How Much Do Pricework Bricklayers Really Earn?
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If you think you can just become a bricklayer and earn that sort of money think again 😊 it takes years of practise and a lifetime of mistakes
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You can be alright bricklayer but if you stupid you not gonna earn money like this :)
You're being too humble - you need to explain the stress levels that go through the roof once you go from just laying brick and block to what a supervisor asks you to running a job/business yourself:
- You need to have drawings on hand at all times and actually understand them and not just pretend that you do. These will probably need to be looked at and read in your private time to give yourself the confidence you need when setting out etc.
- You need to have a reliable 10 or 12 inch petrol saw or electric battery equivalent with say 6 or 8 batteries. That's nearly £1.5k all in.
- You need to find a bricklayer or 2 that consistently want to come in to work, with a good attitude and don't mind being on say 4 jobs a year for example (it's highly unlikely to be on the same job for a year at a time)
- You need to find a good labourer or hoddy, again one that is on time and turns up when he says hes going to turn up and when he says he isn't going to turn up is not at 1 hours notice and preferebly a days notice minimum.
- You probably need a van, as most people don't buy a pickup truck like a Ford Ranger for their personal life so if your working on houses in and around London it's probably 10k for a ULEZ 16 plate onwards van.
- Making sure you get paid on time and the amount you have agreed with the subcontractor.
- Liability insurance - what does this cost when you set up a limited company and have people that you pay through a limited company etc.
I could go on and on with another 20 bullet points and i'm just a hoddy without going through all those things.
You earn what you earn because you are efficient at picking and dipping and not a snob about having to perp every brick when you get nice strong square plots. Also you are throwing up corners lively freehand... This isn't often seen.
Theres probably another 50 men out there in this country that have the understanding and work ethic you do to take on work themselves. It's a whole other ball game to going on a job as a trowel earning 200-230 a day to then aiming to consistenly earn for example 300+ a day taking on pricework building homes.
@@shifty277
A well considered and excellent reply. The truth spoken exactly as it is....
You would need to be very ambitious and also well motivated and have a decent plan going forward into the future.
It is a real challenge and a total ball-ache at times (as you have so aptly described) However, the greater the risk - the greater the reward (mainly) That for me was always the driving force.
Thank you for posting your comment. 😁👍👍
PS = Are you sure you are "just a hoddy" ?
@@martin2466 I'm sure "i'm just a hoddy", my father was a trowel from the age of 15-65 but I tried multiple times to start and didn't enjoy it so couldn't force the progression unfortunaltely.
I'm 3 months into slinging as well as being a hoddy as I work in London where the vast majority of work is flats with cranes etc.
Thanks for the reply and the correllation regarding Charlies committment to the pricework journey.
He faces tons of criticism on his channel for no good logical reason - just the effort alone to film your work and voice over it and edit it is another kick in the nuts when all we want to do is chill when home from work.
Great video thanks. If you've got your head screwed on, get stuck in and avoid drugs and alcohol on the weekends after a good week the building trade is a great profession to go into. I'm 50 now and started out as a chippy. Was earning £ 1,200 week back in late 1990s/ early 2000s. Instead of blowing it like most, I gradually built our own building company and had several large, high profit contracts over the years. Put together a small portfolio of properties too. Lads who were doing their apprenticeships with me have pissed it all up the wall and still doing so living from week to week. Just ticking over nicely now with 15 good lads no stress.
Yea but its weather permitted where it mostly rains
those apprentices should be thankful for having someone willing to teach them 😂, im having a hard time finding an apprenticeship at the moment its really starting to annoy me
Great to see such an honest insight into your earnings,
Takes big set of balls to open up ,
But it’s quality work and your laying the quantities legit !
Take a bow charl 🙌🏻
Charlie, great explanation of the wages breakdown on earnings. Well done with the apprentices. You're the perfect teacher in a great industry. Keep up the good work 👏 🙌
The unmistakable sound of the stihl saw Christ its still aggravating ain't it , i don't miss that sound , great work Charlie lad 💪👍
Fair play mate great video, people will probably think about becoming a brickie after this but truth is tough job
is it good for a boxer?
Really interesting, cheers Charlies thanks for sharing. Not a bricklayer but appreciate the craft.
