"Rachel was powerfully attracted to the idea that people might view her as a victim." I think this nails it exactly. The fact that she made up instances of harassment and discrimination show that however earnest she might be about advocating for social and racial equality, identifying as black was as much about selfish desires as altruistic goals. If she had darkened her skin, permed her hair, and lived a private life calling herself a black person, likely no one would ever have known the difference, and even if a few people found out, they probably wouldn't have cared. But she had to file false police reports and become the president of the local chapter of the NAACP--she wanted the attention and sympathy that she perceived came along with her chosen racial identity. Most people who identify with races other than their own adopt the customs, habits, mannerisms and speech of their adopted race, but they don't try to convince the world that they were actually born a memeber of that race. But Rachel insisted on that recognition, which seems to suggest that her motivations were, at least in part, self-serving.
"If she had darkened her skin, permed her hair, and lived a private life calling herself a black person, likely no one would ever have known the difference" -False. She could only pass as Black in America with their dumb 'One drop rule'. Same with Robyn Dixon and countless others. Most oft hem wouldn't be considered Black in most parts of the world. We don't even accept Bi-Racials as Black. "...and even if a few people found out, they probably wouldn't have cared.' -False. We do care when people make a mockery of our Race. Black Americans are not the A and O (The Standard) of our race but a powerful minority. Nowhere on this planet would she be considerwd Black, except for Americans. " Most people who identify with races other than their own adopt the customs, habits, mannerisms and speech of their adopted race" -WTf does this even mean? I'm 100% Black, more black than most Americans who are barely 60 to 70 % Black. So what are the customs, mannerism and speech of my race? You know that we are not a monolithic group. We are as diverse as any other race on this planet. Do you know how ignorant you sound? My family is all over the globe and distinct from eachother despite sharing one ancestry. We also adopted some cultural trais from the nation we reside in or were born in. I have very British family members (born and raised), the Eastern Europeans (Yes, Black people exist over there), and French. We even joke about our (cultural) differences. I'm the German, for excample. None of us behave like Hoodrats from certain Black groups in the US. That's the dumb thing with racial stereotypes. We don't speak in ebonics (AAVL), don't feast on Melons, we can swim (ffs, we are next to the ocean), eat fish more than chicken (my cousin therozised that chicken is cheaper than meat so it became a staple and stereotype for poor (Black)Americans. FFS, we don't even eat pork but beef and goat. And, no. We don't fuck around and rather have conservative values. " ...president of the local chapter of the NAACP" -Yeah, and the joke is on African Americans who fell for it because of the One drop rule. She should try this shit in South America, Africa or anywhere in the world with a large Black population. I guess, only white people are allowed to have different cultural identies and habits (see, Habitus-can't think of the French Sociologist studying our habitus (the way we walk, talk, speak, move etc.).
What bothered me was not so much her change in appearance and simply identifying as Black, but her made up "backstory." Making up experiences, especially negative ones that myself and other Black people cannot simply escape, felt like an insult. She essentially cheapened the Black experience, both positive and negative aspects of it.
Its her ideology. No different to christians believing in god, politicians believing in capitalism. Race is also a social construct - every race has an implied history, association with certain values, some are not shared by every person in that race. Even if she is not biologically black she has chosen to identify with it because it most closely approximates who she is.
Most postal workers are not racist, yet there are parts of Idaho which might not have much attractiveness outside of a pretty view. I remember looking at a state-by-state map of people on food stamps, and the way information was presented about the state of Idaho was italicized. It might be that the perception of Idaho by Idaho was protected from Idaho but... by Idaho or someone else? I consider myself intelligent yet I could not penetrate the gooble-de-gook of the map about food stamps recipients. We all know food stamps and the fifty health care agencies of fifty states and a few others are carefully aligned. Is this to protect their mission(s?) from the power of rhetoric? What if the receiving of food stamps in Idaho is for some reason so very important that all of this person's family were bent toward the telling of her tale, even the perception of her tale by herself, a certain way?
I am black and I welcome Rachel Dolezal with open arms. She has been a wonderful ally and has contributed greatly to the black community. I would save Rachel from a burning building before I touch your so-called "Black experience" Kanye West and his Jackass buddies who are constantly betraying and embarrassing the black community.
But, should that question be left up to a society that has historically ostracized people who are fluid or to the person who has this right given to them by their Constitution?
@@KimberlyLetsGo Roslyn is right - and there is a diffrence between respecting a person's personal beliefs or self-identity, and pushing it on others. The one time I have had the opportunity to talk to a Trans person, she totally agreed with this - for her(born him), she felt that a lot of Trans Activists activities were toxic and she was generally against them. i would say "anti-equality", but I can't recall if she used that term.
Society is both rigid and flexible, separate parts which do both for various things. Rigid society can not accept social rigidity, and fluid society can't accept society's fluidity.
I wonder if there are some sibling rivalry issues at play here. In some families, there is attention focused on particular children, with less devoted to others. Perhaps the needs of the adopted children were viewed as paramount, and Rachel was expected to perform as a little adult and also nurture the adoptees, while receiving little parental attention herself. That could have created a subconscious conviction that someone of color is more worthy than she was.
I was wondering that too. I don’t agree with Rachel’s actions but I feel sad for her that she didn’t feel like she could live in the world and be accepted as she is. She could have done all of those things as herself without lying…
@@weird_ally I agree. There are a wide variety of fashion and lifestyle options for people, and people can adopt other cultures and emulate them, but lying is dishonest.
You know how often times you'll hear somebody explaining something and what they are explaining is something you've already noticed or felt but you needed someone to put it into words , this is the guy who can do that.
I have been black all 35 years of my life and have never had a hate crime happen to me. Either I’m blessed to have grown up in California, or somehow in the victim Olympics, she is eight ahead of me. She’s honestly delusional and untruthful. Part of the problem is too many black people played into her delusion and allowed her to do these things and so she felt comfortable. There are no such things as gatekeepers in our community. Many of us handover the keys to the culture while the rest of us look on. Either I can make it a problem or I can just do me and live my life. I love who I am and my culture and I just dispel the BS. There’s good and bad in every culture.
Try going to the Gulf counties, but do not tell the you are from the USA. Let them assume the country you are from, you will know discrimination. They treat lighter skinned folks better there especially if you are from an African or South Asian country
A woman named Verda Byrd wrote a book titled Seventy Years Of Blackness. She had been adopted and raised black and just thought she was a light skinned black woman. When she was seventy and both her parents had died she discovered that she was white. Talk about race as a social construct!
@@kathrynowens3324 I saw it as well and watched and listened to her very intently. I'm mixed myself (from a very mixed Caribbean family) and can spot another mixed person a mile away, and had a strong suspicion that she was not a light-skinned black woman, as she had believed her entire life, or even biracial or mixed for that matter, but that she was fully a white woman. That is what I saw. Of course I didn't think she was lying though- I just didn't think she just didn't have the facts. Now we know, she was indeed genetically fully Caucasian. However, her mannerisms, way of speech, her way of being, were heavily influenced by her African American upbringing which would definitely alter the way one would view her. That influence has no effect on me personally... as for one, I'm not American. There are just certain signs of being mixed... even just slightly.. some are obvious and some can be very subtle. As obnoxious as this may sound, it takes one to know one. (one day I could get it wrong, but so far I haven't been yet)
I think if she were upfront and honest she would have been received more. But deception ruins her image and distorts her intentions. People can believe themselves to be what they want. The problem comes in when they try to force others to live their reality.
It may have come down to the simple fact that Rachel noticed that her adopted siblings received more attention from her parents and the public than Rachel and her biological brother. Envy/Jealousy could have been the impetus for her lie.
Same! I actually watch his videos during times when I am feeling down. Even though the subjects may not have anything to do with me. I still feel better after listening to Dr Grande and I always learn something new.
This is actually a skill I just learned in EMDR :D imagine a nurturing figure, a protective figure and a wise figure. These three figures can be real or fictional, they can be anything you want! The point is that you can imagine turning to them when you need support. So your technique of imagining Dr grande when you're upset is a useful skill :D
The irony here is that Rachel did realize something unfortunately very true about how our society works. Whatever race or ethnicity you look like or pass as is what people will assume you are and will treat you as. All she had to do was darken her skin and wear traditionally black hairstyles and she even fooled the NAACP. If the reporters hadn't caught unto her and exposed her I don't think anyone would have ever been the wiser.
I think all she had to do from day one is say, "I like black culture more than the one I was born into. I want to be a part of that community. I want to be culturally black." I think most people would have been cool with that.
@@The_Gallowglass I think that's what she wanted but to say that with her overall look instead of having to verbally tell that to people. She got tired of people judging her because she was white in the field she was working in. Edit: for the record I don't condone what she did. In fact it kinda pisses me off. I'm stuck being a non white person and having to deal with racism and being racially profiled. But people like Rachel get to pick and choose whatever race they want to be to and get to pick and choose to take advantage of presenting as that race or ethnicity. That's kinda bullshit but as long as you can convincingly present as that race or ethnicity you effectively are that race or ethnicity in our society sadly.
@@cinemathequerouge317 I know this because I am a mixed race person who has to constantly explain "what they are". This is why I am able to understand what she did, and why she did it. Although I don't condone it. She basically unlocked easy mode. She could pick and choose what she wanted to be to best fit her situation and circumstances. I don't get to. It's kind of unfair.
@@The_Gallowglass I think she stated she was black because it made her a more effective activist. I’m not sure she would’ve been given her role in the NAACP had she presented as 100% white.
Thank you for this, Dr Grande. We have had at least 2 cases, here in Canada, where the identification has been white to Indigenous. I am pleased that you have encouraged us to look at this topic in such a thoughtful and balanced way. . Once again thank you.
I've read and heard about non-indigenous North Americans claiming to be a member of a clan or tribe of Native Americans. The real tribe members are seldom welcoming--if not downright hostile--to such interlopers. As well they should.
