Calling men "closeted" in this period is very inappropriate. The concept closeted can only exist in modern terms; there is an option now to live openly whereas back then there was not. The history of Molly houses are intrinsically tied to LGBTQ historyso there's nothing in this video that's misleading. Regardless of what class you were from, Molly houses were the only relative safe places to be openly homosexual.
I remember as a kid being totally confused by the line in the song Yankee Doodle, “...stuck a feather in his hat and called him Macaroni.” No matter how many adults I ask, none of them could explain it to me. I was in my 30’s before I discovered what that really meant.
For those still confused, macaroni was a term for flamboyant accessories, such as stick on moles, objects in hair/hat (as in "...feather in his hat") and other fashion trends.
The title is misleading. It should be called "what it was like to be labeled as a sex worker when you're just a gay man in the 18th century". The molly houses weren't brothels, they were "safe places". I heard no money exchange in this video. Another thing: you show Thomas Wright the astronomer who would have been only 15 years old in 1726, and who also died in 1786, so you got the wrong Thomas Wright up there. This one you're talking about was hanged in May 1726, shortly after the trial in April. Probably should correct that for historical accuracy.
I like Weird History, but kind of disingenuous to call the men who frequented 'Molly Houses" LGBTQ. They were men. Are we not allowed to say gay men anymore?
@@bradrose15 Cuz they weren't acknowledged at the time...& it wasn't as easily prosecutable crime...."buggery" was on the books (in-law/illegal) while "L", as such, was not....i.e. less threatening to men...but yeah, still a difficult life, just not deemed as "worthy of death" by men & their weird fear of other penises...the irony....cuz, well, anyways...✋😂
No, no it would not at all! “Drag queens“ back during those times were men dressed up as women because women were not allowed to be in theatre. Had there ever been such a breakdown in society in the 18th century, there would’ve been a lot of heads rolling down Tower hill, and the better the world would have been for it.
@@laurasmith14 you need to google princess Seraphina from the 1700’s. The drag you’re referring too was in 1500’s during Shakespeare’s time. By then 1600’s women were permitted in theater. Also, gay men’s heads didn’t “roll” they were hanged after psycho king Henry 8th banned men being together. Tf you talking about the world being a better place for it, the first recorded homosexual was 2400 bc. They’ve always been around. The world would be better if your head rolled down Tower Hill.
Believe it or not, there are plenty of living history events focused around representing Molly houses in the greater anglosphere! Not only does it include lgbtq, drag, and sex worker history, but typically other counterculture history such as underground fighting rings, gambling, subversive art and theater etc.
THIS honestly. I do Victorian/Old West, Edwardian, and Onnagata/Oyama drag. I really want to see this as a popular thing. Kept classy, historical, and realistic of course.
Man, that's something. It's like what happened at Stonewall Inn. People snitched, went to jail, and sentenced to death. Except Stonewall, no one was sentenced to death. First time hearing about something like this.
@Gisele Matthews not surprised that you would misunderstand stand completely and then get mad at the commenter. It’s the norm nowadays for certain people.
seeing Aziraphale and Crowley fanart in this made me laugh cause the moment molly houses were mentioned I immediately thought of Azira doing the gavotte.
As a history professor, I love this channel and subscribe, but please find images that relate to the period in the script. Having a banner say 1720s on top of a series of images from the late 19th and even 20th centuries is pretty jarring. There are great images in the public domain that better correlate to the content.
I am no history professor, but I wonder that u haven’t stumbled over the many many inaccuracies, that occur again and again in ,,Weird History’s“ videos… especially as a fan of this channel…
Professor, most pictures are subject to copyright laws. I suspect they are using pictures available on public domain, or otherwise free of charge, or for a nominal fee. If they had a phenomenal or bloated budget, I feel certain they would upload the finest and most accurate pictures they could find. The banners are used to 'indicate' the era they are speaking of while the pictures are used to 'represent' that era. Generally speaking, this channel is made for children. I believe the viewers understand the story. The inquisitive mind would conduct their own research to verify anything published on RUclips, particularly college students. I hope this information will help to ease your mind. PS But then again, since you already know the aforementioned, maybe you should download the pictures you spoke of and send them to WH. Wouldn't they be delighted! Everybody's a critic.
When I clicked on this video I didn’t expect it to be about LGBT history but I’m so pleasantly surprised. It makes sense though, gay people have existed everywhere for a very long time, it’s just not usually talked about. Our history has been erased and covered up for hundreds of years. It’s so refreshing to actually be seen. This is a very important and very interesting video. I love history, especially queer history. Thank you.
