Karrigan: "This Core Can Be the Next Astralis" | PGL Antwerp 2022 Major Interview

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  • Опубликовано: 21 май 2022
  • CSGO legend karrigan joined Dexerto for a CSGO interview after FaZe Clan won PGL Antwerp 2022 CSGO Major. In this karrigan interview, he discusses FaZe rain, FaZe broky, FaZe Twistzz, and FaZe Ropz, as well as winning the PGL Major and what's next for karrigan.
    The FaZe CSGO IGL also speaks about how the core of FaZe could have the next Astralis CSGO era, and the emotion of the first ever karrigan Major win.
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Комментарии • 241

  • @DEXERTOCSGO
    @DEXERTOCSGO  2 года назад +115

    Did YOU expect FaZe to beat NAVI 2-0?!

    • @dixonmathew7170
      @dixonmathew7170 2 года назад +18

      Yes of course. They were destined to win this major!

    • @nihalkotwani3239
      @nihalkotwani3239 2 года назад +1

      Yes

    • @iwnl_vale
      @iwnl_vale 2 года назад +14

      After I saw the veto I did. Not before it though.

    • @azzy5674
      @azzy5674 2 года назад

      hell yeah

    • @downnnnnn
      @downnnnnn 2 года назад +18

      thought it would be 2-1 before the veto

  • @newgate5298
    @newgate5298 2 года назад +273

    Karrigan is the sort of guy who would succeed no matter what career he takes. His attitude towards everything is so positive, yet stays realistic. Best IGL

    • @adictedseon8913
      @adictedseon8913 Год назад

      Gla1ve: Am I a joke to you?

    • @galax12370
      @galax12370 Год назад +5

      @@adictedseon8913 yessir

    • @galax12370
      @galax12370 Год назад +4

      @@adictedseon8913 I dont think karrigan yet succeeds gla1ve but its an interesting debate on what you prefer

    • @artofcr1mson
      @artofcr1mson Год назад

      both are amazing

    • @deathcode1238
      @deathcode1238 Год назад +1

      @@galax12370 karrigan walked so glaive could run.

  • @C0pernicus
    @C0pernicus 2 года назад +352

    Get the grand slam guys. You deserve it.

    • @lyricaesthetic4324
      @lyricaesthetic4324 2 года назад

      Yeah sucks we need to wait for 6 months for that tournament

    • @Ephigy1
      @Ephigy1 2 года назад +31

      @@lyricaesthetic4324 wdym if they pull iem dallas they can get it in july with cologne

    • @lyricaesthetic4324
      @lyricaesthetic4324 2 года назад +1

      @@Ephigy1 oh mb

    • @dthepiratesking501
      @dthepiratesking501 2 года назад +32

      +1
      And Twistzz would get another Grand Slam and become MVP on fourth event.

    • @bensoum8528
      @bensoum8528 2 года назад

      @@lyricaesthetic4324 q

  • @4amv
    @4amv 2 года назад +159

    Karrigan is motivating a whole generation of future cs players

    • @DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
      @DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS 2 года назад +16

      yeah it’s cool as well because if ur from norway, estonia, or latvia you didnt have a major winning player to idolize before now, fuck even na has been hungry for a beacon of hope with valorant and covid and all that shit

    • @XxXNinjaFanXxX
      @XxXNinjaFanXxX 2 года назад +2

      @@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS and now theres 2 whole canadians with majors

    • @DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
      @DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS 2 года назад +1

      @@XxXNinjaFanXxX whos the other lol

    • @XxXNinjaFanXxX
      @XxXNinjaFanXxX 2 года назад +1

      @@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS sorry i thought rush was canadian for a sec

    • @kucings7527
      @kucings7527 Год назад +3

      @@XxXNinjaFanXxX He's the only canadian major winner woo

  • @hasedase4238
    @hasedase4238 2 года назад +62

    So happy for you legend. Well deserved victory for all the guys in FaZe. Amazing job

  • @Sam-dk2dp
    @Sam-dk2dp 2 года назад +19

    Happy for him! He worked so hard during his career and definitely contributed enormously to any team he has ever joined, he simply deserves the Major.