@Jan Baldwin I recently heard about Carrie Bourassa, the Indigenous Health expert, who seemed to be quite accomplished in her field, saving lives. Also, Gina Adams, an artist, who did some really fantastic work. She got pinched last week by the genetics cops. My confusion about these cases is none of these people are slackers. They all seem to be really good at what they do. I tend to think they should be left to do their work. These people's careers are over. No school is going to touch them. No gallery is going anywhere near that artist. If they were bad at their jobs, it might not be so bad.
My father (born 1911) was a registered Chippewa. None of us children were registered. It wasn't cool to be an American Indian and I grew up white. When I looked into it much later in life for the sake of my grandchildren, I discovered that registration had been Closed in the mid 1950s. Nothing will get you registered anymore due to gambling casinos and the tribes not wanting to share any of the money. My father raised us all with a strong Indian identity but I don't dare call myself an Indian. It has to be enough for me to tell my children, grandchildren, and great-great grandchildren about their roots. My daughter married a man whose grandmother was Ute and has photos of that early 19th century wedding to prove it, but, interestingly, the current geneaology databases do not identify any of us an Indian. This doesn't mean we aren't, it means the databases are evolving and they don't have the right data yet.
@@susanohnhaus611 I'm so sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, you are far from an isolated incident. I have heard others with similar stories. The gatekeepers are pretty draconian in dealings with the undocumented. The best thing to do, from what I've heard others in your boat say, is to gather the most detailed family history you can. Exactly where your ancestors lived, who married who, as many maiden names, etc. Go back as far as you can. Some people have beaten the gatekeepers. Not many because those guys play by crazy rules. Best of luck to you & your family.
@@susanohnhaus611 Of course, I understand that there were and are so many injustices perpetrated against the Indigenous populations in Canada. So many were denied there Indigenous ancestry,, for instance the Metis.. Other instances were perpetrated by Indigenous groups themselves,. Specifically, Indigenous women who married white men. All injustices are wrong. The 2 specific cases I mentioned are not the same and were exposed and condemned by Indigenous groups here I feel very deeply for your struggle and hope one day that your Indigenous ancestry is fully recognized. No one should ever have their indenitry stripped from them and buried. I thought Dr Grande was talking about trans racial fluidity which is different than being DENIED ones background, isn't it ???
I have known people that are interested in black, Asian or Latino culture and are really immersed in it. But they never went far with pretending they were that race.
It’s certainly very interesting, especially with Asian cultures, I do think there are many people (mostly young ones even under 18) who identify so hard with anime and Asian dramas that they try to pull it off. Oh and k-pop bands. Another example it would be cool if Dr. Grande could talk about would be Oli London - the British guy who’s trying to become Korean. He’s had tons of plastic surgery, I think he’s taken this thing way further than Rachel Dolezal ever did.
I know black people who are interested in white culture and are fully immersed in it. Unfortunately for them, the rest of the world sees them as black.
Case in point: my dad. He’s in love with Asian culture, learned several Asian languages, it’s even part of his job. But he has/would never pretend to be Asian.
@@soft-spun Trans people are more like gays and lesbians ... as I see it, it's not really a "choice " for most (or many) of them. In my view sexual identity is just not as binary as we might think. I think it's a biological thing related to the brain and brain development in utero. We expect that reproductive organs define gender but I think there is an innate sense of gender identity that's somewhat independent. Saying both issues are alike is not wrong. Because it's a matter of self identification. I find that assuming a "different" racial identity is more clearly "contrived"...like saying your parents were Nobel prize winners when that wasn't case.
@@howard5992 if we support transgender ideology that means we support the idea that being male and female should be defined by one's mental state and the social construct/stereotype that surround it which is not something that alot of people including will not accept
@@simnm8057 I think you are mistaken in saying there is a transgender ideology. My view is that the small percentage of people who are transgender don't really have a choice in the matter. There is no belief system involved. Of course people do have choices in their lives and how they live them, but I am talking about the basic idea of identity. My view is that it is similar to homosexuality in that there is a neurological basis for identity just as there is a neurological basis for sexual attraction. We can reject the idea the some males are attracted to other males and the idea that some females are attracted to other females but it doesn't change the reality of what exists in our world (in our species). The "discovery" that transgender people exist is unsettling but it is very likely not a new occurrence. It is also likely a very small percentage of the population. Anyway, the subject isn't really a big deal except in the matter of sports competition and in terms of something like gym classes where there is a privacy issue for the non-trans students.
Thank you for this. As a biracial member of the lgbtq community, I have asked this question many times and wondered if anyone wanted to tackle it. This is a respectful analysis of both sides of the argument. Thanks!
This is digressing a bit from the video but the gay community is rampant with racism. As a biracial person, I never felt welcome in the gay community and I find things like pride month annoying when I can’t partake in it (not that I want to because my identity doesn’t revolve around my sexuality) yet it’s so in your face. The way biracial people get treated depend on their location and how “mixed” they looked but I was wondering about other queer biracial people’s experience.
@@誰かの捨て垢-r4e I'm not queer, but if you have relatives or even a desire to visit Los Angeles, you might find it a better experience. There are many here who seem to be doing well.
I know the story and I still like her. She definitely has some issues but she cares deeply about African American issues and in the final analysis she’s a human being. What she did wasn’t the crime of the century.
Dr Grande, the only authentic spokesperson in his field on RUclips in my opinion. Also the driest humour that never fails to raise a laugh (my all time favourite is your video on Elf on a Shelf). Greatly appreciate you Dr G, cutting through the cloying rubbish posted by rank unprofessionals on other channels & even handedly analysing difficult & potentially inflammatory topics with aplomb
Check out Dr. Tracey Marks (amazing mental health education videos and self help) and Dr. Ramani (narcisssism expert). The only other psych people I follow on youtube.
Dr. Grande, you always cover every side on all controversial topics and it calls us all to be more intentional/thoughtful when forming our own opinions. Thank you for your thorough and easy-to-understand response to this transracial ideology. Gender and race are social constructs and vary from each culture/society around the world. Many countries do not even categorize their citizens by race because they lack the history of slavery, racism, and oppression of POC that the United States is well known for. We must define if being transracial is cultural appropriation/offensive or an acceptable path to take as a society to break down the construction of race.
It's strange to think that she was the " odd one out" in the family even though she was the biological daughter, and her brothers and sisters were adopted.
Maybe that could explain her behaviour? If her parents preferred her siblings maybe she thought if she was more like her siblings she'd fit in. Who knows. It's very unusual.
Fascinating breakdown of this topic, Dr. Grande. I would absolutely love your insight on Oli London who identifies himself as Korean. Through his multitude of plastic surgeries to emulate as a Korean, I'd be very curious on your take on this. ❤️
The documentary "The Rachel Divide" Really enlightened me to what Rachel Dolezal is experiencing. It's on neflix, and honestly the whole thing is good, but she really reveals what's going on at the hour and 35 minute mark. She says she will never be, can not be, that little white girl from Montana again in an Amish dress. Rachel's identity is centered around something she *does not want to be* more than what she actually identifies as. She is more similar to a detransitioner, someone who identifies as trans because they *do not want to be a woman due to trauma* not because they want to be a man or inhabit a male body.
That's not the definition of detransitioner, detransitioning refers to someone who transitioned from their original gender to the opposite, and then back again.
Many trans people who don’t detransition also do so to move away from being women/men. It’s such a complicated topic, with such a huge number of causes, that it’s impossible to simplify it down to “wanting to be a man/woman”
That's not the case for many detrensitioners though. Many of them genuinely thought of themseleves as men and wanted to inhabit a male body. Eventually they realised that it was an unrealistic fantasy and detrensitioned.
I walked into my apartment complex as she was walking out yesterday. We've been neighbors this whole time and I just found out! She's pretty nice, actually.
I don’t see how people can accept that men are women just because they feel like they are, yet they say it’s crazy for a white woman to say she’s black. She grew up with black siblings, and her family obviously held them in high esteem. It isn’t something she’s doing to hurt anyone, and she’s tried to help them. There are a lot more major differences between men and women than blacks and whites. Yet she’s called crazy and laughed at, and men wearing dresses and makeup are called women. It makes no sense.
Just because she has good intent doesn't mean it won't have a negative impact. Rachel is very well educated in anti-black racism and used her position to take advantage. If she really cared about black people she would've worked to amplify the voices of black people instead of taking jobs away.
The circular logic is what has always got me when it comes to this. Even had one clown on quora try to tell me unironically that humans are like birds and should be able to identify as such because we use aircraft to fly... (I wish I was joking)
Being ‘exactly who we are’ doesn’t involve having extreme body mutilation and taking hormones that don’t belong in our bodies. We are biologically who we are the day we are born. We cannot change this. Gender is nothing more than performative sexism.
@@ashleighbowie1386 Yes. I have yet to read an explanation for why a person is trans without either sexist stereotypes or vague, pseudo-spiritual sentiment.
You avoided the most uncomfortable part of this, which is why some people are so annoyed by her - the idea that she has deliberately created victimhood for herself. You might have also lumped this in with people who are doing the same with disability. Some people have had legs amputated because they have a fixation with being disabled. As a disabled person myself, I find that quite offensive. I did not want to become disabled, and my life is difficult because of it. It isn't to get sympathy from people, in fact quite the opposite. With people then deliberately disabling themselves, my own situation becomes worse. What is also a part of my experience, is that although I am disabled, I also look mixed race. In truth I am just a dark skinned person of European origin, the most exotic my DNA gets is 15% French, and the rest British. 🤣 I have been asked many times, if one of my parents is Indian. Then if one of my grandparents is Indian, etc etc. Wearing hippy clothes and having a nose piercing really doesn't help. And yes, I've been called racial slurs a few times. I don't think victimisation is a fun part of life and I find it more than a little bizarre that someone might crave it. Moreover it makes the lives of people who genuinely need help and sympathy more difficult.
i mean in a case where someone is getting their legs amputated because they have a fixation on being disabled (is this something doctors really still do?!?) they ARE actually disabled. 1. they are very clearly disabled mentally and 2. once the surgery is completed disabled physically. i completely understand why you would find it offensive, though.
