What Does Hinduism Really Mean - Shashi Tharoor Explains
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This is what real Hinduism is a true freedom of your choice..
I am proud of being a Hindu for the same reasons Tharoor expounds. I agree with Tharoor that Hinduism tells us that there are many paths to God and we have the choice to walk on any of those. I also agree that we should respect / accept other religions but that doesnt mean allowing or accepting disrespect of my religion when done with the intent to disrespect.
Anyone who loves Vivekananda touches the softest chord of my being..❤
I hear the interpretation of this great line from Swami Vivekananda's Chicago address from Sw. Sarvapriyananda 2 years back. Good to hear from sashi tharoor ❤ Last line of Sashi tharoor I really liked
Thanks for resonating majority of Hindu people ideology in this country, i know it’s frustrating to see some sort of hooliganism but I have lots of hopes on our future generations who ll live in peace and harmony
True True. Swami Vivekanada's book on 4 yogas is a must read for every Sanatani. Gold it is.
Hindutva is not about hitting anyone in the face but it's about bringing awareness and truth at the forefront which is kept maliciously hidden by people with ulterior motives under the garb of pseudo-secularism. Everything has a limit, tolerance as well as acceptance. Balance is essential.
Maybe you are right theoretically but that doesn't translates into ground reality for ex : the top level BJP may say we are pro hindu that doesn't mean we are anti muslim but the footsoldiers of bjp on ground are practicing pro hindu and anti muslim stand which I personally have witnessed
Your 2nd part about pseudo secularism, limits and balance of acceptance tolerance is something I agree on, the hypocrisy on that part needs to be dismantled without any political correctness .
When both respects each other's truth, it's fine. But here one peaceful religion never accepts anybody's truth hence the struggle.
@@Uncle_SAM96Why should we walk away 😂. The hinduvta is to push back the !slamic ideology that is being continued even after partition
@@GayathriK-re7wt if you attack and disrespect my religion then you have to face consequences in hindu majority country like islamic country.why Islamist become seculer in country where they are not in majority
I can't believe someone as intellectually capable as Shashi tharoor making a mistake of interpreting '33 koti' as 33 Crore divine figure. Also Hindutva is not a fanatic or an extremist idea, it's a form of Hinduism which resists. Mr tharoor being an ardent bhakt of Swamiji doesn't know this interesting bit from Swamiji's life when Swamiji was travelling to Europe on a ship and a Christian father was spreading venom against Hinduism by saying it's Satan worshiping and what not, Swamiji got so furious that he held him by his collars and threatened to throw him off the ship if he doesn't stop, that's Hindutva in real life. I will respect your faith and way of life as long you do the same for my faith and way of life, but I'm not gonna tolerate you spewing venom against my way of life just to be a pacifist.
Regarding the 33ctore Gods, the understanding I was given was that at the time he made this statement, population of India was around 33 crores. Since each one is allowed to set up his or her own relationship with the divine, that is how this 33 crores Gods came about
There is absolutely no evidence of that Christian father story in books by Vivekananda or his historians it’s most likely a facebook post or a WhatsApp share..he had no ill will against Christians just against forced conversions by any religion including Hinduism.
Ikr appalling
Hindutva is a political tool for votes nothing more
What a bakwaas long comment 😂
Cast, religion, gender blurs once you achieve enormous success in your life. That's the truth of humanity. Focus on your goal so much so that nothing else matters.
It's not that people move away from religion once they become wealthy.... majority never come near to dharma, adhyatma at all.
He didn't mention that vivekanand is promoting Advait vedant all over the world, like in today's world Acharya prashant is taking it forward 🙏
Not really. Vivekananda was all vedanta
@@omkarbhise9497 go and read about ramakrishna mission
Acharya Prashant! Really!!😑
@@G0swami yes
Please don't compare Swamijee with him. Swamijee was a mammoth! He shook the whole world!
I somehow agree with what Shashi Tharoor is saying, his ideas comes from a deep understanding of faith & spirituality as he's so well read.
