Whenever I think of Seed, Miguel Aiman is the first character to pop in my head. Despite not being a Zaft Red pilot, he was good enough to have his own MS designed for him. If he had his own Jinn during the fight with Kira he probably would’ve survived. He still would’ve lost, but survived. He was done dirty in the show. They should’ve given him his own Spin Off about his encounter with serpent tail.
@@GundamHQ Oh yeah. Never Ending Tomorrow. I used to play that all the time when I was a kid. I still believe it has one of the best video game openings ever.
Yeah, about 30:28 and Flay's death. According to Fukuda in a 2003 interview after the show ended, Kira never heard what Flay wanted to tell him because she's a ghost. It was merely a way for the audience to know what Flay wanted to tell him but now never could. And if you look at the scene closely, they scripted and storyboarded it to hide that fact, but Kira's dialogue doesn't match up with Flay's. So, it's not really an etherial moment of understanding between the two because only the audience gets closure, not Kira.
@@alcatrazvongola Athrun is very skilled but best pilot of the 3?! That’s debatable. You gotta imagine how effective Kira’s Freedom would be if he fought every suit with the intent to kill right off the bat. It would make his work massively easier. Athrun is definitely Kira’s rival but he doesn’t have the same level of prowess to simply disarm opponents every single time. Athrun more than often goes for the kill. So in a sense that’s why he appears to be the most effective of the 3. Because Athrun’s skill is close to Kira’s and he’s a realist making him more effective. Basically Kira is playing on extreme difficulty because of his foolish ideals. Athrun is playing on Normal/ Hard Mode and is just there to get the job done.
No. That is not in line with his character AT ALL. Kira made a concerted effort to AVOID killing Athrun's companions all through the previous fights leading up to that. It is a good change that is more consistent with Kira's character.
You can hate Seed all you want but the strike vs aegis duel was one of the best scenes in gundam. It was written great imo and the build up to this moment was sweet
Thanks for making this vid. Gundam Wing was my introduction to Gundam. But Gundam Seed is what made me fall in love with it! Gundam Seed is my favorite universe in Gundam. It seemed more grounded in reality and didn’t have any magical mystical stuff going on like in other Universes. I loved the fact that they treated Mobile Suits (more specifically the Gundams) as machines and not super weapons. Gundams were just higher spec mobile suits. I understand why people don’t like it because it’s just a retelling of 'Mobile Suit Gundam', and because of the walking ex machina Kira (Jesus) Yamato. But it’s what made Gundam my favorite anime franchise.
You wanted grounded Gundams, check out 08th MS Team or Thunderbolt. Seed machines become unstoppable fleet killers that win or lose depending on space magic based on a poor understanding of genetics. OG Mobile Suits are just vehicles with pilots.
@@Blodhelm I meant the universe it's self. UC has that mystical New Type telekinesis BS. CE doesn't really have that instead of the Seed Factor. But I give that a pass.
@@ju5t1ce33the only good UC is OYW & origin, as far i care, zeta & up to CCA need serious rewrite Seed, while has convenient plot armor & willing to bend its reality, at least ended in closed book & doesn't get unnecessary sequel
Seed was honestly my favorite! Rau who I thought was some side villain turned out to be one of the best main villains in the history of the gundam franchise. His master manipulation and tactics stole the show for me. Providence Gundam was just the perfect final boss as well. Literally destroyed every remaining suit out there.
Still, he is the weakest gundam masked villain imo alongside chronicle n iron mask. Anyway it's nice to see kira learn from him and use the same talk no jutsu to defeat the wannabe rau
Thank you for this. I love Athrun mostly because Akira Ishida voices him but absolutely forgot what a cold killer he is. This is gonna help refresh my memory for when I watch the movie this weekend. XD Also fuck Flay I still hate her lol
@@dep3cheI watched destiny before seed for some reason and honestly it’s mostly repetitive fights but I still enjoy it. Mostly because of a big Kira x Lacus fan.
