I'm black, grew up in the BX and "looked" Latino. I remember when my Puerto Rican best friend said "you know those morenos" and spit some racist stuff it broke my heart. From that day forward I never really trusted another Latino. He thought I was one of them and was totally cool with being racist, when they give off the 2 faced vibe of we are all 1/together etc, but we really not. If you Latino and you racist against Blacks, just stand on it. Don't be fake.
@@Jon-bd4tk I had a Latino friend who looked Black and we can be around Puerto Ricans and he would sit there and listen to them talk about us and when we were about to leave he would start speaking Spanish and cuss their ass out and they would have a shocked look on their faces. But he himself schooled me on the Racism that Puerto Ricans had against Blacks
I agree, when people say things instead of being outraged and wanting an apology, just be thankful that they revealed their true self. That way, you'll know how to detail with them from there on.
Fat Joe has always been like this!!! Even back in the big pun days! Joe has always been depressingly jealous and envious of black Americans! Why are y’all just finding this out??? White Puerto Ricans like joe and j.lo call dark skinned Puerto Ricans Moreno! Which is a clear sign that they don’t view dark skinned Puerto Ricans as authentic Puerto Ricans! Pay attention
I don't listen to DJ Khaled. Are you saying he says the N-word, too? He's not even Latino. Isn't he Arabic? Arabs have African lineage, too, but a lot of them are racist against black people.
@@blackkirbyopinion3355 Paul Mooney wrong Mexican don't wanna be black cuban don't. I DominicaN been telling ya to ya face we no black. Stop it. Mooney bozo
Fat Joe has said a few things that made me question who he really is. When he disrespected Lil Mo and Vita during the Versus, that was it. He should've been cancelled a long time ago!
That was disrespectful but I don’t think it was enough but this is something else more because of how he said it and didn’t use his words carefully when talking don’t something this controversial
@pandachop joe has over 30 years of doing and saying racist things!! Starting with his use of the nword!! Why are you making excuses for joe?? A white boy like joe disrespecting black women is more than enough to cancel Joe!
@@pandachopnewsyou’re always trying to explain something like people can’t make their own distinction & comprehension of what was said. Using his words carefully? Calling black women crack heads & b*tches on a global platform was way more than “not using his words carefully”. Even when Ja said something to him…he kept on. You are flat out buggin & need to stop trying change the narrative of disrespect. It’s what he said & how he said it.
Not a smart move imo to be dissing black people while using the n word. Now I do believe he was talking specifically about a group of black people and not all black people but it was definitely taken the wrong way because of HOW he communicated his point
What you mean a specific group of black people.Most black people in the United States are Foundational Black Americans.Meaning we are descendants of African slaves that built the foundation for America.When he made that comment he was talking the majority of us.Fuck Fat Joe.Plus he was using the N word very loosely while he made the comment.Why he don't use the word Spic.Why latinos don't embrace that word.Every other race use the N word.That shit is derogatory coming from other races of people besides black.@pandachopnews
@@pandachopnewsYea, the Bronx has always been different from Harlem. Harlem is historically a pro black area, so that might the reason for racial tension.
Why do Latinos call themselves Spanish and none of them been to Spain that means British owned African American decendants of slaves should call themselves English they not Spanish, Spain is in Europe.
Hell no! That’s a lie people are trying to spin it’s the same as it’s always been they hates us we welcomed them in a couple of they women may like a couple of us a couple Pr dudes may chill with a couple of us but for the most part the majority they hate us we don’t really think about them outside of wanting they women which even if one of their women sleeps with one of us they would never touch that woman ever again now that should tell you all you need to know but your most likely one of them so you wouldn’t admit it any way!
I agree that them NYC Ricans PHONY TUFF SUCKA mfs, however ain't it BLK guys that CHOOSE & want Rican b-----s thou!!?? but complain when Ricans don't want ya around, if u KNOW they PHONY, then stop tryna real wit they women also, NYC Rican b-----s 4SURE VERY superficial, ego driven, narratistic, PHONY TUFF, try 2 hard type b------s, so y deal wit them??
@AmberSantana-is3dq that's not true! As artists, producers have to get out that music worldwide! It's an investment to the producers who can suffer financial loss! There is no gatekeeping by producers to keep people from investing in the business of rap! Quincy Jones was a producer, Prince was a producer, etc! Maybe, if the rap artists stop living what they are rapping and learn other areas of the music business, they would fare even better and maybe, live to old age! I am not antisemitic, and you may not be, either! Your comment sure was! Are you aware the entertainment business was looked down on by the mainstream? Artists, rather in the music or movie business were seen as lowlifes? Since the beginning, they were there investing and promoting!
Fat Joe been had a problem. I believe (if I can recall exactly) he was interviewing Katt and he asked what type of women he dated and Katt said sistahs. And Fat Joe looked shocked and said that he did not look like he dated sistahs. I was like what the hell does that mean, Katt is black! What is wrong with black men dating black women? So tired of the negative rhetoric being push about blacks in general. And I date Latinos and yes the lighter complexion Hispanics can be very racists even Dominicans who are darker than me. It’s so sad. Black men love Latinas but be careful. Some hide their true feelings about blacks. They will date the men but hate their northern and sisters. Look at Cardi B.
Y'all are a part of the problem because you'll learn this kind of info and STILL date them. When it's y'all, you'll individualize the behavior. When it's a black woman dating out, we're all kinds of "bed wenches" and all the men we're interested in only want us as a f/tish. So...
You gotta remember, Joe was getting bullied by black guys in his neighborhood until he clicked up with other Latinos. And most of his drama has been with black people. So there’s some resentment there. But he’s 100% wrong with his comments about FBA.
@@f8c3themusic he should of got over. He probably would had got bullied regards if he looked boriqua, or a chubby lightskin kid. You know how internal colorism goes.
Sounds like an excuse, so should all black people hate all white people because of how they treated us in the past and present? You either are or you aren't ain't no bullshyte middle.
Spaniards Are WHITE!!! End Of Story! But You Blacks Welcomed All These Spanish, Now You Don’t Like Them??? ITS THE BLACKS THAT ARE THE TRUE DISGUSTING RACISTS!!! FACT!!!!!
That's the Spaniard Potraguese bloodline in him. When common sense would tell you that he is a wounded Lil boy who was bullied, doesn't know his history and doesn't understand that he is a GUEST in the Hip Hop Community Fat Joe learn your place like Slim Shady learnt and Tread Lightly.
@@pandachopnews It's fake. Not even black people are together. Go fuq a woman, make some babies and then hopefully you will have your own click. People who preach togetherness are usually the same ones selling the good through the backdoor.
lol anytime you target a group with the intent to diminish undermine or strip it’s racial why didn’t he say he wanted to take the corporate distribution from Jews
Fat Joe seems like he’s been acting like he doesn’t really support Black people lately. Pay attention, everyone-he’s been doing this for about two years now, and we’re not feeling it. I’m from the Bronx, and it’s disappointing to see this. Why are you hating on black people? We don’t need you-you need us. Remember where you came from and who’s been supporting you all these years. Let’s not forget that.
@@pandachopnewswell his ignorance is crazy. FBA is a lineage your born into, its not a cult or a radical group or any of that. I’m FBA or ADOS because my families lineage can be traced all the way back to slavery- thats it✅
@@pandachopnews why would he call FBA radical tho? That’s the point🤨 he didn’t call out radical ppl, he was talking about FBA exclusively, don’t act dense. The excuses ppl make for ppl they fuck with says a lot about them. I wouldn’t defend something I don’t support.
@ Black people are taught to care about unity with others by other groups, namely whites and so-called brown people among other minority groups. Problem is, those groups don’t advocate for a black agenda the way that we actively advocate for theirs.
