Hey guys! this is a pretty heated topic so please do remember to be respectful and voice your opinions in survey's that mediatonic sometimes hold that's _one_ of best way to guarantee they'll see your concerns. #SaveFallGuys
Yeah.. removing it altogether would cause more problems then it would solve but that's my take on it of course. Thankfully the LTM's don't have sbmm but they lack round variety which can get boring at times, but good for practicing skips and shortcuts if the map has any!
Watching this, I realized why I randomly "didnt feel like" playing the game after new season dropped. I thought I just lost interest but it's actually because of the reasons in the video. Thanks for putting them together and making a list
Limited round pool killed it for pros and newbies alike. They didn't introduce variants for a over a year and when they did they made it overstay its welcome.
Yeah what's the point of variations if you're so desperate to show them off that you lose variation. Would be so much more fun if most if not all maps were available all the time, and their variations could be completely random, so each time playing a map feels different, instead of playing the same 5 games every single time
Thank you for explaining this. Most of the stuff you mentioned makes a lot of sense. I really hate how the economy is played out on the game. Especially for showbucks and kudos. I also don't like how the daily/weekly challenges makes you want to earn kudos when you're put up with randoms in squads or duos. There was a moment when I was unable to unlock the hex a gon pattern skin on the hex a trials event because I have to be playing on duos & squads instead of "Hex a Gon" modes. It's so absurd.
The intention is to get you to play with other people you know, which is good enough but the amount of people that just disconnect sucks. Also, there's been a lot of crashing recently that has contributed to that. Not unplayable but there was a switch player I played with that disconnected only when the portals were on screen.
As someone who plays duos regularly (I got a friend who also plays the game, so this is the perfect way to play for us), one of my biggest problems besides the lack of maps, it's the fact that now you got team rounds in this mode. If I wanted to play with random people I'd just go to squads but no, if you're lucky you'll get no team round but now you usually get one near the end and it's really frustrating losing because the game decided to throw a team round with strangers.
@@Izzytorium I think they added them last season and people complained for a good reason and they still decided to keep them and yes, it sucks whenever we almost get to the final round and lose because of soccer.
@@crashnebula7 The teams round you usually get in duos are: Jinxed, hoopsie daisy (these two usually around the third or second round), basketball and soccer are near the end.
Eh, it would be weird if all Team modes were exclusive to Squads and in Solos people would complain that it wouldn't be a true Solo experience anymore as a random team could drag you down. Though I can see how it's frustrating if you lose in the semi-final round because of a random team constellation. I think it would be more appropriate to introduce a team round on round 2-3 max to make it less punishing.
I genuinely didn’t know about the changing language strategy to restart your game, that’s super clever. But yeah I’ve been keeping up with a lot of the whole savefallguys drama recently and this video explains it so well. Great job
Thanks so much for making this amazing video, Izzy. I had seen # savefallguys trending, but was a bit confused as to what the community really wanted to be changed. This video explained everything really well and now I have a better understanding about why people are angry about the state of fall guys. I especially agree with the points you made about the economy and live events, and definitely feel they need to be changed/reworked in the near future.
Made this video for people who might be wondering what the heck is going on and to air out some problems I've had with the game, finally got that out of my system haha.
Well put! I agree with all your points. I'm actually getting a little bored because of the small pool of maps that I encounter. I miss some of the maps like slime climb, track attack, etc. And the economy in game is horrible, I always don't have enough kudos to buy some of the cute skins even if I play the game and complete the challenges daily. I hope they do better.
I feel bad for new players cause us old beans have accumulated hundreds of thousands of Kudos and can buy the Kudos skins easily if we want and even have full skins and didn't have to pay a dime for them cause we could earn them by playing the game. I don't mind when they remove a map due to a bug or if it could cause seizures but removing for unknown reasons and not letting us know is just unacceptable imo. I hope they make dailies give you 2K Kudos instead of 200.
I always stay away from drama *as in not partaking in it* but this came up in the beta bean discord. I noticed your video and decided to give it a try, just to get an idea of what's going on. Very informative and objective! Thank you! I love Fall Guys dearly as it got me through the pandemic (been playing since launch day) but I never realized the more recent problems after it went F2P wasn't just me and was actually the developers! What irks me the most is that bugs I report in beta testing STILL make it into the live show 🙃 And showbucks, but you covered all that well. I love Fall Guys and I hate to see what's happening. Hopefully things will turn around for our loveable beans soon!
I always see comments on the fall guys subreddit (r/fallguysgame) that says something to the like of beta testers tell MT about issues, but they don't listen, like it could've been handled there but guess we all need to experience it for some reason. I got this game when season 4 was new and am glad I did because I don't know if I would still be playing the game if I got it when it went F2P.
I completely agree with you Izzytorium! The biggest part for me is their HUGE LACK OF COMMUNICATION it's HORRIBLE and yet after 2 years of the game being released, they still haven't fixed bugs from day 1 and won't even tell us WHAT THE HECK Is going on right now. It's sad I always hope they change but they always squish that when they release a DUMB tweet saying Hi heres a picture of long legs. ITS SO FRUSTRATING. What's the saddest part was is that it was trending on twitter and yet Fall Guys (Mediatonic) didn't even at least give a little acknowledgement to it. Im sorry if it came across as heated but these issues are just very frustrating.
What I see is a systematic approach to make new players happy and legacy players leave, who are less likely to spend more money on this game. - SBMM: let the skilled players fight against ragdoll, body block, desync, bad spawn in early rounds and each other in the final; give the newbies free wins to get them hooked. - Infestation of team games in Duos and Squads: lower the win rate of good players and make newbies happy, whose % of qualifying on their own is less than 50% or 66% - Limiting maps and variations: new players can learn "the whole game" quicker because there are fewer maps, while invalidating old players' experience on other maps and variations. New players are not aware of the removed maps or variations anyways. I'm not even mentioning the crown-to-kudo conversion.
You hit nail on the head, new people install and play this game every day so the game is never in short supply of them, plus casual players are more likely to purchase something as well, whereas pro players already have dozens of costumes they can wear and are less likely to buy things with IRL money.
I don't play Solo Show that often anymore but had to for one of the Live Events it required to win Solo Show and really noticed how repetitive the maps have gotten, sometimes they'll appear in the same order. Never seen Air Time as a round 1 though so that's odd but it appearing in the same spot multiple times is believable.
@@Izzytorium Yea I have gotten sick of the Map situation. I took a break from Fall Guys in September of 2022 and came back. Jeez the map rotation is horrendus.
Thank you so much for making this video Izzy!! The majority of comments I was seeing on Twitter and the Twitch stream just felt really demanding and unreasonable so I'm really thankful to get this kind of explanation so I can understand what the issues really are.
Yeah, sounds like social media alright, lol. I'm grateful to be providing a more "balanced" perspective with of course my opinion sprinkled in. Thanks for watching danyeal!
The only things I've had issues with is the map variety, it can get boring...but more annoyingly, half the time it feels like my teammates in Squads disconnect or play terribly. It feels like a waste of time trying to beat squad missions
Yeah, map variety is an issue that affects everybody regardless of skill level, Fall Guys works differently than most BR games where it relies on its maps to keep you playing whereas in other BR's like Fortnite, Apex Legends etc each game can be played very differently you don't get that benefit in fall guys since _most_ maps are pretty linear and you play them the same each time, if you keep showing the same maps over and over you'll probably be taking the same path over and over again which makes the game feel like a chore. Also, games of fall guys are the same no matter if you're playing Squads, Duo's or the LTM's it's just regular fall guys so that doesn't help either.
Game went F2P, they gotta make money somehow, plus so many people have a chance to play this wonderful yet buggy game. And as someone who got this game during legacy season 4, I feel your rage.
anyone remember when the end of OG season 6 was supposed to send out "the most important message in the history of fall guys"? it's a shame they cancelled it.
I agree with your analysis. More importantly, I'm so glad you played that version of Hyperdrive Heroes while talking. It goes to one of the points you made. I started playing at the end of July 2022. I've played Whirlygig so much it is getting beyond boring. I've played that version of Hyperdrive Heroes about 5 times. So, every time it comes up, even though I've gotten good results during the show, I know I won't get to the final because I haven't played it enough to learn it and get through. I'm good, but not good enough to out maneuver players who've played it many times before. Thanks for the video.
That's hoverboard heroes, hyperdrive is the new one with the ion thrusters at the start. But yeah I've played so much hex a Gone that it's getting stale
A lot of people do, but more people are playing the game which makes me happy, they just need to tweak SBMM and get Better at communicating. Map maker will change the game and hopefully for the better
For me the biggest disappointment is just lack of control for how I play, especially with friends; there's not a practice mode, there's not a way for me to play a show with a just a small group of friends, there's not a way for me to play the shows I want to play, there's not an alternative queue for special modes like cops and robbers when they're not in the main rotation, etc.
Sweet Thieves? Never heard someone refer it to as that, makes sense though, practice mode would be nice, map maker will be added to the game eventually so maybe people will make practice maps there, fall guys probably won't add a practice mode cause it goes against the games casual nature
i don't know if people wanna know why compagnies do this at 9.15 but i'll lay it out for you. This is purely a marketing price tactic to trick the subconscious of your brain to make you feel like the whole 800 showbucks instead of the 700 is a very good deal because, who would be stupid enough to buy only a part for 700 am I right. That way they divert the attention that you'll still be spending 800 showbucks or 10 bucks on your costume. Epic is not expecting you to buy only part of the costume. Apple does this too when they reveal a new product. When a new product comes on the market let's say the iphone 14, they'll bring out another model, (iphone 13+) and sell the 13+ at a higher price to just divert your attention and make the Iphone14 seem like a good deal. That being said I don't see these tactics changing anytime soon, Epic has mastered those price tactics with fortnite and those prices will always be unfair :p - coming from a guy whos in his 3th year marketing and that was one of the things i had to study on how to scam people lol this is a great video, keep it up!
I completely agree with everything you've listed in this video and I'm surprised you actually covered as much as you did in such a concise and understandable way. I've started playing the game in SS1 and have about 600 hours with 1650 crowns already so it's safe to say I'm invested in this game and I know what I'm doing, but some of the things you listed in this video I didn't even know about yet, like the changing language trick to update your crown shards. I agree with you about SBMM, all I ever see are skilled players complaining that they lose more games because they are in the harder lobbies which is exactly what is supposed to happen, although I understand that there are inadequacies with the system itself and its difficult to address without fracturing the player counts between so many gamemodes. Something else I wanted to mention is the fact that I struggle so much at certain times of the day to get into lobbies where I don't have red bars even if I know most of the players are from my region (Australia). I'm not exactly sure whether this is due to server quality, lack of servers, lack of players or problems with server selecting through the game but I wish there was something that could be done about this. In summary, great video and I'm glad a Fall Guys content creator has finally made a video addressing this, because no offence to other creators but I feel like they ignore these issues as much as Mediatonic/Epic Games for the sake of their 'brand' and content.
Fun fact, if the game can't find a lobby in your region, it'll put you in another region, even if you have it set to a specific region which could explain the red bars. It also does if it can't find a lobby with people near your rank too
@@Izzytorium I would happily wait an extra couple of minutes for a server with good connection (white bars or above) to be available because it can be frustrating playing specific modes or maps where connection plays a huge part of whether you have a good chance of winning or not (Fall Ball, Volleyfall, Basketball etc) and you end up just wasting 10-15 minutes of your time anyway in these lobbies. Lately I've just resorted to leaving any lobbies I get into with red bars but it can be seriously frustrating doing this constantly over a play session of 1-8 hours.
A recent glitch I kept encountering during squads is for the pixel picture game..if you get it in the first round, it's almost certain that it's glitched since 2-3 teams will share the same platform instead of just having 1 team.. And speaking of squads, I've also encountered being included in squads with only 2 members. I've even experienced bwing alone in a squad for the first round. But given a lot of glitches so far that are not being fixed, I'm not keeping my hopes up.
