re being honest they complained since the release of the base game) they keep the game alive by buying more and more. Players have the power to keep that game alive or make it dead. If we’re being honest without players’ money EA cannot do shit. They don’t wanna listen to y’all complaints about their game being literally unplayable ? Fine, DON’T buy more then. EA is a company like another, they don’t care what we think about their games until it impacts the sales. They’ll act like a "friendly company creating new things for people who support them", like every business do, the truth is they don’t care about what we say until they lose money and it shows. If you don’t believe me or think i’m exaggerating, EA is known for only thinking about bills, video games players know that when EA buy a franchise from another company, they’ll add micro transactions and make them games unplayable because of that. I think the same thing that happened to TS3 is gonna happen with TS4, they TRY to avoid it by releasing more packs and for the moment it’s working. But slowly it’ll die which is most likely already happening ig? and this time the situation is even worse because sims players aren’t "waiting for a new EA game", they’re waiting for the "new life simulator game".
I am glad that new sims-like games is going to be out anytime soon. If any, the sims needs to become better if they want to keep the franchise alive (and I hope neither of these news game developers accept any EA partnership, they destroy everything they touch).
Wow, I love your editing in this video, felt like a documentary and I do hope we see less of The Sims. I'm just so disappointed, and I really used to love their games. My hopes are with Paralives, Inzoi and LBY. My guess is that EA will try very hard to appeal to the public but when a new good game come out, we'll see less people engaging with TS4 and even TS5.
The Sims 5 can end in Cities Skylines 2 disaster. People used to use DLCs, and if a new clean game comes out, people would say "But the previous game was better!". It would be very hard to code the whole game with all the DLCs from scratch and update it with even more DLCs later. And yes, I see that games are harder and harder to pirate and what is the best way to make a game unpiratable? Make it free! And pay2win its contents.
If EA is not heeding any signs that all the other life sim games are trying to take a piece of the pie. The Sims 4 and Project Rene will be doomed. However, I personally don't think any of the games are capable to "take down" the Sims, but they are well capable to chip any the monopoly that has been held for over 2 decades. Interesting analysis of the groups of Sims players, it is a broad distinction but a good analysis nonetheless.
that would be because they're 3D scans, just like everything else in the game. there's no life or personality in inzoi because everything was generated by machines with little to no human touch
I dont even "play" sims 4 i just make cc and pretty builds and sims recreating things i like to take nice arty pictures.... i actually play sims 2 and 3 as a game more Im not saying i hate the sims 4 either but i do get disappointed sometimes when it doesnt behave like i want it to especially not being able to edit worlds
ngl , i feel like inzoi will not actually come out. it just feels like one those games with a lot of promises and interesting aesthetics... but it's probably too good to be true. i just think that it''l just keep getting delayed or the devs will ghost. kind of like dokev
That makes no sense considering the money they put into sending people PCs to play test, all the new info about features added to the game after the play test and listening to their discord community about what features they want added. They listened and added stuff. And even publicly opened up the server to get more people to give in their input. They aren’t wasting their time and money like that.
I can’t be the only one that finds the newer life sims kind of creepy and uncanny. Lol especially Inzoi. It taps the part of my brain that fears things like that.
Fully aware that this video was created before the cancellation of Life by You. Please take my comment with a grain of salt. I have been playing the Sims since Sims 1. When I complain about something in Sims 4, I am speaking from experience with this company and this franchise so when people tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, I just shrug it off because they don't know who they're talking to. The Sims need competition. They are monopolizing this genre of gameplay, and it is time that changes. Why they're so sloppy and why they don't fix things in an orderly fashion it's because they know they monopolize this genre of gameplay and are cocky to believe that they have no competitors. Enter InZoi which I believe will offer EA some serious competition. Completed, I believe Paralives will offer them some true competition. There is a war within the simpson community because of the fact there are currently no other games to offer competition. Once that occurs, you will see the community calm down and change pace.
Once all these competitors come out, EA will probably ask themselves if its worth it to spend the money in the race. Does the person leading the race need to think about the people behind him? I play Dragon Age by EA/Bioware and their response to Baldur's Gate 3 (their biggest competition in years) was to fire more of Bioware's team when Dragon Age 4 is supposed to be out anytime now...EA games do not have pretty deaths...
The Sims Devs focus waaay tooo much on woke stuff... then fixing the game or make it better and fun to play. I don't think they can fix bugs or know how to make you drive a car etc. They just focus on gay looking clothing and try milk it like crazy.... They will have a major problem if Inzoi comes out great and don't F it up with somthing very stupid. Can't wait for it to fail. They need a slap in the face to become great again!
in lifesims games very inportant a good balance between "realistic" and "not realistic". life by you and paralives, I think, are too much realistic. i dont want to play this games.
Every one of those games is lacking. Inzoi is too photorealistic, LBY runs on realtime, making progress REAL slow (you can timeskip, but what's the fun in that!?) Paralives is overhyped and IMO built top-down rather than bottom up, Sims5 will be just the same as Sims4, and about Vivaland, that's the first time I've heard about it...
i'm confused by what you mean by "LBY runs on realtime". time moves in the same way that the sims does, aka one second irl = one minute in-game. "realtime" would be how time moves in animal crossing, aka syncing to the real world clock. if that's what you mean, i'm not sure where you got that idea, but that's not what LBY is doing 😅
@@canariawing You know how in the Sims your character goes from birth to death in 90 days, but in real life it takes 7300 days just to reach adulthood!? Well, then it was confirmed that in LBY it will also take 7300 days to reach adulthood...
It will absolutely not take just as many years for the sims to die off. May I remind you of how EA messed up so bad with SimCity 5 that it was singlehandedly outperformed and replaced by Cities Skylines within one release, even though SimCity has been a thing since 1989 (way longer than the Sims). EA has not released a mainline SimCity game ever since that happened. They made an (unsuccessful) mobile game and an (unsuccessful) facebook game that was taken down after less than a year, and the franchise has basically died. All it takes is for a competitor to release a game that is *significantly* better than the Sims and that's it. The gaming industry is fast-paced and very competitive. And I think neither EA, nor many fans of the Sims have really understood that yet. EA is currently repeating the same mistakes they made with SimCity (bugs not being fixed, too much frankly low-quality paid DLC, pushing for online integration and possibly multiplayer despite players' wishes to remain offline singleplayer). I would absolutely not be surprised if they get their butts handed to them a second time, since they refuse to learn.
