I am a V85TT owner myself and I am completely satisfied. I have been with her on long journeys through Europe. The power of the engine is perfectly sufficient and on the off-road trails I could always easily control it. I have a lot of fun with her and for me she is fantastically beautiful.
👍 So great to hear that you are enjoying your V85TT so much and have also got some great use out of her. It definitely feels like one of those bikes that one could fall in love with, very unique. Cheers
Let's also remember what it does NOT have: No radiator, no coolant, no water pump, no hoses, no hose clamps. Less weight, fewer parts, simplified maintenance. Maybe moderate horsepower motorcycles are like a tube amplifiers: it is better to have a lower wattage that you use more of, than a higher wattage amp that rarely just turned up.
As a 40 year rider, this bike is my best purchase ever. My last 3 bikes were all between 110-160 hp, yet I wonder why I ever needed it after buying the Guzzi. Being able to flat foot it is huge for me, at 5 foot 9 . I am installing 50/50 tires this winter, as I have been thrashing it about on trails as much as the stock rubber allows. A major change after 2020, The 2021 and up V85tt has tubeless spoked rims, and a different tune on the engine. They had teething pains such as overfilling of the shaft lube, an easy fix, but most have been solid. The new verions also have 5 riding modes as well. The best thing?....seeing people walk by superbikes and halo adv bikes, in order to take pics and ask questions about the "Little Guzzi That Could"......
I feel like the character from the Guzzi's makes up for the loss in power! Also as you say a nice sized adventure bike as well, not too tall for us normal sized folk. Yes like the tubeless spoked rims, useful addition and look great as well. Completely agree, it is such a unique looking bike. Superbikes get boring after a while, always nice to have something different. Great to hear you are enjoying it. Cheers
I have had young kids on their sport bikes stop in my driveway and ask to take pictures of my Travel. In the U.S. the Travel came with the side cases with the top case as an option.
I own a 20 year old BMW with almost the exact horsepower and torque specs as the V85. It is absolutely enough power for anything you need unless you are going to the track, or have a death wish or a desire to go to prison. It is all the usable power you need.
I am a guzzi rider myself. After owned all brands of bikes through the years, I got catches completely by Moto Guzzi. Quite simple, you like a guzzi or you don’t. It has a character of it’s own. If you ride an older guzzi, you might come into technics by doing maintenance yourself (which I started to like). Guzzi’s always bring you home 😉. For me it became much more of a traveling pall than my other bikes.
Absolutely, very much a marmite bike! Yes great for DIY work etc... which is brilliant for learning more about a bike, which is hard to do on most modern bikes. Cheers
@@redangrevival I thought I absolutely knew how to ride a bike. A rude ‘wake up moment’ when I dived deep(er) into the wider knowledge of bike technology. It is fundamentally important to understand what is happening inside the engine, with the frame, gearbox etc. Especially when you ride a guzzi, it is quite important that you understand what is happening between the clutch and back wheel to chose the right revs in combination with the appropriate gear. A guzzi might be a bit unforgiving if you choose wrong. Riding a bike is quite different than transport yourself in a car.
I ride a 2020 adventure and it is everything a bmw is and everything it's not. It's a stable comfortable ride that is great for commuting and loves the back roads and twisty roads. Its simple and easy to ride and work on. Great bike for the older rider that doesn't need 135 hp. V85TT is my forever bike. It is agricultural and simple, doesn't have lots of plastic and electronics. My Bella Rose loves to get dirty and I don't have to polish her. Every time I ride I smile ear to ear. V85TT is a middle weight winner like no other. Ride safe Ride free friend.
“Adventuring in style” sums it up. Great looking, mechanical, somewhat heavy, comfortable, all characteristics of bikes that appeal to me. I’m done tearing up the road, I just ride and like a little heavier, planted bike. 👍 time to brave the colder weather, take a ride and lift my spirits as well !
👍 It is such a unique design, especially for an adventure bike! Perfect for not ripping up the road, you don't have to go fast on this bike to feel its character. Can be daunting to get out in the winter, but (especially when its cold) I find I always feel better afterwards. Also find it improves my riding skills. Cheers and have a great ride.
I have a 21 Travel and I've covered 7000 miles so far, it's the least powerful bike I've ever owned but the most fun to ride. It has multiple ride modes but I've left it in Sport mode from day one and it's great fun in the twisties and country roads. It's a great bike.
I think the character more than makes up for any loss in power 👍 Not the most refined bike in the segment, but that is part of its charm. You don't always need speed to feel alive!
I've ridden many other bike brands but when I rode my first Moto Guzzi I fell for it's charm. I didn't end up buying one until the V85tt as the V7 and V9 were underpowered at the time (older model with smaller engine). The V85tt was so comfortable, looks great and a joy to ride that I bought one. Easy to work on yourself as well. It's a small SUV of the bike world with a do it all mentality. A year later I rode a Tuono 660 and fell in love again with the sport bike world and is my favorite sporty bike after owning and riding many other sports bikes. So Comfy and such a joy to ride. People don't need a v4 Tuono as the 660 is more than enough and less money but still has all the cool tech stuff. I've made a few of my own videos for fun on both bikes just to talk about the upgrades that were worth it to me.
Moto Guzzi's really do have such a unique charm and riding experience 👍 Some fall inb love with it and some are put off. I can definitely see the appeal. I personally find this V85TT even more unique than other models from Guzzi, as you say great for diy and learning about the bike etc... I really want to ride the Tuono 660, love the engine. Cheers
Traded my BMW F850GS for an MG V85TT. 6 gallon tank, shaft drive and a low CG did it for me. The lower rpm torque was an added bonus. Wish BMW made a R850GSA but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.
Sound like sound reasons for the trade 👍 A very different ride hoping on the V85TT! That visceral old school feel from that air cooled V-Twin, very different from the BMW. Hope you are enjoying your MG. Yes the shaft drive is a massive bonus I forgot to mention.
👍 love the bold looks Moto Guzzi have gone for with this bike, really stands out from the crowd. There is something very "solid" about the build quality which feels great on an adventure bike.
A very enjoyable review. I've always wanted a Guzzi. I'm 66 so it's been a long wait. But I have just bought a new Centenario model v85tt. One of the last ones as it is a 2021/2 model. I haven't picked it up yet but hopefully next week. I'm in Greece so we have lots of great twisty mountain roads here in Pelion.
Many thanks really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Congratulations on your new bike, I am sure you will love it and I am very jealous of the roads and weather you have out there! All the best
Good-looking bike. Love the air-cooled, transversely mounted V-twin. Interesting they now have cross-spoke wheels. I like the mechanical feel of it. Utilitarian bikes appeal to me. The weight should aid stability. I like the big double headlights. Shorter screens are better.
I think by what you describe you like in a bike then you would love this 👍 It really is a very mechanical ride, and full of character! Yes I agree think the large double headlights look great, a very interestingly designed bike.
I have never ridden a MG but there is a dealer in town and I’ve stopped by and looked them over before I even knew what they were. I’m adding a second bike later this year to the current ‘21 HD softail and even with all the options out there, I just can’t shake these Guzzi’s. They look amazing to me! This adv option has really peaked my interest. So far, it’s at the top of the list based simply on looks and character. Can’t wait to ride one!