@pandachopnews you're extremely intent on rationalizing racism. Your response is not the same scenario. Other racial groups rally around our gifts and talents and usurp them as their own all the while yelling "We're all one". Then when they fill up on our sht here they come talkin about "We the best and the originators!" The only unity that exists between Black people and anyone else is the loyalty we foolishly share with everyone as they rob our culture.
@@pandachopnewsit’s always been 1 sided. These other groups NEVER reciprocated FBA kinship. There’s no black and brown coalition and there’s no Pan Africanism.
Yes they took it down. Before that Hoff took down my comment and I did not use profanity or any racially charged comment. I stated FACTS with evidence and where you can go look things up about Black American Muisc. FBA was on sloppy joe ass.
Big Pun always spoke highly of FBA. He even put on Remy Ma, when he could’ve easily chosen a Latina to be apart of TS. And I do believe Cuban when he says that Joe sees himself as better than Blacks. His rant on Math’s show calling FBA broke proves that.
Crazy how him and Khaled say the n word constantly and be so involved in the black culture , rap but neither married a black woman . Both made sure to find a woman of their race out of all the rappers and black people they are around everyday . Its def a red flag .
@@P.idouble my thing with them two is that out of these years being involved in a culture that black people created ...they made sure to find one of their own . Look at Paul Wall ....he married a black woman . Our culture is infectious .
@@crackmanjones1710 yeah those artists know they would have more opportunities if they just faked it and got along but something in them won’t allow them to play the politics
I respect Link for how he explained it because I know that he has issues with Joe, but Link was fair enough to be equal instead of spewing trash on Joe. Link is a real one. 💯
@pandachopnews You gotta respect a fair man even in the midst of war, battle, or dispute. It's about character and not being a character at the end of the day. Hopefully, Joe will watch this interview and give Link his flowers, and they'll reconcile. T Squad is historic at the end of the day. I'm sure Pun would want cats to squad it out as opposed to bringing that terror. RIP to all pointless hip hop beef, and "Beat Street" is a Black and Brown hip hop classic. RIP "Ramo." 1984, lol. We did it Big and Pun. 🎤 🎙
When you hear a person saying “speak your truth,” Ignore that person. There is no “your truth” vs “my truth.” And Joe is fat, with pale skin… how is he feeling himself?
I live in NYC, and while I can’t generalize about all Latinos, I’ve noticed something in my interactions with some of them. There often seems to be a sense of discomfort or distrust toward Black people, even when those Black people are kind and friendly. This distrust can feel stronger than what I’ve experienced from the average white person. With white people, even if there’s no deep connection, there’s often a basic level of understanding in interactions. But with some Latinos, it’s different. Many may smile in your face, but you can sense a hidden resentment or tension. It feels like there’s an underlying condescension or anger toward Black people, and it’s sad to see how these attitudes seem ingrained. Black people are starting to notice this dynamic more. In the past, we naturally referred to Latinos as our cousins, but now we’re more cautious because of the racism we’ve experienced. Of course, not all Latinos are like this-there are plenty of cool and respectful individuals. But unfortunately, some will turn their back on you without hesitation, which makes it difficult to fully trust. It’s a complex and sensitive issue, and while it’s important to acknowledge these experiences, it’s also essential to approach the conversation with nuance and understanding.
Honestly, I first learned about race from my racist Hispanic friends. My Puerto Rican friend said don't call him a dirty ass Dominican. I guess it's a mentality within that culture. Because we embraced everybody in our culture and I don't understand why other people will approach what we've built with the type of mentality that they do and why we treat each other the way we do and treat them better than we treat one another while they s*** on us and we s*** on ourselves. We need to tighten up.
BIG RESPECT to CUBAN LINK. This mofo was ON FIRE and Fat Joe HATED him for it. Instead of Fat Joe coming back with another album, He should have put CUBAN LINK and the rest of Terror Squad out first, THEN drop J.O.S.E. album
I’ve been around Latinos in BX, and BK and had dudes arguing with their fathers, uncles, and grandfathers because they were saying anti black ish including but not limited to “why you bring that coke colo here? You know they steal” which was ironic because these particular men were some thieving mofos! But shout to the dudes that stood they ground against their relatives.
I do think in a lot of cultures the elders were the ones that were racist and not understanding. Now sometimes some of that passes down to the next generation but it shouldn’t represent the entire group as a whole especially not anymore.
@@robluv4592 Let me guess...another non black non fba trying to tell us where we're from and what we are. Dont y'all get it YET?? We dont give af about your definitions, WE define who we are not you.
Joe was definitely NOT “the wackest” rapper in Terror Squad. He just didn’t compare to Big Pun - But to be fair, NOBODY else did either. 🤣 So now, who else in TS was so much better than Joey? … He was right up there, holding his own w/ the rest of them (Linx, etc) … Again, PUN was ahead of ALL OF THEM.
@ IDK if that’s true (it MIGHT be) but then ask yourself this … IF* everyone wrote for him, then WHEN did he start writing for himself? 🤔 Like what Album did Joe START writing his own stuff? 🤔 AND why is it that Joe became a BETTER rapper later in his career than he was back then? 🤔 (he just found talent suddenly when he left them guys? 🤣 Makes NO sense) He started writing HITS all by himself, LATER in life. That’s crazy to even believe.
then its time to flex muscle and cancel him across the board. imagine that one continental african voice just a tiny critic and y'all have smoke for days. but this fat dude , naaaaah,
@@pandachopnewsI'm a New York South Bronx native. They always stayed to themselves. We never talked bad about them even in private. Everyone is prejudice and racist against us..... That's a fact. The nice guy finishes last. We've been nice to everyone......damn that..
Marine Officer Here. Forget Fat Joey. FBA’s got the best gift ever, Kamala’s Loss. Joey and his kind are still Butt hurt over that. All their dreams are crushed. Joey’s last hit was the 2004 single "Lean Back", 20 years ago! Hip-Hop is 51 years old, Fat Joey is 54. How is he an originator?
We loved n respected Big Pun. When Big Pun passed this crushed the hip hop community ,. His voice was magic and we waited for anything Big Pun did. No one really knew Fat Joe an didn't care , Big Pun was our Fav he is so missed ,
Well I think they knew him but he wasn’t respected on the level of Pun. Pun was a rappers rapper. Joe did contribute to his career BUT Pun contributed to Joe’s legacy.
If this is even a question about chess and what moves are...then you don't know chess... stick the checkers... your mind is not there....My nine year-old son is more advanced than you...🥴😬
@@pandachopnews us black americans never say racist things about hispanics behind closed doors , all races dont do it because we dont do it , but when hispanics or whites or chinese do it or hear they family doing it towards us , they use that same excuse
Even Konnan the wrestler said Fat Joe was asking him why he was hanging out with Rey Mysterio cause Rey was Mexican. So I guess Joe felt a certain way about Mexicans too. Joe also said himself is own Mom's questioned why he was doing hip hop as a white looking Latino, although Joe admits as a Rican he has African/Black ancestry. Not to mention Liza Pun's wife is Black/Afro Rican, so that means Pun's children are part Black too. So if Joe really don't like Black folk that would be crazy.
He’s the wrong person, and trust me there is no WE until they need US for something 💯Stay WOKE👍🏾
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Idk why folks think blacks can be racist it takes power to be racist we can be prejudice know the real definition of racist and not Webster yt man definition
All Puerto Ricans have exactly 21%? I don’t think genetics works like that but yes Puerto Ricans have African blood through the slave trade. I just think Joe could have phrased things better
@pandachopnews on top of there being tendencies, in regards to the public things he'd say, this is solely my opinion. But being racist doesn't subject you to being a bad individual. Just means that you're misinformed. You can be racist and not be a racist. Racism is a behavior. However, to dwell further in depth into whether or not he's a bad or good individual, I'd have to have known him his whole life, and I don't know him more than what he puts on to be in front of cameras.