EA quit and EA didn’t try. They literally shut down the branch of Maxis that worked on SimCity and that had zero to do with City Skylines. It would be sad if they did that with sims franchise but I don’t think it will. SimCity 2013 and Sims 4 are not equal cases. SimCity 2013 crashed and burned immediately due the later revoked always online requirement that made the launch a catastrope. And honestly, its not a bad game now that that always online requirement doesn’t exist. There are also people who still play and still find some things about it more charming than City Skylines. But at the end of the day, City Skylines did not fight and win against EA, in fact Paradox was too afraid to go against EA when Collossal Order devs first proposed a city builders. City Skylines was only greenlit because SimCity had ALREADY failed and so there was an abandoned spot just ripe for a game. Also, SimCity 2013 itself did not build a thriving game community around it the same as Sims 4 for a decade, this includes modders. My modded version of my Sims 4 game I do plan to very much keep playing even when I have Paralives and maybe LBY (we’ll see what happens with InZoi…fence sitting until public release). Much like Sims 2 and 3, despite its problems Sims 4 will have people that still love it, still stick with it, and still find it better than the alternatives. And some of it might just be familiarity as Paralives, InZoi, LBY (maybe Vivaland and who knows what else) will have there little ways of not being the Sims. Which will be comforting to some and send others back to the comfort of the thing they know.
@@TheDawnofVanlife But that's exactly my point: Fans going back to older sims games isn't making EA any money. They will need to put in work for people to migrate over to Sims 5 whenever that comes out. The problem they have now is that *if* Sims 5 fails and there are competitors who might do better, that could actually lead to EA just throwing in the towel like they did with Sim City. And that's where I see them making the same mistakes as they did before with the online requirement, etc.
I don't know that the competitors need to be better, even. Just good enough that EA no longer feel like they have a monopoly. Would they put in the same effort for two thirds the sales? Would that make sense for their budget? Even if the three main competitors nab only 10% each of the market share, EA might find that their money is better spent elsewhere. They certainly won't spend MORE money to get the SAME income. They are pinching pennies as it is.
ea is just a money hungry company, so many of their games not just the sims, but especially their sports games. like you said, all it takes is one good ass game, a COMPLETED game, to come out with the right mechanics, gameplay, and lack of bugs, and people will move. ea is slowly dying because of greed.
@@evest7829 Sims 3 is still making them money, they still sell it along with several older Maxis titles (not sims 2, but they still sell SimCity 4 for example). They just don't update it or push it anymore and they certainly couldn't sustain current day EA on it. But currently its costing them no money to keep it on the storefront and they make a little from it being there. And I am sure that will be the case for Sims 4 after Renee is launched as Sims 5 or Sims-whatever-it-ends-up-being.
I remember playing the sims 3 on its release. Base game of sims 3 captivated me for months. Then the sims 4 came out and I was bored on the 1st day of playing it. And I know that sims 4 changed since its release, but DANG! While they were “updating” sims 4, I managed to finish uni, get married and have kids. I’m not going to wait until my retirement to see an “updated the sims 5”. People don’t live that long
I will never play The Sims 5 and won't continue playing The Sims 4 even though I'd like to, just because of their unsafe Software. Origin was so unsafe, it was always getting hacked, even Minutes after Support fixed it. I was hoping I can play it on Steam, but no I can't. Because you need to launch that for it too and I won't endanger my Steam Account because of that. Guess it's back to The Sims 1
The only thing that matters to EA is how much money the Sims can bring in, otherwise it’s dead to the company, just like Mirror’s Edge. That alone gives me hope the series can improve, but we saw EA willing to risk it all with their release of SimCity. Ultimately, the quality of the game in terms of reviews and opinions of players matters little to the company so long as it sells. In 2004, when the Sims 2 came out, reviews DID matter more because it better translated to sales. There were no streamers to draw attention to your product to get more people buying it.
Your videos omg! Such great editing and so detailed 💚The possessed Strangerville townie was a jumpscare 😅I never understood the "be grateful" statements, especially in a consumer context!
Thank youuu 💜 Knowing you enjoyed the editing makes what went into making this one so worth it. The strangerville townie still gets me and I put her there 😂 Right! How am I suppose to be grateful for something I bought? Makes no sense to me…
I am loyal to the Sims 3. I'm not loyal to EA or the Sims franchise. For me, I will definitely play all the new sims games. If I like them, I'll play less of the Sims 3.. If I don't like them, I'll keep playing the Sims 3. Pretty easy to me 😂😂 I do enjoy all the drama though!! I keep up with all Sims news probably like a sports fan keeps up with sports 😂😂
I think the people that get overly defensive of sims 4, and specially of EA, just don't like to exercise their critical thinking. I have over a thousand hours of gameplay in Sims 4, all original (bc I need mod support and already spent money on DLCs years ago), and don't actually want to switch to Sims 3 (mainly bc I've grown accostumed to the few new features of Sims 4), but I'm the first person to tell EA to f*ck off. I wouldn't be caught dead defending a company as shady and greedy as EA, much less their current behavior of sucking dry every good thing about a game franchise. If I'm giving them money you BET I'll criticize them when they don't deliver. People need to realize that their tastes are NOT the same thing as the soulless companies that make the stuff they love, and to worship a corporation is to set yourself up to failure, because those companies and the people who run them and profitt off of them literally don't care about anything other than money. That should be obvious for EA fans, seeing how easy they turned around Will Wright's critique of consumerism of the original Sims game into precisely an altar to it in only a few years. I still can enjoy Sims 4, with my 12gb of mods overhauling the lackluster DLC features, but as soon as the final game patch comes out, I'm updating my mods one last time and pirating the hell out of it, and staying there. I don't even want to touch Sims 5, because it all just looks like it's gonna be a facebook-style MMO and I've already had my fun playing those in 2015 as a kid, but now I can only give my time, energy and money to pay-once games that don't try to suck you dry.
