What does Yaki Da mean? In Welsh, the way to say Cheers! is Iechyd da! (It is sometimes anglicised to Yaki da! or Yaki dah! but these spellings are incorrect.) As in English, it is said when you raise a glass to toast another person, or when you clink glasses with a group of friends in celebration.
How fun that you got to go to Wales. Have you ever watch Gavin and Stacey. It is about a couple who are Welch and English. Like his parents. It is so funny. You should watch it.
I love a lot of Welsh people too ;-) Most importantly my hubby (over 50% Welsh). I don't like watching back most of my videos... kind of painful . But this one I enjoy watching because it's so fun. My 11 year old teacher makes me laugh!
Good for you, Dara, for having a go at unpronouncable Welsh, and respect to Joe for his dead-pan patience! Now....how do you pronounce the Welsh place name Dduallt...? Now...have a go at Cornish 😁
Nope, not having a go at Cornish. I remember those road signs, and it looked just as tricky as Welsh! Joe was hilarious... he was taking his job of tutoring me VERY seriously, bless him! He was given a rather hopeless student, and I admire his willingness to be filmed doing this lesson! haha
Joe is priceless -- what a neat kid, going along with "Crazy American Cousin Dara"!! 🤣Thank you for all the enjoyment (and education!) from this video, Dara. Loved it!! 👍
Dara, well done. I’ve lived here in Wales for 70 years and still make mistakes. My Nephew from N. Wales, Bala, is a native Welsh speaker, he tells me off. When I worked in the local BT Telephone Exchange, a big 2 floor building with loads of BT vans outside, we’d daily get delivery vans and semi’s calling in for directions, some drivers attempts were priceless, if they brought their delivery slip it would be easy! Looking forward to your Welsh food video, thinking of Lava Bread, Welsh Cakes, Cawl, Bara Brith and Faggots & Peas. Time for tea/dinner.
Thanks so much for watching! I am excited about my Wales series. I hate editing, but these have been some fun videos to edit because I enjoyed watching the footage again! As for the Welsh Food tasting: I managed a few of those foods... but need to return to Wales soon to finish the list!! Cheers! XX Dara
Really enjoyed that, very well explained and Joe did brilliantly! The buzzer was brutal lol 😆 great premiere, happy Friday all! Diolch yn fawr, Ceri and Kat ☕ ❤ 👍 🥰
Hi Magenta This video is so interesting and entertaining.. I love the rapport of you and little Joe, what a smart little character he is… I am Australian but my grandparents were welsch.. I didn’t learn much about their language, it’s interesting to me how different so much is.. And that there is no x,z or K in the welsh alphabet.. You have beautiful energy I look forward to more from you 💎💕💥
Hello Sharon! Very nice to hear from you. Welsh is a beautiful language to listen to, but very tricky for me to speak! I appreciate Joe being a good sport and attempting to teach me 🤣. This is the first video in my eight part video series about Wales. I hope you are able to enjoy some of the other videos.❤️ Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment. Cheers!XX Dara
As a native of Abertawe I can say that you were judged very harshly. You did really well and deserve more points. I hope you enjoyed your visit to Wales and had a chance to get to a few more places beside Llangranog.
Yes, we were able to visit lovely Pembrokeshire and see some amazing places. My Wales series has 8 videos (each Friday) and there is some golden stuff coming... including me trying Welsh food, and a few gems in Pembrokeshire that you might not have seen before. Thanks SO MUCH for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. I hope you have joined the Magenta Otter Tribe. You would be most welcome. And I've loved the name Gareth... what a lovely Welsh name. Now that we've discovered Ian is over half Welsh I think we need to get our son Weston to name one of his sons Gareth ;-) haha As for Abertawe... now that I said it 5 ways that Joe said were all wrong I've no clue how to actually say it! Cheers! XX Dara
That has to be your funniest one yet Joe was a star how he didn't fall about laughing was great. Its strange how many places across the UK have names that are differently said as opposed to the spelling. Masham in Yorkshire is one, pronounced Mass ham, you could have asked Joe about microwave and increased your Welsh language skills further.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! I didn’t realise until I was editing the video how very serious Joe was! I think appearing on his American cousin’s RUclips channel was a bit intimidating and he wanted to do a very good job 😉. Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. Cheers! XX Dara
Loved learning Welsh in 10 minutes! We'll grade you on a curve. I'm sure none of us would have gotten any right so 3 out of 10 makes you the Valedictorian!
Loved it!! It’s such a bizarre alphabet, but once you know it, its a lot easier to pronounce words as there aren’t all the weird rules of English!! Well done 🍻
yeah, I'm not convinced. After "learning" the alphabet, I did even worse. I think I'm a lost cause! But I do love hearing other people speak the language!! I was just editing my Cardiff video, and it was funny how I made my friend Imo pronounce things in Welsh for me. I'm not good at trilling any letters... why I am rubbish at speaking Spanish, which is the only language I know *a bit* other than English!
I was on a bus in Mid Wales, telling the driver I was going to Llandinam . He looked puzzled asking me to repeat it, I did but it didn't help. A passenger sitting close by laughed and suggested I pronounce as it would be in English since he didn't understand.
So the bus driver did not speak Welsh? I think that must be tricky, understanding who does and doesn't speak it in the country! Thanks for watching! Cheers! XX Dara
@@MagentaOtterTravels . The buses were based in England, many drivers would be English, he was probably new on the route and hadn't learned the place names properly.
