People are Talking - Skinheads After Geraldo Show (Pt. 1)
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- In late 1988, talk of skinheads in the New York media was all the talk. There was the WABC-TV piece, then the Geraldo episode where his nose was broken. After the Geraldo show, there was a program called People Are Talking, hosted by Richard Bey, that brought trad skins on to discuss what skinhead culture is. This program features the founders of S.H.A.R.P. We must note that we are talking about the media here. There are going to be stupid questions, and of course the obligatory bonehead that is also invited to the program.
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Richard Bey show was good during my teen years
EVERYONE on earth should see this to clarify the 'skinhead' label. 60's og skinhead ideals weren't racist and it's unfortunate that the mainstream is unaware of this.
Wow. Marcus, this takes me back to NYC in the late 80's!!!
they lost that battle now didn’t they ?
The non-Racist skinheads seem like decent people. Humble, polite, and nice. Americans could learn a lot from them.
+Jason C. look REAL skinheads arent nice at all but they're not racist
@Deanoss Last not all skinheads are fucking clones you mindless sheep
Just cause they dress like Skinheads and look like Skinheads does not mean they ARE Skinheads!
@Deanoss Last Real Skinheads take a strong stand about their beliefs and will fight to the death against someone if they attack them or someone they love and care about.
@@jenniferdana5665 wtf would you know?? They dressed like proper skins, shaved their heads, were patriotic. Otto had the flag across his lap ffs.. they were non racist. Ticks every fucking box from the original English culture, and I lived in England for half the 80s.
When I see video's with this quality, I want to live in that era, I dont know why!
Wow I've always felt that way too haha glad I'm not the only one
Me to🤣
Great times and great memories
Television didn't actually look like this at the time. It only looks glitchy on RUclips because they're usually off-air recordings on VHS that people had for 20 years and it degrades over time. Also because people upload videos in compressed low-res copies. Just because a video is in 240p on RUclips doesn't mean we actually used to watch TV in 240p.
i was a production assistant on this show. KYW Phila
This is what happens when you get a media show who is clueless about the history of the skinhead culture and takes a few young people and puts them on a show purely for sensationalism. A show that puts a condescending prick like Richard Bey in charge who continually patronises them and tries to get cheap laughs off the audience. He continuously ignores what they're saying and uses every sneaky trick in the book to try and make them fit the stereo typical view the public had of them at the time ! Has the media changed ?? It's even worse these days !
Thank you, I agree
Truth. I’m no skinhead but I know the history. Originally it was mixed and not about race. The racists liked the look and took it. I forget what it’s called when someone swoops on someone else’s culture, I hear the word a lot these days but I just can’t remember. ...Appropriate or something? I’m so old I remember the original punk and ska/ ski head movement and can’t remember the names. Also mods were tied up in that movement. Anytime I see a skinhead acting the tough guy and racist, remember they really are just posers looking for an identity. Good for these kids taking a stance against racist poser garbage.
lord stfu 🤫
I love the look she had when they were introducing her it was the "you have no fucking clue" look.
first of all not all skinheads are racist, second that event looked like people tqlking crap and then the black guy tried to choke the white dude when he couldnt get his way, at least thats kinda what it looked like
Also good for marcus of SHARP for putting the straight edge thing out there on tv.
they need to have a reunion show on some talk show, lets see this family and there baby all grown up...
actually being straight edge is much more common on the NS skin side...
'trouble starting skinheads at the Paramus Mall' lol
thank God a fight didn't happened on this show. Poor Richard was in a very voulernable position interviewing these people, Im sure he was scared a brawl was gonna happen
Happiest day for shopping mall skinheads was the day hot topic opened....
Marcus is a tattoo artist out West. And Bruce Kreitman actually posted here once. From what I heard, none of the SHARP founders are in the skinhead scene anymore.
Hello. Could you please let me know the link or info you used to get old episodes of Geraldo Rivera's talk show? Thank you!😊
Can somone explain me please one thing? Troy is a sharp skinhead but also (if i good understand) describe as a nationalist . I know first sharps was patriots but nationalist?
Very thin line tween patriotic and nationalist skins. All depends in the individual you are taking to. Yes the very first SHARP were anti communist, pro patriotic. Just the facts. How patriotic depended on the individual. Were any of them racists, obviously not.
