His All Holiness validates it all. "Because we are here even before this country was born". As a Catholic myself, I am deeply saddened by the Turkish government's treatment of our fellow Orthodox clergy/brothers there in Turkey. We will always be praying for them.
@@Constantineopulos My friend, I am leaving this devastating mess of Catholicism and coming home to Orthodoxy. I'm sick and tired of being treated like shit by other Catholics and clergy. All the Orthodox online and, after today I can also say in real life, for I have visited a Greek Orthodox church and talked to people, are so full of grace. I take no pride in being a Catholic, after all, I have never been accepted by other Catholics, I have never been called "brother" or "brother in Christ" by Catholics, but guess who has called me this in their first interactions with me? The ORTHODOX. And I'm not even Orthodox! Why do they do this? Because these people revere and respect God and those He has called, Catholics quite simply do NOT.
We will pray and pray for the Orthodox Christians in Turkey. A Filipino Roman Catholic here. :'( It's so sad to know this kind of persecutions that they are facing and yet I guess, the Christian World do not know about this.
Please pray also for the Armenian Apostolic (Orthodox) Church in Turkey. They are going through the exact same experiences and ordeals that the Greek Orthodox Church is going through. 🙏🙏🙏
I'm thoroughly enjoying 60 minutes' cover of Greek orthodoxy: not very well know throughout the western world but very important both historically and today with its hundreds of millions of followers
And who do you expect to "free" Constantinople? No Greeks will start a war with Turkey since it would have to be taken by force, and they don't have the firepower and are broke monetarily anyway. If you want something taken from you by force then you must use the same means to get it back. Never going to happen, the Greeks are gone soft.
Hi All, please refer to “Saints Paisios & Cosmas” who both prophesied what will follow regarding Constantinople. Both Saints have been quite accurate with a number of events which have since occurred. There’s some good news in there from these Saints who further prophesied that Constantinople will eventually go back to its motherland with thanks to the help of Russia. Worth the read! God bless all. 🙏🏻
Protect this man at all costs. And he loves his country nonetheless. He is a Dove in a pit of vipers, but a mighty dove brimming with love and confidence in the Lord Jesus Christ. No weapon formed against me shall prosper. Amen. ☦⛪
@@kbasusta I've never heard a bigger lie - how dare you! My people have been enslaved, raped and had our houses burned down for 5 centuries by the Turks.
@@kbasusta In exchange that muslims wanting to join the church be killed (ahmed the calligrapher pray for us) and the patriarch be used as a politcal tool to control christians? The church needed protection from the turks and only the turks.
I am not a religious man, but I do belong to the Orthodox Community. I visited the Patriarchate in 2006 and had the amazingly good luck to run into His Holiness. Even though I dont really believe, his presence overwhelmed me and almost automatically I sought his blessing. Which he did. I am not getting anywhere with this, and it is most likely one of those weird coincidences, but later that year, I got a big promotion and my personal life took a huge turn to the better.... Besides little stories though, the man is a martyr. The turks persecute his dwindling parish in unimaginable ways, to the shame of all Christian nations and especially the Orthodox, who tolerate a barbarous alien nation destroying the cradle of our culture. The biggest share of that shame falls on the Russians who are the mightiest Orthodox nation, that literally owes its very existence to the Byzantines, and who today is the only one that can do something about it. Not only they do nothing, but they arm and support erdogan. Go figure...
he meant second to the pope as far as the largest Christian leader. Also even according to Orthodoxy Constantinople is second in honor to rome so its technically corrects
@@lionheart5078 Yes, it is Primus inter Pares. So Rome is first because of Peter, but they have pretty much equal power. The See of Andrew ranks second
He's not the patriarch of 300 million Orthodox people. He is first among equals but does not rule over other patriarchs. Nether is his church the oldest of Christian churches. Orthodox Christians do not see him as a Pope, as Roman Catholics do their bishop of Rome.
Yes for orthodox all apostles aee equal. Thus each church revers its own apostolic sucessor as their own primate. We indian orthodox have the "catholicose of all the east " he is direct apostolic sucessor to St. Thomas the apostle.
@@jumpmasterpadre9335 where is it told in gospels that st Peter was given a throne? When lord jesus said to st Peter that he was kepha meaning rock it means our lord said about his faith it is like rock. Thus our lord proclaimed that on this rock I shall build my church. Whatever u shall bind on earth that will be bound in heaven and what all u unbind shall be done same in heaven. To all apostles our lord have given the same blessings and powers and told u shall rule on 12 thrones like the 12 tribes of Israel. Thus apostolic sucession is valid and same for all apostles. The st Peter only supremacy is Catholic point of view in orthodoxy it holds no particular value.. In orthodoxy all apostles are same. We rever the patriarch of Antioch st.Ignatios sucessor to st Peter in our dityphcs because of the role the antiochian church played in the preservation of the orthodox faith of all the east during tribulations from several heretics and other forgein forces. Other than that we don't consider the patriarch above or below the catholicose. They are equal as from canons, traditions and gospel.
"If you feel like a second class citizen as a Greek then why don't you just go to Greece?" The ignorance of the question is fascinating especially from a journalist who should be educated in this historical context. This would be equivalent to this Journalist telling a Native American that if they felt like second class citizens why don't they move to Canada or Mexico or cross back over the Bearing Sea. Before Turkey it was Byzantium. Greeks have lived on those lands for millennia but more importantly those lands are where the first 7 churches of Christianity were established. Yes unfortunately it is a conquered land but in this context we are speaking about citizens being disenfranchised because of ethnicity and religion. Not a very Western ideology from a country that wants to be part of the EU.
Excuse me for replying to this five-months-old comment out of nowhere, but it felt like this response partially stems from a slight misunderstanding of the interview format, and that made me a bit sad, so I have an urge to try and rectify this The phrasing of the question is definitely a bit unfortunate, and I can understand being aggravated at it, especially when it is probably often posed with much more incendiary and malicious intent in other contexts. However, it does have a specific purpose in the context of this interview, and that is not to serve as a genuine inquiry or suggestion by the interviewer, but as a prompt for the Patriarch to freely express his feelings on the matter. It's simply an important topic that needs to be breached, and a question that uneducated viewers, who might lack the historical context, would reasonably have at this point of the interview. For this format, it's the interviewer's purpose to act as a mediator between the audience and the interviewee, and it frankly makes sense to ask some of the most obvious and dumb questions, to ensure that even this base level of understanding is provided to an audience that might have no pre-existing knowledge of the topic. If that means that an audience of previously ignorant people, who might have decided to watch this documentary at complete random, then arrive at a fuller and more educated understanding of Christian struggles in Turkey, I'd say that's probably a good thing Again, I definitely agree that the exact phrasing of the question is worth criticizing, but I don't think it stems from a place of ignorance, and I don't think it's categorically wrong to pose in this interview context, and it probably does more good than harm here I hope this makes sense, and I hope I didn't misinterpret your comment. I also hope it's clear that I don't mean any insult. RUclips comments can be a very volatile space, so I feel the need to clarify that I'm not looking for a fight, but just want to provide a different perspective on what to me looked like a misunderstanding of the medium
I think the question is more for informational purpose for all those people of turkey who are Muslim who believe he should leave. The question or the answer to the question is to say how he feels and convey that they should not be/feel like 2nd class citizens and are equal to other citizens
@@GreekOrthodox7 technically that’s incorrect. While the main language of Constantinople was Greek (the revered language of intellects based on Ancient Greece), it was founded by Romans (Constantine the Great) for Romans, whose inhabitants only called themselves Roman. From 324 - 1453, it was only ever called the “Roman Empire” or more specifically the “Eastern Roman Empire”, until the Ottoman Empire (Turkish empire) conquered the heart of the empire, Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) in 1453. The term “Byzantium” or “Byzantine Empire” was actually only coined in 1557, 104 years after the Empire’s collapse, in an attempt to wrongly separate the Roman Empire from Julius Caesar and Augustus from the continuation of their empire by Constantine the Great (when he shifted the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Constantinople). I’m not Italian nor Greek, but I think it’s important to not claim a deceased empire’s legacy as your own. The Roman Empire’s achievements are theirs and theirs alone, and their descendants are scattered across much of modern Europe
This year I went to Constantinople and met his All Holyness, the Archbishop Bartholomew. I feel so blessed to have met him. During the service in Fanar I couldn‘t hold myself. Tears all over my face. It was like a sort of homecoming. So comforting. But at the same time it was saddening to see the patriarchate in such a state, the School of Chalki abandoned. It was heartbreaking, honestly. The Turkish authorities should be ashamed of themselves. They should come to Germany, where I live, to watch all the mosques, that have been built by the Muslim communities to worship God. All churches are sacred places, no religion stands above the other. At least on that we should agree.