I've lived in Wales for 14 years and am still tripped up with some place names, plus I have the advantage of speaking Afrikaans which has some similar sounds to Welsh that aren't found in the English language, so for an English speaker you did very well. Aberystwyth is one I like to hear the English try to pronounce, plus another local town, Eglwyswrw. Once you think you have mastered Welsh, take a trip up to north Wales where they pronounce it all different and learn it all over again ;-) I think Joe would score you less than you scored yourself but he's too nice ;-)
@@MagentaOtterTravels Howzit, Ian :-) Isn't Spanish a kind of a second language in USA? Is it taught in schools at all, like French is taught in UK schools? My daughter went to a Welsh school so she speaks Welsh well but doesn't use it outside school. I never hear Welsh spoken around here (Haverfordwest area) but do when going further up the coast towards, and into, Ceredigion.
@@Electrowave oh, I do hope you watch the upcoming videos! A couple are in Ceredigion and I even have a video of us stopping into Haverford West! Here in Texas, Spanish is definitely the most popular foreign language taught in schools. French is usually available as well. In other US areas German is also offered or Chinese.
@@MagentaOtterTravels I will be watching your videos, especially as they are of the local area where I live! I love your videos, and when you compare things between UK and USA. Haverfordwest is one word, or in Welsh it is Hwlffordd, but a lot of the locals pronounce it in a mixture of the two that sounds something like Harford. I also used to think it was two words before I moved here :-)
My vrou is nie rigtig nie. My Afrikaans het baie versleg. Ek kaan dit nie onthou nie want dit was te lank terug en ek het die taal vergeet. Ek het von '85 - '87 in die Transvaal gebly. Lank terug! En nou ek studeer Duits so Afrikaans ist baie mooilik vir my.
Hehe Dara I loved that . It is so funny hearing non welsh speakers trying to pronounce Welsh . Got to say though that even non welsh speaking Welsh people struggle with the language . You did um... ahem ... quite well though 😃 I enjoyed your laughing at it 😄👏😄👏😄💕
No need to try to preserve me ego, Anna. I was RUBBISH! But I think I get points for giving it a go, and for at least being rather entertaining along the way. But my pronunciation is truly awful. Thanks so much for watching! I enjoy hearing YOU speak Welsh beautifully!! Cheers! XX Dara
I imagine that when you get the hang of the special sounds that certain letters make, Welsh is more consistent with its pronunciations than English? Is that so? I'm guessing with extra practice you're now almost fluent, Dara! 😉😂
I honestly think I’ve gotten even worse! My mouth is not good at making those different sounds. I’m rather a hopeless case… Not to mention I’m so American, I can’t stop saying the word gotten! Lol
Blimey Dara! If you think Welsh is a bit... taxing, go 'round the corner and down a bit' and have a go at....... CORNISH. There are only about 5-600 people left who speak it as their first language - so you might actually be saving it! I (pathetically) tried to have a go at Cornish in a pub near Truro (Malpas, to be precise) when I was about 15 (1976!) and failed even more miserably at that, than you managed with Welsh! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And I've been to Llangranog too! Beautiful little place which was like stepping back into the 1940s. I went there when my eldest son was about a year old (he's nearly 31 now)
Oh yes, I have seen the Cornish language on the signs in Cornwall and I am 100% certain that I would not stand a chance speaking or understanding that language! 🤪 As for Llangrannog, that video is a week from Friday. Ian got some lovely drone photography, so I hope you enjoy the video and it brings back some nice memories ❤️🏴 Thanks for watching my crazy video and taking the time to leave a comment! Cheers! XX Dara
Yes your Welsh relatives, ask her about cawl a very old Welsh dish, you named the name of my village in your learning how to speak Welsh video, sorry to say you failed lol but thanks for trying.
Joe did well. I get a failing grade!!! Thanks for joining the premiere! BTW, I spoke to Nick and Jill last week and they mentioned you. I'll go check out your channel this weekend. Though I don't want to sub today if you just subbed to me... I hate when YT cancels out subs like that! We need ALL our subs to count ;-)
@@MagentaOtterTravels we only just subbed, I didn’t realise that RUclips did that…but it certainly does explain a mystery that we’ve experienced and couldn’t understand why 👌😍 Thank you Cassie and Derren
Hello, I've watched your videos must say inspiration positive funny family friendly I've subscribed. You should work for the British tourist board do a better job all split in to 4 welsh tourist board you be amazing at it. Your knowledge of history diff cultures here is astonishing I know more tho lol, well presented and spoken with music and well spoken in a kind respective manner with scenery and nature your job apply for British tourist board. I can speak English in high equity or depending on who im with where I am will naturally use saying n phrases so meaningfull and tend to talk a lot of slang lol.. I can speak welsh and understand what words places mean the terminology etc, as born grew up in South Wales welsh language surrounds us, had welsh classes in school ( my fav subject ) but was English school not welsh speaking.. Since January this year I been doing a online course named Duolingo so much fun they have apps with a great community do quizes etc get points to learn welsh fluently im on intermediate level putting sentences together etc which originally learnt in school. Obviously I know all greeting bye phrases words in welsh so much fun. Today me my parents my older brother my son my girlfriend going to Pendine sands Carmarthenshire for 5 days a small haven caravan park there, reminds me of childhood early teen years in the magical 1980s traditional UK holiday caravan parks Best memories tho. Your channel others to positive vibes on Britain where I born ( Wales ) grew up made me realise we tend to take for granted im very much love nature n chill. Im quiet natured but can ramble so sorry. I have so many recommendations to visit in UK but be a long list tho. Im lucky to live by coastal seaside town porthcawl the historic cynffig villages surround kind of centrel for me inbetween Swansea Cardiff M4 right by London 2 n half train ride away etc. Love London to visit been loads football matches to but won't like to live there. Have a wonderful time in UK you should try live permeability experience autumn winter I dont moan about weather use to it lol it so changeable unreal if it rains who cares a saying here - Keep calm and carry on make best of your da. So excited Pendine sands with family n girlfriend leaving soon woohoo... Keep up the positive well presented videos nice one n cheers . Kind regards..... Gareth.... x
Oh wow, some of these stuff are impossible :d and I thought Hungarian can give a headache with length of words (and surely it does) but Wales have their fair competitors :D Good job though! :)
V and J don't exist in the Welsh alphabet despite Jones being a common Welsh surname! Watch out for orthographical changes eg M can become F, C can become G. C is never pronounced as S. I'm English and can't speak Welsh but have been to Wales many times and picked up on some of the language. I hope!