  • @rainy6563
    @rainy6563 Год назад +43

    He did what no other could till now, being the first & only international roster to win a Major.
    GOAT IGL (Undisputed)

    • @davidschaffer9914
      @davidschaffer9914 Год назад +1

      would this team wipe the floor with prime Astralis?

    • @rainy6563
      @rainy6563 Год назад +4

      @@davidschaffer9914 too ez

    • @w1nterf0x_19
      @w1nterf0x_19 Год назад +8

      I would say the meta has evolved very far that any top 2022 team today could challenge 2018-19 astralis.
      It's just a matter of CS comp scene growing through the years

    • @lucascleeve7052
      @lucascleeve7052 Год назад +2

      not better than glaive lo

    • @gregorneier2592
      @gregorneier2592 Год назад +2

      @@w1nterf0x_19 yeah, the teams of today are all based on peak astralis

  • @mafia7378
    @mafia7378 Год назад +1

    Absolutely deserved, well done to these legends.

  • @Eidolon5150
    @Eidolon5150 Год назад +6

    I’m happy for rain the most, with faze since 2016 always loyal to them and now he gets a major

    • @Knouch
      @Knouch Год назад +1

      seriously my feel good moment, him putting on this performance in the finals alone. beautiful stuff

  • @eifl_
    @eifl_ Год назад +8

    He gets the final frag of the entire tournament, what an amazing ending

  • @versev0
    @versev0 Год назад +31

    He is really a goat igl, building the 3 core astralis device,xyp and dupreh. Now he build another 3 core internasional faze twistz,ropz and broky

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Год назад

      Hey, sorry, im a new cs:go fan. How exactly did he build the Astralis core? Wasn't he not a part of that team?

    • @69nites
      @69nites Год назад

      @@Pyxyty prior to Astralis they were TSM and in a rock paper scissors with the legionary fnatic lineup and NV. Before that they were under dignatas and reached #2 world ranking.
      The structure of the Astralis core was built by him. A lot of the strats and plays they continued to use were developed by him and this is why his teams have always performed well against them even when struggling otherwise.

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Год назад

      @@69nites i see. Thanks very much for the info! Only started watching this year so I'm not too faniliar with the history, but it's certainly interesting. Much appreciated!

    • @69nites
      @69nites Год назад +1

      @@Pyxyty yeah. Karrigan is the one who made the change for device to full time AWP over Cajun after having them swap dependant on map. He is the one that came up with the grenade to cross doors on dust 2 to save a smoke for site defense.
      More than one meta has been defined by his contributions as an IGL.
      If he decides to coach when he retires as a player he'll almost certainly be the greatest coach of all time.

    • @coleenhernandez985
      @coleenhernandez985 Год назад

      @@69nites and Faze was the only team that beat prime Astralis 3-0.

  • @OriginalRaveParty
    @OriginalRaveParty 2 года назад +34

    Legend. Well done Karrigan 🙂👍

  • @saberterminal871
    @saberterminal871 Год назад +1

    I was thinking this as well. this FaZe really has the chance to be the next Astralis

  • @vibes24osrs
    @vibes24osrs 2 года назад +11

    king has his crown

  • @S.L.0311
    @S.L.0311 2 года назад +103

    Watching this level of CS in the major makes me appreciate the Astralis Era even more

    • @emirgavranovic560
      @emirgavranovic560 2 года назад +1

      SAME!

    • @Ivan-ov2yc
      @Ivan-ov2yc 2 года назад +15

      There was a lot of high iq decision making by the players individually imo.
      But yeah astralis was different. When they were making the high level moves they made them as a team not individually, you can't see that team play anymore.

    • @maskedkitsune9774
      @maskedkitsune9774 2 года назад +31

      In what way. The astralis era had significantly weaker top 10. Sure respect the achievement. Just don't understand how it brought more appreciation as they had easier opponent's

    • @killin.479
      @killin.479 2 года назад +17

      @@maskedkitsune9774 people like you seem to forget that it was strong. Astralis was just so much better that everyone else like bad. Its like comparing s1mple in 2021 to other players that year, compared to him they look like shit

    • @stevenkurniawan6521
      @stevenkurniawan6521 2 года назад +4

      Didn't like Astralis era because it's way too boring
      I prefer rivalry between teams like Luminosity/SK,VP,Envyus,Old G2
      I feel cs has become boring nowadays

  • @samcruz6454
    @samcruz6454 2 года назад

    Congrats Champ!