👍 They are such cool and unique bikes. If you are after character then a Guzzi is a great way to go! The V85TT especially is so unique and different feeling ride. I think you won't be let down! Cheers
Another great review Angus. I think you summed up the whole Guzzi ‘vibe’ quite comprehensively. I have ridden a lot of Guzzis over the years and have come to this conclusion; I would love one if I had a motorcycle collection but wouldn’t want to ride one on a daily basis.
I bought a V85TT back in the summer - loved it's Guzzi charisma but decided I just couldn't live with it's agricultural engine which is strangled by poor fuelling to get it through Euro 5 - RedAng's review and comments are spot-on - it has a charm of it's own, well built quality bike and it's great that one is riding an adventure bike that isn't a GS ! I endured / moderately enjoyed a couple of thousand miles, and fitted a booster plug, K & N air filter and a less restrictive silencer to help with the poor fuelling and the bike was riding better as the miles increased - I decided that the V85TT was not for me long-term, so I sold it on and lost a lot of money !!
Thanks so much, glad you agree with my view on the bike 👍 It really is a unique bike, especially for an adventure bike! The looks and riding style are different to anything else. I agree the engine is agricultural and may lack some power for longer journeys. Sounds like you gave it a good go and good for you for sticking with it for at least a few thousand miles!! Part of motorcycling, every now and then we have to take risks to find the ideal bike! Cheers
Nice review, but I'm a bit biased owning a 2019 V85TT. I've put some serious knobbies, crashbars and barkbusters on it and live riding it through the woods, mud and sand. Great bike, totally stand out every where i take it. Not the best in anything but good enough to live with, heaps of character and great looks.
Many thanks, really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Nice I bet that looks great with the knobblies etc... Its all about the character for me with this bike, a very unique riding experience . Cheers
Another good reveiw definitely got character . Your right about the winter blues but it will soon be spring, looking forward to more videos and next years adventures.
Thanks I appreciate it 👍 Yup for sure loads of character in this one!! Absolutely, Spring is up next and the riding season will be upon us before we know it 😁 Cheers
You've really sold this bike to me. I like bikes that feel agricultural and where you can feel stuff going on underneath you. I'm amazed that they've managed to get an air-cooled V-twin to pass Euro 5. I want one!
"Goot-zeee" not "Gut-seee" not "Gooseee". That goose laughng in the background at about 2:10 in the viddie must have heard your pronounciation! lol...Good review. Thanks for posting/creating!
Excellent review, this video just popped up again after about a year since watching it, I remember thinking I will go and have a look at one, All Bikes Rochdale Guzzi dealer and bought one. Took it on a Mega Mondo with Austin Vince through the Pyrenees, all completely off road with some serious sections, open it right up and hope for the best ! The suspension is limited and the side stand switch got smashed off, but luckily with tape and zip ties it was ok. A breather pipe got crushed and was an easy fix. Thinking about a big KTM....but ordered Ohlins rear shock, Italian fancy front fork things, new exhaust system and some electrical plug in job. In short, this is a weird looking bike, engine is so much fun, I have really leathered this and its not missed a trick, best sounding bike ive heard for years.
I like the look of this bike. It looks different in a better way than a KTM 890 Adventure. 😅 If it came with an analog cockpit with round dials that mirror the look of the twin headlights, I think that would even add to its character. Great video as always! Cheers! 👍🏻
haha yes a different looking bike, but for the better 👍 A great point, twin analogue dials would look brilliant, really embrace the retro styling! Cheers glad you enjoyed the vid
By the flower pot pub know it well, I'm collecting my 2019 red&white one this week after having 44yrs of riding all sorts of bikes from ts 185, Maico 440, fireblades Harleys ktm 990, btw 1200gs, triumph tiger 800 etc.. wanted something with character looks different easy maintenance shaft drive. Love it.
MayI suggest a bit of reading... Hence knowledge of adjustable shift lights and heated gripsand O M G shaft drive.. I live in Texas and have no trouble mile crunching at 85 and 90 with panniers. Valve adjust is a 1.5 hr job so D I Y yes! I love mine and am a 37 yr. veteran of 5 different makes (Yamaha, Kawasaki, Harley and another Guzzi v65sp. I enjoyed the good and bad of I have had and this one is my Favorite. Nice job on the Vid. Thanks
Thanks really glad you enjoyed the video 👍 May I suggest paying closer attention to the video! I did actually leave a title on the screen mentioning the adjustable rev lights. Apologies if I did not get all of the details in. Yes great bike to do your own work on and also learn as you go. Cheers
I loved the look of the lakeside venue at the beginning of the video. I like Guzzis but there's always been a question of reliability hanging over them. The double z is pronounced as in Pizza. Once again cheers for the top class entertainment.
Yes it was a beautiful place to start the video, matching the beauty of the bike 👌 I suppose because this bike may be used for longer distances then the reliability could be more of a problem. However they are simple bikes that can be worked on your self for basic jobs. Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers
Delivered coal to The Flower Pot Hotel at Aston by canal boats many years ago, tied up on the River Thames just down the lane from the pub. One of my favourite destinations.
As you know, I'm a bit of a Bonneville fangirl BUT Italian design is growing on me more and more and Moto Guzzi is becoming a dream, characterful bike for me. Your comments are really informative. I think this bike in these colours looks delicious and that's the first "adventure" bike I've felt like that about. It looks like a brilliant ride all the time bike and one day, I'll try one. Sorry for long comment but I'm so excited. I have ordered my first scooter (still two wheels) and after careful thought, decided to get a 50cc straightaway. Won't have to worry about speed limits and will control my hoon factor while I learn my craft 😄
It is a really cool looking bike and adopts the classic/retro style but designed into an adventure bike! Very cool. It definitely has its faults dynamically, but a very unique and involving bike. 🥳 Brilliant, congratulations!! That is a great start, I think good idea. You can get some great practice in on the smaller cc and then move up when you feel comfortable. Enjoy the ride, the journey begins 🤟
Great vide. FYI transversally or longitudinally refers to the orientation of the crankshaft not the cylinders, therefore this bike's engine is longitudinally mounted.
Very good looking bike. As you say not as refined as the competition! Not alot of dealers around and also not sure what the reliability will be like but certainly they are a thing of beauty
I just bought a 2023 and I love everything about the bike but the Guzzi produces a prodigious amount of heat. Todays high (Late October in coastal Georgia USA) was 75F (24C) and I was getting hot on the bike. My legs were very warm and I had to splay them out to get some cooling on my summer mesh pants. It's going to be great for highway and spring, winter, fall riding but I'll probably be riding my much cooler thumper in the heat.
Yes to be fair I didn't notice the heat too much in the UK! However I can imagine it could get warm. I suppose it is a trade off for having such a unique looking bike. No bike is perfect at the end of the day. Cheers
The shift lights are set for low rpm break in period and are owner adjustable...... There is quite a bit of unused power available if you shift a couple thousand revs higher.
