No one was hurt other than a couple million in damages to the ships One was a container ship and I believe the other was dry cargo. There was no oil spill
Ok, that is a problem area HSC, NTSB, USCG, COE. Cut that bend out, move the barge lane out add some buoys/lights. The ENC (S-57) can help here, just do it!
It's quite clear that the actions of the towboat Mr. Earl contribute to some degree in the accident. You can clearly see that it made a hard turn into the direction of the Elka Apollon at 2:44 The Captain of the Mr. Earl all but acknowledged the dangerously close proximity of the vessels at 3:22 And yet the NTSB didn't take into the consideration the actions of the Mr. Earl at all and instead completely blamed the incident on the pilot of the Elka Apollon claiming that he failed to appropriately respond to changes in bank effect forces which is weird because THERE IS NO BANK in the Bayport Flare. 🤷♂ Yes he overcompensated but he did so out of concern of hitting the Mr. Earl's barge and not because of misunderstanding bank effect forces.
The directions aren't actually reversed. The steering responsiveness is just that bad on ships this big. It handles like a semi-truck in full reverse speeding through a drift track.
I would like to comment on the direction that the Elka Apollon was taking when the rudder display was showing the opposite. The narrator and display state that the pilot was moving to Starboard , but the ship was moving to port. I think that the narrator was NOT positioning himself aboard the ship, he was looking at the direction the ship was taking on the screen. Thinking that if the ship was moving to HIS right, it was moving to starboard. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS MOVING TO PORT.
Just because the rudder is turned one direction doesn't mean the ship is going to turn that direction, hence, the order to full power to empower the rudder to try and get the ship to turn starboard. The ship was turning to port despite the rudder turned to starboard. They even dropped the starboard anchor in a last ditch effort to turn the ship away from the container ship. I don't see the narrator making a mistake here.
the back of the ship was moving the opposite direction from the rudder input. That's where the pilot went wrong, he should have turned towards the bank and that would have moved the back of the ship away from the tow boat. Instead he turned towards the opposite side where the container ship was. Inexperienced for sure.
Word on the pilot union boards is the small barge that magically disappeared went full ahead and was trying to overtake the tanker at 6 knots. His displacement made the tanker turn harder into the path of the oncoming boat than he expected... that barge should not have been there.. the displacement from the larger ships couldve pushed the tanker onto him or worse. Shouldve eased off waited for the pass... i put the blame on the tanker pilot, 22 at the time btw.. and the barge captain...
@@DominicciSkycam Which barge? Seemed like the tanker was being navigated like a speeding car instead of gradual corrections and notifying Mr. Earl first, then the other two tugs.
It's like the nautical equivalent to dodging a deer into oncoming traffic.
FALCO64125 Hilarious
No one was hurt other than a couple million in damages to the ships
One was a container ship and I believe the other was dry cargo. There was no oil spill
David Trulove qgggghb
they were all insured anyway
Hydrodynamic interaction is something to be reckoned with in narrow waterways...
Ok, that is a problem area HSC, NTSB, USCG, COE. Cut that bend out, move the barge lane out add some buoys/lights. The ENC (S-57) can help here, just do it!
It's quite clear that the actions of the towboat Mr. Earl contribute to some degree in the accident. You can clearly see that it made a hard turn into the direction of the Elka Apollon at 2:44 The Captain of the Mr. Earl all but acknowledged the dangerously close proximity of the vessels at 3:22 And yet the NTSB didn't take into the consideration the actions of the Mr. Earl at all and instead completely blamed the incident on the pilot of the Elka Apollon claiming that he failed to appropriately respond to changes in bank effect forces which is weird because THERE IS NO BANK in the Bayport Flare. 🤷♂
Yes he overcompensated but he did so out of concern of hitting the Mr. Earl's barge and not because of misunderstanding bank effect forces.
Did this cause significant oil spill and much environmental damage in the Gulf area?
Was this fatal?
Only to a pilots career.
@@moncorp1 OH snap 🤣
All ahead full. Hard to port and starboard rudders. Doesn't sound like a lot of finesse was being used.
Без коментариев Был на msc NEderland в момент аварии зрелище не приятное .
Full speed never does anything good. Should gone straight rudder and let the barge dodge.
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The directions aren't actually reversed. The steering responsiveness is just that bad on ships this big. It handles like a semi-truck in full reverse speeding through a drift track.
I would like to comment on the direction that the Elka Apollon was taking when the rudder display was showing the opposite. The narrator and display state that the pilot was moving to Starboard , but the ship was moving to port. I think that the narrator was NOT positioning himself aboard the ship, he was looking at the direction the ship was taking on the screen. Thinking that if the ship was moving to HIS right, it was moving to starboard. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS MOVING TO PORT.
Just because the rudder is turned one direction doesn't mean the ship is going to turn that direction, hence, the order to full power to empower the rudder to try and get the ship to turn starboard. The ship was turning to port despite the rudder turned to starboard. They even dropped the starboard anchor in a last ditch effort to turn the ship away from the container ship. I don't see the narrator making a mistake here.
the back of the ship was moving the opposite direction from the rudder input. That's where the pilot went wrong, he should have turned towards the bank and that would have moved the back of the ship away from the tow boat. Instead he turned towards the opposite side where the container ship was. Inexperienced for sure.
Word on the pilot union boards is the small barge that magically disappeared went full ahead and was trying to overtake the tanker at 6 knots. His displacement made the tanker turn harder into the path of the oncoming boat than he expected... that barge should not have been there.. the displacement from the larger ships couldve pushed the tanker onto him or worse. Shouldve eased off waited for the pass... i put the blame on the tanker pilot, 22 at the time btw.. and the barge captain...
@@DominicciSkycam Which barge? Seemed like the tanker was being navigated like a speeding car instead of gradual corrections and notifying Mr. Earl first, then the other two tugs.