Brutally honest and a breath of fresh air for all your fellow brickies
I’m sure. 👊🏻
Fantastic bud, honest insightful video!
Thank you for this video. Fascinating look at the brick-mason's craft.
class video mate you gave such a honest and well explained detailed outcome for the young lads starting out in bricklaying, im a plasterer so im lucky i can fill my rainy days indoors
Hay Charlie. Loved the video. No clue how I stumbled on it. . I’m a web designer but your thinking is the same as mine. You put the time in and you get out of it. Keep up the good work. B.
I'm not a web designer but I do work in DevOps hahaha. Maybe we're both weighing up our life choices
thank you for your video-retired i was fortunate to be a union bricklayer in new york in the states i am 61 years OLD now takes me 2 hours to get up in morning pain all day-it catches up to you -but a good trade
Not if you end up an invilade at 61 y .I do admire the skill and work ethic of doing it in all weathers though .My father was a Carpenter /builder self employed here in Ireland .He kept going till he was 70 y .His hands were in bits at the end .Just about every finger broken .
Great video Charlie very honest with what a great bricklayer can earn
This is my first year going self employed as an improver and it's been a reality check having all these wet days spent at home. Money has been more a concern lately but this video helped me to think ahead and understand that it's part and parcel of the job. I'll definitely be thinking more about saving money for these rainy days now. It's good to see someone talk bluntly and be open minded about our wages unlike all the bricklayers that make £1000 by 10.
Very honest
Well done mate - not bragging but honest n true
Charlie, my respect for u grows every day. Keep it up, my man!
You have to average it Charlie, as you said you are forced not to work for three months,, make hay when the sun shines and save for a rainy day. Great vlogs 👍
Just subscribed I’m a bricklayer from 🇦🇺 yes good way to explain it, as you know you don’t become a good tradesman for at least 5 years on the trowel , I’ve stepped back a bit from the bricklaying because sick of running gangs and finding good trowels. You can make even more money here laying blocks round 5to 6 bucks a block.I’ve moved more over to the pool copping and renovating them, you can make same money but easier on the back. I can do the average pool copping and waterline tile and make round 4K a week but I only work 6 hr days but don’t stop. Yes and here we loose money in wet season and work in 95percent humidity, so most don’t last at it
Hi CC. It would be interesting to tell everyone how long you actually spend laying during the day. You leave home get to the site, load out and get setup and the clear up at the end of the day.
I think your honesty is amazing and your extremely transparent. I think you will get some silly comments on this video as day workers do not understand the overheads of running a business and every job you build has your name on it and is your responsibility if a employee messes up. And the obvious over heads fuel insurance van cost damages public liability insurance accountants sorting the guys tax pensions. Advertising keeping customers and clients happy. Poor weather conditions sickness absence and the list goes on. Well done great video 👍
He pays them well , pays their fuel as well. They'd be talking b0llocks to be honest.
That will definitely get some young bricklayers interested
Great advice about looking after your money
If your earning that money the rainy days don’t matter.
But when you’re an improver on 120 day with a mortgage to pay they matter a lot.
Go on price! Earn what you’re worth
All I was doing was running in.
And jointing up didn’t have the time to
teach.
Great video Charlie.
Chippie here, glad you released that, my 14 year old boy wants to be a brickie, I'll show him that video tonight. Top man.
Wants to be a bricky, fair enough, not the best job I can tell you that for nothing. At 14 he's better off learning how to code simple as that. Nice and clean better money, no graft.
@@chinering23head of Nvidia one of the biggest chip makers said the other day that coding has a limited run left in it as a secure job. AI going to to replace a lot of coding was his take
@@chinering23I’d agree but it’s still stressful and tough work until you establish yourself as a good software engineer. The graft is different but it’s still a hard career.
@@chinering23I’d agree but it’s still stressful and tough work until you establish yourself as a good software engineer. The graft is different but it’s still a hard career.
@@JamesButler-yw6rm Well, he wouldn't be engineer but developer, still building but build out of thin air.