Rachel wanted attention. Perceived cultural victims receive attention. She misrepresented herself in many areas, not just race. She reminds me of the female professor Dr. Grande discussed months ago. Don't recall the name.
It's a simple question of demand and supply, as with most trends: if it pays (either economically or socially) to feel harassed, then you are going to find more individuals who try to be part of the group of the harassed. Today, victimhood is just as much a currency as dollars or euros, so it can't be surprising that there are people trying to stuff their pockets full of it. Especially now that the concept of victim can mean anything from "they sent me to a concentration camp" to "I felt mildly inconvenienced"
Gender and a race are social constructs and we as part of this society decide what’s accepted. I think people are not accepting transracialism because she’s a white woman becoming a black woman. However, as a black man, I know several people who wish they could be trans-white, trans-Jewish, trans-Japanese, trans-anime, etc. I think it’s not discussed much because people who would be motivated to be transracial are minorities looking to trans to the dominant race or culture.
I agree. In South Africa, during apartheid, there were many light skinned blacks (people of mixed race called coloureds), that went to white schools and lived in white areas, because they had straight hair and were light skinned. They wanted to have the benefits of being a white person with all the privileges that the non white people didn't have. It's very rare that a white person pretends to be black. For me this was not shocking, just the tables were turned. The way l see it is if she identified more with being black, and l think she would have, having black siblings. She obviously loved her black siblings to want to change the world for them. I think people can be who they want to be, that is freedom. Just let Rachel be who she wants to be, if she wants to identify as black and transracial, let her be that.
@@PrimericanIdol I agree. She has black siblings and went to an HBCU. She also married a black man who ironically she felt was not in touch with his blackness enough for her.
@@tdotjazzberryram61 from what I remember, it was about connecting to black history and figures like Marcus Garvey, Malcom X, MLK, Tulsa, and things like kwanza. She said he was more into white culture than she was. I found the interview on RUclips a couple years ago. She came off as having a lot of respect for black culture.
this video focused mainly on the social aspect of transitions, though i wonder if people like rachel experience any physical dysphoria similar to how transgender people experience bodily dysphoria. physical dysphoria can be a major source of discomfort and unhappiness for a trans person, and some trans people are much more bothered by their bodies than they are of their assigned gender roles. i wonder if a transracial person has any discomfort or insecurities about their physical racial characteristics in a similar way.
I am not so sure .. it is an idea that would come to mind but maybe I just haven’t seen many people nor communities , not even online where you can find everything , who identify with something like transracial ….
I've wondered that myself. Like, did she feel uncomfortable in her body? Did her body feel like a stranger to her? What is the physical thing happening in her brain to make her feel like a different race?
Some of the reasons people represent themselves as "other" than they "are" are shallow reasons (just like it better, benefit somehow etc.) and some are very personal deeply felt reasons (I hate being a boy/girl etc.) Why does anyone feel they need to interfere? You be you and let them be them!
Another fantastic video, Dr Grande. Amazing how you can untangle the largest, most emotionally charged ball of string in every post and present each case using logic and wisdom. We need more of this to understand more of us ❤
Never mind trans-gender or trans-racial constructs. I'm a trans-species individual. I'm Identifying as a cockroach, so I can live under your fridge and sneak out to munch on the left over pizza you've neglected, and drink the dregs of alcohol. But seriously, where does this pretending to be something you are obviously not and expecting to be respected for it end? If I want to be a cockroach, but can't fit under your fridge, then should you be obligated to build me a human size bunker there and let me stay in your home? Letting me believe I'm a cockroach, and expecting others to accommodate my cockroach-hood are two separate matters.
If Dr Grande is up to discuss this hot topic, i hope it won't be long to discuss the topic of transgender identified teenage girls and their very common detransition. sometimes with lifetime loss of their voice, fertility or body parts. And the comparison to other social contagious states of minds and other medical scandals. It needs doctors who ignore their oath to do no harm and cut off pubescent peoples breasts and prescribe hormones that lead to osteoporosis.
I think he will discuss it when one of those quack doctors get sued beyond oblivion and becomes a hot topic. Just to clarify, I support trans people but grifters targeting kids is a different issue
@@Catlily5 ....and? I'm sorry but you're not too bright and it's best if you stop commenting online because you only serve to annoy others with your silly comments.
@@Catlily5 dude, no one was talking about surgery. Adults refer to teens as kids too. You are simply parroting things without understanding the meaning behind it. You are a silly parrot, back off. People don’t want to hear from you.
What an amazing analysis of this controversial woman. Well done ,Dr. Grande. Your portrayal of Rachel Dolezal's young life clearly shows where her race changing ideal came from. Her parents burned it into her psyche at a very young age. When her parents adopted the four black children ,it is clear ,that it completely changed her view of her own self worth. Rachel disappeared within the family dynamic. The four black children were showered with love and care while Rachel was left ignored ,assumed by her parents , that she could raise herself just fine. Rachel loved her new family members and they loved her back but her parents simply , intentionally ,moved far into the background in her life. This fact made Rachel feel as though being white was a major handicap in her life. A handicap she was determined to change as she got older. To Rachel's credit, although she did potentially construct incidents to help raise herself up into the black establishment, it is also said that Rachel did try to do good work to help black people in America. What a profoundly scary way to live. With a self worth system inside you telling you , only if you look this way, you have validity in the world. Thanks Mom, Thanks Dad. Rachel, God bless you and be strong. The person in the mirror is beautiful no matter the color skin she has.
Thank You Doc. After going through her history you can see the dishonesty. Cautioning her brother not to blow her cover! Race is not a costume, but it was for her.
one could argue that it is also deceptive when transgender individuals make an effort to hide their biological gender when pursuing sports. The non-disclosure debate, shouldn't their league be able to at least know the history? We could take it further. If Rachel was deceptive for telling her brother (not to blow her cover) wouldn't this parallel a Transgender person signing up for a dating app to date people of their original gender only for one of their straight dates to find out and the trans person then asking for their straight date to not (blow their cover) to future dates?(with other people who don't know) Would you find it deceptive to go on a date only to discover your date was trans? Thenafter confronting them they admit theyre trans but ask you to keep it secret as to not infringe on their potential to have a success with future date with new people they meet
The only problem is that as a grad student at Howard University, she sued Howard for discriminating against her for being white, saying that her artwork was not included in an exhibit based on her white race. She may have sincerely convinced herself of certain things, such as "racial construct" but that doesn't make those things true. It just means she needs help sorting things out in her mind. Physicists say that both time and space are social constructs of this world. Tell your boss that and try and keep your job.
I hope this is not too arch, but I think she needs to toe the line regarding trans issues. She really stepped in it by claiming to be something other than white, but - to her credit - instead of running away like a callous individual, she shoehorned her peculiar sense of identity into the public forum. Her Achilles' heel is her level of deception.
I live in Spokane WA and remember this. Locally the problem seems to be that she lied and took steps to decieve. Similar to a public official posting false education/credentials to get a job. It was a huge embarrassment. Love the feet references! Haha
Okay after watching Dr Grande's analysis - I think I have decided that I'm going to be "transfinancial" from here on out. I'm broke, but I actually feel like I'm supposed to be really rich on the inside. * holds hands out and waits for money to fall from sky *
@@AnaLucia-wy2ii bit late for that I'm afraid. Already some rumblings of that exactly where you would expect to see it... (among the types Chris Hansen liked to ask to have a seat)
Dr Grande, have you heard about the white woman, Sandra Laing of Piet Retief, South Africa who was born to a white South African couple but looked black, and identified as black even though the DNA tests proved that she was their biological child? She FELT like a black woman, married a black man and had black children and yet DNA tests said she was white but she didn't feel that in her soul. I think this might have been the same feeling with Rachel after they adopted her black siblings, she identified with them and slowly, her soul FELT like she was black. Let Rachel be who she wants to be, this is a free world and anybody can be whoever they want to be. Let's focus on all the good things that Rachel did for the black community and just let her live in peace 🙏🙏🙏
It doesn't make sense, because a black person or a non white person o would never get away with being white and benefitting from a racist society. If you're transphobic and racist, just say so.
It seems like it might be easy to mistake the true black experience for shallow stereotypes associated with black culture, especially as shown on tv, movies, and other media, or contrived political narratives. Idk about it. I guess it's not my place to weigh in, but I have concerns for her children.
It’s really refreshing seeing smart white people. Not to mention she wasn’t trying to be black she’s trying to be mixed race and ppl in the black community all know how mixed and lighter skinned black people have privilege. I am black and white btw, so I am fully aware of my privilege and recognize I have a different experience from fully black women. She wanted a different type of privilege I feel.
It's "really refreshing to see smart white people"?! What if someone said, " It's really refreshing to see smart black people"? That would be racist, right? Of course it would. If you really meant, "It's really refreshing to see white people who understand the nuances of race," then you should have written that. Because what you typed sounds extremely bigoted.
@@detectivefiction3701 I’m half white half black i can say wtf I want to. I’m not a bigot I came out a white vagina and raised by mostly white people so I first hand have been dealing with the white ignorance my whole life. Bye mr nigga.
I can’t see how a transgender person could say they could go on living the way they want and this woman can’t go on living the way she wants. In a broad generalization they’re both just two things that want to be something that they’re not. I say let her be black
I agree. Let her life as she pleases. Of course she couldn't go on lying and keeping that job she had though. That wasn't okay. She took that too far. But I don't care if she wants to live her life as a black woman.
It's so funny to me when I heard her story, she said that when she was a child she colored pictures of herself with a brown crayon, yet, when she wanted to go to school at a black University ,she claimed discrimination when they didn't want to let her in ,saying that they were discriminating against white folks. I feel like this fascination with Black Culture started for her ,when her sons were born ,I think she was trying to find a way to bond with them. But aside from all that ,she is a fantastic artist. Really very talented!