My thoughts are that people are seeking nostalgia in this current time. We are quickly becoming annoyed by cash grabbing elite companies profiting and offering lackluster products. The soul has left the Sims along with all the bugs, it’s just not worth the money. It’s tiring to watch EA further release packs that should have been in the original game. Way back when the sims first came out I remember it would give you a certain feeling when playing it, along with the sims 2. Somewhere down the line EA sold out like the rest of these big companies. We are in the era of watching these companies collapse to make room for new and refreshing ideas built off pure creativity and love.
The only reason for the popularity of TS4 right now is because it is the only one available. We are getting not one or two but three life simulation games. I stopped playing Sims games. I'm done with them. The way they want to sell kit after kit without properly fixing the game made me stop playing. I will not support a Sim game from this Maxis team again. I will buy all the other three games once they are out. If they turned out well, then it's awesome. If they didn't, I'm not going back to the sims. I'm truly done with this toxic relationship.
It’s four! -Paralives -Inzoi -vivaland -life by you There’s also some smaller ones out that are VERY indie, like one dev. Live The Life is one but it’s supposedly very buggy (despite common belief, the dev is still actively updating and planning the roadmap for the game). another is denizen, these are both very early access tho.
Maxis is not at fault for this! They love this franchise. It's EA that bought them and fired everyone with any history of working on the Sims, and then EA ditched most of the software testers.
@Frenchaboo Maxis and EA both are one now. This argument that the gurus are innocent has become too old. They are all at fault. When asked about the Star Wars pack who said she was the responsible of giving the green light for that awful pack? Do we need to name her? They are all at fault. Don't let them fool you with their "good cop, bad cop" trick. They are not your friends. All they want is your whole wallet.
I'll probably continue to play Sims 3. I love me my supernaturals and it doesn't look like the new ones will have them. Though, who knows, maybe one of them will add them later? Regardless, I still plan on at least checking out the new games, even if I don't end up playing them long term.
Yes, some of us still talk about Alter Life. And we're shipping it with People of Newberry and other life sims scams that were around at that time. It also saddens me that these types of videos don't at least have an honorable mention to Little Sim World and Tiny Life as well. They have a completely different style of graphics (LSW is vectors and TL is pixel art) but they are also new life simulation games from indie studios. There's more to life sims than "Who will kill of The Sims?" 😋
If simcity is anything to go by, and there is a competitor that does what City Skylines did. I do believe that EA share in the life sim genre will shrink a good size. Plus there will be multiple life sim games. Sims won't be the main life sim game anymore, once each of these games fully release. It's going to slowly die. There's won't be a reason for them to invest more time and money in the game, when they can just pay more attention to their other games that gross more money than the sims. Madden and FIFA. The sims community may think sims is a huge game in EA portfolio. But it really isn't, especially compared to Madden or FIFA.
Honestly i dont really play the sims 4 much anymore. I usually only play it to build, I used to play it to make sims too but I honestly got over it. It's tiring spending hours making a sim and then to get into the game make a great ass house (bc thats all I really do is build) start up the world for 10 mins and quit bc its so laggy or my sim just stands there for 4 hours trying to do one task. I used to "like" the sims 4 I have many hours in it but at the same time its just so boring. Yeah ik im the one that's supposed to make the game fun, but how can I do that when my game lags out and I feel so distraught bc I forgot to save, then I dont touch the game for months. I used to like the sims 4 but I started realizing that the only reason why I continued buying this overpriced content was to bring joy and fun into the game. But when I download it and it goes into my game i see oh another laggy feature. Like I really was excited for apartments. (Y? Bc I like building) and the only reason I bought for rent was bc I could build apartments, but isnt that sad. Not playing the game for the simulation like i wish to do but instead im spending hundreds just to put "more" furniture and wallpapers in the game.
Like lets honestly think about this really quickly, the game all together, although its free the game expansions cost almost 1k all together. If the base game feels empty and the only way for u to make ur game better is to buy the extensions then why make ur game free to begin with. You can buy kits but what game play does that really add, you can buy expansion packs but all that really implements into ur game is a $50 unfinished game feature. Like lets be honest, the sims 4 having a "flop" area acouple years ago had them releasing small worlds, houses without toilets, and unnecessary features all for the (low) price of 49.99 and people ask why we mad. You charging a full price game for an extension. How does that make sense to the regular consumer.
Yes, tsm4 is boring because you have to do all the thinking and come up with scenarios. I wish tsm4 provided us with scenarios and more dramatic emotions to things that happen, for example, cheating. It's so boring, and the traits don't even seem like traits, just moods your sim temporary gets. It relies too much on player creativity and not its own creativity
@Herbri Exactly, and it's crazy people complain about it only releasing packs for the money yet the continue to buy packs knowing that. But at the same time want tsm4 to compensate for them SPENDING their OWN money on a game they knew was corrupt from the start
The Sims franchise, if EA continues to move toward the path they are, is going to die. It is not on the consume to be grateful or to be appreciative of what they have. EA believes that consumers will continue to consume Sims over the competition, and because of that mentality they will continue to push for more money for fewer things, going so far as to go "free to enter" and lock basic gameplay behind multiple paywalls. They have already done this to some degree with the Sims 4. Consumers like you who adopt the "we should support it regardless" mentality are adding to the problem. This is a continuous pattern across all consumer-based media but especially with video games. The Sims is in it's sunset. Other viable competition for the life sim title is coming, and the only reason EA's model has worked thus far is because they have had no competition. They have doomed themselves with their thinking that they are too big to fail.
I really dislike the graphics in life by you and paralive is still far away I am not sure about inzoi. But I will give all of them a try since I love life sims but am sickkkkkk of sims frfr
A war between fandoms will be inevitable. Lowkey, I know the "loyalist" as you call them will salty and attempt to get old players back and I will be here to witness it because they were the one being toxic positive, condescending etc.
Some of the "loyalists" are also paid EA shills who are just in the community to gaslight everyone into viewing EA favorably while also slandering rival games. This is why it is so important to support Life By You and Paralives. They are going against a HUGE corporation that has the power to twist the narrative in their favor.
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Sims 4 is only still getting players because of the modding community. If the modders stopped then people wouldn’t touch sims 4 and only play sims 3 or sims 2 and maybe sims 1 if they can
I think there’s a big chunk of vanilla players out there but yeah if the modding community left the game, that’s when we’ll start to see the sims 4 struggle in popularity
Literally any other Sims game > The Sims 4. I've even been playing The Sims Medieval over The Sims 4.