He never visited a temple before Modi came to power. Now claiming he is a bigger Hindu than most Hindus. lol
Great video 📸❤
Shashi Tharoor Sir way of talking English amazing amazing 🤩😍
Every religion has "I'm superior because I treat everyone equally" type attitude ,atheists too. As an atheist in a hindu family , I feel it is so strong in hindusim, to be one of its very serious problems . Because of this whatever-estic plural nature. Nobody actually can have a proper discussion on it , so that we can move towards genuinely accepting each other. It further fuels "I see no differences. So, there are no differences. So, I don't take any action" thought pattern. It is just a oxymoron but we are "moron" heavy on this one.
Well put together.
Reach out to right people
Not really we never said we are the only great people. That is why alot of other faiths are flourishing till now
Great ❤
I could not agree more. I have some very different views on religion as compared to my parents and when I asked my Mom of doesn't it bother her she said that there are so many different paths and ideologies in hinduism itself each with lakhs of following. Yours maybe one more, I'm okay.
Lol Shashi tharoor is the last man to known about Hinduism.
His book "why I am Hindu" exposed his shallow and idiotic knowledge about Hinduism and Sanatan society.
Get Mr.Rajiv Malhotra and J Sai Deepak on Debate... with Mr. Shashi Tharoor...and see the fun...😂😂😂
Go to near by Ram Krishna mission and talk to some expert and they show you what Swami vivekanand philosophy on what context was.
@@chandra_himanshuexactly. Since many of the GenZ are less read, everything vomited in eloquent English is considered to be holy and truth.
Sad state. These guys who are all in praise of his explanation should watch how J Sai Deepak shown his depth in a mirror live.
Very well articulated, you accept my truth and I accept yours, that is what Hinduism says. Sadly, Abrahamic religion doesn’t accept truth of other religions and that is a reason for the dissent of majority Hindus.
Beautiful perspective.. Just listening to these conversations is so impactful🙏👍
India should ban all caste census, quotas, and reservations. Give special treatment based on tax categories instead of caste. This is the only way to truly abolish caste system.
You people enjoyed 100% reservation for 2000 years, now it is the time for Dalits to have their fair share.
@@yj9032 For 2000 years there was no IIT, IIMs was there? There was no civil service, no IAS exams, no nationwide social welfare right? Caste system served a purpose for defining each other based on the job one did, unfortunately at some point the job one did because a reason for discrimination. Most Hindus, like myself, abhor the way caste is practiced nowadays. That doesn't mean that we should further categorize and separate each other through reservations. Even Dr BR Ambedkar mentioned that reservations were a short-term solution and it should be slowly weeded out in due time. That due time is now.
@@reach2prasannathere were no iits iim but there was the concept of literacy and education
Dalits were not allowed ritual status that of brahmins vaishyas kshatriya i.e dwija and vedic education own land have better occupations
Dalits were denied entry to temples and education were not allowed to own land ,have better dignified occupations
All over the world Europe America China japan society built mass education and mobile social order where people are not divided into endogamosou grps like hindu justifying there lower status as divine duty
@@Sm0999 Dude I absolutely agree and appalled by the way dalits and other lower caste people were denied what upper caste people enjoyed. Justification of discrimination based on caste is abhorrent. But please listen me out. Reservation isn't the answer to this. It identifies who are dalits and who are not. It thrusts lower caste young students into positions they're not qualified for or not interested in. For eg, the highest dropouts from IITs and IIMs are dalits who got a seat because of reservation. Imagine the wasted talent. These kids could've instead done something they were passionate about. Even in the US, after years of slavery, they didn't implement reservations for black Americans. Reservation has had its run in Indian society. We should now try reservations based on economic background. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
Don't give privileged takes sitting in a fancy house in a big city . Travel to interior of India & see the myriad ways caste privileges persist .
Shashi sir is highly respected bec of this and his English 🔥 perfect 👌
I don't see tolerance and acceptance anymore does it mean Hinduism is not existing anymore???
There're two versions of Hinduism. One, that's Hinduism, the Religion that's way of Faith. Another is Hinduism, the Dharma which's not Religion, which's not bound by any Scripture or Shankaracharya or Faith, not even by the idea of Super-Natural.
I follow that Hinduism of Seeking which's unbound, and Dharma which has no necessary relations with any Scripture, not even the necessary idea of Gods or Super-Natural.
That version of the Hinduism is the real Secularism. Secularism comes from Hinduism, the way of Seeking, Seeking the Truth and Conscience. And the ONLY Truth is Science.