But transgender beliefs are similar to transracial, that if a person feels different to what their body is, then their feelings are correct. And how do you know she wasn't discriminated against at a black majority uni for having too light a skin tone? I've heard racist rhetoric from people of dark skin tones too, and it is also true that some African Albinos, or just people from a darker skinned ethnicity, can have paler than normal skin, and report that they are not given the same level of respect as darker skinned people from same culture or ethnicity. I met an indigenous women like that in Australia.
TL;DR one drop rule. It's because the US still follows the One Drop Rule (although it's no longer enforced) which deems anyone as nonwhite if they have any drop of nonwhite ancestry. Since this rule has been in practice, any slight hint of a nonwhite feature gets someone catergorized as the other. Black African descent people in other countries are puzzled as to why Megan Markle and Obama are classified as black in the US when they are in fact mixed and have more Euro ancestry than they do Afro. I say this as a mixed person myself with black family members overseas who have expressed such thoughts.
@A B 'One drop rule' is a threat, an ideology. It's racism expressed in different ways where there very recently were Justice Of Peace who would not perform marriages for interracial couples, and to this day pastors that won't, and parents telling children they can't date other races. When there was slavery in the US being black meant: to an 1/8th... but a persons who were 1/16 were not? Maybe included 1/16th. Which is incredible because I know people 1/4 black who look very Caucasian European white and so I don't know how they managed this segregation that would require family ancestry identification... so it was unspoken and largely unenforceable once someone was visually 'passing' I am half white and Puerto Rican and Native but look white enough to be treated white everywhere. For someone to be enforced upon for 'a drop' is what? A nameless ancestor? Do you know your great great great grandmother's name
My same thoughts a long time ago. My father is a black man who can easily pass as white. At what point does your skin color qualify you to a race I.D. His culture is African American. Mine is too. Males can say they’re female and females can say they’re male. But try to ID to another race. Oh nooo.
I have always wondered what people thought of each other before mirrors? Where people as insecure then as now ? Thanks again Dr.Grande for great topics.
JMO but I believe all this is first world problems, I think back then people were struggling to literally survive day to day, they didn't have the luxury of time on their hands to be self introspective.
@@Casinogirl56 Agreed! I live in a 3rd world country and we're importing all those issues here. It's tough to see young people confused about gender and race, while they still struggle to have proper meals everyday.
I love these videos of yours Dr. Grande. Your analysis on complex topics is top notch. However, my absolute favorite videos of yours are the case analysis where you read case reports of psych patients. Please do more of those!!
Being a woman is a lived experience as well but women are socialized to try and accept others. I’ve been physically threatened for saying nothing more than the above so now my sympathy has run out.
I was just thinking about this. My close friend has spina bifida and uses a wheelchair out in public as his legs cause him pain when he walks. He can walk and does walk when he's at home, but the long distances when he does some shopping or whatever means he takes a wheelchair on long journeys. I've seen people look shocked when he stands up from his chair to be able to reach the ATM machine, as if they think he's an imposter or something. I guess it boils down to "how can you truly know if someone is who they say they are, and do we want to go down the route of policing these things or do we want to take the stance of live and let live?"
That one's interesting to me because there is actually a mental disorder called body integrity dysphoria which as a person who has experienced gender dysphoria actually sounds somewhat similar? Basically to my understanding the person will feel that a certain body part isn't supposed to be there, it feels foreign to them and causes them intense discomfort. From what i've seen it's thought to be that the brain's mental map of the body is different than what actually exists. And people will go to extreme lengths sometimes to self injure themselves and get rid of that part. And from what I've seen from the little bit that I've researched removing the body part does actually relieve the discomfort the person feels. And that's kind of how I feel with gender dysphoria. The sex characteristics of my body feel like they aren't supposed to be there. my brain's idea of how my body should be is different than how it actually is. even if we lived in a society where none of the social aspects of gender existed and there were no social expectations placed on you associated with your sex I believe I would still feel this discomfort. And some trans people do get to a point where they will self injure themselves in order to relieve themselves of dysphoria if they don't have access to safe surgeries. I have not gotten to that point, but it's still pretty debilitating. idk what you mean by "transabled" bc i know some people will also be malingering and that could be completely different, but body integrity dysphoria is something i've been super intrigued by due to those possible parallels
I think she isn't pleased about morphing into a troll doll of any colour, she turns on the TV, sees Oprah or Ellen and thinks, why isn't my thyroid imbalance making me a national icon?
Oooh Dr. Grande, you went there… Can’t wait to see what you have to say. I love that you are never afraid to tackle controversial topics.
Dr Grande always goes in there even when no one else will 😂
We love to see it! 🤠
I know me too!!
Dr. Grande bridges the divide! 🌉
@@bthomson ~Hope You're Having A Good Friday
The fight for "Racial Justice" and "Rachel Justice" is a very fine line....
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I heard it wrong every time
EG ~ Well done! xD
There is a huge difference, of course. Racial Justice is selfless. Rachel Justice is selfish
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When she told her brother not to blow her identity, that is crossing the line of her true intentions to the public.
Is it? Imagine hiding your nationality, because it is stigmatized. Not necessarily completely unethical.
I have known transgender people who made similar requests from friends and family about their birth gender
@@jonsampiro Or just regular ol' gay people.
@@AnaLucia-wy2ii But were they fake??
If the perp thought she was indeed black, then isn't it a hate crime?
She would have doubled down to her brother then, she was and has always been black.
"Rachel was powerfully attracted to the idea that people might view her as a victim." I think this nails it exactly. The fact that she made up instances of harassment and discrimination show that however earnest she might be about advocating for social and racial equality, identifying as black was as much about selfish desires as altruistic goals. If she had darkened her skin, permed her hair, and lived a private life calling herself a black person, likely no one would ever have known the difference, and even if a few people found out, they probably wouldn't have cared. But she had to file false police reports and become the president of the local chapter of the NAACP--she wanted the attention and sympathy that she perceived came along with her chosen racial identity. Most people who identify with races other than their own adopt the customs, habits, mannerisms and speech of their adopted race, but they don't try to convince the world that they were actually born a memeber of that race. But Rachel insisted on that recognition, which seems to suggest that her motivations were, at least in part, self-serving.
I honestly feel she took a spot of a person of a minority who needed those equal opportunity but she just put herself Infront of them
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That’s not particularly behooving of said minority; took their place for what? Playing false victim?
Must be a Rachel thing...
Yes, playing the victim card is also what makes it so offensive to black people too, I would think. It's way over the line.
"If she had darkened her skin, permed her hair, and lived a private life calling herself a black person, likely no one would ever have known the difference"
-False. She could only pass as Black in America with their dumb 'One drop rule'. Same with Robyn Dixon and countless others. Most oft hem wouldn't be considered Black in most parts of the world. We don't even accept Bi-Racials as Black.
"...and even if a few people found out, they probably wouldn't have cared.'
-False. We do care when people make a mockery of our Race. Black Americans are not the A and O (The Standard) of our race but a powerful minority. Nowhere on this planet would she be considerwd Black, except for Americans.
" Most people who identify with races other than their own adopt the customs, habits, mannerisms and speech of their adopted race"
-WTf does this even mean? I'm 100% Black, more black than most Americans who are barely 60 to 70 % Black. So what are the customs, mannerism and speech of my race? You know that we are not a monolithic group. We are as diverse as any other race on this planet. Do you know how ignorant you sound? My family is all over the globe and distinct from eachother despite sharing one ancestry. We also adopted some cultural trais from the nation we reside in or were born in. I have very British family members (born and raised), the Eastern Europeans (Yes, Black people exist over there), and French. We even joke about our (cultural) differences. I'm the German, for excample. None of us behave like Hoodrats from certain Black groups in the US. That's the dumb thing with racial stereotypes. We don't speak in ebonics (AAVL), don't feast on Melons, we can swim (ffs, we are next to the ocean), eat fish more than chicken (my cousin therozised that chicken is cheaper than meat so it became a staple and stereotype for poor (Black)Americans. FFS, we don't even eat pork but beef and goat. And, no. We don't fuck around and rather have conservative values.
" ...president of the local chapter of the NAACP"
-Yeah, and the joke is on African Americans who fell for it because of the One drop rule. She should try this shit in South America, Africa or anywhere in the world with a large Black population.
I guess, only white people are allowed to have different cultural identies and habits (see, Habitus-can't think of the French Sociologist studying our habitus (the way we walk, talk, speak, move etc.).
What bothered me was not so much her change in appearance and simply identifying as Black, but her made up "backstory." Making up experiences, especially negative ones that myself and other Black people cannot simply escape, felt like an insult. She essentially cheapened the Black experience, both positive and negative aspects of it.
Its her ideology. No different to christians believing in god, politicians believing in capitalism. Race is also a social construct - every race has an implied history, association with certain values, some are not shared by every person in that race. Even if she is not biologically black she has chosen to identify with it because it most closely approximates who she is.
Most postal workers are not racist, yet there are parts of Idaho which might not have much attractiveness outside of a pretty view. I remember looking at a state-by-state map of people on food stamps, and the way information was presented about the state of Idaho was italicized. It might be that the perception of Idaho by Idaho was protected from Idaho but... by Idaho or someone else? I consider myself intelligent yet I could not penetrate the gooble-de-gook of the map about food stamps recipients. We all know food stamps and the fifty health care agencies of fifty states and a few others are carefully aligned. Is this to protect their mission(s?) from the power of rhetoric? What if the receiving of food stamps in Idaho is for some reason so very important that all of this person's family were bent toward the telling of her tale, even the perception of her tale by herself, a certain way?
I am black and I welcome Rachel Dolezal with open arms.
She has been a wonderful ally and has contributed greatly to the black community.
I would save Rachel from a burning building before I touch your so-called "Black experience" Kanye West and his Jackass buddies who are constantly betraying and embarrassing the black community.
If a man transitions into being a woman, does he/she, in that vain, cheapen the experience of being a woman?