I’m personally split on sbmm, I like the idea of putting players of different skill levels in different matches, but I don’t like how maps get locked in the lower levels
Kinda good news is that mediatonic tweaked it to where you can climb the tiers a bit faster then before which means you won't be stuck in low tiers for too long but we don't know much else, though that means you have a higher chance of being put in lobbies with pros, but its a balancing act really and I hope they continually tweak SBMM
I was wondering why I haven't seen Space Race in a while or never got to play Bubble Trouble at all. The other games modes however seem to have been re added. Skill based match-making needs to be a priority with squads and duos. I often find myself loosing in the first or second round of squad shows cos the rest of the players in my team don't know how to get to the finish line. Also leaving the game after your squad is dead before the round is over is a much needed update. Recently they added previews for victory animations however with is a godsend! I had no idea how much they nerfed the kudos earnings. The live events lasting super long or locked quests is annoying as well. It's not so bad tho if your suffering from Fall Guys burnout 😓
So happy they added previews for celebrations and it shows the skin you're wearing too which is great. Map variety was at an all time low when I made this video, map count is at 40 as of SS3 which is an improvement. Looking back at SS2 the beginning was fun cause all the maps were in the game including the new ones but after the miku event it went downhill.
My only problem with the Kudos is the exchange rate. Old players who accumulated crowns had their crowns traded in for KUDOS even though those same groups of players (I myself) had thousands upon thousands of kudos! This would be great except they completely revamped the store and allowed EVEN LESS kudos items than they had before. Not to mention that this friggin Kudos Shop resets EVERY WEEK. So I’m sitting here with like 450K Kudos, staring at the same “SuNhAt” item while slowly dying inside. My major problem is that the crown to kudos exchange should have been crowns to show-bucks. Of course, this wouldn’t give Epic as much money from show-bucks purchases. Yet the whole point of F2P wasn’t to focus on gaining money from those old players, but instead bring in new ones. I think that converting crowns to show-bucks would be a way better choice as then old players might still enjoy the game.
I wish they made it so OG players could earn show bucks via daily challenges something akin to how OG save the world fortnite players were able to earn V bucks from the Daily challenges, think it was 100 V bucks if I recall correctly. I'm glad I spent most of my Kudos and crowns on stuff before the change happened, still have some stuff I couldn't buy but I bought most of the store thankfully.
Honestly, I entirely agree The way you explained all this was well done. Though, the thing I agree the most is the small things like the squads rewards, little bugs, item shop previews etc. But the ones I want fix or dealt with NOW? Definetly skill based matchmaking (because I like the idea, not the execution) and the maps issue. I don't care if this variations stay, I just want to play everything, in multiple variations I want more maps dang it
I like the Season 2 variants I really do but would love to see it mixed in with the other variants too. SBMM needs to be tweaked especially in the higher brackets to make it so it's not a complete sweat fest but that's easier said then done.
Great video and I couldn't agree more. Played squad yesterday and every time it was 7 rounds when there was 40ppl playing. I was like "hm.. this didn't happen before",pretty frustrating.
Its a good thing I didn't get too invested in Fall Guys. Bought it on Steam, played it for an hour, didn't touch it after. A few months later, Fall Guys is removed from Steam, No Refunds. Thanks Epic! Wasted my Time and Money!
Even with all the issues, I still love this game, sad to hear people leave or get bored of the game that brought me so much of joy, but it's understandable game is in the worst state its been since it released.
I completely agree with all of these points. I’m a new comer to Fall Guys when it became free back in June. I’ve loved it for a while because it takes no skill at all. But over time I have gotten bored over it. I do also think it’s frustrating with matchmaking and the store. I can literally carry my team in Duos or Squad, but because they are new and trash I get eliminated. Personally the only issue I had when I first played was the store. Show bucks is a neat currency, but sometimes the prices go a bit overboard. Like I really wanted to get the Sonic costumes when they came out, but I didn’t have the show bucks and I missed my chance. Fall Guys is still a fun game imo and I would hate for it to die again, but maybe if Mediatonic and Epic fix the bugs and bring more new map content, this game can strive again.
I remember back when I got the game in legacy season 4, the wait for the seasons and updates were getting longer and longer, season 6 lasted _half a year_ I'm just grateful that new players don't have to experience that long of a wait, definitely a back in my day moment lol. However they just ripped V bucks and didn't tweak it at all, prices just don't make sense, they didn't sense during season 1 FFA.
@@Izzytorium I wish I could’ve played back in 2020, but it was rough year for me because I was forced to online school and that put more pressure and stress on me.
i can agree, the limited round pool just kinda sickens me after like i get the same “big fans” round 8-9 times just in 30 minutes and me getting tired and bored if their goal is to keep players playing by shrinking the round pool, its not working
I'm just glad to see an argument about SBMM that is more fair and not just "Remove SBMM entirely" I find it fair for new players, but like what you said it needs improvement since new players would just find golden knights or golden witches in their low tier lobbies.
13:46 rlly , i thought they will be added at end of season pass , i never noticed , i grinded crowns and fame in this repetitive rewards event , i loved it , now i can work and wait for special event or next season , my main reason was fame and also 3 days more then 200 crowns or 250 or 270 idk lost count
I find grinding to be so boring idk why, but have been doing it cause of the repeatable challenges, and managed to climb half a rank which is decent i guess.
10:50 It's funny that this image shows the 'Checked Out' pattern, because that's exactly what I did after all this. Got the game about a month after launch, previous experience with platformers meant I was decently skilled, and played at least once a week before the move to F2P; but at this point the last time I played was for the Sonic event and I honestly don't see myself coming back. I'm even on the community beta testing server and couldn't be bothered to check out SS2 early. The most puzzling thing about SBMM is that it's not in any of the Squads modes (duos, trios or quads), when surely that's where it's needed most. All too often your team will end up with at least one of those players who'd get timed out on Big Fans, and no matter how well you do there's just no making up for it. The other thing I recently came to realise is that with random matchmaking, the more skilled you became, the better your chance of winning. This seems to fit with the battle royale style of game that Fall Guys is. On the other hand, games that implement SBMM trade out that dynamic - matches are fairer, but as a player improves they find themselves winning just as much, since they're up against better opponents. This is fine, but it usually comes with more reward for winning at a higher skill tier. This part of the equation is missing from Fall Guys, and it only serves to sour the playerbase's opinion of the new system. I suppose it's to be expected though, after they ditched continuous rewards. One of the straws that broke the camel's back for me was that, after finishing the season pass and doing all the available challenges, that's basically all you get. You could be the last person eliminated, 2nd place in the whole lobby, and yet the space below the 'Show Rewards' text on the end screen would be completely empty. And it would still show the text too, just to rub it in. Maybe having you continue to earn Fame that gets you Crown Shards helps, but it's not going to pull me back.
Fall guys was the first multiplayer game I got good at or cared enough to play for more then an hour, so I'm not sure how SBMM works in other games, interesting to hear that you get more rewards for winning at a higher skill tier. Kudos should've still been earnable, but with the Kudos store the way it is idk if it would've been worth it, Kudos costumes are some garbanzo beans. Part of me thinks MT didn't add SBMM to the other modes was just it would've broken the points system they use so they just didn't bother. I wish I remembered to mention how you don't get anything if you lose upon completing the pass, had way too much to cover in so little time, if I ever make this type of video again I'll mention it.
tbh show bucks are way cheaper as compared to weaker currencies , fall guys dont rlly care about other continents or countries 1 USD = 82 INR and no 82 INR is worth way more then 1 USD in US , our currency lowered but the Purchasing power parity is same this is biggest bane for us i mean sometimes its so boring or you feel awkward when you are the only one with no other emotes or celebration rather then default . The 1000 show bucks cost 666 INR which is a lot to spend everytime on a ingame cosmetic , you can at least get good and very tasty 6-9 small pizzas in india with that money everytime i play fall guys i wish i bought it earlier and played and stacked more outfits at least make price according to ppp of a country like 666 INR = almost 30 USD and its 8 dollars for you guys so yea i am pissed FFA player cannot is do full achievements without spending , espcially weaker currencies cost a lot so i only bought a season pass still costed me 3x the price of original game price when on discount and yes all the game bugs and stuff you alr said
@@Izzytoriumikr ;) but i still ended up spending 3 times , i need cosmetics my bean feel discriminated i got 5k show bucks saved , waiting for cheap new costume bundles , and no i wont spend more ;c
What also sucks about squads and duos is that when like there are 56/60 players, instead of having one less squad, they like to have people with less people. It's so annoying when i play and end up losing because I had less teammates.
when fall guys got added to xbox i played it for about a week and had no idea that they put skill based matchmaking into the game, i got bored from the game cause every lobby just felt like a bot lobby and there was nothing fun about it. also i kept getting the same 2 maps over and over and over again.
If you're new they put you in the lowest bracket and limit the roundpool so you can learn the game without getting the harder maps, so you play the same maps over and over, climbing the brackets when S1:FFA came out was tough, now they made it easier to climb the brackets thankfully so you can experience the other maps, I understand why they did it, some maps are just plain tough for first timers but at the same time playing the same maps is boring. Duo's and Squads and the LTM's don't have SBMM so people could play those if they want.
Watching this and realizing how much better the item shop was during season 1-6 just makes me depressed on what I missed out on. If only we could revisit the legacy days 😔
Really was, grateful that I have most of the old cosmetics in the game, and also bummed I didn't buy some cause I wasn't interested, if I had known they would cost money sooner I would've grinded for them, oh well
Speed circut for example was added in the last season. Yet I've only played it once this whole season. And I've played hours of gameplay this season. Its insane how they just remove levels without any reason
Speed Circuit was removed cause of flashing gates and that could cause Seizures but they brought it back and removed it again for no reason, I got it while playing on stadium star show so they just removed it in the regular modes smh
This is so true, last week after a ton of nonsense of playing without getting anything from missions and the live event, I got really tired and said to my little brother that I won't play Fall Guys ever again, it was a huge waste of time, the kudos thing, the rewards, the maps, matching, errors, missions, man, why would I play it if I'm not having fun? Hope they do something about it, but right now I'm out of the game.
It's never one thing that stops people from playing its smaller issues compounding one after another over long periods of time that turns people off from Fall Guys.
I agree with most of everything you said in the video. One thing they need to start doing is rotate game maps in solo. I will get the same maps and get tired of playing on the same maps. It also sucks crown system is gone, it kill motivation to win games now since you get shards and that also is useless.
If you complete the season pass and lose you get nothing which is just an over sight, they increased it to 200 so most players should be earning something until the end of the season but for people who finish the pass, they have to win to earn something. Once this season is over I hope they bring back all the maps and its respective variants and try not to pull a stunt like this, as I said in the video you can show off your new map variants for a week but after that you gotta bring the other maps and its variants.
I think the kudos problem is also apparent for legacy players,i have 100k kudos that i don't know what to do with because i don't really like the tiny customizations that you can buy. I think they should add some of the older skins back on with kudos. they also need to balance things out by letting new players buy some cheap costumes and let the legacy players buy some of the more expensive costumes.
i got 40k with the change and i spent on stuff every now and then, now i have 200, the game never gives you enough for anything the system is complete garbage
You convince me,now I don't hate SBMM and I also think that a ranked mod wouldn't be a good idea😅,but SBMM should definitely be reworked,and this is how I would rework it : Instead of 3 bracket,why not only 2 ? One for the new players and noobs,and another one for everyone else ! The bracket 1 will have 20 bots(they will stay until round 3 and they'll leave shortly after)and all the maps will be unlocked,except the hard ones(Slimescrapper,Hyperdrive Heroes etc) The bracket 2 will have 0 bots,and all the maps will be unlocked
Feel like that would make it to where newbie players could get into pro lobbies too quickly, and get destroyed. Though I do like the idea of unlocking more maps which could increase variety!
@@Izzytorium You're right,if noobs get on pro lobbies too quickly,it could be even worse than the actual SBMM. So I think that the bracket 1 could be only for players with under 100 crowns
I really, REALLY hate the microtransactions. Something I loved about the game was that you'd get currency and skins by playing the game, and you couldn't even buy the most valuable currency! I remember back in the day when seeing a bullet skin was a huge event, because nobody could really afford it at the time. Now you can just spend 12 dollars to get it. In april I made a review for the game saying: "I love this game but I hate epic games for buying it." I was gonna change that when ss1 dropped, but I'm not changing it anytime soon.