All those mosques were built by Turkish migrants, it wasn't Germany who built them. Is Turkey receiving Christian migrants? No, even non-believers amongst Muslim families is decreasing. Turkey is protecting obviously Christians more than Muslims. Please stop spreading hate.
Ηe is not second to the Pope.There is no first second thing here,it is completely different. Christ came to this world to speak of the Truth . There is only one truth.
He was a little slow. If the priest or in this case Patriarch is walking at a good pace with many around who also want a blessing you have to come to him and be quick about it to receive a blessing
Luke 9:23 "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me". Chriistians must willing to suffer and die but victory is always wih us. "Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world." - John 16:33
Kind? You do realise they have the power to vanquish them right outta there? Too much mercy leads to too much entitlement. Maybe what you did to many muslims in russia and other parts of Europe and to incas and red indians should be really counted as mercy, huh?
Why not listen to the Head and Founder LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST as He Himself CONFER TO BLESSED SAINT PETER, THE FIRST POPE THE UNIVERSAL CARE FOR OTHER APOSTLES IN THE CATHOLIC SHEEPFOLD??
@@rev.jon2277 this is a status before year 1054...We all know that the Pope has become a king on Earth, a king with divine rights and this is not the kind of apostoles our Lord wishes; right? Crist is Risen.
@@ioakimmakis9288 Christ is Risen indeed my dear! And we need to at least "believe" that He established or rather founded, intended to be "a visible" Church structure. During the time of Christ's Apostles, no Constantinople existed. No wonder, in your tradition a political Emperor Constantine you added as the 13th Apostle, and you are serious with that arrangement. Kinda funny?
@@ioakimmakis9288 well about the 'political pope-king' human as we are, embarassing as it may, Rome is still Rome where Christ Himself intended where St. Peter [and St. Paul] sanctified by their blood, so as their established Church which St. Paul bluntly ascribed as 'he PISTIS KATHANGHELETAI EN HOLO TO KOSMO' The Roman Church UNIVERSALLY POPULAR with the Faith they preached.
For those who are watching (and are not Orthodox), it’s important to understand that the position that Patriarch Bartholomew occupies is not quite equivalent to that of the Pope. The pope is the single unequivocal leader of the Roman Catholic Church who has ultimate authority over all matters relating to church administration and doctrine. Orthodoxy is more like a “family of churches” with Patriarch Bartholomew as the head of the family. The individual Orthodox dioceses are self-governing with no direct oversight by Patriarch Bartholomew. He does have some powers but ultimately he is more like the head of a family than the leader of a corporation.
The Pope is nothing compared to the Orthodox Patriarch. Its all political thats all. The Greeks were the first and unfortunately at the time of the Bizantine empire the Greeks were under the Romans thats all. The Romans followed the Greek religion until they decided to leave the (Schema). They Romans read and spoke Greek because it was the international language of the world. The most civilised language and culture int he world. the Romans came 1000 years later and copied the Greeks. Therefore the Pope is rubbish compared to the Greeks who created the Bizantine empire and the Romans followed the Greeks lol.
Its a pity that the Christians all over the world has has not come forward to defend their heritage and the rights of their brothers in Constantinople.
Equal to the pope! Howerever, he has no power over people/ religion. Its more of a privilege. Orthodoxy never has changed since apostles started 1st church. No need for a pope.
Yes. Christ also never mentioned of earning or ruling the earth he said his kingdom is not of this world. Orthodoxy teaches the same to look above and beyond the earthly things and to focus on the heavenly and the most devine. Catholicism split and they had all the greed the corruption and in the end paved way for illuminati, protestanism and other challenges that christendom faces today.
I'd like to attribute the statement to ignorance, but when he prefaces the entire conversation that way, it makes you not even want to listen. But when the Patriarch is the subject, listening to him share his wisdom makes it worth it.
@@drillculture Even the Turkish sultans let the Orthodox Christians practice their faith in Istanbul for 500 years. So no, there has been no “conquering” in recent times, just pure discrimination and persecution by a Turkish government that’s less advanced than its predecessors from 500 years in the past
Xristos Anesti! "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in Heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, And the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." - Matthew 16:17-18
I'm a convinced atheist, but damn seeing 1700 years of history and the people behind it, almost wiped by an idiotic conflict between two religions is just heartbreaking. And the worst thing is, realistically, nobody can do shit about it.
I wish it were a conflict, but it isn't. The only conflict there is the Muslims trying to deny and exterminate non-Muslims That Bishop/patriarch is not trying to do the same to them. I do not believe Joseph Smith was a prophet, but Mormons do and as a Catholic I would NEVER try to deny them their beliefs. Muslims never offer any symbol or act of ecumenicism. Never. They seek to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. And that is truly sad and criminal.
It’s not even a conflict of religions (Mohammad signed a treaty to allow for Christians to openly practice their faith - as shown on this video). This is just the Turkish government being corrupt and intentionally persecuting the oldest Christians on the planet
In Russia we are now free of the Communist yoke and Orthodox Church is the largest Religious Denomination! In Istanbul there is Bart the Pirate of the church who is out to make himself Orthodox Pope as a Greek i will never accept it unworthy is the heretic
May the Lord enlighten you. Here in Orthodoxy many wonders occur. Many people were cured by the Lord for the prayers of the saints, such as Nektarios of Aegina, who lived in the previous century and was really persecuted , Saint Ephraim of Nea Makri, who was killed by the ottomans in a tragic way.. and he showed himself after 500 years in the 1900s in a dream to a blessed nun and she dreamed the place where his relics were.(they were lost before), and since then many people were cured and enlightened. I really suggest you to visit Mount Athos in Greece, Aegina, Nea Makri, Souroti where is burried St Paisios the Athonite, Tessaloniki, to see the wonder of the Myrrh which bleeds from the relics of St Demetrius the Marthyr who did not want to become pagan, but rather die for Christ, in the first Christian centuries. And many wonders happen there, the Myrrh from the Saint bleeding from much time.. in Greece.. St. Paraskeva, St Demetrius in Romania, who was discovered in a similar way, when a really sick girl dreamed him and he told him about his rellics were burried somehow under a river. And after they were found, the girl was cured. But why do these miracles happen? Because these people came close to God, they experienced theosis, communion with the Lord. And you know, if you want to see a tree, you must go you personally near the tree or you must believe those who saw it eith their eyes. May the Lord enlighten you! May the Most-Holy Mother of Our Lord protect you and enlgihten you and show you the path! Best wishes.
Nothing is wiped. It’s just the power-hungry Greeks and Armenians waffling about unrelated things to keep their land claims alive. Christ knows that. And I know that accusations to Turkey are only the miserable reality of Greece and Armenia’s lack of education and experience. They know what happened when they tried to invade a piece of land in 1922. Much worser things will happen if they even dare again.
@@ILovesjesus. the greeks were there way before the romans. The romans followed afterwards. The greeks created the byzantine empire the romans followed they didnt create an empire.
As a Muslim all I needed to defend this bishop with my own life is that one letter from my prophet Muhammad (SAW). I DON'T KNOW WHY TURKEY IS TURNING BLIND ON THAT LETTER.
@muise alimoideen: I appreciate your statement, sir, and I believe that you're on the way to Heaven, even as Muslim (-from Christian perspective), as long you truly follow your God, in the right way, which is the way of love and goodness.
@@alireact1827 Your last sentence is wrong, God is not a man. But no-one of us humans has ever seen God, since we are only humans and "he" is God. EXACTLY IN ORDER FOR US HUMANS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TRUE RELATION WITH GOD AND TO BE ABLE TO BE CLEAN- AND HOLY ENOUGH IN FRONT OF GOD, God decided to INCARNATE as a human, as a God-Man (-Jesus) and take all the sins of humans on Himself and thus eliminate ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING which separates us humans from being with God (being Holy AND EVEN HAVING GOD'S NATURE). So, by accepting Son of God (-by faith, ONLY faith that He is who he claimed that He is, i.e. Son of God and ONE WITH FATHER GOD, only faith in that is enough and justifies/accuses a man in the eyes of God) any human gets saved and will be with God in heaven. And any OTHER things, like praying 6 times a day, eating this and not that, is NOTHING (not enough) in the eyes of God and even UGLINESS in front of God (-if one practice ONLY that and if one lives AFTER the time of Jesus being here on earth), since it ignores THE SUFFERING AND VICTORY (RESURRECTION) of His Son (whom He sent for us and for justification of OUR sins). So, at least according to Christianity, hell will be full of people who didn't want to accept Christ during their lives, while many of these people performed all religious commandments of their religion (Judaism, Islam, Hinduism,...), at least if they HEARD about Christ (but have spontaneously chosen NOT to believe in Him). Imagine that you're a father who sent your only son to some far away village to help people there. Some of villagers accepted your son and his glory, while others beated him. Wouldn't THAT (-their attitude to your son) be the MAIN criteria for your attitude to THEM (not how well they performed other things)? That's Christianity, my friend. You don't need to even lift a spoon in order to be justified in front of God, but you have to BELIEVE in it and RESPECT it and GLORIFY it (in true happiness) since He (-Got Father, God Son and The Holy Spirit) did all the job and suffering for you and instead of you, out of pure LOVE for you (just don't ignore that love). That's why Apostle John says "God is love", and this love and mercy is open to EVERYONE. It's FREE but it's not CHEAP at all (it's payed with great suffering and sacrifice of God, for our sake).