Secularism comes from Hinduism. And Secularism is the real Hinduism.
And the Hinduism of Seeking, has been fighting with the Hinduism of Religious Faith, forever.
It's these two versions of Hinduism, that curves the Bharatvarsha.
And for the sake of Hinduism the way of Seeking, I must fight Hinduism the Religious Faith, and Clerics and Shankaracharyas and Scriptural Fundamentalism, superstitions.
You don't understand, Secularism comes from Hinduism. And Secularism IS the real Hinduism.
And if you want the real Hinduism the way of Seeking, then you must fight Hinduism the Religious Faith, along with ALL the religious faiths around the world.
Hinduism the way of Seeking is the bedrock of the Bharatvarsha. And we really call that version of Hinduism as Secularism, only.
When you're fighting with real Secularism, you're actually fighting with the actual Hinduism.
For the sake of Hindu "Dharma", that's Secularism, we must fight Hindu ReligionS along with evil Abrahamic Religions as well.
Secular Hindus are the real Hindus. Anti-Secular Hindus are the real enemy of the Hindus.
But, we don't need Pseudo-secularism, that's for sure.
We must eradicate Islam, the Religion of Terror, first and foremost. We must stop Conversions of Hindus, if we want India to remain Bharatvarsha. We must stop Missionaries and Fraud-Ambedkarite fraud-Islamo-Buddhists Conversion Rackets.
But without Secularism, India will go down in hell. Secularism is the real Hinduism.
For the sake of real Hinduism, Secularism, we shall be prepared to fight even the Hinduism the Religious Faith.
*Denounce the "infallibility" of ALL Scriptures, necessarily including Quran and Bible, and GuruGranth, Tripitak, Smritis, and everything else, and be real Secular.*
*Liberalism : "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls off." -Carl Sagan*
*Even those who believe in GodS are just fine, but those who believe in Books are Dangerous.*
*Speak up about Islam. If Liberals addressed Religion of Terror then this day wouldn't had come. Follow Ex-Muslim movement.*
*There's no "First Human" in the path of Evolution, ever.*
*No Adam, no Noah, no Manu ever existed.*
*All Creation stories are false.* *All Religions are false. All Prophets are Frauds.*
*All Book bound Religions are false. All books have been disproved by Science.*
*Science is the ONLY Truth we Know.*
*Follow only Science and Humanism.*
*Forget all religious teachings. They're false, all of them.*
*"It's called Faith cause it's not Knowledge."*
*-Christopher Hitchens*
*"There's ONLY one World. The Natural World. And no Super-Natural."*
*-Sean Carroll, Poetic Naturalism*
*Stay away from Naxal Fraud-Ambedkarite fraud-Islamo-Buddhists Conversion Racket. **#BandeMataram*
There was no RIGID Caste System in India before the European rule, but categorization of profession/work into seven types. This categorization of work was depicted as ‘caste’ in India by the British. Even the Vedas find no mention of caste, but ‘Varnas’, categorizing people on the basis of work. For example, two brothers born within the same family, one could be a Brahmin and other could be a Kshatriya based on their aptitude!
PS - The caste system is not part of true Hindu identity. The word Caste comes from the Portuguese word Casta; and the word Dalit was coined in the 20th century.
Caste system comes from manu and vedas,and you have the shameless audacity to reject that this system is not indic,vedic or a refuse of brahminism
@@louisjohn3458 where in the Vedas have said so
@@abhilash7381listen to Puri shankaracharya on cnn news 18 interview he will tell you clearly that caste =jati=varna =birth based and rigid
@@abhilash7381 ,the vedas which are basically a collection of some moral teachings and Indra the boss of heaven sorrounded by woman annd always with a wine goblin. Wow what an ideal , who created asuras and first decimated the non aryans ,the black indians,dirty onea .so no surprise manu and otheea were always inspired by the demogods of aryans
@@louisjohn3458says the followers of the book that gave divine sanctions to sl@very
Only preacher of today's sanatana Dharma is Aacharya Prashant 👍🙏🏼♥️
Correct
Yes...perfect
His English is mesmerizing
Indeed, cast is a construct of the Indian society and has nothing to do with the Hinduism as a faith.