Society has certainly changed a lot but not enough, as evident in some of these comments. Plus gay men are generally more accepted than transgender people.
@@dinosaurasher because weirdos don’t use the concept of homosexuality to pretend to be women to beat them at sports competitions or enter women’s bathrooms and than get protected by any criticism because “muh Transphobia!!!”
@@Hiphop618 you straight up comment nothing but rude and arguably sexist things on this channel. get a life other than commenting on videos you evidently don’t enjoy watching 🤦🏼♀️
I'd also love to learn more about indigenous peoples from all over! Australian Aboriginal people especially, there's so little understanding about their culture
Loved this video, but the title is totally inaccurate. This has almost nothing to do with sex workers, and everything to do with gay men, most of whom - it sounds like - were not sex workers.
@@alexiscaldera3793 Yeah, but it didn't sound like THESE men were sex workers though. Kind of sounded like they just wanted a safe space to hang out and were falsely labeled as sex workers. At least, that's what this video makes it sound like
I love this channel. Although, I think the title of this video should be changed. Molly houses were only 1/100th of the sex work in London during this period. Why not call the video what is is? It is a video about the lgbtq community in London, not just sex work.
Don’t u mean the LBG community... the T and Q etc have nothing what’s so ever to do with the homosexually ... as a gay man I am sick to the back teeth of being associated with the T and Q...
You mentioned "certain areas/streets of London that were popular for 'cruising'" and my brain spontaneously kicked up a chorus of "West End Girls" by the Pet Shop Boys. This was a stellar upload (as most Weird History videos are!)--thanks for bringing such quality and education to our 'entertainment.' :)
That would be ahistorical. "Gay" is a modern concept. Particular acts were described, and people committed those acts--but were not categorized as being . Except maybe Sodomites--though engaging in sodomitical behavior was not seen as an intrinsic status.
Dude after learning what "macaroni" meant back in those days... I started thinking of how during the Revolutionary War, the new Americans would sing "Yankee Doodle" at the Brits (usually after a battle that the British lost at), and I realized "Dude, the founding fathers were talking MAD sht at those guys" 😂 Also the dude in the video that got caught perusing one of those "cruising" alleys (got sentenced to the pillary and then two months in jail) and got caught and used the ol "I was just peeing" excuse 😂 anyone remember that movie "There's Something About Mary"? There's a part where Ben Stiller is driving on the interstate at night and sees a trucker rest stop and he pulls over to get down bc he has to pee, but it's dark out and there's no city lights, so he trips while walking to the restroom and realizes he tripped on a man on the ground and one other random man says something like "watch where you're going" or whatever, and then Stiller tries to get up and walk and he like accidentally finds another guy on the ground, and then these bright ass police lights come on, and there's TONS of dudes out there on the ground having a secret orgy and the cops arrest Stiller bc they assume he's one of them, and he ends up on the news and people he knows see his face on the scene and the reporters say it's a secret meeting place where men do strange stuff, and the whole time the cops are detaining Ben Stiller, he's shouting "I JUST HAD TO PEE!" And all the other boys out there start stealing his (real) excuse saying "Oh right! Yeah! Uh, I was just peeing too!" 😂 1698, 1998, sonethings never change lol
How did a boy or a man know about molly houses in the first place? Coming outs are difficult today but I can't imagine how it was for a young person to realise that they were "different" from society, have nobody to talk to out of fear of punishment and than eventually find out about the molly houses and underground LGBTQ community.
Open secrets, I wager. Also, you may have confessed to "that weird guy down the block, who is a total molly!" Likely, there was also a bit of grooming going on...