For the record Cuban is on video flat out saying “I’m Black Too”. It was during the bang bang boogie era. The interviewer asked him about being in a group with black dudes & he said that without hesitation. He didn’t front & wasn’t pandering for the camera. I always saluted him for saying that on camera. If you really listen to Cubans verses he lets you know he grew up in black culture. He always puts something in there to let you know he’s official about the black dna he has. If you listen to his verse on “Tell Me” he begins his flow in the cadence of “don’t look any further” by Dennis Edwards. A lot of people didn’t catch that. If you notice he keeps making a clear distinction between the Afro-Latinos (me, pun & seis) in the crew & Joe.
Well Cubans have African blood through the slave trade so he knows that but he also respects that black people may feel a way about Latinos in NY saying the N word even though that’s the culture
@@pandachopnewsI’m stating this because some people may think Cuban is fronting. I know he’s not. I also grew up in Old School NY…so I already know what time it is with latin’s and that word. Secondly my dad is Black/Dominican & My Mom is Black/Puerto Rican. I’m well versed on all 3 cultures & heritage. Him being Cuban is a formality being that it’s just another stop on the voyage.
@@pandachopnews what I would argue tho is that I feel like u have more cubans and puerto ricans (not dominicans) acknowledging their african blood than black americans. Some blackamericans do but not all of them. Blackamericans don't walk around talkin about their african rythm and culture heritage. But at the same time in the US africans were not allowed to practice african rythm compared to africans deported in brazil and in other parts of central and south america. That's why cubans for instance have a very african rythmic music compared to blackamerican music. The one who really brought african rythm in his music is James Brown in the 1970's especially. Singers of the motown for instance were doing music that white people could relate 2.
@@lorenzbeaumacc1175black Americans don’t have to acknowledge something that blatant. Motown never marketed their artists to white Americans or their audience. I don’t know why you would even suggest that…let alone say it. Motown was always the epitome of black music. Just because they didn’t scream I’m black and I’m proud on every record doesn’t mean they sang music that was only digestible for a yt audience. Every African instrument that was played in Brazil, cuba & any other melanated place…was played by African Americans as well. Your “opinion” is very misguided and not factual. No one would ever say James was the “only” anything. I would suggest you do the knowledge on the last poets & Gil Scott Heron and people like that to see of James was the “only”…lol. It was many before and after James.
@@lorenzbeaumacc1175most Black Americans don’t have African ancestry. You sound ignorant. There’s something called genealogy. Black Americans don’t have any connection to Africa. Less than 400,000 Africans were brought to the American soil. We were already here and were enslaved here. Africans went by the millions to the islands and South America. They are Afro because they have actual African ancestry. We aren’t African here my guy. Africans don’t have the inventions we have, music genres and law. We’re a unique/special people to be honest. Those that left Europe and those indigenous to the soil mixed to create a new ethnic group. We’re the Americans.
@pandachopnews I think fat joe bka the beluga whale has been racist behind closed doors. I'm black, and not 1 time have I sat at a dinner table with other black people and they are speaking a bunch of racist shit. Never happened to me.
Growing up seeing rakim, big daddy cane 2pac nwa snoop ect there wasn’t any Puerto Ricans rappers like that they supported danced ect we grew up together but fat joe definitely on 2 something wrong but I got love for the whole hood especially big pun 💯
@@chasemanhattan3957 We had Spanish and French in high school but I don’t remember African language classes. What country in Africa are you speaking of?
@@chasemanhattan3957 depends on which blacks you're talking about because blacks are all over from Latin America to Australia, etc. Spanish is the language force on Hispanics unless they are from Spain itself and are unmixed white people. Africa or African isn't a language, it is a continent full of languages.
Cuban Link is a real one. We had no problems with our Puerto Rican brothers. I lived around and worked with some cool PR dudes who had my back. It is disheartening to see some Puerto Ricans turn on us because we want to keep the history accurate. We are not taking anything away from what the Puerto Rican brothers did when they did it.
There is a small group that has this agenda of connecting themselves with the start of what became known as hip hop. One of the main people is Derrick Colon. He interviewed several PR B Boys from back in the day who told him on camera that it started with Black folks but he doesn’t want to hear the truth. He is obsessed as if to say that “y’all can’t have that distinction” no matter what the facts are. Joe butt crack was only 3 years old in 1973 he should sit down shut up and learn the true history. They are being very disrespectful.
All the shit this dude been talking about fat joe. As soon as joe in some trouble with FBAS you see how they get on code with each other and start protecting him in a sense. Makes me ask myself? R FBA people the most Invidious people on the planet?
I'm older enough to remember Fat Joe came into the game as a Latin King leader. In those days there was Major beef between the Kings against Many black gangs around the East Coast. I'm not surprised. I've never forgotten
Joe was never a Latin king. He had beef with the Latin kings at one point. Watch this interview clip i did. Cano Almighty Talks Fat Joe Vs Latin Kings & Frankie Cutlass [Part 17] ruclips.net/video/7Wob_EhT1Po/видео.html
@pandachopnews being in CT and growing up around P R an Dominicans. Around the time between 91-94 this was the talk. Now maybe at some point he had fallen out. However he was rocking the beads.
Yes he did! Also Andre the Giant from Patterson Projects in the BX . Sad to hear! The whole DITC thing. Just remember who was the DJ who took the two turntables in the Bronx and started the trend of people uniting and getting together forgetting about the ghetto misery for a moment. Hip Hop. DJ Kool Herc ! 1520 Sedgwick Avenue Bronx NY. Son of Jamaican immigrants! I say less ! Black folk started and created HipHop just like Rock and Roll!!
Cuba when you gonna start your own podcast and put your music out through your podcast, we tune in we love you, bro we behind you start doing your own thing, bro you’re talented. You’re funny you have charisma. Let’s go, brother.!
Taino, African, and European.. Puerto Ricans WTH? Tell Joe to do an ancestry test. Claiming your colonization opposed to your actual DNA is crazy. Joe has some homework to do.
So many ethnicities hate black people but mock everything we created 🙄DIS man was wit DAT shyt too and it's Ricans and Dominicans blacker then us PPL are crazy🤦🏾♀️🇭🇹💯
💯💯💯 he said those speeches were more like pep talks from a coach at half time BUT he still said he’s witnessed Joe tell racist stories so he just kept it real
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Fat Joe's History of Alleged Racism
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I'm black, grew up in the BX and "looked" Latino. I remember when my Puerto Rican best friend said "you know those morenos" and spit some racist stuff it broke my heart. From that day forward I never really trusted another Latino. He thought I was one of them and was totally cool with being racist, when they give off the 2 faced vibe of we are all 1/together etc, but we really not. If you Latino and you racist against Blacks, just stand on it. Don't be fake.
@@Jon-bd4tk but you can’t take one situation and say that represents the entire group
Alot of them feel that way..
@@Jon-bd4tk I had a Latino friend who looked Black and we can be around Puerto Ricans and he would sit there and listen to them talk about us and when we were about to leave he would start speaking Spanish and cuss their ass out and they would have a shocked look on their faces. But he himself schooled me on the Racism that Puerto Ricans had against Blacks
@pandachopnews Why not? Y'all do the same thing.
@@pandachopnews bro alot of them feel this way.. joe look key racesit!!
Glad Joe said what he said..now we can see him for who he really is
That’s definitely one way to look at it. Rather know who you’re dealing with
I agree, when people say things instead of being outraged and wanting an apology, just be thankful that they revealed their true self. That way, you'll know how to detail with them from there on.
