Microsoft Mail History Part 1 (1988-1997)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • In part 1 of this video series we're taking a look at the history of Microsoft Mail, running on MS-DOS and Windows For Workgroups 3.1. This will cover the 1988 - 1997 era.
    This video is sponsored by PCBway If you want your circuit board design realised and printed, You should check out www.pcbway.com/ Starting Prices as low as 5$ for a 1 or 2 layer design.
    In part 2 we will be covering Windows 95 / NT 4.0 and Windows 98.
    0:00 - Introduction
    1:27 : Sponsor message
    2:09 : Microsoft Mail for AppleTalk (1988)
    2:26 : Microsoft Mail for PC Networks 2.1 (1991)
    5:45 : Microsoft Mail for PC Networks 3.2 (1993)
    7:09 : Microsoft windows For Workgroups 3.1 Mail App (1992)
    11:32 : Microsoft Exchange Client 4.0 (1996)
    14:50 : Microsoft Outlook 97 (v8.0) (1997)
    Enjoy the video !
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  • @Akselmoi
    @Akselmoi 2 года назад +16

    When I was a kid I saw outlook on our family PC and I really wanted to try email and everything. Problem was that I never had anyone to mail to, nor an email address.. lol. It's nice to see this software explored, kinda helps me to see what it would've been like if I did have an email address back then :D

  • @adhodgson1
    @adhodgson1 2 года назад +4

    Ah, the joys of 90s LAN based mail clients. There were several around, I remember using Pegasus Mail back in the day at school and eventually help to configure the Mercury backend. One of the places I did my first work experience was at a tech company which used MS Mail 3.5 and the server was configured to upload mail to the HQ via a dialup link but it was completely controlled by the server portion. The Mail 3.5 at the other end had a link to the Internet and would send/receive email. Not sure if that was done by another component of Mail 3.5, an early Exchange version or something completely different. This was during summer 99.

  • @colinstu
    @colinstu 9 месяцев назад +1

    Was there ever a part 2? Love finally having a deep dive into this.

  • @lorenanunez9409
    @lorenanunez9409 2 года назад +1

    I love your videos, discovered your channel like a year ago and I think I watched all your videos. I just wanted to say hello, tell that I'm watching you from Uruguay, South America and I like this kind of content!

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78  2 года назад

      Really nice to hear ! Great to see how many people are liking the videos all over the world.

  • @IanDunbar1
    @IanDunbar1 2 года назад

    I want to thank you for posting this video and for actually going over the install process on Microsoft Mail. I've attempted to install Mail 2.1 before, but I've never been able to create a mail database. As you say, the commands are quite cryptic and without the manual it's almost impossible to do.

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78  2 года назад +1

      Its actually pretty simple. You just need to place yourself in the maildata directory. And from there you need to execute the various commands like “mail” or “admin admin”. If maildata is on the C drive, make sure to pass the “-dc” parameter.

  • @hoofie2002
    @hoofie2002 2 года назад +1

    In 1992 I was using Microsoft mail to set up email for a business in Saudi Arabia with dial up connections to 6 satellite offices. It worked surprisingly well.

  • @TrustNo1sz
    @TrustNo1sz 2 года назад +1

    I have deployed all this on my early working years. Most interesting thing was the international dial-up connection with our main office postoffice to exchange the messages. It was so expensive that we only dialed twice a day.

  • @phreapersoonlijk
    @phreapersoonlijk 2 года назад +11

    Never offer your excuses to us because you've been busy with work, man !
    We're very happy every time you post something, be it every week, month or just every now and then.

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78  2 года назад +5

      Appreciate it. But gotta keep posting to stay relevant for the algorithm :) if you stay away from RUclips for a while first couple of videos always do really bad

  • @misassip
    @misassip 2 года назад +4

    I really like what you do! It Is like going BACK to great memories. Thank you very much for sharing history with us!

  • @manoliskypraios8153
    @manoliskypraios8153 2 года назад

    Good to have you back! We missed you :) Great Presentation by the way!!!

  • @Blackadder75
    @Blackadder75 2 года назад +2

    I have a bunch of Dilbert comic books and this video checks all the boxes... the only thing you need now is an intern to find the tokens in case your token ring network breaks down.....

