Yes it's overall very good in the quality dept, & that bezel action is really that good it is undeniably a good watch. Apart from the sharp edges on the lugs they are very "pointy" 🔪🗡
You just convinced me to buy this watch along with SN047 their homage for the Captain Willard turtle. Thank you Sir and more vids from San Martin soon. ❤
Ah yeah I can understand the dilemma, obviously we all know and love the SW, for what it's worth I've had a few watches with the PT5000 and they've always been very reliable and easily perform as well as anything I've had with SW inside. As an interesting side note, the PT5000 is capable of running within COSC certified limits. I think I even covered that in a video at some point, I can't remember exactly which one, but it could be the last Proxima video I did.
Really good in-depth review. They are punching well above their weight but I would love to see them really go for it with original designs. Surely they can attract designers attention given their obvious chops when it comes to execution :)!
Thanks John. They do have their own designs as well, & I really hope that in time they will cut the Ali express umbilical cord & enter the market as a proper microbrand, to be honest for me it's the fact that you can only buy their watches through third party sellers like AE or watchdives that tends to put me off. This particular one I picked up on ebay
Thanks James I think if you look at the value for money & the quality they offer & ignore the homage thing for a moment they are very good. Possibly the best that's available from AE!?
Finding the costs of these Chinese specials increasing, but so is the quality and the value for money so its still all good from me, but what is the ceiling before potential customers think the offering is to expensive, considering the Chinese origin and the snobbery within the community, great review mate.
Ah yes the Chinese special thing. To be honest San Martin are among the best that are available from AE having said that some of their watches are north of £300 so they need to be! Plus they do have some original designs as well as the homages. I am absolutely not a fan of the likes of Pagani design, Tactical frog, Heimdallr.......etc etc though, I may have become slightly "snobby" about a lot of these clones where the only thing stops it being a fake is the branding on the dial 😂 & then there's the QC or total lack of it. But at least I will freely admit it haha. Thanks for watching mate.
I’ve had three SM watches over the last three months and the quality has been outstanding. This one has that same build quality with a really nicely done dial and good lume. I think for the money they are excellent. I think of homages like I think of cover versions, no one shouts at an artist for doing a cover version. Not sure the logo on the crown is a dollar, is it an S?
Yes the overall quality is very good & definitely one of the best brands on Ali express. The S on the crown I know isn't a dollar sign it just looks like one it was just a bit of humor! 😄 As for the homage thing as mentioned this video was not about that whole can of worms but as you mention it 😁 the problem I can see with your argument about cover versions is that usually the original artist/song writer will receive royalties for someone covering said song! I wonder how much in royalties is paid by the likes of SM or Pagani or steeldive.......etc?? I suspect a grand total of sod all! 😉
I just got myself another Sanny, and I'm pretty happy with it, though it definitely did not come without issues. Potentially a big one, and already contacted the store about it. Stay tuned. This one looks quite nice I do like it, is this a Seiko homage? what watch is this one homaging?
They are definitely very good & I think the pick of the bunch from Ali express, but no not perfect at all. It's a Seiko 62mas homage or probably more accurately the 62mas reissue spb143
Quality is definitely going in the right direction, the price is also going in the same direction though. Worth the money definitely and still quite cheap for what they offer.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video. They have recently added a smaller version of this one that might be good for smaller wrists 38mm case I believe would probably bring the lug to lug down to nearer 47mm....ish!?
It's brushed stainless steel. That's the only way I can describe it. I guess if you were trying to pigeon hole it to a colour, it's nearer silver. I certainly wouldn't call it grey.. But then people's perception of colours is very subjective we all see colour slightly differently.
it is time for people to get beyond the "Made in China" stigma. The Chinese are capable of and do make some very well built products including watches. The design is of course Seiko. I don't' mind watches that homage old designs. It does bother me when a watch is copied immediately after the original is produced and still in production.
Would be nice if they came up with their own ideas and designs though. But each to thier own. If someone enjoys these "homage" pieces there's nowt wrong with that. And on the flip side of that those that prefer the originals and, for whatever reason, dislike the Chinese specials should not judge those who do like them. The point here is buy/collect/wear what you like.
I don't disagree with you. I think that most would prefer the originals if they could even remotely afford them. I have many originals and prefer to give my money to them. I would love to see some of the Chinese Brands produce some original designs.@@somewhereintimewatchreviews
Ha! The one part I didn't measure! But if memory serves me correctly, there was no taper on the bracelet, so I would think it's more likely to be a 20mm clasp, I also seem to remember that the clasp fitment at one end wasn't the standard type I'm pretty sure that it was specific to that bracelet. But San Martin have used various different bracelets on these depending on which version you have. Apologies if I sound a bit vague, but because of how many versions there are of this one I can't really tell you exactly.