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“Society needs to decide which constructs are fluid and which ones are fixed” exactly, Dr. G.
But, should that question be left up to a society that has historically ostracized people who are fluid or to the person who has this right given to them by their Constitution?
@@KimberlyLetsGo there is no constitutional right to have others enable your self-identity
@@KimberlyLetsGo Roslyn is right - and there is a diffrence between respecting a person's personal beliefs or self-identity, and pushing it on others. The one time I have had the opportunity to talk to a Trans person, she totally agreed with this - for her(born him), she felt that a lot of Trans Activists activities were toxic and she was generally against them. i would say "anti-equality", but I can't recall if she used that term.
Society is both rigid and flexible, separate parts which do both for various things. Rigid society can not accept social rigidity, and fluid society can't accept society's fluidity.
Science has already decided those things, biological reality is not a fluid one, whether it be race, sex, body weight etc
I wonder if there are some sibling rivalry issues at play here. In some families, there is attention focused on particular children, with less devoted to others. Perhaps the needs of the adopted children were viewed as paramount, and Rachel was expected to perform as a little adult and also nurture the adoptees, while receiving little parental attention herself. That could have created a subconscious conviction that someone of color is more worthy than she was.
I was wondering that too. I don’t agree with Rachel’s actions but I feel sad for her that she didn’t feel like she could live in the world and be accepted as she is. She could have done all of those things as herself without lying…
@@weird_ally I agree. There are a wide variety of fashion and lifestyle options for people, and people can adopt other cultures and emulate them, but lying is dishonest.
I thought the same thing. She’s still trying to feel “worthy” because the younger boys needed more support and Rachel felt the loss.
She's like that episode of the Brady bunch when Jan was jealous of Marcia. She wore an afro wig to stand out from "Marcia Marcia Marcia!"
That's what I thought. Like, mom and dad had me and wasn't enough but chose them
Turns out she's just trans-Rachel. 🤔
I was scrolling until I found someone who voiced my thought!
@@kathybuttsarnold3534 You're welcome. ;)
Dr. Grande: can you evaluate this criminally underrated comment?
You know how often times you'll hear somebody explaining something and what they are explaining is something you've already noticed or felt but you needed someone to put it into words , this is the guy who can do that.
I have been black all 35 years of my life and have never had a hate crime happen to me. Either I’m blessed to have grown up in California, or somehow in the victim Olympics, she is eight ahead of me. She’s honestly delusional and untruthful. Part of the problem is too many black people played into her delusion and allowed her to do these things and so she felt comfortable. There are no such things as gatekeepers in our community. Many of us handover the keys to the culture while the rest of us look on. Either I can make it a problem or I can just do me and live my life. I love who I am and my culture and I just dispel the BS. There’s good and bad in every culture.
As many bad things still occur in the modern world I doubt there are a- holes sitting around all day sending nasty letters to random people like that
YOU ARE BLESSED.
Noooo you're totally oppressed, as a white man let me explain your oppression to you
There are no instances of “white on black hate crimes” on the contrary, there are INFINITE instances of violent black on white crime.
Try going to the Gulf counties, but do not tell the you are from the USA. Let them assume the country you are from, you will know discrimination. They treat lighter skinned folks better there especially if you are from an African or South Asian country
A woman named Verda Byrd wrote a book titled Seventy Years Of Blackness. She had been adopted and raised black and just thought she was a light skinned black woman. When she was seventy and both her parents had died she discovered that she was white. Talk about race as a social construct!
Shaun King had a similar experience
@@j.b.3502 thank you, I'll check him out
I saw that video about Verda. But she definitely looks mixed. Someone in her story is lying.
@@j.b.3502 LOL
@@kathrynowens3324 I saw it as well and watched and listened to her very intently. I'm mixed myself (from a very mixed Caribbean family) and can spot another mixed person a mile away, and had a strong suspicion that she was not a light-skinned black woman, as she had believed her entire life, or even biracial or mixed for that matter, but that she was fully a white woman. That is what I saw. Of course I didn't think she was lying though- I just didn't think she just didn't have the facts. Now we know, she was indeed genetically fully Caucasian. However, her mannerisms, way of speech, her way of being, were heavily influenced by her African American upbringing which would definitely alter the way one would view her. That influence has no effect on me personally... as for one, I'm not American. There are just certain signs of being mixed... even just slightly.. some are obvious and some can be very subtle. As obnoxious as this may sound, it takes one to know one. (one day I could get it wrong, but so far I haven't been yet)
She didn't choose to be a liar. She's just always self identified as one.
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DAMN 😂
Hahaha fax!
She is a compulsive liar.
I think if she were upfront and honest she would have been received more. But deception ruins her image and distorts her intentions.
People can believe themselves to be what they want. The problem comes in when they try to force others to live their reality.
Exactly 💯👍.
Truth!
Deception? Working with Naacp? In lily white Washington?
She wanted attention and being a "victim", she expected to stay in the spotlight.
people are too self-important and attention seeking. in the old days we called it silly.
It may have come down to the simple fact that Rachel noticed that her adopted siblings received more attention from her parents and the public than Rachel and her biological brother. Envy/Jealousy could have been the impetus for her lie.
Whenever I am upset I imagine having a conversation with Dr. Grande and I feel better, lol
Same! I actually watch his videos during times when I am feeling down. Even though the subjects may not have anything to do with me. I still feel better after listening to Dr Grande and I always learn something new.
Especially the way the world is right now! This channel is a harbor!
This is actually a skill I just learned in EMDR :D imagine a nurturing figure, a protective figure and a wise figure. These three figures can be real or fictional, they can be anything you want! The point is that you can imagine turning to them when you need support. So your technique of imagining Dr grande when you're upset is a useful skill :D
Same.
As a 34-year-old, I got to say, I liked myself better at 24, I identify as a 24-year-old. Time is also a social construct.
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I guess death is a construct then, as well? What about chronological age? That a construct?
Time is relative until you need to catch the train
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😂 that's great I will do the same
The irony here is that Rachel did realize something unfortunately very true about how our society works. Whatever race or ethnicity you look like or pass as is what people will assume you are and will treat you as. All she had to do was darken her skin and wear traditionally black hairstyles and she even fooled the NAACP. If the reporters hadn't caught unto her and exposed her I don't think anyone would have ever been the wiser.
I think all she had to do from day one is say, "I like black culture more than the one I was born into. I want to be a part of that community. I want to be culturally black." I think most people would have been cool with that.
@@The_Gallowglass I think that's what she wanted but to say that with her overall look instead of having to verbally tell that to people. She got tired of people judging her because she was white in the field she was working in.
Edit: for the record I don't condone what she did. In fact it kinda pisses me off. I'm stuck being a non white person and having to deal with racism and being racially profiled. But people like Rachel get to pick and choose whatever race they want to be to and get to pick and choose to take advantage of presenting as that race or ethnicity. That's kinda bullshit but as long as you can convincingly present as that race or ethnicity you effectively are that race or ethnicity in our society sadly.
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If you know any Mixed Race people, ask them how tired they get explaining "what they are."
It was probably easier to do what she did.
@@cinemathequerouge317 I know this because I am a mixed race person who has to constantly explain "what they are". This is why I am able to understand what she did, and why she did it. Although I don't condone it. She basically unlocked easy mode. She could pick and choose what she wanted to be to best fit her situation and circumstances. I don't get to. It's kind of unfair.
@@The_Gallowglass I think she stated she was black because it made her a more effective activist. I’m not sure she would’ve been given her role in the NAACP had she presented as 100% white.
Dr Grande presents a measured and even handed take that is basically absent from our public discourse. I'm quite thankful for it.
Thank you for this, Dr Grande. We have had at least 2 cases, here in Canada, where the identification has been white to Indigenous. I am pleased that you have encouraged us to look at this topic in such a thoughtful and balanced way. . Once again thank you.
I've read and heard about non-indigenous North Americans claiming to be a member of a clan or tribe of Native Americans. The real tribe members are seldom welcoming--if not downright hostile--to such interlopers. As well they should.
@Jan Baldwin
I recently heard about Carrie Bourassa, the Indigenous Health expert, who seemed to be quite accomplished in her field, saving lives.
Also, Gina Adams, an artist, who did some really fantastic work. She got pinched last week by the genetics cops.
My confusion about these cases is none of these people are slackers. They all seem to be really good at what they do. I tend to think they should be left to do their work.
These people's careers are over. No school is going to touch them. No gallery is going anywhere near that artist.
If they were bad at their jobs, it might not be so bad.
My father (born 1911) was a registered Chippewa. None of us children were registered. It wasn't cool to be an American Indian and I grew up white. When I looked into it much later in life for the sake of my grandchildren, I discovered that registration had been Closed in the mid 1950s. Nothing will get you registered anymore due to gambling casinos and the tribes not wanting to share any of the money. My father raised us all with a strong Indian identity but I don't dare call myself an Indian. It has to be enough for me to tell my children, grandchildren, and great-great grandchildren about their roots. My daughter married a man whose grandmother was Ute and has photos of that early 19th century wedding to prove it, but, interestingly, the current geneaology databases do not identify any of us an Indian. This doesn't mean we aren't, it means the databases are evolving and they don't have the right data yet.
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I'm so sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, you are far from an isolated incident. I have heard others with similar stories.
The gatekeepers are pretty draconian in dealings with the undocumented.
The best thing to do, from what I've heard others in your boat say, is to gather the most detailed family history you can. Exactly where your ancestors lived, who married who, as many maiden names, etc. Go back as far as you can.
Some people have beaten the gatekeepers. Not many because those guys play by crazy rules. Best of luck to you & your family.
@@susanohnhaus611 Of course, I understand that there were and are so many injustices perpetrated against the Indigenous populations in Canada. So many were denied there Indigenous ancestry,, for instance the Metis.. Other instances were perpetrated by Indigenous groups themselves,. Specifically, Indigenous women who married white men. All injustices are wrong. The 2 specific cases I mentioned are not the same and were exposed and condemned by Indigenous groups here I feel very deeply for your struggle and hope one day that your Indigenous ancestry is fully recognized. No one should ever have their indenitry stripped from them and buried. I thought Dr Grande was talking about trans racial fluidity which is different than being DENIED ones background, isn't it ???