Good review thank you; I purchased a 2022 V85TT as well as a 2021 V7 850. I like them both but the V85TT gives me a more confidence inspiring ride although a bit taller for my 5‘7” height; had dealer install hyperpro 1 inch suspension lowering kit and removed the bumpers under the seat and it seems to be bearable now you only notice it when moving it around in the garage or stationary positions
Thanks so much I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 A great pair you have there! Moto Guzzi's have so much soul and character. This V85TT really is such a unique bike! Hope you enjoy it
@@JIMWSMITH Latterly my bike was at the dealership for a month after repeated calls to them they advised me to mail piaggio as they had run out of ideas as to why since February the bike would stall at less than 2,000 rpm. This being mid October and the bike had been in twice already "repaired" along with servicing at 16000 I think? It was a year old in february, an ex display with 600 miles from new and started stalling around 16,000miles and when exchanged 21000 . so I spent 5000 miles hard on throttle often in heavy traffic and a 3 year hire purchase left. After 10 months the gear linkage was replaced as it wouldn't change gear. It was a commute bike and winter rides had seized up the linkage from the shifter. I had the garage phone and told me they would try changing the throttle body and it was £500. If it didn't work they wouldn't charge me labour.?? Shortly after maybe a week they swapped an rht cable which seemed to work. So that being replaced for a new one at £170 and 8 hours labour £500 I finally got shot of my motto guzzi experience and realize why all the sniggers when studying during my motorcycle course in the early 90's.
This bike is somehow intriguing. I think I will try it, one of this days. The problem with this not so popular bikes, because they are uncommon, is the reliability of it as a whole. I saw videos of people saying that they had difficulties with technical assistance to their bikes. And sharing problems with brand new bikes, like leaks of oil from the shaft drive, electronic issues not promptly solved by the Dealership…It’s nice to have something different from the majority but at the same time is critical to know what are your chances of having a healthy bike that doesn’t turn itself into a nightmare for you. At the end of the day you need to know that your money was well spent and you only get that if the bike and the dealership are reliable. If I lived in Italy near to the manufacturer’s facilities, maybe I would buy one. Thanks for the bike impressions video, more or less you confirmed the mainstream experience and opinions about this bike. Living with one, can lead to a different conclusion. Although it seems a nice relaxed and non intimidating ride, with capabilities for some soft off-road trails and maybe is possible to do some weekend short touring escapades , if it shows reliable enough for that kind of use. The thing that we have to discover is if we identify ourselves with the type of ride it offers. But that’s a matter common to all bikes, if you don’t identify with the general aspects of the machine, it isn’t worth it.
It certainly is an intriguing bike to ride, very different from its competition! I like the design and the characterful engine, but yes I can see that there may be some reliability issues that crop up. It definitely has a certain appeal, if you like that style of bike then you will love it. If not then its is not the most refined ride! All about what you are after, for long distance touring I would look else where personally.
Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Definitely a different styled bike compared to its competition! Nice to have the option. Cheers and same to you.
Current Guzzis have their 'change gear' lights set for running-in revs. They're easy to set to whatever you want (although 6800 rpm or thereabouts is recommended) once past the first service. How did you like this versus the V7 you tested? (I ask as a short-legged V7 owner).
👍 Yes this is true, the dealership told me once I had got back from the ride!! The rev lights where set intentionally to a low rev gear change (can be adjusted). Too be honest I think I prefer the V7 over this bike. Just personally feel like the retro style suits a smaller naked bike better. This would be a great adventure bike for the smaller person though! Cheers
Thanks was going to post the same thing. The bike in the video had done over 1600 miles so was surprised the dealer hadn’t adjusted for this after it’s first service at 900 miles. Although as a demo I appreciate they don’t want people thrashing it too much…
So would like one of these but they are not diy. Stunning in those colours. I had a 1997 bmw r1100r 80bhp really was perfect power balance. Split a brake pipe and couldn’t bleed them had to take to a shop. The vlogs on these bikes and ownership have woes.. puts me off. Head over heart. Thankyu for this
These bikes are incredibly easy to work on yourself. Oil change, filter changes, even the angle of the cylinders means they are easily accessible for adjusting valve clearances etc.
@@willlodge5386 agreed but they aren’t things go wrong that I’ve seen on here all electrical faults. I have an engineering background with mediocre ability, but italian bikes cars still not for me
They have a great appeal to them and so different to anything else! It is a commitment though, you are sacrificing in certain areas. However I feel if you like it then it is one to fall in love with! Cheers
@@volt8684 not found anything with electrical faults mainly oil pressure sensor and over filled shaft drive and under filled gearbox oil both from factory. The owners page is pretty much problem free with one guy doing 42,000 mile without issue.
Apologies, that is a major point to mention! I personally think a big benefit. The left hand pannier will have a cut out in it to make room for the exhaust, resulting in less capacity in the left pannier.
Definitely a smaller pannier.. My helmet is a 3XL and will only fit in the right hand bag. Not the top box or left side. Everything else like my airbag vest goes in the left side.
Actually as far as looks go on the Guzzi I like it and that colour is nice too I would have one in my garage if I could for sure for those less than favorable weather days . Don't know much about the reliability of these bike have ridden many year ago but never owned one .👍good one
👍 definitely a different and cool looking bike imo. Not for everyone though! Yes I have heard of a few reliability issues, not ideal for an adventure bike. Cheers
I ride a Suzuki DL 1050 XT now , but i realy like this Guzzi V85 tt . I'm realy thinking about changing from Suzuki to Guzzi . I like the looks and also the Guzzi V-twin and for me the Guzzi has power enough .
I really want one of these but just think it will be a bit underpowered and the ground clearance concerns me. I've read most of the reviews and know they are probably both non-issues but I could get a 4 year old Triumph Explorer for the same money, downside a lot heavier..
👍 So great to have something very different from everything else on sale. Yes I forgot to mention the shaft drive as well! Big benefit in my eyes! Cheers
Thanks glad you enjoyed the review. Different style of bike really. In basic terms, I think the scrambler looks better and is more fun to ride, however the V85TT would be much better for touring etc..
Many bike manufacturers are missing the mark with their design of the new digital displays. On this one, you have a nice, large area, and then Guzzi uses only a small rectangular area in the middle of the screen. Would it really be that much harder or more expensive to use the whole screen and pack in more info and larger characters? I've noticed this on my Benelli and other bikes as well.
It's a bit of a unique bike so I like that it has a unique look. I don't like the dash though; the TFT segment looks too small for the housing, and do you think the aircooled engine would give off a lot of heat in the summer?
It is certainly a different looking bike 👍 Yes I agree the dash does look a bit busy! I think dual analogue dials would have been great. Being air cooled it is likely to get hotter, I shouldn't think it would get too bad. Being transversely mounted the cylinders get nice amount of air flow to cool them down.
My right heel gets a bit warmer than I would like in slow moving and stop and go traffic from the catalytic converter. But the heat from the cylinder heads is not too bad until you are over 95F. The cylinder heads do protect the inside of your legs from light rain though!
You can feel the added 2-3 Nm of torque? You will need a good quality torque wrench stored at right temperature, moisture and atmospheric pressure to make that exact reading.
Good video again, like the look of the bike but not keen on the colour, old school feeling but modern with it, if that makes sense. About the throttle response, as with lots of modern bikes it's due to the emissions that manufacturers have to comply to, a good remap on a dyno would sort that. Keep up the good work. 👍
Many thanks, really pleased you enjoyed the video 👍 I agree, I prefer the red and white colour personally. Yes a re-map would be great, very on off throttle. Cheers
It is so different haha! Always nice to have another option on the market. 😎 That is funny, we certainly are. P.S great documentary on Netflix called "Fantastic Fungi" very interesting! Cheers and same to you.
Thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 A very comfortable pillion seat etc... The only potential problem would be you may want more power with a pillion and luggage.