  • @LLMOFO
    @LLMOFO Год назад

    Wow. This guy is amazing!!!!

  • @MrAMG63
    @MrAMG63 Год назад +1

    Karrigan the legend, glad the king finally got his crown.

  • @mrshahevil
    @mrshahevil Год назад

    Dextetro once you said if karrigan win this major it's between him and gla1ve and now i understand it you were right he is a legend there is no doubt about it.

  • @HuecoOD
    @HuecoOD 2 года назад +26

    Honestly even if Karrigan an rain retires soon, with his comment about Broky Twistzz and ropz staying together, if Karrigan became head coach of FaZe and continued with them I can really see the Astralis era coming together. Just pick up a few young talents (like me lol jk unless) and he could really build something with FaZe or whatever team they’d be with.

    • @bruceskellator
      @bruceskellator 2 года назад +3

      As a FaZe fan who supported them even in their lowest moments the past few years, i'd really like for that to happen. But even just right now in this moment, I am already so proud of what this team had accomplished. Hope they get a well-deserved rest to recharge!

    • @HuecoOD
      @HuecoOD 2 года назад +1

      @@bruceskellator same here brother! Don’t want them retiring anytime soon ofc. Can’t wait to see what more they have in store.

    • @saratchandrab4384
      @saratchandrab4384 Год назад +1

      I was actually thinking about the same, rain and yekindar is a like to like replacment..... With karrigan as coach, get someone unproven and semi decent...it's on

    • @captainminecraftist
      @captainminecraftist Год назад

      @@bruceskellator yea i literally used to skip to the end cuz i couldnt watch if Faze lost. Always hoped they'd pull it together. Now it's time for me to hope for G2 and really Niko

    • @frosty1865
      @frosty1865 Год назад +2

      fortunately as rain said he is only 27 and still hungry for more trophies and also said that karrigan still has a few more years which can mean as low as 2 years and as high as 5 years

  • @lehtipiffi
    @lehtipiffi Год назад +6

    When Karrigan is "always hungry for more", he is called "GOAT IGL". When I am "always hungry for more" I´m called "a fat slob". Smh the double standards in esports.

  • @cryfier
    @cryfier Год назад

    Great guy

  • @khomu604
    @khomu604 2 года назад +39

    best igl of all time

    • @stylebreaks757
      @stylebreaks757 2 года назад +8

      Glaive is 26, karrigan is 32. Glaive has 4 majors, karrigan has 1. Glaive made the game what it is today, karrigan did not.

    • @yomamaMTV
      @yomamaMTV 2 года назад +48

      @@stylebreaks757 gla1ve greatest
      karrigan best
      how many lineups did gla1ve make top 2? Only 1
      Karrigan? 4

    • @n55Rob
      @n55Rob 2 года назад +3

      @@stylebreaks757 it’s a debate now not as one sided as you think

    • @jakebarnidge2675
      @jakebarnidge2675 2 года назад +17

      @@stylebreaks757 gla1ve never did it with an international roster. He had the same roster for years, karrigan has had to deal with so many different teams. Gla1ve with a new roster and astralis are ass, karrigan took mousesports to world number 1 and this faze team to world number 1

    • @GetdonkedOn
      @GetdonkedOn 2 года назад +4

      @@yomamaMTV Being the best IGL means knowing how to handle egos imo. Karrigan took many names, nationality to the top while Glaive only had 1 roster in his 4 major wins. Now I'm not saying Glaive is not a top IGL he's top 1 in Major wins but he never really won outside the Astralis core just look at Astralis now. Karrigan led many teams to wins which helps his case being the best IGL imo.

