99 percent of their history is the telephone game and flat out lies. Not saying I wouldn’t watch the movies but… come on let’s stop pretending things are facts.
@@jalentackett370 go on and explain then, because they didn’t keep written records and even the tribes we know or knew of couldn’t tell you the names of the tribes before them, no written records and they were all fighting each other and we all know the victors tell their side only, so tell me how I’m ridiculous.
Are you still in the northwest? My son has a little ranch close to wallowa lake, and I often wonder if ‘thunder rolling down the mountain’ walked across that ground.
Crazy Horse was known to be fair haired and light skinned and able to dress in white mans clothing and tuck his hair under a hat and ride into a fort and reconoitter without anyone batting an eye. My great grandmother was a child survivor of wounded knee and was also Oglala Lakota and was also fair haired and light skinned. What you are talking about was the sundance and they didnt cut bits of flesh, but skewers were put under narrow pieces of skin and tied off to thongs and either semi suspended from leather thongs from poles of the structure or tied to buffalo skulls and dragged. Either way, until they ripped out. They used wing bone whistles and danced in a spiritual, trance - like focused state. I visited the medicine wheel in the Big Horn mountains of Wyoming where Sitting Sitting Bull danced and received the vision of soldiers falling into camp upside down, a sign of a significant victory. The energy I felt there, as I felt also in the Black Hills of South Dakota and Eastern Wyoming was phenomenal!!
Its not their "nippels" they pierce, its above their nopples on their chest muscles. The men also can pierce the back of their shoulders and pull a buffalo skull on ropes for each piercing. There is a book about the sacred Sundance that might be helpful to some. Also a few special women pierce their upper arms.
right you are...Joe Rogan is usually more and better informed about the subject before he has the guest on...if he had looked into it he would have known his guest was right about Sitting Bull having a 100 pieces of flesh cut, and the reason Crazy Horse didn't want his photo taken, or how exactly the Sun Dance is accomplished
There's a pencil sketch made of Crazy Horse ..done by a family member..I would say it is the best reference for what Crazy Horse looked like.. he never wanted to go to the enemy and be photographed ..he told Red Cloud he wouldn't go to Washington ..he wouldn't agree to a reservation
Why doesn’t Joe actually have a tribal member or an elder or a medicine man? Greg talks about Lakota. My family is from pine ridge, have David swallow on he will be able to explain everything
Uhm, the man is correct...anyone who has studied these things at all knows that Sitting Bull famously had 100 pieces of fleck cut off before Custer and company came to visit
Tell me why the entire time in the beginning for the first minute or so before they showed the picture of “crazy horse”, I thought they were talking about Krazy Horse the MMA fighter 😂
I'm Oglala Lakota you mean the Vision Quest fasting required no Percing 7 days on a Hill Bear Butte South Dakota usually making 400 tobacco ties to surround around creating an alter you should say a prayer with each one, you would attend a sweat lodge before & after Sundance you can Pearce & Sweat lodge too
Puppies are in the Ceremony too puppy Soup 🍲 Yeah 💯 if required it's called a Sacrifice I have not taken part but have seen these ceremony performed 🐕🍲💯
He didn't want to be photographed to stay humble. Signs told him to stay humble, reality would tax him if he didn't remain humble. Almost invulnerable in battle until he went to take a scalp, trophy = pride. My thoughts anyway.
In my 35years of life I have never heard anyone say "all natives use to live in peace and harmony" the only people who use that concept love stirring the pot in comment sections.
The Soux had a motto, “to know our name is to fear us or die.” They ruled the middle of the country in a massive nation and they killed all you did not give them what they wanted. It was a war. They lost. We should treat them with respect like we do all other combatants.
@@TonyMarselle No sir, it wasn't 'a war. They lost.' It was GENOCIDE, accomplished by the most nefarious of ways. Going back to the beginning of the European invasion they handed out blankets infected with smallpox and such, in many cases because The People were too powerful to be overcome merely by military methods. We see this repeated all across the continent ...the 'Americans' had never encountered forces like they were confronted with on the Great Plains - a vastly superior cavalry with many of them armed as well or better than the US Army. After meeting with defeat after defeat and even having whole companies totally wiped out (Gratton, Fetterman, Custer, etc) out west the Army realized that defeating those people wasn't going to be easy- or cheap at all...that's when somebody came up with the brilliant plan to just wipe out the buffalo upon which most of those folks from the Comanche to the south to the Blackfeet to the north depended for almost everything - food, housing, tools, storage, clothes, shoes - nearly everything. Wiping out the buffalo would bring about the defeat of The People...as usual the US was so good at it they nearly killed the buffalo to extinction
No pictures because of wiccan spells and witch craft. Me n my siblings are the closest descendants to crazy horse. And my grandma One Star was one of the only people who knows where he is buried. But she passed that on to a secret person. The secrecy was because Crazy Horse Said, "Don't let them know where I'm buried because they take heads!" (Grave robbers and Secret Societies like Skull n Bones take skulls n take the energy that is still present with skulls. That's nothing good.