Great review and points made that I all agree with! Seems like it’s good in all the places it NEEDS to be. Male end links are kinda hit or miss and the dollar sign is weird to me lol…and I really dislike sharp corners and edges 🫣 Seems like a keeper to me! 😎👍
Thanks mate. Yeah overall its a solid well made watch the $ on the crown is a bit odd haha the sharp corners may be the catalyst that makes me eventually move it on as that's also one of my pet hates too but I'll certainly keep it for now & as good as the rest of it is I still want an SPB143 😆 Thanks for watching man 👍🍻😊
The movement accuracy in those 2 positions is strange and you’d hope if there was a discrepancy, it’d be the other way around. Hit the dislike button twice - my guy 😂 Great video as ever bro 👍👍
Hehe 👎👍🤣 Yes the timing thing was a bit odd but as I said in real world use its averaging about -4 so I can live with that. Thanks for watching bro. 👍👍
This is a gem. Excellent find mate. Can’t believe you compared the bezel with the Tudor. You have me intrigued.
Yes it's overall very good in the quality dept, & that bezel action is really that good it is undeniably a good watch.
Apart from the sharp edges on the lugs they are very "pointy" 🔪🗡
You just convinced me to buy this watch along with SN047 their homage for the Captain Willard turtle. Thank you Sir and more vids from San Martin soon. ❤
@BruceWayne_87 glad to have been of service. 😁
Thanks for watching, and enjoy your new watches.
@@somewhereintimewatchreviews But i am pretty torn between the PT5000 and SW movement because of more than a hundred euro price difference :(
Ah yeah I can understand the dilemma, obviously we all know and love the SW, for what it's worth I've had a few watches with the PT5000 and they've always been very reliable and easily perform as well as anything I've had with SW inside.
As an interesting side note, the PT5000 is capable of running within COSC certified limits.
I think I even covered that in a video at some point, I can't remember exactly which one, but it could be the last Proxima video I did.
Just picked this one up in the 11/11 sale. With discounts I paid £141 . I’m excited now about receiving it especially after your review thank you
Wow that's a good price. Would actually be rude not to get it at that price!
It's a nice watch I'm sure you'll love it.👍
Thanks I’ve had my eye on it for awhile and just thought why not
Really good in-depth review. They are punching well above their weight but I would love to see them really go for it with original designs. Surely they can attract designers attention given their obvious chops when it comes to execution :)!
Thanks John. They do have their own designs as well, & I really hope that in time they will cut the Ali express umbilical cord & enter the market as a proper microbrand, to be honest for me it's the fact that you can only buy their watches through third party sellers like AE or watchdives that tends to put me off.
This particular one I picked up on ebay
A question I have asked myself a number of times.
Great video
Thanks James I think if you look at the value for money & the quality they offer & ignore the homage thing for a moment they are very good.
Possibly the best that's available from AE!?
My First Time Here So Thanks for The Video Great Review ;-)
Many thanks for watching. 👍
Great review 👏 👌 👍
San Martin do provide an insane level of quality for the money
Thanks Matt. The quality overall is certainly undeniable, this one doesn't stop me wanting the Seiko spb143 though 😅😉
Finding the costs of these Chinese specials increasing, but so is the quality and the value for money so its still all good from me, but what is the ceiling before potential customers think the offering is to expensive, considering the Chinese origin and the snobbery within the community, great review mate.
Ah yes the Chinese special thing. To be honest San Martin are among the best that are available from AE having said that some of their watches are north of £300 so they need to be! Plus they do have some original designs as well as the homages. I am absolutely not a fan of the likes of Pagani design, Tactical frog, Heimdallr.......etc etc though, I may have become slightly "snobby" about a lot of these clones where the only thing stops it being a fake is the branding on the dial 😂 & then there's the QC or total lack of it.
But at least I will freely admit it haha.
Thanks for watching mate.
I’ve had three SM watches over the last three months and the quality has been outstanding. This one has that same build quality with a really nicely done dial and good lume. I think for the money they are excellent. I think of homages like I think of cover versions, no one shouts at an artist for doing a cover version. Not sure the logo on the crown is a dollar, is it an S?
Yes the overall quality is very good & definitely one of the best brands on Ali express.
The S on the crown I know isn't a dollar sign it just looks like one it was just a bit of humor! 😄
As for the homage thing as mentioned this video was not about that whole can of worms but as you mention it 😁 the problem I can see with your argument about cover versions is that usually the original artist/song writer will receive royalties for someone covering said song!