Fat Joe has always been like this!!! Even back in the big pun days! Joe has always been depressingly jealous and envious of black Americans! Why are y’all just finding this out???
White Puerto Ricans like joe and j.lo call dark skinned Puerto Ricans Moreno! Which is a clear sign that they don’t view dark skinned Puerto Ricans as authentic Puerto Ricans! Pay attention
@@bubblybubbles4023 🎯
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Not a narrative.
Simply the truth.
Joe and Khaled wack asf
🍓🍑🍓🍑🍓 too
I don't listen to DJ Khaled. Are you saying he says the N-word, too? He's not even Latino. Isn't he Arabic? Arabs have African lineage, too, but a lot of them are racist against black people.
Who are u people smh
@@justkeepingreal2967 Tell your boy Joey that if he says the N-word to the wrong brother, he might be flat.
@@justkeepingreal2967 We are people who have you upset.
Paul Mooney said it best everybody wants to be black but does not want to be black at the same time. Let's keep it 💯
Yep everyone what’s to a nigga until it’s time to be a nigga
I quote that twice a week about SOMETHING! 😂
"Everybody wanna be a ngga but nobody wanna be a ngga.
@@blackkirbyopinion3355 Paul Mooney wrong Mexican don't wanna be black cuban don't. I DominicaN been telling ya to ya face we no black. Stop it. Mooney bozo
Meaning they mixed
@JulioCoca-th9le no meaning no other group wants to go through BS like black trust no one wants to be born like us
Go to Spain and say your "Spanish" ...the Spaniards will let u know...
You got that right!!!!! They will say you just speak Spanish but you ain’t Espanol!!!!
@@JcryptoWalker-g5jFacts!!!
😂😂😂💯
We don't say we are Spanish, we only SPEAK Spanish. We are proud of our own countries.
Plus, Real European Spanish were Dark skin Arabians from North Africa and West Asia. Spanish language derived from Arabic language.
Fat Joe has said a few things that made me question who he really is. When he disrespected Lil Mo and Vita during the Versus, that was it. He should've been cancelled a long time ago!
That was disrespectful but I don’t think it was enough but this is something else more because of how he said it and didn’t use his words carefully when talking don’t something this controversial
@pandachop joe has over 30 years of doing and saying racist things!! Starting with his use of the nword!!
Why are you making excuses for joe?? A white boy like joe disrespecting black women is more than enough to cancel Joe!
@@pandachopnewsIt seems you're making excuses for Joe. Didn't use his words carefully? 🤔 He said what he said because he meant it.
@@pandachopnewsyou’re always trying to explain something like people can’t make their own distinction & comprehension of what was said. Using his words carefully? Calling black women crack heads & b*tches on a global platform was way more than “not using his words carefully”. Even when Ja said something to him…he kept on. You are flat out buggin & need to stop trying change the narrative of disrespect. It’s what he said & how he said it.
This!!! 💯💯💯
I met Joe. I grew up on the streets in a gang. I’m pretty good at seeing what people really are. Joe is not a good person at all.
@@sammynatal6471 what was it that made you feel that way?
That's what we call a SNAKE!!!
Leo like my daughter mother they are wicked people
@@VictorGuzman-ei6wu You chose her Sir...hopefully you found better
@@jayajaya788why say u chose her when he clearly told u it was a mistake obviously…always trying to point at others error. Evil
Yo I saw Fat Joe recent interview with Math and I kept saying to myself. Joe is using the N word a little too loosely.
Not a smart move imo to be dissing black people while using the n word. Now I do believe he was talking specifically about a group of black people and not all black people but it was definitely taken the wrong way because of HOW he communicated his point
What you mean a specific group of black people.Most black people in the United States are Foundational Black Americans.Meaning we are descendants of African slaves that built the foundation for America.When he made that comment he was talking the majority of us.Fuck Fat Joe.Plus he was using the N word very loosely while he made the comment.Why he don't use the word Spic.Why latinos don't embrace that word.Every other race use the N word.That shit is derogatory coming from other races of people besides black.@pandachopnews
But you love when drake uses it
But here's the thing you heard Cuban link use it when he said my nigga what's the difference
@DeenoverDunya215 because it's fake anger.. The whole community is monkey see monkey do.
Fat Joe was the wackest rapper in D.I.T.C facts
Facts. Sloppy Joe is probably the wackest rapper in NYC
@@bryanhenderson4801 damn in the whole NYC?! More than Diddy??
@@bryanhenderson4801 Now, yeah! But 93/95 Joe was on point. Now I can't stand him.
@@sureslick1 93/95 Joe had king sun pen and others writing his songs his rhymes were never effective honestly
@@doggman9795 King Sun definitely was penning his rhymes but does it count if someone else writes your rhymes?
I grew up in east Harlem amd blacks and Spanish always acted funny with each other fat joe aint doing nothing new
Is the culture in the Bronx different then?
Not me all my black brother's are black ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@pandachopnewsYea, the Bronx has always been different from Harlem. Harlem is historically a pro black area, so that might the reason for racial tension.
Why do Latinos call themselves Spanish and none of them been to Spain that means British owned African American decendants of slaves should call themselves English they not Spanish, Spain is in Europe.
Hell no! That’s a lie people are trying to spin it’s the same as it’s always been they hates us we welcomed them in a couple of they women may like a couple of us a couple Pr dudes may chill with a couple of us but for the most part the majority they hate us we don’t really think about them outside of wanting they women which even if one of their women sleeps with one of us they would never touch that woman ever again now that should tell you all you need to know but your most likely one of them so you wouldn’t admit it any way!
I never understood why Black people in America always included Puerto Ricans in our struggles... Puerto Ricans never liked us, and that's a fact!!!
I agree that them NYC Ricans PHONY TUFF SUCKA mfs, however ain't it BLK guys that CHOOSE & want Rican b-----s thou!!?? but complain when Ricans don't want ya around, if u KNOW they PHONY, then stop tryna real wit they women also, NYC Rican b-----s 4SURE VERY superficial, ego driven, narratistic, PHONY TUFF, try 2 hard type b------s, so y deal wit them??
Are you from NY?
That is a fact.
Respectfullly disagree,love all for real but all can never think the same.
We don't hate people tho yall due be
"They not like us" Kendrick Lamar
No we don't purchase baby oil by the boat loads that's definitely not us 💯
@@AngelRivera-vh7bz salsa stepper go and eat a burrito or something
Naw Kendrick ain't with Us
@@riccorichKendrick screams industry plant
@@AngelRivera-vh7bz you guys need a new joke. You can't just talk about Diddy every day for the rest of your life 🤦🏿♂️
Gatekeeping black culture? What does he and people like him understand! Foundational Black Americans is a culture and not an organization!
It’s a lineage.
Same people invested in FBA is the same people. Behind BLM ..seems like blacks enjoy being bamboozled
He's a racist Spaniard showing his true colors. Nothing new under the sun.
But how can you gatekeep something you don’t own Jews own hip hop that’s their treasure not fba 😂 the Jews made decisions not aa
@AmberSantana-is3dq that's not true! As artists, producers have to get out that music worldwide! It's an investment to the producers who can suffer financial loss! There is no gatekeeping by producers to keep people from investing in the business of rap! Quincy Jones was a producer, Prince was a producer, etc! Maybe, if the rap artists stop living what they are rapping and learn other areas of the music business, they would fare even better and maybe, live to old age! I am not antisemitic, and you may not be, either! Your comment sure was! Are you aware the entertainment business was looked down on by the mainstream? Artists, rather in the music or movie business were seen as lowlifes? Since the beginning, they were there investing and promoting!