👍👍good honest video,
Didn’t realise how good the money was, I need to change jobs. What a inspiration
Love the video mate
That was kind of fascinating. Here in the U.S. I was always curious about what someone for what you do earns and in a way as you said, if you work hard and do it right by yourself, you can earn a decent living. I am not sure how rates, materials, and per brick laid would be too much here in the U.S. directly but it gives a good general sense. There's not much need for brick laying I think here in the U.S. in most suburbs as usually you don't see a ton of brick houses until you get close and into the cities like NYC and others. However, those are older buildings and in terms of new ones usually if you see brick buildings, it's residential stuff here and there has been a push to get more brick houses in tornado prone states as they are more capable to hold up against flying debris hitting them than a vinyl or other material exterior.
It is hard graft, earn it while you can !
In your twentys listen ( running in a line doesn’t make you a Bricky )
30-45 is prime for price
45 -55 is prime for knowledge, try and negotiate a good daywork rate with a contractor who knows you from your prime, don’t flip contractors at this age !
50 years old, don’t waste energy apart from laying ( decent labourer worth his weight in gold )
I’m a Carpenter by trade and then went into supervisory roles and project management. I loved my time on price work and especially being a carpenter as we have to have a vast amount of knowledge on different aspects of the job. From fencing & Decking, Framing, first fix, second fix, roof work traditional and pre fab trusses, fitting bespoke kitchens to windows and bi-folding doors.
The list goes on.
But there are down sides to these kind of jobs and it’s family life due to long shifts and feeling exhausted due to work 10-12 hour days Monday to Friday and 6-8 hours a Saturday. No time for my daughter or at least until Sunday.
Also it’s a cut throat business I’ve seen great squads of chippies get the boot as they just wanted to turn up Monday-Thursday full shifts and only worked a half day on a Friday due to wanting to travel back home and have the weekend with their families.
Basically I had enough of all that and got into Fire Risk Assessments and I’ve not looked back since.
£60k+ a year job with bonuses on top and working 40 hours a week but at times I’m home by 2pm.
Good luck to all the guys still on the tools trying their best to make £100k a year but through my experience it’s definitely not worth it and it’s very hard to achieve that without sacrificing family life.
Keep up the hard work but a good family life is the happiest any man can be!
Very interesting. Ended up becoming an software engineer myself after doing a bachelors in computer science, and a master's in electrical and computer engineering. The trades always crossed my mind before uni, would of been a sparky if anything. The trades are lucrative for sure, but you trade your body for the higher salary, and you're vulnerable to the ups/downs of the property market. It's fantastic now, but going back to 2008 it was a whole different story. Overall, just make sure you're investing that salary, be it the stock market or property, it'll pay off in the long run.
What a good man you are honest 👌🏻👍🏻💪🏼keep up the good work
Well said mate, i am a price worker myself just turned 31, what would u recommend working on a wage at this age or pricework all the way ?
Big respect for the honesty. How have you found the current situation with housing development slowing down.
Great video thanks again for your video 👍 good luck with the rain 🌧 😊it's hot here all year round 😀 and not coming back more bricks for me😅off to my beach now have a great weekend 😊
MINT…….must admit, I thought you’d laid about 600 trench…….nice to see an honest count……..keep up the good work and keep the videos coming……..👍💪👌
Good fellow is not bragging he's just been honest
Much of what you’ve said is true of all career paths. Work hard. Learn. Be diligent. It’s down to you what value you are to your customer/employer. Don’t like it? Move on. Can’t move on? Be grateful for what you do have.
Taking in the Weather Petrol or diesel to get to work. TAX insurance, and then Accountants and paying Paye or 20 % it works out in a year just a decent wage. All that hard work takes it's toll on the body over the years as does the weather. Brick layers are NOT OVER PAID.
Spot on Charlie, problem with the trades is the kids expect to stroll in and make bank. I’m a chippy and I’m not ashamed to say I price pick job sites. I’ll take every door on the site at a price, cream it and fuck off. Couple of kitchen installs on the side and I’m golden.
Hi Charlie, How does that work out with Vat or do you not have to charge it because your not working for the end user? Great video aswell 👍
New builds are zero rated
Well said. It's a long game, don't matter what you earn on any particular day, all that matters is how much you clear in a year...