The motorheads in Mandello del Lario expect their buyers to read the owner's manual. Those warning flashes are simply a reminder to the owner that Guzzis (goot-sees) need a bit of breaking in. This is a "macchina" that you need to spend some time with and get to know. It requires some commitment on your part . . . a strange concept to most people in the 21st century. Fortunately for Moto Guzzi, their low production numbers allow them to cater to the small number of people who understand exactly what they're trying to do . . . they call themselves Guzzistas!
@@redangrevival Correct. They are changed by the dealer at the first service interval, and can also be changed by the owner. We really do live in a fun time for motorbike riding. Imagine having an "old school" bike like this in your garage, parked right next to a Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX! Talk about different experiences! However, it's very likely that by the end of this century the fossil fuel era will be over, and they will both be either parked in a museum, or junked/recycled . . . time marches on!
Not transverse mounted engine. All you guys keep repeating this rubbish. Take the time to learn how this is defined: the crankshaft rotation on the Guzzi V is in line/parallel with the wheelbase/direction of travel, therefore this is by definition a longitudanally mounted engine. The Ducati V2/V4, Harley/Indian V-twin, are transversely mounted engines by definition as their crank rotation is perpendicular to direction of travel.
I take your point sir and apologies for my naivety! You are correct of course and I always endeavour to learn more as I ride. A common misconception with these engines, I can see why the mistake is s easily made. I now know it is the direction the crank shaft is facing not the engine that describes how it is mounted.
@@redangrevival No worries. I don't have a Guzzi, but always admired their interpretation of the product and am actually looking to get one after over 38 years riding only Ducati sport bikes, so yes I like things the Italian way. The Guzzi approach to things also has many practical advantages: shaft drive-big advantage when it comes to adventure or any type of riding and touring in all kinds of weather. You can easily do your own maintenance on these bikes, with easily accessible fluid changes and valve checks easily done with the cylinders thus exposed. Don't even have to take the fuel tank off to checks the valves. Also I like that Guzzi tries hard to keep things simple without heaps of really stupid electronics aids and complex systems.
@@jdesmo1 Thanks 👍 Yes the Guzzi's are such a unique riding experience.Good for them I say for sticking to keeping things relatively simple, its refreshing these days. Yes I suppose great bikes to learn the engineering side of motorcycles with. All I would say is you may miss some power coming from Ducati to Guzzi!!
@@jdesmo1 I bought my V85 , after trading in my Multistrada,I wasn,t sure I could live with the downgrade in power, now I wonder why I ever needed 160 hp. Maintenance is a dream compared to anything I have owned in the last several decades, and at 5 foot 10, I can flat foot it, unlike any other bike in the segment.
This and the xcape 650 and Tenere are lovely! Only one I'd really take proper off roading the "Italians" are more road bikes. P.s Would love to see you review an Xcape 650.
I had the XCape lined up a few weeks ago, but fell through unfortunately. Will try again! I agree I don't think the V85TT is really meant for any real off roading, too heavy etc...
So, from what I can see the engine is basically a shrugged version of BMW's Boxer? same transvers layout, same shaft driven, even the starting has the same side shakes as R1250GS
I have owned both and have spent most of my life in the Motorcycle industry. Me like a lot of people in the industry think the T7 is the most over rated and at its selling price over priced bike in the industry. A true dual sport bike is much better off road than a T7 and almost as good on road, also the lack of any aids and tech make it literally terrible on a long road ride. Furthermore the bike is extremely top heavy and that makes if feel heavier than bikes that are as much as 50 pounds heavier. Like always happens in the industry the hype will die and the shiny will fade, if not for the Covid shortages that would have already happened.
Got one in the garage. It's Italian! Likes to ride it, but it has some odd things about it, nothing serious though*. But it's a guy who dressed up for a little more than what he was wearing. Can imagine buying a new one, want tubeless wheels, have a -20. I've "tormented" it a bit on rather strange "roads", mostly dirt roads, but sometimes.... It's been going well, so far. *) ruclips.net/user/shortstvuNcuagpF8
They are great old school and simple bikes, I think that is some of their appeal 👍 Such a different riding experience to it's competition. I towel dry 😂
I am a V85TT owner myself and I am completely satisfied. I have been with her on long journeys through Europe. The power of the engine is perfectly sufficient and on the off-road trails I could always easily control it. I have a lot of fun with her and for me she is fantastically beautiful.
👍 So great to hear that you are enjoying your V85TT so much and have also got some great use out of her.
It definitely feels like one of those bikes that one could fall in love with, very unique.
Cheers
I really want one of these bikes. I have heard people say that it is a modernized BMW R100 GS. That is a very good thing.
Let's also remember what it does NOT have: No radiator, no coolant, no water pump, no hoses, no hose clamps. Less weight, fewer parts, simplified maintenance. Maybe moderate horsepower motorcycles are like a tube amplifiers: it is better to have a lower wattage that you use more of, than a higher wattage amp that rarely just turned up.
...and they sound better and have more heart. The 300B of the motorbike world.
As a 40 year rider, this bike is my best purchase ever. My last 3 bikes were all between 110-160 hp, yet I wonder why I ever needed it after buying the Guzzi. Being able to flat foot it is huge for me, at 5 foot 9 . I am installing 50/50 tires this winter, as I have been thrashing it about on trails as much as the stock rubber allows. A major change after 2020, The 2021 and up V85tt has tubeless spoked rims, and a different tune on the engine. They had teething pains such as overfilling of the shaft lube, an easy fix, but most have been solid. The new verions also have 5 riding modes as well. The best thing?....seeing people walk by superbikes and halo adv bikes, in order to take pics and ask questions about the "Little Guzzi That Could"......
I feel like the character from the Guzzi's makes up for the loss in power! Also as you say a nice sized adventure bike as well, not too tall for us normal sized folk.
Yes like the tubeless spoked rims, useful addition and look great as well. Completely agree, it is such a unique looking bike. Superbikes get boring after a while, always nice to have something different.
Great to hear you are enjoying it. Cheers
I have had young kids on their sport bikes stop in my driveway and ask to take pictures of my Travel. In the U.S. the Travel came with the side cases with the top case as an option.
I own a 20 year old BMW with almost the exact horsepower and torque specs as the V85. It is absolutely enough power for anything you need unless you are going to the track, or have a death wish or a desire to go to prison. It is all the usable power you need.
I am a guzzi rider myself. After owned all brands of bikes through the years, I got catches completely by Moto Guzzi. Quite simple, you like a guzzi or you don’t. It has a character of it’s own.
If you ride an older guzzi, you might come into technics by doing maintenance yourself (which I started to like). Guzzi’s always bring you home 😉. For me it became much more of a traveling pall than my other bikes.
Absolutely, very much a marmite bike! Yes great for DIY work etc... which is brilliant for learning more about a bike, which is hard to do on most modern bikes.
Cheers
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I thought I absolutely knew how to ride a bike. A rude ‘wake up moment’ when I dived deep(er) into the wider knowledge of bike technology. It is fundamentally important to understand what is happening inside the engine, with the frame, gearbox etc. Especially when you ride a guzzi, it is quite important that you understand what is happening between the clutch and back wheel to chose the right revs in combination with the appropriate gear. A guzzi might be a bit unforgiving if you choose wrong. Riding a bike is quite different than transport yourself in a car.
