The original rectifier AmpKnob sounds so good, I don't even bother using my real rectifier or AxeFx3 to record. It's EQ'd so nice. And it's so easy. I'm buying this bundle today.
This is my biggest dissapointment in all of my plugin history. I have paid my hard earnt money for rubbish. I always try and test out diffrent plugins see how they go. Support the creators. But i will def be hesatant in the future to pay for another borgen product. I have there kemper profiles and they were great. But honestly dont waste your time on this. Seriously its terrible.
@@RiffsAndBeards yeh look i use otto audio eleven neural dsp gojira nolly ampbox these all set a very very high standard in bone crushing gain and seem to replicate amps really well. I just found the Bhd bundle lacking in the gain department. Using apple mac apollo twin duo and yamaha hs8s so the set up is there. As i was sYing Borgden have absolutely great kemper profiles but yeh was not impressed with these plugins. These things will happen. Sometimes i will try adjusting some parameters on my interface. See if that helps.
How many different companies are gonna release the same amp sims over and over again? They all sound basically the same. People are chasing a perfect tone that flat out doesn't exist.
I think the main goal with this one is achieving a certain flavor of sound in just the turn of a single knob. It’s a solid idea. Multiple amps using this concept was a no brainer once I saw the first one release.
They sound far from the same. The thing is to make them as real as possible. Only this year they start to compete with hardware like the Kemper. Tonex is a good example. You don't need a Quartex or Kemper to get a real life sounding tone
I love AmpKnob - RevC and was really excited when these new BDH options came out, but man, what a let down. I wasn't even positive they sound different at all until I did a null test. Switching from the 5169 to the 6606 to the III altered the sound as much -- or less than -- simply changing mic position in a cab sim. I do dig the new features, though, and hope the RevC gets them in an update soon.
Updates to RevC are coming. We’re a bit surprised about your results, though. The 66o6+ is dramatically different from the other ones. Wild, spitty and raw. It was modeled based on a heavily modded amp we have here at the studio.
@@Bogren.Digital I compared them to each other (and to RevC) both with their built-in cab simulations and with GetGood Cali. The stock IRs gave them a more noticeable difference, of course, but it was still more subtle than I'd expect from individual products. One possibility is that my studio monitoring situation is simply not as refined as that used during BDH development. As I am a simple home recording hobbyist, I acknowledge that this is almost 100% likely to be true. But if $1000 monitors are required to truly appreciate the nuances of $39 plugins, you may have misjudged your audience. Another possibility is that the differences between the BDH plugins get 'ironed out' as the gain increases. I made my comparisons with the gain knob(s) set to 7 -- the position it defaults to when double-clicked. Perhaps the tones are more varied at lower settings, which I again acknowledge is quite likely. (What's the saying? "More distortion = less personality" ?)
It’s just too much of the same sound, again. Don’t get me wrong, they sound good and the simplicity is cool...Even if you could just work with presets in every other amp sim to save time and it would sound the same. Also, the sound/tone of all 3 is just too similar to my ears, they lack a distinct character. I tried all of them out and got bored after a few minutes, because it’s just the same thing over and over again. It’s not that I don’t like the concept, but the market is sooo oversaturated with amp and cab sims these days, that it’s hard to justify a price tag like this. My advice would be: If this is your first amp sim, then go for it! If you’re using some Neural DSP or comparable amp sims, then pass.
Ironically, the only thing I "don't" like here, is the lack of a "scratch" mark for gain reference like on the mesa version lol (everyone thought that was the recommended gain)
If you double click on the gain knob in any of the BDH plugins, it turns to 7 -- a little bit higher than the scratch mark on the RevC (which double-clicks to 0 for some reason).
i think its kinda weird they picked 5150 style amps for these. 5150s arent exactly known for being hard to dial a good tone out of plus theres a bazillion plugins of them already. the mesa one made more sense imo. would be cool to seem some engl based ones though ive tried some engl plugins and personally find it a bit challenging to get a tone i like out of them. wasnt the whole point of these plugins to take the guesswork out of dialing tone anyway?