Joe Rogan is usually so well informed about the subjects he's going to be discussing with someone...never seen him so misinformed to totally uninformed
I'm crazy hair no relation, crazy horse is Oglala Sioux Indian from Rosebud South Dakota. You're whitening up this Indian Legend-is why natives don't want Any White Man anything.
Why? They’re trying to be educated and are interested by the culture. It’s endearing and positive. Better to attempt to learn and discuss and platform native stories then just allow for the uneducated racists getting around still just talking shit.
The Noble Savage does NOT exist and never did. Just sayin. Native Americans fought a 400+yr war amongst themselves. It made them easier to conquer. Just sayin.
When the Founders met in 1787 to create the U.S. Constitution, there were no contemporary democracies in Europe from which they could draw inspiration. The only forms of government they had encountered were those of the Native American tribes.
The founders were impressed by how the Iroquois legislated their affairs and shortly thereafter, they drafted the U.S. Constitution echoing the Great Law of Peace. Historians agree the Iroquois wielded a major influence in the writings of the U.S. Constitution.
@@railroadtrash09 It's cause of the Government and their B.I.A and the broken contracts this worthless Government didn't for fill their promises thru their treaties they didn't honor. No honor amongst thieves. All first Nation's People should be richer than the Saudi's.
I have always said that it needs to be blockbuster movies about these Native Legends. Their deep history needs to be told on the big screen.
99 percent of their history is the telephone game and flat out lies. Not saying I wouldn’t watch the movies but… come on let’s stop pretending things are facts.
Absolutely
Read
@@ETAisNOW you sound ridiculous
@@jalentackett370 go on and explain then, because they didn’t keep written records and even the tribes we know or knew of couldn’t tell you the names of the tribes before them, no written records and they were all fighting each other and we all know the victors tell their side only, so tell me how I’m ridiculous.
I thought the reason Crazyhourse didn’t wanna be photographed is his belief that when u get photographed it keeps a piece of ur soul.
My grandpa is a direct descendant of chief Joseph, I've always loved Native history
Lol your grampa lied to you. Your re just Another white guy trying to grasp at another culture to belong to lol sad.
I grew up looking at Chief Joseph Dam out my window on the Colombia River. In Bridgeport WA. 🪶🏹🪶🏹 👋🏾
Cap
Are you still in the northwest? My son has a little ranch close to wallowa lake, and I often wonder if ‘thunder rolling down the mountain’ walked across that ground.
Quit all that cappin'.
Best one by far need more native American stories ......SANDCREEK MASSACRE
Crazy Horse was known to be fair haired and light skinned and able to dress in white mans clothing and tuck his hair under a hat and ride into a fort and reconoitter without anyone batting an eye. My great grandmother was a child survivor of wounded knee and was also Oglala Lakota and was also fair haired and light skinned. What you are talking about was the sundance and they didnt cut bits of flesh, but skewers were put under narrow pieces of skin and tied off to thongs and either semi suspended from leather thongs from poles of the structure or tied to buffalo skulls and dragged. Either way, until they ripped out. They used wing bone whistles and danced in a spiritual, trance - like focused state. I visited the medicine wheel in the Big Horn mountains of Wyoming where Sitting Sitting Bull danced and received the vision of soldiers falling into camp upside down, a sign of a significant victory. The energy I felt there, as I felt also in the Black Hills of South Dakota and Eastern Wyoming was phenomenal!!
Its not their "nippels" they pierce, its above their nopples on their chest muscles. The men also can pierce the back of their shoulders and pull a buffalo skull on ropes for each piercing. There is a book about the sacred Sundance that might be helpful to some. Also a few special women pierce their upper arms.
right you are...Joe Rogan is usually more and better informed about the subject before he has the guest on...if he had looked into it he would have known his guest was right about Sitting Bull having a 100 pieces of flesh cut, and the reason Crazy Horse didn't want his photo taken, or how exactly the Sun Dance is accomplished
bury my heart at wounded knee is one of my favorite native movies, hostiles was pretty good as well
That’s a movie? My dad read it when I was a kid so I read it when he was done.
Bet that was a good one. Sad but epic.
@@TonyMarselle yes hbo did it a while back
Im stoked to see all my fellow natives in here dropping wisdom & shit posting
Lakota over here 💪🏾🎯
The pieces of skin being removed, is a flesh offering for prayers. We still do this ritual today, because the only true possession is our flesh.
i like your picture of joe scarborough
Joe doesn’t want be wrong so badly haha
Joe is always right
Maybe I’m fucking it up
What?
Joe has a history of getting so much wrong and he hadn't changed
Big reason as to why I don’t watch his cast.. Katt W. Made him look like a burnout..