I ride a 2020 adventure and it is everything a bmw is and everything it's not. It's a stable comfortable ride that is great for commuting and loves the back roads and twisty roads. Its simple and easy to ride and work on. Great bike for the older rider that doesn't need 135 hp. V85TT is my forever bike. It is agricultural and simple, doesn't have lots of plastic and electronics. My Bella Rose loves to get dirty and I don't have to polish her. Every time I ride I smile ear to ear. V85TT is a middle weight winner like no other. Ride safe Ride free friend.
Thanks so much and the same to you 😎 Sounds like you have found your special bike
I dont know why but this is literally the most beautiful bike I have ever seen.. IT LOOKS AMAZING
It is certainly different and that can help it feel very special 👍
“Adventuring in style” sums it up. Great looking, mechanical, somewhat heavy, comfortable, all characteristics of bikes that appeal to me. I’m done tearing up the road, I just ride and like a little heavier, planted bike. 👍 time to brave the colder weather, take a ride and lift my spirits as well !
👍 It is such a unique design, especially for an adventure bike! Perfect for not ripping up the road, you don't have to go fast on this bike to feel its character. Can be daunting to get out in the winter, but (especially when its cold) I find I always feel better afterwards. Also find it improves my riding skills.
Cheers and have a great ride.
I have a 21 Travel and I've covered 7000 miles so far, it's the least powerful bike I've ever owned but the most fun to ride. It has multiple ride modes but I've left it in Sport mode from day one and it's great fun in the twisties and country roads. It's a great bike.
I think the character more than makes up for any loss in power 👍 Not the most refined bike in the segment, but that is part of its charm. You don't always need speed to feel alive!
Totally agree it's a brilliant bike.
Best looking adventure bike imo and I am a proud owner
👍 I really like in the red and white specification. Very cool
I've ridden many other bike brands but when I rode my first Moto Guzzi I fell for it's charm. I didn't end up buying one until the V85tt as the V7 and V9 were underpowered at the time (older model with smaller engine). The V85tt was so comfortable, looks great and a joy to ride that I bought one. Easy to work on yourself as well. It's a small SUV of the bike world with a do it all mentality. A year later I rode a Tuono 660 and fell in love again with the sport bike world and is my favorite sporty bike after owning and riding many other sports bikes. So Comfy and such a joy to ride. People don't need a v4 Tuono as the 660 is more than enough and less money but still has all the cool tech stuff. I've made a few of my own videos for fun on both bikes just to talk about the upgrades that were worth it to me.
Moto Guzzi's really do have such a unique charm and riding experience 👍 Some fall inb love with it and some are put off. I can definitely see the appeal.
I personally find this V85TT even more unique than other models from Guzzi, as you say great for diy and learning about the bike etc...
I really want to ride the Tuono 660, love the engine.
Cheers
Traded my BMW F850GS for an MG V85TT. 6 gallon tank, shaft drive and a low CG did it for me. The lower rpm torque was an added bonus. Wish BMW made a R850GSA but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.
Sound like sound reasons for the trade 👍 A very different ride hoping on the V85TT! That visceral old school feel from that air cooled V-Twin, very different from the BMW. Hope you are enjoying your MG. Yes the shaft drive is a massive bonus I forgot to mention.
To me is a beautiful bike, it looks like the adventure bikes should look. No plastic panels and lots of electronics like others.
👍 love the bold looks Moto Guzzi have gone for with this bike, really stands out from the crowd. There is something very "solid" about the build quality which feels great on an adventure bike.
What you perceive as the gas tank is actually two large plastic panels covering the real tank. Side panels are plastic as well.
Moto Guzzi knows how to make motorcycles. I love Moto Guzzi
👍 They absolutely do make some great bikes
A very enjoyable review. I've always wanted a Guzzi. I'm 66 so it's been a long wait. But I have just bought a new Centenario model v85tt. One of the last ones as it is a 2021/2 model. I haven't picked it up yet but hopefully next week. I'm in Greece so we have lots of great twisty mountain roads here in Pelion.
Many thanks really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Congratulations on your new bike, I am sure you will love it and I am very jealous of the roads and weather you have out there!
All the best
You are really spot-on concerning the feelings you describe mate! They are the same as I experience them. Awesome bike to ride!
Thanks, really glad you can relate 👍 Such a cool and different bike, really love it
Good-looking bike. Love the air-cooled, transversely mounted V-twin. Interesting they now have cross-spoke wheels. I like the mechanical feel of it. Utilitarian bikes appeal to me. The weight should aid stability. I like the big double headlights. Shorter screens are better.
Would agree with you. Can check my test ride of this bike if have time.
Would agree with you. Can check my test ride of this bike when have time.
I think by what you describe you like in a bike then you would love this 👍 It really is a very mechanical ride, and full of character! Yes I agree think the large double headlights look great, a very interestingly designed bike.
Good job, thanks!
I have never ridden a MG but there is a dealer in town and I’ve stopped by and looked them over before I even knew what they were. I’m adding a second bike later this year to the current ‘21 HD softail and even with all the options out there, I just can’t shake these Guzzi’s. They look amazing to me! This adv option has really peaked my interest. So far, it’s at the top of the list based simply on looks and character. Can’t wait to ride one!
👍 They are such cool and unique bikes. If you are after character then a Guzzi is a great way to go! The V85TT especially is so unique and different feeling ride. I think you won't be let down! Cheers
Another great review Angus. I think you summed up the whole Guzzi ‘vibe’ quite comprehensively. I have ridden a lot of Guzzis over the years and have come to this conclusion; I would love one if I had a motorcycle collection but wouldn’t want to ride one on a daily basis.
Many thanks, really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Haha could not have said it better myself!
I bought a V85TT back in the summer - loved it's Guzzi charisma but decided I just couldn't live with it's agricultural engine which is strangled by poor fuelling to get it through Euro 5 - RedAng's review and comments are spot-on - it has a charm of it's own, well built quality bike and it's great that one is riding an adventure bike that isn't a GS !
I endured / moderately enjoyed a couple of thousand miles, and fitted a booster plug, K & N air filter and a less restrictive silencer to help with the poor fuelling and the bike was riding better as the miles increased - I decided that the V85TT was not for me long-term, so I sold it on and lost a lot of money !!
Thanks so much, glad you agree with my view on the bike 👍 It really is a unique bike, especially for an adventure bike! The looks and riding style are different to anything else. I agree the engine is agricultural and may lack some power for longer journeys.
Sounds like you gave it a good go and good for you for sticking with it for at least a few thousand miles!! Part of motorcycling, every now and then we have to take risks to find the ideal bike! Cheers
Nice review, but I'm a bit biased owning a 2019 V85TT.
I've put some serious knobbies, crashbars and barkbusters on it and live riding it through the woods, mud and sand.
Great bike, totally stand out every where i take it. Not the best in anything but good enough to live with, heaps of character and great looks.
Many thanks, really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Nice I bet that looks great with the knobblies etc... Its all about the character for me with this bike, a very unique riding experience . Cheers
Another good reveiw definitely got character . Your right about the winter blues but it will soon be spring, looking forward to more videos and next years adventures.
Yeah, when it comes to March everything is different and there goes the new season. :) Drop by, you may like it.
Thanks I appreciate it 👍 Yup for sure loads of character in this one!! Absolutely, Spring is up next and the riding season will be upon us before we know it 😁 Cheers
You've really sold this bike to me. I like bikes that feel agricultural and where you can feel stuff going on underneath you. I'm amazed that they've managed to get an air-cooled V-twin to pass Euro 5. I want one!