Yeah, the alphabet is a mystery, and the changing sounds of the letters is beyond my abilities... and the whole J not being a letter with Jones being the most common surname... mind blown! haha
@@jinxvrs serious question: what about the very common Welsh surnames of Jones and Jenkins (The latter being the name of many of my husband Ian‘s Welsh ancestors)?
@@MagentaOtterTravels They are either anglicised from the original Welsh or more commonly adopted from English (or in reality Norman French) following the conquest of Wales. Oddly, "J" was not (in)formally added to the alphabet until the 20th century. The "s" at the end of Jones & Jenkins is a shortened form of "Son of". Interestingly, Jenkins would appear to be of Dutch / Flemish origin as Jankin. However in the Welsh language, "son of" would have been "ap" or "ab" as in Llywelyn ap Rhys. When surnames were mandated, "Ap Rhys", became the surname and due to poor literacy, could be written as (get ready) Price, Pryce, Preece, Rice, Rees or Reece. Other names had the same fait - Hywel became Powell or Howell, Iorwerth became Yorath, Owain became Owen or Bowen, Caradoc became Craddock.
@@MagentaOtterTravels No sadly being born and bred in Wales in the 60s. To English speaking parents Welsh was not taught or given the same significance as it is now at Schools. Thankfully that as all changed. Changing the subject. I recommend Swansea Market for you to visit for traditional Welsh food. Cockles, lava bread Rissoles, and Welsh cakes made there are just some of the fine things sold there. Keep up the great videos. 👍
@@markjones9693 thanks for that. We will add Swansea market to the list. Even though I spent a significant portion of my childhood in the area around Ammanford, I don't recall ever visiting the Swansea market. Of course this was in the 70's and early 80's and things were very different back then.
@@ians3586 . Did you ever visit Carreg Cennen castle ? Not to far from Ammanford in the Black Mountains. If you visit Swansea market you could add to your intinery Mumbles and Oystermouth along the coast . Visit Joes Ice cream parlour . It’s a locally made ice cream and always a crowd waiting to get in . That’s how good it is. Moving down to Mumbles the listed and protected Apple . A shop made in the shape of an apple built in the 1920s and the pier , lighthouse . Well keep up the excellent videos. I have visited a few places based on watching your videos .
@@markjones9693 thank you for those excellent suggestions. I have visited Carreg Cennen many times. My mum lived in the countryside north of Llandybie so it was just a short drive away. It was the source of a lot of good memories as a child but I have visited in recent years also.
When did they add J to the welsh alphabet? lol, they must have sneaked that one in very recently. It must be an anglicisation thing, because of so many Christian names with a J, like Joe, Joseph, James, John, Jesus etc, they must have thought, what’s one more letter to the alphabet. So even I have learnt something from this video, lol, not sure how I feel about it. Ok so a question to the welsh speakers who have been taught with a J, do you still spell names like Ioan with an I or do you now spell it with a J? And do you spell fridge the English way or do you spell it in an Welsh way but with a J now it’s part of the Welsh alphabet say Ffrij? Or do you just use the welsh word oergell/oergelloedd?
I have no idea about the J! But I'm just glad you watched my silly video ;-) Sorry it took me nearly a year to publish the bloody thing! Have a great weekend, Dafydd! Cheers! XX Dara
@@MagentaOtterTravels I gave it a quick watch but was in a busy loud place at the time so didn’t really take it in too much. I just watched it again properly, you did pretty well, not too shabby, it’s difficult to get the sounds like ll, ng, rh etc because they aren’t really sounds used in English, they require mouth and tongue techniques that are difficult like rolling the R or H, sounds that are often exaggerated when you see the stereotypical impressions, lol The other thing that can make it difficult is that some letters, especially the vowels, can have multiple sounds depending on where they are in a word, lol Like Cymry for example, the welsh word for welsh (people) Cymry has 2 syllables so the y of the last syllable is different. C is a K in English, welsh don’t use it like an S sound like in lace. Lace to a welsh person would be pronounced like Lake in English. Ch, there isn’t an English equivalent sound, it is like the X in Mexico if you are saying it like a Mexican. Dd is like th from thus Th is like th from thank But like I said, you did pretty well, there was times when it sounded like you were having a stroke trying to pronounce the longest place name, lol, but it was as good an attempt I have heard in a long time
@@Penddraig7 I was having a stroke! 🤪 The biggest problem is that I am not good at making those different sounds. I could never pronounce the G sound when I was living in the Netherlands and needed to say Dutch things and even though I learned Spanish in school, I could never trill the rr’s…. I’m not cut out to properly speak Welsh I’m afraid 🤣
Joe is a very good teacher, but maybe he's a little bit strict. I thought many of your pronunciations were fine! I think you have to learn how to pronounce the words first before trying to pronounce them! (speaking as a language teacher with decades of experience!) Welsh pronunciation is much easier than English as the spelling is almost 100% regular. The Llanfair... place name is best split up into its constituent words, but I've never seen anyone do that! It's great that you tried to speak the Welsh language, which is an irreplaceable and ever-fascinating asset of Wales.
I agree with you about the Welsh language being a precious resource that needs to be preserved ❤️🏴. As for me, I’ll tell you my problem… as a polyglot who also has done language instruction for so long you will understand. I’m one of those people that has trouble getting my mouth to make the strange sounds that are not common to American English. I was OK at learning Spanish, I just could not trill my RR. In the Netherlands I always had trouble correctly pronouncing the G and GG in Dutch. And in Welsh, there are several sounds my mouth just doesn’t make correctly. And when I attempt to pronounce anything in French it’s pretty horrific! 🤪 #hopeless #lostcause
@@MagentaOtterTravels Being an Anglophile I didn't think you would have to look it up!! I'll get you interested in the great game. What more could you want, a game that can last 5days with regular tea breaks (including cheese sandwiches) and still end up as a draw/tie. Surely you have your wireless tuned to the BBC World Service and the Test Match Special programme when England are playing?.