I wonder how much in royalties is paid by the likes of SM or Pagani or steeldive.......etc??
I suspect a grand total of sod all! 😉
@@somewhereintimewatchreviews it’s a fair point, definitely a can of worms!
Haha yes many 🪱 I think though that homage or not San Martin make some very good watches.
Above all buy what you like & wear & enjoy what you like 👍
Looks a very nice watch, though I couldn't buy it with that logo
They do a sterile dial version as well if you don't like their logo!
Available today on Amazon for about $160 vs $1600 for the Seiko reissue limited edition with 6r15 movement. Is the Seiko ten times better!
No it's not 10 times better at all, but it does say Seiko on the dial, but if that doesn't bother you, then grab a bargain San Martin 😉
I just got myself another Sanny, and I'm pretty happy with it, though it definitely did not come without issues. Potentially a big one, and already contacted the store about it. Stay tuned. This one looks quite nice I do like it, is this a Seiko homage? what watch is this one homaging?
They are definitely very good & I think the pick of the bunch from Ali express, but no not perfect at all.
It's a Seiko 62mas homage or probably more accurately the 62mas reissue spb143
This is on sale right now and available for around £154. Seems like a no brainer at that price!
Yes apparently so. The good old Ali express Novemberfest deals. Grab one while you can.
Quality is definitely going in the right direction, the price is also going in the same direction though. Worth the money definitely and still quite cheap for what they offer.
Yes they're not bad at all there is a definite quality difference between SM & the rest of the pack.
Cheers mate.
stunning for the money, but, for me, the lug to lug on steel is too big... Great review, nice clarity
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video. They have recently added a smaller version of this one that might be good for smaller wrists 38mm case I believe would probably bring the lug to lug down to nearer 47mm....ish!?
Is the case and band silver ? Or light grey?
It's brushed stainless steel. That's the only way I can describe it. I guess if you were trying to pigeon hole it to a colour, it's nearer silver. I certainly wouldn't call it grey..
But then people's perception of colours is very subjective we all see colour slightly differently.
it is time for people to get beyond the "Made in China" stigma. The Chinese are capable of and do make some very well built products including watches. The design is of course Seiko. I don't' mind watches that homage old designs. It does bother me when a watch is copied immediately after the original is produced and still in production.
Would be nice if they came up with their own ideas and designs though. But each to thier own.
If someone enjoys these "homage" pieces there's nowt wrong with that. And on the flip side of that those that prefer the originals and, for whatever reason, dislike the Chinese specials should not judge those who do like them.
The point here is buy/collect/wear what you like.
I don't disagree with you. I think that most would prefer the originals if they could even remotely afford them. I have many originals and prefer to give my money to them. I would love to see some of the Chinese Brands produce some original designs.@@somewhereintimewatchreviews
16mm or 18mm clasp?
thanks in advance.
Ha! The one part I didn't measure! But if memory serves me correctly, there was no taper on the bracelet, so I would think it's more likely to be a 20mm clasp, I also seem to remember that the clasp fitment at one end wasn't the standard type I'm pretty sure that it was specific to that bracelet.
But San Martin have used various different bracelets on these depending on which version you have.
Apologies if I sound a bit vague, but because of how many versions there are of this one I can't really tell you exactly.
Great review and points made that I all agree with! Seems like it’s good in all the places it NEEDS to be. Male end links are kinda hit or miss and the dollar sign is weird to me lol…and I really dislike sharp corners and edges 🫣
Seems like a keeper to me! 😎👍
Thanks mate. Yeah overall its a solid well made watch the $ on the crown is a bit odd haha the sharp corners may be the catalyst that makes me eventually move it on as that's also one of my pet hates too but I'll certainly keep it for now & as good as the rest of it is I still want an SPB143 😆
Thanks for watching man 👍🍻😊
They have some nice watches indeed.!
They do have some very well made watches with generally very good QC too.
Thanks for watching Steven.👍
It's not a dollar sign. This is a dollar sign $. The S on the crown is a stylized S.
Haha yes I know what the "S" is calling it. A dollar sign is just a bit of humour! 🙄
The movement accuracy in those 2 positions is strange and you’d hope if there was a discrepancy, it’d be the other way around. Hit the dislike button twice - my guy 😂
Great video as ever bro 👍👍
Hehe 👎👍🤣
Yes the timing thing was a bit odd but as I said in real world use its averaging about -4 so I can live with that.
Thanks for watching bro. 👍👍