Goji berry is from China. I am Chinese and growing both of them so I know exactly what the difference is and that totally explains what you tasted. Lycium Barbarum has narrow and pointy leaves. The fruits are edible and sweet which are used for Chinese herb medicine. All the dried goji berries you can find on the market are this one. On the other hand, Lycium Chinense has broad or oval leaves which the leaves are used for soup or stir fried but not the fruit. Because we cut the branches or stems while green, which means tender, so they don't get the chance to produce fruits. In short, we eat fruit from Lycium Barbarum and leaves/stems from Lycium Chinense.
ross raddi + eric yu ...i read the chinese one is better for health because bitter medicine has those,powerful alkaloids. I love the sweet ones which reminds me of sweet iced tea but personal experience with very bitter herbs that are powerful healers like neem Leaf juice or methi powder has me looking for the sinensis ones that I cannot find anywhere around here
Many think goji berry and equate it to fruit like strawberry or blueberry but it is more like a super-charged tomato in flavor. Very small amounts are needed to see a health benefit. After 3 days I noticed my vision was color enhanced! But after eating a small handful a day for 3 days I discovered a cautionary tip the berries are blood thinning and for me caused broken blood vessels and pain for a few days each time I tried to add them to my daily diet. I have seen as I research that they are used in much smaller amounts by the Orientals who understand the goji's power. A few berries in a cup of tea are the norm or a handful in a huge pot of soup.
Growing goji berry young shoots as spring green was recorded in Tang Dynasty's medical text book. These species are for green not their berries. The big leaves are good for stir fry. You can add it into scramble eggs or quiche. Just be aware that it is in the nightshade family.
I have a Goji Sweet Amber, which is Yellow or Amber in color. It tastes awesome and no bitterness, i looked it up, its also a Lycium Barbarum. I am making cuttings/clones this year if anybody is interested ;-)
Mine look just like the Chinense. They grow like crazy in their second year and are spreading everywhere like a vine. They are a little bitter and not enjoyable fresh. BUT, I found that after drying them in a solar dehydrator, they taste just fine. Beautiful little crimson berries just like in the store.
Bill Coulam I'm telling you I read that the bitter ones.. the Chinese ones ARE the ones you want for the health..the more BITTER the more ALKALOIDS for healing.. ... I wish I could get them ..I've only had the ones that taste like sweet iced tea but I have health issues ; so I'm looking for the bitter ones which I can't seem to find anywhere here in the North Dallas Texas area
@@RossRaddiit's 6 years later. How are they now? Did you get the drying part worked out si they tasted like dried goji berries from the store? I have tried drying in the oven and a old crappy dehydrator and as well as drying over the winter in my garage and nothing turns out like the store bought. I'm now trying g some in a pan in my car in the sin hoping this is the secret. Maybe it's the variety I have which I'm not sure of. .
Ross I have a sweet lifeberry and my understanding is it is also barbarum like the Crimson star but a different cultivar. They thrive in winterhaven fl which as zone 9b would not be suitable for the chinensis variety. They are sweet if you leave them red on the vine a few weeks. I think maybe you got a mislabeled plant which contributes to the misinformation problem. You have a Chinense sold as a sweet lifeberry.
There's a reason they taste like a pepper. Goji is in the same family as peppers and tomatoes. The tomato hornworm caterpillar will eat the plant to the ground.
I know this is a super old video, but you should look into that black goji berry that recently popped into American markets! I think Baker Creek sells seeds, they're supposed to be a lot sweeter in flavor. My guess is they probably taste closer to black nightshade than tomato but idk 🤷
It seems that a lot of nurseries do not understand the difference between L. barbarum and L chinense with the two being sold interchangeably as goji berries. I agree that L. chinense makes horrible tasting fruit so it's a shame when I see it being sold as a fruit when in reality it is meant to be grown as a leafy vegetable.
I also have the sweet life berry, and i agree they are not what i expected. What I do now tho is dry them and when i make tomato sauce or pasta sauce i toss them in there bc to me they tasted of tomatoes. Waste not want not i guess lol
How do these compare to dried gojiberries you get at the store in terms of sweetness? I have read you need to let the berries stay on the vine until they are sweet, which doesn't happen as soon as they turn red, but takes some time. 🌱
Eric Yu, you mentioned that Lycium Chinense has broad or oval leaves which the leaves are used for soup or stir fried ! Are the goji berries still edible ! Many of the Goji berry p[lants are Lycium Chinense in nurseries / markets. I have been trying " unsuccessfully " to plant the Ningxia / Qinghai Goji berries. How to get the Lycium Barbarum cuttings. Where are you station / living now ? TQVM Eric Yu
go to nearest china town, find a china herbs store. u will find goji berry there with the name Gouji ( use google translate to help with pronounciation). coz goji berry is one of must have ingredient in many china herbs recipes
LMAO.My neighbor works for a greenhouse so she has the necessary material to grow seeds with an insanely high germination rate. She currently has over 300 6 inch lycium ruthenicum in her greenhouse and doesn't know what to do with them.