  • @hampusj6047
    @hampusj6047 2 года назад +18

    Faze era baby

  • @MrMatom55
    @MrMatom55 2 года назад +44

    What a leader, get those reps in and let's see how are you doing against gla1ve in few years

    • @mindaugasmazrimas4554
      @mindaugasmazrimas4554 2 года назад +17

      lol, Glaive took an established team to the top with the help of a GOAT coach, where is he now? Fucking nowhere ;D The guy literally has almost all of the top Danish talent outside of heroic and still shits the bed. Glaive cant tie Karrigans shoes man. If Glaive gets this dogshit Astralis to the #1 spot this year it will be like Karrigan getting Mouse to #1. But, spoiler alert, that aint happening

    • @_Lodii
      @_Lodii 2 года назад +27

      @@mindaugasmazrimas4554 you're talking shit about a guy that won 4 majors, 3 in a row. Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about

    • @MrMatom55
      @MrMatom55 2 года назад +9

      @@mindaugasmazrimas4554 I am talking about a GOAT IGL status, gla1ve still have 4 majors, you gotta respect that. Even though I think karrigan's path to his trophies is more respectable, he still needs more trophies to surpass gla1ve in that all time title.

    • @spawnnpwn4166
      @spawnnpwn4166 2 года назад +3

      @@mindaugasmazrimas4554 Glaive showed the cs world that you can be a great fragger while being an igl. If you followed CS long enough, you'd know how much glaive and co changed the meta.

    • @berkakalin7207
      @berkakalin7207 2 года назад

      @@mindaugasmazrimas4554 4 times major winner and 1 time major winner with help of superstar team omegalul

  • @matthewtam7645
    @matthewtam7645 2 года назад +2

    If the Faze boys are able to pull off an era like Astralis or even better I'm gonna lose my mind

  • @operatorpralki322
    @operatorpralki322 Год назад +21

    To be honest, there is no chance for them to make an era like astralis. Nowadays overall skill is so much higher, teamwork is majority of succes. If they are going to play like that, other teams gonna preper against them harder and harder. Same situation was with Navi and their nuke etc.

    • @imnick1880
      @imnick1880 Год назад +8

      Maybe not era, but the same legacy. They have still years to come. Them lifting 4 more majors in the years to come isnt something insane to say. The three of them have atleast 5 more years to create that legacy.

    • @dendankegamer
      @dendankegamer Год назад

      @@imnick1880 Yea, but rain and karrigan are huge for the team, but with the right recruitment for sure

    • @ATROFlAR
      @ATROFlAR Год назад +2

      Overall skill was already high back then. Not sure about it being higher to be honest. Astralis never had the best players, they just had the best teamplay

    • @glared
      @glared Год назад +1

      @@ATROFlAR That’s the point it’s a team game no matter how hard a carry is carrying just to mention NiKo who is just cursed but relies too much on individual plays. Just like people play for frags in pugs instead of playing for rounds using each round’s seconds 😅

  • @frostypw3045
    @frostypw3045 Год назад

    I am really glad that karrigan and Faze at all won this major, my heart stood with Navi, and the fact that I saw them lose yet another Major Final made me a bit upset.

  • @Thelittlesthoboson
    @Thelittlesthoboson Год назад +7

    Hes so humble, he literally brings a new team to the major every time after building them up and honing their talents and breathing new life into players then getting booted after getting the team into the top 10. There's no doubt hes the goat IGL

    • @killertale1538
      @killertale1538 Год назад +2

      gla1ve said hello

    • @hejaheja5039
      @hejaheja5039 Год назад +1

      Glaive evolved astralis teamplay to another level, leveled up Magisk, won with Kyerbae, but Karrigan started the Dupreeh, Xyp, Device trio to play better . It may be Glaive but Karrigan did his great role in a few more teams which is more amazing.

    • @Thelittlesthoboson
      @Thelittlesthoboson Год назад

      ​@@killertale1538 If glaive can bring another set of players to a major final or even win then maybe we can talk about it. But i highly doubt we will ever see that happen

    • @killertale1538
      @killertale1538 Год назад

      @@Thelittlesthoboson he won it 4 times with a team karrigan couldn't win

    • @Thelittlesthoboson
      @Thelittlesthoboson Год назад +1

      @@killertale1538 ok. but theres no evidence to prove he can do the same with any other lineup than that one, which is what makes a truely great leader, not just a correlation between winning with the same lineup a few times.