Thus proving their stupidity! haha Thank you for uploading these! Spirit of 69 Oi! Oi!
@NoPawn he may not be on the show, but on Geraldo, they didnt mention anything about trying to throw the baby down the stairs. I found the video I have of the geraldo appearence but the picture kept going blank. for some reason my video is not good quality.
The host is Richard Bey. American with a turkish background.
Nearly every Skin I've known is NOT racist.
do you still have contact with the creator of sharp?
anyone can be violent. i'm a SHARP myself and we're just like any other people. we're just human beings, we're not all a certain way. i am against racism but i don't believe in fighting hate with hate. i believe that anyone, even racists should have the right to their beliefs, as long as it's not hurting anybody.
Excaclty the way I was when I first went SHARP in 88' man. And when I reclaimed it in 06, over here in Perth Australia, my home country. Me and a friend and another fella started first 3 man crew here in Perth WA. Mainly cause so many boneheads kept turning up to local punk gigs at one time here mid 2000s. Just wanted to show rest of scene and new kids here that there was more to one side of skinheads. The crew only lasted like 3 yrs. But pretty sure we made some kind of positive influence.
Murphy's Law fuckin rocked Back With a Bong buy it today.
Spirit of '69, read that book if you want to understand what a REAL skin is all about.
THE FULL VIDEO IS ON HERE
"Geraldo Rivera Skinhead Fight Episode "
Please. Geraldo encouraged Innis to get up and confront them.
This is totally off topic, but look at those two old ladies in the background with the matching Afros! Now those are some neato 80's hair dos.
@klasomentas Lord, this video has been up here for two years and only now do I get people mackin' on Lyn? You are the second one in a day! I was into her 20 years ago the moment I dubbed this thing!
who really found SHARP? roddy moreno from OPPRESSED or this sXe skinhead? i thot its from acroos the channel from britain. but wherever it came from, SHARP RULES!!
Marcus Pacheco, the thinner fella with the claret v neck Fred Perry. He founded the very first SHARP crew based in NYC USA. I know this cause I discovered them and original SHARP being talked about in a Nyhc fanzine article in 1988 when I was still in England. Roddy was involved with AFA in Wales/Britain and the Oppressed were def the first openly anti racist Oi band he formed in 1982. But he has said himself he went to NYC visited with these fellas in 89'. And didn't bring SHARP as a group and an idea to England til bout end of 89'. Before then you just had normal non racist skins, and some 'red' skins in UK. To be honest Roddy fails to ever mention Marcus by name.. just says he brought SHARP to England on the rare occasion, always fails too mention Marcus's name or names of the other guys.. now I still got some respect for Roddy, what he done for skin culture over the years , the music he made with Opressed. And I heard he been skinhead since 1969. But when he mentions were SHARP comes from in future he needs to give proper credit where credit is due.
80's TV! we don't get this anymore, shame lol.
@MichaelHansenFUN That was Bob Heick who said that on Geraldo. He isn't on this show.
It's Celtic Cross, not a white nationalist cross. Racists normally adopt symbols that don't have racist origins.
@NoPawn BTW are you the long haired cat that Geraldo was talking to after the infamous " Skinhead Fight" on his show with Tom Metsker"s son and his goons?
Nopawn who was the blonde girl Troy was kissing in the head in the Geraldo show
Sadly I can't remember the name he posted under or when. I know it was a few months ago. It might also be on the video of the newscast on skins, and that has pretty much 1000 comments on it.
Late 60's bro they came out of the Mod movement.
This Bruce Kreitman guy has a tendency for getting arrested in Florida for taking things that dont belong to him.
@hitcan79 I see that you took them down. I will remove them entirely.
Wow that sure is an interesting mix of skinheads with different beliefs
are sharp skins also straight edge? it sounds like they are.
Not all of em, just Marcus at the time, rest were just average skinheads
still way better than the geraldo episode, not so much a circus like that one, also love marcus and lin
As seen in this clip, the skinhead movement started in England in the late 70's when black and white youths from poor inner city areas, disillusioned with high unemployment and poverty found hope and energy in the ska music brought over by immigrants from the West Indies. They formed SHARP - SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice. Skins were not a political group, just passionate young people trying to make the best out of a shitty social situation in Britain at the time. I should know, i was one.