I have known people that are interested in black, Asian or Latino culture and are really immersed in it. But they never went far with pretending they were that race.
What about that one guy who transitioned into a Korean K-pop star
It’s certainly very interesting, especially with Asian cultures, I do think there are many people (mostly young ones even under 18) who identify so hard with anime and Asian dramas that they try to pull it off. Oh and k-pop bands.
Another example it would be cool if Dr. Grande could talk about would be Oli London - the British guy who’s trying to become Korean. He’s had tons of plastic surgery, I think he’s taken this thing way further than Rachel Dolezal ever did.
I know black people who are interested in white culture and are fully immersed in it. Unfortunately for them, the rest of the world sees them as black.
Case in point: my dad. He’s in love with Asian culture, learned several Asian languages, it’s even part of his job. But he has/would never pretend to be Asian.
Alec Baldwin's wife pretended to be Hispanic/Latino.
Came for the commentary, stayed for the foot puns. God bless you, Dr. Grande
Yes! Those were good! 👞👟👠👡👢
Lol...Came for the commentary, stayed despite the foot puns. Damn you, Dr. Grande. 😄
Always
me too, just waiting for the other shoe to drop...
Now busted, it looks like she's got to "Put on her red shoes & dance the Blues." 👠😲💙
An African American and an Indian walk into a bar...no, I'm joking, it was just Rachel Dolezal and Elizabeth Warren.
I want to identify as a 62 year old world renowned surgeon, and retire.
I "identify" as a kitten. (how crazy can this world get?)
I freaking love that Dr. Grande doesn’t shy away from hard conversations!
Me too. In a world where everyone is too scared to say what they think because the haters online will just pile on and on forever
Well presented, thoughtful, unbiased and respectful synopsis of a sensitive topic, Dr. G. 💯
P.S. AND quite thought provoking
Agree! As always
I must say you got some pretty big balls for taking on this topic.
He analyzes human behavior...why wouldn't he speak on this behavior? 🤔
@daisyk but its not trans as in gender ...ya , I get it ....another race or ethic group but still a behavior
@@soft-spun Trans people are more like gays and lesbians ... as I see it, it's not really a "choice " for most (or many) of them.
In my view sexual identity is just not as binary as we might think.
I think it's a biological thing related to the brain and brain development in utero.
We expect that reproductive organs define gender but I think there is an innate sense of gender identity that's somewhat independent.
Saying both issues are alike is not wrong. Because it's a matter of self identification.
I find that assuming a "different" racial identity is more clearly "contrived"...like saying your parents were Nobel prize winners when that wasn't case.
@@howard5992 if we support transgender ideology that means we support the idea that being male and female should be defined by one's mental state and the social construct/stereotype that surround it which is not something that alot of people including will not accept
@@simnm8057 I think you are mistaken in saying there is a transgender ideology. My view is that the small percentage of people who are transgender don't really have a choice in the matter. There is no belief system involved.
Of course people do have choices in their lives and how they live them, but I am talking about the basic idea of identity.
My view is that it is similar to homosexuality in that there is a neurological basis for identity just as there is a neurological basis for sexual attraction.
We can reject the idea the some males are attracted to other males and the idea that some females are attracted to other females but it doesn't change the reality of what exists in our world (in our species).
The "discovery" that transgender people exist is unsettling but it is very likely not a new occurrence. It is also likely a very small percentage of the population.
Anyway, the subject isn't really a big deal except in the matter of sports competition and in terms of something like gym classes where there is a privacy issue for the non-trans students.
Thank you for this. As a biracial member of the lgbtq community, I have asked this question many times and wondered if anyone wanted to tackle it. This is a respectful analysis of both sides of the argument. Thanks!
Yippee! A compliment from someone who REALLY counts!
This is digressing a bit from the video but the gay community is rampant with racism. As a biracial person, I never felt welcome in the gay community and I find things like pride month annoying when I can’t partake in it (not that I want to because my identity doesn’t revolve around my sexuality) yet it’s so in your face. The way biracial people get treated depend on their location and how “mixed” they looked but I was wondering about other queer biracial people’s experience.
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I'm not queer, but if you have relatives or even a desire to visit Los Angeles, you might find it a better experience. There are many here who seem to be doing well.
I know the story and I still like her. She definitely has some issues but she cares deeply about African American issues and in the final analysis she’s a human being. What she did wasn’t the crime of the century.
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It’s certainly a symptom of the malaise of the century, though.
Dr Grande, the only authentic spokesperson in his field on RUclips in my opinion. Also the driest humour that never fails to raise a laugh (my all time favourite is your video on Elf on a Shelf). Greatly appreciate you Dr G, cutting through the cloying rubbish posted by rank unprofessionals on other channels & even handedly analysing difficult & potentially inflammatory topics with aplomb
Check out Dr. Tracey Marks (amazing mental health education videos and self help) and Dr. Ramani (narcisssism expert). The only other psych people I follow on youtube.
Dr. Grande, you always cover every side on all controversial topics and it calls us all to be more intentional/thoughtful when forming our own opinions. Thank you for your thorough and easy-to-understand response to this transracial ideology. Gender and race are social constructs and vary from each culture/society around the world. Many countries do not even categorize their citizens by race because they lack the history of slavery, racism, and oppression of POC that the United States is well known for. We must define if being transracial is cultural appropriation/offensive or an acceptable path to take as a society to break down the construction of race.
It's strange to think that she was the " odd one out" in the family even though she was the biological daughter, and her brothers and sisters were adopted.
She has a biological brother as well.
@@Catlily5 oh ok thanks for the correction 👍
Maybe that could explain her behaviour? If her parents preferred her siblings maybe she thought if she was more like her siblings she'd fit in. Who knows. It's very unusual.
Fascinating breakdown of this topic, Dr. Grande. I would absolutely love your insight on Oli London who identifies himself as Korean. Through his multitude of plastic surgeries to emulate as a Korean, I'd be very curious on your take on this. ❤️
+1
I'd love to hear about Oli London's case. That story has so many twists & turns
Yesss! I'd love to see a video on that!
He crazy.
Well : he is batshit crazy. That's the analysis.
People can just be crazy anymore?
The documentary "The Rachel Divide" Really enlightened me to what Rachel Dolezal is experiencing. It's on neflix, and honestly the whole thing is good, but she really reveals what's going on at the hour and 35 minute mark. She says she will never be, can not be, that little white girl from Montana again in an Amish dress. Rachel's identity is centered around something she *does not want to be* more than what she actually identifies as. She is more similar to a detransitioner, someone who identifies as trans because they *do not want to be a woman due to trauma* not because they want to be a man or inhabit a male body.
We watched it in college a couple years ago (right before the COVID lockdown) and everyone was gobsmacked by it LOL
That's not the definition of detransitioner, detransitioning refers to someone who transitioned from their original gender to the opposite, and then back again.
Many trans people who don’t detransition also do so to move away from being women/men. It’s such a complicated topic, with such a huge number of causes, that it’s impossible to simplify it down to “wanting to be a man/woman”
That's not the case for many detrensitioners though. Many of them genuinely thought of themseleves as men and wanted to inhabit a male body. Eventually they realised that it was an unrealistic fantasy and detrensitioned.
@@pythonjava6228 exactly. Many people who detransition simply don’t believe in the ideology anymore but are happy with the changes.
OMG here's one I requested!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I walked into my apartment complex as she was walking out yesterday. We've been neighbors this whole time and I just found out! She's pretty nice, actually.
I don’t see how people can accept that men are women just because they feel like they are, yet they say it’s crazy for a white woman to say she’s black. She grew up with black siblings, and her family obviously held them in high esteem. It isn’t something she’s doing to hurt anyone, and she’s tried to help them. There are a lot more major differences between men and women than blacks and whites. Yet she’s called crazy and laughed at, and men wearing dresses and makeup are called women. It makes no sense.
Just because she has good intent doesn't mean it won't have a negative impact. Rachel is very well educated in anti-black racism and used her position to take advantage. If she really cared about black people she would've worked to amplify the voices of black people instead of taking jobs away.
Because society doesn't care about misogyny.
It’s always an Awesome day when Dr Grande launches a new video !!!😎
The circular logic is what has always got me when it comes to this. Even had one clown on quora try to tell me unironically that humans are like birds and should be able to identify as such because we use aircraft to fly... (I wish I was joking)
Being ‘exactly who we are’ doesn’t involve having extreme body mutilation and taking hormones that don’t belong in our bodies. We are biologically who we are the day we are born. We cannot change this. Gender is nothing more than performative sexism.
I dont agree fully with the first part of your statement but this hit the nail on the head: "Gender is nothing more than performative sexism".
@@ashleighbowie1386 Yes. I have yet to read an explanation for why a person is trans without either sexist stereotypes or vague, pseudo-spiritual sentiment.
Her argument makes perfect sense. Culture is a social construct. You can identify with any culture. Don’t question people’s identity.
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You avoided the most uncomfortable part of this, which is why some people are so annoyed by her - the idea that she has deliberately created victimhood for herself. You might have also lumped this in with people who are doing the same with disability. Some people have had legs amputated because they have a fixation with being disabled. As a disabled person myself, I find that quite offensive. I did not want to become disabled, and my life is difficult because of it. It isn't to get sympathy from people, in fact quite the opposite. With people then deliberately disabling themselves, my own situation becomes worse.