After, rain, holidays, sick days, vans, fuel, insurance, tools, employees, accountants, bribes and beer... :-)
Have a good weekend Charlie, get ya feet up ;-)
Well said that man
Nice guy. Just come across your content. Love the honesty. So many bullsh...ers out there
Whilst I agree you should have 3 months worth of wages behind you for a rainy day, in 7 years in the UK I've never ever lost 3 months of work over a full year, but I do try to stick it out when weather is shite as much as I can 😂
You earn as a bricky way more than the average worker though..like almost double the avarage wage, so You're covered for a loss of 3 months worth of wages anyway just gotta adjust your lifestyle since most of you bet are living double the lifestyles compared to the average worker due to having the extra income
well said.
Well done Charlie didn't need to do that but you did bet the rest of the ut stars wont best regards ifin
Is the prices you get direct from the company charlie or are you subbing on them prices ?
Thing with being a brick layer is it’s a struggle to not get 1600 quick then go flat out on the sesh and the drag there heels doing a plot in two days with the splash in the wrong colour brick the week after
Surely at the start of the video. Ground wasn't that bad. As groundworkers we'd normally dig a hole or holes and sweep the water in. Pump it away or use digger and dumper.
What you had didn't look too big a deal.
Once the blockwork comes up. Put some dry stuff down and build up the levels. Even put a bit of crush down on top.
Footings work can be awkward. But things can be done. It will go on the groundworkers booking in anyway? So they'll want you to work.
Doesn't seem right and that's now the way we've done things.
I think my body says no more my hip is done my glute. Too much price work and too many long days . Its hard to come to this realisation but think i figured it out eventually.
Fair play to you 👏🏻
No sites are on 70p a brick in the midlands think most have had a pay cut 545 - 60p a brick is usual up here , maybe we are being ripped off mate
Cost of living down South is heaps more too
That’s laying in the footings, rubble stacking is what we called it. A corner builder and a line rat or two is all that’s needed.
The better money is on the scaff house bashing, but you need good trowels for that.
When I had a gang in the footings the muck was on the boards for 730am and we left at 430pm.
You have to be a squirrel, gather the nuts in the good weather or winter is going to skint you.
It took me back seeing the state of the ground in that footing… there were mornings I’d sooner slit my own throat than get up and out in the Somme! 😂
Absolutely right. Had a friend who was a groundworker making 300 a day and stuck it all up his nose at the weekend, literally had nothing to show for years of work. It's not how you earn it, it's how you spend it
I have 22 years of bricklaying experience doing commercial work
I try to teach young people nowadays, but no one has the desire to learn.
I see that young people nowadays just want to make their day and get their money
Most people don't want to learn
I wish I had the patience Charlie has
And most gen z cant handle banter
Nonsense. Some brilliant youngsters out there if you offer the right money. Just an out of touch boomer who wants to pay 70 a day and wonder why you just get mongs
Hey mate, I got 7 GCSES, two A's. I done two years at trade college doing joinery and carpentry and got a merit first year , pass second year (because covid we couldn't sit last two exams so got passes as they wouldn't give merit or distinction) and I've done two years self employed fitting signage and graphics installs for events/stand erection roughly doing £275 a day, whilst battling through cancer (last treatment 2 years ago last month). I'm 23 from round Cambridge and learning for me is what it's all about, if you're not too far we could have a chat and I wouldn't mind apprenticing if you're open to the idea.
Great stuff
Are you getting the prices 1st hand or from a sub contractor ?
By the sounds of it if you were never rained off, all went to plan etc you can make 1200 a day before expenses, not bad is it for working class lads
England mate. :D
Good god, no wonder new houses cost so much when you consider the medium average wage in this country is circa £27500-00 p.a
My careers advisor at school said I should become a bricklayer. I took it as an insult and went on to become a software developer staring at a screen for 14 hours per day. I wish I'd listened, I'd much prefer to build stuff that actually exists than pixels on screens.
the most efficient trowel i’ve seen
Not when he isn’t using profiles! They’re far more efficient
I’ve laboured on brickes in the past. And the range in quality is staggering 😂. A good bricklayer will always do well. And so they should. Because it’s a skilled job.
