I have the original Google wifi from when it came out and it works OK but I decided to upgrade. I just bought the TP Link deco AXE5400, I heard pretty much all positive things about it which is why I went with it. I haven't set it up yet but I'm hoping for a good experience.
I really did like the TP Link Deco AXE5300 for its consistency and performance minus the security issue of sending my traffic to the 3rd party. I believe you can block the outgoing traffic to the 3rd party, but I didn't get a chance to test it and have already returned it.
Agree on setup. Took over half an hour to set up the router -- Google Home app on iOS is crap -- then almost 1 hr to add the mesh point. Ultimately had to connect Ethernet cable between them (to pair the 2nd blob) then disconnect it for mesh placing. Range was also considerably less than advertised (Home app complains if more than 1 room away)
Thanks for your video, Kim. Wanting your advice - the situation: I currently have Google AC-1304 3-pack used since 2018 and it has been working quite well. Now upgrading TVs to 4K, in 3 locations which likely would not be on simultaneously. Been trying to think proactively by “upgrading” to a new Google Pro Nest like you’ve reviewed. I’ve received it but haven’t yet even broken the wrapping. Home office (modem to router) distance to back room “point” might be 40 ft. Then have a detached garage with tandem gym room, maybe 50 or 60 foot point location away. So I’m moving the third point to the gym location to accommodate a 4K TV and couple of other things there - this room might be a future ADU. I have all kinds of Alexa electrical switches, lights, Ring cameras, etc presently that are working harmoniously. But after what I’ve heard from you, maybe I should keep my current system, even if it might be slower. Thank you for your help.
Hi There! Thank you for stopping by! Ooh...40 ft away may work, but the connection may be a bit dodgy because we experienced some drops and slowness when we sit in our home office, which is kind of in the middle of the satellite unit and the main router, and the distance between the satellite and the main router was about 35 ft. Our backyard Nest Outdoor camera dropped a couple of time, and it was 10 ft away from a satellite unit. This satellite unit was about 60 ft from the main router, and there was another satellite unit in between the 2 of them. If 60 ft is the farthest that your setup would need, then it may work if you put 1 or 2 satellite units in between, but you'll get a slower speed. If you're still within the return policy, then you can try it for yourself because it may work for you. However, if your home and your ADU combined are larger than my home space of 2,264 sq. ft, then don't bother testing it. LOL
Are you in a newer or older home because mine works just fine it's either the materials used in your home or if you share a network with other people and possibly just the unit you received
@deontabowen4800 Hello! Thank you for sharing your experience! I think my home is made of regular material - wood beam and dry wall - nothing special that I can recall. Is your home more than 2,000ft² (or 185.81m²)? Please don't get me wrong, I think the Google Nest WiFi Pro would work fine for smaller homes. Of course, there's always the probability that I got a bad set if your home is my size or larger and has great connectivity and speed with just these 2 units. 😅 If the Google Nest Pro gets an upgrade, I have no problem giving the upgrade a try. 😁
Thank you for your comment to potentially identify where the problem lies with my subpar Nest WiFi Pro performance. Majority of my devices are no older than 2-3 years old. As mentioned in this video, I'm almost certain the issues are specific to the Nest WiFi Pro and not my devices because the TP-Link Deco AXE5300 didn't have stability and range issue, and the Google routers are placed in the same locations as the Deco routers. The Google Home app doesn't tell you which band the devices are connected to, so this cannot be answered. If you do know how I can view the band of the connected devices from the Google Home app, then please let me know. Appreciated it.
Ahh I see, this only works for computers though and not for majority of smart devices. It's ok, we plan to return it since we had no connection and had to power cycle the main router again over the weekend. 😔
@@kimandtech alright. Well, it's just a product. By the way, I have the same router and it works fine so far. I just got with Google fiber for free and no problems. Perhaps it was just your batch of devices that didn't work so well.
I'm in the market for a new WiFi 6 or 6e mesh system, maybe even a 7 if a good deal comes across, but I have a question about matter, thread devices and how difficult would be to mount or use them through a network switch. Could you maybe do a video on that? Or maybe only about the matter & thread stuff cause the switch would only come into play if I buy a router with limited lan ports
@rockraphlegal - Thank you for your question. Want to clarify some terms to make my explanation clearer. Matter = the language the the devices "speak" for you to control them Thread = connection between the devices (think of this as like a mode of communication (e.g. WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.)) A Matter device doesn't necessarily mean that it supports Thread. I haven't looked too deep into this matter, but from what I know so far, you'll need a Matter/Thread controller, e.g. Amazon Echo, Google Nest Mini, or Apple HomePod. The network switch alone cannot control your Matter/Thread devices because it doesn't support either Matter/Thread. I hope that helps.