I'm thankful that I played this game back when you could earn stuff and have a backlog of costumes to wear, if I had started playing fall guys when it went free to play, I wouldn't be playing it still.
@@Izzytorium Same man, I worked and won games for my skins, I didn't steal my mom's credit card for the messenger skin. Lowkey my favorite skin in the game actually and ive never played the original game.
I legit only wear the worker upper and night owl faceplate but will change everything else. The old business model just wasn't reliable in today's market, it makes games more accessible but at the cost of overcharging the most basic of cosmetics and farming every last second of your time.
Fortnite also does the season pass thing (giving you enough of the games currency for the next one) and Fortnite does do discounted skins if you own a part of the bundle (kind of weird, because Epic Games owns both of these and won't put discounted bundles in Fall Guys)
Makes sense since epic owns both Fall Guys & Fortnite, they do discounted bundles in fall guys there are some skins I owned before the game went F2P and they became part of bundles and was able to get it cheaper then people who didn't own the skin.
Trust me, its an issue in the higher brackets also some LTM's that offer 2 crowns or has 3 rounds and the reward is 1 crown will have the sweats coming in droves, if anything I find the LTM's or limited time modes to be more sweaty then solo show, but if an LTM thats boring or offers little rewards like 20 shards or so are live then they go back to solo's.
I recently got a Xbox Series S and started playing many games I've missed out on, Fall Guys being one of them. While I had fun, some stuff frustrated me. Many of them were addressed in this video. I'm subscribing.
I used to play fall guys so much I have 300 wins since show bucks got added there was no reason to play beyond the pass which I completed in about a month and haven't played since as there was a lack of new content and a motive to keep playing that content
the thing is about the show bucks is that when you guy the season pass for 950 show bucks you get like 1 300 show bucks from the seasion pass sp if you buy one you can by infinite season passes and after a couple seasons you can by skins
Thanks a lot for making this video Izzy I feel like a lot of this imformation is really important, expecially seeing how mediationic has been silent about the whole situation and seems like there not even tweeting about any reasoning or explanation. SBMM is so broken, as I have been able to gwet into lobbies with people wearing golden costumes, for god sake I haven't even unlocked the full beanbot outfit. I actually like SBMM becuase I am not at a really high crown rank but at least mediatonic needs to fix SBMM and make it correct and not completly broke it as I am able to get into lobbies that have so many more crowns then me.
Yeah of course! Made this video for the average player who might not know about the issues this game has, I don't use social media myself but have been going through tweets and reddit posts trying to see what the heck is going on and decided to relay that information to you guys
Yeah man, I bought the game on March 26th, 2021 been more then a year since I got into Fall Guys, felt like yesterday I got the game for the first time!
Even tho skill based match making is not on different modes I am a golden knight and I get 5 to 8 golden chicken’s and I am so annoyed because of the lag and lose against these people
Yeah they really need to find a way to fix the point system in squads and duos. Missing just 1 teammate is already a 25% disadvantage in terms of points which is massive, especially in survival rounds like Perfect Match, Big Shots,… It’s also kind of frustrating to have to watch the whole round for like 2 minutes before able to “escape” and join another queue. Those 2 minutes stacking up will basically turn into 15-20 minutes very quickly.
Yeah in later rounds a 3 man squad won't be able to qualify because they don't have enough people gathering points, I wish the game would punish people who leave but that probably won't happen cause its a casual game
03:00 I'm still a beginner, but I've played splatoon for a long time. Let me tell you: having separate ranked and casual modes is a blessing. Fall Guys is a huge game, I don't think it'll have trouble filling lobbies. The great thing about separate ranked and casual modes is that people can play more in tune of what they feel like playing. Do you want to be competitive? Play ranked. Do you just want to have fun? Play casual. This will also up player retention, because people will be able to play what they want more.
Not sure if splatoon has a leaderboard and stuff like that, but fall guys should have that infrastructure before adding a ranked mode and in a way, solo show is a pseudo ranked. But there are positives to departing ranked and casual for sure, dozens of games do it, though I don't play or have played other Battle Royales longer then 2 hours so I'm not sure how ranked is implemented there.
@@Izzytorium Splatoon has a ranking system from C- to X rank. I think you're right, Fall Guys would need to have some infrastructure for ranks before implementing it. (It took Nintendo 3 splatoon games to get it right XD)
To me the biggest flaws with Fall Guys are SBMM, performance on the Switch and the latest removal of Coyote Time. For me Fall Guys is THE definition of a casual experience. It's not about being the best out of 60 players but about being part of the experience and qualifying the longest. But I understand that people want to win occasionally which is borderline impossible when you got a sweatlord in your lobby. So on paper SBMM sounds like a good thing. But eventually you're gonna get the hang of the controls which is when you get into the sweaty bracket: People start to play Meta and utilize every option to maximize their chances to win and if you don't play along you'll continue to lose. Now it's not about casual fun anymore, but about skill and grinding. And that's not what I associate Fall Guys with, which is why I currently stick to Duos and Trios only where the casual experience is still kinda maintained. In addition the performance on the Switch wasn't great already in Season 1, got even worse with season 2 and at the moment my game keeps crashing in the middle of matches about 3 times in 2 hours (mainly on maps like cosmic spewdway). Add the low FPS and lag with the removal/nerf of coyote time (the slim window where you can still jump after leaving a ledge) and it's a frustrating experience overall.
I believe they said there looking into the issue with jumps along with the see saw issues on Full Tilt & See Saw, so hopefully Coyete Time will be added back in, they removed it to fix the frame 1 bug where if you landed and jumped off a tile on the first frame it wouldn't crumble, people would abuse this and just keep on jumping on a tile forever and it never cracked/crumbled. Fall guys is still a battle royale at the end of the day and the goal is to win, maybe I'm too much of a sweat and haven't played this game casually in a long time but its always been cutthroat and I enjoy that aspect of it, however there are people who play it once or twice a week with there mates for about 2 hours, and I'm glad SBMM is in the game so those folks can enjoy themselves so I understand that part, just can't relate to it myself. They made it easier to climb to the higher brackets recently as well cause maps are locked behind the tiers so newbie players feel like they get put in sweat lobbies super fast. However when S1 FFA came out people kept asking why they kept getting the same 6 maps, cause they were in the low tier and couldn't get out of it, its a hard battle tweaking SBMM to where everyone is kinda satisfied with it.
@@Izzytorium I guess there are a lot of people who see this as a competitive game. Though I'd argue that as a F2P title the playerbase will always be big enough so that a special Ranked mode could be introduced and it would still be reasonably populated (especially if it raised the rewards for participating in it). At the end of the day my biggest issue is the difficulty gap between Solos and Duos/Squads. In Duos/Squads I can win occasionally and qualify 1st on race maps from time to time. On Solos one mistake is enough to not even qualify on Round 1. That makes it hard to justify playing Solos without intending to sweat. (As I wrote this comment my game crashed for the 3rd time today. Man the game is horrible on Switch!)
Switch crashes are just unacceptable, most casual players are probably playing on switch. Definitely agree on the skill gap between solo's and the squad modes, I always see more newbies go on the squad modes funny enough when solo's was made for them. I definitely want to make another video discussing if a ranked mode would work in this game, seems like an interesting topic.
I'm a new player and have been doing fairly okay in solo, but when me and my friends formed a squad, suddenly we weren't winning anymore and that sucked! Now I understand it's because solo has sbm while the rest doesn't and woah, that is awful!
When I first got fall guys in legacy season 3, I fell in love with the game. It was so fun. Now after the free to play. I don’t even want to look at the game in my Home Screen. I’ll get on occasionally. But I never have fun any more. I hate the rounds I get, I always get stompin ground, just in general every round I get, are the ones I hate. I wish I could just play causally like I did back before it was free to play, because I have like 500 wins. So I get really sweaty lobbies. And that also doesn’t make me have fun when I get on every now and then. I even tested this. I usually where my golden skins etc. I always get grabbed, always. I’m always getting griefed. Next round I went full default, I didn’t get grabbed once. And I won. Why can’t I just use the skin I want 😭 I shouldn’t have to strategize what skin I wear. Just, in general. They completely messed up the game and ruined it entirely. Glad I was playing when it was good. Because it was really a good time.
I wear my skin and don't get grabbed and the times I do is when people know who I am, very lucky it doesn't happen often, what I see golden players do is that they'll wear the high ranking nameplates like rossette or number one, as a way to flex rather then their golden skins. I will say I love stompin grounds but I do see where you're coming from, there are some rounds I'm not fond of thankfully there in Squads and I never play that mode but when I do have to play it for an event for example, I dread it. I still love playing this game, clearly the newer maps are fun and variants are fun as well but they just overstayed there welcome, I hope MT learned there lesson from this season, I do think this game can have its moment (legacy season 4 player here) but all in all it is still a good game with a lot of potential, map maker will change the game for sure
As a nintendo switch player who has had a nintendo switch for almost 5 years, 30 fps isn't bad once you're used to it. Cosmic highway is pretty playable if you're used to 30 fps. But if you just got a new switch i can really imagine how hard it would be playing on 30 fps. Cause i had to get used to it aswell and it was stupidly hard
Correct me if I'm wrong but there are games that are 60FPS on the switch, right? I did hear because of the 8.2.0. update that the game crashes while on the switch, they brought back the recording feature but got rid of it again due to it causing crashes. This video was made before that update but been hearing people on reddit say their game has been outright crashing which sucks, have you experienced this by any chance?
I'm pretty sure most 60 fps games in switch are nintendo/ exclusive switch titles, however i'm not exactly sure of this. And i've had my switch crash on me twice during the entire time i had it. And recording had been gone for almost 3 years, so i'm not surprised it crashed people's games since the recording is heavily outdated. But yeah. Your video was splendid btw! I forgot to mention that in my original comment and i do apologise for that
I'm assuming those crashes were you playing games other than fall guys? fall guys did enable recording on the switch port but took that away due to the game's performance tanking essentially. I normally make map guides so making this type of video was out of my comfort zone, definitely will be doing more of these in the future, glad to hear you enjoyed it!
9:59 Other games do this such as Fortnite, Brawl Stars, and Knockout City gives you enough currency for the next Battle Pass and a bit extra on top of that
Fortnite and Fall Guys you the same amount of currency according to a comment someone made which Is 1500. Not sure how much those games gives and how much there pass costs
As a new player who watched fall guys before f2p and only was able to get once it went to other platforms, my problem is the lack of progression. This game is fun and all but I don't feel like I'm ever acomplishing something because almost all the progression is locked behind paywalls. When the game was first announced for other consoles for money, I was willing to pay to play it because I liked what they were doing with crossovers and events by having everything collectable with some time. Now there is practically nothing unless you buy the pass and I'm sure this plays a part in the player retention you are talking about in this video. Once you play around 5 hours you pretty much experience all there is to experience because there isn't anything else to it. The only free progression and customization there is just feels unmotivationing to obtain too (free pass having a reward every 5 or so tiers, crown progression taking a long time outside of crown shard quests). Not to mention how long it takes for decently sized updates despite now being partnered with epic... I just don't see fall guys returning to my recently played 5 until there is some massive change to the game.