  • @parrottm76262
    @parrottm76262 2 года назад +5

    Ah, you are going over all the nuggets that eventually drove me away from admitting I had Exchange/Outlook support on my resume. Usually everything went well, but when things blew up on a client, and no one at MS had any idea how to recover a corrupted personal address book, a corrupted ost/pst file, ugh. This was before most companies would pay for native exchange and client backups.

  • @ntgm20
    @ntgm20 2 года назад +2

    I bought a book for Outlook 97 in 1998 for $10, that came with the program. I used it as a POP client, and really liked it over other clients before and at that time.

  • @lorenanunez9409
    @lorenanunez9409 2 года назад +1

    This was very nostalgic. Great video! After Outlook 97 I started to use other clients like Eudora or IncrediMail, then switched back to Outlook and the Mail Client included in Windows Vista and the Microsoft Essentials 2008, 2009 and 2012 and nowadays I'm using Thunderbird because I don't line the UI of Office 365 / Office 2013+

    • @lorenanunez9409
      @lorenanunez9409 2 года назад +1

      And I forgot to mention Outlook Express 6 in Windows XP

  • @haansolo6169
    @haansolo6169 2 года назад

    We missed you!

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois 2 года назад +3

    Hmm, wonder if that e-mail thing will become popular. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @compugamesarg
    @compugamesarg 2 года назад

    it's good to see you back, best regards ,by the way, great computers!

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra 2 года назад +1

    Hope you can sort your NAS related trouble and you haven't lost any data. Thanks for your nice videos!

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes 2 года назад

    More interesting facts and history. Excellent 👍

  • @airfixer9461
    @airfixer9461 2 года назад

    Great video, I'm looking forward to part 2

  • @zaxchannel2834
    @zaxchannel2834 2 года назад +2

    I find CLI email to be alluring for some reason. I like playing with alpine for linux

  • @fmb64
    @fmb64 2 года назад

    Great video, thanks! It's funny how you clearly see the roots of Outlook in these first Microsoft Mail versions.

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt 2 года назад

    Absolutely fascinating video. As usual, LOVE IT! Covers a time in computer history when, as an elementary-aged kid, I was just really getting deep into the PC world around 1990-91, coming off of the CoCo2. Also, you're the only other person I have seen mention Windows for Workgroups 3.1. Most people think that 3.11 was the first Windows for Workgroups!

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis 2 года назад

    Nice history! Thank you very much.

  • @gettoecoding1058
    @gettoecoding1058 2 года назад

    Love this type of stuff.

  • @MadsonOnTheWeb
    @MadsonOnTheWeb 2 года назад

    I like this take on software stuff

  • @nickynikos
    @nickynikos 2 года назад

    17:02 Clippy be like « Looks like you’re trying to write an email, do you want help with that? »

  • @Lofote
    @Lofote Год назад

    I would have loved to see "Exchange Client 5.0" again, it had a really nice yellow splash screen. :)
    BTW Exchange 4 was no rebrand of Mail, it was a complete different product that they bought then, with completely different technology. And actually Microsoft wasn't even that interested in the Exchange Server per se, they were interested in the X.400 directory services that it brought with it, because that would later be extracted and became "Active Directory", the new Windows domain services starting with Windows NT version 5.0, which would be called "Windows 2000". In fact while Exchange Server 4.0, 5.0 and 5.5 had the directory services and the mailbox services, Exchange Server 2000 (6.0) then was only the mailbox services, because the directory services were now put into the operating system.

  • @ImHereFindMe
    @ImHereFindMe 2 года назад

    I remember seeing Mail and Schedule on my Windows 3.11 machine but not knowing what to do with it. Now I know!

  • @owenmorgan857
    @owenmorgan857 2 года назад

    Wow some great memories from back in the day

  • @derwegi3413
    @derwegi3413 2 года назад +1

    The snappiness and clear look and feel of windows 3.11 is something I miss nowadays. The design is timeless and absolut functional.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 года назад

      fym? windows 3.x is ugly AF (as are OS/2 and CDE, all based around IBM's Common User Access framework)

  • @philsowers
    @philsowers 2 года назад

    Love it! I lived this in the 90s. Had the pleasure of testing the brand new Windows NT 4 beta through the MSDP discs. I hated Win3.11 and WinNT3.5 and under. I couldn't upgrade to NT4 Server & MS Exchange fast enough! And this was coming from a guy that was a certified Novell administrator. lol! MS Mail is dead, long live MS Mail...aka: Exchange!