Iam a christian but i support Mr. Tharoor on his take on Hinduthva..😊
Mohan and Christian. Anything is possible with "educated" south Indians. I saw one christian with the name natarajan reddy . Jesus becomes four handed Vishnu in southern India and becomes a two handed buddha in northern India. Hallelujah 😂😂😂
@@boulevard7863 Any thing possible with indian hindu.. they speak of the legacy of sanatan and vedic knowledge.. still 45 lakh indian diaspora in US.. I know one with name David Krishnan.. He chose a christian name and retained Hindu Surname.. similarly my family had been christian for centuries at least 15 centuries but in kerala we use many native name.. my grandfather chose 'Mohan'.I've no issue.. if somebody have issue, its their headache..And for this same reason South india runs far ahead in terms of develpment..
Very well said
Serve the God in man. Atmano moksharth jagat dhitaya cha. Salvation thru service of humanity
As professed by the ramakrishna order.
33 crore , so much of knowledge indeed
its not 33 crore its 33 koti. there is a big difference lol
@@sahilpawarrkoti means crore in Sanskrit, Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada, Telugu. I don't care what koti means in your urdufied hindi
Some geniuses below arent even getting the sarcasm
Mr. Tharoor - Swamiji is not a "Guy" - it's disrespectful to address him as a "Guy".
For tharoor, swamiji is a friend and guide. So whats your problem in that?
Essence of hindusim is that you treat your god in the way you want, as a powerful giant, as a friend, as a mother, as a formless entity. You can pray thru either elaborate poojas and rituals or you can pray thru simple meidtation. Thats the point of hinduism, which you are missing.
In the West or per English language the word "Guy" is a slang version of addressing a person. In my judgement, addressing Swami Vivekananda as a "Guy" is not only disrespectful but also an affront to his standing in Indian society and the world as well. @@abisheklunia
जब आप भारत में कंटेंट बना रहे हैं,तो लोगों के लिए इसे समझना आसान होगा यदि यह हिंदी में है।भारत की 50% जनसंख्या हिन्दी जानती है,मुझे आशा है कि आप अब से इसे हिन्दी में बनाएंगे।धन्यवाद🙏
Nationalism is hinduthva in this country, thats why nationalism is strong here now
I respect Mr tharoor but his idea of Indian history and Hinduism is very much influenced by English elite education from his time
Then u should read “kathamrito”.
There is no caste system in Hindudharma only varna based on work
Then why is caste discrimination in existence??😂
@@SK-vp9rt during British rule varnas are divided in to castes later political parties and caste leaders took advantage of it for their benefit
@@rajnambi2389 then what is manusmriti talking about or it also came from West or what 🙃??
@@SK-vp9rt what did it say
Just because he speaks English, dont interview him..Here in trivandrum, the central government does everything, what did he do as an mp?
He fear to debate with Rajiv Malhotra. Ask this #TenHeads of Ravana this question
Please don’t use the word of Rahul “Hindutva”.
Why don't you call Acharya Prashant ! It will me amazing to see his clarity!
It's so cute that shashi tharoor n other congressmen think that we can't watch his view abt swami vivekanand busted by j sai depak on u tube itself.
Every religion has some good thoughts and some that have gone wrong. It is a generally accepted thought that Hinduism shows "Tolerance" and shows "Acceptance". People say that because Muslim and Christianity came to the Hindu land. But, humans as humans have fought all the time. Thirugnanasambandar caused jains impalement ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambandar ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_of_the_Jains_in_Madurai ). Worst human torture done in the name of God and religion. Humans hold the thought that their thoughts are superior. That causes conflict. If Hinduism has Acceptance & Tolerance what would they do vs. what if they don't have Acceptance & Tolerance is to be given some "thinking".
For 2000 years there was no IIT, IIMs was there? There was no civil service, no IAS exams, no nationwide social welfare right? Caste system served a purpose for defining each other based on the job one did, unfortunately at some point the job one did because a reason for discrimination. Most Hindus, like myself, abhor the way caste is practiced nowadays. That doesn't mean that we should further categorize and separate each other through reservations. Even Dr BR Ambedkar mentioned that reservations were a short-term solution and it should be slowly weeded out in due time. That due time is now.