Photos capture the spirit and trap it in that moment
Probably not though
There's a pencil sketch made of Crazy Horse ..done by a family member..I would say it is the best reference for what Crazy Horse looked like.. he never wanted to go to the enemy and be photographed ..he told Red Cloud he wouldn't go to Washington ..he wouldn't agree to a reservation
Why doesn’t Joe actually have a tribal member or an elder or a medicine man? Greg talks about Lakota. My family is from pine ridge, have David swallow on he will be able to explain everything
WTF DOES THIS EVEN SAY,,,HOW MUCH MEDICINE HAVE YOU HAD😂😂😂😂
Having Dave Swallow on is a great idea. Very respected Elder, full of wisdom and knowledge.
Crazy horse would stare in the sun for hours seeking visions
Tried it. I see spots.
Tried it, I’m having someone else type this for me because now I can’t see
Everything looks white
That’s because all you are not “CrazyHorse” lol 😂
Thats a very simplified way of putting it.
Uhm, the man is correct...anyone who has studied these things at all knows that Sitting Bull famously had 100 pieces of fleck cut off before Custer and company came to visit
Mitakuye Oyasin! 💜
He mihi arohaa ki a Tatou! 💜
Loves from your relations from Aotearoa 🌅
Dang it Joe Rogan, they didn’t pierce the nipples , they pierced the pectoral’s behind the muscle so they could actually lift the entire body!
Guy is a grifter…
They dont want their pics taken..cuz they understood it was witchcraft and fallen angel technology
Lakota here 💪🏽.
Badwound here
Wounded knee 🎉
Sioux
Kiowa/Shawnee checking in 🫡
Kills In Water from Sicangu Lakota Makoche.
Tell me why the entire time in the beginning for the first minute or so before they showed the picture of “crazy horse”, I thought they were talking about Krazy Horse the MMA fighter 😂
His real name translates to ‘His horse is crazy’. The ogala honor him as so with the Cree north of the medicine line. Hiy Hiy
Tashunka Uitco!
Native Americans often believed that their soul was being taken by being photographed.
There was , LoCo 😜 Gringo, 🤠 Crazy Horse 🐎 & 4 Loco 🤣
Crazy Horse was my ancestor. I was born in Natchez Trace Mississippi Choctaw tribe #johnnyx100
Crazy horse wasn't Chata..
That’s hard cappin. Crazy horse and his actual family wouldn’t claim that 🧢
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
F You! U aint same blood as cray horse
i’m from Natchez
Providence more specifically
Jesus these two need to read more about Native Americans.
❤sitting bull was the one that didnt want a pic of painting of himself ...
No, it was Crazy Horse
Nope...there's dozens of photos of Sitting Bull. It's Crazy Horse that never was photographed
I'm Oglala Lakota you mean the Vision Quest fasting required no Percing 7 days on a Hill Bear Butte South Dakota usually making 400 tobacco ties to surround around creating an alter you should say a prayer with each one, you would attend a sweat lodge before & after Sundance you can Pearce & Sweat lodge too
Is this before you eat dog or afterwards
tf did u just say?
@@lonsfordcrook1242pos
Puppies are in the Ceremony too puppy Soup 🍲 Yeah 💯 if required it's called a Sacrifice I have not taken part but have seen these ceremony performed 🐕🍲💯
I'm surprised my relative rains in the face a war chief wasnt mentioned he was fierce in that battle
He didn't want to be photographed to stay humble. Signs told him to stay humble, reality would tax him if he didn't remain humble. Almost invulnerable in battle until he went to take a scalp, trophy = pride. My thoughts anyway.
I was hoping for Charles Bennett stories
Lol Me too!
Me three
In my 35years of life I have never heard anyone say "all natives use to live in peace and harmony" the only people who use that concept love stirring the pot in comment sections.
The Soux had a motto, “to know our name is to fear us or die.”
They ruled the middle of the country in a massive nation and they killed all you did not give them what they wanted.
It was a war. They lost. We should treat them with respect like we do all other combatants.
@@TonyMarselle No sir, it wasn't 'a war. They lost.' It was GENOCIDE, accomplished by the most nefarious of ways. Going back to the beginning of the European invasion they handed out blankets infected with smallpox and such, in many cases because The People were too powerful to be overcome merely by military methods. We see this repeated all across the continent ...the 'Americans' had never encountered forces like they were confronted with on the Great Plains - a vastly superior cavalry with many of them armed as well or better than the US Army. After meeting with defeat after defeat and even having whole companies totally wiped out (Gratton, Fetterman, Custer, etc) out west the Army realized that defeating those people wasn't going to be easy- or cheap at all...that's when somebody came up with the brilliant plan to just wipe out the buffalo upon which most of those folks from the Comanche to the south to the Blackfeet to the north depended for almost everything - food, housing, tools, storage, clothes, shoes - nearly everything. Wiping out the buffalo would bring about the defeat of The People...as usual the US was so good at it they nearly killed the buffalo to extinction
Crazy horse...original outlaw....literally....