@@vickvickson4273 To be honest with you i stopped the moment you said jesus dieid for our sins.What are we created for if a man took our sins. What is our goal on this planet. To drink alchol, have sex. make childrens, make money is that all we are created for. NOO. W e are created for to worship god alone just like jesus was created to worship Allah alone. You must stop this paul words and follow correct teaching of jesus.
The country and name Turkey is less than 100 years old (1924). Before 1924 it was named Ottoman Empire, Byzantine Empire and Roman Empire (1700 years). The Region was known by various names in the past and the Greek prefer the old name of Mikra Asia (Small Asia). Asia was a Greek goddess ! Just like Europa ! And all important monuments in Turkey today are Greek, Armenian and Persian.
There was no Byzantine Empire. It was just the Roman Empire that had a new capital and officially adopted the language of the educated and prestigious, Greek. Remember Greek was always language of the Romans since the inception of the empire, it was more or less the lingua franca of the Romans since they in the East solely speak Greek, and Roman Emperors had to speak Greek and Latin. If you deny and continue to call the Greek-speaking Romans "Byzantines", you are still carrying on the lies of a German historian who coined the term in the 16th Century CE just for the sake justifying the name of the Holy Roman Empire, a German Empire that was neither holy nor ROMAN as Voltaire would say. Condemnant quo non intellegunt...
Jd Pv wow.... By order of the Vatican eh? The rebellious Roman High Priest who simply wanted to claim the legitimacy of the Roman Empire. What is wrong with you people? Still stuck with the lies. The Roman Empire fell in 1453. THERE WAS NO ROMANO-MACEDONIAN EMPIRE. You and your fantasies! Popish sympathisers, always fantasising that the Empire fell in 476! Why can’t you can’t accept that it was the Roman Empire? Greece was simply a part of it?! What was Greece back then?? We could simply call it Roman Greece in the Medieval Period. Just like Germany and Italy, there was no Germany nor Italy till the 19th Century! They were part of different kingdoms and empires back then: Papal States, Holy Roman Empire, Kingdom of Sicily, Republic of Venice, etc.! Nuff said.
Actually that’s technically incorrect. While the main language of Constantinople was Greek, it was founded by Romans (Constantine the Great) for Romans, whose inhabitants only called themselves Roman. From 324 - 1453, it was only ever called the “Roman Empire” or more specifically the “Eastern Roman Empire”, until the Ottoman Empire (Turkish empire) conquered the heart of the empire, Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) in 1453. The term “Byzantium” or “Byzantine Empire” was actually only coined in 1557, 104 years after the Empire’s collapse, in an attempt to wrongly separate the Roman Empire from Julius Caesar and Augustus from the continuation of their empire by Constantine the Great (when he shifted the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Constantinople). I’m not Italian nor Greek, but I think it’s important to not claim a deceased empire’s legacy as your own. The Roman Empire’s achievements are theirs and theirs alone, and their descendants are scattered across much of modern Europe
@@kevingutierrez9273 well said. For anyone reading, please read my comment in addition to Kevin’s. He’s covered the history of the term “Byzantium” and the reason why the Eastern Roman Empire spoke Greek incredibly well
The progression of the Sees of Jerusalem (first Patriarch was St. James the Just, step-brother of Christ), Antioch (first Patriarch was St. Peter), Alexandria (first Patriarch was St. Mark), Rome (first Patriarch was St. Peter), and finally Constantinople (first Patriarch was St. Anatolius). Under the Ottoman empire the See of Constantinople was subjugated under the Sultan, therefore it was not free to select their own leaders as the other Sees were. Islam still repress the Christians to this day.
Sad but very, very true. The Ecumenical Patriarch can’t leave Constantinople/Instanbul, as his predecessor must be chosen from this city. It’s ironic and incredibly unfortunate that historically the most powerful Christian patriarch (ie, from 324-1453 - being the closest to the Roman Emperor), who has been oppressed by the Turks since 1453, is now being persecuted and forced out by a Turkey’s PM who wants Sharia Law but doesn’t follow Muhammad’s principles (ie, freedom of religion for Christians)
We must remember our Christian brothers wherever they are. Pope Francis has opened the Catholic Church to the Orthodox. The Orthodox are our brethren. I pray for them.
Orthodox faith is the only truth faith my brother.older than katholicism..putin karolos of england and many others important persons are orthodox christians..
@@ΝικολαοςΚαρφης Exactly, we Greeks were the FIRST Catholic and Apostolic church, the Romans were Greeks...and there was NO schism. Watch the video "The Great Schism: did it even really happen? by Metropolitan Pavlos Stratigeas, on the channel: Greek Orthodox Christian Television. BEST explanation ever, and no Catholics know this, they insist WE broke away....
@@ΝικολαοςΚαρφης Council of Constantinople I “The bishop of Constantinople shall have the primacy of honor after the bishop of Rome, because his city is New Rome” (canon 3 [A.D. 381]).
@@ΝικολαοςΚαρφης Augustine “There are many other things which rightly keep me in the bosom of the Catholic Church. The consent of the people and nations keeps me, her authority keeps me, inaugurated by miracles, nourished in hope, enlarged by love, and established by age. The succession of priests keep me, from the very seat of the apostle Peter (to whom the Lord after his resurrection gave charge to feed his sheep) down to the present episcopate [of Pope Siricius]” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 5 [A.D. 397]). “[On this matter of the Pelagians] two councils have already been sent to the Apostolic See [the bishop of Rome], and from there rescripts too have come. The matter is at an end; would that the error too might be at an end!” (Sermons 131:10 [A.D. 411]).
@@spartanmoon Council of Chalcedon “Bishop Paschasinus, guardian of the Apostolic See, stood in the midst [of the Council Fathers] and said, ‘We received directions at the hands of the most blessed and apostolic bishop of the Roman city [Pope Leo I], who is the head of all the churches, which directions say that Dioscorus is not to be allowed to sit in the [present] assembly, but that if he should attempt to take his seat, he is to be cast out. This instruction we must carry out” (Acts of the Council, session 1 [A.D. 451]). “After the reading of the foregoing epistle [The Tome of Leo], the most reverend bishops cried out: ‘This is the faith of the fathers! This is the faith of the apostles! So we all believe! Thus the orthodox believe! Anathema to him who does not thus believe! Peter has spoken thus through Leo!’” (ibid., session 2).
Second to the Pope? Let's say we were not broken in half. The Patriarch is higher than the Bishop. Why is the Pope still called the Bishop of Rome? In ancient Christianity, the Patriarch from Constantinople created and named the Bishop of Rome. The autonomy of the papal throne does not come from any ancient right. The first disloyal bishop of Rome called himself pope. This was the mistake that broke the church. The need for power and the cunning personality of the so-called man of god. This is a history lesson! Don't take it as hateful. But it's the Truth.
When was the formal title of Pope first officially bestowed on the Bishops of Rome? Calling clergy “father” (Gk, papa) probably originates as a title of respect for the monastery abbot in Egypt, sometime in the early 200s. Even the title abbot comes from the Aramaic abba, which means father. The terms were probably interchangeable depending on the language being spoken. It is soon adapted for use when addressing bishops - the pastoral leader of a diocese, parallel to the abbot of a monastery. The first bishop to be addressed as “papa” or “pope” is the bishop of Alexandria, about 240.
For those wondering, the Ecumenical Patriarch (ie, this man) is the head of all Orthodox Christians (Greeks, Serbs, Ukrainians, Romania, etc) who has lived in Constantinople/Istanbul for over 1700 years (ie, since the Bible was created and before Turkey existed). To discriminate and treat this man in this way is such a monumental insult to all Christians, let alone Orthodox Christians, that Turkey should be beyond ashamed. For a country that is trying to reintroduce Sharia Law, it’s incredibly ironic that they’re not even trying to respect Mohammad’s teachings (who preached and signed a letter if religious tolerance) by forcing out and effectively eradicating the oldest group of Christians in the world
well said. This was and always will be Greek land. The romans only followed the greeks because they loved the greek culture so much. The Turks can believe what they want but the Greeks will always say 'Always was and always will be Greek land'.