What I'm about to mention is mostly based on how these things were in the Victorian Era, but I'm sure plenty of it was more or less the same a century prior since Molly Houses were still a thing in Victorian times, and homosexuality was still punished by the law (even after the death penalty for this type of "crime" was abolished) Back then, gay men had "secret gay codes" they implemented to their everyday life. You see how the average male fashion tended to be mostly sober and sometimes "dull" in colors and whatnot? Well, gay men (those who were more open or were looking for a partner or for more people "like them") used that to their advantage and would usually add some colorful accessories to their outfits. Think of adding a colorful feather on their hats, a bright tie, or even a colorful flower pinned to their lapels, and so on. Gay men would also use other forms of "secret communication", such as growing their hair long and keeping their faces as cleanly shaven as possible, as these two things were considered "feminine" by the standards of the time and thus were unacceptable for a man to sport (and, basically, an "open secret" to everyone, taking advantage of the fact that speaking openly about homosexuality was taboo and pretty much no one wanted to get caught even talking about such a "indecent" thing). Green color was also associated with homosexuality as, reportedly, it was deemed to be an "unnatural" color and, thus, the gay men of the time adopted it in a tongue in cheek way since they were also labelled as "unnatural" by society due to their orientation. In addition, they also used their own "coded language": Polari, which was slang/cant that was most commonly used by specific groups, most largely used by gay men. Using Polari, they could even exchange words between them in public without most people knowing what they were actually saying, with the advantage of pretending they were speaking some foreign language if they got caught. And, like someone else pointed out, open secrets, too! Most of the people who knew about Molly Houses learned about them from other gay men who already knew the place or the owner of said place. The same thing happened with gay men themselves, as all the "codes" I mentioned above were meant for them to easily spot each other out from unsuspecting "regular people" without putting them or their safety at risk.
@Jon Well, first of all: ancient Greek, Roman, and Spartan societies weren't widely accepting of homosexuality. However, since you think the Roman Legions would still be marching today if not for those "darn dirty gehys", then it's obvious you have never opened a book in your life.
Thank you so much for examining our gay history. I would love to see a tv series made out of this. 3 years later we are not far off our 17th wedding anniversary. How things have changed (here in New Zealand anyway).
It's not a whole series but alit of the clips in this video was used from Tom Hardy's Taboo. Very good and super weird show. That's where I learned about Molly Houses.
4 minutes in and not ONE single bit of background on "Sex Workers". This video was mis-titled. It should be called "What it was like to be LGBT+ in 18th Century London" or instead of LGBT+ use Molly Boys. Since it is only about cross dressing and gay men. Not even about them being sex workers. Just that they had trouble being a gay man or a cross dresser or cross dressing gay man. Nothing about Sex Workers
Not only is Weird History some of the *best researched* and *most accurate* history content on RUclips, it's *wildly entertaining AND incredibly respectful* to boot!! I was honestly overflowing with joy and pride when the narrator spoke about "Princess Seraphina" (who specifically presented as a woman even in her life outside the Molly houses) by using feminine pronouns! It's brave people like her who paved the way for the rights of the LGBT+ community today-- I can't even imagine her struggle to simply exist in 18th century England-- and I *love* Weird History for talking about her with the respect and dignity she deserves ❤️
This video is poorly done. The picture they use for Thomas Newton is in fact a man of that name, but not the one they are talking about. They used a Bishop's picture.
This reminds me of the show Harlots. They mention molly boys & there's a house with them too. It would be cool if the producers of Harlots could make a male version of their show. Harlots is super entertaining & i think a Molly house spinoff would be just as entertaining.
I’m not sure if you already did the event, but you could do one about the “dance of the 42” this was a gay ball in Mexico during Diaz times and it included high ranking officials
The title of the video doesn’t really match the content here. Early on in the video it’s stated that these houses were much less about sex work and more for LGBTQ men to congregate.
Interesting history but I'm confused by the heading. This wasn't about sexworkers it was about homosexuality and the consequences of such lifestyle in the past. But very informative. Thanks👍
It makes me terribly sad that people could be hanged just for being themselves. It's as awful as being hanged for the color of your skin or religious practices. And we have made progress, but not enough. People should be just that....People. Not black people or gay people...just people. I so enjoy meeting and hearing the stories from every person I am lucky enough to interact with....what's inside is the only factor that really matters.
I only know Molly as an abbreviation for molotov Cocktail. Throw a little Molly through the Windows.. But really interesting how words mean different inother languages.
The title is all wrong. This is not about sex workers at all. It's about closeted gay men.
Right? It's misleading.
Yeah its misleading this should be what are molly house's
@@Thenoobestgirl right.. i wanted to hear and learn about your genders life as working as a sex worker... lol
Yep and the comments were immediately filled with trolls mocking female sex workers as a result
Calling men "closeted" in this period is very inappropriate. The concept closeted can only exist in modern terms; there is an option now to live openly whereas back then there was not. The history of Molly houses are intrinsically tied to LGBTQ historyso there's nothing in this video that's misleading. Regardless of what class you were from, Molly houses were the only relative safe places to be openly homosexual.