The nuances of how to make that sound can be tricky! Especially for an American like me. As you will see in the video, I was not super successful with it 🤣
I swear Americsns cannot hear sounds. P and ph sound completrly different. Welsh is very easy compared to English, because the rules stay the same for everything.
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch translates as St Mary’s Church in the Hollow of the White Hazel Near to the Rapid Whirlpool of Llantysilio of the Red Cave
@@MagentaOtterTravels It's also totally made up as a publicity stunt. The village was always Llanfairpwllgwyrngyll (Or just Llanfair PG) to the locals.
Probably be easier if you break it down into it component words: Llanfair pwllgwyrngyll go ger y chwryn drobwll llan tysilio gogogoch. Church of St Mary-pool of white hazels-near the wild whirlpool - (and) the Church of Tsylio - of the red caves...Thusly: TLahn-vair-puTL-guirn-guTL-go-ger-i-xhurin-dro-buTL-TLahn-ti-silio-go-go-goxh. with TL being the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative LL and xh being the uvular fricative CH
What does Yaki Da mean?
In Welsh, the way to say Cheers!
is Iechyd da! (It is sometimes anglicised to Yaki da! or Yaki dah! but
these spellings are incorrect.) As in English, it is said when you raise
a glass to toast another person, or when you clink glasses with a group
of friends in celebration.
Simply "Good health"
@@jinxvrs same as ¡Salud! in Spanish or L’chaim in Hebrew 😉… interesting to see how cultures around the world have adopted this as a “cheers” saying!
Thanks for your comment! I didn’t know that 😉❤️🏴
XX Dara
Easy peasy! Haha! Many thanks to Joe for helping us out today 🏴
Well, it was NOT easy, was it?! Haha... Joe is a rockstar. I appreciate him going along with his crazy American cousin's wishes to do this video!
Okay, no hope for us! Can we hire Joe as a translator when we travel there? He's awesome!
He was such a good sport! He really took this job seriously ;-) Unfortunately, I was a hopeless case as a student! LOL
I love it! Especially how serious he is 😂 but I still have no idea what these mean :-)
Thanks for watching, Liz! Joe did take his job very seriously... too bad he didn't have a better student! LOL
Thanks for sharing this video! Always believe in yourself and keep doing what you love to do!❤😊👍
What a fun language lesson. You're basically fluent now!
Yeahhhhh... no. But it was fun to try! Hey, Ian just asked yesterday why he hadn't seen any of your videos lately. When is your next one coming?
@@MagentaOtterTravels Tell Ian, we're back this month!
@@WITYTRAVELS 🙌🙌🙌
Great job Joe! I need to back up the truck several times to get these! Great video Dara! ~Cara 😊
Haha, thanks for watching. Yes, this language is TRICKY!!
How fun that you got to go to Wales. Have you ever watch Gavin and Stacey. It is about a couple who are Welch and English. Like his parents. It is so funny. You should watch it.
Yes! Funny show! James Corden stars in that, right?
Thanks so much for watching my crazy video! Cheers! XX Dara
Welsh not Welch
Welsh is not easy even if you're used to British English and for us Americans it's really hard.
You did pretty good Dara.
I did lousy, but at least I hope to have provided a few laughs at my expense! haha
Can't wait for this one! We still can't even pronounce Ioan Gruffudd, and we love that guy.
I love a lot of Welsh people too ;-) Most importantly my hubby (over 50% Welsh). I don't like watching back most of my videos... kind of painful . But this one I enjoy watching because it's so fun. My 11 year old teacher makes me laugh!
Oh man! Love that guy. The Hornblower series is definitely part of my Anglophile origin story!
Nicely done Dara and Joe!
Thanks, Susan! Have a great weekend!
Good for you, Dara, for having a go at unpronouncable Welsh, and respect to Joe for his dead-pan patience! Now....how do you pronounce the Welsh place name Dduallt...?
Now...have a go at Cornish 😁
Nope, not having a go at Cornish. I remember those road signs, and it looked just as tricky as Welsh! Joe was hilarious... he was taking his job of tutoring me VERY seriously, bless him! He was given a rather hopeless student, and I admire his willingness to be filmed doing this lesson! haha
Looking forward to it. See you tomorrow.
Thanks, my friends!
With so many high scoring letters missing, scrabble must be challenging 😉
Another astute observation ;-)
Love this!! Funny, interesting, and educational! What’s not to love!❤️
Thanks, love! It’s only educational if you learn not to say anything the way I did! Lol
Fun.
Thanks for watching! Too bad I was such a bad student...
That buzzer was rather brutal, LOL!!!
I deserved it! I was rubbish
Neath sounds English because the Welsh name for Neath is Castell Nedd
Joe is priceless -- what a neat kid, going along with "Crazy American Cousin Dara"!! 🤣Thank you for all the enjoyment (and education!) from this video, Dara. Loved it!! 👍
Thanks, Bobby! Joe was SO nice to attempt this lesson. Unfortunately, there was no hope for me!!
Oh, I think you did your very best, Dara!! 🥰
Great video, lots of fun, Joe was a good teacher and very patient with you! ♥️
Joe was GREAT! I was a HOT MESS!