@@kimandtech thanks for the info. So, if I understand correctly, the network switch won't make a difference when using matter/thread compatible devices wherever they may be throughout my home network.
Loves the video. It was good to know. I am in the market now for a mesh network as I have many walls and some are cement in the basement area's. My home is 2600 square feet on one floor only and not counting the basement is extra footage.
@Corkeysullivan Hi John! Thank you for the kind comment! Yeah, that's a lot of space. If you go with the Nest Wi-Fi Pro, you most definitely need to get more of those pebbles (😆) to extend your network, but you'll definitely get a reduced speed if you're not wired in.
Great review, I have the same issue with speed fluctuating. I owned the Orbi Rbk 753 and just replaced it with the TP link Deco XE75 Pro and still get fluctuating speeds. I also had 1000 mbps fiber , but recently went back to 1000 mbps cable internet. In other words, I tried everything with multiple mesh systems and still got fluctuating speeds. ..by the way… I work in an I.T environment so I know what I am talking about. The only consistent speed I get is running a netgear wax 218 access point, this AP doesn’t disappoint.
Thank you for the kind comment and sharing your experience!!! I'm about to return the Nest and pick up the Orbi from Costco, but I'll keep your suggestion in mind in case the Orbi doesn't work out. I honestly really like the TP Link Deco AXE5300 in term of speed and stability, but it had some security issue, so I returned it.
I actually wanted to upgrade from my OG Google wifi to this Nest Wifi Pro. I currently have 5 of those routers meshed up to cover my 3 storey home but I’m only getting like 15% of my maximum internet speed at the borders. Would this be a good recommendation for an upgrade? Seeing your connectivity issues scare me abit 😅
Thank you for sharing your existing setup. Oooh..that's tough. If your 3-story home is less than 2,264sq. ft (my home), then most likely yes with all 4 of the Nest WiFi Pro units. If your home is larger, then you'll need more than 4 if you want to use the Nest WiFi Pro.
Hi! My recommendation is off of the ones I have tried, so I'm sure there are good Mesh System out there, but I haven't gotten a chance to try them yet. If you don't mind TP-Link sending some sort of traffic to its 3rd party security partner without the ability to stop this, then the TP-Link Deco AXE5300 is great in term of speed and connectivity, and setup was a BREEZE. I'm currently testing the Netgear Orbi Orbi AX5400. It's been working well, but I'm not done with my test, so I cannot comment further, but it's on sale at Costco if you shop at Costco. hahaha
1Gbps WAN port means no probably not worth it and definitely not "pro" The software is really slick though and it integrates so well with my pixel phone. But I probably will just use the router my ISP gave me as it can access more data per second and I can fully utilize my computer's ethernet capacity.
I agree - not "Pro" at all. I think the main goal of a router for most people is to be able to fully use the speed capacity that you pay for with stability. If the ISP has a default router that works for you, then yes by all means!
I get it’s your experience with it, but I have to disagree with this review. I bought this device, the three pack. I have full coverage. 1gb speed. Getting 900 ish download, and 900 ish upload. I live in a 4bedroom house and this device is crushing it in my home. Over 20 device’s attached to it too. Install was easy and the inability to switch ghz doesn’t effect my speeds at all. It prioritizes the day best speeds for the devices that are in use. Sorry to but you may need more assistance with these types of devices than you think. I didn’t find the set up cumbersome nor difficult.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Glad that you had a good experience with the Nest WiFi Pro as it can vary based on the environment. Although your home has 4 bedrooms, what's the square footage if you don't mind sharing?
@@kimandtechDid you disable ISP's router in modem before setting up Nest WiFi Pro? It is a common mistake. If a router in your modem is not disabled it will interfere into Nest connection and create problems.
@@proudbacteria1373 Thank you for your suggestion! I never had to touch my ISP modem before. However, I did try to access it yesterday, but the ISP modem is locked down by the ISP, so I cannot access it. Plus that seems a bit annoying that we would have to make settings changes to the modem for the Nest WiFi Pro when other mesh systems work fine without needing this adjustment. Thank you though for the suggestion as it may works for some...