I remember as a kid being totally confused by the line in the song Yankee Doodle, “...stuck a feather in his hat and called him Macaroni.” No matter how many adults I ask, none of them could explain it to me. I was in my 30’s before I discovered what that really meant.
I was today years old when I read this comment and found that out. 🤯
I'm confused but want to know the truth, tell me. Please 🙏. Edit : my comment makes me giggle 🤭 I could have just waited but I didn't
it just hit me watching this video and i’m 44
For those still confused, macaroni was a term for flamboyant accessories, such as stick on moles, objects in hair/hat (as in "...feather in his hat") and other fashion trends.
@@paulawendelken2714 Me too! And I had also asked as a child & no one seemed to know.
Love the very subtle Good Omens fan art at 3:31. To be fair, Aziraphale and Crowley definitely would’ve visited a Molly house.
i didn’t even notice until i read this!!!
I saw that art!! Lol they definitely would!
I saw that and started wheezing so hard I couldn’t breathe I love it so much
@@Terzos-olive-oil same!! I did a double take!
@@QueenCole89 same!!!!
Came here for the Good Omens reference but stayed for the history
Just casually including Good Omens fanart to this, love it🤭
The title is misleading. It should be called "what it was like to be labeled as a sex worker when you're just a gay man in the 18th century". The molly houses weren't brothels, they were "safe places". I heard no money exchange in this video.
Another thing: you show Thomas Wright the astronomer who would have been only 15 years old in 1726, and who also died in 1786, so you got the wrong Thomas Wright up there. This one you're talking about was hanged in May 1726, shortly after the trial in April. Probably should correct that for historical accuracy.
I like Weird History, but kind of disingenuous to call the men who frequented 'Molly Houses" LGBTQ. They were men. Are we not allowed to say gay men anymore?
@@zenabby1 specifically I noted that the L and Q of LGBTQ weren’t alluded to very much
Places where men could socialize... Lol
They were fucking too.... Don't be fooled..... Lol
@@zenabby1 I was thinking the exact same thing
@@bradrose15 Cuz they weren't acknowledged at the time...& it wasn't as easily prosecutable crime...."buggery" was on the books (in-law/illegal) while "L", as such, was not....i.e. less threatening to men...but yeah, still a difficult life, just not deemed as "worthy of death" by men & their weird fear of other penises...the irony....cuz, well, anyways...✋😂
Considering what women’s fashions were like during the 1700s it would be interesting to see a drag show from that time period
No, no it would not at all! “Drag queens“ back during those times were men dressed up as women because women were not allowed to be in theatre. Had there ever been such a breakdown in society in the 18th century, there would’ve been a lot of heads rolling down Tower hill, and the better the world would have been for it.
@@laurasmith14 you need to google princess Seraphina from the 1700’s. The drag you’re referring too was in 1500’s during Shakespeare’s time. By then 1600’s women were permitted in theater. Also, gay men’s heads didn’t “roll” they were hanged after psycho king Henry 8th banned men being together. Tf you talking about the world being a better place for it, the first recorded homosexual was 2400 bc. They’ve always been around. The world would be better if your head rolled down Tower Hill.
This idea never occurred to me...now it's on my bucket list. 🥰
Watch Versailles
📷 📷 sus
I love how at 3:34 you just casually included Good Omens fan art 😂
I KNEW it looked familiar. Thats it!
I would love to see an 18th century themed drag show now.
Lol same
Believe it or not, there are plenty of living history events focused around representing Molly houses in the greater anglosphere! Not only does it include lgbtq, drag, and sex worker history, but typically other counterculture history such as underground fighting rings, gambling, subversive art and theater etc.
Me too!! I bet the costumes would be awesome!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️
THIS honestly. I do Victorian/Old West, Edwardian, and Onnagata/Oyama drag. I really want to see this as a popular thing. Kept classy, historical, and realistic of course.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
The Macaroni dressing style... now Yankee Doodle sticking a feather in his cap suddenly makes sense.
I was just thinking of that song when he said it! LoL!! 😄
Yes.
Actaully.
🤯
There is a whole video about it on one of the history channels on RUclips.
Would love to see a video about life as a Japanese Geisha
Yes! And one on wakashu too.
@@FourbooFourboo-sy6oj omg yesss
Man, that's something. It's like what happened at Stonewall Inn. People snitched, went to jail, and sentenced to death. Except Stonewall, no one was sentenced to death. First time hearing about something like this.
You have to frigin kidding me! Same sex sexually has been going on FOREVER!
@@giselematthews7949 I think he meant it’s the first time he’s heard of molly houses.