Fat Joe been had a problem. I believe (if I can recall exactly) he was interviewing Katt and he asked what type of women he dated and Katt said sistahs. And Fat Joe looked shocked and said that he did not look like he dated sistahs. I was like what the hell does that mean, Katt is black! What is wrong with black men dating black women? So tired of the negative rhetoric being push about blacks in general. And I date Latinos and yes the lighter complexion Hispanics can be very racists even Dominicans who are darker than me. It’s so sad. Black men love Latinas but be careful. Some hide their true feelings about blacks. They will date the men but hate their northern and sisters. Look at Cardi B.
I need to check out that Fat Joe and Katy Williams interview. Never seen it. That’s crazy
Y'all are a part of the problem because you'll learn this kind of info and STILL date them. When it's y'all, you'll individualize the behavior. When it's a black woman dating out, we're all kinds of "bed wenches" and all the men we're interested in only want us as a f/tish. So...
You gotta remember, Joe was getting bullied by black guys in his neighborhood until he clicked up with other Latinos. And most of his drama has been with black people. So there’s some resentment there. But he’s 100% wrong with his comments about FBA.
No I can understand but black people put him on (DITC) and Cuban said it here he was bullied so that’s why he felt how he did
@ true. But he was apparently bullied in his projects as a kid as well. Before DITC. I don’t think he got over that.
@@f8c3themusic he makes racist comments but use the word nigga lol he wants blk acceptance without being blk...ppl like him make me laugh.
@@f8c3themusic he should of got over. He probably would had got bullied regards if he looked boriqua, or a chubby lightskin kid. You know how internal colorism goes.
Sounds like an excuse, so should all black people hate all white people because of how they treated us in the past and present? You either are or you aren't ain't no bullshyte middle.
I always knew Sloppy Joe was whack
Wake?
Whack
Sloppy Joe is hilarious! 😭
No black or brown alliance
Unity is better than separation though
@@pandachopnews Facts is facts though. No need in kidding ourself
No one likes blacks .
They not even brown. The whole thing a fallacy.
Black isn't a race. Real Brown people are real Spanish from Europe, Spanish were Dark skin arabics. Do your research smh
you can look at Cuban link and see a Taino. I'll look at fat Joe and see a white boy. 😂
@@captivesojournerI don't... I see a white boy With a ten by standing in the sun on a Sunny day He's no different than fat joe
It is possible that is why he had Cuban face cut because he is a Afro Latino.
Taino Aren’t Black At All!
Spaniards Are WHITE!!! End Of Story! But You Blacks Welcomed All These Spanish, Now You Don’t Like Them??? ITS THE BLACKS THAT ARE THE TRUE DISGUSTING RACISTS!!! FACT!!!!!
That's the Spaniard Potraguese bloodline in him. When common sense would tell you that he is a wounded Lil boy who was bullied, doesn't know his history and doesn't understand that he is a GUEST in the Hip Hop Community Fat Joe learn your place like Slim Shady learnt and Tread Lightly.
I'm from Brooklyn New York. I always thought we were supposed to be together but we're not, and we never was, and that's facts!
Did you not see unity before or you mean it was fake?
@@pandachopnews It's fake. Not even black people are together. Go fuq a woman, make some babies and then hopefully you will have your own click. People who preach togetherness are usually the same ones selling the good through the backdoor.
lol anytime you target a group with the intent to diminish undermine or strip it’s racial why didn’t he say he wanted to take the corporate distribution from Jews
Fat Joe seems like he’s been acting like he doesn’t really support Black people lately. Pay attention, everyone-he’s been doing this for about two years now, and we’re not feeling it. I’m from the Bronx, and it’s disappointing to see this. Why are you hating on black people? We don’t need you-you need us. Remember where you came from and who’s been supporting you all these years. Let’s not forget that.
Do you see it as him dissing black people as a whole or just radical ones? Because he said FBA is a certain group of radicals
@@pandachopnewswell his ignorance is crazy. FBA is a lineage your born into, its not a cult or a radical group or any of that. I’m FBA or ADOS because my families lineage can be traced all the way back to slavery- thats it✅
@@pandachopnews Why hasn't he called out radical PRs?
@@pandachopnews why would he call FBA radical tho? That’s the point🤨 he didn’t call out radical ppl, he was talking about FBA exclusively, don’t act dense. The excuses ppl make for ppl they fuck with says a lot about them. I wouldn’t defend something I don’t support.
@FCLaney Panda Chop is Latino he's bias, and he's not from this culture
Joey is cancelled 💯 FBA 💯
Do you seriously think he’s going to be cancelled or is this just a temporary news headline that people will move on from?
Yall ain't cancel Busta rhymes tho👀🇺🇸
@@br3d1989 he finished too. Why would he be using what's left of his star power for Walmart commercials. He cooked!
@br3d1989 Busta rhymes crashed out and cried on stage because the crowd wasn't feeling him. He's got nothing left.
@@br3d1989we been finished wit him,
They preach about black n brown “coalition” but amongst themselves they teach “mejorar la raza” 😒
Do black people not also care about unity with others but also want what’s best for their own?
@ Black people are taught to care about unity with others by other groups, namely whites and so-called brown people among other minority groups.
Problem is, those groups don’t advocate for a black agenda the way that we actively advocate for theirs.
@pandachopnews you're extremely intent on rationalizing racism. Your response is not the same scenario. Other racial groups rally around our gifts and talents and usurp them as their own all the while yelling "We're all one". Then when they fill up on our sht here they come talkin about "We the best and the originators!"
The only unity that exists between Black people and anyone else is the loyalty we foolishly share with everyone as they rob our culture.
Yeah, but blacks don't fake, including others, then talk greasy about them behind closed doors. That's the difference.
@@pandachopnewsit’s always been 1 sided. These other groups NEVER reciprocated FBA kinship. There’s no black and brown coalition and there’s no Pan Africanism.
MATH TOOK DOWN THE LAST CLIP OF JOE TALKING THAT BLACK RACIST FBA NONSENSE?! JOE GOT SCARED! THEY PLAYED THEMSELVES & NOW JOE IS SCRAMBLING! 🤡🤡
Oh he did?? Dam.. I'm not surprised!
😂😂😂😂😂 They better stop playing with the lineage.
Yes they took it down. Before that Hoff took down my comment and I did not use profanity or any racially charged comment. I stated FACTS with evidence and where you can go look things up about Black American Muisc. FBA was on sloppy joe ass.
Well Math it seems was riding with the bs himself and he ain't FBA. So... that makes sense.
@@I-canMakeTheGlobeShift can’t take down all the screen recorded and social media posts tho
WE Didn't Land On Puerto Rock, Puerto Rock Landed On US. -FBA
well said bruh
😂😂😂 💪💪
😩
😂😂😂
Good one
Big Pun always spoke highly of FBA. He even put on Remy Ma, when he could’ve easily chosen a Latina to be apart of TS. And I do believe Cuban when he says that Joe sees himself as better than Blacks. His rant on Math’s show calling FBA broke proves that.
Cuban kept it real here. He could have 💩on Joe even more if he wanted to but he just kept it real and was fair about it too.
@ Absolutely! That’s why I’ve always rocked with Cuban. He’s my favorite TS member.
@@Nina513Remy ma ain't FBA 😂 she's blk Caribbean
Fat Joe put on Remi just like fat Joe put on paw in the whole squad
That "now it's our time" will never sit well with me.
FBA, We here to stay.
Crazy how him and Khaled say the n word constantly and be so involved in the black culture , rap but neither married a black woman . Both made sure to find a woman of their race out of all the rappers and black people they are around everyday . Its def a red flag .
Great assessment but does it mean anything I see interracial couples as well as different skin toned couples what does it really equate to
@@P.idouble my thing with them two is that out of these years being involved in a culture that black people created ...they made sure to find one of their own . Look at Paul Wall ....he married a black woman . Our culture is infectious .