Skins came out of London late 60s. SHARP as a group was created by Marcus as seen in this vid in 1988. Marcus Troy and Bruce were part of the very first SHARP crew in NYC. Roddy Moreno of the oi band the Oppressed met up with them in 89'. Then brought back the idea of SHARP to the UK. I was a SHARP in Worcester in 88'. So that's how I know that one. You had your normal non racist skins from 70s. But you did not have SHARP as a group over there back ,cause it hadn't been created yet,just saying.
@@colddaze6680I was just about to set the commenter straight but you've got it covered
@@colddaze6680I drove from Boulder Colorado to New York in 1988 to kick it with Marcus and crew. Took the SHARP movement back to Colorado with me.
@@ironfistandpowerman respect to ya man. we are same era. I was in England at time, but punk friends were swapping English zines with NYHC guys. And I found out about first wave SHARP through those. Was mad about hardcore at time, step bro was English skinhead from 82, it just all made sense.Tbh first skinhead met outside step bro was British Jamaican half caste skinhead kid, we met in same kids home.
@@ironfistandpowerman Darrin Cassien?, its Baldy here man, haha
@MichaelHansenFUN Richard Bey had about three incarnations around this time First was this show, then he did something called 9 Broadcast Plaza with Janet Langhart (who is now Janet Langhart-Cohen, wife of former Secretary of Defense Richard Cohen), then after she left the show, they changed the format a bit and it became the Richard Bey show.
6:17 Don't judge a book by its cover.
that threw me off...
almost the full show posted under the name
"Riot ensues at 1988 TV talk show taping featuring white supremacists Vs. Black and Jewish activists"
Is the host Dan Aykroyd's brother?
this is an 80's thing, where the misconception that all shaved head people were racist. we all know it is wrong. Also this is PEOPLE ARE TALKING? I thought it was the Richard Bei show. On geraldo, I didnt notice that the infant was almost thrown down the stairs.also on that episode of GERALDO, the racist skinhead says he doesnt do that kinda thing, "Jesus christ that is not the way to do things"
That would be good but unrealistic. I am in my 40's and our generation was unique and the times were different.
Not all skinheads are racists. The racists give the skinheads a bad name. Oi
@klasomentas Everyone loves Amy Miret.
Skinheads arn't racist, Is it so hard to go to wikipedia for the media ?
These sharps are super hip, American Skins...
@klasomentas Nah, they were married at the time. They aren't anymore.
@irjawz
i want sources
@oxytrebor Hey, it's Jersey! If something is going down in Jersey, it's going down in either a mall or a diner!
i cant believe that they bleeped out shit (0.32) but left the N word (0.26) in!
Troy seems to have racial/ethnic identity issues.
+Emmy Jeffery word lol
How so?
Ah fuck even if bruce was selling Skrewdriver CD's Skrewdriver is my favorite oi band, but i am not racist.
I heard this one before, still blows my mind Bruce did that, esp with his Jewish heritage.. All skrewed up, even Back with a bang is ok I suppose. Hail the new dawn, def not if you are anti racist skinheads.
What ever happened 2 Jenny Jones LOL
the Celtic Cross is not a racist symbol, but here in Europe is storically adopted by Nazis and Fascists, unfortunately...so the symbol isn't racist, but is used like that. sorry for my bad english, graet channel! ;)
@freddyglaz No, that was Brendan who was the lead singer of SFA at that time. The issue with brinkel was not so much about there being racist skins, but him saying that Jamaicans emulated the skins, and I have never heard that one. I can appreciate the discussion of the origins, but that one didn't make any sense.
it true lot of skinheads are not all bad
this dude came out on the bruno movie
Otto looks like Jared Lee Loughner.
@MiraMorningstar Except this baby was a white German. Baby would be about 22 years old now, by the way. I wonder what she is up to.
Wrong. Aryan is India.
@brikel No one said there weren't racists in the UK back in the day, but if you believe as you do, show us pics of skins from that era prior to Jamacians going there. Better yet, are any sporting swatzis, or even claiming Nazi - twenty years after the London Blitz?
Well said.. hit the idiots hard with basic logic, that they can't deny or try and twist with their bullshit, and eventually they give up.