The schismatics recognized by Bart were free from "Moscow burden" anyway. Istanbul pope has betrayed the true Ukrainian Orthodox Church under Met. Onuphry and created a conflict which will last for many decades if not centuries.
There are only 2000 or so Greeks left in Turkey. Every other Orthodox country has a massive cathedral and it's own administration now including Russia, Romania, Serbia and Bulgaria. Greece needs to move the Patriarchate to Athens or Thessaloniki and build a cathedral that is so massive it makes Hagia Sophia look like a hut.
@@chronos401 there's no point to your comment. Every single Christian faith including the Eastern Orthodox has big cathedrals. Greece needs a replacement for Hagia Sophia, something the Russians, Romanians, Serbians etc., have already accepted and therefore built massive churches.
To be clear, Patriarch Bartholomew is not “second only to the pope,” even in numbers. ALL ancient episcopal Churches-Catholic or Orthodox, East or West, and even some Protestants (or reformed Catholics, as some prefer) like Anglicans, etc.- recognize the pope as the bishop of Rome and the Eastern patriarchs, including Bartholomew. Roman Catholics, of course, claim a primacy of authority for the pope, while Orthodox, Anglo-Catholics, etc. typically consider the bishops equal in authority if not always in historical or actual prominence, with many Anglicans triangulating authority of tradition, scripture, and reason more liberally. Lesser known to American Protestants doesn’t mean lesser in importance globally among Christians.
Lets get one thing straight here. Orthodox Christianity dates back to the days that Christ lived (the day of Pentecost was when the orthodox church was formed.) The catholic church was formed in 1054. The Patriarche is the spiritual leader of the Orthodox church. Sure there are other patriarches in other countries. But Patriarche Bartholomew is the prime leader. He is above the pope. Seeing that the orthodox church was formed waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the catholic...it only make sense that he is above the pope. Now many ppl wont agree with this..but all you need to do is read about it. Get your facts straight.
The Church in Rome was established by the Apostles and it carries the memories of the martyrdom of St. Peter and Paul and consecrated by the witness of countless other martyrs.
@@melroycorrea7720 The church in Rome was turned into a gate for devils to destroy the Church of The Holy Trinity. It remained just "Catholic" by name as it's lost its ortho-doxy.
He is not the prime leader and not above the pope. Orthodoxy has got nothing to do with heretics such as the catholics. This man is an oecumenist however and he wants to unite with catholics. 😢
There is a power greater than man's and all that man has built that offends God will be brought to dust and the righteous order will be restored in this world, and those who have suffered will see justice!
Yep, the next Ecumenical Patriarch must be chosen from a college of cardinals (effectively) in Istanbul, which has now been banned. They’re practically banning the next Orthodox Pope, whose position has existed for over 1,700 years
He and his Church has been vilified not just by his government as implied in this story, but also by major Orthodox churches , where he has been excommunicated. He speaks briefly with reserved suffering conviction, and his circumstances will give him an appreciation of human oppression throughout the world first hand.
This video is full of inaccuracy. He is not a pope of Orthodox Church or leader of Orthodox Church. There is no pope (as some dictator) of Orthodox Church.
But he has the honor of being the first among equals, which does not mean that he leads everything or that he asks everything. Because in the Orthodox Church, everything is at the council level.
"If you feel like a second class citizen as a Greek then why don't you just go to Greece?". Q: Has a TV reporter ever suggested to a non European (complaining about 'islamophobia', or racism ) that they just go live in a different country?
Interviewer: "if your treated as second class citizens, why don't you go to Greece?" I wonder if he would ask that to other people's that are being mistreated in the country in which they are residing.
It’s discriminatory. Christ’s Church has been there for thousands of years, long before the Muslims. I’m not even Orthodox, I’m Catholic. Catholics do believe that Orthodox Priests have the power to Consecrate the Leavened Bread and Wine into the Most Holy Body and Most Precious Blood of Christ. It makes me angry that followers of Christ are so discriminated against especially in the Middle East. Christ is God on earth. The Muslim gods don’t have power. They think that Jesus is a “Prophet.” No, he is God. He created the one Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church something that Catholic, Orthodox, and most Protestants believe in. Islam is false. I really don’t care if I get harassed for saying this, I really don’t. It’s a shame, and those who discriminate against the one true God and his followers should repent. I will pray for their conversion.
The Patriarch of Constantinople is not "second only" to the Pope or anybody else. He is the Ecumenical Patriarch and first among equals of all the Orthodox Patriarchs. The Pope is second only to His All-Holiness. Of course, I wouldn't expect an American to be intelligent enough to understand that.
His All Holiness validates it all. "Because we are here even before this country was born". As a Catholic myself, I am deeply saddened by the Turkish government's treatment of our fellow Orthodox clergy/brothers there in Turkey. We will always be praying for them.
Tell that to your brothers who sacked Constantinople…
@@Constantineopulosthe greeks mass*cred the catholics there so the greeks deserved it
@@ihatenickurs Keep talking. The West is falling. If only you didn't ruin the Christian East, maybe you'd have a chance.
@@Constantineopulos the greeks were ruining themselves before crusaders sacked constantinople anyway
@@Constantineopulos My friend, I am leaving this devastating mess of Catholicism and coming home to Orthodoxy. I'm sick and tired of being treated like shit by other Catholics and clergy. All the Orthodox online and, after today I can also say in real life, for I have visited a Greek Orthodox church and talked to people, are so full of grace. I take no pride in being a Catholic, after all, I have never been accepted by other Catholics, I have never been called "brother" or "brother in Christ" by Catholics, but guess who has called me this in their first interactions with me? The ORTHODOX. And I'm not even Orthodox! Why do they do this? Because these people revere and respect God and those He has called, Catholics quite simply do NOT.
May those who know and serve the Lord Jesus Christ, our Redeemer, remember to pray for their brothers and sisters in the faith, wherever they may be.
We will pray and pray for the Orthodox Christians in Turkey. A Filipino Roman Catholic here. :'( It's so sad to know this kind of persecutions that they are facing and yet I guess, the Christian World do not know about this.
Please pray also for the Armenian Apostolic (Orthodox) Church in Turkey. They are going through the exact same experiences and ordeals that the Greek Orthodox Church is going through. 🙏🙏🙏
@@margokupelian344 Amen brother, we will pray for you and to our brothers Armenian Orthodox
60 Minutes thank you for reporting this! The west isn't informed enough about this situation.
I'm thoroughly enjoying 60 minutes' cover of Greek orthodoxy: not very well know throughout the western world but very important both historically and today with its hundreds of millions of followers
Free Constantinople!
And who do you expect to "free" Constantinople? No Greeks will start a war with Turkey since it would have to be taken by force, and they don't have the firepower and are broke monetarily anyway. If you want something taken from you by force then you must use the same means to get it back. Never going to happen, the Greeks are gone soft.
@@euclidkid4515 No stress Putin will eventually do it without a bullet being fired. The Greeks will just sit back and watch.
Hi All, please refer to “Saints Paisios & Cosmas” who both prophesied what will follow regarding Constantinople.
Both Saints have been quite accurate with a number of events which have since occurred.
There’s some good news in there from these Saints who further prophesied that Constantinople will eventually go back to its motherland with thanks to the help of Russia. Worth the read! God bless all. 🙏🏻
@@angelwings3128 when will it happen. I am waiting every day and I cry every day about what happened to Asia Minor
@@DCCrisisclips - we keep praying and leave it in God’s hands. God bless. ✝️🙏🏻
Protect this man at all costs. And he loves his country nonetheless. He is a Dove in a pit of vipers, but a mighty dove brimming with love and confidence in the Lord Jesus Christ. No weapon formed against me shall prosper. Amen. ☦⛪
Turks have defended the Orthodox church for 600 years.
@@kbasusta I've never heard a bigger lie - how dare you! My people have been enslaved, raped and had our houses burned down for 5 centuries by the Turks.
“Turks have defended Orthodox Church for 600 years”…..are you a lunatic or the Devil himself ?
@@kbasusta In exchange that muslims wanting to join the church be killed (ahmed the calligrapher pray for us) and the patriarch be used as a politcal tool to control christians? The church needed protection from the turks and only the turks.