@@kimandtech Well, if your modem is a combo of modem/router then your router does interfere and disrupt your separate router's network if it is not disabled or put into "bridge mode". You can log in to your modem and make changes by yourself. It's actually advised to create your own password in your modem because your modem by default has "admin" password and can easily be accessed by anybody.
@@proudbacteria1373 Agreed that if it were my own modem, I would definitely be able to access it and change the default admin password and maybe even be able to make the changes you suggested, but it's not. The ISP modem I have is managed only by ISP, which I cannot access.
OK. You complain about the coverage and having to use all 4 units to cover your home then claim that you are getting slow speeds. The fact that you were getting any speed at all says that you are indeed getting COVERAGE. The speed issue is a completely different issue. Anything else that you say in this supposed review is irrelevant. I am considering purchasing the Google system for my son but I will rely on information from others who know what they are talking about. Coverage and speed are two completely different issues.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. No doubt that coverage and speed are different, but being able to connect to the network doesn't always define coverage until you're able to confirm connection, and in this case, it's the Internet. Of course, there's issue where it doesn't work for 1 person but works for everyone else - that's a different story. Plus being able to see the network won't do anyone any good without connect because no one can get to the Internet. With the Nest WiFi Pro, I had problem with both - coverage and speed. There's a section in my video where I talked about using 3 of the Nest WiFi Pro units, which demonstrates the exaggerated coverage range, so please feel free to rewatch that section if you missed it. And hey, like I said, it may work for smaller homes as far as coverage is concerned.
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I have the original Google wifi from when it came out and it works OK but I decided to upgrade. I just bought the TP Link deco AXE5400, I heard pretty much all positive things about it which is why I went with it. I haven't set it up yet but I'm hoping for a good experience.
I really did like the TP Link Deco AXE5300 for its consistency and performance minus the security issue of sending my traffic to the 3rd party. I believe you can block the outgoing traffic to the 3rd party, but I didn't get a chance to test it and have already returned it.
Agree on setup. Took over half an hour to set up the router -- Google Home app on iOS is crap -- then almost 1 hr to add the mesh point. Ultimately had to connect Ethernet cable between them (to pair the 2nd blob) then disconnect it for mesh placing. Range was also considerably less than advertised (Home app complains if more than 1 room away)
😲YIKES, you had it rough! I'm sorry to hear your experience. Did you end up keep it? Or swapping it out with something else?
Thanks for your video, Kim. Wanting your advice - the situation: I currently have Google AC-1304 3-pack used since 2018 and it has been working quite well. Now upgrading TVs to 4K, in 3 locations which likely would not be on simultaneously. Been trying to think proactively by “upgrading” to a new Google Pro Nest like you’ve reviewed. I’ve received it but haven’t yet even broken the wrapping. Home office (modem to router) distance to back room “point” might be 40 ft. Then have a detached garage with tandem gym room, maybe 50 or 60 foot point location away. So I’m moving the third point to the gym location to accommodate a 4K TV and couple of other things there - this room might be a future ADU.
I have all kinds of Alexa electrical switches, lights, Ring cameras, etc presently that are working harmoniously. But after what I’ve heard from you, maybe I should keep my current system, even if it might be slower. Thank you for your help.
Hi There! Thank you for stopping by!
Ooh...40 ft away may work, but the connection may be a bit dodgy because we experienced some drops and slowness when we sit in our home office, which is kind of in the middle of the satellite unit and the main router, and the distance between the satellite and the main router was about 35 ft. Our backyard Nest Outdoor camera dropped a couple of time, and it was 10 ft away from a satellite unit. This satellite unit was about 60 ft from the main router, and there was another satellite unit in between the 2 of them.
If 60 ft is the farthest that your setup would need, then it may work if you put 1 or 2 satellite units in between, but you'll get a slower speed.
If you're still within the return policy, then you can try it for yourself because it may work for you. However, if your home and your ADU combined are larger than my home space of 2,264 sq. ft, then don't bother testing it. LOL
Are you in a newer or older home because mine works just fine it's either the materials used in your home or if you share a network with other people and possibly just the unit you received
@deontabowen4800 Hello! Thank you for sharing your experience! I think my home is made of regular material - wood beam and dry wall - nothing special that I can recall.