@Gisele Matthews not surprised that you would misunderstand stand completely and then get mad at the commenter. It’s the norm nowadays for certain people.
@@giselematthews7949 so has bestiality and pedophiles so I don’t know what your point is here.
They’re all wrong and should be completely outlawed
@@NotFckingBen so has curbstomping bigots in front of their children so they grow up to know better. not in favor of outlawing that, though.
seeing Aziraphale and Crowley fanart in this made me laugh cause the moment molly houses were mentioned I immediately thought of Azira doing the gavotte.
I saw it too and I had to pause and laugh for a sec.
Yes, in his "gentlemen's club" heehee
I dont even watch the show and I recognized it right away.
I thought of Harlots
HDHSJSYHSBS YES!
NO FUCMING WAY THEY PUT AZIRACROW FANART IN THIS IM DYINF
Who the fuck is he? Why should I care?
As a history professor, I love this channel and subscribe, but please find images that relate to the period in the script. Having a banner say 1720s on top of a series of images from the late 19th and even 20th centuries is pretty jarring. There are great images in the public domain that better correlate to the content.
I mean he just using examples for what hes talking about
Get over yourself they obviously use images that are available, acceptable or what ever on RUclips. Stuffed shirt or what.
I am no history professor, but I wonder that u haven’t stumbled over the many many inaccuracies, that occur again and again in ,,Weird History’s“ videos… especially as a fan of this channel…
Professor, most pictures are subject to copyright laws. I suspect they are using pictures available on public domain, or otherwise free of charge, or for a nominal fee. If they had a phenomenal or bloated budget, I feel certain they would upload the finest and most accurate pictures they could find.
The banners are used to 'indicate' the era they are speaking of while the pictures are used to 'represent' that era.
Generally speaking, this channel is made for children. I believe the viewers understand the story. The inquisitive mind would conduct their own research to verify anything published on RUclips, particularly college students.
I hope this information will help to ease your mind.
PS But then again, since you already know the aforementioned, maybe you should download the pictures you spoke of and send them to WH. Wouldn't they be delighted! Everybody's a critic.
Agreed. Might as well be a podcast with glaringly inaccurate photos.
THE AZIRACROW FANART IM FUCKING DYING AHHAHAHA
NOT CROWLEY AND AZIRAPHALE [ 3:34 ] LMAOOO
Interesting video, but is it just me or is the title a bit on the confusingly inaccurate side?
Yep
Should be more like „how it was being LGBTQ in the 18th century“
yeah this is clickbait.
The title is still in the closet!!
ASKHSFHAJDJ BLUD DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS A FANART AT ALL😭😭😭
THE GOOD OMENS FANART OH MY GOD
The title of the video needs to be changed, it's misleading and not at all what the content of this video is about.
When I clicked on this video I didn’t expect it to be about LGBT history but I’m so pleasantly surprised. It makes sense though, gay people have existed everywhere for a very long time, it’s just not usually talked about. Our history has been erased and covered up for hundreds of years. It’s so refreshing to actually be seen. This is a very important and very interesting video. I love history, especially queer history. Thank you.
Society has certainly changed a lot but not enough, as evident in some of these comments. Plus gay men are generally more accepted than transgender people.
@@dinosaurasher because weirdos don’t use the concept of homosexuality to pretend to be women to beat them at sports competitions or enter women’s bathrooms and than get protected by any criticism because “muh Transphobia!!!”
@@Hiphop618 you straight up comment nothing but rude and arguably sexist things on this channel. get a life other than commenting on videos you evidently don’t enjoy watching 🤦🏼♀️
@@Hiphop618 Trans people have also existed for hundreds of years, and gender identity is separate from sexuality. You’re part of the problem.
I totally agree
Weird History, please do more about African history both post and pre colonialism.
I'd also love to learn more about indigenous peoples from all over! Australian Aboriginal people especially, there's so little understanding about their culture
Funny how they liked so many other comment suggestions except this one 🤔🥴
I wouldn't mind some weird history about Shaka Zulu.
@@tatum635 HAHA
well then that would be too weird for white people UGH
This was amazingly well researched! Thank you for taking a fare and even hand at the history!
Loved this video, but the title is totally inaccurate. This has almost nothing to do with sex workers, and everything to do with gay men, most of whom - it sounds like - were not sex workers.
Sex workers aren’t just women, but people of all genders. Sex work history and lgbt+ history have been intertwined for hundreds of years.