So true; many players are only still playing it because of modders and CC creators.
This is precisely why Life By You have recently said that they will give modders free reign to make whatever mods they want and sell them. It's a really smart move. EA could lose a LOT of their modders. This could potentially attract a LOT of modders to switch to LBY, but only if LBY fixes the problems with their character models.
@@fransmith3255 But paid mods will put off a lot of players, so I don't see that being an attraction at all, rather a detractor for players.
I feel like the moment Life By You and Paralives got announced and felt real (not a scam, like many "life sims, sims competitors" that got announced over the years but never came out), I lost all interest in The Sims 4. I'm thrilled there's finally alternatives!
Exactly the same for me. I barely touch the game anymore. It's odd... I don't have many lasting memories of the game. Only a few funny moments but that's it. Meanwhile I can still remember the vampire/witch/werewolf/fairy roommate household from the Sims 3, from many many years ago, with an immense sense of nostalgia and clarity.
How does The Sims 3 community fit into this? there are fans like me who only really play The Sims 3 and not play with the newer games
There are people who also never left Sims 2 and have never wanted to. 😅 And honestly people who play all of them.
I feel like players who have gone back to the sims 3 and 2 are part of a peaceful nostalgic corner of life simulation that appreciates what we had at the time. The sims 3 is my main sims game and I’m dying to get back into the sims 2. I think those games will always have that special group that enjoy the older versions of the sims.
I feel like it's the sims 3 players who glorified the sims 3 meanwhile if I create a dog my game crashes.the open world is great but the life gameplay sucks,you can't even talk and eat.besides the world,im a sims 4 and 2.
@@holy9781 I'm sorry that you couldn't enjoy the sims 3 experience, sims 3 has trouble on newer laptops/pcs, actually most old games do. On another note sims 3 sims can talk while eating just only with sims sitting at another table close enough or at the same table. Also most of us are casual players, we don't glorify the game we just play it.
@@holy9781 Sims 3 was unoptimized even for its time I had the game crash once but only once
If you are on an older laptop its going to be much much harder because the game didn't run well when it came out
Another big thing to note is mods Narss I think the name was makes a lot of performance and optimization mods for the Sims 3 and unfortunately you need these performance and optimization mods for a good experience
People having the mentality to tell others to be grateful to a large corporation is crazy, especially when the criticism is valid. Having war seems even crazier. I don’t doubt it would happen, but like go outside. There’s a lot better things someone can do with their time. Expending that much energy to fight with people online isn’t worth it.
I can’t wait for the new games. They all look so cool and fun. I can’t tell you the last time I thought anything the Sims 4 put out was fun. We all should’ve stopped buying Sims stuff years ago. I think it’s the competition coming out that led to the most recent boycott. There’s really nothing the Sims can do about it either. Whatever cools ideas they come out with to keep us hooked won’t work, because of the limitations of the engine they made the game with. They’d literally have to break it down and rebuild it to make 100% functional, and that’s just not going to happen. Their best bet is to finally let the Sims 4 die, no new dlc, nothing, and move on to the Sims 5. They’re years over due for another part of the franchise that’s not a spin-off. If they can make that game 10x better than any game in the franchise, then they won’t have anything to worry about with competition. We can all be happy with that and the new games.
I never understood the mentality of “being grateful” for a something you buy…
Yess I’m so excited to play something new. Even if I still had fun with the sims 4, which same that hasn’t been the case for a long while, the fatigue of playing with same games for so long is real. It’s past the time for more options.
i totally agree with you but i do want to throw out there that ea/maxis is planning to run sims 4's corpse alongside sims 5. 😶
Sims: hey guys look at all these cool games that were inspired by us, isnt that so cool?
the awful people: SIMS FOREVER, SCREW THOSE GAMES
I am looking forward to be getting to play LBU. I would LOVE to TRY a NEW game aside of thevSims 4. The Sims 4 is sooo broken to that is almost to the point of impossible to even PLAY the Sims 4 anymore. And EA/THE SIMS TEAM sure does NOT seem in hurry to FIX the broken game. That said I still enjoy playing Sims 3. At leaste it has Cars and other good things about it plus the NOT to bad for game play yes it COULD be BETTER but its ok to play still. Again I can't wait to play LBU anx one day Enzoi hopefully. Not sure how I feel about para lives though it looks like it MAY be a good game from what videos i have seen of it. I JUST FEEL Its NOT my something I would allways want to play. It does NOT seem to hold my interest either. NOT like LBU seems too. N the paradox team is doing some great stuff with LBU. So yeah. I can NOT wait for early access. June 4th! 🤩👍 btw ty for this post. 👍✌
The “ungrateful” argument is so backwards to me because EA is not giving you this product out of the kindness of their heart. They want your money. Too many people get so wrapped up in defending their fave that they forget that. The Sims 4 has been such a major disappointment compared to its predecessors, and I have zero hope for The Sims 5.
Lul yea
I play dozens of games. I'm a consumer, and this is my entertainment product I'm buying. Why the heck should I be "grateful" and "loyal" to a specific company from which i only bought a single product? Should i be grateful and loyal to all products I ever bought? I literally cannot understand that argument.
Imagine telling people to be grateful to one of the most hated companies of all time, do they live under a rock?
The only reason Sims 4 is still relevant is because EA is using the Sim’s “game changers” to prop and hype it up to younger and newer players, and let's not forget about the “critical Sims reviewers” who still buy the DLC and pretty much give it a free promo.
I’ve been an avid supporter since the original Sims. Have the entire collection, with the exception of Sims 4. The sims at one point was a very beloved franchise to me. I’m the reason my siblings started playing it, and then later on in my life, I introduced it to my nieces.
Sims 4 has been such a big disappointment. I remember when I first purchased Sims 4 on release and doing something I had never done with any previous version, which was uninstalling and not touching the game for an entire year. At one point, I returned and hoped and really believed that it would improve, but it never did.
I’ve since been actively boycotting with my wallet. It was fun while it lasted, but I never thought my love for the Sims would end like this. All good things will come to an end, I suppose. I appreciate your input provided in this video, it really validates what a lot of us have been feeling.
Validation is so needed. On the surface, the sims 4 is made to look like it has only a few problems but in reality there’s a big issue with the game that makes long time players like us unfortunately have to step away.