The due time is now ??? Caste based inequalities still perpetuate in Indian society . There were institutions where education was just reserved for upper caste. Don't say these fairy tale Stories
Lol Shashi tharoor is the last man to known about Hinduism.
His book "why I am Hindu" exposed his shallow and idiotic knowledge about Hinduism and Sanatan society.
Get Mr.Rajiv Malhotra and J Sai Deepak on Debate... with Mr. Shashi Tharoor...and see the fun...😂😂😂
Wt do they do just blame the west of biasedness spread Islamophobia
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There's no your truth or my truth, there's just THE TRUTH.
Well vedas rigveda gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal and nishadha which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination, mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means) , bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47)....with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated. So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed.
Alpesh, where did you learn all this?
@@PS-ej2xn he learned all these in bhimta school of philosophy. Bhimta ambedkar said he doesn't know Sanskrit but was criticising Hindu texts based on english translation.😂😂
@@boulevard7863 I will be curious to know if Alphesh has seen all those texts.
Alpesh, please try and understand Sanskrit before you slander these terms. Look around, caste is present in all its malicious forms. I was denied entry to a club because I was wearing shorts and slippers. Guess it's a problem only when temples do it. London is divided into 9 zones and happens to be economic and class divide too. Or be it in the Indian Army where they have strict biological requirements. So many companies reject your resume if you are not from an Ivy League or IIT. Or if one dares, we can also ask why common people rarely choose people with physical disabilities as their partners. Do we choose to look beyond our preferences and affinities?
I can't believe a learned person like Shashi Tharoor actually misquotes 33 Koti to 33 crore devas.
It's upto interpretation.
If he was in bjp, everyone would voted for him
If he can talk with Mr Sai Deepak, I challenge he will be keep quiet. His knowledge about Hinduism is very minimum.
Mr. Sai Deepak's knowledge about Indianness is abysmally low and borders on fanaticism which doesn't help in cementing the unity among different faiths. Hatred never win and will never win
😂😂😂Lots of Acharya Prashant fans have joined the comment section as he along with people like shashi tharoor are hell bent to mislead Hindus that Dharma is about completely non violence....pacifism..😂😂😂
Acharya Prashant is used one quote in popular ideas to discredit all people promoting Kshtriyata and he mislead all Hindus that even Mahabharata teaches about non violence...
He forgets that Mahabharata has several quotes that openly gives mesaage other wise..😂😂😂
He forgets that entire Mahabharata is about violence for establishing Dharma.
He forgets that Mahabharata and Ramayana is about social and political intervention for establishing dharma...😂😂😂
Lol..Shashi tharoor is the last man to known about Hinduism.
His book "why I am Hindu" exposed his shallow and idiotic knowledge about Hinduism and Sanatan society.
Get Mr.Rajiv Malhotra and J Sai Deepak on Debate... with Mr. Shashi Tharoor...and see the fun...😂😂😂
Hamarey ithnay be buray din nahi ayia ha ki hum "Dharm" ka mathlab Sai deepak jiso say sekay
india tolerated Gandhi family for more than 70 years....india is truly hindu rashtra
Wah what a fantastic twisting of Hinduism to suit nehru agenda, by logic of holding onto truth, what are madrassas in kerala teaching, Indian constitution?
what a joke I respect your truth, please respect my truth. My truth come with a please. what a joke
While I agree on his generalised comments, I feel Shaashi Tharoor overlooks the fact ...that we live in world where ..certain dominant religions sincerely believe...that it is their God given duty not to treat others as equals ..to convert, save their "souls" ...and take them in within their fold..This is a serious problem...because these religions think they have a right to condemn hinduism..while hindus are not allowed to do the same...which creates an uneven playing field for religious discussions...Defending and strengthening the hindu religion from being harassed and bullied by others...is what people like Shaashi Tharoor calls as "hindutua"..I have to ask him..do hindus go out converting others..and saying that they will burn in hell like the other religions???????.
False! Abrahamic religions teach peace, love and forgiveness. Only insecure people believe that their faith is constantly under attack.
It comes from an emotional and spiritual failure to accept the basic truth. The Truth : A good tree produces good fruit.