I hope they add map maker to the game soon, and update it regularly could see people playing the game just for map maker. Hate how little fame you get from playing the game, makes it feel way to grindy to climb the season pass and the only real way to progress through the pass is to complete the weekly and daily challenges.
saw all these issues the day i came back to it due to it being free now, other people really have a longer resistance to these crappy practices but im glad theyre finally demanding changes
I wish they bring back the record button on the Nintendo Switch that's the only way I could make videos about it, but they removed it now I can't make videos of it now
What I don't like is pricing of skins 800 for 1 skin reduced it to 400 Bundle 1200 to 800 Victory from 700 to 200 Those premium patterns to 200 to 50 ( come on its just a texture ) Patterns and simple cosmetics that look like from Weekly challenge should not cost show bucks at all. Personally I feel older skins should cost less and the new ones should Lil higher. Also they need to add some cool skins for completing challenges most times I don't bother cause I don't need another back pack, hat, belt, ugly footwear is just lame imo Glitch that bugs me is lobby dropping some or all players after a match forcing you to reinvite, the part about not being to claim rewards after team is out is also my big gripe too I leave anyway im not sitting there for 4 minutes. Invisible rotating thrusters killed me alot I avoid em at all costs. FALLGUYS is very stingy on giving showbucks u get so many each bp and there's no challenges to earn more it's like at least give some per weekly challenges to give f2p players something to work for. If possible watch some dumb ads to earn some showbucks I bought mai Terry bundle, Pedro, hot dog are my fav skins I don't feel like I need anymore I used my left over showbucks I grind to lvl 100 on bp to get miku saving it for next bp
I'd consider buying a bundle If it was 800 and a celebration if it was 200 maybe even 400 but only if you can preview them which at the moment you can't which is just stupid imo.
i dont like how they just copy pasted the fortnite model without actually taking time to properly price stuff, even 800 for a skin is overpriced in fallguys, their skins are just not as detailed or good enough to be worth as much as a fortnite skin and the prices are all over the place, collabs cost 800 and then some super basic skins like the red panda and koala are 1200, neither feel worth it
I would really love to they add a "Mini-Pass" that unlocks among 20%-30% of the battle pass at the cost of 200 or 300 showbucks, so the most dedicated players can unlock a major part of the pass. (by the way it would be better if it let you unlock 200 showbucks + so dont have to play a lot of seasons to get the full pass
@@Izzytorium I explain, for example, if you buy the mini-pass, some of the levels that give showbucks will be unlocked. And if you reach those levels you will get the showbucks, so if you buy the mini-pass you will get extra showbucks, that you can save for the next pass, making it a lot easier to save showbucks for the f2p players.
fall guys needs a map creator or some type of mode maker and a game mode where people play community made maps and game modes endless amount of content and epic can even host competition to encourage more people to do it
They confirmed that a map maker is coming to fall guys! They did it back when they announced season 1 free for all actually, it was in early stages of development
I think another to fix skill based match making is to make a casual and comp mode where casual can have any player of any rank with the game allowing players to play the game even after getting eliminated and Competitive be normal Fall guys with skill based match making based off your win/loss ratio and your trophy amount
Allowing people to play after getting eliminated is something I don't see them doing cause it goes against the core values of the game, be the one to make it to the finish line of survive until the time runs out, plus if they try to add something like that I could see them breaking something. But making a ranked and casual mode is something I could see the game doing but at the same time I can't see them doing it either, they made solo show into a pseudo ranked mode.
I started playing very end of July 2020, I got a beta key for the last test they did but I admit I dropped off during season 2 because I was moving & not in a position where I could play Fall Guys, I was living in my aunt's sewing room for like half a year, long story. Anyways, back then, I bought halves to costumes, expecting to be able to get the other halves whenever they popped up in the shop again & then I return to show bucks, ugh. I have got discounts when bundles with pieces I already own pop up but it's like, there's parts of costumes I still don't have yet because I haven't seen it come up yet or I didn't want to pay so much for half a costume. FG skins do need to come down in price for sure, I felt awful spending as much as I did on it, I don't think I've ever sunk this amount of money into a game before & I didn't even buy much. Suppose I'm counting when the game released as well, I paid extra to get the bundle thing since I wanted the Ecto Pirate & I also bought a copy for a friend before it released because I was enjoying playing the beta & knew it was his sort of thing & it sounds like he enjoyed watching the people who were streaming the beta so there's that cost on top of paying for some skins this year, I admit there were some I absolutely wanted & went for them but I only do that for my must have skins. Really, the kudos system should be reworked a little, helps those unable or not willing to pay for skins like I have the luxury of getting ones for free back when the game was new, just had to earn the kudos for it or crowns if they were crown items but most of what I bought of the crown items were small things like face plates, many people today didn't have that & I feel for them. Heck, I started a second account just to see & yeah, after completing the ladder on the new account, if I only wore skins I bought with kudos or show bucks I earned, I looked like a noob & when I wore something off the ladder, it didn't feel significant, reminded me of when I did beta & there was no shop so people wore either the bonus costumes or stuff off the ladder.
I got into Fall Guys when season 4 came out back in late March 2021, bought it on sale and fell in love with the game was great how you could earn currencies and use them to buy things, if I got into the game during season 1 FFA I don't think I would've stuck around. Kudos system needs to be reworked badly and something I could see happening cause you don't buy Kudos anymore. Never see OG beta testers around these days so cool to see one, we'll cool to me anyways lol.
@@Izzytorium Sometimes I see them in my games, funny thing one time I was wearing Crash Tester when doing squads with my friend for our dailies but I was targeted a lot so I changed into a different costume & we ended up with someone wearing crash tester in our squad that following match. We're still around, just not as many around anymore. I did see so many of them streaming back before Fall Guys released & watched a bit to see if I could learn some stuff because I sucked so badly at the game back then.
@@ToontownAndCpenguin They gave crash testers to people who joined at lest one session of the season 1 free for all beta, I'm one of those lucky few, literally joined the very last session, didn't know I got accepted to join the beta till I checked my email randomly which showed the timings for it, didn't get a "congrats you're in the B.O.B!" Type email.
@@Izzytorium Oh yeah, so it's hard to know who were originals that got in. Kinda funny, I ended up grabbing an old glitch on camera, I have a record button on my laptop & I pressed it because it was See-Saw & I wanted to share with my friends how awful people are at balancing those things & happened to grab a recording of the old See-Saw glitch that thankfully did get fixed, the whole see-saw would be frozen with everyone on it then they'd suddenly fall & respawn. Oddly enough, that ended up being my first time making it to a final but it was Hex-A-Gone & I was using mouse & keyboard, I wound up getting a controller that weekend because of how much of a nightmare it was to play without one.
Fall Guys should not use Fortnite's prices at all. In Fortnite, Skins are (with some exceptions) 800 - 2000 V-bucks, and they give you both a Skin and a Back Bling, which both can have edit styles, reactivity, and a built-in emote. In Fall Guys, you can get an upper and lower costume for 800 - 1500. Fall Guys costumes should cost 500 - 1000 show bucks, not the same price as Fortnite. And also yes, other games have 1500 currency in the Battle Passes.
I've played fortnite way back In 2018 and for an hour so I'm not super familiar with it or any other battle royale, fall guys was the first one I got good at. But wow fortnite skins sound cool! FG definitely should be priced like fortnite skins
I played a lot of fall guys before it was epic exclusive. I haven't touched it since. I never liked epic games and their systems but I've given them chances on many occasions, however forcing me to use an epic games account or even the launcher for a game I have on steam since launch or on switch. nah fam. Seeing now what is happening to the game hurts, this was genuinely a great game that was sadly obscured by the sudden popularity among us had. sad to see this happen
I never understood the hate epic games got to be Frank, never played any multplayer game longer then 1 to 2 hours, this being the first the one first one I got good at. Can see the issues people have with epic games now, but I still enjoy the game and the newer maps are fun, this game has great potential just a lot of issues it needs to address.
Don't get how that would work, like it be an option in the settings? I think that would fragment the playerbase even more cause they'll be non sbmm lobbies and sbmm lobbies, one might not he able to find matches forcing players to either play sbmm when they don't want to or vice versa.
I don't understand what is going on with fall guys dev. Back in SS1 it was my first time joining this game when it went f2p, it completely fine in my opinion, but when SS2 starts I see it's starting to get worse, mostly with the maps and variations, playing the same round over and over is boring as hell, we are far from not having so many round pool like legacy season 1.
Hey guys! this is a pretty heated topic so please do remember to be respectful and voice your opinions in survey's that mediatonic sometimes hold that's _one_ of best way to guarantee they'll see your concerns. #SaveFallGuys
Man U have 14k
That’s so much good job
Almost to 15K just need 3 more subs. Also thank you Osmabo!
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As a returning player, being immediately put in sweaty lobbies while I'm just trying to get back into the game is very discouraging, well said.
Yeah.. removing it altogether would cause more problems then it would solve but that's my take on it of course. Thankfully the LTM's don't have sbmm but they lack round variety which can get boring at times, but good for practicing skips and shortcuts if the map has any!
They could do it like Smash Ultimate GSP, where the longer you stop playing the more GSP you lose, so you can fight with easier opponents
What? Lol you are complaining about that? Really? Go play animal crossing lmao
Hahahaha
i dont think anybody asked you
Yeah, nobody did
I really like fall guys and I don't want to see it die... Let's hope mediatonic and epic games do something about it.
Indeed
Yes, agreed
if they dont then itll be the sad reality
It's already dead
@@Gc7501-YT partially true aswell :/
Watching this, I realized why I randomly "didnt feel like" playing the game after new season dropped. I thought I just lost interest but it's actually because of the reasons in the video. Thanks for putting them together and making a list
Same , i only sweated last season cos i was new but i got bored of fg straight after
Me too brother :(
Limited round pool killed it for pros and newbies alike. They didn't introduce variants for a over a year and when they did they made it overstay its welcome.
The irony on the new variations: they intend to fix the lack of variations problem only to cause the problem they were fixing much worse.
Thats hilarious, never looked at it that way 🤣
their irrelevant if they constantly take out all the games to the point those new ones are the only games you see
Yeah what's the point of variations if you're so desperate to show them off that you lose variation.
Would be so much more fun if most if not all maps were available all the time, and their variations could be completely random, so each time playing a map feels different, instead of playing the same 5 games every single time
Thank you for explaining this. Most of the stuff you mentioned makes a lot of sense. I really hate how the economy is played out on the game. Especially for showbucks and kudos. I also don't like how the daily/weekly challenges makes you want to earn kudos when you're put up with randoms in squads or duos. There was a moment when I was unable to unlock the hex a gon pattern skin on the hex a trials event because I have to be playing on duos & squads instead of "Hex a Gon" modes. It's so absurd.
I got mad lucky with the duo's and Squads game, basically carried them in the finale but noticed all the challenges are squad related for some reason.
It took me several days
The intention is to get you to play with other people you know, which is good enough but the amount of people that just disconnect sucks. Also, there's been a lot of crashing recently that has contributed to that. Not unplayable but there was a switch player I played with that disconnected only when the portals were on screen.
As someone who plays duos regularly (I got a friend who also plays the game, so this is the perfect way to play for us), one of my biggest problems besides the lack of maps, it's the fact that now you got team rounds in this mode. If I wanted to play with random people I'd just go to squads but no, if you're lucky you'll get no team round but now you usually get one near the end and it's really frustrating losing because the game decided to throw a team round with strangers.
Wait, duo's has team games? That's just crazy what the heck
@@Izzytorium I think they added them last season and people complained for a good reason and they still decided to keep them and yes, it sucks whenever we almost get to the final round and lose because of soccer.
@@IzzytoriumYes, There were TWO team games in the third around dnd semi final when I played for the hex a thon costume.
@@crashnebula7 The teams round you usually get in duos are: Jinxed, hoopsie daisy (these two usually around the third or second round), basketball and soccer are near the end.
Eh, it would be weird if all Team modes were exclusive to Squads and in Solos people would complain that it wouldn't be a true Solo experience anymore as a random team could drag you down.
Though I can see how it's frustrating if you lose in the semi-final round because of a random team constellation.
I think it would be more appropriate to introduce a team round on round 2-3 max to make it less punishing.
I genuinely didn’t know about the changing language strategy to restart your game, that’s super clever. But yeah I’ve been keeping up with a lot of the whole savefallguys drama recently and this video explains it so well. Great job
Found that put on a comment in a reddit thread, was buried at the bottom like all the good comments are sadly. Needed to share that for sure
Super well said, I agree with all of this, especially with the live events, showbucks and kudos. Thanks for the info
Yeah no problem! Wanted to get my thoughts out on this since S1 FFA came out, glad I could get it out lol
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I agree too!
live events in fall guys?
@@Andrew110 "Pepperidge Farms remembers."