@user-bp3zv1rc9o I will. But being a Iconic owner I also just plug it into my interface anways lol. But that would be perfect if I don't wanna lug out the amp.
I’ve been looking for a new amp suite so I tried this and Clairvoyant, and Clairvoyant was the best one I’ve found by far. I like how easy it is to switch between the different amp functions and there’s a lot of variety in the default sounds they included. It’s pretty cool stuff. 🤟
I've also tried Clairvoyant, imo it does sound good but not as good as these. I do hope to see something from Bogren that's NeuralDSP style, a full on plugin with transpose and such. NeuralDSP is too overpriced imo.
Now kids, ya see when this here overdrive pedal is engaged ya can't just LEAVE THE GAIN where you set it. Let's just go ahead and dial that back down to 4 mmkay.
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The original rectifier AmpKnob sounds so good, I don't even bother using my real rectifier or AxeFx3 to record. It's EQ'd so nice. And it's so easy. I'm buying this bundle today.
Does the Riff Recorder work for solos? If not - im not buying
No way am I ACTUALLY first?!
Yes way
@@TheMerc1950 I even got the "Text me on Telegram for your prize" scam message! LOL!
Too noisy...All have the same noisy sound thrash metal, sad.. I was hope to find here something that cover metalcore sound but nop
This is my biggest dissapointment in all of my plugin history. I have paid my hard earnt money for rubbish. I always try and test out diffrent plugins see how they go. Support the creators. But i will def be hesatant in the future to pay for another borgen product. I have there kemper profiles and they were great. But honestly dont waste your time on this. Seriously its terrible.
Wow really? I’m still using these. Sorry your experience has not been great my guy!
@@RiffsAndBeards yeh look i use otto audio eleven neural dsp gojira nolly ampbox these all set a very very high standard in bone crushing gain and seem to replicate amps really well. I just found the Bhd bundle lacking in the gain department. Using apple mac apollo twin duo and yamaha hs8s so the set up is there. As i was sYing Borgden have absolutely great kemper profiles but yeh was not impressed with these plugins. These things will happen. Sometimes i will try adjusting some parameters on my interface. See if that helps.
How many different companies are gonna release the same amp sims over and over again? They all sound basically the same. People are chasing a perfect tone that flat out doesn't exist.
I think the main goal with this one is achieving a certain flavor of sound in just the turn of a single knob. It’s a solid idea. Multiple amps using this concept was a no brainer once I saw the first one release.
@@beastlybeast2716 let's put out an amp sim that sonically sounds like the amp through a 4x12. That would be different.
@@matthewfreeman33
They would if they could.
@@matthewfreeman33 you’ve clearly never actually micd a cab lol
They sound far from the same. The thing is to make them as real as possible. Only this year they start to compete with hardware like the Kemper.
Tonex is a good example. You don't need a Quartex or Kemper to get a real life sounding tone
Shiiit, this is exactly the vid I was hoping to find while typing in "bogren ampknob" 🤘🏼🤩
I love AmpKnob - RevC and was really excited when these new BDH options came out, but man, what a let down. I wasn't even positive they sound different at all until I did a null test. Switching from the 5169 to the 6606 to the III altered the sound as much -- or less than -- simply changing mic position in a cab sim.
I do dig the new features, though, and hope the RevC gets them in an update soon.
Updates to RevC are coming. We’re a bit surprised about your results, though. The 66o6+ is dramatically different from the other ones. Wild, spitty and raw.
It was modeled based on a heavily modded amp we have here at the studio.
@@Bogren.Digital I compared them to each other (and to RevC) both with their built-in cab simulations and with GetGood Cali. The stock IRs gave them a more noticeable difference, of course, but it was still more subtle than I'd expect from individual products.
One possibility is that my studio monitoring situation is simply not as refined as that used during BDH development. As I am a simple home recording hobbyist, I acknowledge that this is almost 100% likely to be true. But if $1000 monitors are required to truly appreciate the nuances of $39 plugins, you may have misjudged your audience.