What is also a part of my experience, is that although I am disabled, I also look mixed race. In truth I am just a dark skinned person of European origin, the most exotic my DNA gets is 15% French, and the rest British. 🤣 I have been asked many times, if one of my parents is Indian. Then if one of my grandparents is Indian, etc etc. Wearing hippy clothes and having a nose piercing really doesn't help. And yes, I've been called racial slurs a few times. I don't think victimisation is a fun part of life and I find it more than a little bizarre that someone might crave it. Moreover it makes the lives of people who genuinely need help and sympathy more difficult.
i mean in a case where someone is getting their legs amputated because they have a fixation on being disabled (is this something doctors really still do?!?) they ARE actually disabled. 1. they are very clearly disabled mentally and 2. once the surgery is completed disabled physically.
i completely understand why you would find it offensive, though.
She doesn’t want actual victimhood. Just the perceived bennys of it… 🙄🙄🙄
Rachel wanted attention. Perceived cultural victims receive attention. She misrepresented herself in many areas, not just race. She reminds me of the female professor Dr. Grande discussed months ago. Don't recall the name.
I think you're talking about Marie Sophie Hingst. The lady who said her family was Holocaust survivors.
It makes just as much sense to pretend to be black as it does a man pretending to be a woman.
4:03 OMG those "foot" jokes. LMAO THIS is why I love your channel.
When you started making foot puns, I literally cried "Dad! Stop!" 😂
Listen, we ARE what we ARE. The healthy thing to do is find a way to live with ourselves... Without deceiving others OR our own minds.💯
You said it!😀
Yes! Yes! Yes!
And LOVE yourself
But I want to identify as a size 2 multi billionaire. Are you saying I’m not???? 😂
It's a simple question of demand and supply, as with most trends: if it pays (either economically or socially) to feel harassed, then you are going to find more individuals who try to be part of the group of the harassed. Today, victimhood is just as much a currency as dollars or euros, so it can't be surprising that there are people trying to stuff their pockets full of it. Especially now that the concept of victim can mean anything from "they sent me to a concentration camp" to "I felt mildly inconvenienced"
Well put.
I dont see how you could believe in transgenderism but not transracialism.
When you cannot accept the way you were born; lies become your reality.
are you saying that trans people are delusional or mentally ill?
Cultural Appropriation is a very sensitive topic until St. Patrick's Day rolls around
Gender and a race are social constructs and we as part of this society decide what’s accepted. I think people are not accepting transracialism because she’s a white woman becoming a black woman. However, as a black man, I know several people who wish they could be trans-white, trans-Jewish, trans-Japanese, trans-anime, etc. I think it’s not discussed much because people who would be motivated to be transracial are minorities looking to trans to the dominant race or culture.
Her transition is also generational. She may not have been born black, but her children definitely were.
I agree. In South Africa, during apartheid, there were many light skinned blacks (people of mixed race called coloureds), that went to white schools and lived in white areas, because they had straight hair and were light skinned. They wanted to have the benefits of being a white person with all the privileges that the non white people didn't have. It's very rare that a white person pretends to be black. For me this was not shocking, just the tables were turned. The way l see it is if she identified more with being black, and l think she would have, having black siblings. She obviously loved her black siblings to want to change the world for them. I think people can be who they want to be, that is freedom. Just let Rachel be who she wants to be, if she wants to identify as black and transracial, let her be that.
@@PrimericanIdol I agree. She has black siblings and went to an HBCU. She also married a black man who ironically she felt was not in touch with his blackness enough for her.
@@UnDark1 So then, what is HER perception of blackness if he wasn't " black enough " ?
@@tdotjazzberryram61 from what I remember, it was about connecting to black history and figures like Marcus Garvey, Malcom X, MLK, Tulsa, and things like kwanza. She said he was more into white culture than she was. I found the interview on RUclips a couple years ago. She came off as having a lot of respect for black culture.
this video focused mainly on the social aspect of transitions, though i wonder if people like rachel experience any physical dysphoria similar to how transgender people experience bodily dysphoria. physical dysphoria can be a major source of discomfort and unhappiness for a trans person, and some trans people are much more bothered by their bodies than they are of their assigned gender roles. i wonder if a transracial person has any discomfort or insecurities about their physical racial characteristics in a similar way.
I am not so sure .. it is an idea that would come to mind but maybe I just haven’t seen many people nor communities , not even online where you can find everything , who identify with something like transracial ….
I've wondered that myself. Like, did she feel uncomfortable in her body? Did her body feel like a stranger to her? What is the physical thing happening in her brain to make her feel like a different race?
Yes like did being around black culture nd people eventually lead to her uncomfortably in her skin?
Some of the reasons people represent themselves as "other" than they "are" are shallow reasons (just like it better, benefit somehow etc.) and some are very personal deeply felt reasons (I hate being a boy/girl etc.) Why does anyone feel they need to interfere? You be you and let them be them!
Another fantastic video, Dr Grande. Amazing how you can untangle the largest, most emotionally charged ball of string in every post and present each case using logic and wisdom. We need more of this to understand more of us ❤
Brilliant analysis. Thorough, thoughtful, and respectful. Thank you Dr. G!
THANK YOU DR GRANDE! I’ve been wanting to know what analysis you would have in this situation.
Just when I think it can’t get any better, Dr Grande makes my day with fantastic content.
Never mind trans-gender or trans-racial constructs. I'm a trans-species individual. I'm Identifying as a cockroach, so I can live under your fridge and sneak out to munch on the left over pizza you've neglected, and drink the dregs of alcohol.
But seriously, where does this pretending to be something you are obviously not and expecting to be respected for it end? If I want to be a cockroach, but can't fit under your fridge, then should you be obligated to build me a human size bunker there and let me stay in your home? Letting me believe I'm a cockroach, and expecting others to accommodate my cockroach-hood are two separate matters.
If you can gender self-identify, nothing wrong in racially self-identifying
You nailed a major cultural issue in about 17 minutes. Jordan Peterson is still rambling on. Nice job, Dr G👍🏼
If Dr Grande is up to discuss this hot topic, i hope it won't be long to discuss the topic of transgender identified teenage girls and their very common detransition. sometimes with lifetime loss of their voice, fertility or body parts.
And the comparison to other social contagious states of minds and other medical scandals. It needs doctors who ignore their oath to do no harm and cut off pubescent peoples breasts and prescribe hormones that lead to osteoporosis.
I think he will discuss it when one of those quack doctors get sued beyond oblivion and becomes a hot topic. Just to clarify, I support trans people but grifters targeting kids is a different issue
@@iihh517 prepubescent kids are not operated on
@@Catlily5 ....and? I'm sorry but you're not too bright and it's best if you stop commenting online because you only serve to annoy others with your silly comments.
@@iihh517 Apparently you are not to bright if you don't understand my comment. Maybe you should get offline.
@@Catlily5 dude, no one was talking about surgery. Adults refer to teens as kids too. You are simply parroting things without understanding the meaning behind it. You are a silly parrot, back off. People don’t want to hear from you.
What an amazing analysis of this controversial woman.
Well done ,Dr. Grande.
Your portrayal of Rachel Dolezal's young life clearly shows where her race changing ideal came from.
Her parents burned it into her psyche at a very young age.
When her parents adopted the four black children ,it is clear ,that it completely changed her view of her own self worth.
Rachel disappeared within the family dynamic.
The four black children were showered with love and care while Rachel was left ignored ,assumed by her parents , that she could raise herself just fine.
Rachel loved her new family members and they loved her back but her parents simply , intentionally ,moved far into the background in her life.
This fact made Rachel feel as though being white was a major handicap in her life.
A handicap she was determined to change as she got older.
To Rachel's credit, although she did potentially construct incidents to help raise herself up into the black establishment, it is also said that Rachel did try to do good work to help black people in America.
What a profoundly scary way to live.
With a self worth system inside you telling you , only if you look this way, you have validity in the world.
Thanks Mom, Thanks Dad.
Rachel, God bless you and be strong.
The person in the mirror is beautiful no matter the color skin she has.
THIS WAS EXPLOSIVE!! 👏👏👏👏
What a fantastic video Dr. Grande!
🙌✨🙌 BRAVO! 🙌✨🙌
As a black woman this lady irritates my soul.
your jokes lighten my day!
Thank You Doc. After going through her history you can see the dishonesty. Cautioning her brother not to blow her cover!
Race is not a costume, but it was for her.
There are thousands of transgender people living "stealth" who for sure also had to ask people who knew them longer not to blow their cover. ;)
She could have dodged a lot of grief if she had claimed she was trans-Rachel instead of trans-racial.
LMAO
one could argue that it is also deceptive when transgender individuals make an effort to hide their biological gender when pursuing sports. The non-disclosure debate, shouldn't their league be able to at least know the history? We could take it further. If Rachel was deceptive for telling her brother (not to blow her cover) wouldn't this parallel a Transgender person signing up for a dating app to date people of their original gender only for one of their straight dates to find out and the trans person then asking for their straight date to not (blow their cover) to future dates?(with other people who don't know) Would you find it deceptive to go on a date only to discover your date was trans? Thenafter confronting them they admit theyre trans but ask you to keep it secret as to not infringe on their potential to have a success with future date with new people they meet
Well,considering the extremely high rate of hate crimes against transgender people, do they really even have a choice?
The only problem is that as a grad student at Howard University, she sued Howard for discriminating against her for being white, saying that her artwork was not included in an exhibit based on her white race. She may have sincerely convinced herself of certain things, such as "racial construct" but that doesn't make those things true. It just means she needs help sorting things out in her mind.
Physicists say that both time and space are social constructs of this world. Tell your boss that and try and keep your job.
Identifying as a different race is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as identifying as a different sex.
I hope this is not too arch, but I think she needs to toe the line regarding trans issues. She really stepped in it by claiming to be something other than white, but - to her credit - instead of running away like a callous individual, she shoehorned her peculiar sense of identity into the public forum. Her Achilles' heel is her level of deception.
I see what you did there 😂
What about net worth fluidity?
I personally identify as a billionaire. And my net worth not matching my identity is causing me so much dysphoria.
Oh no, you too!
@@PrimericanIdol 👍😂😂😂
@@PrimericanIdol I feel you. I think my pompous 10 yr old is transroyal. Hoping he can claim the title of HRH soon 👸
I live in Spokane WA and remember this. Locally the problem seems to be that she lied and took steps to decieve. Similar to a public official posting false education/credentials to get a job. It was a huge embarrassment.