Thanks so much for making this amazing video, Izzy. I had seen # savefallguys trending, but was a bit confused as to what the community really wanted to be changed. This video explained everything really well and now I have a better understanding about why people are angry about the state of fall guys. I especially agree with the points you made about the economy and live events, and definitely feel they need to be changed/reworked in the near future.
Made this video for people who might be wondering what the heck is going on and to air out some problems I've had with the game, finally got that out of my system haha.
Well put! I agree with all your points. I'm actually getting a little bored because of the small pool of maps that I encounter. I miss some of the maps like slime climb, track attack, etc. And the economy in game is horrible, I always don't have enough kudos to buy some of the cute skins even if I play the game and complete the challenges daily. I hope they do better.
I feel bad for new players cause us old beans have accumulated hundreds of thousands of Kudos and can buy the Kudos skins easily if we want and even have full skins and didn't have to pay a dime for them cause we could earn them by playing the game. I don't mind when they remove a map due to a bug or if it could cause seizures but removing for unknown reasons and not letting us know is just unacceptable imo. I hope they make dailies give you 2K Kudos instead of 200.
Yeah but Track Attack is still there, the ones missing from SS1 are Speed Circuit, Bounce Party and Voleyfall
I always stay away from drama *as in not partaking in it* but this came up in the beta bean discord. I noticed your video and decided to give it a try, just to get an idea of what's going on. Very informative and objective! Thank you! I love Fall Guys dearly as it got me through the pandemic (been playing since launch day) but I never realized the more recent problems after it went F2P wasn't just me and was actually the developers! What irks me the most is that bugs I report in beta testing STILL make it into the live show 🙃 And showbucks, but you covered all that well. I love Fall Guys and I hate to see what's happening. Hopefully things will turn around for our loveable beans soon!
I always see comments on the fall guys subreddit (r/fallguysgame) that says something to the like of beta testers tell MT about issues, but they don't listen, like it could've been handled there but guess we all need to experience it for some reason. I got this game when season 4 was new and am glad I did because I don't know if I would still be playing the game if I got it when it went F2P.
I agree with you on the SBMM part. It doesn't need to be removed, but definitely tweaked
It does man, it won't be easy to do and some parties will never be satisfied with the state of it, but hope they tweak it
I completely agree with you Izzytorium! The biggest part for me is their HUGE LACK OF COMMUNICATION it's HORRIBLE and yet after 2 years of the game being released, they still haven't fixed bugs from day 1 and won't even tell us WHAT THE HECK Is going on right now. It's sad I always hope they change but they always squish that when they release a DUMB tweet saying Hi heres a picture of long legs. ITS SO FRUSTRATING. What's the saddest part was is that it was trending on twitter and yet Fall Guys (Mediatonic) didn't even at least give a little acknowledgement to it. Im sorry if it came across as heated but these issues are just very frustrating.
Its okay to be frustrated, we all are!
What I see is a systematic approach to make new players happy and legacy players leave, who are less likely to spend more money on this game.
- SBMM: let the skilled players fight against ragdoll, body block, desync, bad spawn in early rounds and each other in the final; give the newbies free wins to get them hooked.
- Infestation of team games in Duos and Squads: lower the win rate of good players and make newbies happy, whose % of qualifying on their own is less than 50% or 66%
- Limiting maps and variations: new players can learn "the whole game" quicker because there are fewer maps, while invalidating old players' experience on other maps and variations. New players are not aware of the removed maps or variations anyways.
I'm not even mentioning the crown-to-kudo conversion.
You hit nail on the head, new people install and play this game every day so the game is never in short supply of them, plus casual players are more likely to purchase something as well, whereas pro players already have dozens of costumes they can wear and are less likely to buy things with IRL money.
The map vaulting is horrible. I have gotten Airtime for the first round 3 TIMES IN A ROW!
I don't play Solo Show that often anymore but had to for one of the Live Events it required to win Solo Show and really noticed how repetitive the maps have gotten, sometimes they'll appear in the same order. Never seen Air Time as a round 1 though so that's odd but it appearing in the same spot multiple times is believable.
@@Izzytorium Yea I have gotten sick of the Map situation. I took a break from Fall Guys in September of 2022 and came back. Jeez the map rotation is horrendus.
Thank you so much for making this video Izzy!! The majority of comments I was seeing on Twitter and the Twitch stream just felt really demanding and unreasonable so I'm really thankful to get this kind of explanation so I can understand what the issues really are.
Yeah, sounds like social media alright, lol. I'm grateful to be providing a more "balanced" perspective with of course my opinion sprinkled in. Thanks for watching danyeal!
The only things I've had issues with is the map variety, it can get boring...but more annoyingly, half the time it feels like my teammates in Squads disconnect or play terribly. It feels like a waste of time trying to beat squad missions
Yeah, map variety is an issue that affects everybody regardless of skill level, Fall Guys works differently than most BR games where it relies on its maps to keep you playing whereas in other BR's like Fortnite, Apex Legends etc each game can be played very differently you don't get that benefit in fall guys since _most_ maps are pretty linear and you play them the same each time, if you keep showing the same maps over and over you'll probably be taking the same path over and over again which makes the game feel like a chore. Also, games of fall guys are the same no matter if you're playing Squads, Duo's or the LTM's it's just regular fall guys so that doesn't help either.
What makes me mad is that I got the game during legacy and now everything costs money
Now it just feels like there is no point of playing the game
Game went F2P, they gotta make money somehow, plus so many people have a chance to play this wonderful yet buggy game. And as someone who got this game during legacy season 4, I feel your rage.
anyone remember when the end of OG season 6 was supposed to send out "the most important message in the history of fall guys"? it's a shame they cancelled it.
Really? I don't really remember that sadly
I agree with your analysis. More importantly, I'm so glad you played that version of Hyperdrive Heroes while talking. It goes to one of the points you made. I started playing at the end of July 2022. I've played Whirlygig so much it is getting beyond boring. I've played that version of Hyperdrive Heroes about 5 times. So, every time it comes up, even though I've gotten good results during the show, I know I won't get to the final because I haven't played it enough to learn it and get through. I'm good, but not good enough to out maneuver players who've played it many times before. Thanks for the video.
That's hoverboard heroes, hyperdrive is the new one with the ion thrusters at the start. But yeah I've played so much hex a Gone that it's getting stale
I got fall guys in 2019 and halfway through that year they changed they physics of the game for the worst and never changed them back lol. Very weird
2019? Game came put in August 2020
Thanks for summarizing this video of everything going on it helped me a lot so I can understand more of what’s going on
My pleasure, more people that know the better
I personaly think that mediatonic did a better job with this game, i miss old fall guys😢
A lot of people do, but more people are playing the game which makes me happy, they just need to tweak SBMM and get Better at communicating. Map maker will change the game and hopefully for the better
@@Izzytorium you are realy dedicated to fall guys and making grate content! Keep up the fantastic work! Have a nice day
For me the biggest disappointment is just lack of control for how I play, especially with friends; there's not a practice mode, there's not a way for me to play a show with a just a small group of friends, there's not a way for me to play the shows I want to play, there's not an alternative queue for special modes like cops and robbers when they're not in the main rotation, etc.
Sweet Thieves? Never heard someone refer it to as that, makes sense though, practice mode would be nice, map maker will be added to the game eventually so maybe people will make practice maps there, fall guys probably won't add a practice mode cause it goes against the games casual nature
Even setting aside practice, I just really wish there was a free play mode
Congrats on 15K well deserved!!
Thank you Declan!
i don't know if people wanna know why compagnies do this at 9.15 but i'll lay it out for you.
This is purely a marketing price tactic to trick the subconscious of your brain to make you feel like the whole 800 showbucks instead of the 700 is a very good deal because, who would be stupid enough to buy only a part for 700 am I right. That way they divert the attention that you'll still be spending 800 showbucks or 10 bucks on your costume. Epic is not expecting you to buy only part of the costume. Apple does this too when they reveal a new product. When a new product comes on the market let's say the iphone 14, they'll bring out another model, (iphone 13+) and sell the 13+ at a higher price to just divert your attention and make the Iphone14 seem like a good deal. That being said I don't see these tactics changing anytime soon, Epic has mastered those price tactics with fortnite and those prices will always be unfair :p - coming from a guy whos in his 3th year marketing and that was one of the things i had to study on how to scam people lol
this is a great video, keep it up!
Very fascinating perspective, makes sense too.
The showbucks update made all my friends quit
Don't blame them, I have 100's of skins I earned so I'm not too bummed about it but for new players it sucks having to buy with with irl bucks.
everyone in my lobby is SWEATY bro..
These days I play the LTM's and only play solo show If I have to complete a challenge.
I completely agree with everything you've listed in this video and I'm surprised you actually covered as much as you did in such a concise and understandable way. I've started playing the game in SS1 and have about 600 hours with 1650 crowns already so it's safe to say I'm invested in this game and I know what I'm doing, but some of the things you listed in this video I didn't even know about yet, like the changing language trick to update your crown shards.
I agree with you about SBMM, all I ever see are skilled players complaining that they lose more games because they are in the harder lobbies which is exactly what is supposed to happen, although I understand that there are inadequacies with the system itself and its difficult to address without fracturing the player counts between so many gamemodes.
Something else I wanted to mention is the fact that I struggle so much at certain times of the day to get into lobbies where I don't have red bars even if I know most of the players are from my region (Australia). I'm not exactly sure whether this is due to server quality, lack of servers, lack of players or problems with server selecting through the game but I wish there was something that could be done about this.
In summary, great video and I'm glad a Fall Guys content creator has finally made a video addressing this, because no offence to other creators but I feel like they ignore these issues as much as Mediatonic/Epic Games for the sake of their 'brand' and content.
Fun fact, if the game can't find a lobby in your region, it'll put you in another region, even if you have it set to a specific region which could explain the red bars. It also does if it can't find a lobby with people near your rank too
@@Izzytorium I would happily wait an extra couple of minutes for a server with good connection (white bars or above) to be available because it can be frustrating playing specific modes or maps where connection plays a huge part of whether you have a good chance of winning or not (Fall Ball, Volleyfall, Basketball etc) and you end up just wasting 10-15 minutes of your time anyway in these lobbies. Lately I've just resorted to leaving any lobbies I get into with red bars but it can be seriously frustrating doing this constantly over a play session of 1-8 hours.
A recent glitch I kept encountering during squads is for the pixel picture game..if you get it in the first round, it's almost certain that it's glitched since 2-3 teams will share the same platform instead of just having 1 team..
And speaking of squads, I've also encountered being included in squads with only 2 members. I've even experienced bwing alone in a squad for the first round. But given a lot of glitches so far that are not being fixed, I'm not keeping my hopes up.
I saw the Pixel Painters one on reddit funny enough, that's just hilarious, sad but hilarious
I’m personally split on sbmm, I like the idea of putting players of different skill levels in different matches, but I don’t like how maps get locked in the lower levels
Kinda good news is that mediatonic tweaked it to where you can climb the tiers a bit faster then before which means you won't be stuck in low tiers for too long but we don't know much else, though that means you have a higher chance of being put in lobbies with pros, but its a balancing act really and I hope they continually tweak SBMM
I was wondering why I haven't seen Space Race in a while or never got to play Bubble Trouble at all. The other games modes however seem to have been re added.
Skill based match-making needs to be a priority with squads and duos. I often find myself loosing in the first or second round of squad shows cos the rest of the players in my team don't know how to get to the finish line. Also leaving the game after your squad is dead before the round is over is a much needed update. Recently they added previews for victory animations however with is a godsend!
I had no idea how much they nerfed the kudos earnings.
The live events lasting super long or locked quests is annoying as well. It's not so bad tho if your suffering from Fall Guys burnout 😓
So happy they added previews for celebrations and it shows the skin you're wearing too which is great. Map variety was at an all time low when I made this video, map count is at 40 as of SS3 which is an improvement. Looking back at SS2 the beginning was fun cause all the maps were in the game including the new ones but after the miku event it went downhill.
This video explains the issues very very well. Well done!
Thank you Keotho!