Khaled’s wife is a light skin black woman bro…
@dontem.8369 she is half Palestinian as well. Not just black. He wouldn't go that far lol. I like how she is his backbone in business as well.
DJ Vlad got a sistah. That doesn’t mean ish.
Rappers like Cuban, Pun and DMX is way too real for the industry.
Prodigy was too but I agree with you on those (RIP Pun and P).
@ yes you’re right, I read The Prodigy book and kept it mad real about everything. Even if he got beat up he would say it.
@@crackmanjones1710 yeah those artists know they would have more opportunities if they just faked it and got along but something in them won’t allow them to play the politics
I said last night that what Joe said was a BAD LOOK on my last video
@@pandachopnews super facts bro.
I respect Link for how he explained it because I know that he has issues with Joe, but Link was fair enough to be equal instead of spewing trash on Joe. Link is a real one. 💯
Exactly. He definitely kept it 💯
@pandachopnews You gotta respect a fair man even in the midst of war, battle, or dispute. It's about character and not being a character at the end of the day. Hopefully, Joe will watch this interview and give Link his flowers, and they'll reconcile. T Squad is historic at the end of the day. I'm sure Pun would want cats to squad it out as opposed to bringing that terror. RIP to all pointless hip hop beef, and "Beat Street" is a Black and Brown hip hop classic. RIP "Ramo." 1984, lol. We did it Big and Pun. 🎤 🎙
😅m. Mi ǰ
@@mrdanielleebrown Still wouldn't be TS without Pun... All the dope music they could have made... They would have run the game for a while 4 sho
Fabulous rapper'
When you hear a person saying “speak your truth,” Ignore that person. There is no “your truth” vs “my truth.”
And Joe is fat, with pale skin… how is he feeling himself?
He aint that fat as he used to be iykyk 😂
I always looked at Fat boy with a side eye . He said his quiet part outloud.
So much for that Black/brown alliance....
Fat Joe should have chose his words much more carefully but he spoke on emotion and it definitely did not help things.
It was NEVER EVER a thing.
😂 Santa Clause too
We aren’t black, and they aren’t brown. They’re white. Descendants of European immigrants. Stop it.
NEVER A THING!
FBA WE Put The Oil In Soil
😂😂😂 fake fba identity
@aferrer74 You Really Bout To Hate When You Find Out: WE'RE GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE
@FBA1979 🤣🤣🤣 God's chosen people u are American Indians, not african americans . U mean Africans real africans 🤣🤣
Y'all did it for zaddy lol with nothing to show for
Big ups to my man Cuban link…way better rapper than fat Joe!🇯🇲
Wayyy better
🫡🫡🫡
Time to show and prove and drop a new studio album.. 24K kinda classic but its been like 20 years ago since he came with that mediocre 'sophomore'
"fluorescent white" Cuban Link lol
😂😂😂
Cuban always gives off real "I used to be a crack head" energy. Probably clean these days but does a bump once or twice a year just cuz lol
I live in NYC, and while I can’t generalize about all Latinos, I’ve noticed something in my interactions with some of them. There often seems to be a sense of discomfort or distrust toward Black people, even when those Black people are kind and friendly. This distrust can feel stronger than what I’ve experienced from the average white person.
With white people, even if there’s no deep connection, there’s often a basic level of understanding in interactions. But with some Latinos, it’s different. Many may smile in your face, but you can sense a hidden resentment or tension. It feels like there’s an underlying condescension or anger toward Black people, and it’s sad to see how these attitudes seem ingrained.
Black people are starting to notice this dynamic more. In the past, we naturally referred to Latinos as our cousins, but now we’re more cautious because of the racism we’ve experienced. Of course, not all Latinos are like this-there are plenty of cool and respectful individuals. But unfortunately, some will turn their back on you without hesitation, which makes it difficult to fully trust.
It’s a complex and sensitive issue, and while it’s important to acknowledge these experiences, it’s also essential to approach the conversation with nuance and understanding.
What generation of Latinos are you taking? The old generation or new?
Honestly, I first learned about race from my racist Hispanic friends. My Puerto Rican friend said don't call him a dirty ass Dominican. I guess it's a mentality within that culture. Because we embraced everybody in our culture and I don't understand why other people will approach what we've built with the type of mentality that they do and why we treat each other the way we do and treat them better than we treat one another while they s*** on us and we s*** on ourselves. We need to tighten up.
BIG RESPECT to CUBAN LINK. This mofo was ON FIRE and Fat Joe HATED him for it. Instead of Fat Joe coming back with another album, He should have put CUBAN LINK and the rest of Terror Squad out first, THEN drop J.O.S.E. album
💯💯💯 Joe couldn’t stand seeing anyone outshine him that’s why
I'm so glad that Cuban link is not wearing a baseball cap backwards like a fifteen year old.
😂😂😂 come on why does that matter so much?
@pandachopnews you know what I'm talking about 😂😂😂
I’ve been around Latinos in BX, and BK and had dudes arguing with their fathers, uncles, and grandfathers because they were saying anti black ish including but not limited to “why you bring that coke colo here? You know they steal” which was ironic because these particular men were some thieving mofos! But shout to the dudes that stood they ground against their relatives.
I do think in a lot of cultures the elders were the ones that were racist and not understanding. Now sometimes some of that passes down to the next generation but it shouldn’t represent the entire group as a whole especially not anymore.
FBA IS A LINEAGE
All blacks all came from Australia Africa
@robluv4592
You dumb as hell
The Original on the North America continent Are FBA
FBA is a term made up by a con man.
@@robluv4592
What the hell are you talking about and what does that have to do with FBA?
@@robluv4592 Let me guess...another non black non fba trying to tell us where we're from and what we are. Dont y'all get it YET?? We dont give af about your definitions, WE define who we are not you.
I liked Cypress Hill better anyway.
@@CensorTube84 you from LA?
@ Nah I grew up in Cleveland
Cuban Link definitely shed light on this topic. Much respect 🗽🤝🏽
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I’m black I agree 100% with this important conversation.
Thanks for the realness.
🫡🫡🫡 appreciate you watching
We liked it big pun anyway 😂
RIP Big Pun 🙏
💯FACTS!! He was the 🔥 of the group. R.I.P. Big Pun. 🕊️🙏🏽
Call it what it is. Get the blacks out the way does not equal together.
Joe was definitely NOT “the wackest” rapper in Terror Squad. He just didn’t compare to Big Pun - But to be fair, NOBODY else did either. 🤣 So now, who else in TS was so much better than Joey? … He was right up there, holding his own w/ the rest of them (Linx, etc) … Again, PUN was ahead of ALL OF THEM.
He didn’t write his own stuff. They all helped write for him and coached him on the more complex flows and rhymes he didn’t have prior to then.
@ IDK if that’s true (it MIGHT be) but then ask yourself this … IF* everyone wrote for him, then WHEN did he start writing for himself? 🤔 Like what Album did Joe START writing his own stuff? 🤔 AND why is it that Joe became a BETTER rapper later in his career than he was back then? 🤔 (he just found talent suddenly when he left them guys? 🤣 Makes NO sense) He started writing HITS all by himself, LATER in life. That’s crazy to even believe.
Was Fat Joe wrong for his FBA comments?
Wrong
hell yeah he was wrong
@@stoggie180 let the record reflect you are Latino and you think he was wrong
It's a money grab. One way or the other Fat Joe will keep himself relevant. He wants his album paid attention too. We have to unconfuse the confused
Disrespectful
Mexican and Spanish been seeing us this way
FBA ✊️ 😎 🇺🇸
then its time to flex muscle and cancel him across the board. imagine that one continental african voice just a tiny critic and y'all have smoke for days. but this fat dude , naaaaah,
Im scared of dudes who inhale cigarette smoke & never exhale 😲
😂😂😂
I noticed that too 😂😂😂
None of these clowns are Spanish lol.