Game Changers have so much power it’s honestly scary. But I get it why they do what they do. I’m just hoping for the ones who have been unhappy with the game for so long finally get that spark back with these new games coming soon.
Hey my love for the Sims is still there. Just the real ones. Not TS4.
I started playing the franchise with Sims 3. I loved the open world, the festivals, cars, etc. I got Sims 4 upon release and fully expected it to improve on the previous game, but was stunned at how terrible it was.
I uninstalled it after a week and completely stopped playing Sims for years until I started up again during the p@ndemic. At this point, I can’t wait for alternative simulation games like LBY and Paralives.
EA doesnt give a rats ass about the franchise, look at what they did to Simcity the moment another competitor offered a better game 😂
What did they do
@@coolsomeash dumped it
Well. Sims is a much bigger brand than Sims City ever was. I don't think you can compare that.
@@benn87 so are their sports games, and where do you think they want to inject their screen ads into next 😂. They do not care enough to save the sims.
@@dibel3669 From a financial point of view, the Sims does not need to be saved. Whether you want to admit it to yourself or not. The Sims is a huge cash cow for EA. The new games from the competition won't change that situation.
Joker once said " these so called civilized people...they'll eat each other"
The one that will be the best is, the one that have MOST options and added feature without a lot of mods needed but still allow mods to be implemented to the game. So what is it? Well for me it would be SIMS 2 lore and story progressions and SIMS 3 open worldness then Mix with the upgrades of sims 4 house decorations and house buildings. I wish and pray for this in paralives and hope that they also allow the community to mod the game.
Options aren’t always good. Sometimes we think systems need to be more complex than they are and results can be regrettable. On the other hand, you don’t wanna choke players with over-simplicity either. There’s a balance to be found in the middle. In reality, not everyone likes the same things. And I don’t think there has to be a “best” game there will just be games hopefully with thriving communities around them for all our separate and diverse reasons of what we like to play.
As someone who’s in favor of the more options the better, I think I might get overwhelmed if a game tried to pack so much into one experience. Balance is definitely the key here. The games that requires the least amount of mods to enjoy will definitely be my favorite as well
thats why im going to college gaming artist and digital artist and learn fix bug and lag this year to save the sims bcause im a simmer for longtime, i love the sims and play everyday for years and its my childhood dream to know how to make games
I wish you the best with your journey
So many prayers for you to get in man! Make it better!
Tsm4 community gets mad at EA for making packs only for the money but at the same spend their money on packs. But also somehow want compensation when they CHOSE to spend their money on a game they already knew was corrupt. Thats one of the things I hate about tsm4 community
You can hate them for being addicted, but it's not fair. The Sims is currently the only one in that genre. There is/was no comparable competition. Once there is one competitor, the Sims "fans" will drop EA like a hot brick.
I really agree with you, it doesn't have to be a war we can like different elements of all the games. It's be like saying red dead players can't enjoy the last of us because they're both action adventure. I really hope that the diversity of choice in the genre actually mellows the drama put because people can just be happy in their new communities and not have the conflict of so many different types of life sim players being given the one game and having to be in that together.
Life by You is the one. June 4th we will all be playing 🥰
nah it's paradox, I don't trust paradox at all. Especially given their recent track record. And honestly life by you doesn't appeal to me at all.
@@keit99sorry for you but I’m ready!!!
@@angelacooper8973 good fun with a hopefully great game then.
@@keit99The only game I'm interested in is Paralives. Lby and Inzoi don't appear to me either
@@coolsomeash paralives sounds like the most interesting of the bunch to me as well.
They should re-release Sims 1 and 2 for modern computers
sims 3 needs to be included in this too. it's "easier" to run than 1 and 2 but it's still an unoptimized mess that would benefit from re-release touch-ups
And consoles
They sadly won't do that because I'm pretty sure they have to give Will Wright royalties and the corpos on top don't want to do that :/
I never regret pirating sims 4. With all the packs I downloaded it is still UNPLAYABLE. Bad game
Also I'd like to add a quick note: If you join any of the sims 4 community and say a slightly inconvenient thing about ts4 they remove you without any warning
Honestly, the EA have already shown how threatened they are. Several things were implemented after other life sims showed them off for their own game plans. Eg, sims 4 platforms and curved walls, sims 5 bed extension tool, bunk beds…)
The Switchers, The Loyalists (most are EA partners) and The Newbies category is a great analysis on how divided the sims 4 community is. Most of them loyalists I have beef with due to their toxic intakes on TWITTER (which I recently got onto and I regret it somewhat) because they don't play any other genre of games, so I take their opinions with a grain of salt when they do critiques on other games mostly in the simulation genre. But all in all the gaming community (no matter the game title) and game industry seem toxic to me.
i kinda blame the players bc they’re doing the same thing with TS4 they did with TS3, they were tired of TS3 and wanted EA to make a new game, when EA released "into the future" it flopped so hard they knew they had to release TS4 very soon if they wanted to keep sales up, they rushed and released something that wasn’t even fully finished and had to change direction (coming from a game who was supposed to be online to make it a single player game and led to what we know today : full of bugs and less features overall.)
I also blame the players because even though they complain over and over (and if we’re being honest they complained since the release of the base game) they keep the game alive by buying more and more. Players have the power to keep that game alive or make it dead. If we’re being honest without players’ money EA cannot do shit. They don’t wanna listen to y’all complaints about their game being literally unplayable ? Fine, DON’T buy more then.
EA is a company like another, they don’t care what we think about their games until it impacts the sales. They’ll act like a "friendly company creating new things for people who support them", like every business do, the truth is they don’t care about what we say until they lose money and it shows. If you don’t believe me or think i’m exaggerating, EA is known for only thinking about bills, video games players know that when EA buy a franchise from another company, they’ll add micro transactions and make them games unplayable because of that.
I think the same thing that happened to TS3 is gonna happen with TS4, they TRY to avoid it by releasing more packs and for the moment it’s working. But slowly it’ll die which is most likely already happening ig? and this time the situation is even worse because sims players aren’t "waiting for a new EA game", they’re waiting for the "new life simulator game".
I am glad that new sims-like games is going to be out anytime soon. If any, the sims needs to become better if they want to keep the franchise alive (and I hope neither of these news game developers accept any EA partnership, they destroy everything they touch).