I am Orthodox and to me he is a heretic pig 🐽
I am not a religious man, but I do belong to the Orthodox Community. I visited the Patriarchate in 2006 and had the amazingly good luck to run into His Holiness. Even though I dont really believe, his presence overwhelmed me and almost automatically I sought his blessing. Which he did. I am not getting anywhere with this, and it is most likely one of those weird coincidences, but later that year, I got a big promotion and my personal life took a huge turn to the better....
Besides little stories though, the man is a martyr. The turks persecute his dwindling parish in unimaginable ways, to the shame of all Christian nations and especially the Orthodox, who tolerate a barbarous alien nation destroying the cradle of our culture. The biggest share of that shame falls on the Russians who are the mightiest Orthodox nation, that literally owes its very existence to the Byzantines, and who today is the only one that can do something about it. Not only they do nothing, but they arm and support erdogan. Go figure...
To any Orthodox brothers and sisters in Christ reading this: we will meet one day in Constantinople.
God bless you.
Χριστὸς Ανέστη!
Bartholomew, the Patriarch of Constantinople, is coequal to the Pope of Rome, not “second.”
Catholics believe the pope is the successor of Peter. The orthodox believe the pope is the 1st among equals among the 4 other patriarchs
he meant second to the pope as far as the largest Christian leader. Also even according to Orthodoxy Constantinople is second in honor to rome so its technically corrects
@@lionheart5078 this one’s actually correct^
@@lionheart5078 Yes, it is Primus inter Pares. So Rome is first because of Peter, but they have pretty much equal power. The See of Andrew ranks second
@@thebalkanhistorian.3205 this is debated in Orthodoxy, Patriarch Bartholomew seems to think otherwise
He's not the patriarch of 300 million Orthodox people. He is first among equals but does not rule over other patriarchs. Nether is his church the oldest of Christian churches. Orthodox Christians do not see him as a Pope, as Roman Catholics do their bishop of Rome.
@@radicalgreek99 We knew the anti-semitism wouldn't be slow in rearing its head.
Yes for orthodox all apostles aee equal. Thus each church revers its own apostolic sucessor as their own primate. We indian orthodox have the "catholicose of all the east " he is direct apostolic sucessor to St. Thomas the apostle.
He is Patriach of all orthodox. That's why he was called Ecumenical.
@@jumpmasterpadre9335 where is it told in gospels that st Peter was given a throne? When lord jesus said to st Peter that he was kepha meaning rock it means our lord said about his faith it is like rock. Thus our lord proclaimed that on this rock I shall build my church. Whatever u shall bind on earth that will be bound in heaven and what all u unbind shall be done same in heaven. To all apostles our lord have given the same blessings and powers and told u shall rule on 12 thrones like the 12 tribes of Israel. Thus apostolic sucession is valid and same for all apostles. The st Peter only supremacy is Catholic point of view in orthodoxy it holds no particular value.. In orthodoxy all apostles are same. We rever the patriarch of Antioch st.Ignatios sucessor to st Peter in our dityphcs because of the role the antiochian church played in the preservation of the orthodox faith of all the east during tribulations from several heretics and other forgein forces. Other than that we don't consider the patriarch above or below the catholicose. They are equal as from canons, traditions and gospel.
1celtic2 precisely, my fellow person, he is the first among equals. Every bishop in the church knows that. #whosurbishop
"If you feel like a second class citizen as a Greek then why don't you just go to Greece?"
The ignorance of the question is fascinating especially from a journalist who should be educated in this historical context.
This would be equivalent to this Journalist telling a Native American that if they felt like second class citizens why don't they move to Canada or Mexico or cross back over the Bearing Sea.
Before Turkey it was Byzantium.
Greeks have lived on those lands for millennia but more importantly those lands are where the first 7 churches of Christianity were established. Yes unfortunately it is a conquered land but in this context we are speaking about citizens being disenfranchised because of ethnicity and religion. Not a very Western ideology from a country that wants to be part of the EU.
Excuse me for replying to this five-months-old comment out of nowhere, but it felt like this response partially stems from a slight misunderstanding of the interview format, and that made me a bit sad, so I have an urge to try and rectify this
The phrasing of the question is definitely a bit unfortunate, and I can understand being aggravated at it, especially when it is probably often posed with much more incendiary and malicious intent in other contexts. However, it does have a specific purpose in the context of this interview, and that is not to serve as a genuine inquiry or suggestion by the interviewer, but as a prompt for the Patriarch to freely express his feelings on the matter. It's simply an important topic that needs to be breached, and a question that uneducated viewers, who might lack the historical context, would reasonably have at this point of the interview. For this format, it's the interviewer's purpose to act as a mediator between the audience and the interviewee, and it frankly makes sense to ask some of the most obvious and dumb questions, to ensure that even this base level of understanding is provided to an audience that might have no pre-existing knowledge of the topic. If that means that an audience of previously ignorant people, who might have decided to watch this documentary at complete random, then arrive at a fuller and more educated understanding of Christian struggles in Turkey, I'd say that's probably a good thing
Again, I definitely agree that the exact phrasing of the question is worth criticizing, but I don't think it stems from a place of ignorance, and I don't think it's categorically wrong to pose in this interview context, and it probably does more good than harm here
I hope this makes sense, and I hope I didn't misinterpret your comment. I also hope it's clear that I don't mean any insult. RUclips comments can be a very volatile space, so I feel the need to clarify that I'm not looking for a fight, but just want to provide a different perspective on what to me looked like a misunderstanding of the medium
I think the question is more for informational purpose for all those people of turkey who are Muslim who believe he should leave. The question or the answer to the question is to say how he feels and convey that they should not be/feel like 2nd class citizens and are equal to other citizens
And Constantinople *is* Greece.
@@GreekOrthodox7 technically that’s incorrect. While the main language of Constantinople was Greek (the revered language of intellects based on Ancient Greece), it was founded by Romans (Constantine the Great) for Romans, whose inhabitants only called themselves Roman.
From 324 - 1453, it was only ever called the “Roman Empire” or more specifically the “Eastern Roman Empire”, until the Ottoman Empire (Turkish empire) conquered the heart of the empire, Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) in 1453.
The term “Byzantium” or “Byzantine Empire” was actually only coined in 1557, 104 years after the Empire’s collapse, in an attempt to wrongly separate the Roman Empire from Julius Caesar and Augustus from the continuation of their empire by Constantine the Great (when he shifted the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Constantinople).
I’m not Italian nor Greek, but I think it’s important to not claim a deceased empire’s legacy as your own. The Roman Empire’s achievements are theirs and theirs alone, and their descendants are scattered across much of modern Europe
Turkey has a criminal record,(Armenian, Greek pontian,Christians genocide) not a history...
Orthodox and Catholic church with more than 2000 years of history
Protestant of the 90s: ok, and?
But which one is correct? Both do not validate the other.
@@davidmckelvey2601 You are wrong. The Greeks were there the Romans followed.
This year I went to Constantinople and met his All Holyness, the Archbishop Bartholomew. I feel so blessed to have met him. During the service in Fanar I couldn‘t hold myself. Tears all over my face. It was like a sort of homecoming. So comforting. But at the same time it was saddening to see the patriarchate in such a state, the School of Chalki abandoned. It was heartbreaking, honestly. The Turkish authorities should be ashamed of themselves. They should come to Germany, where I live, to watch all the mosques, that have been built by the Muslim communities to worship God. All churches are sacred places, no religion stands above the other. At least on that we should agree.
All those mosques were built by Turkish migrants, it wasn't Germany who built them. Is Turkey receiving Christian migrants? No, even non-believers amongst Muslim families is decreasing. Turkey is protecting obviously Christians more than Muslims. Please stop spreading hate.
Ηe is not second to the Pope.There is no first second thing here,it is completely different. Christ came to this world to speak of the Truth . There is only one truth.
3:02 must have been so awkward for that guy that got missed.
He was a little slow. If the priest or in this case Patriarch is walking at a good pace with many around who also want a blessing you have to come to him and be quick about it to receive a blessing
Luke 9:23 "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me". Chriistians must willing to suffer and die but victory is always wih us. "Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world." - John 16:33
Слава Ісусу Христу! Боже Бережи Нашого Вселенського Патріарха Варфоломія 🐑🙏☦️
May lord have Mercy on Orthodox Faith.
This guy didn’t do his homework. Quit comparing everything to rome
Capture Constantinople and keep as a Christian city.
I'm Roman, but I fell very sad about the Constantinople situation. Unfortunally the muslims aren't kind as we are.
??? why is he living in ISTANBUL ?? we let him live and treat him nice. ISLAMBOL not consta..
Kind? You do realise they have the power to vanquish them right outta there? Too much mercy leads to too much entitlement. Maybe what you did to many muslims in russia and other parts of Europe and to incas and red indians should be really counted as mercy, huh?