Dara, well done. I’ve lived here in Wales for 70 years and still make mistakes. My Nephew from N. Wales, Bala, is a native Welsh speaker, he tells me off. When I worked in the local BT Telephone Exchange, a big 2 floor building with loads of BT vans outside, we’d daily get delivery vans and semi’s calling in for directions, some drivers attempts were priceless, if they brought their delivery slip it would be easy! Looking forward to your Welsh food video, thinking of Lava Bread, Welsh Cakes, Cawl, Bara Brith and Faggots & Peas. Time for tea/dinner.
Thanks so much for watching! I am excited about my Wales series. I hate editing, but these have been some fun videos to edit because I enjoyed watching the footage again!
As for the Welsh Food tasting: I managed a few of those foods... but need to return to Wales soon to finish the list!!
Cheers! XX Dara
When you were saying that long place name, you sounded like Dory from Finding Nemo speaking Whale 🐋 🤣
YES!!!!! Excellent observation!!!
@@MagentaOtterTravels Don't feel bad, Joe messed up Llanfair PG as well. :)
Really enjoyed that, very well explained and Joe did brilliantly! The buzzer was brutal lol 😆 great premiere, happy Friday all! Diolch yn fawr, Ceri and Kat ☕ ❤ 👍 🥰
Diolch yn fawr iawn! Really lovely to see you in the premiere, Ceri and Kat!
Hi Magenta
This video is so interesting and entertaining..
I love the rapport of you and little Joe, what a smart little character he is…
I am Australian but my grandparents were welsch..
I didn’t learn much about their language, it’s interesting to me how different so much is..
And that there is no x,z or K in the welsh alphabet..
You have beautiful energy I look forward to more from you 💎💕💥
Hello Sharon! Very nice to hear from you. Welsh is a beautiful language to listen to, but very tricky for me to speak! I appreciate Joe being a good sport and attempting to teach me 🤣.
This is the first video in my eight part video series about Wales. I hope you are able to enjoy some of the other videos.❤️
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment. Cheers!XX Dara
As a native of Abertawe I can say that you were judged very harshly. You did really well and deserve more points. I hope you enjoyed your visit to Wales and had a chance to get to a few more places beside Llangranog.
Yes, we were able to visit lovely Pembrokeshire and see some amazing places. My Wales series has 8 videos (each Friday) and there is some golden stuff coming... including me trying Welsh food, and a few gems in Pembrokeshire that you might not have seen before. Thanks SO MUCH for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. I hope you have joined the Magenta Otter Tribe. You would be most welcome. And I've loved the name Gareth... what a lovely Welsh name. Now that we've discovered Ian is over half Welsh I think we need to get our son Weston to name one of his sons Gareth ;-) haha
As for Abertawe... now that I said it 5 ways that Joe said were all wrong I've no clue how to actually say it! Cheers! XX Dara
I saw a video where a weatherman correctly pronounces the ridiculously long name of some Welsh town. It was wild!
Yes, I think that’s a famous video clip! Good for him. I was not up to the task 🤣
You really need to check out the Welsh comedian Rhod Gilbert. Search YT for him learning Welsh, the video quality isn't great but it is hilarious.
Thanks for the recommendation! Cheers! XX Dara
Just watched it. Yes, he is hilarious!
Great job Joe though you may have failed as a teacher. Not sure Dara's Welsh is any better!
No, I was a hopeless pupil. Not Joe's fault, LOL!
That has to be your funniest one yet Joe was a star how he didn't fall about laughing was great. Its strange how many places across the UK have names that are differently said as opposed to the spelling. Masham in Yorkshire is one, pronounced Mass ham, you could have asked Joe about microwave and increased your Welsh language skills further.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! I didn’t realise until I was editing the video how very serious Joe was! I think appearing on his American cousin’s RUclips channel was a bit intimidating and he wanted to do a very good job 😉. Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. Cheers! XX Dara
wonderful video thanks a million😍😍😘
Great fun video Dara. Welsh is famously difficult for us English speakers to pronounce. You did really well!!
You are too kind. My pronunciation was absolutely rubbish. But I get points for trying, right? Cheers! XX Dara
Happy to support your channel new subscriber
Thanks so much!
I won’t even begin to try Welsh. Never. Ever…!!!! 😂❤️
Haha I understand
Loved learning Welsh in 10 minutes! We'll grade you on a curve. I'm sure none of us would have gotten any right so 3 out of 10 makes you the Valedictorian!
I definitely get a failing grade... even on a curve!!!
Loved it!! It’s such a bizarre alphabet, but once you know it, its a lot easier to pronounce words as there aren’t all the weird rules of English!! Well done 🍻
yeah, I'm not convinced. After "learning" the alphabet, I did even worse. I think I'm a lost cause! But I do love hearing other people speak the language!! I was just editing my Cardiff video, and it was funny how I made my friend Imo pronounce things in Welsh for me.
I'm not good at trilling any letters... why I am rubbish at speaking Spanish, which is the only language I know *a bit* other than English!
Oh that’s gonna be cool!
I'll be able to pronounce Welsh as good as you, Dara.
Haha, that's not saying much, Tom! Thanks for watching!
I have heard of American optimism but learning Welsh in 10 minutes? I lived in Wales from the age of 11 to 27 and didn’t manage it!
I was so naive!!! Very tricky language!
I can say Llanfair etc!
I think you did pretty well, though. Incidentally, Neath in Welsh is Castellated Newydd.
I was on a bus in Mid Wales, telling the driver I was going to Llandinam . He looked puzzled asking me to repeat it, I did but it didn't help.
A passenger sitting close by laughed and suggested I pronounce as it would be in English since he didn't understand.
So the bus driver did not speak Welsh? I think that must be tricky, understanding who does and doesn't speak it in the country!
Thanks for watching! Cheers! XX Dara
@@MagentaOtterTravels .
The buses were based in England, many drivers would be English, he was probably new on the route and hadn't learned the place names properly.