  • @ArunKumar-bp5lo
    @ArunKumar-bp5lo Год назад +5

    During Astralis era they were way ahead of any team with there new strats, utils and other teams were changing teams but with this Navi & Faze are 50/50 one can beat another easily in the next encounter.

  • @vostro6527
    @vostro6527 Год назад +1

    2022-the year of faZe 🍎🍎🍎

  • @m3lch1
    @m3lch1 Год назад

    Goat IGL. No doubt

  • @pando9201
    @pando9201 Год назад

    W karrigan

  • @zihuatenejo
    @zihuatenejo Год назад +1

    Doubt it, once he takes a break like he said, all this momentum will die down and they will get dethroned, they need to keep playing until they get burned out like astralis

  • @Kriks94trolls
    @Kriks94trolls Год назад

    Rain have always been a superstar for me atleast ( Norwegian ) :D

  • @Ilovepie985
    @Ilovepie985 2 года назад +1

    Best IGL

  • @DramStihe
    @DramStihe Год назад

    Rain pulled off some legit major winning shit

  • @iwnl_vale
    @iwnl_vale 2 года назад +48

    He's better than Glaive.

    • @stylebreaks757
      @stylebreaks757 2 года назад +15

      True right now, but not all time. Glaive is 26, karrigan is 32. Glaive has 4 majors, karrigan has 1. Glaive made the game what it is today, karrigan did not.

    • @272vanditsharma8
      @272vanditsharma8 2 года назад

      Common knowledge

    • @federicob9103
      @federicob9103 2 года назад +6

      Undoubtedly. A major with an international team is a better achievement than any other.

    • @yessirski753
      @yessirski753 2 года назад +11

      @@federicob9103 1 major with an international team is a better achievement than 4 majors? Good joke mate

    • @travisb1o0m19
      @travisb1o0m19 2 года назад

      @@yessirski753 its worth like 2 imo

  • @TacticalSocks
    @TacticalSocks Год назад

    And people still complain about him having negative stats most of their matches, they don't understand he mostly tries to get info. and positional knowledge of the other team; sometimes he gets an opening (especially when playing ct side, or pushing through smokes like nothing matters), sometimes he may not, but that reflects the amount of trust he has on the rest of the team to win the round.

    • @bassie756
      @bassie756 Год назад

      I think recently his playstyle and mechanics have actually evolved. I think he realized there is less need for aggression on ct side because of the m4a1-s meta. It's on t-side where he still makes his aggressive plays but unlike before he is usually in a tradeable position or he actually gets the entry kills (just look at the triple entry he got on inferno vs navi).

  • @Chavanun555
    @Chavanun555 Год назад

    Is this his 2nd time to the grand final?

  • @harambe9461
    @harambe9461 2 года назад

    They need a grand slam

  • @TeamEmperor
    @TeamEmperor 2 года назад

    Astralis: Hold that COVID for us.

  • @SpeedwAvE_
    @SpeedwAvE_ Год назад +1

    Love this for Karrigan and Rain. They have been waiting for this moment and working hard to get a major for years now. Mark my words when I say this, NiKo will never win a major.

  • @theswanson8099
    @theswanson8099 2 года назад

    The writings was all over the wall. No doubt they could win.

  • @shtrier
    @shtrier Год назад

    I did think that they would beat NaVi, but not in a 2-0 fasion.

  • @teok8855
    @teok8855 2 года назад +37

    CadiaN should learn from Karrigan on how to behave and be a role model to young generations.

  • @LozempRemastered
    @LozempRemastered Год назад +7

    He might become the best IGL of 2022

    • @fazylucker8405
      @fazylucker8405 Год назад +1

      He is. No doubt

    • @knoxville6155
      @knoxville6155 Год назад +5

      He is. Won all three tier 1 LANs of the year. Even if hypothetically FaZe don't do too much for the rest of the year, the first five months have made enough for him to be contending for IGL of the year

    • @hampustornros
      @hampustornros Год назад +10

      He's the best IGL of all time. He has won a similar amount of tier 1 tournaments as gla1ve, but Karrigan has done it on like 5 different rosters while gla1ve only managed to do it on a roster that Karrigan literally built himself.