Thanks so much for all the information on Goji berry, the picture of the fruits look so good, But I have never had any before, therefore, I really don't know what it tastes like, just the good looks of the fruits, I almost bought the plant to try, but then, change my mind because I'm determined not to buy anything that I don't know nothing about, and now I know from watching your video. So, thank you again so much for the info.
I tried growing this plant once got it of QVCuk it produced its berries and I found them too taste ughhhhhy , it grew like crazy in the garden and never produced berries again dug it up and threw it compost bin .
Si. Las dos se pueden consumir. Su savor es un poco extraño para este tipo de fruta. Sabe a una cruz entre jitomate y chile. No es lo que uno espera de esta frutilla.
Dude, that whole none of them tastes good even birds don't like them, that was my experience with Barbados cherries! I ended up with bugs swarming them and selling it for cheap to a guy from out of town. I feel your pain.
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Goji berry is from China. I am Chinese and growing both of them so I know exactly what the difference is and that totally explains what you tasted. Lycium Barbarum has narrow and pointy leaves. The fruits are edible and sweet which are used for Chinese herb medicine. All the dried goji berries you can find on the market are this one. On the other hand, Lycium Chinense has broad or oval leaves which the leaves are used for soup or stir fried but not the fruit. Because we cut the branches or stems while green, which means tender, so they don't get the chance to produce fruits. In short, we eat fruit from Lycium Barbarum and leaves/stems from Lycium Chinense.
Very interesting, Eric. What do the stems/leaves taste like?
Sorry Ross, my English is not good enough to describe the taste in details. Overall it is a bit close to spinach when stir fried.
Eric Yu Thanks for the info, Eric. Great stuff.
ross raddi
+ eric yu ...i read the chinese one is better for health because bitter medicine has those,powerful alkaloids.
I love the sweet ones which reminds me of sweet iced tea but personal experience with very bitter herbs that are powerful healers like neem Leaf juice or methi powder has me looking for the sinensis ones that I cannot find anywhere around here
eric yu.
"What the hell does that taste like?!" HAHA my sentiment exactly. Great video!
Many think goji berry and equate it to fruit like strawberry or blueberry but it is more like a super-charged tomato in flavor. Very small amounts are needed to see a health benefit. After 3 days I noticed my vision was color enhanced! But after eating a small handful a day for 3 days I discovered a cautionary tip the berries are blood thinning and for me caused broken blood vessels and pain for a few days each time I tried to add them to my daily diet. I have seen as I research that they are used in much smaller amounts by the Orientals who understand the goji's power. A few berries in a cup of tea are the norm or a handful in a huge pot of soup.
Growing goji berry young shoots as spring green was recorded in Tang Dynasty's medical text book. These species are for green not their berries. The big leaves are good for stir fry. You can add it into scramble eggs or quiche. Just be aware that it is in the nightshade family.
I have a Goji Sweet Amber, which is Yellow or Amber in color. It tastes awesome and no bitterness, i looked it up, its also a Lycium Barbarum. I am making cuttings/clones this year if anybody is interested ;-)
if your clones work out, i'd love to get one.
or a cutting.
were you successful with your clones? are they available now? (faromarashi@gmail.com)
I'm interested in some cuttings
Trapper871@gmail.com
Mine look just like the Chinense. They grow like crazy in their second year and are spreading everywhere like a vine. They are a little bitter and not enjoyable fresh. BUT, I found that after drying them in a solar dehydrator, they taste just fine. Beautiful little crimson berries just like in the store.
Bill Coulam
I'm telling you I read that the bitter ones.. the Chinese ones ARE the ones you want for the health..the more BITTER the more ALKALOIDS for healing..
... I wish I could get them ..I've only had the ones that taste like sweet iced tea but I have health issues ; so I'm looking for the bitter ones which I can't seem to find anywhere here in the North Dallas Texas area
@@gardensofthegods i have the chinense and i like the taste of the leaves raw fruit not sweet
@@abrahambarit8518 ok thanks
lol i laughed my arse off when you were talking about the birds not wanting them and spitting them out :)
torpa15😂me too!
Epson salts can sweeten the fruit.
Baking soda works very well also.
how?
my berry are sweet with intense bitterness
I just have one plant this spring. Hopefully, will have more berries like yours!
Dry berries are really good for health. Special eyes!!
They usually fruit their first year. I up-potted my Crimson Star and it's taking off! Can't wait to taste some dried in the dehydrator.
KevinLee Hung iii
@@RossRaddiit's 6 years later. How are they now? Did you get the drying part worked out si they tasted like dried goji berries from the store?
I have tried drying in the oven and a old crappy dehydrator and as well as drying over the winter in my garage and nothing turns out like the store bought. I'm now trying g some in a pan in my car in the sin hoping this is the secret. Maybe it's the variety I have which I'm not sure of. .
Ross I have a sweet lifeberry and my understanding is it is also barbarum like the Crimson star but a different cultivar. They thrive in winterhaven fl which as zone 9b would not be suitable for the chinensis variety. They are sweet if you leave them red on the vine a few weeks. I think maybe you got a mislabeled plant which contributes to the misinformation problem. You have a Chinense sold as a sweet lifeberry.