Creek Nation 🪶
No pictures because of wiccan spells and witch craft. Me n my siblings are the closest descendants to crazy horse. And my grandma One Star was one of the only people who knows where he is buried. But she passed that on to a secret person. The secrecy was because Crazy Horse Said, "Don't let them know where I'm buried because they take heads!" (Grave robbers and Secret Societies like Skull n Bones take skulls n take the energy that is still present with skulls. That's nothing good.
Went to high school with a kid that did this ritual 2 times.
Still doing these things
some cultures without access topsychedilics use pain or "ordeal" poisons in order to see visions
I’m someone powerful reincarnated and can do things humans can’t do
How do I make 1000% reincarnated?
If that were true you wouldnt be here 😂
My ancestor is touch the clouds Crazy Horses first cousin my mom is a BullMan part of Crazy Horses clan
I have the book of Crazy Horse's Life good read
CrazyHorse only wore one or two feathers... Always pointing down... So that they would'nt interfear with his Bow & Arrows...
Well they are carving a 500 foot statue of him in a mountain so a small painting should be fine!
he would have NEVER gone along with any such stuff as that whatsoever
Joe Rogan is usually so well informed about the subjects he's going to be discussing with someone...never seen him so misinformed to totally uninformed
The reason they wanted to see your hand b4 interaction was to see if you have 6 fingers like the nephilim they been up against
Youre welcome
The entire body would not be able to lift if the piercing was through the nipples. The bone flute mimics the sound of a hawk.
ALOTTA “JUST GOT GOOGLED “FACTS” GOING ON IN THESE CONMENTS RIGHT NOW😂😂😂😂😂
Which is how most people learn now with almost zero grounded in facts information being spread around
lol we still Sundance you guys make it sound so foreign
Easy Joe , just like Jesus.
Navajo Nation active
I'm crazy hair no relation, crazy horse is Oglala Sioux Indian from Rosebud South Dakota. You're whitening up this Indian Legend-is why natives don't want Any White Man anything.
Pine Ridge...the Brule' are at Rosebud...Crazy Horse's uncle Spotted Tail was at Rosebud
We don’t pierce our nipples..
It’s a big no no to take or have pics of a sun dance. Big no no.
I like joe but this one is kinda insulting..
they still practice piercing in manitoba canada like at sundances
Quit telling our secrets about sacred places
If he coukd at all help it..he wouldn't go to a reservation..woikdnt be put in a cage
All these people claiming to be related to Crazy Horse lol smh
There was descriptions of them the American military new look like isn’t like they’re just guessing
When he said do i have permission 🤦🤦🤦🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
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Funny hearing Caucasians talk about this stuff 🤣
Why? They’re trying to be educated and are interested by the culture. It’s endearing and positive. Better to attempt to learn and discuss and platform native stories then just allow for the uneducated racists getting around still just talking shit.
Lots of wet mouth/swallowing in this one bois!
Kinda like white Jesus?
Joe has no clue what he's talking about. There's no nipple piercing.
Look into the history of Crazy Horse Joe!!!!!!!! JC! Why are you being so damn lazy??!!!
Correct there to lazy
This guy doesn’t know shit.
Wow these two have no idea what they are talking about. Hearing Joe and Co. trying to explain native americans is cringey. 😂 Embarrassed for them.
The Noble Savage does NOT exist and never did.
Just sayin.
Native Americans fought a 400+yr war amongst themselves.
It made them easier to conquer.
Just sayin.
🤡
When the Founders met in 1787 to create the U.S. Constitution, there were no contemporary democracies in Europe from which they could draw inspiration. The only forms of government they had encountered were those of the Native American tribes.
The founders were impressed by how the Iroquois legislated their affairs and shortly thereafter, they drafted the U.S. Constitution echoing the Great Law of Peace. Historians agree the Iroquois wielded a major influence in the writings of the U.S. Constitution.
How is the US dealing with mass migration right now? Tensions high ?? 😂🤣😂
Just sayin....😂
All people who live in America should be paying all the Nations of America rent.
They do. Most tribes have free healthcare, dental, college and so fourth. Reservations govern themselves and that's why they are all run-down.
They don't need it they have casinos now
@@railroadtrash09 It's cause of the Government and their B.I.A and the broken contracts this worthless Government didn't for fill their promises thru their treaties they didn't honor. No honor amongst thieves. All first Nation's People should be richer than the Saudi's.
@@AjaxWarGod74 thanks daddy
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My ancestor on my father side Oglala Lakota who refused to accept the whites demands.
Mine too. Would not join a reservation. Married an Italian women though so there’s that.
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