@@alexiscaldera3793 Yeah, but it didn't sound like THESE men were sex workers though. Kind of sounded like they just wanted a safe space to hang out and were falsely labeled as sex workers. At least, that's what this video makes it sound like
3:30 just casually slipping in Good Omens shipping art into this history video
Aziracrow? In a video about being a sex worker in 18th century London? We need that minisode now
Lots of gay people in coffee houses?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
LOL! Nice One!
I love this channel. Although, I think the title of this video should be changed. Molly houses were only 1/100th of the sex work in London during this period. Why not call the video what is is? It is a video about the lgbtq community in London, not just sex work.
Don’t u mean the LBG community... the T and Q etc have nothing what’s so ever to do with the homosexually ... as a gay man I am sick to the back teeth of being associated with the T and Q...
You mentioned "certain areas/streets of London that were popular for 'cruising'" and my brain spontaneously kicked up a chorus of "West End Girls" by the Pet Shop Boys.
This was a stellar upload (as most Weird History videos are!)--thanks for bringing such quality and education to our 'entertainment.' :)
@ 3:30 it's Aziraphale and Crowley from Good Omens i 😭😭
Who the fuck is he? Why should I care?
“Good golly, Miss Molly, we sure had a ball!”
Hmm, not so subtle.
First thing I thought too
🤔😯😬🚶🏾♀️
i hope that the artist of Crowley and Aziraphale's fanart at 3:31 is doing well and the rest of the Good Omens fandom watching this dheuyhbrbgbrfhb
No need to keep copy pasting the same dumbshit comment. You're not special.
i hope they got credited
I think this should have been titled what it was like to be gay in the 17th century
That would be ahistorical. "Gay" is a modern concept. Particular acts were described, and people committed those acts--but were not categorized as being . Except maybe Sodomites--though engaging in sodomitical behavior was not seen as an intrinsic status.
I’m loving the historical fanart depicting a show that aired in 2017 🤣🤣🤣
😇😈
Congrats buddy, you summoned the good omens Fandom lmao
Cool video btw ✨✨
the good omens fanart LMAO
Dude after learning what "macaroni" meant back in those days... I started thinking of how during the Revolutionary War, the new Americans would sing "Yankee Doodle" at the Brits (usually after a battle that the British lost at), and I realized
"Dude, the founding fathers were talking MAD sht at those guys" 😂
Also the dude in the video that got caught perusing one of those "cruising" alleys (got sentenced to the pillary and then two months in jail) and got caught and used the ol "I was just peeing" excuse 😂 anyone remember that movie
"There's Something About Mary"? There's a part where Ben Stiller is driving on the interstate at night and sees a trucker rest stop and he pulls over to get down bc he has to pee, but it's dark out and there's no city lights, so he trips while walking to the restroom and realizes he tripped on a man on the ground and one other random man says something like "watch where you're going" or whatever, and then Stiller tries to get up and walk and he like accidentally finds another guy on the ground, and then these bright ass police lights come on, and there's TONS of dudes out there on the ground having a secret orgy and the cops arrest Stiller bc they assume he's one of them, and he ends up on the news and people he knows see his face on the scene and the reporters say it's a secret meeting place where men do strange stuff, and the whole time the cops are detaining Ben Stiller, he's shouting
"I JUST HAD TO PEE!"
And all the other boys out there start stealing his (real) excuse saying
"Oh right! Yeah! Uh, I was just peeing too!"
😂 1698, 1998, sonethings never change lol
It was actually the opposite. The song was written to mock Americans as crude bimbos/himbos.
I just asked this! I’m glad I found your comment!
You almost got it right, but A for enthusiasm!
I loved that "Something About Mary" movie! Wish I could find it to watch again.
😂😂
Bruh the notification was so bizarre i had to click😂😂😂
Love the channel as always great video
Aziracrow easteregg lol
Aziraphale and crowley from the Good Omens series at 3:30 😂
It’s the Crowley and Aziraphale fanart at 3:32 for me 😍😍😍
Title is kinda misleading, but really informative and insightful either way
maybe it was an attempt to straight-bait the people who would otherwise have not clicked on this vid
03:30 LMAO GOOD OMENS?!
These vids are great. Learn so much and the content is fascinating. Love the Wild West ones.
Wait, Princess Seraphina? Today I learned I share a name with an 18th century drag queen. I've never felt so seen in all my life.