👍 I think you will love this bike, it really has a lot of character and feel to it. A very involving ride
I have the v7 850 Special and find cruising at 85 with sprints to 90 and above is no problem at all!
A beautiful bike 👌
That is the way to go with that shaft drive. SO Gorgeous!
It really makes a great difference 👍
"Goot-zeee" not "Gut-seee" not "Gooseee". That goose laughng in the background at about 2:10 in the viddie must have heard your pronounciation! lol...Good review. Thanks for posting/creating!
Haha I am all over the place with it 😂 Pronunciation has never been my strong point! Bloody geese 😉 Cheers
Excellent review, this video just popped up again after about a year since watching it, I remember thinking I will go and have a look at one, All Bikes Rochdale Guzzi dealer and bought one. Took it on a Mega Mondo with Austin Vince through the Pyrenees, all completely off road with some serious sections, open it right up and hope for the best ! The suspension is limited and the side stand switch got smashed off, but luckily with tape and zip ties it was ok. A breather pipe got crushed and was an easy fix. Thinking about a big KTM....but ordered Ohlins rear shock, Italian fancy front fork things, new exhaust system and some electrical plug in job. In short, this is a weird looking bike, engine is so much fun, I have really leathered this and its not missed a trick, best sounding bike ive heard for years.
Hi, thanks so much I appreciate that and so glad you enjoyed the review 👍 That sounds like a mega trip and you put the bike through its paces!
Well done. Like always very good points mentioned here. Today there goes my test ride of this bike. :)
Many thanks I appreciate it 👍 For sure worth a test ride, its a very different bike to its competition!
@@redangrevival I agree, rode it.
Thanks for sharing !!! I love the style of this adventure motorcycle !!! ❤
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed the video 👍
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I like the look of this bike. It looks different in a better way than a KTM 890 Adventure. 😅
If it came with an analog cockpit with round dials that mirror the look of the twin headlights, I think that would even add to its character.
Great video as always!
Cheers! 👍🏻
haha yes a different looking bike, but for the better 👍 A great point, twin analogue dials would look brilliant, really embrace the retro styling!
Cheers glad you enjoyed the vid
By the flower pot pub know it well, I'm collecting my 2019 red&white one this week after having 44yrs of riding all sorts of bikes from ts 185, Maico 440, fireblades Harleys ktm 990, btw 1200gs, triumph tiger 800 etc.. wanted something with character looks different easy maintenance shaft drive. Love it.
👍 it is such a special bike and refreshing in todays market. Not for everyone but the ones who have it love it!
Hope you enjoy it
MayI suggest a bit of reading... Hence knowledge of adjustable shift lights and heated gripsand O M G shaft drive.. I live in Texas and have no trouble mile crunching at 85 and 90 with panniers. Valve adjust is a 1.5 hr job so D I Y yes! I love mine and am a 37 yr. veteran of 5 different makes (Yamaha, Kawasaki, Harley and another Guzzi v65sp. I enjoyed the good and bad of I have had and this one is my Favorite.
Nice job on the Vid. Thanks
Thanks really glad you enjoyed the video 👍
May I suggest paying closer attention to the video! I did actually leave a title on the screen mentioning the adjustable rev lights. Apologies if I did not get all of the details in. Yes great bike to do your own work on and also learn as you go. Cheers
I loved the look of the lakeside venue at the beginning of the video. I like Guzzis but there's always been a question of reliability hanging over them. The double z is pronounced as in Pizza. Once again cheers for the top class entertainment.
Yes it was a beautiful place to start the video, matching the beauty of the bike 👌 I suppose because this bike may be used for longer distances then the reliability could be more of a problem. However they are simple bikes that can be worked on your self for basic jobs. Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers
Delivered coal to The Flower Pot Hotel at Aston by canal boats many years ago, tied up on the River Thames just down the lane from the pub. One of my favourite destinations.
As you know, I'm a bit of a Bonneville fangirl BUT Italian design is growing on me more and more and Moto Guzzi is becoming a dream, characterful bike for me. Your comments are really informative. I think this bike in these colours looks delicious and that's the first "adventure" bike I've felt like that about. It looks like a brilliant ride all the time bike and one day, I'll try one.
Sorry for long comment but I'm so excited. I have ordered my first scooter (still two wheels) and after careful thought, decided to get a 50cc straightaway. Won't have to worry about speed limits and will control my hoon factor while I learn my craft 😄
It is a really cool looking bike and adopts the classic/retro style but designed into an adventure bike! Very cool. It definitely has its faults dynamically, but a very unique and involving bike.
🥳 Brilliant, congratulations!! That is a great start, I think good idea. You can get some great practice in on the smaller cc and then move up when you feel comfortable.
Enjoy the ride, the journey begins 🤟
Thank you 🙏🏻
If I saw a woman riding this bike I would immediately fall in love with her
Great vide. FYI transversally or longitudinally refers to the orientation of the crankshaft not the cylinders, therefore this bike's engine is longitudinally mounted.
I have a 2020 and love the vibe to this bike. Plenty fast for me.
Mr. you are on a roll! very nice review once more.
haha cheers 👍 Many thanks I appreciate it, glad you enjoyed the review. Have a great Sunday
Very good looking bike. As you say not as refined as the competition! Not alot of dealers around and also not sure what the reliability will be like but certainly they are a thing of beauty
Yup, I really like the looks and overall design. But yes you may be sacrificing in certain areas!
I just bought a 2023 and I love everything about the bike but the Guzzi produces a prodigious amount of heat. Todays high (Late October in coastal Georgia USA) was 75F (24C) and I was getting hot on the bike. My legs were very warm and I had to splay them out to get some cooling on my summer mesh pants. It's going to be great for highway and spring, winter, fall riding but I'll probably be riding my much cooler thumper in the heat.
Yes to be fair I didn't notice the heat too much in the UK! However I can imagine it could get warm.
I suppose it is a trade off for having such a unique looking bike. No bike is perfect at the end of the day. Cheers
The shift lights are set for low rpm break in period and are owner adjustable...... There is quite a bit of unused power available if you shift a couple thousand revs higher.
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Good review thank you; I purchased a 2022 V85TT as well as a 2021 V7 850. I like them both but the V85TT gives me a more confidence inspiring ride although a bit taller for my 5‘7” height; had dealer install hyperpro 1 inch suspension lowering kit and removed the bumpers under the seat and it seems to be bearable now you only notice it when moving it around in the garage or stationary positions
Thanks so much I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 A great pair you have there! Moto Guzzi's have so much soul and character. This V85TT really is such a unique bike! Hope you enjoy it
Damn I have the same, 22 v85 tt travel, 21 v7 850 special.
Great bikes and priced very affordable.
I like the V85, it does have style.
👍 definitely stylish and something a bit different
Excellent review
Thanks I appreciate that 😊
Just got rid of one as it spent more time in the garage getting fixed than on the road. When it does go it's great but try telling that to Piaggio.
That is a shame! It is a special bike, but not being reliable is not a great trait for an adventure bike.
What was the issue with your bike?
@@JIMWSMITH Latterly my bike was at the dealership for a month after repeated calls to them they advised me to mail piaggio as they had run out of ideas as to why since February the bike would stall at less than 2,000 rpm.
This being mid October and the bike had been in twice already "repaired" along with servicing at 16000 I think?