@the804madman Shit, I just checked that out. It was actually just a few WEEKS ago! Google "Bruce M. Kreitman" and "arrested".
Wait. im young and bald. does that make me racist/nazi?
im from detroit!!!
@NoPawn This comment is in regards to the discussion you had with brinkel. I wanted to say that while this topic comes up frequently among skinheads or indivuduals who show interest in the skinhead subculture, it seldomly ends with the opposing views agreeing(original skinhead & Neo Nazi) as to what the "excact" origins of skinhead are. By no means am I calling brinkel a neo nazi. From what I understand, and I think im right.
@DanBell47, not at all.
no...very few are
I didn't post those comments, someone is fucking with my account....
lol skinhead "dont judge us by the way we look" LOL
home taping is destroying hardcore.
The host there seemed to be a little stereotypical about the whole situation, but I suppose that's understandable.
skinheads really has nothing to do with looks it is an attitude and a mindset...the style is simply a way of expressing it openly...but the original skins did not have shaved heads just close cut hair and almost all skinhead girls have some hair normally bangs with a buzzcut on the back
The sub culture was named after the hair cut..a number 2 crop was as long as you were supposed to get.. or else was not short enough. Only the suedeheads wore hair bit longer , usually with side burns.Levi ,Wrangler and Brutus jeans, Ben Sherman's and Fred Perry polo and mod fit button down shirts did become the uniform as skinheads evolved their style. Before that the very first originals just wore plain white button down mod fit shirts usually with braces and turned up jeans or sta- press trousers. Any kind of boots were allowed before docs became popular, army surplus boots were popular before dr martens were. The girls would wear short skirts with stockings and lady Jane style shoes. Mod fit button down womens shirts with or without v neck cardigans/sweaters usually. Their hair cut was a feathercut. Lot longer than the boys with bangs, triggers on sides and dove tails at back. it was all about their clothes and style.. the culture was based around their style and their music from the late 60s to late 70s. Before any extreme political ideas came in from the outside. Skinhead attitude came their dress style - 'Hard and smart' and 'Suited and booted.'
@NoPawn (continued) Skinhead emerged from the meshing of Jamacian Rudeboys and English individuals whose SEP(Socio Economic Position) is what one would call "working class". And yes NoPawn, the dominating theme in skinhead was not a Racist one or Nazi related. Far from it, it was simply two things: Music and Style(Ska,Ben Sherman,Levis). However, like brinkel stated, there were racist among them, whitch by no means am I implying that they rrepresented the culture as a whole. Jus a few bad apples
Bollocks first skins were Jamaican....muppet.
The 80s were the funniest decade America ever had.....hahahahahaaaaa!!
this is 90's
@NoPawn thanks a lot, I changed my password I hope that's enough
@brikel Well, you just told me exactly what I told you, so maybe that should be your first clue why.
Bruce Kreitman
google "william stump SKINHEAD ATTACK" and you will find out more info on the incident
Wow the black dude is clayton bigsy son
go on ya kiwi
Fuckin A man, unite and fight!!!
@ghostrecon112 true my friend,true...
Oh, God...Jersey hair at it's finest!
Lol, the "founder" of sharp?
Yeah Marcus was. Just facts.
THEY ARE SHARPIES RESPECT!!!!!
Fuck Politics!
Stop the bullshit arguing and antagonistic suckwad comments and disrespect. Side with Skinheads and don't be cruel or rude. Treat yourself and them respectfully.
Sharp is an identity now for anti racism skins, not really a group but a movement. A guy who isn't racist but takes people thinking he is a nazi and looking down on him for the love of the style and subculture has a lot more heart then a bigot thug who lives to offend and cause harm to minorities
@@jamiereid9910 Bang on my friend.. you nailed it.
most of these were on geraldo
and the guy on the extreme left was there also...the nazi guy.
@NoPawn i know man,i'm from Jersey too.Morris County ...i just thought it sounded funny
ahahah she doesnt know what SKA is...
She did... she just knew Marcus knew more about ska than her, and he could explain it better..
REAL SKINS! OI OI!!!
Some of the questions and comments made by the host made me cringe!
good luck
The girl had no idea how to describe ska music. Tagalong.