  • @izhanarif1542
    @izhanarif1542 Год назад +1

    next astralis? Tall order but nothing is impossible

  • @faqihabdurrahman
    @faqihabdurrahman 2 года назад

    dont say that, bc you got kicked before Astralis be the prime
    i want you be the core of prime FaZe

  • @gazanlock126
    @gazanlock126 2 года назад

    wouldn't say they're the next astralis. their playstyle is way different. still insane players tho

  • @ivo3598
    @ivo3598 2 года назад +3

    Is another major this year coming up by the end of the year?

    • @4amv
      @4amv 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I think there's 1 more this year

    • @paul_nord
      @paul_nord 2 года назад

      @@4amv in Dallas, Texas, USA if I'm correct...

    • @harambe9461
      @harambe9461 2 года назад +2

      @@paul_nord no. Dallas is an iem event not a major.

    • @yomamaMTV
      @yomamaMTV 2 года назад

      in November bra

    • @Jack-di1ho
      @Jack-di1ho Год назад

      @@paul_nord iem dallas isnt a major but there is gonna be another major this year.

  • @xnation7128
    @xnation7128 Год назад +1

    Well they definitely doesn't gonna be like Astralis because G2 and Navi would be 100x times prepared than they last time

    • @ad3mn
      @ad3mn Год назад +1

      I want G2 win smth finally, but there is smth that doesnt click. The crowd had quite a lot of Vita and G2 fans and its a shame they didnt make it to the playoffs.

    • @xnation7128
      @xnation7128 Год назад

      @@ad3mn actually G2 deserves a major win but also navi deserves his second one

  • @rhb4856
    @rhb4856 2 года назад +7

    "Has this made you hungry for more" "I'm always hungry" C'mon, that's a setup. You set karrigan up with that question. And it's NOT funny at all. Not one bite.

  • @400elochess
    @400elochess 2 года назад

    @astralis be careful

  • @marquisdesade6049
    @marquisdesade6049 Год назад

    bro at least win 2 consecutive major before talking like astralis in its finest and lets see what u do on iem dallas omfg these dudes bruh win 1 major and are like we rock the world xd

  • @Abhinavshiva
    @Abhinavshiva 2 года назад

    i want old astralis to return back.

  • @rudrapawar3950
    @rudrapawar3950 Год назад

    Only astralis can be astralis, when Navi could not do back to back major let's see how epic failure will be in next major.

  • @NeusCs
    @NeusCs 2 года назад

    Win 3 majors in a row for that to happen

  • @mach1neg
    @mach1neg 2 года назад

    yeah no you will never reach what astralis reached. those kings are untouchable. but still a very good game

    • @maozedong7838
      @maozedong7838 Год назад +1

      karrigan literally set astralis up to succeed and this lineup has potential to be among the greats

    • @mach1neg
      @mach1neg Год назад

      @@maozedong7838 astralis only succeeded because glaive came in. He's the better igl that lead the team

    • @maozedong7838
      @maozedong7838 Год назад +2

      @@mach1neg that is such a surface level way of looking at that

    • @mach1neg
      @mach1neg Год назад

      @Meh well astralis with karrigan choked every single tournament. Gla1ve joined and literally 2 months later they won their first major. then they struggled a little and then won 3 in a row as well as countless regular tournaments. so. back to back with karrigan and glaive and 2 months later glaive won them a major. id say thats rather comparable

    • @LearHLuck
      @LearHLuck Год назад +2

      @@mach1neg look at glave now

  • @emanuelecampora1999
    @emanuelecampora1999 2 года назад +2

    Where is this "History"? What is he even talking about?

    • @theshooterman3
      @theshooterman3 2 года назад +28

      first international team to win a major

    • @theshooterman3
      @theshooterman3 2 года назад +27

      also the oldest person to win a major

    • @khuey760
      @khuey760 2 года назад +21

      first canadian, norweigan, estonian, and latvian players to win majors, as well as the other replies

    • @sunbae-nim
      @sunbae-nim 2 года назад +6

      bro is this ur first time watching CS???

    • @ChevroOVTM
      @ChevroOVTM 2 года назад +4

      this has to be bait