"..do hindus go out converting others..and saying that they will burn in hell like the other religions???????." it kinda have started now
Hindutva is a political tool
Yes tolerance is a good thing but once attacked, looted and forcefully changed other religion I don't think this pacifism is a good thing
we as Hindus have mainly practiced group amnesia from last 400 years
Nobody want to seek revenge, but forgetting is much more dangerous
S Tharoor don't know 0.001% of Hinduism.
Garv se Khao ham hindu hai 🙏😎
Caste system is made by the people who themselves had no indepth knowledge of what truly Hinduism is and created a structure to serve their "feudalism" self appealing prophecies
Hey Nikhil, I have been a fan of your channel particularly for the focus on deep yet fireside style conversation style on business.
Pls dont make this another TRS(The Ranveer Show).
Atleast I dont want to listen to the farts of this half informed and half researched guys.
Speaking in fkuent English helps him cover lot of flaws in his arguments(you must see how J Sai Deepak tore him down dignifiedly in stage in an event in chennai. Mr Tharoor was literally caught infront of the wickets).
That is what an "educated" person sounds like. You can't compare him to "literate" converted malyalis working blue collar jobs in middle east
This kamath guy is a colonial capitalist
Nikhil Kamath's story of how he grew up and worked his way to where he is, is inspiring and the man stays humble. Tharoor on the other hand lost the essence of what he was saying about Hinduism when he drew equivalence to Swami Vivekananda 01:25 and mentions that "I became a devotee if you like of Swami Vivekananda." Did he know that Sanatana Dharma existed many millenniums before his father moved to England? I should be considerate as a listener because Shashi was born and raised in another country? I should be considerate because his father dropped his last name and so he followed too? or should I be considerate because he wrote a book titled "Why I am Hindu".
To conclude - If Shashi Tharoor lived on a piece of land in India and George the Britisher came to his home, Shashi would more than willingly sell his land to George. He would even lift his skirt up for George and become George too.
No way his religious he is lying
What authority he has? Is he practicing Hinduism in a guru parampara? Otherwise you should not ask this sickular questions on Hinduism..Just because he speaks English, dont interview him..Here in trivandrum, the central government does everything, what did he do as an mp?
From comment section, you can see how urban pseudo liberals are going gaga over such stupid definition.
Shashi Tharoor is one of the head of Ravana in midern India Context.
Its upon Intellectual Kshatriya to cut it.
He is a hypocrite
He is good for nothing
As an Atheist I can say without ifs and buts, If you're with DMK, then you're aligning with Anti-Hindu forces.
I was going to vote for Congress. But since Congress has aligned with DMK and SP, I'm absolutely not going to vote for Congress and Anti-Hindu I.N.D.I.A alliance. If you're with Hinduphobe Anti-National DMK, and Anti-Hindu SP then you're Against Hindu and Bharat.
As an Atheist I say #StopConversion #SaveBharat There's no Bharat without Gita and one and only Dharma of Mahabharata.
Those who want Hinduism stay alive and maintain the Peace in Bharat, they must not vote for I.N.D.I.A alliance with DMK and SP.
If you're with DMK, you're not with Hindu or Bharat.
Hell with Congress for joining hand with such Anti-National Anti-Hindu forces.
If Congress and Shivsena has joined hands with DMK and SP, then no matter what you say, you're against Hindu and National Integrity.
DO NOT VOTE FOR CONGRESS amd I.N.D.I.A with DMK and SP.
Save Bharat, reject Anti-Hindu I.N.D.I.A #BandeMataram
If you're not a mazhabi, but a "Dharmik", then always remember the Principles of Bibekananda.
1. Never be a Fundamentalist fanatic.
2. Always put Science and Humanism over the Scriptures, and don't be afraid to reject anything unscientific inhuman things that you may come across while reading the Scriptures.
3. Everything Unscientific in the Scriptures should be treated as mistakes by the philosophers and scribes writing down the Dharmik books. And everything inhuman you come across are malformations in scriptures interpolated by the malevolent scribes.
4. Dharma is not Religion, as Theists and Atheists both are equal Dharmiks, and Theists have no higher ground over Atheists in Dharma.