Uncles main trade is a brick layer of 30 odd years but due to rain he learnt multiple trades. Rain just ruined it
how? you earn double the average wage as a good bricky which puts you in the top 10% of earners in the country. You're having a laugh mate
@@coachingconfidant2785top 10% of earners? Don’t make me laugh
Mr collision, in Europe the max to lift up is 25 kg, those crazy wet blocks at 32, is a health problem 🤔... I work in marble and all bags are 25 kg max.. Love your work. Take care collision family... 💖🇫🇷👍
That's a salient point you make, it would seem that even the dry blocks breach current health and safety and the saturated ones are way above.
@@bradwhelan4466 25kg for male worker and 16kg for female worker.
but these deveopers/house builders dont care, there is a deadline to hit.... not to mention stone cills/lintels weigh far in excess of these weight limitations. ass up head down.....
Should be getting paid for a 2 man lift. Do you agree??
@@OutofPlumb-ic5plwhere is the equity of lighting lol
The problem there is someone else will do the job if you don’t. If Charlie goes to the site office & says these trench blocks are over the health & safety for one man lift they’d just tell him well that’s the only work there. So he’d get chased out the office. Guaranteed that. If you went further & complain H&S no contractor would give him work. 🧱👍
Great video's, I work an office job but I'm under no illusions that this is harder everyday, part of me thinks I'd love it though, I'm sure there's stress but I'd rather that than work in an office where you get called out for literally anything and most of it has nothing to do with work
No wonder house prices are so high 😂 Christ. Worked 2 1/2 days and made £1600. That’s crazy good money in anyone’s books. Why there’s a shortage of youngsters coming into the trades is beyond me.
Cos they don't like hard graft, and there hands are too soft 😂
It’s still hard work regardless of earning potential.
It ain’t hard work when you can earn that kind of money. Hard work is going to work on a 10hr shift and taking home £60. Then working another job on weekends just to afford to live. These guys earning potentially £1000/day is crazy money. I’d be skipping and whistling into work earning that kind of money. You can’t complain about “you’ve got to do this and it’s stressful this and hard work that”?The earning potential is incredible in anyone’s terms if you put the graft in. Be thankful you are well remunerated for the work you do.
Agree with big dog. I used to work as prison officer in a horrendous cat B local and take home 1350 a month if I did no overtime. I’m self employed now and earn that in a day and half last week doing a fencing job. Some tradesmen are spoilt rotten, and are going to get ousted by hungry career changers like myself who appreciate and understand what good money is out there
Because big housing companies hire unskilled contracted workers as cheap as possible. Hence the state of most new houses.
Good lad 😊
Don't worry about having a day off ..u could of said that at the start.... Great video's 😂😂😂
For running a firm and organising staff, setting up scheduals, wages etc. Youve not had the best week £336 pretty low. When i was on site brickies was getting 250 a day basic wage. And their work was shambles. Honestly hated working for them.. until i got my great uncle kenny n his gang on there. Then i loaded out for them 3-1 sometimes 4-2. They were machines with a high quality finish...
Great. Money your to gready mate
What about tax cis amd if your on that sort of money be tax registered too?
Amazing amount of money, I'm about to start a new job which I thought was decent and I've worked out I get £165 per day (about £42.5k per year) and that is 8hr shifts for 5 days of a 6 day working week. I'm 42 and now thinking, can I learn to be a brick layer? 😅
The UK 🇬🇧 needs more brick layers any trade is hard graft..I should of been good at football ⚽️ would be on two hundred grand a week
I remember the 714/5 exemption certificates. And working the "Lump," that is all history now......
My best advice is pay your deductions on time - every time, listen to, and take heed of Mr Collison`s advice and don`t try and shaft H.M.R.C
😁👍
715s takes me back….😊
Very easy to shaft them .remember the 714 vouchers if the firm you worked for didn't invoice you tor the tax you kept the full wage and went somewhere else no wonder they stopped them.people were getting dodgy vouchers.happy days them
@@robogamer5384
Dodgy vouchers indeed - you could buy them in the pub.
I believe H.M.R.C are a bit sharper these days.......
😁👍
@@robogamer5384I remember ‘subbies’ selling them for thousands of pounds.!
Good lad
We have it pretty good in Melbourne for weather 🇦🇺 37 degrees on Monday 😬
37 degrees foe bricklaying is NOT GOOD, it would be an absolute nightmare, sweating yr bollacks of all day in searing heat, I couldn't think of anything worse, it would be torture.