It was a year old in february, an ex display with 600 miles from new and started stalling around 16,000miles and when exchanged 21000 . so I spent 5000 miles hard on throttle often in heavy traffic and a 3 year hire purchase left.
After 10 months the gear linkage was replaced as it wouldn't change gear. It was a commute bike and winter rides had seized up the linkage from the shifter.
I had the garage phone and told me they would try changing the throttle body and it was £500. If it didn't work they wouldn't charge me labour.??
Shortly after maybe a week they swapped an rht cable which seemed to work. So that being replaced for a new one at £170 and 8 hours labour £500 I finally got shot of my motto guzzi experience and realize why all the sniggers when studying during my motorcycle course in the early 90's.
I think it is THE BEST LOOKIN’ bike on the road. The new fluid cooled motor is anticipated and warranted.
It certainly stands out from the crowd! Yes the new motor in the Mandela V100 should be nice 👌
This bike is somehow intriguing. I think I will try it, one of this days. The problem with this not so popular bikes, because they are uncommon, is the reliability of it as a whole. I saw videos of people saying that they had difficulties with technical assistance to their bikes. And sharing problems with brand new bikes, like leaks of oil from the shaft drive, electronic issues not promptly solved by the Dealership…It’s nice to have something different from the majority but at the same time is critical to know what are your chances of having a healthy bike that doesn’t turn itself into a nightmare for you. At the end of the day you need to know that your money was well spent and you only get that if the bike and the dealership are reliable. If I lived in Italy near to the manufacturer’s facilities, maybe I would buy one.
Thanks for the bike impressions video, more or less you confirmed the mainstream experience and opinions about this bike. Living with one, can lead to a different conclusion. Although it seems a nice relaxed and non intimidating ride, with capabilities for some soft off-road trails and maybe is possible to do some weekend short touring escapades , if it shows reliable enough for that kind of use. The thing that we have to discover is if we identify ourselves with the type of ride it offers. But that’s a matter common to all bikes, if you don’t identify with the general aspects of the machine, it isn’t worth it.
It certainly is an intriguing bike to ride, very different from its competition! I like the design and the characterful engine, but yes I can see that there may be some reliability issues that crop up. It definitely has a certain appeal, if you like that style of bike then you will love it. If not then its is not the most refined ride!
All about what you are after, for long distance touring I would look else where personally.
I love Guzzi’s. They’re definitely an acquired taste.
They are great bikes, but yes for sure an acquired taste! Love the design they have done with the V85TT, especially for an adventure bike.
Well done on another great test !
Definitely agree with you, either love or hate machine, not sure which !!
Stay safe & keep things shiny side up
Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Definitely a different styled bike compared to its competition! Nice to have the option.
Cheers and same to you.
Waiting on Registration stickers of my 2021 Centenario. Loaded with accessories and only 1706 miles. Nothing, not even broken in.
A beauty 👌
Current Guzzis have their 'change gear' lights set for running-in revs. They're easy to set to whatever you want (although 6800 rpm or thereabouts is recommended) once past the first service. How did you like this versus the V7 you tested? (I ask as a short-legged V7 owner).
👍 Yes this is true, the dealership told me once I had got back from the ride!! The rev lights where set intentionally to a low rev gear change (can be adjusted). Too be honest I think I prefer the V7 over this bike. Just personally feel like the retro style suits a smaller naked bike better. This would be a great adventure bike for the smaller person though! Cheers
Thanks was going to post the same thing. The bike in the video had done over 1600 miles so was surprised the dealer hadn’t adjusted for this after it’s first service at 900 miles. Although as a demo I appreciate they don’t want people thrashing it too much…
So would like one of these but they are not diy. Stunning in those colours. I had a 1997 bmw r1100r 80bhp really was perfect power balance. Split a brake pipe and couldn’t bleed them had to take to a shop. The vlogs on these bikes and ownership have woes.. puts me off. Head over heart. Thankyu for this
These bikes are incredibly easy to work on yourself. Oil change, filter changes, even the angle of the cylinders means they are easily accessible for adjusting valve clearances etc.
@@willlodge5386 agreed but they aren’t things go wrong that I’ve seen on here all electrical faults. I have an engineering background with mediocre ability, but italian bikes cars still not for me
They have a great appeal to them and so different to anything else! It is a commitment though, you are sacrificing in certain areas. However I feel if you like it then it is one to fall in love with! Cheers
@@redangrevival not for me, don’t have know how or £. Prefer japanese
@@volt8684 not found anything with electrical faults mainly oil pressure sensor and over filled shaft drive and under filled gearbox oil both from factory. The owners page is pretty much problem free with one guy doing 42,000 mile without issue.
So pleased this doesn’t have electric gimmicks eg suspension .
A great review.....many thanks
It is my pleasure, glad you enjoyed the review 👍
You forgot to mention the shaft drive and I was wondering how a pannier will fit on the left side with that big muffler.......Sal : )
Apologies, that is a major point to mention! I personally think a big benefit. The left hand pannier will have a cut out in it to make room for the exhaust, resulting in less capacity in the left pannier.
Definitely a smaller pannier.. My helmet is a 3XL and will only fit in the right hand bag. Not the top box or left side. Everything else like my airbag vest goes in the left side.
Actually as far as looks go on the Guzzi I like it and that colour is nice too I would have one in my garage if I could for sure for those less than favorable weather days . Don't know much about the reliability of these bike have ridden many year ago but never owned one .👍good one
👍 definitely a different and cool looking bike imo. Not for everyone though! Yes I have heard of a few reliability issues, not ideal for an adventure bike. Cheers
Looks smashing
I ride a Suzuki DL 1050 XT now , but i realy like this Guzzi V85 tt . I'm realy thinking about changing from Suzuki to Guzzi . I like the looks and also the Guzzi V-twin and for me the Guzzi has power enough .
👍 It is certainly a unique bike. Nothing like it really, if you fancy something a bit different then this is a great option
I really want one of these but just think it will be a bit underpowered and the ground clearance concerns me. I've read most of the reviews and know they are probably both non-issues but I could get a 4 year old Triumph Explorer for the same money, downside a lot heavier..
Yes they have a great appeal, being so different from the competition. But you make valid points, I suppose it depends on what you want to use it for!
I think this is a beautiful bike !!!
I love it, anything that does the job and is different, and shaft drive.
👍 So great to have something very different from everything else on sale. Yes I forgot to mention the shaft drive as well! Big benefit in my eyes! Cheers
Great review. Thanks. How do you think this compares with the Triumph 900 Scrambler?
Thanks glad you enjoyed the review. Different style of bike really. In basic terms, I think the scrambler looks better and is more fun to ride, however the V85TT would be much better for touring etc..
Thought you were going to try and ford that river at the start.
Haha that would have been impressive
Many bike manufacturers are missing the mark with their design of the new digital displays. On this one, you have a nice, large area, and then Guzzi uses only a small rectangular area in the middle of the screen. Would it really be that much harder or more expensive to use the whole screen and pack in more info and larger characters? I've noticed this on my Benelli and other bikes as well.
Yes I know what you mean! It is very frustrating. I think it must cost save and also possibly make the screen better quality and reliable perhaps.
It's a bit of a unique bike so I like that it has a unique look. I don't like the dash though; the TFT segment looks too small for the housing, and do you think the aircooled engine would give off a lot of heat in the summer?