Wow, I love your editing in this video, felt like a documentary and I do hope we see less of The Sims. I'm just so disappointed, and I really used to love their games. My hopes are with Paralives, Inzoi and LBY.
My guess is that EA will try very hard to appeal to the public but when a new good game come out, we'll see less people engaging with TS4 and even TS5.
The Sims 5 can end in Cities Skylines 2 disaster. People used to use DLCs, and if a new clean game comes out, people would say "But the previous game was better!". It would be very hard to code the whole game with all the DLCs from scratch and update it with even more DLCs later.
And yes, I see that games are harder and harder to pirate and what is the best way to make a game unpiratable? Make it free! And pay2win its contents.
This is such a well edited video
If EA is not heeding any signs that all the other life sim games are trying to take a piece of the pie. The Sims 4 and Project Rene will be doomed. However, I personally don't think any of the games are capable to "take down" the Sims, but they are well capable to chip any the monopoly that has been held for over 2 decades.
Interesting analysis of the groups of Sims players, it is a broad distinction but a good analysis nonetheless.
The inzo avatars feel void of personality
that would be because they're 3D scans, just like everything else in the game. there's no life or personality in inzoi because everything was generated by machines with little to no human touch
Also doesn't help that they rely too much on AI for gameplay
yeah. it’s so dystopian and uncanny like. paralives has a much more genuine touch imo
@@canariawingwait I thought they did motion caption 👀 for the animations
@@lavonosathey did. Idk what these people are talking about smh 😂
With Paralives giving free expansion packs with their game it's not looking good for The Sims
Mods keeping sims goin give inzoi life by you para lives time to catch up sims will have competition
I dont even "play" sims 4 i just make cc and pretty builds and sims recreating things i like to take nice arty pictures.... i actually play sims 2 and 3 as a game more
Im not saying i hate the sims 4 either but i do get disappointed sometimes when it doesnt behave like i want it to especially not being able to edit worlds
ngl , i feel like inzoi will not actually come out. it just feels like one those games with a lot of promises and interesting aesthetics... but it's probably too good to be true. i just think that it''l just keep getting delayed or the devs will ghost. kind of like dokev
That makes no sense considering the money they put into sending people PCs to play test, all the new info about features added to the game after the play test and listening to their discord community about what features they want added. They listened and added stuff. And even publicly opened up the server to get more people to give in their input. They aren’t wasting their time and money like that.
I can’t be the only one that finds the newer life sims kind of creepy and uncanny. Lol especially Inzoi. It taps the part of my brain that fears things like that.
Fully aware that this video was created before the cancellation of Life by You. Please take my comment with a grain of salt. I have been playing the Sims since Sims 1. When I complain about something in Sims 4, I am speaking from experience with this company and this franchise so when people tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, I just shrug it off because they don't know who they're talking to. The Sims need competition. They are monopolizing this genre of gameplay, and it is time that changes. Why they're so sloppy and why they don't fix things in an orderly fashion it's because they know they monopolize this genre of gameplay and are cocky to believe that they have no competitors. Enter InZoi which I believe will offer EA some serious competition. Completed, I believe Paralives will offer them some true competition. There is a war within the simpson community because of the fact there are currently no other games to offer competition. Once that occurs, you will see the community calm down and change pace.
EA man... At this point we should be into the sims 6's life span.
But they insist on sticking with this mess.
Once all these competitors come out, EA will probably ask themselves if its worth it to spend the money in the race. Does the person leading the race need to think about the people behind him?
I play Dragon Age by EA/Bioware and their response to Baldur's Gate 3 (their biggest competition in years) was to fire more of Bioware's team when Dragon Age 4 is supposed to be out anytime now...EA games do not have pretty deaths...
if the sims stopped performing then ea would just drop the game like simscity they dont care about their games
The Sims Devs focus waaay tooo much on woke stuff... then fixing the game or make it better and fun to play. I don't think they can fix bugs or know how to make you drive a car etc. They just focus on gay looking clothing and try milk it like crazy....
They will have a major problem if Inzoi comes out great and don't F it up with somthing very stupid.
Can't wait for it to fail. They need a slap in the face to become great again!
in lifesims games very inportant a good balance between "realistic" and "not realistic".
life by you and paralives, I think, are too much realistic. i dont want to play this games.
I'm sure the sims is going to continue... the new games ? Probably for a time. They have tried for for so many years without success.
Every one of those games is lacking.
Inzoi is too photorealistic, LBY runs on realtime, making progress REAL slow (you can timeskip, but what's the fun in that!?) Paralives is overhyped and IMO built top-down rather than bottom up, Sims5 will be just the same as Sims4, and about Vivaland, that's the first time I've heard about it...
ok
i'm confused by what you mean by "LBY runs on realtime". time moves in the same way that the sims does, aka one second irl = one minute in-game. "realtime" would be how time moves in animal crossing, aka syncing to the real world clock. if that's what you mean, i'm not sure where you got that idea, but that's not what LBY is doing 😅
@@canariawing You know how in the Sims your character goes from birth to death in 90 days, but in real life it takes 7300 days just to reach adulthood!?
Well, then it was confirmed that in LBY it will also take 7300 days to reach adulthood...
What do you mean by built top down instead of bottom up?
@@coolsomeash That they've shown us gameplay elements in trailers when they haven't implemented them in coding, for example...
It will absolutely not take just as many years for the sims to die off. May I remind you of how EA messed up so bad with SimCity 5 that it was singlehandedly outperformed and replaced by Cities Skylines within one release, even though SimCity has been a thing since 1989 (way longer than the Sims). EA has not released a mainline SimCity game ever since that happened. They made an (unsuccessful) mobile game and an (unsuccessful) facebook game that was taken down after less than a year, and the franchise has basically died. All it takes is for a competitor to release a game that is *significantly* better than the Sims and that's it. The gaming industry is fast-paced and very competitive. And I think neither EA, nor many fans of the Sims have really understood that yet. EA is currently repeating the same mistakes they made with SimCity (bugs not being fixed, too much frankly low-quality paid DLC, pushing for online integration and possibly multiplayer despite players' wishes to remain offline singleplayer). I would absolutely not be surprised if they get their butts handed to them a second time, since they refuse to learn.
