Midjourney's Newest Weird Feature (Deep Dive & Tips/Tricks!)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 июн 2023
  • Today we're taking a look at a new feature command in Midjourney: Weird! As odd as it may seem, there are a lot of really interesting uses for this new command, although it is helpful in generating unconventional Midjourney images.
    We'll also get to experiment with commands like Stylize, Vary, and Chaos, which further augment the effects of Weird in some very cool ways. Plus, I'm taking another look at the hidden power of the Shorten Command!
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  • @TheoreticallyMedia
    @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +2

    Come check out the $1000 AI Art Challenge: ruclips.net/video/Y6c_-gM_7Tk/видео.html

    • @ai.explorer_de
      @ai.explorer_de 11 месяцев назад +1

      do we have to link you on instagram?

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      @@ai.explorer_de I have one-- I think it's Theomedia? To be honest, I haven't really used it very much. Between YT/Discord/Twitter, I'm stretched pretty thin-- I'll probably jump onto it at some point, but right now it's mostly a graveyard.

    • @LouisGedo
      @LouisGedo 11 месяцев назад +1

      Hi

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      @@LouisGedo Hi Louis! Good to see you as always!!

  • @JDavid-ye7gm
    @JDavid-ye7gm 11 месяцев назад +7

    I’ve been watching an insane amount of AI art tutorials as of late and your channel is by far the one I find most useful. Keep up the good work.

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much!! Haha, I do watch a ton of them too, so that really means a lot!

    • @AsherDevang
      @AsherDevang 10 месяцев назад

      Same here and totally agree!

  • @michalbartosz4878
    @michalbartosz4878 11 месяцев назад +2

    You were born to do this mate, I love how articulate you are. Great content served up in a wonderful form.

  • @sidewaysdesign
    @sidewaysdesign 11 месяцев назад +6

    In response to a question in a recent Midjourney Q/A, the /shorten interpreter is an approximation of MJ’s engine, not the actual engine. As a result, supposedly ineffectual tokens in a prompt can actually have some impact on an image. Apparently there is too steep of a falloff in token importance. I hope this is rebalanced at some point, so that the parenthesized values under "Interportant Tokens" can be easily recycled into prompts where you manually tweak the keyword importance using :: syntax.

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      Was that your question? I heard just the start of that, but had to log off to work! It bums me out that the Office Hours aren't archived, but I do get David's reasoning that if it is recorded, it'll eventually be weaponized against him. Ha!
      Good info though! I'm going to keep playing with Shorten to see what we can glean from it, but that is some really helpful to know. I had been under the assumption that shorten was the language engine.

    • @thenext9537
      @thenext9537 11 месяцев назад

      Interesting! I know the prompts are broken up into the tokens, and the order (or not) and { } permutation prompts. Approximation vs emulation vs simulation are the same sounding, but different in each case. In Aprox, you create a case for a solution close enough. Emulation you are trying to create a replica, and simulation is a representation of something to put it simply. This is where I get weird because what people say may not be what they mean, because maybe they aren't well versed or are a talking head for the product. I mean I've talked to some high level engineers, and I had to dig on my own to vet the findings, which sometimes didn't yield what I wanted.
      On one hand, more is better, then again less is more. Then you have 'nested' permutation prompts. Now that 5.2 hit, it's different again and now we get to find out what's what!
      I mean all this is in the docs (for the prompts, not the simulation, emulation, approx stuff), but you have to have some sort of background in some basic programming to understand stuff like local vs global variables, for loops, things like that and you start to think a little differently. Not that KNOWING programming is necessary for MJ, but that thought process of order of operations comes into play. Take for example the --seed, I find that one especially interesting but not consistent.

  • @secondlifearound
    @secondlifearound 11 месяцев назад +3

    Brother your videos only keep getting better! Thank you for all your hard-work!

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much!! And I shall!!

    • @secondlifearound
      @secondlifearound 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheoreticallyMedia As long as you keep some time open for our upcoming "Permutations" 80's band reunion. LOL. Jk.

  • @mephistopolice
    @mephistopolice 11 месяцев назад +1

    Another great video, Tim. I appreciate all your hard work. Speaking of 80s TTRPG sourcebook images, I've been using Midjourney a lot lately to generate battlemaps for my homebrew Pathfinder campaign. Even just a few months ago it was pretty lackluster with generating those images, but into 5.2 now I'm getting very workable and interesting maps for doing up battles and city maps on the fly. Something worth looking at, if you are into that at all, and I'd love to see your tips and tricks with prompts in regards to RPG settings and images.

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      That is such a great idea! I'll dig into that at some point! So, funny enough, as a kid I played AD&D (2nd)/Forgotten Realms, Star Frontiers, The Marvel one, Steve Jackson's GURPs...oh, and the Star Wars one...but because I was a military brat and we moved around a lot, what I ended up doing a lot is just reading the manuals and sourcebooks. Basically, until I could find friends to play with.
      But, yeah-- somewhere in there, I think I picked up a massive love for stupid maps and lore. haha...Oh, I also painted the Warhammer figures, but never actually played Warhammer! Go Figure...

  • @coryreeve1
    @coryreeve1 11 месяцев назад +2

    Talk about serendipity. I was testing the word "greebles" in generations this morning and now here it is in you latest video. Such wild coincidences. 🤣🤯

  • @AG_before
    @AG_before 11 месяцев назад +1

    weird is chaos on steroids!
    As for the shorten command, I honestly think it has a while to go before I would encourage anyone to burn fast hours using it. It has almost ignored (0.01 in the show details section) words and terms like 'depth of field'. In the images though, 'depth of field' almost _always_ affects the outcome. So I'm excited about it, and will be even more excited if/when they introduce '--improve'.
    Thank you for the excellent video- didn't know about 'imagine all'. 👍

  • @SirQuantization
    @SirQuantization 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the video, was wondering how weird worked exactly

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      It is a weird one! But playing around with it, there’s a lot of cool and unpredictable things you can get with it. Lots of fun!