The real church
Isn’t this interview at least ten years old? I thought this reporter passed on?
Yes, this is not recent.
HE IS NOT 2ND TO THE POPE...SAYING THIS IS A BLASPHEMY
Why not listen to the Head and Founder LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST as He Himself CONFER TO BLESSED SAINT PETER, THE FIRST POPE THE UNIVERSAL CARE FOR OTHER APOSTLES IN THE CATHOLIC SHEEPFOLD??
St. Matthew 16: 18, John 21: 17
@@rev.jon2277 this is a status before year 1054...We all know that the Pope has become a king on Earth, a king with divine rights and this is not the kind of apostoles our Lord wishes; right? Crist is Risen.
@@ioakimmakis9288 Christ is Risen indeed my dear! And we need to at least "believe" that He established or rather founded, intended to be "a visible" Church structure. During the time of Christ's Apostles, no Constantinople existed. No wonder, in your tradition a political Emperor Constantine you added as the 13th Apostle, and you are serious with that arrangement. Kinda funny?
@@ioakimmakis9288 well about the 'political pope-king' human as we are, embarassing as it may, Rome is still Rome where Christ Himself intended where St. Peter [and St. Paul] sanctified by their blood, so as their established Church which St. Paul bluntly ascribed as 'he PISTIS KATHANGHELETAI EN HOLO TO KOSMO' The Roman Church UNIVERSALLY POPULAR with the Faith they preached.
For those who are watching (and are not Orthodox), it’s important to understand that the position that Patriarch Bartholomew occupies is not quite equivalent to that of the Pope. The pope is the single unequivocal leader of the Roman Catholic Church who has ultimate authority over all matters relating to church administration and doctrine. Orthodoxy is more like a “family of churches” with Patriarch Bartholomew as the head of the family. The individual Orthodox dioceses are self-governing with no direct oversight by Patriarch Bartholomew. He does have some powers but ultimately he is more like the head of a family than the leader of a corporation.
The Pope is nothing compared to the Orthodox Patriarch. Its all political thats all. The Greeks were the first and unfortunately at the time of the Bizantine empire the Greeks were under the Romans thats all.
The Romans followed the Greek religion until they decided to leave the (Schema). They Romans read and spoke Greek because it was the international language of the world. The most civilised language and culture int he world. the Romans came 1000 years later and copied the Greeks. Therefore the Pope is rubbish compared to the Greeks who created the Bizantine empire and the Romans followed the Greeks lol.
Its a pity that the Christians all over the world has has not come forward to defend their heritage and the rights of their brothers in Constantinople.
Equal to the pope! Howerever, he has no power over people/ religion. Its more of a privilege. Orthodoxy never has changed since apostles started 1st church. No need for a pope.
Yes. Christ also never mentioned of earning or ruling the earth he said his kingdom is not of this world. Orthodoxy teaches the same to look above and beyond the earthly things and to focus on the heavenly and the most devine. Catholicism split and they had all the greed the corruption and in the end paved way for illuminati, protestanism and other challenges that christendom faces today.
I'd like to attribute the statement to ignorance, but when he prefaces the entire conversation that way, it makes you not even want to listen. But when the Patriarch is the subject, listening to him share his wisdom makes it worth it.
The head of our Orthodox Churches is Christ.
Turkey should be ashamed of themselves. If the shoe was on the other foo5 and a Muslim was treated like this the world would know and cry prejudice.
Y’all acting like it was conquered without a reason.
@@drillculture Even the Turkish sultans let the Orthodox Christians practice their faith in Istanbul for 500 years. So no, there has been no “conquering” in recent times, just pure discrimination and persecution by a Turkish government that’s less advanced than its predecessors from 500 years in the past
Xristos Anesti! "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in Heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, And the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." - Matthew 16:17-18
Saint John foresaw a period of tribulation in The Apocalypse. Well, here we are. Madmen accuse us of being mad because we are not like them.
Peaceful coexistence and tolerance is a bliss wherever it is found and practised.
The greed of France and the UK to not have fought and taken back Greek land basically took away their life.
I'm a convinced atheist, but damn seeing 1700 years of history and the people behind it, almost wiped by an idiotic conflict between two religions is just heartbreaking. And the worst thing is, realistically, nobody can do shit about it.
I wish it were a conflict, but it isn't. The only conflict there is the Muslims trying to deny and exterminate non-Muslims That Bishop/patriarch is not trying to do the same to them. I do not believe Joseph Smith was a prophet, but Mormons do and as a Catholic I would NEVER try to deny them their beliefs. Muslims never offer any symbol or act of ecumenicism. Never. They seek to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. And that is truly sad and criminal.
It’s not even a conflict of religions (Mohammad signed a treaty to allow for Christians to openly practice their faith - as shown on this video). This is just the Turkish government being corrupt and intentionally persecuting the oldest Christians on the planet
In Russia we are now free of the Communist yoke and Orthodox Church is the largest Religious Denomination! In Istanbul there is Bart the Pirate of the church who is out to make himself Orthodox Pope as a Greek i will never accept it unworthy is the heretic
May the Lord enlighten you. Here in Orthodoxy many wonders occur. Many people were cured by the Lord for the prayers of the saints, such as Nektarios of Aegina, who lived in the previous century and was really persecuted , Saint Ephraim of Nea Makri, who was killed by the ottomans in a tragic way.. and he showed himself after 500 years in the 1900s in a dream to a blessed nun and she dreamed the place where his relics were.(they were lost before), and since then many people were cured and enlightened. I really suggest you to visit Mount Athos in Greece, Aegina, Nea Makri, Souroti where is burried St Paisios the Athonite, Tessaloniki, to see the wonder of the Myrrh which bleeds from the relics of St Demetrius the Marthyr who did not want to become pagan, but rather die for Christ, in the first Christian centuries. And many wonders happen there, the Myrrh from the Saint bleeding from much time.. in Greece..
St. Paraskeva, St Demetrius in Romania, who was discovered in a similar way, when a really sick girl dreamed him and he told him about his rellics were burried somehow under a river. And after they were found, the girl was cured. But why do these miracles happen? Because these people came close to God, they experienced theosis, communion with the Lord. And you know, if you want to see a tree, you must go you personally near the tree or you must believe those who saw it eith their eyes. May the Lord enlighten you! May the Most-Holy Mother of Our Lord protect you and enlgihten you and show you the path! Best wishes.
Nothing is wiped. It’s just the power-hungry Greeks and Armenians waffling about unrelated things to keep their land claims alive. Christ knows that. And I know that accusations to Turkey are only the miserable reality of Greece and Armenia’s lack of education and experience. They know what happened when they tried to invade a piece of land in 1922. Much worser things will happen if they even dare again.
God bless patriarch Bartholomew of the orthodox church
Kind of shocking that they let you there. 🙌🌿
Religion is supposed to UNITE, not DIVIDE. God bless us all!
may all the muslims be converted to the True Faith and the Orthodox & Catholic Churches reunite!
Confused folks
Hell no
@@hassychilly9375worship your three gods one God whatever lol. Confusion 🎉
To all faithful Orthodox Christians, Bartholomew is absolutely not second to the roman pope.
@@ILovesjesus. the greeks were there way before the romans. The romans followed afterwards. The greeks created the byzantine empire the romans followed they didnt create an empire.
Refer to Saint Paisios & Saint Cosmas’ prophesies. Constantinople is prophesied to head back to its motherland with the help of Russia. God bless. 🙏🏻
Hello sir I want to join orthodox Christianity
As a Muslim all I needed to defend this bishop with my own life is that one letter from my prophet Muhammad (SAW). I DON'T KNOW WHY TURKEY IS TURNING BLIND ON THAT LETTER.
It's important you come to Christ in Rome
@muise alimoideen: I appreciate your statement, sir, and I believe that you're on the way to Heaven, even as Muslim (-from Christian perspective), as long you truly follow your God, in the right way, which is the way of love and goodness.
@@vickvickson4273 we don't think Christians who worship man will go to heaven at all. They must stop worshiping man other than Allah.
@@alireact1827 Your last sentence is wrong, God is not a man. But no-one of us humans has ever seen God, since we are only humans and "he" is God. EXACTLY IN ORDER FOR US HUMANS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TRUE RELATION WITH GOD AND TO BE ABLE TO BE CLEAN- AND HOLY ENOUGH IN FRONT OF GOD, God decided to INCARNATE as a human, as a God-Man (-Jesus) and take all the sins of humans on Himself and thus eliminate ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING which separates us humans from being with God (being Holy AND EVEN HAVING GOD'S NATURE). So, by accepting Son of God (-by faith, ONLY faith that He is who he claimed that He is, i.e. Son of God and ONE WITH FATHER GOD, only faith in that is enough and justifies/accuses a man in the eyes of God) any human gets saved and will be with God in heaven. And any OTHER things, like praying 6 times a day, eating this and not that, is NOTHING (not enough) in the eyes of God and even UGLINESS in front of God (-if one practice ONLY that and if one lives AFTER the time of Jesus being here on earth), since it ignores THE SUFFERING AND VICTORY (RESURRECTION) of His Son (whom He sent for us and for justification of OUR sins).