My only problem with the Kudos is the exchange rate. Old players who accumulated crowns had their crowns traded in for KUDOS even though those same groups of players (I myself) had thousands upon thousands of kudos! This would be great except they completely revamped the store and allowed EVEN LESS kudos items than they had before. Not to mention that this friggin Kudos Shop resets EVERY WEEK. So I’m sitting here with like 450K Kudos, staring at the same “SuNhAt” item while slowly dying inside. My major problem is that the crown to kudos exchange should have been crowns to show-bucks. Of course, this wouldn’t give Epic as much money from show-bucks purchases. Yet the whole point of F2P wasn’t to focus on gaining money from those old players, but instead bring in new ones. I think that converting crowns to show-bucks would be a way better choice as then old players might still enjoy the game.
I wish they made it so OG players could earn show bucks via daily challenges something akin to how OG save the world fortnite players were able to earn V bucks from the Daily challenges, think it was 100 V bucks if I recall correctly. I'm glad I spent most of my Kudos and crowns on stuff before the change happened, still have some stuff I couldn't buy but I bought most of the store thankfully.
@@Izzytorium Yeah that sounds like a pretty good idea
Another great video izzy!
Keep up the good work!👍
Thank you!
tbh, I’m getting bored at FG.
The bugs, sweats etc.
Don't blame you, season 6 was the worst time for this game and I felt that way. Haven't grinded the game since s6
i play squads to get some levels on the pass and i agree squads and duos are so broken cause someone leaves and bad players
Leavers are the worst and the fact it gives team games in duo's is just terrible
@@Izzytorium fr
Honestly, I entirely agree
The way you explained all this was well done.
Though, the thing I agree the most is the small things like the squads rewards, little bugs, item shop previews etc.
But the ones I want fix or dealt with NOW? Definetly skill based matchmaking (because I like the idea, not the execution) and the maps issue. I don't care if this variations stay, I just want to play everything, in multiple variations
I want more maps dang it
I like the Season 2 variants I really do but would love to see it mixed in with the other variants too. SBMM needs to be tweaked especially in the higher brackets to make it so it's not a complete sweat fest but that's easier said then done.
Congrats on 15k!
Thank you so much
I regret not playing before free for all
I don't think I would be playing Fall Guys if I didn't get it back in legacy season 4, was a different time.
Great video and I couldn't agree more. Played squad yesterday and every time it was 7 rounds when there was 40ppl playing. I was like "hm.. this didn't happen before",pretty frustrating.
I thankfully haven't played a 7 rounder in recent memory but it seems to be a regular thing for most people which sucks
Its a good thing I didn't get too invested in Fall Guys. Bought it on Steam, played it for an hour, didn't touch it after. A few months later, Fall Guys is removed from Steam, No Refunds. Thanks Epic! Wasted my Time and Money!
Even with all the issues, I still love this game, sad to hear people leave or get bored of the game that brought me so much of joy, but it's understandable game is in the worst state its been since it released.
This video just came out a minute ago and I am commenting you can tell I haven’t watched yet lol (but I will soon)
Lmao, hope you enjoy it when you do get around to watching it!
I completely agree with all of these points. I’m a new comer to Fall Guys when it became free back in June. I’ve loved it for a while because it takes no skill at all. But over time I have gotten bored over it. I do also think it’s frustrating with matchmaking and the store. I can literally carry my team in Duos or Squad, but because they are new and trash I get eliminated. Personally the only issue I had when I first played was the store. Show bucks is a neat currency, but sometimes the prices go a bit overboard. Like I really wanted to get the Sonic costumes when they came out, but I didn’t have the show bucks and I missed my chance. Fall Guys is still a fun game imo and I would hate for it to die again, but maybe if Mediatonic and Epic fix the bugs and bring more new map content, this game can strive again.
PS this is probably the longest comment I’ve ever written
I remember back when I got the game in legacy season 4, the wait for the seasons and updates were getting longer and longer, season 6 lasted _half a year_ I'm just grateful that new players don't have to experience that long of a wait, definitely a back in my day moment lol. However they just ripped V bucks and didn't tweak it at all, prices just don't make sense, they didn't sense during season 1 FFA.
@@Izzytorium I wish I could’ve played back in 2020, but it was rough year for me because I was forced to online school and that put more pressure and stress on me.
i can agree, the limited round pool just kinda sickens me after like i get the same “big fans” round 8-9 times just in 30 minutes and me getting tired and bored
if their goal is to keep players playing by shrinking the round pool, its not working
I love big fans even after getting it so many times, but getting sick of getting Hex a Gone.
@@Izzytorium oh god fr i forgot about hex a gone that shows up too much lmao
I'm just glad to see an argument about SBMM that is more fair and not just "Remove SBMM entirely"
I find it fair for new players, but like what you said it needs improvement since new players would just find golden knights or golden witches in their low tier lobbies.
It's just doesn't feel balanced and more like an afterthought in my opinion. Hope they'll improve upon it in the coming seasons
13:46 rlly , i thought they will be added at end of season pass , i never noticed , i grinded crowns and fame in this repetitive rewards event , i loved it , now i can work and wait for special event or next season , my main reason was fame
and also 3 days more then 200 crowns or 250 or 270 idk lost count
I find grinding to be so boring idk why, but have been doing it cause of the repeatable challenges, and managed to climb half a rank which is decent i guess.
@@Izzytorium same finished pass already , and i was so behind , did only dailies and weekly then , now i am done
Little did we know this wasn't the worst state yet
Yeah
10:50 It's funny that this image shows the 'Checked Out' pattern, because that's exactly what I did after all this. Got the game about a month after launch, previous experience with platformers meant I was decently skilled, and played at least once a week before the move to F2P; but at this point the last time I played was for the Sonic event and I honestly don't see myself coming back. I'm even on the community beta testing server and couldn't be bothered to check out SS2 early.
The most puzzling thing about SBMM is that it's not in any of the Squads modes (duos, trios or quads), when surely that's where it's needed most. All too often your team will end up with at least one of those players who'd get timed out on Big Fans, and no matter how well you do there's just no making up for it.
The other thing I recently came to realise is that with random matchmaking, the more skilled you became, the better your chance of winning. This seems to fit with the battle royale style of game that Fall Guys is. On the other hand, games that implement SBMM trade out that dynamic - matches are fairer, but as a player improves they find themselves winning just as much, since they're up against better opponents. This is fine, but it usually comes with more reward for winning at a higher skill tier. This part of the equation is missing from Fall Guys, and it only serves to sour the playerbase's opinion of the new system.
I suppose it's to be expected though, after they ditched continuous rewards. One of the straws that broke the camel's back for me was that, after finishing the season pass and doing all the available challenges, that's basically all you get. You could be the last person eliminated, 2nd place in the whole lobby, and yet the space below the 'Show Rewards' text on the end screen would be completely empty. And it would still show the text too, just to rub it in. Maybe having you continue to earn Fame that gets you Crown Shards helps, but it's not going to pull me back.
Fall guys was the first multiplayer game I got good at or cared enough to play for more then an hour, so I'm not sure how SBMM works in other games, interesting to hear that you get more rewards for winning at a higher skill tier. Kudos should've still been earnable, but with the Kudos store the way it is idk if it would've been worth it, Kudos costumes are some garbanzo beans. Part of me thinks MT didn't add SBMM to the other modes was just it would've broken the points system they use so they just didn't bother. I wish I remembered to mention how you don't get anything if you lose upon completing the pass, had way too much to cover in so little time, if I ever make this type of video again I'll mention it.
tbh show bucks are way cheaper as compared to weaker currencies , fall guys dont rlly care about other continents or countries
1 USD = 82 INR
and no 82 INR is worth way more then 1 USD in US , our currency lowered but the Purchasing power parity is same
this is biggest bane for us
i mean sometimes its so boring or you feel awkward when you are the only one with no other emotes or celebration rather then default .
The 1000 show bucks cost 666 INR which is a lot to spend everytime on a ingame cosmetic , you can at least get good and very tasty 6-9 small pizzas in india with that money
everytime i play fall guys i wish i bought it earlier and played and stacked more outfits
at least make price according to ppp of a country like 666 INR = almost 30 USD
and its 8 dollars for you guys
so yea i am pissed
FFA player cannot is do full achievements without spending , espcially weaker currencies cost a lot
so i only bought a season pass still costed me 3x the price of original game price when on discount
and yes all the game bugs and stuff you alr said
Dang I didn't realise that actually, wow. Pizza > in game items that's for sure.
@@Izzytoriumikr ;) but i still ended up spending 3 times , i need cosmetics my bean feel discriminated
i got 5k show bucks saved , waiting for cheap new costume bundles , and no i wont spend more ;c
What also sucks about squads and duos is that when like there are 56/60 players, instead of having one less squad, they like to have people with less people. It's so annoying when i play and end up losing because I had less teammates.
I know exactly what you mean by that, always thought people leave when the game starts for some reason
when fall guys got added to xbox i played it for about a week and had no idea that they put skill based matchmaking into the game, i got bored from the game cause every lobby just felt like a bot lobby and there was nothing fun about it. also i kept getting the same 2 maps over and over and over again.
If you're new they put you in the lowest bracket and limit the roundpool so you can learn the game without getting the harder maps, so you play the same maps over and over, climbing the brackets when S1:FFA came out was tough, now they made it easier to climb the brackets thankfully so you can experience the other maps, I understand why they did it, some maps are just plain tough for first timers but at the same time playing the same maps is boring. Duo's and Squads and the LTM's don't have SBMM so people could play those if they want.
Watching this and realizing how much better the item shop was during season 1-6 just makes me depressed on what I missed out on. If only we could revisit the legacy days 😔
Really was, grateful that I have most of the old cosmetics in the game, and also bummed I didn't buy some cause I wasn't interested, if I had known they would cost money sooner I would've grinded for them, oh well
That fricking live event with squad/duos random💀💀💀💀
What? The Hex A Thon live event? I got lucky with my randoms and won in 3 games, do feel you though cause normally I get dog crap luck with randoms
Hexathon, Idol Games, Possibly Glizzy Gang Showdown:
Speed circut for example was added in the last season. Yet I've only played it once this whole season. And I've played hours of gameplay this season. Its insane how they just remove levels without any reason
Speed Circuit was removed cause of flashing gates and that could cause Seizures but they brought it back and removed it again for no reason, I got it while playing on stadium star show so they just removed it in the regular modes smh
This is so true, last week after a ton of nonsense of playing without getting anything from missions and the live event, I got really tired and said to my little brother that I won't play Fall Guys ever again, it was a huge waste of time, the kudos thing, the rewards, the maps, matching, errors, missions, man, why would I play it if I'm not having fun?
Hope they do something about it, but right now I'm out of the game.
It's never one thing that stops people from playing its smaller issues compounding one after another over long periods of time that turns people off from Fall Guys.
@@Izzytorium exactly, it builds up until the explotion, it would be a miracle if they can "fix" some issues and improve the experience for the players
9:50 Dead by Daylight does this in their season pass which is called the rift. It gives back the currency that you paid for the pass with.
Didn't know Dead by Daylight even had a battle pass, interesting
I agree with most of everything you said in the video. One thing they need to start doing is rotate game maps in solo. I will get the same maps and get tired of playing on the same maps. It also sucks crown system is gone, it kill motivation to win games now since you get shards and that also is useless.
If you complete the season pass and lose you get nothing which is just an over sight, they increased it to 200 so most players should be earning something until the end of the season but for people who finish the pass, they have to win to earn something. Once this season is over I hope they bring back all the maps and its respective variants and try not to pull a stunt like this, as I said in the video you can show off your new map variants for a week but after that you gotta bring the other maps and its variants.
I think the kudos problem is also apparent for legacy players,i have 100k kudos that i don't know what to do with because i don't really like the tiny customizations that you can buy. I think they should add some of the older skins back on with kudos. they also need to balance things out by letting new players buy some cheap costumes and let the legacy players buy some of the more expensive costumes.
Very true, honestly colour and patterns shouldn't cost show bucks in my opinion. Anything that has an uncommon rarity should also cost Kudos as well.
@@Izzytorium also in fortnite you can get 1800 vbucks from the battle pass.
You can also get 300 free vbucks as opposed to 200 free showbucks
I wouldn't mind a small bump in the amount of show bucks you earn, 1800 sounds better then 1500.