Is your home more than 2,000ft² (or 185.81m²)? Please don't get me wrong, I think the Google Nest WiFi Pro would work fine for smaller homes.
Of course, there's always the probability that I got a bad set if your home is my size or larger and has great connectivity and speed with just these 2 units. 😅
If the Google Nest Pro gets an upgrade, I have no problem giving the upgrade a try. 😁
Which band are your devices connecting to? 2.4, 5 or 6hhz? Those are going to matter? How old are your devices? How far away are the cameras??
Thank you for your comment to potentially identify where the problem lies with my subpar Nest WiFi Pro performance.
Majority of my devices are no older than 2-3 years old.
As mentioned in this video, I'm almost certain the issues are specific to the Nest WiFi Pro and not my devices because the TP-Link Deco AXE5300 didn't have stability and range issue, and the Google routers are placed in the same locations as the Deco routers.
The Google Home app doesn't tell you which band the devices are connected to, so this cannot be answered. If you do know how I can view the band of the connected devices from the Google Home app, then please let me know. Appreciated it.
@@kimandtech well, idk if you can tell from the nest pro itself, but you can tell on your device.
Ahh I see, this only works for computers though and not for majority of smart devices. It's ok, we plan to return it since we had no connection and had to power cycle the main router again over the weekend. 😔
@@kimandtech alright. Well, it's just a product. By the way, I have the same router and it works fine so far. I just got with Google fiber for free and no problems. Perhaps it was just your batch of devices that didn't work so well.
I'm in the market for a new WiFi 6 or 6e mesh system, maybe even a 7 if a good deal comes across, but I have a question about matter, thread devices and how difficult would be to mount or use them through a network switch. Could you maybe do a video on that? Or maybe only about the matter & thread stuff cause the switch would only come into play if I buy a router with limited lan ports
@rockraphlegal - Thank you for your question. Want to clarify some terms to make my explanation clearer.
Matter = the language the the devices "speak" for you to control them
Thread = connection between the devices (think of this as like a mode of communication (e.g. WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.))
A Matter device doesn't necessarily mean that it supports Thread.
I haven't looked too deep into this matter, but from what I know so far, you'll need a Matter/Thread controller, e.g. Amazon Echo, Google Nest Mini, or Apple HomePod. The network switch alone cannot control your Matter/Thread devices because it doesn't support either Matter/Thread.
I hope that helps.
@@kimandtech thanks for the info. So, if I understand correctly, the network switch won't make a difference when using matter/thread compatible devices wherever they may be throughout my home network.
@@rockraphlegal Yes, that's correct as the control is with the Matter/Thread controller, e.g. Amazon Echo, Google Nest Mini, or Apple HomePod.
Loves the video. It was good to know. I am in the market now for a mesh network as I have many walls and some are cement in the basement area's. My home is 2600 square feet on one floor only and not counting the basement is extra footage.
@Corkeysullivan Hi John! Thank you for the kind comment! Yeah, that's a lot of space. If you go with the Nest Wi-Fi Pro, you most definitely need to get more of those pebbles (😆) to extend your network, but you'll definitely get a reduced speed if you're not wired in.
Great review, I have the same issue with speed fluctuating. I owned the Orbi Rbk 753 and just replaced it with the TP link Deco XE75 Pro and still get fluctuating speeds. I also had 1000 mbps fiber , but recently went back to 1000 mbps cable internet. In other words, I tried everything with multiple mesh systems and still got fluctuating speeds. ..by the way… I work in an I.T environment so I know what I am talking about. The only consistent speed I get is running a netgear wax 218 access point, this AP doesn’t disappoint.
Thank you for the kind comment and sharing your experience!!! I'm about to return the Nest and pick up the Orbi from Costco, but I'll keep your suggestion in mind in case the Orbi doesn't work out. I honestly really like the TP Link Deco AXE5300 in term of speed and stability, but it had some security issue, so I returned it.
What is the powerconsumption on these devices, i cant be true they uses 22W each?
Hello There. Unfortunately, I didn't test the power consumption, so I cannot verify for you.
I actually wanted to upgrade from my OG Google wifi to this Nest Wifi Pro. I currently have 5 of those routers meshed up to cover my 3 storey home but I’m only getting like 15% of my maximum internet speed at the borders. Would this be a good recommendation for an upgrade? Seeing your connectivity issues scare me abit 😅
Thank you for sharing your existing setup. Oooh..that's tough. If your 3-story home is less than 2,264sq. ft (my home), then most likely yes with all 4 of the Nest WiFi Pro units. If your home is larger, then you'll need more than 4 if you want to use the Nest WiFi Pro.