It is certainly a different looking bike 👍 Yes I agree the dash does look a bit busy! I think dual analogue dials would have been great. Being air cooled it is likely to get hotter, I shouldn't think it would get too bad. Being transversely mounted the cylinders get nice amount of air flow to cool them down.
My right heel gets a bit warmer than I would like in slow moving and stop and go traffic from the catalytic converter. But the heat from the cylinder heads is not too bad until you are over 95F. The cylinder heads do protect the inside of your legs from light rain though!
You can feel the added 2-3 Nm of torque? You will need a good quality torque wrench stored at right temperature, moisture and atmospheric pressure to make that exact reading.
2 Nm is the power that brings a Honda CB 50 up to 50 km/h.......so you can feel it definitly.
I like this one looks the good
I agree, think it looks great. Especially in the red and white finish, great design by Guzzi 👍
Good video again, like the look of the bike but not keen on the colour, old school feeling but modern with it, if that makes sense. About the throttle response, as with lots of modern bikes it's due to the emissions that manufacturers have to comply to, a good remap on a dyno would sort that. Keep up the good work. 👍
Many thanks, really pleased you enjoyed the video 👍 I agree, I prefer the red and white colour personally. Yes a re-map would be great, very on off throttle. Cheers
Definitely different from the run of the mill modern bikes.. lol... you just said run of the mill.. we are all connected!
Drive safe
Chow Bella Angus
It is so different haha! Always nice to have another option on the market.
😎 That is funny, we certainly are.
P.S great documentary on Netflix called "Fantastic Fungi" very interesting!
Cheers and same to you.
@@redangrevival I will check it out..sounds interesting.. I do know fungi underground are vastly connected.
Cheers Angus
Hey dnjyed the vid. Not sure about this one but there is a chunky look about it👍
Hey, thanks really glad you enjoyed the vid 👍 Yes it certainly has a distinct look about it!! Nice to have something a bit different I think. Cheers
Miss ur videos
Sorry for the lack of videos recently! I hope to make some more asap.
All the best to you
How would this fair with a passenger? Nice review 🇮🇲
Thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 A very comfortable pillion seat etc... The only potential problem would be you may want more power with a pillion and luggage.
My wife loves going on the back of mine. Very comfortable and a good pillion option imo.
The motorheads in Mandello del Lario expect their buyers to read the owner's manual. Those warning flashes are simply a reminder to the owner that Guzzis (goot-sees) need a bit of breaking in. This is a "macchina" that you need to spend some time with and get to know. It requires some commitment on your part . . . a strange concept to most people in the 21st century. Fortunately for Moto Guzzi, their low production numbers allow them to cater to the small number of people who understand exactly what they're trying to do . . . they call themselves Guzzistas!
👍 yes also I think the rev lights can be changed to allow for higher revs before the lights come on.
@@redangrevival Correct. They are changed by the dealer at the first service interval, and can also be changed by the owner. We really do live in a fun time for motorbike riding. Imagine having an "old school" bike like this in your garage, parked right next to a Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX! Talk about different experiences! However, it's very likely that by the end of this century the fossil fuel era will be over, and they will both be either parked in a museum, or junked/recycled . . . time marches on!
These appeal to me 😎👍🏻
A different type of adventure bike 👍
Not transverse mounted engine. All you guys keep repeating this rubbish. Take the time to learn how this is defined: the crankshaft rotation on the Guzzi V is in line/parallel with the wheelbase/direction of travel, therefore this is by definition a longitudanally mounted engine. The Ducati V2/V4, Harley/Indian V-twin, are transversely mounted engines by definition as their crank rotation is perpendicular to direction of travel.
I take your point sir and apologies for my naivety! You are correct of course and I always endeavour to learn more as I ride. A common misconception with these engines, I can see why the mistake is s easily made. I now know it is the direction the crank shaft is facing not the engine that describes how it is mounted.
@@redangrevival No worries. I don't have a Guzzi, but always admired their interpretation of the product and am actually looking to get one after over 38 years riding only Ducati sport bikes, so yes I like things the Italian way. The Guzzi approach to things also has many practical advantages: shaft drive-big advantage when it comes to adventure or any type of riding and touring in all kinds of weather. You can easily do your own maintenance on these bikes, with easily accessible fluid changes and valve checks easily done with the cylinders thus exposed. Don't even have to take the fuel tank off to checks the valves. Also I like that Guzzi tries hard to keep things simple without heaps of really stupid electronics aids and complex systems.
@@jdesmo1 Thanks 👍 Yes the Guzzi's are such a unique riding experience.Good for them I say for sticking to keeping things relatively simple, its refreshing these days.
Yes I suppose great bikes to learn the engineering side of motorcycles with. All I would say is you may miss some power coming from Ducati to Guzzi!!
@@jdesmo1 I bought my V85 , after trading in my Multistrada,I wasn,t sure I could live with the downgrade in power, now I wonder why I ever needed 160 hp. Maintenance is a dream compared to anything I have owned in the last several decades, and at 5 foot 10, I can flat foot it, unlike any other bike in the segment.
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This and the xcape 650 and Tenere are lovely! Only one I'd really take proper off roading the "Italians" are more road bikes.
P.s Would love to see you review an Xcape 650.
I had the XCape lined up a few weeks ago, but fell through unfortunately. Will try again! I agree I don't think the V85TT is really meant for any real off roading, too heavy etc...
@@redangrevival Think the xcape same as Guzzi more of a tourer.
So, from what I can see the engine is basically a shrugged version of BMW's Boxer? same transvers layout, same shaft driven, even the starting has the same side shakes as R1250GS
It definitely does have a similar feel to it. To be fair to Moto Guzzi they have been making these engines for a while now!
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Same price as the Tenere 700 world raid which is a better bike in every way off road.
I have owned both and have spent most of my life in the Motorcycle industry. Me like a lot of people in the industry think the T7 is the most over rated and at its selling price over priced bike in the industry. A true dual sport bike is much better off road than a T7 and almost as good on road, also the lack of any aids and tech make it literally terrible on a long road ride. Furthermore the bike is extremely top heavy and that makes if feel heavier than bikes that are as much as 50 pounds heavier. Like always happens in the industry the hype will die and the shiny will fade, if not for the Covid shortages that would have already happened.
Please, it’s a Gootzi not a Goozy!
It looks cool - but I don't get it. Your legs will be always in mud. :P
Always in mud?
Got one in the garage. It's Italian!
Likes to ride it, but it has some odd things about it, nothing serious though*. But it's a guy who dressed up for a little more than what he was wearing. Can imagine buying a new one, want tubeless wheels, have a -20.
I've "tormented" it a bit on rather strange "roads", mostly dirt roads, but sometimes.... It's been going well, so far.
*) ruclips.net/user/shortstvuNcuagpF8
It is a great different styled bike, and always nice to have a different option to go for. I agree there are some great quirky things about it 👍
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Really beautiful motorcycle from Guzzi 🤌 do you thing the V85tt is beginner friendly as the V7 stone?! Did you ride with a pilion? Cheers ✌️
It is very cool 😎 Not as beginner friendly as the V7, because of weight and higher riding position. Unfortunately not ridden with a pillion. Cheers
I really like the looks and have always hankered after a Guzzi V twin since my Lancaster days back in the late 70’s. It’s a bike, not a hairdryer.
They are great old school and simple bikes, I think that is some of their appeal 👍 Such a different riding experience to it's competition. I towel dry 😂