@@Izzytorium even full uncommons? Thats better
i got 40k with the change and i spent on stuff every now and then, now i have 200, the game never gives you enough for anything the system is complete garbage
You convince me,now I don't hate SBMM and I also think that a ranked mod wouldn't be a good idea😅,but SBMM should definitely be reworked,and this is how I would rework it :
Instead of 3 bracket,why not only 2 ? One for the new players and noobs,and another one for everyone else !
The bracket 1 will have 20 bots(they will stay until round 3 and they'll leave shortly after)and all the maps will be unlocked,except the hard ones(Slimescrapper,Hyperdrive Heroes etc)
The bracket 2 will have 0 bots,and all the maps will be unlocked
Feel like that would make it to where newbie players could get into pro lobbies too quickly, and get destroyed. Though I do like the idea of unlocking more maps which could increase variety!
@@Izzytorium You're right,if noobs get on pro lobbies too quickly,it could be even worse than the actual SBMM. So I think that the bracket 1 could be only for players with under 100 crowns
Also on Switch now you can't record. In the first season, you can record the last 30 seconds. Now you can only take snapshots.
Wow that sucks :/
I really, REALLY hate the microtransactions. Something I loved about the game was that you'd get currency and skins by playing the game, and you couldn't even buy the most valuable currency! I remember back in the day when seeing a bullet skin was a huge event, because nobody could really afford it at the time. Now you can just spend 12 dollars to get it. In april I made a review for the game saying: "I love this game but I hate epic games for buying it." I was gonna change that when ss1 dropped, but I'm not changing it anytime soon.
I'm thankful that I played this game back when you could earn stuff and have a backlog of costumes to wear, if I had started playing fall guys when it went free to play, I wouldn't be playing it still.
@@Izzytorium Same man, I worked and won games for my skins, I didn't steal my mom's credit card for the messenger skin. Lowkey my favorite skin in the game actually and ive never played the original game.
I legit only wear the worker upper and night owl faceplate but will change everything else. The old business model just wasn't reliable in today's market, it makes games more accessible but at the cost of overcharging the most basic of cosmetics and farming every last second of your time.
Also hyperdrive heroes basically "got" a new variation where theres more hexagons and 2 spinning beams instead of less hexagons and bumpers.
Yup I saw!
Fortnite also does the season pass thing (giving you enough of the games currency for the next one) and Fortnite does do discounted skins if you own a part of the bundle (kind of weird, because Epic Games owns both of these and won't put discounted bundles in Fall Guys)
Makes sense since epic owns both Fall Guys & Fortnite, they do discounted bundles in fall guys there are some skins I owned before the game went F2P and they became part of bundles and was able to get it cheaper then people who didn't own the skin.
Having too many sweats in a Fall Guys lobby is a problem that’s never crossed my mind lol
Trust me, its an issue in the higher brackets also some LTM's that offer 2 crowns or has 3 rounds and the reward is 1 crown will have the sweats coming in droves, if anything I find the LTM's or limited time modes to be more sweaty then solo show, but if an LTM thats boring or offers little rewards like 20 shards or so are live then they go back to solo's.
ONE THING NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IS BODY BLOCKING. It’s driving me insane
As I said in the video, not gonna mention every little thing. I find it most annoying in Track Attack.
@@Izzytorium YES AND ESPECIALLY DOOR DASH aswell
@@Izzytorium At the end of skyline stumble where the pin balls things are
@@Izzytorium wall guys as well and dizzy hights at the very beginning
@@MoonFN08 Lily leapers:
I recently got a Xbox Series S and started playing many games I've missed out on, Fall Guys being one of them.
While I had fun, some stuff frustrated me. Many of them were addressed in this video. I'm subscribing.
Can't imagine being a noob in today's Fall Guys, I'm glad you had fun though! also thanks for subscribing Mateus!
I used to play fall guys so much I have 300 wins since show bucks got added there was no reason to play beyond the pass which I completed in about a month and haven't played since as there was a lack of new content and a motive to keep playing that content
*No lies detected*
the thing is about the show bucks is that when you guy the season pass for 950 show bucks you get like 1 300 show bucks from the seasion pass sp if you buy one you can by infinite season passes and after a couple seasons you can by skins
1500 actually but buying the season pass is a good value but that's about it
Ye
Duos: 3 team games in one match.
There's no way haha, actually laughed irl reading this
duos is painful to play, usually lasts like 9 rounds i never touch it
Thanks a lot for making this video Izzy I feel like a lot of this imformation is really important, expecially seeing how mediationic has been silent about the whole situation and seems like there not even tweeting about any reasoning or explanation. SBMM is so broken, as I have been able to gwet into lobbies with people wearing golden costumes, for god sake I haven't even unlocked the full beanbot outfit. I actually like SBMM becuase I am not at a really high crown rank but at least mediatonic needs to fix SBMM and make it correct and not completly broke it as I am able to get into lobbies that have so many more crowns then me.
Yeah of course! Made this video for the average player who might not know about the issues this game has, I don't use social media myself but have been going through tweets and reddit posts trying to see what the heck is going on and decided to relay that information to you guys
2 years?! Wow, I forgot it came out so long ago
Yeah man, I bought the game on March 26th, 2021 been more then a year since I got into Fall Guys, felt like yesterday I got the game for the first time!
Even tho skill based match making is not on different modes I am a golden knight and I get 5 to 8 golden chicken’s and I am so annoyed because of the lag and lose against these people
I see
Yeah they really need to find a way to fix the point system in squads and duos. Missing just 1 teammate is already a 25% disadvantage in terms of points which is massive, especially in survival rounds like Perfect Match, Big Shots,… It’s also kind of frustrating to have to watch the whole round for like 2 minutes before able to “escape” and join another queue. Those 2 minutes stacking up will basically turn into 15-20 minutes very quickly.
Yeah in later rounds a 3 man squad won't be able to qualify because they don't have enough people gathering points, I wish the game would punish people who leave but that probably won't happen cause its a casual game
03:00 I'm still a beginner, but I've played splatoon for a long time. Let me tell you: having separate ranked and casual modes is a blessing.
Fall Guys is a huge game, I don't think it'll have trouble filling lobbies.
The great thing about separate ranked and casual modes is that people can play more in tune of what they feel like playing. Do you want to be competitive? Play ranked. Do you just want to have fun? Play casual.
This will also up player retention, because people will be able to play what they want more.
Not sure if splatoon has a leaderboard and stuff like that, but fall guys should have that infrastructure before adding a ranked mode and in a way, solo show is a pseudo ranked. But there are positives to departing ranked and casual for sure, dozens of games do it, though I don't play or have played other Battle Royales longer then 2 hours so I'm not sure how ranked is implemented there.
@@Izzytorium Splatoon has a ranking system from C- to X rank. I think you're right, Fall Guys would need to have some infrastructure for ranks before implementing it. (It took Nintendo 3 splatoon games to get it right XD)
To me the biggest flaws with Fall Guys are SBMM, performance on the Switch and the latest removal of Coyote Time.
For me Fall Guys is THE definition of a casual experience. It's not about being the best out of 60 players but about being part of the experience and qualifying the longest. But I understand that people want to win occasionally which is borderline impossible when you got a sweatlord in your lobby. So on paper SBMM sounds like a good thing.
But eventually you're gonna get the hang of the controls which is when you get into the sweaty bracket: People start to play Meta and utilize every option to maximize their chances to win and if you don't play along you'll continue to lose. Now it's not about casual fun anymore, but about skill and grinding. And that's not what I associate Fall Guys with, which is why I currently stick to Duos and Trios only where the casual experience is still kinda maintained.
In addition the performance on the Switch wasn't great already in Season 1, got even worse with season 2 and at the moment my game keeps crashing in the middle of matches about 3 times in 2 hours (mainly on maps like cosmic spewdway).
Add the low FPS and lag with the removal/nerf of coyote time (the slim window where you can still jump after leaving a ledge) and it's a frustrating experience overall.
I believe they said there looking into the issue with jumps along with the see saw issues on Full Tilt & See Saw, so hopefully Coyete Time will be added back in, they removed it to fix the frame 1 bug where if you landed and jumped off a tile on the first frame it wouldn't crumble, people would abuse this and just keep on jumping on a tile forever and it never cracked/crumbled. Fall guys is still a battle royale at the end of the day and the goal is to win, maybe I'm too much of a sweat and haven't played this game casually in a long time but its always been cutthroat and I enjoy that aspect of it, however there are people who play it once or twice a week with there mates for about 2 hours, and I'm glad SBMM is in the game so those folks can enjoy themselves so I understand that part, just can't relate to it myself.
They made it easier to climb to the higher brackets recently as well cause maps are locked behind the tiers so newbie players feel like they get put in sweat lobbies super fast. However when S1 FFA came out people kept asking why they kept getting the same 6 maps, cause they were in the low tier and couldn't get out of it, its a hard battle tweaking SBMM to where everyone is kinda satisfied with it.
@@Izzytorium I guess there are a lot of people who see this as a competitive game. Though I'd argue that as a F2P title the playerbase will always be big enough so that a special Ranked mode could be introduced and it would still be reasonably populated (especially if it raised the rewards for participating in it). At the end of the day my biggest issue is the difficulty gap between Solos and Duos/Squads. In Duos/Squads I can win occasionally and qualify 1st on race maps from time to time. On Solos one mistake is enough to not even qualify on Round 1. That makes it hard to justify playing Solos without intending to sweat.
(As I wrote this comment my game crashed for the 3rd time today. Man the game is horrible on Switch!)
Switch crashes are just unacceptable, most casual players are probably playing on switch. Definitely agree on the skill gap between solo's and the squad modes, I always see more newbies go on the squad modes funny enough when solo's was made for them. I definitely want to make another video discussing if a ranked mode would work in this game, seems like an interesting topic.
Him: **talking**
Me: bro can even parkour in Fall Guys
I can assure you I cannot parkour in real life, I'd be overpowered if I could 😂
@@Izzytorium lol
I'm a new player and have been doing fairly okay in solo, but when me and my friends formed a squad, suddenly we weren't winning anymore and that sucked!
Now I understand it's because solo has sbm while the rest doesn't and woah, that is awful!
Yeah newbies flock to squads for some reason, guess they think they can get carried when everyone has to perform especially in the later rounds.
@@Izzytorium it's more that the pro's were too fast for us. We couldn't keep up.
When I first got fall guys in legacy season 3, I fell in love with the game. It was so fun. Now after the free to play. I don’t even want to look at the game in my Home Screen. I’ll get on occasionally. But I never have fun any more. I hate the rounds I get, I always get stompin ground, just in general every round I get, are the ones I hate. I wish I could just play causally like I did back before it was free to play, because I have like 500 wins. So I get really sweaty lobbies. And that also doesn’t make me have fun when I get on every now and then. I even tested this. I usually where my golden skins etc. I always get grabbed, always. I’m always getting griefed. Next round I went full default, I didn’t get grabbed once. And I won. Why can’t I just use the skin I want 😭 I shouldn’t have to strategize what skin I wear. Just, in general. They completely messed up the game and ruined it entirely. Glad I was playing when it was good. Because it was really a good time.
I wear my skin and don't get grabbed and the times I do is when people know who I am, very lucky it doesn't happen often, what I see golden players do is that they'll wear the high ranking nameplates like rossette or number one, as a way to flex rather then their golden skins. I will say I love stompin grounds but I do see where you're coming from, there are some rounds I'm not fond of thankfully there in Squads and I never play that mode but when I do have to play it for an event for example, I dread it. I still love playing this game, clearly the newer maps are fun and variants are fun as well but they just overstayed there welcome, I hope MT learned there lesson from this season, I do think this game can have its moment (legacy season 4 player here) but all in all it is still a good game with a lot of potential, map maker will change the game for sure
As a nintendo switch player who has had a nintendo switch for almost 5 years, 30 fps isn't bad once you're used to it. Cosmic highway is pretty playable if you're used to 30 fps. But if you just got a new switch i can really imagine how hard it would be playing on 30 fps. Cause i had to get used to it aswell and it was stupidly hard
Correct me if I'm wrong but there are games that are 60FPS on the switch, right? I did hear because of the 8.2.0. update that the game crashes while on the switch, they brought back the recording feature but got rid of it again due to it causing crashes. This video was made before that update but been hearing people on reddit say their game has been outright crashing which sucks, have you experienced this by any chance?