Hi, Can you please review Asus router i heard they have option to disable data collection in settings and are very good at performance.
Hi There! I'll put a note down and will try my best. Thanks.
What would you recommend instead?
Hi! My recommendation is off of the ones I have tried, so I'm sure there are good Mesh System out there, but I haven't gotten a chance to try them yet.
If you don't mind TP-Link sending some sort of traffic to its 3rd party security partner without the ability to stop this, then the TP-Link Deco AXE5300 is great in term of speed and connectivity, and setup was a BREEZE.
I'm currently testing the Netgear Orbi Orbi AX5400. It's been working well, but I'm not done with my test, so I cannot comment further, but it's on sale at Costco if you shop at Costco. hahaha
1Gbps WAN port means no probably not worth it and definitely not "pro"
The software is really slick though and it integrates so well with my pixel phone.
But I probably will just use the router my ISP gave me as it can access more data per second and I can fully utilize my computer's ethernet capacity.
I agree - not "Pro" at all.
I think the main goal of a router for most people is to be able to fully use the speed capacity that you pay for with stability.
If the ISP has a default router that works for you, then yes by all means!
1:24 lol thought my iPhone glitch ❤️✊🏾👍🏾
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I get it’s your experience with it, but I have to disagree with this review. I bought this device, the three pack. I have full coverage. 1gb speed. Getting 900 ish download, and 900 ish upload. I live in a 4bedroom house and this device is crushing it in my home. Over 20 device’s attached to it too. Install was easy and the inability to switch ghz doesn’t effect my speeds at all. It prioritizes the day best speeds for the devices that are in use. Sorry to but you may need more assistance with these types of devices than you think. I didn’t find the set up cumbersome nor difficult.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Glad that you had a good experience with the Nest WiFi Pro as it can vary based on the environment. Although your home has 4 bedrooms, what's the square footage if you don't mind sharing?
@@kimandtechDid you disable ISP's router in modem before setting up Nest WiFi Pro? It is a common mistake. If a router in your modem is not disabled it will interfere into Nest connection and create problems.
@@proudbacteria1373 Thank you for your suggestion! I never had to touch my ISP modem before. However, I did try to access it yesterday, but the ISP modem is locked down by the ISP, so I cannot access it. Plus that seems a bit annoying that we would have to make settings changes to the modem for the Nest WiFi Pro when other mesh systems work fine without needing this adjustment. Thank you though for the suggestion as it may works for some...
@@kimandtech Well, if your modem is a combo of modem/router then your router does interfere and disrupt your separate router's network if it is not disabled or put into "bridge mode". You can log in to your modem and make changes by yourself. It's actually advised to create your own password in your modem because your modem by default has "admin" password and can easily be accessed by anybody.
@@proudbacteria1373 Agreed that if it were my own modem, I would definitely be able to access it and change the default admin password and maybe even be able to make the changes you suggested, but it's not. The ISP modem I have is managed only by ISP, which I cannot access.
Your Flaming Google routers for a problem with your ISP.
You may have misunderstood the video, but thank you for stopping by.
OK. You complain about the coverage and having to use all 4 units to cover your home then claim that you are getting slow speeds. The fact that you were getting any speed at all says that you are indeed getting COVERAGE. The speed issue is a completely different issue. Anything else that you say in this supposed review is irrelevant. I am considering purchasing the Google system for my son but I will rely on information from others who know what they are talking about. Coverage and speed are two completely different issues.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
No doubt that coverage and speed are different, but being able to connect to the network doesn't always define coverage until you're able to confirm connection, and in this case, it's the Internet. Of course, there's issue where it doesn't work for 1 person but works for everyone else - that's a different story.
Plus being able to see the network won't do anyone any good without connect because no one can get to the Internet.
With the Nest WiFi Pro, I had problem with both - coverage and speed. There's a section in my video where I talked about using 3 of the Nest WiFi Pro units, which demonstrates the exaggerated coverage range, so please feel free to rewatch that section if you missed it.
And hey, like I said, it may work for smaller homes as far as coverage is concerned.
Yes but anything you've said in your self-righteous little speech is made irrelevant by your haircut, Jim.
You are joking mate do some work