@@grahvis aaah makes sense 😉
It's a good job the bus wasn't going to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
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I've lived in Wales for 14 years and am still tripped up with some place names, plus I have the advantage of speaking Afrikaans which has some similar sounds to Welsh that aren't found in the English language, so for an English speaker you did very well. Aberystwyth is one I like to hear the English try to pronounce, plus another local town, Eglwyswrw. Once you think you have mastered Welsh, take a trip up to north Wales where they pronounce it all different and learn it all over again ;-) I think Joe would score you less than you scored yourself but he's too nice ;-)
My hubby Ian speaks Afrikaans as well! I’m bad at all the tricky pronunciation stuff. But it was good fun to try. 😉Cheers!xx Dara
@@MagentaOtterTravels Howzit, Ian :-) Isn't Spanish a kind of a second language in USA? Is it taught in schools at all, like French is taught in UK schools? My daughter went to a Welsh school so she speaks Welsh well but doesn't use it outside school. I never hear Welsh spoken around here (Haverfordwest area) but do when going further up the coast towards, and into, Ceredigion.
@@Electrowave oh, I do hope you watch the upcoming videos! A couple are in Ceredigion and I even have a video of us stopping into Haverford West!
Here in Texas, Spanish is definitely the most popular foreign language taught in schools. French is usually available as well. In other US areas German is also offered or Chinese.
@@MagentaOtterTravels I will be watching your videos, especially as they are of the local area where I live! I love your videos, and when you compare things between UK and USA. Haverfordwest is one word, or in Welsh it is Hwlffordd, but a lot of the locals pronounce it in a mixture of the two that sounds something like Harford. I also used to think it was two words before I moved here :-)
My vrou is nie rigtig nie. My Afrikaans het baie versleg. Ek kaan dit nie onthou nie want dit was te lank terug en ek het die taal vergeet. Ek het von '85 - '87 in die Transvaal gebly. Lank terug! En nou ek studeer Duits so Afrikaans ist baie mooilik vir my.
This was hilarious....such a fun video!!! 🤩
Thanks! I did think it was pretty funny to watch back... and I normally HATE watching myself. But this was just madness, LOL!
Hehe Dara I loved that . It is so funny hearing non welsh speakers trying to pronounce Welsh . Got to say though that even non welsh speaking Welsh people struggle with the language . You did um... ahem ... quite well though 😃 I enjoyed your laughing at it 😄👏😄👏😄💕
No need to try to preserve me ego, Anna. I was RUBBISH! But I think I get points for giving it a go, and for at least being rather entertaining along the way. But my pronunciation is truly awful. Thanks so much for watching! I enjoy hearing YOU speak Welsh beautifully!! Cheers! XX Dara
Hadir teman ikutn nyimak salam dari aku ❤❤❤❤❤❤🇮🇩
Sorry I missed this. Watching now
No worries! You are sweet to watch at all! Thanks ;-) Dara
PH in Welsh is similar in sound to the ph in pharmacy.
That makes sense! Thanks for the tip! I obviously need all the hep I can get ;-) haha
Hahaha, too much spitting, Dara!! 😜
I'm not good with the spitting and hissing sounds, lol!
There’s one on list I could help with.✌🏼
OK, that's a mysterious comment, Tony!
@@MagentaOtterTravels I’m not sure what I meant,why are you so interested.A shoulder shrug and smile might have done.I hope I haven’t offended.
@@tonywilkinson6895 oh heavens no! It would take a lot more than that to offend me. I thought maybe your wife was from one of the places on the list 😉
@@MagentaOtterTravels Wrexham.
This is gonna be hilarious!
I think it's pretty funny and cute. More humourous than my usual videos ;-)
I imagine that when you get the hang of the special sounds that certain letters make, Welsh is more consistent with its pronunciations than English? Is that so? I'm guessing with extra practice you're now almost fluent, Dara! 😉😂
I honestly think I’ve gotten even worse! My mouth is not good at making those different sounds. I’m rather a hopeless case…
Not to mention I’m so American, I can’t stop saying the word gotten! Lol
Can't wait!
It's 10 minutes... hopefully you can watch on your lunch break later ;-)
Blimey Dara! If you think Welsh is a bit... taxing, go 'round the corner and down a bit' and have a go at....... CORNISH. There are only about 5-600 people left who speak it as their first language - so you might actually be saving it! I (pathetically) tried to have a go at Cornish in a pub near Truro (Malpas, to be precise) when I was about 15 (1976!) and failed even more miserably at that, than you managed with Welsh! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And I've been to Llangranog too! Beautiful little place which was like stepping back into the 1940s. I went there when my eldest son was about a year old (he's nearly 31 now)
Oh yes, I have seen the Cornish language on the signs in Cornwall and I am 100% certain that I would not stand a chance speaking or understanding that language! 🤪
As for Llangrannog, that video is a week from Friday. Ian got some lovely drone photography, so I hope you enjoy the video and it brings back some nice memories ❤️🏴
Thanks for watching my crazy video and taking the time to leave a comment! Cheers! XX Dara
Yes your Welsh relatives, ask her about cawl a very old Welsh dish, you named the name of my village in your learning how to speak Welsh video, sorry to say you failed lol but thanks for trying.
I'm not surprised I failed! I was absolutely rubbish at pronouncing Welsh! 🤣 We need to try cawl next time we visit Wales.