So, at least according to Christianity, hell will be full of people who didn't want to accept Christ during their lives, while many of these people performed all religious commandments of their religion (Judaism, Islam, Hinduism,...), at least if they HEARD about Christ (but have spontaneously chosen NOT to believe in Him).
Imagine that you're a father who sent your only son to some far away village to help people there. Some of villagers accepted your son and his glory, while others beated him. Wouldn't THAT (-their attitude to your son) be the MAIN criteria for your attitude to THEM (not how well they performed other things)? That's Christianity, my friend. You don't need to even lift a spoon in order to be justified in front of God, but you have to BELIEVE in it and RESPECT it and GLORIFY it (in true happiness) since He (-Got Father, God Son and The Holy Spirit) did all the job and suffering for you and instead of you, out of pure LOVE for you (just don't ignore that love). That's why Apostle John says "God is love", and this love and mercy is open to EVERYONE. It's FREE but it's not CHEAP at all (it's payed with great suffering and sacrifice of God, for our sake).
@@vickvickson4273 To be honest with you i stopped the moment you said jesus dieid for our sins.What are we created for if a man took our sins. What is our goal on this planet. To drink alchol, have sex. make childrens, make money is that all we are created for. NOO. W e are created for to worship god alone just like jesus was created to worship Allah alone. You must stop this paul words and follow correct teaching of jesus.
Catholic here. We pray and hope that the Eastern Orthodox Churches may be free.
They are free lol.
We don't see him as our 'pope,' he is first among equals.
The country and name Turkey is less than 100 years old (1924).
Before 1924 it was named Ottoman Empire, Byzantine Empire and Roman Empire (1700 years).
The Region was known by various names in the past and the Greek prefer the old name of Mikra Asia (Small Asia). Asia was a Greek goddess ! Just like Europa !
And all important monuments in Turkey today are Greek, Armenian and Persian.
THANK YOU! FACTS!
There was no Byzantine Empire. It was just the Roman Empire that had a new capital and officially adopted the language of the educated and prestigious, Greek. Remember Greek was always language of the Romans since the inception of the empire, it was more or less the lingua franca of the Romans since they in the East solely speak Greek, and Roman Emperors had to speak Greek and Latin.
If you deny and continue to call the Greek-speaking Romans "Byzantines", you are still carrying on the lies of a German historian who coined the term in the 16th Century CE just for the sake justifying the name of the Holy Roman Empire, a German Empire that was neither holy nor ROMAN as Voltaire would say.
Condemnant quo non intellegunt...
Jd Pv wow.... By order of the Vatican eh? The rebellious Roman High Priest who simply wanted to claim the legitimacy of the Roman Empire. What is wrong with you people? Still stuck with the lies. The Roman Empire fell in 1453. THERE WAS NO ROMANO-MACEDONIAN EMPIRE. You and your fantasies! Popish sympathisers, always fantasising that the Empire fell in 476! Why can’t you can’t accept that it was the Roman Empire? Greece was simply a part of it?! What was Greece back then?? We could simply call it Roman Greece in the Medieval Period. Just like Germany and Italy, there was no Germany nor Italy till the 19th Century! They were part of different kingdoms and empires back then: Papal States, Holy Roman Empire, Kingdom of Sicily, Republic of Venice, etc.! Nuff said.
Actually that’s technically incorrect. While the main language of Constantinople was Greek, it was founded by Romans (Constantine the Great) for Romans, whose inhabitants only called themselves Roman.
From 324 - 1453, it was only ever called the “Roman Empire” or more specifically the “Eastern Roman Empire”, until the Ottoman Empire (Turkish empire) conquered the heart of the empire, Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) in 1453.
The term “Byzantium” or “Byzantine Empire” was actually only coined in 1557, 104 years after the Empire’s collapse, in an attempt to wrongly separate the Roman Empire from Julius Caesar and Augustus from the continuation of their empire by Constantine the Great (when he shifted the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Constantinople).
I’m not Italian nor Greek, but I think it’s important to not claim a deceased empire’s legacy as your own. The Roman Empire’s achievements are theirs and theirs alone, and their descendants are scattered across much of modern Europe
@@kevingutierrez9273 well said. For anyone reading, please read my comment in addition to Kevin’s. He’s covered the history of the term “Byzantium” and the reason why the Eastern Roman Empire spoke Greek incredibly well
made me cry ....
The progression of the Sees of Jerusalem (first Patriarch was St. James the Just, step-brother of Christ), Antioch (first Patriarch was St. Peter), Alexandria (first Patriarch was St. Mark), Rome (first Patriarch was St. Peter), and finally Constantinople (first Patriarch was St. Anatolius). Under the Ottoman empire the See of Constantinople was subjugated under the Sultan, therefore it was not free to select their own leaders as the other Sees were. Islam still repress the Christians to this day.
Sad but very, very true. The Ecumenical Patriarch can’t leave Constantinople/Instanbul, as his predecessor must be chosen from this city.
It’s ironic and incredibly unfortunate that historically the most powerful Christian patriarch (ie, from 324-1453 - being the closest to the Roman Emperor), who has been oppressed by the Turks since 1453, is now being persecuted and forced out by a Turkey’s PM who wants Sharia Law but doesn’t follow Muhammad’s principles (ie, freedom of religion for Christians)
How can Turkey go against Mohammad's own words?
We must remember our Christian brothers wherever they are. Pope Francis has opened the Catholic Church to the Orthodox. The Orthodox are our brethren. I pray for them.
Orthodox faith is the only truth faith my brother.older than katholicism..putin karolos of england and many others important persons are orthodox christians..
@@ΝικολαοςΚαρφης Exactly, we Greeks were the FIRST Catholic and Apostolic church, the Romans were Greeks...and there was NO schism. Watch the video "The Great Schism: did it even really happen? by Metropolitan Pavlos Stratigeas, on the channel: Greek Orthodox Christian Television. BEST explanation ever, and no Catholics know this, they insist WE broke away....
@@ΝικολαοςΚαρφης Council of Constantinople I
“The bishop of Constantinople shall have the primacy of honor after the bishop of Rome, because his city is New Rome” (canon 3 [A.D. 381]).
@@ΝικολαοςΚαρφης Augustine
“There are many other things which rightly keep me in the bosom of the Catholic Church. The consent of the people and nations keeps me, her authority keeps me, inaugurated by miracles, nourished in hope, enlarged by love, and established by age. The succession of priests keep me, from the very seat of the apostle Peter (to whom the Lord after his resurrection gave charge to feed his sheep) down to the present episcopate [of Pope Siricius]” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 5 [A.D. 397]).
“[On this matter of the Pelagians] two councils have already been sent to the Apostolic See [the bishop of Rome], and from there rescripts too have come. The matter is at an end; would that the error too might be at an end!” (Sermons 131:10 [A.D. 411]).
@@spartanmoon Council of Chalcedon
“Bishop Paschasinus, guardian of the Apostolic See, stood in the midst [of the Council Fathers] and said, ‘We received directions at the hands of the most blessed and apostolic bishop of the Roman city [Pope Leo I], who is the head of all the churches, which directions say that Dioscorus is not to be allowed to sit in the [present] assembly, but that if he should attempt to take his seat, he is to be cast out. This instruction we must carry out” (Acts of the Council, session 1 [A.D. 451]).
“After the reading of the foregoing epistle [The Tome of Leo], the most reverend bishops cried out: ‘This is the faith of the fathers! This is the faith of the apostles! So we all believe! Thus the orthodox believe! Anathema to him who does not thus believe! Peter has spoken thus through Leo!’” (ibid., session 2).
"Since the beginning of what?" Of Christianity.
Claiming that "the Patriarch is second only to the Pope" is like claiming that "the Queen of England is second only to Meghan Markle".
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We do not look to him as our Pope. We look to the Ecumenical Patriarch in the same way Anglicans look up to the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Second to the Pope? Let's say we were not broken in half. The Patriarch is higher than the Bishop. Why is the Pope still called the Bishop of Rome? In ancient Christianity, the Patriarch from Constantinople created and named the Bishop of Rome. The autonomy of the papal throne does not come from any ancient right. The first disloyal bishop of Rome called himself pope. This was the mistake that broke the church. The need for power and the cunning personality of the so-called man of god. This is a history lesson! Don't take it as hateful. But it's the Truth.