EA quit and EA didn’t try. They literally shut down the branch of Maxis that worked on SimCity and that had zero to do with City Skylines. It would be sad if they did that with sims franchise but I don’t think it will. SimCity 2013 and Sims 4 are not equal cases. SimCity 2013 crashed and burned immediately due the later revoked always online requirement that made the launch a catastrope. And honestly, its not a bad game now that that always online requirement doesn’t exist. There are also people who still play and still find some things about it more charming than City Skylines. But at the end of the day, City Skylines did not fight and win against EA, in fact Paradox was too afraid to go against EA when Collossal Order devs first proposed a city builders. City Skylines was only greenlit because SimCity had ALREADY failed and so there was an abandoned spot just ripe for a game.
Also, SimCity 2013 itself did not build a thriving game community around it the same as Sims 4 for a decade, this includes modders. My modded version of my Sims 4 game I do plan to very much keep playing even when I have Paralives and maybe LBY (we’ll see what happens with InZoi…fence sitting until public release). Much like Sims 2 and 3, despite its problems Sims 4 will have people that still love it, still stick with it, and still find it better than the alternatives. And some of it might just be familiarity as Paralives, InZoi, LBY (maybe Vivaland and who knows what else) will have there little ways of not being the Sims. Which will be comforting to some and send others back to the comfort of the thing they know.
@@TheDawnofVanlife But that's exactly my point: Fans going back to older sims games isn't making EA any money. They will need to put in work for people to migrate over to Sims 5 whenever that comes out.
The problem they have now is that *if* Sims 5 fails and there are competitors who might do better, that could actually lead to EA just throwing in the towel like they did with Sim City. And that's where I see them making the same mistakes as they did before with the online requirement, etc.
I don't know that the competitors need to be better, even. Just good enough that EA no longer feel like they have a monopoly. Would they put in the same effort for two thirds the sales? Would that make sense for their budget? Even if the three main competitors nab only 10% each of the market share, EA might find that their money is better spent elsewhere. They certainly won't spend MORE money to get the SAME income. They are pinching pennies as it is.
ea is just a money hungry company, so many of their games not just the sims, but especially their sports games. like you said, all it takes is one good ass game, a COMPLETED game, to come out with the right mechanics, gameplay, and lack of bugs, and people will move. ea is slowly dying because of greed.
@@evest7829 Sims 3 is still making them money, they still sell it along with several older Maxis titles (not sims 2, but they still sell SimCity 4 for example). They just don't update it or push it anymore and they certainly couldn't sustain current day EA on it. But currently its costing them no money to keep it on the storefront and they make a little from it being there. And I am sure that will be the case for Sims 4 after Renee is launched as Sims 5 or Sims-whatever-it-ends-up-being.
I remember playing the sims 3 on its release. Base game of sims 3 captivated me for months. Then the sims 4 came out and I was bored on the 1st day of playing it. And I know that sims 4 changed since its release, but DANG! While they were “updating” sims 4, I managed to finish uni, get married and have kids. I’m not going to wait until my retirement to see an “updated the sims 5”. People don’t live that long
I will never play The Sims 5 and won't continue playing The Sims 4 even though I'd like to, just because of their unsafe Software. Origin was so unsafe, it was always getting hacked, even Minutes after Support fixed it. I was hoping I can play it on Steam, but no I can't. Because you need to launch that for it too and I won't endanger my Steam Account because of that. Guess it's back to The Sims 1
The only thing that matters to EA is how much money the Sims can bring in, otherwise it’s dead to the company, just like Mirror’s Edge. That alone gives me hope the series can improve, but we saw EA willing to risk it all with their release of SimCity.
Ultimately, the quality of the game in terms of reviews and opinions of players matters little to the company so long as it sells. In 2004, when the Sims 2 came out, reviews DID matter more because it better translated to sales. There were no streamers to draw attention to your product to get more people buying it.
i stopped buying years ago. No kits for me, no wedding pack. They sell things you need mods for to work. Too buggy.
Paralives is what I'll be playing while continuing to enjoy Sims 1 and Sims 2.
Your videos omg! Such great editing and so detailed 💚The possessed Strangerville townie was a jumpscare 😅I never understood the "be grateful" statements, especially in a consumer context!
Thank youuu 💜 Knowing you enjoyed the editing makes what went into making this one so worth it. The strangerville townie still gets me and I put her there 😂 Right! How am I suppose to be grateful for something I bought? Makes no sense to me…
I am loyal to the Sims 3. I'm not loyal to EA or the Sims franchise. For me, I will definitely play all the new sims games. If I like them, I'll play less of the Sims 3.. If I don't like them, I'll keep playing the Sims 3. Pretty easy to me 😂😂 I do enjoy all the drama though!! I keep up with all Sims news probably like a sports fan keeps up with sports 😂😂
I think the people that get overly defensive of sims 4, and specially of EA, just don't like to exercise their critical thinking. I have over a thousand hours of gameplay in Sims 4, all original (bc I need mod support and already spent money on DLCs years ago), and don't actually want to switch to Sims 3 (mainly bc I've grown accostumed to the few new features of Sims 4), but I'm the first person to tell EA to f*ck off. I wouldn't be caught dead defending a company as shady and greedy as EA, much less their current behavior of sucking dry every good thing about a game franchise. If I'm giving them money you BET I'll criticize them when they don't deliver. People need to realize that their tastes are NOT the same thing as the soulless companies that make the stuff they love, and to worship a corporation is to set yourself up to failure, because those companies and the people who run them and profitt off of them literally don't care about anything other than money. That should be obvious for EA fans, seeing how easy they turned around Will Wright's critique of consumerism of the original Sims game into precisely an altar to it in only a few years.
I still can enjoy Sims 4, with my 12gb of mods overhauling the lackluster DLC features, but as soon as the final game patch comes out, I'm updating my mods one last time and pirating the hell out of it, and staying there. I don't even want to touch Sims 5, because it all just looks like it's gonna be a facebook-style MMO and I've already had my fun playing those in 2015 as a kid, but now I can only give my time, energy and money to pay-once games that don't try to suck you dry.
My thoughts are that people are seeking nostalgia in this current time. We are quickly becoming annoyed by cash grabbing elite companies profiting and offering lackluster products. The soul has left the Sims along with all the bugs, it’s just not worth the money. It’s tiring to watch EA further release packs that should have been in the original game. Way back when the sims first came out I remember it would give you a certain feeling when playing it, along with the sims 2. Somewhere down the line EA sold out like the rest of these big companies. We are in the era of watching these companies collapse to make room for new and refreshing ideas built off pure creativity and love.