How did a boy or a man know about molly houses in the first place? Coming outs are difficult today but I can't imagine how it was for a young person to realise that they were "different" from society, have nobody to talk to out of fear of punishment and than eventually find out about the molly houses and underground LGBTQ community.
probably took some serious gaydar
Open secrets, I wager. Also, you may have confessed to "that weird guy down the block, who is a total molly!" Likely, there was also a bit of grooming going on...
What I'm about to mention is mostly based on how these things were in the Victorian Era, but I'm sure plenty of it was more or less the same a century prior since Molly Houses were still a thing in Victorian times, and homosexuality was still punished by the law (even after the death penalty for this type of "crime" was abolished)
Back then, gay men had "secret gay codes" they implemented to their everyday life. You see how the average male fashion tended to be mostly sober and sometimes "dull" in colors and whatnot? Well, gay men (those who were more open or were looking for a partner or for more people "like them") used that to their advantage and would usually add some colorful accessories to their outfits. Think of adding a colorful feather on their hats, a bright tie, or even a colorful flower pinned to their lapels, and so on. Gay men would also use other forms of "secret communication", such as growing their hair long and keeping their faces as cleanly shaven as possible, as these two things were considered "feminine" by the standards of the time and thus were unacceptable for a man to sport (and, basically, an "open secret" to everyone, taking advantage of the fact that speaking openly about homosexuality was taboo and pretty much no one wanted to get caught even talking about such a "indecent" thing).
Green color was also associated with homosexuality as, reportedly, it was deemed to be an "unnatural" color and, thus, the gay men of the time adopted it in a tongue in cheek way since they were also labelled as "unnatural" by society due to their orientation.
In addition, they also used their own "coded language": Polari, which was slang/cant that was most commonly used by specific groups, most largely used by gay men. Using Polari, they could even exchange words between them in public without most people knowing what they were actually saying, with the advantage of pretending they were speaking some foreign language if they got caught.
And, like someone else pointed out, open secrets, too! Most of the people who knew about Molly Houses learned about them from other gay men who already knew the place or the owner of said place. The same thing happened with gay men themselves, as all the "codes" I mentioned above were meant for them to easily spot each other out from unsuspecting "regular people" without putting them or their safety at risk.
Fascinating and so tragic. Just let people live as they wish if they don't harm anyone.
@Jon agreed!
@Jon I'm just going to use the Socratic method and ask: How does it harm society?
@Jon Why do they matter?
@Jon Well, first of all: ancient Greek, Roman, and Spartan societies weren't widely accepting of homosexuality. However, since you think the Roman Legions would still be marching today if not for those "darn dirty gehys", then it's obvious you have never opened a book in your life.
@Jon Okay grandpa go back to bed this isn't the 1800s
Thank you so much for examining our gay history. I would love to see a tv series made out of this. 3 years later we are not far off our 17th wedding anniversary. How things have changed (here in New Zealand anyway).
It's not a whole series but alit of the clips in this video was used from Tom Hardy's Taboo. Very good and super weird show. That's where I learned about Molly Houses.
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You might enjoy Harlots on Hulu then. The last season has a Molly 🏠 house
@@Vaalie505 I would love to watch Harlots, unfortunately the original commenter and I live in New Zealand, Hulu doesn’t exist here.
¡congrats on 17, and many more!
4 minutes in and not ONE single bit of background on "Sex Workers". This video was mis-titled. It should be called "What it was like to be LGBT+ in 18th Century London" or instead of LGBT+ use Molly Boys. Since it is only about cross dressing and gay men. Not even about them being sex workers. Just that they had trouble being a gay man or a cross dresser or cross dressing gay man.
Nothing about Sex Workers
i learned something today, i didn’t know crowley was one of them 3:30
Not only is Weird History some of the *best researched* and *most accurate* history content on RUclips, it's *wildly entertaining AND incredibly respectful* to boot!!
I was honestly overflowing with joy and pride when the narrator spoke about "Princess Seraphina" (who specifically presented as a woman even in her life outside the Molly houses) by using feminine pronouns!
It's brave people like her who paved the way for the rights of the LGBT+ community today-- I can't even imagine her struggle to simply exist in 18th century England-- and I *love* Weird History for talking about her with the respect and dignity she deserves ❤️
This video is poorly done. The picture they use for Thomas Newton is in fact a man of that name, but not the one they are talking about. They used a Bishop's picture.
bro is that aziraphale and crowley at 3:30?