I'll be rolling up my shorts in altona. Not far from the beach!
@@grahambates2681 its like someone has a hot clothes iron on your back. To be honest most days are below 30 in summer
Everyone was off when it was that hot here couple of years ago
@@jmdbricklaying So you switch from it being 37c when what you thought was a boast did not impress lol
Hi would you have made more if you hadn’t done site work and concentrated on building for the private market or build your own houses?
Just interest I’m a plasterer and have done site work but could never earn that amount at best £300 day but your working your bollocks of for it.
I’m a site plasterer on pricework. I’m averaging about 220 a day even at that like u say I’m working my bollocks off. I’m sure this guy is a really good brickie but that’s fantastic money
@@MrPistolpete1234 have you tried citric acid in your mix, we were doing 8 or 9 bags a day without any stress even in summer it slows the mix set time down.
But as you say £220 day minus tax isn’t anywhere near what this guys on and plastering is way harder, somethings not right!
So are you VAT registered Charlie?
The fundamentals on sites have gone tits up now for bricklayers,no one gives a shit if you have soaking wet bricks and blocks and if you make money or who pays your bills, bleak,that's all I can say ,not sure if I would do it all again 🤔
Charlie - great video mate. Love your level of skill - I'm a general builder and find a lot of clients like having 1 or 2 trades on site at a time to sort their work out. I generally try and get more bathrooms or inside work over the winter wet months - then outside extensions, conservatories, decking, patios over the summer dry months - it generally works quite well with a steady income all year. I would be luck if I did 20% of your blo😊ck/brick laying - lovely watching a skilled tradesman. Top man. l
Wow you earn some serious money but then again you do work for it so fair play! Im a chippy and i thought we was the highest paid price workers but clearly not🤣
Tom didnt get much of the pie did he
Spot on ! American stone mason, self employed for 10 years and you couldn’t have said it better
I’ve worked as a social worker for 30 years. I have a degree, three post graduate degrees and two post graduate diplomas, I couldn’t be arsed to write a thesis for the diplomas to complete to masters level. Salary £42K, seems I made very poor career choices, should have considered the construction trades? Or not given up sciences at o level, I’ve spent enough time at university to train as a doctor and then some on the flip side. Would not do it over again, often had sleepless nights (child protection) wondering if the child I’d seen that day would survive parental abuse and management refusing care proceedings, advising increased visiting frequency. Also worked for many years in mental health services, clients requiring mental health act assessments (sectioning) no hospital beds? Then there’s an incident, managers never ever held to account such as baby P.
A different kind of stress but you kept your hands clean .I doubt you would last a day as a brick layer ,but neither would this video maker likely last a day as a social worker .
@@anthonydowling3356 Not now but in my younger years one never knows? Wouldn’t fancy working as a brick layer in the winter months especially as the government intends to move the retirement age to 70. In the construction business there are accidents some fatal, although social workers have been stabbed to death at work, held hostage and seriously assaulted, certainly not matching construction deaths at work. Health wise the physical work takes its toll, arthritis and rheumatism and there are mental health issues within the business. But stress in other occupations may lead to hypertension and heart failure, I know!
Yes Gov … 💪
When you divide it by the time lost due to weather and recession its shite. All the tradies are chuffed atm but they all forget when they were on their arses and couldnt afford to get a skip for years after 2008. the bubble will burst
Charlie do you take breaks? If so what time and for how long?
Depends how big the stool is .Sometimes it takes 10 minutes to drop a load .On my Dads site it was just a hole in the ground with lime in .
That's some good coin !!!!
😊
How much do they earn , answer a shed load of dosh . Had my gate post re built he used half the original bricks did it in under two n half hours charged us 900 quid and that was years ago robbin sod !
Pretty good prices charlie
Top man, how long does it take for the site you’re on to pay you?
You don't get paid by the site you get paid by the subby
@@hod2116 ah right, that’s not bad then
My best advise as a tradie, have two bank accounts, wages into one account and put 10% of wages into 2nd account for the rainy days and tax 👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
Not bad for a part time week this week. No grumbles eh?
Do you incorporate as a limited company? Pay yourself a flat wage to
Whats your best ever week mate ? If you dont mind me asking
The week he got layed .
Honest 🇬🇧