  • @caerikandersson4089
    @caerikandersson4089 2 года назад +1

    Do you use mac to? I do..i have some older mac but they till work very nice i have a Imac27 from 2011 and i imac 24 from 2006 and a Mac pro from 2006 and a mac book from 2010 ..of course i have some PC to from laptop to stationary but not like before but i had to remove some i had no space for all of them and then i moved and had to abandone some brrr....any way when i watch your videos so much memories come back wow so much memories ..i am 55 years old so i have seen much and tested much....and so many program i have intsalled so many games you name it..L.O.L....Thanks from Erik in sweden...

  • @marcialynn3469
    @marcialynn3469 2 года назад +1

    After grad school I kept my Tandy X1000 and started windows 3.1 at work with connection a few years later. I was told the mail service on windows was buggy, and never used it. Still dont. Interesting

  • @no-one3795
    @no-one3795 2 года назад +1

    You got Mail

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood 2 года назад +1

    Real life loves to get in the way doesn't it? On a random note if LGR was doing this clip the Subject & Body lines in all those emails would just be FARTS!

  • @rodhester2166
    @rodhester2166 2 года назад +1

    sent ya an email.. thanks for all the videos.

  • @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc
    @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc 2 года назад

    Talking about email, how to remove win 10 mail client?

  • @matthieustrasseele7994
    @matthieustrasseele7994 2 года назад

    Does anybody know how to log in to old mail clients ? Outlook 2000 cannot reach the server...

    • @ran2wild370
      @ran2wild370 2 года назад

      which server are you trying to reach? What protocol are you using POP/IMAP?

    • @matthieustrasseele7994
      @matthieustrasseele7994 2 года назад

      @@ran2wild370 IMAP for AOL and Outlook

    • @ran2wild370
      @ran2wild370 2 года назад

      @@matthieustrasseele7994 maybe something wrong with encryption and certificates?

  • @ran2wild370
    @ran2wild370 2 года назад

    I was confused after reading Evi Nemeth Unix sys adm book. Where are MTA and MDA in these mail servers? Video doesn't cover this aspect either. So it's unclear how it used to interact with outer world. Everything was overcomplicated at those times... At one company I even managed to see UUCP mail batch processing with dial-up link to ISP back in the end of 90s.

  • @norwedish01
    @norwedish01 2 года назад

    Wait are you Dutch?! GEKOLONISEERD!!!

  • @kuro68000
    @kuro68000 2 года назад +1

    I hope you recovered your data from the NAS.

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78  2 года назад +1

      Even better … managed to unbrick it … video coming soon :)

    • @kuro68000
      @kuro68000 2 года назад

      @@RetroSpector78 looking forward to that

  • @kingkai3862
    @kingkai3862 9 месяцев назад

    12923

  • @cyberjack
    @cyberjack 2 года назад +2

    why not just convert a old pc as a NAS/file server that what i do, way more reliable and obviously faster

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78  2 года назад +2

      Tried the whole PC / FreeNAS setup before but was always a bit of a hassle. Wanted a no-nonsense solution but obviously also has its downsides :) but managed to unbrick it and will do a video on it.

    • @timewave02012
      @timewave02012 2 года назад +1

      I've been using ZFS for home NAS for years, first on Solaris, and now on FreeBSD. Definitely the way to go. Checksumming to catch failures, and better recovery options than consumer grade "hardware" RAID, which is usually proprietary software RAID at the driver level. Also great for snapshotting and backup send/receive.

  • @Lofote
    @Lofote 10 месяцев назад

    Microsoft Mail was really a very ug...ly piece of s...oftware. Good that they completely scratched it and went with a completely different project "Exchange" instead of updating Mail.
    But looking at 1:03 it really is very funny but also strange to see there was once a Outlook 16-bit client :)...

  • @Oldsvito2999
    @Oldsvito2999 2 года назад

    1st