Another possibility is that the differences between the BDH plugins get 'ironed out' as the gain increases. I made my comparisons with the gain knob(s) set to 7 -- the position it defaults to when double-clicked. Perhaps the tones are more varied at lower settings, which I again acknowledge is quite likely. (What's the saying? "More distortion = less personality" ?)
It’s just too much of the same sound, again. Don’t get me wrong, they sound good and the simplicity is cool...Even if you could just work with presets in every other amp sim to save time and it would sound the same.
Also, the sound/tone of all 3 is just too similar to my ears, they lack a distinct character.
I tried all of them out and got bored after a few minutes, because it’s just the same thing over and over again.
It’s not that I don’t like the concept, but the market is sooo oversaturated with amp and cab sims these days, that it’s hard to justify a price tag like this.
My advice would be: If this is your first amp sim, then go for it! If you’re using some Neural DSP or comparable amp sims, then pass.
They miss some of the ideas here (recording function and especially the metronome)…
@@MatthiasBuesing you’re right, the recording function is very cool. But the metronome is kind of a standard nowadays.
I definitely don't see the point (for us the users) of it being split into 3 separate, nearly redundant products.
@@ericolson326 They all have their own character, same as the original amps. You can buy just one so all is good...?!
@@FrancoW1 I don’t know a plugin (Neural, STL etc) with it. I don’t even manage to find a good Metronome ago at all…🤷🏻♂️
Ironically, the only thing I "don't" like here, is the lack of a "scratch" mark for gain reference like on the mesa version lol (everyone thought that was the recommended gain)
If you double click on the gain knob in any of the BDH plugins, it turns to 7 -- a little bit higher than the scratch mark on the RevC (which double-clicks to 0 for some reason).
Very cool. I got the Ampeg Bass One Knob. Its incredible, i stopped using all my other bass plugins, it has that classic tone.
Can't scoop mids, 0/10.
hahahaha
9:04 : avant-garde mode or something else knob? :D
I would have loved to see you use some custom IR's in this demo, and see how that changed the tone.
i used it with the downtune ir pack from bogren and they sound awesome
Can you use this for bass guitar
All I want is a blank pedal board computer system. Like a heliux but it's a computer running windows and you can use whatever vsts you want together
check out Gig Performer
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i think its kinda weird they picked 5150 style amps for these. 5150s arent exactly known for being hard to dial a good tone out of plus theres a bazillion plugins of them already. the mesa one made more sense imo. would be cool to seem some engl based ones though ive tried some engl plugins and personally find it a bit challenging to get a tone i like out of them. wasnt the whole point of these plugins to take the guesswork out of dialing tone anyway?
I'm waiting to see who does an amp sim of the 5150 Iconic.
ML sound lab already did one! Check it out, sounds great.
@user-bp3zv1rc9o I will. But being a Iconic owner I also just plug it into my interface anways lol. But that would be perfect if I don't wanna lug out the amp.
How much do the Ampknob plugins go for? They sound amazing!
You can get the set for $79.99 USD right now. $39.99/piece
I’ve been looking for a new amp suite so I tried this and Clairvoyant, and Clairvoyant was the best one I’ve found by far. I like how easy it is to switch between the different amp functions and there’s a lot of variety in the default sounds they included. It’s pretty cool stuff. 🤟
I've also tried Clairvoyant, imo it does sound good but not as good as these. I do hope to see something from Bogren that's NeuralDSP style, a full on plugin with transpose and such. NeuralDSP is too overpriced imo.
Clairvoyant Gave me option paralysis. It was just too much, I couldn't ever figure out what sounded good.
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These drums are incredible, what are they?!!
Perfect for lifeless, generic tones. Get yours today!
Backing down the gain at 4 once the overdrive is engaged is the most dad thing ever
Now kids, ya see when this here overdrive pedal is engaged ya can't just LEAVE THE GAIN where you set it. Let's just go ahead and dial that back down to 4 mmkay.
ML Sound Lab Icon sound so much better than any of these..