Second only to the pope? The pope is second to him.
When was this aired?
Dena looks like 2009
www.cbsnews.com/news/patriarch-bartholomew-feels-crucified-17-12-2009/
2nd to pope? Bullshit! He ain't second to none!
When was the formal title of Pope first officially bestowed on the Bishops of Rome?
Calling clergy “father” (Gk, papa) probably originates as a title of respect for the monastery abbot in Egypt, sometime in the early 200s. Even the title abbot comes from the Aramaic abba, which means father. The terms were probably interchangeable depending on the language being spoken.
It is soon adapted for use when addressing bishops - the pastoral leader of a diocese, parallel to the abbot of a monastery. The first bishop to be addressed as “papa” or “pope” is the bishop of Alexandria, about 240.
For those wondering, the Ecumenical Patriarch (ie, this man) is the head of all Orthodox Christians (Greeks, Serbs, Ukrainians, Romania, etc) who has lived in Constantinople/Istanbul for over 1700 years (ie, since the Bible was created and before Turkey existed). To discriminate and treat this man in this way is such a monumental insult to all Christians, let alone Orthodox Christians, that Turkey should be beyond ashamed. For a country that is trying to reintroduce Sharia Law, it’s incredibly ironic that they’re not even trying to respect Mohammad’s teachings (who preached and signed a letter if religious tolerance) by forcing out and effectively eradicating the oldest group of Christians in the world
well said. This was and always will be Greek land. The romans only followed the greeks because they loved the greek culture so much. The Turks can believe what they want but the Greeks will always say 'Always was and always will be Greek land'.
1800 years of civilization and history lies in the holy city of Constantinople
“Second to the pope” 😂
Excellent!
This has to be an old interview.... No way would all those people be gathered together for Easter this year.
It is. I remember seeing this interview a long time ago.
This is from 2009
Bartholomew freed Ukraine out of Moscow burden. God bless him.
The schismatics recognized by Bart were free from "Moscow burden" anyway. Istanbul pope has betrayed the true Ukrainian Orthodox Church under Met. Onuphry and created a conflict which will last for many decades if not centuries.
@@holger3943 you're deluded
@@tobyroyparkerjr.233 don't think so.
Um hello? Get those manuscripts and books to a safe place ASAP.
Send Mr."Vlakas" and his geek stupid friends to prison !!
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Don't know about it never herd about it
They should be digitized.
They're in the safest place they could be. That monastery has been there for almost 1500 years.
There are only 2000 or so Greeks left in Turkey. Every other Orthodox country has a massive cathedral and it's own administration now including Russia, Romania, Serbia and Bulgaria. Greece needs to move the Patriarchate to Athens or Thessaloniki and build a cathedral that is so massive it makes Hagia Sophia look like a hut.
Just like Christ and the Apostles did, right? Oh wait, they didn't.
@@chronos401 there's no point to your comment. Every single Christian faith including the Eastern Orthodox has big cathedrals. Greece needs a replacement for Hagia Sophia, something the Russians, Romanians, Serbians etc., have already accepted and therefore built massive churches.
@@bozeeke Yes build one bigger than ever. Thenyou can shame the Turks for what they have done.
What do you mean second to the pope? He is head of an Orthodox patriarchy. He is not like the Roman pope who is a schismatic
This man is an oecumenist, that's why. Only then it makes sense. A threat to the church.
To be clear, Patriarch Bartholomew is not “second only to the pope,” even in numbers. ALL ancient episcopal Churches-Catholic or Orthodox, East or West, and even some Protestants (or reformed Catholics, as some prefer) like Anglicans, etc.- recognize the pope as the bishop of Rome and the Eastern patriarchs, including Bartholomew. Roman Catholics, of course, claim a primacy of authority for the pope, while Orthodox, Anglo-Catholics, etc. typically consider the bishops equal in authority if not always in historical or actual prominence, with many Anglicans triangulating authority of tradition, scripture, and reason more liberally. Lesser known to American Protestants doesn’t mean lesser in importance globally among Christians.
Lets get one thing straight here. Orthodox Christianity dates back to the days that Christ lived (the day of Pentecost was when the orthodox church was formed.) The catholic church was formed in 1054. The Patriarche is the spiritual leader of the Orthodox church. Sure there are other patriarches in other countries. But Patriarche Bartholomew is the prime leader. He is above the pope. Seeing that the orthodox church was formed waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the catholic...it only make sense that he is above the pope. Now many ppl wont agree with this..but all you need to do is read about it. Get your facts straight.
The Church in Rome was established by the Apostles and it carries the memories of the martyrdom of St. Peter and Paul and consecrated by the witness of countless other martyrs.
@@melroycorrea7720 The church in Rome was turned into a gate for devils to destroy the Church of The Holy Trinity. It remained just "Catholic" by name as it's lost its ortho-doxy.
He is not the prime leader and not above the pope. Orthodoxy has got nothing to do with heretics such as the catholics. This man is an oecumenist however and he wants to unite with catholics. 😢
There is a power greater than man's and all that man has built that offends God will be brought to dust and the righteous order will be restored in this world, and those who have suffered will see justice!
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God Bless all
If we were to unite all the Apostolic Churches, maybe then we would have some leverage to continue our presence in these Biblical lands.
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"Its has if Rome closed its college of cardinals ".....
What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, the next Ecumenical Patriarch must be chosen from a college of cardinals (effectively) in Istanbul, which has now been banned. They’re practically banning the next Orthodox Pope, whose position has existed for over 1,700 years
Correction: the Christians were first named as Christians in Antioch Syria and the four Gospels were not all written in Turkey.
He and his Church has been vilified not just by his government as implied in this story, but also by major Orthodox churches , where he has been excommunicated. He speaks briefly with reserved suffering conviction, and his circumstances will give him an appreciation of human oppression throughout the world first hand.
Can you please explain more. I'm new to Eastern Orthodoxy, coming from a Protestant background.
He is not excommunicated. The Russian archbishop has issues with him because he granted autocephaly to Ukraine.
see what islam did to constantilope (now turkey) they occupied our christian land shame on islam
This video is full of inaccuracy. He is not a pope of Orthodox Church or leader of Orthodox Church. There is no pope (as some dictator) of Orthodox Church.
Should have at LEAST done your research ! Never have I listened to a such BAD REPORTING. Was it paid for?
They are the minority but you do not see them doing allahu akhbar things. Now compare it to countries where muslims are the minority.
Incredible!
But he has the honor of being the first among equals, which does not mean that he leads everything or that he asks everything. Because in the Orthodox Church, everything is at the council level.
ANATHEMA!!!! HE IS NOT SECOND TO THE POPE ATT ALLLLLLL ANATHEMA!!!!!! ps. his holiness bart cant wait to see u in syd (:
The four horsemen are of great importance. Asspecially the fouth .
"If you feel like a second class citizen as a Greek then why don't you just go to Greece?". Q: Has a TV reporter ever suggested to a non European (complaining about 'islamophobia', or racism ) that they just go live in a different country?
10:00 😮
He does not have papal supremacy. There are other patriarchs. Anyways, thank you for the interview
All Greeks know Christianity spread through greek language in modern day Turkey
Exactly
The “peaceful Muslims” yeah right.
"One of the most important Christian leaders, second only to the Pope."
Ugh... and in only the first 8 seconds too.
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Death, resurrection and ascension* of Jesus Christ...
Since The Resurrection of Christ.
Interviewer: "if your treated as second class citizens, why don't you go to Greece?" I wonder if he would ask that to other people's that are being mistreated in the country in which they are residing.
It’s discriminatory. Christ’s Church has been there for thousands of years, long before the Muslims. I’m not even Orthodox, I’m Catholic. Catholics do believe that Orthodox Priests have the power to Consecrate the Leavened Bread and Wine into the Most Holy Body and Most Precious Blood of Christ. It makes me angry that followers of Christ are so discriminated against especially in the Middle East. Christ is God on earth. The Muslim gods don’t have power. They think that Jesus is a “Prophet.” No, he is God. He created the one Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church something that Catholic, Orthodox, and most Protestants believe in. Islam is false. I really don’t care if I get harassed for saying this, I really don’t. It’s a shame, and those who discriminate against the one true God and his followers should repent. I will pray for their conversion.
The Patriarch of Constantinople is not "second only" to the Pope or anybody else. He is the Ecumenical Patriarch and first among equals of all the Orthodox Patriarchs. The Pope is second only to His All-Holiness. Of course, I wouldn't expect an American to be intelligent enough to understand that.
Idea vs idea
Jesus is the head not either of these guys haha