Perhaps! But everything I've read online states that Sweet Lifeberry is Lycium Chinense, Robert. Who knows.. Just glad to have Crimson Star.
There's a reason they taste like a pepper. Goji is in the same family as peppers and tomatoes. The tomato hornworm caterpillar will eat the plant to the ground.
I know this is a super old video, but you should look into that black goji berry that recently popped into American markets! I think Baker Creek sells seeds, they're supposed to be a lot sweeter in flavor. My guess is they probably taste closer to black nightshade than tomato but idk 🤷
I’m still traumatized. If you find out that you enjoy them, let me know.
@@RossRaddi Will do 😂 I've only had them underripe and Lycium chinense not barbarum!
Could you explain your water setup? What are those lines running over your plants? Thanks!
Thanks for the heads up. What kind of texture do they have?
That was really helpful, i had to laugh when you talked about the bird spitting out the berry.
Are you planning on transplanting? Also what do you use to fertilize and how often? Thanks so much!
They'll definitely go in ground when I have more room. Right now I have two plants each in a 10 gallon pot.
It seems that a lot of nurseries do not understand the difference between L. barbarum and L chinense with the two being sold interchangeably as goji berries. I agree that L. chinense makes horrible tasting fruit so it's a shame when I see it being sold as a fruit when in reality it is meant to be grown as a leafy vegetable.
I would love to get my hands on a L.Chinense. Mind telling me where you saw this plant?
@@danielmark8774 I got mine from a friend. I'm working on propagating more.
Recommended dose is 5 per day, not a handful.
MBM i ate 2 hands full nothing happened there is no recommended dose bro 🤘🏼
I also have the sweet life berry, and i agree they are not what i expected. What I do now tho is dry them and when i make tomato sauce or pasta sauce i toss them in there bc to me they tasted of tomatoes. Waste not want not i guess lol
Sweet Lifeberry® is officially listed also as a Lycium barbarum; any ideas?
How do these compare to dried gojiberries you get at the store in terms of sweetness? I have read you need to let the berries stay on the vine until they are sweet, which doesn't happen as soon as they turn red, but takes some time. 🌱
Do you have this plants for sale ? I want to buy some, please let me know. ( I live in Arizona USA)
Got some cuttings, but idk if they are chinense or barbarum
Eric Yu, you mentioned that Lycium Chinense has broad or oval leaves which the leaves are used for soup or stir fried ! Are the goji berries still edible ! Many of the Goji berry p[lants are Lycium Chinense in nurseries / markets. I have been trying " unsuccessfully " to plant the Ningxia / Qinghai Goji berries. How to get the Lycium Barbarum cuttings. Where are you station / living now ? TQVM Eric Yu
go to nearest china town, find a china herbs store. u will find goji berry there with the name Gouji ( use google translate to help with pronounciation). coz goji berry is one of must have ingredient in many china herbs recipes
The other looks like the leaf plant that you supposed eat the leaves (cook) instead of fruit
They grow pretty well from seeds too.
LMAO.My neighbor works for a greenhouse so she has the necessary material to grow seeds with an insanely high germination rate. She currently has over 300 6 inch lycium ruthenicum in her greenhouse and doesn't know what to do with them.
How long does it take to produce fruit grown from seed ? How many years?
These are both Lycium barbarum plants.
Thanks so much for all the information on Goji berry, the picture of the fruits look so good, But I have never had any before, therefore, I really don't know what it tastes like, just the good looks of the fruits, I almost bought the plant to try, but then, change my mind because I'm determined not to buy anything that I don't know nothing about, and now I know from watching your video. So, thank you again so much for the info.
You're welcome, Chinda! To me they kind of taste like sweet peppers.
Chinda, try to find them in china town, any china herbs store sell this, known as Gouqi
I tried growing this plant once got it of QVCuk it produced its berries and I found them too taste ughhhhhy , it grew like crazy in the garden and never produced berries again dug it up and threw it compost bin .
That's exactly where my Lycium Chinense went.
+Ross Raddi - did you try eating the young leaves?
Hi guys I am aman form India, I want to know use of lycium barbarum and how it's recipe prepared?
esa fruta es similar a una especie que hay en santa cruz , argentina, llamada Yaoyin o lycium chilense, las que mostras en el video son comestibles?
Si. Las dos se pueden consumir. Su savor es un poco extraño para este tipo de fruta. Sabe a una cruz entre jitomate y chile. No es lo que uno espera de esta frutilla.
Damn it, I just bought a goji berry plant too lmfao should’ve watched this video earlier
Idek what type of goji berries they were , ehh
Dude, that whole none of them tastes good even birds don't like them, that was my experience with Barbados cherries! I ended up with bugs swarming them and selling it for cheap to a guy from out of town. I feel your pain.
what about Phoenix Tears?
Cutting or seed grown???
Tina English they are very easy to propagate from cutting.
I find the taste awful. my kids eat them so I grow them. Phoenix tears are somewhat less nasty. high ph is required to make mine thrive
They're in the pepper family I recently found out. Makes sense.
Im so distraught I bought a Chinese
Young leaves or all stages?