East Coast people are corny for calling Latinos "Spanish"
Real Lokono Arawak Indian Puerto Ricans do not claim Fat Joe Chinese & Spaniard white PR ass !!!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
How is he Chinese?
Huh
That’s some funny ish 😂
Lol you a 🤡
What the fuck are you talking about you stupid bitch? Fat Joe obviously African, way more African looking than you are to be exact.
Shout out to Cuban link very underrated MC
💯💯💯
Y'all letting these men play in y'all faces.😆
Man from Cali and I love Cuban link flow and style ! Wish him the absolute best .
🫡🫡🫡 Cuban a good dude
No blacks are racist towards Puerto Ricans 😂😂😂😂😂
Do you know every single one to ever exist to say that?
Yet, the white man said Puerto Rico was floating garbage, you let him get a free ride for that and targeted black people
😝 Don't get offended, bro. Puerto Ricans are racist asf too. Only the few will change the world. I hope you're not delusional.
@@pandachopnewsI'm a New York South Bronx native. They always stayed to themselves. We never talked bad about them even in private. Everyone is prejudice and racist against us.....
That's a fact. The nice guy finishes last. We've been nice to everyone......damn that..
Fat Joe & Cuban Link need to have a conversation to squash it once & for all
Never gonna happen cuz Joe will never admit to his faults
@@GroveSt.B-LO Joe is responsible for Cuban Link getting his face sliced open at Jimmy’s Bronx Cafe. I doubt if that’s ever gonna happen
Some ricans are African descendants and endured the same struggles
Marine Officer Here. Forget Fat Joey. FBA’s got the best gift ever, Kamala’s Loss. Joey and his kind are still Butt hurt over that. All their dreams are crushed. Joey’s last hit was the 2004 single "Lean Back", 20 years ago! Hip-Hop is 51 years old, Fat Joey is 54. How is he an originator?
I missed that. When did Joe say he was the/an originator of Hip Hop?
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Joe was only a fat 3 year old baby boy when hip-hop started. He not the pappy of hiphop those are big shoes to fill.
@@zartan215 I don’t remember him saying he was an originator either but he said Puerto Ricans were
@@pandachopnews Right. There's a difference.
We loved n respected Big Pun. When Big Pun passed this crushed the hip hop community ,. His voice was magic and we waited for anything Big Pun did. No one really knew Fat Joe an didn't care , Big Pun was our Fav he is so missed ,
Well I think they knew him but he wasn’t respected on the level of Pun. Pun was a rappers rapper. Joe did contribute to his career BUT Pun contributed to Joe’s legacy.
Cuban is my brother. He always speaks the truth and is very transparent. My Guy stay solid.
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That’s a fact 💯
Cuban Linx with the chess move lol
What chess move?
If this is even a question about chess and what moves are...then you don't know chess... stick the checkers... your mind is not there....My nine year-old son is more advanced than you...🥴😬
@@modernnostalgic551Why are you hating tho?😂
Spanish ppl always try to say " we all do it" when they say racist shyt 10:25
So you don’t think all races do it?
@@pandachopnews us black americans never say racist things about hispanics behind closed doors , all races dont do it because we dont do it , but when hispanics or whites or chinese do it or hear they family doing it towards us , they use that same excuse
I always rocked with Cuban Link, but i swear fam is giving off mob boss energy. Salute! Fly Pelican Fly!
😂😂😂 is it the haircut?
@ its the haircut, the shirt, the posture 😂. But he’s always been like that, I salute it
😂😂😂🫡🫡🫡
Even Konnan the wrestler said Fat Joe was asking him why he was hanging out with Rey Mysterio cause Rey was Mexican. So I guess Joe felt a certain way about Mexicans too. Joe also said himself is own Mom's questioned why he was doing hip hop as a white looking Latino, although Joe admits as a Rican he has African/Black ancestry. Not to mention Liza Pun's wife is Black/Afro Rican, so that means Pun's children are part Black too. So if Joe really don't like Black folk that would be crazy.
Where did Konnan say that? Do you have a link? What interview did Joe say that about his mom?
Fat Joe production was on point but his lyrics were struggle-rap.
But he didn’t even write the rhymes
@@pandachopnews Whoever wrote his rhymes were writing garbage, but his beats are what sold.
@ from what album? You saying Don Cartagena when Pun was writing his rhymes was garbage? Represent King Sun was writing.
@@pandachopnews Pun had delivery and Joe didn’t.
@@miami-blac I mean we could never truly compare the two but Joe’s legacy is because of Pun saving him
He’s the wrong person, and trust me there is no WE until they need US for something 💯Stay WOKE👍🏾
Idk why folks think blacks can be racist it takes power to be racist we can be prejudice know the real definition of racist and not Webster yt man definition
Exactly..well said..I've been saying this for years..racism is a system..you have to have power to be racist..
Last time I checked, PuertoRicans have 21% of African in us..
All Puerto Ricans have exactly 21%? I don’t think genetics works like that but yes Puerto Ricans have African blood through the slave trade. I just think Joe could have phrased things better
So do Asians.. but the hierarchy of race does exist. 🙄
Yes but yaw not like us every body in the world got African in them but FBA we them niggaz yaw follow us
FAT HOE IS A EUROPEAN RICAN. HIS EYES, HIS PALE SKIN. HE AINT A GOOD REPRESENTITIVE OF SO-CALLED "BROWN PEOPLE".
Lmaoooooo 21 exact percent 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
No Cuban, everyone is not racist when they're with their own. That says everything about how you think and I feel sorry for you too.
So you never make racist jokes?
Hell no!!!!@@pandachopnews
@@pandachopnewsNo.
Cuban link keeps it 💯
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Fat Joe BEEN showing those who's been watching this hip hop shit, who he is.
But has he showed racist tendencies or just that he’s not a good dude?
@pandachopnews on top of there being tendencies, in regards to the public things he'd say, this is solely my opinion. But being racist doesn't subject you to being a bad individual. Just means that you're misinformed. You can be racist and not be a racist. Racism is a behavior. However, to dwell further in depth into whether or not he's a bad or good individual, I'd have to have known him his whole life, and I don't know him more than what he puts on to be in front of cameras.
For the record Cuban is on video flat out saying “I’m Black Too”. It was during the bang bang boogie era. The interviewer asked him about being in a group with black dudes & he said that without hesitation. He didn’t front & wasn’t pandering for the camera. I always saluted him for saying that on camera. If you really listen to Cubans verses he lets you know he grew up in black culture. He always puts something in there to let you know he’s official about the black dna he has. If you listen to his verse on “Tell Me” he begins his flow in the cadence of “don’t look any further” by Dennis Edwards. A lot of people didn’t catch that. If you notice he keeps making a clear distinction between the Afro-Latinos (me, pun & seis) in the crew & Joe.
Well Cubans have African blood through the slave trade so he knows that but he also respects that black people may feel a way about Latinos in NY saying the N word even though that’s the culture
@@pandachopnewsI’m stating this because some people may think Cuban is fronting. I know he’s not. I also grew up in Old School NY…so I already know what time it is with latin’s and that word. Secondly my dad is Black/Dominican & My Mom is Black/Puerto Rican. I’m well versed on all 3 cultures & heritage. Him being Cuban is a formality being that it’s just another stop on the voyage.
@@pandachopnews what I would argue tho is that I feel like u have more cubans and puerto ricans (not dominicans) acknowledging their african blood than black americans. Some blackamericans do but not all of them. Blackamericans don't walk around talkin about their african rythm and culture heritage. But at the same time in the US africans were not allowed to practice african rythm compared to africans deported in brazil and in other parts of central and south america. That's why cubans for instance have a very african rythmic music compared to blackamerican music. The one who really brought african rythm in his music is James Brown in the 1970's especially. Singers of the motown for instance were doing music that white people could relate 2.