Love the feet references! Haha
Most of the woke community likes to defend one, and decry the other, despite both being rooted in the same logic.
Happy Saturday from the east coast of FL! 🌞 always love me some Dr. Grande
One of your most articulate and thoughtful presentations.
Okay after watching Dr Grande's analysis - I think I have decided that I'm going to be "transfinancial" from here on out. I'm broke, but I actually feel like I'm supposed to be really rich on the inside. * holds hands out and waits for money to fall from sky *
Hey I like this idea!
@@AnaLucia-wy2ii bit late for that I'm afraid. Already some rumblings of that exactly where you would expect to see it... (among the types Chris Hansen liked to ask to have a seat)
That's actually the beginning of how to actually get rich.
Dr Grande, have you heard about the white woman, Sandra Laing of Piet Retief, South Africa who was born to a white South African couple but looked black, and identified as black even though the DNA tests proved that she was their biological child? She FELT like a black woman, married a black man and had black children and yet DNA tests said she was white but she didn't feel that in her soul. I think this might have been the same feeling with Rachel after they adopted her black siblings, she identified with them and slowly, her soul FELT like she was black. Let Rachel be who she wants to be, this is a free world and anybody can be whoever they want to be. Let's focus on all the good things that Rachel did for the black community and just let her live in peace 🙏🙏🙏
@@ratbeach She was definitely part black unlike Rachel. She couldn't pass as white either.
Great commentary on transracial identity vs transgender identity. I asked the same type of questions when I see people complain about “blackfishing”
It doesn't make sense, because a black person or a non white person o would never get away with being white and benefitting from a racist society. If you're transphobic and racist, just say so.
Oooh El Grande your delivery is sooo cool. I’m mesmerized.
Respect for the work ethic.
Always enjoying the new analysis.
Great analysis, and I agree with you. You did make many excellent points, some I’d thought of, some I hadn’t. Thank you. 😊
It seems like it might be easy to mistake the true black experience for shallow stereotypes associated with black culture, especially as shown on tv, movies, and other media, or contrived political narratives. Idk about it. I guess it's not my place to weigh in, but I have concerns for her children.
Would be very interested as to what those concerns might be??
It’s really refreshing seeing smart white people. Not to mention she wasn’t trying to be black she’s trying to be mixed race and ppl in the black community all know how mixed and lighter skinned black people have privilege. I am black and white btw, so I am fully aware of my privilege and recognize I have a different experience from fully black women. She wanted a different type of privilege I feel.
I felt bad for her kids too.
It's "really refreshing to see smart white people"?! What if someone said, " It's really refreshing to see smart black people"? That would be racist, right? Of course it would.
If you really meant, "It's really refreshing to see white people who understand the nuances of race," then you should have written that. Because what you typed sounds extremely bigoted.
@@detectivefiction3701 I’m half white half black i can say wtf I want to. I’m not a bigot I came out a white vagina and raised by mostly white people so I first hand have been dealing with the white ignorance my whole life. Bye mr nigga.
I can’t see how a transgender person could say they could go on living the way they want and this woman can’t go on living the way she wants. In a broad generalization they’re both just two things that want to be something that they’re not. I say let her be black
Also I wonder if she has a flat pancake white lady butt
Agreed
Her lying to everyone hurt her more than helped
It’s difficult for me to picture someone saying. Omg I’m so hurt, I thought you were black.
I agree. Let her life as she pleases. Of course she couldn't go on lying and keeping that job she had though. That wasn't okay. She took that too far. But I don't care if she wants to live her life as a black woman.
Your puns never fail to make me chuckle. Thank you for all the work you do!
She committed the Cardinal Sin of Social Workers, she lied on her paperwork....
The foot jokes are great. The way you deliver them so deadpan is absolutely perfect.
Bravo Doc!
Also the earth is flat. Look in to it. It'll blow your fuckin mind, Doc.
It's so funny to me when I heard her story, she said that when she was a child she colored pictures of herself with a brown crayon, yet, when she wanted to go to school at a black University ,she claimed discrimination when they didn't want to let her in ,saying that they were discriminating against white folks. I feel like this fascination with Black Culture started for her ,when her sons were born ,I think she was trying to find a way to bond with them. But aside from all that ,she is a fantastic artist. Really very talented!
But transgender beliefs are similar to transracial, that if a person feels different to what their body is, then their feelings are correct. And how do you know she wasn't discriminated against at a black majority uni for having too light a skin tone?
I've heard racist rhetoric from people of dark skin tones too, and it is also true that some African Albinos, or just people from a darker skinned ethnicity, can have paler than normal skin, and report that they are not given the same level of respect as darker skinned people from same culture or ethnicity. I met an indigenous women like that in Australia.
Am I stating the obvious if I say that that's CLEARLY a white woman who got braids and too much self tan? I mean seriously, who could fall for that??
Tropic Thunder treatment
Desperate blks who want to claim Anything but BLK. You’d be surprised how many BLK folks want to believe the average BLK woman looks just like Racheal
TL;DR one drop rule.
It's because the US still follows the One Drop Rule (although it's no longer enforced) which deems anyone as nonwhite if they have any drop of nonwhite ancestry. Since this rule has been in practice, any slight hint of a nonwhite feature gets someone catergorized as the other. Black African descent people in other countries are puzzled as to why Megan Markle and Obama are classified as black in the US when they are in fact mixed and have more Euro ancestry than they do Afro. I say this as a mixed person myself with black family members overseas who have expressed such thoughts.
@@Mili-bedili Thanks for your answer! I'm European and I had never heard of this One Drop Rule before.
@A B 'One drop rule' is a threat, an ideology. It's racism expressed in different ways where there very recently were Justice Of Peace who would not perform marriages for interracial couples, and to this day pastors that won't, and parents telling children they can't date other races.
When there was slavery in the US being black meant: to an 1/8th... but a persons who were 1/16 were not? Maybe included 1/16th. Which is incredible because I know people 1/4 black who look very Caucasian European white and so I don't know how they managed this segregation that would require family ancestry identification... so it was unspoken and largely unenforceable once someone was visually 'passing'
I am half white and Puerto Rican and Native but look white enough to be treated white everywhere.
For someone to be enforced upon for 'a drop' is what? A nameless ancestor? Do you know your great great great grandmother's name
I was thinking about this, and ask family about this. Glad to see you have the guts to speak on it
I remember seeing this astonishing story in the news and appreciate you addressing this issue.
My same thoughts a long time ago. My father is a black man who can easily pass as white. At what point does your skin color qualify you to a race I.D. His culture is African American. Mine is too. Males can say they’re female and females can say they’re male. But try to ID to another race. Oh nooo.
I have always wondered what people thought of each other before mirrors? Where people as insecure then as now ?
Thanks again Dr.Grande for great topics.
Great question.
JMO but I believe all this is first world problems, I think back then people were struggling to literally survive day to day, they didn't have the luxury of time on their hands to be self introspective.
Before mirrors you could still see your reflection in the water, for example. But this is still an interesting thought
@@Casinogirl56 Agreed! I live in a 3rd world country and we're importing all those issues here. It's tough to see young people confused about gender and race, while they still struggle to have proper meals everyday.
@@nono-gw7qm Natural selection says unless you could pull off being forceful, mating was just denied in the 10 yrs of adulthood you had
Thank you Dr Grande for a sensitive and unbiased analysis. Brilliant analysis and informative topic. Thank you Dr Grande, you are the best.
I love these videos of yours Dr. Grande. Your analysis on complex topics is top notch. However, my absolute favorite videos of yours are the case analysis where you read case reports of psych patients. Please do more of those!!
Being a woman is a lived experience as well but women are socialized to try and accept others. I’ve been physically threatened for saying nothing more than the above so now my sympathy has run out.
I know what you mean.
Good analysis, thank you Dr. Grande! 😊
Can you analyze people who claim to be transabled?
Thank you 😘
I was just thinking about this. My close friend has spina bifida and uses a wheelchair out in public as his legs cause him pain when he walks. He can walk and does walk when he's at home, but the long distances when he does some shopping or whatever means he takes a wheelchair on long journeys. I've seen people look shocked when he stands up from his chair to be able to reach the ATM machine, as if they think he's an imposter or something. I guess it boils down to "how can you truly know if someone is who they say they are, and do we want to go down the route of policing these things or do we want to take the stance of live and let live?"
Interesting. 🤔
That one's interesting to me because there is actually a mental disorder called body integrity dysphoria which as a person who has experienced gender dysphoria actually sounds somewhat similar? Basically to my understanding the person will feel that a certain body part isn't supposed to be there, it feels foreign to them and causes them intense discomfort. From what i've seen it's thought to be that the brain's mental map of the body is different than what actually exists. And people will go to extreme lengths sometimes to self injure themselves and get rid of that part. And from what I've seen from the little bit that I've researched removing the body part does actually relieve the discomfort the person feels.
And that's kind of how I feel with gender dysphoria. The sex characteristics of my body feel like they aren't supposed to be there. my brain's idea of how my body should be is different than how it actually is. even if we lived in a society where none of the social aspects of gender existed and there were no social expectations placed on you associated with your sex I believe I would still feel this discomfort. And some trans people do get to a point where they will self injure themselves in order to relieve themselves of dysphoria if they don't have access to safe surgeries. I have not gotten to that point, but it's still pretty debilitating.
idk what you mean by "transabled" bc i know some people will also be malingering and that could be completely different, but body integrity dysphoria is something i've been super intrigued by due to those possible parallels
We live in an age where anyone can claim they're anything. Time to re-read "The Emperor's New Clothes."
This video is why Dr Grande needs to have TEN MILLION SUBSCRIBERS!!!
I think she isn't pleased about morphing into a troll doll of any colour, she turns on the TV, sees Oprah or Ellen and thinks, why isn't my thyroid imbalance making me a national icon?