I'm pretty sure most 60 fps games in switch are nintendo/ exclusive switch titles, however i'm not exactly sure of this. And i've had my switch crash on me twice during the entire time i had it. And recording had been gone for almost 3 years, so i'm not surprised it crashed people's games since the recording is heavily outdated. But yeah. Your video was splendid btw! I forgot to mention that in my original comment and i do apologise for that
I'm assuming those crashes were you playing games other than fall guys? fall guys did enable recording on the switch port but took that away due to the game's performance tanking essentially. I normally make map guides so making this type of video was out of my comfort zone, definitely will be doing more of these in the future, glad to hear you enjoyed it!
At least they brought back some maps today, but sadly removed some, but they said it was due to bugs so it’s good that they’re telling us why :)
That's awesome! Progress is something
9:59 Other games do this such as Fortnite, Brawl Stars, and Knockout City gives you enough currency for the next Battle Pass and a bit extra on top of that
Fortnite and Fall Guys you the same amount of currency according to a comment someone made which Is 1500. Not sure how much those games gives and how much there pass costs
@@Izzytorium The rest are essentially the same, $10
As a new player who watched fall guys before f2p and only was able to get once it went to other platforms, my problem is the lack of progression. This game is fun and all but I don't feel like I'm ever acomplishing something because almost all the progression is locked behind paywalls. When the game was first announced for other consoles for money, I was willing to pay to play it because I liked what they were doing with crossovers and events by having everything collectable with some time. Now there is practically nothing unless you buy the pass and I'm sure this plays a part in the player retention you are talking about in this video. Once you play around 5 hours you pretty much experience all there is to experience because there isn't anything else to it. The only free progression and customization there is just feels unmotivationing to obtain too (free pass having a reward every 5 or so tiers, crown progression taking a long time outside of crown shard quests). Not to mention how long it takes for decently sized updates despite now being partnered with epic... I just don't see fall guys returning to my recently played 5 until there is some massive change to the game.
I hope they add map maker to the game soon, and update it regularly could see people playing the game just for map maker. Hate how little fame you get from playing the game, makes it feel way to grindy to climb the season pass and the only real way to progress through the pass is to complete the weekly and daily challenges.
saw all these issues the day i came back to it due to it being free now, other people really have a longer resistance to these crappy practices but im glad theyre finally demanding changes
Yeah, the limited round pool was what broke the rhinos back ( I know it's camel but said rhino cause fall guys has rhinos).
I wish they bring back the record button on the Nintendo Switch that's the only way I could make videos about it, but they removed it now I can't make videos of it now
They did bring it back, but it was causing the game to lag so they got rid of it
What I don't like is pricing of skins
800 for 1 skin reduced it to 400
Bundle 1200 to 800
Victory from 700 to 200
Those premium patterns to 200 to 50 ( come on its just a texture )
Patterns and simple cosmetics that look like from Weekly challenge should not cost show bucks at all. Personally I feel older skins should cost less and the new ones should Lil higher. Also they need to add some cool skins for completing challenges most times I don't bother cause I don't need another back pack, hat, belt, ugly footwear is just lame imo
Glitch that bugs me is lobby dropping some or all players after a match forcing you to reinvite, the part about not being to claim rewards after team is out is also my big gripe too I leave anyway im not sitting there for 4 minutes. Invisible rotating thrusters killed me alot I avoid em at all costs.
FALLGUYS is very stingy on giving showbucks u get so many each bp and there's no challenges to earn more it's like at least give some per weekly challenges to give f2p players something to work for. If possible watch some dumb ads to earn some showbucks
I bought mai Terry bundle, Pedro, hot dog are my fav skins I don't feel like I need anymore I used my left over showbucks I grind to lvl 100 on bp to get miku saving it for next bp
I'd consider buying a bundle If it was 800 and a celebration if it was 200 maybe even 400 but only if you can preview them which at the moment you can't which is just stupid imo.
@@Izzytorium yeah weird theres no preview theres a channel called fall guy skins is able to show the animation for the victory
i dont like how they just copy pasted the fortnite model without actually taking time to properly price stuff, even 800 for a skin is overpriced in fallguys, their skins are just not as detailed or good enough to be worth as much as a fortnite skin
and the prices are all over the place, collabs cost 800 and then some super basic skins like the red panda and koala are 1200, neither feel worth it
I would really love to they add a "Mini-Pass" that unlocks among 20%-30% of the battle pass at the cost of 200 or 300 showbucks, so the most dedicated players can unlock a major part of the pass.
(by the way it would be better if it let you unlock 200 showbucks + so dont have to play a lot of seasons to get the full pass
"Unlock 200 showbucks" sorry I didn't understand that last part could you clarify please?
@@Izzytorium I explain, for example, if you buy the mini-pass, some of the levels that give showbucks will be unlocked. And if you reach those levels you will get the showbucks, so if you buy the mini-pass you will get extra showbucks, that you can save for the next pass, making it a lot easier to save showbucks for the f2p players.
Ahh okay I got it now!
fall guys needs a map creator or some type of mode maker and a game mode where people play community made maps and game modes endless amount of content and epic can even host competition to encourage more people to do it
They confirmed that a map maker is coming to fall guys! They did it back when they announced season 1 free for all actually, it was in early stages of development
I think another to fix skill based match making is to make a casual and comp mode where casual can have any player of any rank with the game allowing players to play the game even after getting eliminated and Competitive be normal Fall guys with skill based match making based off your win/loss ratio and your trophy amount
Allowing people to play after getting eliminated is something I don't see them doing cause it goes against the core values of the game, be the one to make it to the finish line of survive until the time runs out, plus if they try to add something like that I could see them breaking something. But making a ranked and casual mode is something I could see the game doing but at the same time I can't see them doing it either, they made solo show into a pseudo ranked mode.
I’m sick of anti sbmm people who are literally complaining because they can’t bully new players and instead have to play with people on their level
Game will always more newbies then pros, every game will have that. Casual players need to have a good time otherwise they'll just leave
One thing that upset me was mean they make you pay for skins and coins in fall guys
Yeah it made a lot of people upset, but the game is free to play now, so they have to make money somehow. Prices shouldn't be so high though.
Cosmic Highway on the Switch is playable, but definitely agree the framerate is atrocious xd
From the comments I've been hearing people are saying it's unplayable, good to hear otherwise!
I started playing very end of July 2020, I got a beta key for the last test they did but I admit I dropped off during season 2 because I was moving & not in a position where I could play Fall Guys, I was living in my aunt's sewing room for like half a year, long story. Anyways, back then, I bought halves to costumes, expecting to be able to get the other halves whenever they popped up in the shop again & then I return to show bucks, ugh. I have got discounts when bundles with pieces I already own pop up but it's like, there's parts of costumes I still don't have yet because I haven't seen it come up yet or I didn't want to pay so much for half a costume. FG skins do need to come down in price for sure, I felt awful spending as much as I did on it, I don't think I've ever sunk this amount of money into a game before & I didn't even buy much. Suppose I'm counting when the game released as well, I paid extra to get the bundle thing since I wanted the Ecto Pirate & I also bought a copy for a friend before it released because I was enjoying playing the beta & knew it was his sort of thing & it sounds like he enjoyed watching the people who were streaming the beta so there's that cost on top of paying for some skins this year, I admit there were some I absolutely wanted & went for them but I only do that for my must have skins. Really, the kudos system should be reworked a little, helps those unable or not willing to pay for skins like I have the luxury of getting ones for free back when the game was new, just had to earn the kudos for it or crowns if they were crown items but most of what I bought of the crown items were small things like face plates, many people today didn't have that & I feel for them. Heck, I started a second account just to see & yeah, after completing the ladder on the new account, if I only wore skins I bought with kudos or show bucks I earned, I looked like a noob & when I wore something off the ladder, it didn't feel significant, reminded me of when I did beta & there was no shop so people wore either the bonus costumes or stuff off the ladder.
I got into Fall Guys when season 4 came out back in late March 2021, bought it on sale and fell in love with the game was great how you could earn currencies and use them to buy things, if I got into the game during season 1 FFA I don't think I would've stuck around. Kudos system needs to be reworked badly and something I could see happening cause you don't buy Kudos anymore. Never see OG beta testers around these days so cool to see one, we'll cool to me anyways lol.
@@Izzytorium Sometimes I see them in my games, funny thing one time I was wearing Crash Tester when doing squads with my friend for our dailies but I was targeted a lot so I changed into a different costume & we ended up with someone wearing crash tester in our squad that following match. We're still around, just not as many around anymore. I did see so many of them streaming back before Fall Guys released & watched a bit to see if I could learn some stuff because I sucked so badly at the game back then.
@@ToontownAndCpenguin They gave crash testers to people who joined at lest one session of the season 1 free for all beta, I'm one of those lucky few, literally joined the very last session, didn't know I got accepted to join the beta till I checked my email randomly which showed the timings for it, didn't get a "congrats you're in the B.O.B!" Type email.
@@Izzytorium Oh yeah, so it's hard to know who were originals that got in. Kinda funny, I ended up grabbing an old glitch on camera, I have a record button on my laptop & I pressed it because it was See-Saw & I wanted to share with my friends how awful people are at balancing those things & happened to grab a recording of the old See-Saw glitch that thankfully did get fixed, the whole see-saw would be frozen with everyone on it then they'd suddenly fall & respawn. Oddly enough, that ended up being my first time making it to a final but it was Hex-A-Gone & I was using mouse & keyboard, I wound up getting a controller that weekend because of how much of a nightmare it was to play without one.
Fall Guys should not use Fortnite's prices at all. In Fortnite, Skins are (with some exceptions) 800 - 2000 V-bucks, and they give you both a Skin and a Back Bling, which both can have edit styles, reactivity, and a built-in emote. In Fall Guys, you can get an upper and lower costume for 800 - 1500. Fall Guys costumes should cost 500 - 1000 show bucks, not the same price as Fortnite.
And also yes, other games have 1500 currency in the Battle Passes.
I've played fortnite way back In 2018 and for an hour so I'm not super familiar with it or any other battle royale, fall guys was the first one I got good at. But wow fortnite skins sound cool! FG definitely should be priced like fortnite skins
in fortnite they pretty much made 1200 for a skin the standard and they usually have styles and are very well made, not comparable to fallguys at all
I just played xtreme squads this morning and someone in my team immediately left.
Also i finally got the full normal miku costume.
Glad you got the costume!
I played a lot of fall guys before it was epic exclusive. I haven't touched it since.
I never liked epic games and their systems but I've given them chances on many occasions, however forcing me to use an epic games account or even the launcher for a game I have on steam since launch or on switch. nah fam. Seeing now what is happening to the game hurts, this was genuinely a great game that was sadly obscured by the sudden popularity among us had. sad to see this happen
I never understood the hate epic games got to be Frank, never played any multplayer game longer then 1 to 2 hours, this being the first the one first one I got good at. Can see the issues people have with epic games now, but I still enjoy the game and the newer maps are fun, this game has great potential just a lot of issues it needs to address.
Skill based matchmaking should be optional.
Don't get how that would work, like it be an option in the settings? I think that would fragment the playerbase even more cause they'll be non sbmm lobbies and sbmm lobbies, one might not he able to find matches forcing players to either play sbmm when they don't want to or vice versa.
As most people say Epic Games is turning Fall Guys to Fortnite 2 and it's really bad.
Indeed
I don't understand what is going on with fall guys dev. Back in SS1 it was my first time joining this game when it went f2p, it completely fine in my opinion, but when SS2 starts I see it's starting to get worse, mostly with the maps and variations, playing the same round over and over is boring as hell, we are far from not having so many round pool like legacy season 1.
Yup, they essentially made it to where you can only play the SS2 variants only which was fun for a week or so now its over stayed its welcome