@@lorenzbeaumacc1175black Americans don’t have to acknowledge something that blatant. Motown never marketed their artists to white Americans or their audience. I don’t know why you would even suggest that…let alone say it. Motown was always the epitome of black music. Just because they didn’t scream I’m black and I’m proud on every record doesn’t mean they sang music that was only digestible for a yt audience. Every African instrument that was played in Brazil, cuba & any other melanated place…was played by African Americans as well. Your “opinion” is very misguided and not factual. No one would ever say James was the “only” anything. I would suggest you do the knowledge on the last poets & Gil Scott Heron and people like that to see of James was the “only”…lol. It was many before and after James.
@@lorenzbeaumacc1175most
Black Americans don’t have African ancestry. You sound ignorant. There’s something called genealogy. Black Americans don’t have any connection to Africa. Less than 400,000 Africans were brought to the American soil. We were already here and were enslaved here. Africans went by the millions to the islands and South America. They are Afro because they have actual African ancestry. We aren’t African here my guy. Africans don’t have the inventions we have, music genres and law. We’re a unique/special people to be honest. Those that left Europe and those indigenous to the soil mixed to create a new ethnic group. We’re the Americans.
Panda chop & Trenches news are the only ones who keep their identity safe. Respect that. 💪🏾🎯😎
🫡🫡🫡 appreciate the support. What you think about this topic?
@pandachopnews I think fat joe bka the beluga whale has been racist behind closed doors. I'm black, and not 1 time have I sat at a dinner table with other black people and they are speaking a bunch of racist shit. Never happened to me.
Growing up seeing rakim, big daddy cane 2pac nwa snoop ect there wasn’t any Puerto Ricans rappers like that they supported danced ect we grew up together but fat joe definitely on 2 something wrong but I got love for the whole hood especially big pun 💯
I always liked Cuban Link, get yours king!
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He don’t even speak Spanish he a fraud…50 Cent Elephant in the Sand 😂😂😂
💯💯💯💯💯 lmfao, facts. He spews out a few slangs and words in Spanish but ultimately he don't speak Espanol. 🤬🤡😭😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@antsimm1022 people roasted him for that interview he did in Spanish
Do blacks speak African?
@@chasemanhattan3957 We had Spanish and French in high school but I don’t remember African language classes. What country in Africa are you speaking of?
@@chasemanhattan3957 depends on which blacks you're talking about because blacks are all over from Latin America to Australia, etc. Spanish is the language force on Hispanics unless they are from Spain itself and are unmixed white people. Africa or African isn't a language, it is a continent full of languages.
He said it like his culture is the foundation of HipHop.
He has said he views himself as black too
Cuban Link is a real one. We had no problems with our Puerto Rican brothers. I lived around and worked with some cool PR dudes who had my back. It is disheartening to see some Puerto Ricans turn on us because we want to keep the history accurate. We are not taking anything away from what the Puerto Rican brothers did when they did it.
Do you really think all of them are doing that or a small group with Fat Joe leading the charge?
There is a small group that has this agenda of connecting themselves with the start of what became known as hip hop. One of the main people is Derrick Colon. He interviewed several PR B Boys from back in the day who told him on camera that it started with Black folks but he doesn’t want to hear the truth. He is obsessed as if to say that “y’all can’t have that distinction” no matter what the facts are. Joe butt crack was only 3 years old in 1973 he should sit down shut up and learn the true history. They are being very disrespectful.
Cuban link was so dope, I wish we could turn the clocks back and have him create the album we knew he could. He verse on M.O.B was 🔥
He’s a good dude 💯
All the shit this dude been talking about fat joe. As soon as joe in some trouble with FBAS you see how they get on code with each other and start protecting him in a sense. Makes me ask myself? R FBA people the most Invidious people on the planet?
Did you not watch the whole clip? He said he’s seen Joe say some racist stuff about black people.
8:47 no we not!!!
How Did WE Get Stuck Between A Puerto Rock and A Hard Place?
I'm older enough to remember Fat Joe came into the game as a Latin King leader. In those days there was Major beef between the Kings against Many black gangs around the East Coast. I'm not surprised. I've never forgotten
Joe was never a Latin king. He had beef with the Latin kings at one point. Watch this interview clip i did. Cano Almighty Talks Fat Joe Vs Latin Kings & Frankie Cutlass [Part 17]
ruclips.net/video/7Wob_EhT1Po/видео.html
@pandachopnews being in CT and growing up around P R an Dominicans. Around the time between 91-94 this was the talk. Now maybe at some point he had fallen out. However he was rocking the beads.
Didn't Lord Finesse help joe get on?
Not sure if it was Lord Finesse exactly but DITC so yes black people put him on
It was diamond d
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Joe always hungout with Black folks. He loves Black people. He just doesn't like FBA. 💩 I don't even like FBA 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Yes he did! Also Andre the Giant from Patterson Projects in the BX . Sad to hear! The whole DITC thing. Just remember who was the DJ who took the two turntables in the Bronx and started the trend of people uniting and getting together forgetting about the ghetto misery for a moment. Hip Hop. DJ Kool Herc ! 1520 Sedgwick Avenue Bronx NY. Son of Jamaican immigrants! I say less ! Black folk started and created HipHop just like Rock and Roll!!
Forget fat joe bro make a difference yourself drop a song make a podcast make a hit you got talent brother but forget fat Joe already brother
It would be crazy if a white rapper was talking racist but fat Joe is like an uncle or a cousin
We waiting on the day Cuban gets busy with more Music or podcasts!
Cuba when you gonna start your own podcast and put your music out through your podcast, we tune in we love you, bro we behind you start doing your own thing, bro you’re talented. You’re funny you have charisma. Let’s go, brother.!
@@Eli.p79 I tell him all the time he should do his own podcast. He is very funny
Taino, African, and European..
Puerto Ricans
WTH? Tell Joe to do an ancestry test. Claiming your colonization opposed to your actual DNA is crazy. Joe has some homework to do.
So many ethnicities hate black people but mock everything we created 🙄DIS man was wit DAT shyt too and it's Ricans and Dominicans blacker then us PPL are crazy🤦🏾♀️🇭🇹💯
One love to Cuban and Panda 💯💯💯💯percent respect 🫡
🫡🫡🫡 appreciate you bro
My mother and grandmother calls me moreno…🇵🇷👨🏿🌾🇵🇷👨🏿🌾🇵🇷👨🏿🌾
Yeah but the engineer actually said Joe said moyo and not Moreno and that has another stigma
In the Spanish community Moreno and morena are terms of endearment…
But the engineer says Joe said “moyo” not Moreno so that’s a different meaning
Ok but if the black guy said its racist, who am i to believe?
My son Cuban could’ve railroaded him but he just spoke how he truly felt so I respect this whole shit
💯💯💯 he said those speeches were more like pep talks from a coach at half time BUT he still said he’s witnessed Joe tell racist stories so he just kept it real
People love to create division, and take what others say out of context.
What is Joe really saying then? To me one of the biggest issues was HOW he said it
@ I’m not saying it’s wrong, but let the approach be different instead of creating discord amongst others.
Is this guy going to spend the rest of his days talking about Fat Joe? His energy could be much better spent.
I always thought Cuban Link and Pun were way better than Joe Joe only started rapping first but he was outdone
He always had a ghostwriter his main thing was being a good hustler and business man.
@@pandachopnews Fat Joe should forever pay homage to Pun and his family that is what a grateful cheerful person does
@@joseromero9933 I think that’s all anyone really wanted.