5. "Dharma Raj" listens to both Gita and Charvak Rishi. Dharma is never conformist. And the moment Dharma puts Faith over Science and refuses to reject any part of the Scripture as being false, and the moment theists stops listening to the Atheists, and the moment Dharma denounces Atheism as being one of the most important legit position, and only Science can show the clue of deciding between theism and atheism, the moment Dharma denounces that it ceases to be "Dharma."
6. Dharma is not the way of Faith. Dharma is a way of SEEKING. Truth is even greater than God. Even Gods in Dharmik imaginations are shown to be seeking the Truth.
7. Vedas themselves are promoting Agnosticism. The standard position of Dharma is Agnostic.
8. But Vedas cannot ever be questioned with anything other than Science. No other Scripture in the whole world of any Belief System has superiority over Vedas, Upanishads, Gita, and all other Hindu Dharmik books.
9. Atheism is absolutely fine and Dharmik books shall ideally always be read from a pure Scientific Agnostic standpoint to find the gems hidden in the Hindu scriptures and reject the unscientific things and inhuman things mercilessly. But, pure atheism is fine, but "FAITH" OPPOSITE TO VEDAS IS ADHARMA. Therefore even Atheists are Dharmiks, and if they establish their points with Science then you should listen to them over all Scriptures, but never leave the useful knowledge of the Dharmik books, and even as an Atheist you should be an "Atheist Hindu" just like "Vaishnav Hindu", but all Abrahamic Fundamentalist believers who KNOWINGLY deny Vedas and Gita out of contradictory unscientific "Faith," they all are Adharmi. Adharmis shall be tolerated. But if your last place to stand is attacked then you have to pushback, like in Mahabharata.
10. Always enquire the Scriptures from a Scientific perspective, and don't hesitate a bit in rejecting anything unscientific that you may come across within the Scriptures. Always put Science over Scriptures and Faith if you're a true "Dharmik" in contrary to the Religion or Mazhab. Take whatever that suits you as Good and reject whatever that you find bad or unscientific. This's truly what Reformed Modern Hinduism of Bibekananda teaches.
11. Science is the most FUNDAMENTAL pillar of "Dharma," on the contrary to Religion. Vedas and Gita are "Central" to Dharma, but not "Fundamental." Hinduism is absolutely not Fundamentalist.
Scriptural Fundamentalism is Fundamental "Adharma" as Bibekananda suggested.
Dharma is NOT Faith. Dharma is Seeking and walking on the path of Truth.
And certainly, Science is the ONLY Truth we Know.
"Dharma : Seeking, Truthful Good Actions, ONEness (Oneness with the Universe, Oneness with ALL Humanity, Oneness with Everything)"
This is Hinduism or one and only "Dharma" as per Saint Swami Bibekananda.
Anyone who finds value in Hindu Scriptures are Hindus, be it a theist or an Atheist. This's the definition of being Hindu.
To a well-learned "Dharmik" Hindu, Atheists like Carl Sagan or Oppenheimer too are Hindus, as they saw value in Hindu philosophies and the Bharatiya (Indian) School of Thought.
Especially most of the Hindus you see abroad consciously reject (not reinterpreting or being apologist, just straight away rejects) parts or the Scriptures and still call themselves Hindus. It's unthinkable for any Muslim or other abrahamiks. Therefore nothing is more stupid than accusing Hindus of Casteism or any other ill practices, cause first of all it's not Caste that the Scriptures speak about, and Hindus are not bound by the Scriptures. It's pathetic to see people equating Islam and Hinduism.
"Hindu" is hardly a religious identity. It's a cultural identity. And Atheists are Hindus as well, who are connected to the philosophy of Bharat that is India. In fact, Hindus regularly pay tribute to the Atheist Sages. In fact, World's biggest gatherings occur in the "Kumbh Mela" by Hindus in respect of the Atheist Sage "Kapil Muni." Atheists who respectfully honestly explain Vedas or Gita or other Hindu books and literature from Scientific and Humanist perspectives, Hindus consider them as Sages. And for an Atheist, Hinduism should be considered as the "First Line of Defense" for real Secularism, against Abrahamic barbarianism.
Kuch bhi bolo lekin Tharki toh hai Tharoor
Shashi is shameless devotee of mubarak ali thusdubai feroze jehangir khan maino vinci dynasty. Better off become english lecturer in some community college in london.