The only reason for the popularity of TS4 right now is because it is the only one available. We are getting not one or two but three life simulation games. I stopped playing Sims games. I'm done with them. The way they want to sell kit after kit without properly fixing the game made me stop playing. I will not support a Sim game from this Maxis team again. I will buy all the other three games once they are out. If they turned out well, then it's awesome. If they didn't, I'm not going back to the sims. I'm truly done with this toxic relationship.
It’s four!
-Paralives
-Inzoi
-vivaland
-life by you
There’s also some smaller ones out that are VERY indie, like one dev. Live The Life is one but it’s supposedly very buggy (despite common belief, the dev is still actively updating and planning the roadmap for the game). another is denizen, these are both very early access tho.
There's also Tiny Lives! Its a cute pixel art indie sims game and i really like it
Maxis is not at fault for this! They love this franchise. It's EA that bought them and fired everyone with any history of working on the Sims, and then EA ditched most of the software testers.
@Frenchaboo Maxis and EA both are one now. This argument that the gurus are innocent has become too old. They are all at fault. When asked about the Star Wars pack who said she was the responsible of giving the green light for that awful pack? Do we need to name her? They are all at fault. Don't let them fool you with their "good cop, bad cop" trick. They are not your friends. All they want is your whole wallet.
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Great content, superb editing and I'm impressed that you listed your references at the end of the video. Classy!
I'll probably continue to play Sims 3. I love me my supernaturals and it doesn't look like the new ones will have them. Though, who knows, maybe one of them will add them later? Regardless, I still plan on at least checking out the new games, even if I don't end up playing them long term.
Yes, some of us still talk about Alter Life. And we're shipping it with People of Newberry and other life sims scams that were around at that time. It also saddens me that these types of videos don't at least have an honorable mention to Little Sim World and Tiny Life as well. They have a completely different style of graphics (LSW is vectors and TL is pixel art) but they are also new life simulation games from indie studios. There's more to life sims than "Who will kill of The Sims?" 😋
All i want is more realistic and in depth sims relationships. The game that brings that to the table will get my money
Such an excellent video. Loved your editing! Thanks for sharing.
2 months after this and now ea is facing a lawsuit... they needa stand up
If simcity is anything to go by, and there is a competitor that does what City Skylines did. I do believe that EA share in the life sim genre will shrink a good size. Plus there will be multiple life sim games. Sims won't be the main life sim game anymore, once each of these games fully release. It's going to slowly die. There's won't be a reason for them to invest more time and money in the game, when they can just pay more attention to their other games that gross more money than the sims. Madden and FIFA. The sims community may think sims is a huge game in EA portfolio. But it really isn't, especially compared to Madden or FIFA.
sadly will there be any supernatrual stuff in the future
Honestly i dont really play the sims 4 much anymore. I usually only play it to build, I used to play it to make sims too but I honestly got over it. It's tiring spending hours making a sim and then to get into the game make a great ass house (bc thats all I really do is build) start up the world for 10 mins and quit bc its so laggy or my sim just stands there for 4 hours trying to do one task.
I used to "like" the sims 4 I have many hours in it but at the same time its just so boring. Yeah ik im the one that's supposed to make the game fun, but how can I do that when my game lags out and I feel so distraught bc I forgot to save, then I dont touch the game for months.
I used to like the sims 4 but I started realizing that the only reason why I continued buying this overpriced content was to bring joy and fun into the game. But when I download it and it goes into my game i see oh another laggy feature. Like I really was excited for apartments. (Y? Bc I like building) and the only reason I bought for rent was bc I could build apartments, but isnt that sad. Not playing the game for the simulation like i wish to do but instead im spending hundreds just to put "more" furniture and wallpapers in the game.
Like lets honestly think about this really quickly, the game all together, although its free the game expansions cost almost 1k all together. If the base game feels empty and the only way for u to make ur game better is to buy the extensions then why make ur game free to begin with. You can buy kits but what game play does that really add, you can buy expansion packs but all that really implements into ur game is a $50 unfinished game feature.
Like lets be honest, the sims 4 having a "flop" area acouple years ago had them releasing small worlds, houses without toilets, and unnecessary features all for the (low) price of 49.99 and people ask why we mad. You charging a full price game for an extension. How does that make sense to the regular consumer.
Yes, tsm4 is boring because you have to do all the thinking and come up with scenarios. I wish tsm4 provided us with scenarios and more dramatic emotions to things that happen, for example, cheating. It's so boring, and the traits don't even seem like traits, just moods your sim temporary gets. It relies too much on player creativity and not its own creativity
@Herbri Exactly, and it's crazy people complain about it only releasing packs for the money yet the continue to buy packs knowing that. But at the same time want tsm4 to compensate for them SPENDING their OWN money on a game they knew was corrupt from the start
The Sims franchise, if EA continues to move toward the path they are, is going to die. It is not on the consume to be grateful or to be appreciative of what they have.
EA believes that consumers will continue to consume Sims over the competition, and because of that mentality they will continue to push for more money for fewer things, going so far as to go "free to enter" and lock basic gameplay behind multiple paywalls. They have already done this to some degree with the Sims 4. Consumers like you who adopt the "we should support it regardless" mentality are adding to the problem.
This is a continuous pattern across all consumer-based media but especially with video games. The Sims is in it's sunset. Other viable competition for the life sim title is coming, and the only reason EA's model has worked thus far is because they have had no competition. They have doomed themselves with their thinking that they are too big to fail.
I really dislike the graphics in life by you and paralive is still far away I am not sure about inzoi. But I will give all of them a try since I love life sims but am sickkkkkk of sims frfr
A war between fandoms will be inevitable. Lowkey, I know the "loyalist" as you call them will salty and attempt to get old players back and I will be here to witness it because they were the one being toxic positive, condescending etc.
Some of the "loyalists" are also paid EA shills who are just in the community to gaslight everyone into viewing EA favorably while also slandering rival games. This is why it is so important to support Life By You and Paralives. They are going against a HUGE corporation that has the power to twist the narrative in their favor.
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