  • @thenext9537
    @thenext9537 11 месяцев назад +2

    Additionally, if you dare, inegrate gpt api calls into your MJ and automate with some params in advance, and you'll really start seeing some STRANGE things. You can build a little app and do interactive kb and auto chat with itself and it learns and you come back and go "What in the world were you doing while I was gone". Python utilities, db utilities....you can create and query a db table with various prompts, mix them up and spit it out.
    Yea, AI is crazy right now.

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      Ha, yeah-- you're at the power user of GPT! Meanwhile I'm over here going: "Hey, can you check to see if I'm using the semicolon correctly in this email?"
      That said, I do have some ChatGPT digging to do-- I've got a few projects that i'd like to try my hand at with it! Yours is a really cool idea!

    • @j_shelby_damnwird
      @j_shelby_damnwird 11 месяцев назад

      I´m intrigued, please elaborate/share some pertinent links.

    • @thenext9537
      @thenext9537 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheoreticallyMedia I've been in IT since the late 90's. I just have a lot of experience.
      I've got my hand in some programming, mostly python, lua, and some c# but by no means an expert, but someone called me an 'IT generalist' which I guess is good at a lot of things, but not great, or jack of all trades or something. I think the hardest part of GPT is cross referencing information to sort out fact checking, which that in itself takes time! GPT has a plug in I can't remember, but someone built the game snake just off a simple build me a snake game (not those exact words, but it was short). I was like !!! Wow, we are getting there quick.

  • @LuvHrtZ
    @LuvHrtZ 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm a bit confused as to the photograph you're adding before the weird parameter.

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      The thumbnail with the /? That was actually a mistake. But when I re-did it with the correct dash dash, it just looked odd. So I just left it the same!

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      Oh, I think I see what you were asking-- is that the "mixed media" one at 04:41? Yeah, basically if you run a Vary command (if you have remix turned on in your /settings) you'll have the option to add or remove your base prompt.
      Sorry, I think that's what you were asking?

  • @projectitis
    @projectitis 11 месяцев назад +1

    Weird at 2000 looks like a good Dixit card generator!

  • @gmcubed
    @gmcubed 11 месяцев назад +2

    In painting in midjourney? how are they gonna manage that one, wouldn't you need a real UI for that kind of thing rather than Discord?

    • @ProducerJakeyJam
      @ProducerJakeyJam 11 месяцев назад +1

      They are working on a website and app, but seems like they were trying to implement it in Discord

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      I heard something about a pop up window. Interesting for sure!

  • @FlyingDogArt
    @FlyingDogArt 11 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome 🤟👍🤟

  • @hugoblack4133
    @hugoblack4133 11 месяцев назад +1

    The /shorten prompt is only useful for the current prompt. For instance, for one prompt, it may use your prompted artist 'Jackson Pollack,' but in another /shorten prompt, you will find his name lined out, as MJ did not use it in that specific image. So, a /shorten line-out does not mean MJ doesn't 'recognize' a word, it just means it doesn't always use the terms you give it.

  • @powersaverorb8802
    @powersaverorb8802 11 месяцев назад +1

    thank you

  • @josjos1847
    @josjos1847 11 месяцев назад +1

    1:59 Marcus Brownlee?

  • @Jack_Vickers
    @Jack_Vickers 11 месяцев назад +1

    Let's get weird!!! 3000! Let's go!!

  • @corewwwi
    @corewwwi 11 месяцев назад +1

    please give us the thumbnail in full resolution!!

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      Here you are! drive.google.com/file/d/1qsQGNGD_7puWiGxnNcqQElS2mE3S9x4n/view?usp=sharing

    • @corewwwi
      @corewwwi 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheoreticallyMedia
      Thank you!!!
      What could be the prompt?

  • @ArducNation
    @ArducNation 11 месяцев назад +1

    what's the best image to image ai art generator for a stealth mode please

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      Midjourney has one-- you just have to pay for the $60 tier.

  • @marcdevinci893
    @marcdevinci893 11 месяцев назад +1

    Weird = loss of coherence. I like the concept of introducing weirdness but not at the expense of coherence. Hopefully it will get tweaked.

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      I hope so to. It is one of the funkier options we have, but it’s so weird, I can see it being one of those things that falls on the back burner as bigger projects are worked on- like, Inpainting and whatnot.
      Fingers crossed for weird though!

  • @Mooooty
    @Mooooty 11 месяцев назад +1

    The "weird feature" looks like Leonardo AI or Midjourney 3 outputs...god awful!

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  10 месяцев назад

      I think they're still working on it. I've been finding that a low Weird coupled with a mid level stylize comes out pretty good.

  • @Edbrad
    @Edbrad 11 месяцев назад +1

    Chaos doesn't change the images it just changes how different the 4 generations are to each other

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      Right-- Did I imply that Chaos did somewhere in the video? Truly asking!

    • @alpha0xide9
      @alpha0xide9 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think OP is referring to another comment that called --weird "chaos on steroids"

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад

      @@alpha0xide9 ah, thank you!!

  • @snuffying
    @snuffying 11 месяцев назад +2

    geiger

    • @TheoreticallyMedia
      @TheoreticallyMedia  11 месяцев назад +1

      Did I spell it wrong? I probably did.

    • @snuffying
      @snuffying 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheoreticallyMedia its spelled as “guyguhr” but yeah his name is giger. You spelled it “gheeguhr”