HI KELS IM HERE FOR THAT TOO SDKJKFKSHSD
@@Andre-uu8qp LMAO
Very interesting topic ! I love how many different things this channel covers ☺️
HELP NOT THE GOOD OMENS FANART
This reminds me of the show Harlots. They mention molly boys & there's a house with them too. It would be cool if the producers of Harlots could make a male version of their show. Harlots is super entertaining & i think a Molly house spinoff would be just as entertaining.
Mind sharing a blurb? "Harlots" sounds interesting.
Love that show!
@@Atm0111 I love that show as well to bad it was canceled
@@ashleyprice9487 oh no didn't know that, thought they were on on long break due to the pandemic (｡•́︿•̀｡)
@@Atm0111
I thought that as well till I read article along time stating it was cancel
This was not how I expected to start my morning but let’s gooooooo!
"Molly-coddling" makes sense now
3:30 you actually included an aziraphale and crowley Fanart in there 😭
Did anyone else spot the Good Omens fan art at 3:34?
We just gonna ignore the good omens fan art😂
Yes brony, it's shit.
this is a fantastic video but i need you to know that the illustration at 3:35 is azriaphale and crowley fanart from good omens
I think I need to have a talk with my parents about their name choice for me… 😂
3:30 YAOI??????????
i'm gonna throw up how thefuck did they find that picture
Hi all! CT, USA here. This is the best channel out of all my youtubers i watch!!! 💗
you love to see aziracrow history lore.
Did you just include Crowley/good omens fan art as an illustration of homosexuality?!
anybody else spot the Good Omens fan art at 3:34?
*please what is aziracrow doing there😭*
3:30 That looks like Good Omens fanart
I knew someone was going to beat me to it! That absolutely has to be an Easter egg.
This was really heartbreaking, honestly… 🥺
I agree
Why is this channel so amazing ?
3:33 I'M SORRY IS THAT CROWLEY AND AZIRAPHALE FANART BEING PRESENTED AS A HISTORICAL IMAGE
3:32 Th-that’s Crowley and Aziraphale
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I’m not sure if you already did the event, but you could do one about the “dance of the 42” this was a gay ball in Mexico during Diaz times and it included high ranking officials
The title of the video doesn’t really match the content here. Early on in the video it’s stated that these houses were much less about sex work and more for LGBTQ men to congregate.
Loved this video! So much, I'd like a Weird History on Burlesque, please.
I can't believe a good omens fan art made it into this video 💀
Same lmfao I had to rewind just to make sure my eyes weren't making it up 💀
Time stamp?
@@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 Probably late, but 3:31
@@amiable_monster lol... Thank you!
I can't belive you've copy pasted another comment.
3:33 THE AZIRAPHALE AND CROWLEY FANART
I feel like the video title doesn't match the content.
3:32 bruh. that's Good Omens fanart.
You’re my favorite history channel , thanks for your service
…was that Good Omens fanart from 3:30 to 3:36??
Thanks for the great & informative video. You should just change the title :)
WHO DREW 3:30
I’m sorry but PLEASE tell me you guys saw the Good Omens drawing-
Time stamp?
@@twinqt578 3:32
Interesting history but I'm confused by the heading. This wasn't about sexworkers it was about homosexuality and the consequences of such lifestyle in the past. But very informative. Thanks👍
Shout to the Weird History editor for putting Good Omens fanart in a video talking about LGBTQ history. Happy pride everyone
It makes me terribly sad that people could be hanged just for being themselves. It's as awful as being hanged for the color of your skin or religious practices. And we have made progress, but not enough. People should be just that....People. Not black people or gay people...just people. I so enjoy meeting and hearing the stories from every person I am lucky enough to interact with....what's inside is the only factor that really matters.
...is that a picture of the guys from Good Omens? @ 3:31
Yes
3:31 CROWLEY AND AZIRAPHALE?? HAHAHAHAH
Best video yet!
WAS THAT A FANART OF GOOD OMENS LMAO
My new fav youtube channel 😍 Thank you so much for all the research and dedication you put into these videos. I'm binge watching all of your videos!!
this is really interesting. never heard of molly houses until now
Is that a good omens fanart at 3:34?xDD
I thought y'all were joking about the aziracrow fanart in 3:30
“What’d you do this weekend”
“Some Molly”
“The drug?”
“Uh…. Yeah, sure”
I only know Molly as an abbreviation for molotov Cocktail. Throw a little Molly through the Windows.. But really interesting how words mean different inother languages.
@@ranjapi693 hmm. Interesting!
This narrator is amazing