Well done 👍 👌😍
Joe did well. I get a failing grade!!! Thanks for joining the premiere! BTW, I spoke to Nick and Jill last week and they mentioned you. I'll go check out your channel this weekend. Though I don't want to sub today if you just subbed to me... I hate when YT cancels out subs like that! We need ALL our subs to count ;-)
@@MagentaOtterTravels we only just subbed, I didn’t realise that RUclips did that…but it certainly does explain a mystery that we’ve experienced and couldn’t understand why 👌😍 Thank you Cassie and Derren
alright everybody hold YOUR LAUGH IN just hold it in everybody🤫
Wow amazing content👍👍🌟🌟💟🇵🇰🤗🤗
Thanks! I can tell you really enjoyed the video ;-)
Hello, I've watched your videos must say inspiration positive funny family friendly I've subscribed. You should work for the British tourist board do a better job all split in to 4 welsh tourist board you be amazing at it. Your knowledge of history diff cultures here is astonishing I know more tho lol, well presented and spoken with music and well spoken in a kind respective manner with scenery and nature your job apply for British tourist board. I can speak English in high equity or depending on who im with where I am will naturally use saying n phrases so meaningfull and tend to talk a lot of slang lol.. I can speak welsh and understand what words places mean the terminology etc, as born grew up in South Wales welsh language surrounds us, had welsh classes in school ( my fav subject ) but was English school not welsh speaking.. Since January this year I been doing a online course named Duolingo so much fun they have apps with a great community do quizes etc get points to learn welsh fluently im on intermediate level putting sentences together etc which originally learnt in school. Obviously I know all greeting bye phrases words in welsh so much fun. Today me my parents my older brother my son my girlfriend going to Pendine sands Carmarthenshire for 5 days a small haven caravan park there, reminds me of childhood early teen years in the magical 1980s traditional UK holiday caravan parks Best memories tho. Your channel others to positive vibes on Britain where I born ( Wales ) grew up made me realise we tend to take for granted im very much love nature n chill. Im quiet natured but can ramble so sorry. I have so many recommendations to visit in UK but be a long list tho. Im lucky to live by coastal seaside town porthcawl the historic cynffig villages surround kind of centrel for me inbetween Swansea Cardiff M4 right by London 2 n half train ride away etc. Love London to visit been loads football matches to but won't like to live there. Have a wonderful time in UK you should try live permeability experience autumn winter I dont moan about weather use to it lol it so changeable unreal if it rains who cares a saying here - Keep calm and carry on make best of your da. So excited Pendine sands with family n girlfriend leaving soon woohoo... Keep up the positive well presented videos nice one n cheers . Kind regards..... Gareth.... x
You are lucky to live near the beautiful Welsh coast! ❤️🏴
Thanks so much for your support!👍
Have a great day! Dara
Da iawn, Dara!
Let's be real. I was rubbish. But it was fun to try! People need to wait till my Cardiff video to hear you do some lovely Welsh pronunciation ;-)
Oh wow, some of these stuff are impossible :d and I thought Hungarian can give a headache with length of words (and surely it does) but Wales have their fair competitors :D Good job though! :)
Ha ha, thanks for watching! It was a valiant effort, but I did pretty badly 😂
V and J don't exist in the Welsh alphabet despite Jones being a common Welsh surname!
Watch out for orthographical changes eg M can become F, C can become G.
C is never pronounced as S.
I'm English and can't speak Welsh but have been to Wales many times and picked up on some of the language. I hope!
Yeah, the alphabet is a mystery, and the changing sounds of the letters is beyond my abilities... and the whole J not being a letter with Jones being the most common surname... mind blown! haha
@@MagentaOtterTravels "J" whilst not in the traditional Welsh alphabet was added via loan words - e.g. garaj (garage) or jiraff (giraffe).
@@jinxvrs serious question: what about the very common Welsh surnames of Jones and Jenkins (The latter being the name of many of my husband Ian‘s Welsh ancestors)?
@@MagentaOtterTravels They are either anglicised from the original Welsh or more commonly adopted from English (or in reality Norman French) following the conquest of Wales. Oddly, "J" was not (in)formally added to the alphabet until the 20th century. The "s" at the end of Jones & Jenkins is a shortened form of "Son of". Interestingly, Jenkins would appear to be of Dutch / Flemish origin as Jankin.
However in the Welsh language, "son of" would have been "ap" or "ab" as in Llywelyn ap Rhys. When surnames were mandated, "Ap Rhys", became the surname and due to poor literacy, could be written as (get ready) Price, Pryce, Preece, Rice, Rees or Reece. Other names had the same fait - Hywel became Powell or Howell, Iorwerth became Yorath, Owain became Owen or Bowen, Caradoc became Craddock.
@@jinxvrs thanks so much for all that information! Absolutely fascinating! Of course, Ian also has Prices and Howells on his family tree 🌳
i think the only RUclips videos with me in are the ones on other channels ☠️
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when i was stationed there i leart onlt bad words lol
No cuss words were taught in my 10 minute Welsh lesson ;-) We all know MOT is a family friendly channel! haha
@@MagentaOtterTravels that's why i didnt write them, well that & Welsh spelling is beyond me lol
Great
Well if your name is Jones, I assume you are a better Welsh speaker than me! Cheers! X Dara
@@MagentaOtterTravels No sadly being born and bred in Wales in the 60s. To English speaking parents Welsh was not taught or given the same significance as it is now at Schools. Thankfully that as all changed. Changing the subject. I recommend Swansea Market for you to visit for traditional Welsh food. Cockles, lava bread Rissoles, and Welsh cakes made there are just some of the fine things sold there. Keep up the great videos. 👍
@@markjones9693 thanks for that. We will add Swansea market to the list. Even though I spent a significant portion of my childhood in the area around Ammanford, I don't recall ever visiting the Swansea market. Of course this was in the 70's and early 80's and things were very different back then.
@@ians3586 . Did you ever visit Carreg Cennen castle ? Not to far from Ammanford in the Black Mountains. If you visit Swansea market you could add to your intinery Mumbles and Oystermouth along the coast . Visit Joes Ice cream parlour . It’s a locally made ice cream and always a crowd waiting to get in . That’s how good it is. Moving down to Mumbles the listed and protected Apple . A shop made in the shape of an apple built in the 1920s and the pier , lighthouse . Well keep up the excellent videos. I have visited a few places based on watching your videos .
@@markjones9693 thank you for those excellent suggestions. I have visited Carreg Cennen many times. My mum lived in the countryside north of Llandybie so it was just a short drive away. It was the source of a lot of good memories as a child but I have visited in recent years also.
When did they add J to the welsh alphabet? lol, they must have sneaked that one in very recently. It must be an anglicisation thing, because of so many Christian names with a J, like Joe, Joseph, James, John, Jesus etc, they must have thought, what’s one more letter to the alphabet.
So even I have learnt something from this video, lol, not sure how I feel about it.
Ok so a question to the welsh speakers who have been taught with a J, do you still spell names like Ioan with an I or do you now spell it with a J? And do you spell fridge the English way or do you spell it in an Welsh way but with a J now it’s part of the Welsh alphabet say Ffrij? Or do you just use the welsh word oergell/oergelloedd?
I have no idea about the J! But I'm just glad you watched my silly video ;-) Sorry it took me nearly a year to publish the bloody thing!
Have a great weekend, Dafydd! Cheers! XX Dara
@@MagentaOtterTravels I gave it a quick watch but was in a busy loud place at the time so didn’t really take it in too much. I just watched it again properly, you did pretty well, not too shabby, it’s difficult to get the sounds like ll, ng, rh etc because they aren’t really sounds used in English, they require mouth and tongue techniques that are difficult like rolling the R or H, sounds that are often exaggerated when you see the stereotypical impressions, lol
The other thing that can make it difficult is that some letters, especially the vowels, can have multiple sounds depending on where they are in a word, lol
Like Cymry for example, the welsh word for welsh (people) Cymry has 2 syllables so the y of the last syllable is different.
C is a K in English, welsh don’t use it like an S sound like in lace. Lace to a welsh person would be pronounced like Lake in English.
Ch, there isn’t an English equivalent sound, it is like the X in Mexico if you are saying it like a Mexican.
Dd is like th from thus
Th is like th from thank
But like I said, you did pretty well, there was times when it sounded like you were having a stroke trying to pronounce the longest place name, lol, but it was as good an attempt I have heard in a long time
@@Penddraig7 I was having a stroke! 🤪 The biggest problem is that I am not good at making those different sounds. I could never pronounce the G sound when I was living in the Netherlands and needed to say Dutch things and even though I learned Spanish in school, I could never trill the rr’s…. I’m not cut out to properly speak Welsh I’m afraid 🤣
Joe is a very good teacher, but maybe he's a little bit strict. I thought many of your pronunciations were fine! I think you have to learn how to pronounce the words first before trying to pronounce them! (speaking as a language teacher with decades of experience!) Welsh pronunciation is much easier than English as the spelling is almost 100% regular. The Llanfair... place name is best split up into its constituent words, but I've never seen anyone do that! It's great that you tried to speak the Welsh language, which is an irreplaceable and ever-fascinating asset of Wales.
I agree with you about the Welsh language being a precious resource that needs to be preserved ❤️🏴.
As for me, I’ll tell you my problem… as a polyglot who also has done language instruction for so long you will understand. I’m one of those people that has trouble getting my mouth to make the strange sounds that are not common to American English. I was OK at learning Spanish, I just could not trill my RR. In the Netherlands I always had trouble correctly pronouncing the G and GG in Dutch. And in Welsh, there are several sounds my mouth just doesn’t make correctly. And when I attempt to pronounce anything in French it’s pretty horrific! 🤪 #hopeless #lostcause
"The Llanfair... place name is best split up into its constituent words" I did, in one of the comments and gave an approximate pronounciation.
Its young Joe Root.
Well, now you made me Google Joe Root! Yep, I see the resemblance.
@@MagentaOtterTravels Being an Anglophile I didn't think you would have to look it up!! I'll get you interested in the great game. What more could you want, a game that can last 5days with regular tea breaks (including cheese sandwiches) and still end up as a draw/tie. Surely you have your wireless tuned to the BBC World Service and the Test Match Special programme when England are playing?.
@@jjsmallpiece9234 Anglophile yes, massive sports fan…. not so much. I applaud your efforts to convert me 👏😂
You can't give yourself points. You got those wrong.
Yeahhhh, there was some cheating going on...
Well done, I'd stick to English if I were you
Wise counsel, lol
All I know is that ll is pronounced cl
The nuances of how to make that sound can be tricky! Especially for an American like me. As you will see in the video, I was not super successful with it 🤣
hl, not cl, you make a kind of purring huh sound with a luh sound at the end, that’s the best way a can describe it, lol
Not quite. If you studied klingon, it's the same sound as tlh there.
Diolch
Cheers! XX Dara
I swear Americsns cannot hear sounds. P and ph sound completrly different. Welsh is very easy compared to English, because the rules stay the same for everything.
It's all Greek to me....
Pretty much! haha
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch translates as St Mary’s Church in the Hollow of the White Hazel Near to the Rapid Whirlpool of Llantysilio of the Red Cave
That’s amazing!! Very descriptive place name!
@@MagentaOtterTravels It's also totally made up as a publicity stunt. The village was always Llanfairpwllgwyrngyll (Or just Llanfair PG) to the locals.
There is no j in the Welsh alphabet.
I think that changed?
@@MagentaOtterTravels They simply borrowed it for foreign words, same with x and z.
That used to be the case. It's in Welsh dictionaries now for borrowed words, like Sosej and garej.
Probably be easier if you break it down into it component words:
Llanfair pwllgwyrngyll go ger y chwryn drobwll llan tysilio gogogoch.
Church of St Mary-pool of white hazels-near the wild whirlpool - (and) the Church of Tsylio - of the red caves...Thusly:
TLahn-vair-puTL-guirn-guTL-go-ger-i-xhurin-dro-buTL-TLahn-ti-silio-go-go-goxh.
with TL being the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative LL and xh being the uvular fricative CH
Wow!