As someone who spent the entire first 17 days of april watching all of the SEED remaster, this is such a good summary lol! Also I love the Athrun slaughter scenes, very good my only regret is that you probably won't be able to get out the DESTINY one before the US showings of the new movie, but I will be excited to watch the vid regardless!!!
This was my introduction to the franchise. Despite its flaws, I found Cosmic Era's worldbuilding to be interesting. SEED is the revival of the franchise by returning to its all out war roots. If there's anything we can learn about Bloody Valentine War, it's "there are no winners". BVW is M.A.D.ness at the core seeing how both sides, led by extremists using WMDs on each other. Btw, Patrick tries to nuke Washington DC, Atlantic Federation's capital. Flay being a jerk imo, is more of an environmental one, leading to the question "is it nature or nurture". Seeing how AF is the hotbed of anti-Coordinator sentiment, it should be known that how much grip Blue Cosmos has over the politics, society and the most dangerous of all, MEDIA. Flay might be influenced through media. Her character could've been handled better though. Props to Kuwashima Houko for playing two characters at once! Yes; she voiced both Flay and Natarle. There's this thing been loitering around in my head which is had Fukuda didn't pull that Luke and Leia, Cagalli could've been the best foil and balance to Flay. Both even seems to be opposite of each other. Not to discredit Lacus but that's how I see it. Not to mention the war happens during the height of a cold war between Atlantic and Eurasian Federations. Think Cuban Missile Crisis level of tension between US and USSR but mix it with invasion from space of some sorts. That's why you see the Artemis troops being hostile because majority of the Archangel's original crew are from Atlantic Federation and they got the good stuff. Earth Alliance is fragile alliance at best, waiting to collapse at any moment. Alaska should've been the last straw for the alliance to continue, EA is basically a house of cards. You can say that Mu the American who makes impossible possible. Sounds Mu-rican alright. Btw, Patrick Zala is also from AF. The first Earth target? None other than WASHINGTON, DC. Justified it's the capital of the anti-Coordinator hotbed. It sounds as if as Fukuda tries to portray America or the West as a sort of "bad boy", for the lack of a better word and ORB is Japan but without Article 9 and it seemingly the ideal Japan to Fukuda. To drive that West thing home, look at the 3 new EA Gundams. The way I see them is they're Cosmic Era version of Wing (Raider), Heavyarms (Calamity) and Deathscythe (Forbidden). Guess what the first Gundam to be aired in the West? Sometimes, I hear people saying that Athrun is the true main protagonist. Idk but what do you think? Does he has the qualities of a main protagonist? Kira's survival could've been done better. The Strike's PS armor is still active meaning it still has power and the beam saber is still active. He could've cut the remaining legs, turn around at the last moment and let the Aile pack absorb the blast. The melted seat is one big headscratcher. The remaster should've kept the original footage. By the time the Archangel arrived at ORB, given the battles they've been through, Kira swing the sword by reflex should be a natural outcome. Rau's action made the whole mess even messier. He's the byproduct of humanity's unrelentless pursue of progress imo. His existence was due to a man who tries to bribe Death, with his wealth. But yeah, Death still catches up on Al. Hell, the Boosted Men and GSD's Extendeds are basically Spartan program. EA pulled an ONI and what Zala tries to do is basically GLASSING lol! Too bad Kira's an ensign instead of master chief petty officer. For some reason, the older I get and the more I watch SEED, Kira and Flay's dynamic hooked on me. Flay slowly becoming the mask she puts on and even after breaking up, she even ask Kira's whereabouts after the fight with Athrun cementing that her feeling is genuine. Still, Strike Kira is my favourite. Him inside the Freedom just makes him too perfect. Idk, maybe that's just me liking flawed characters. Everyone's got their own taste. If you're doing GSD, don't forget do Stargazer as well. I call it the "palate cleanser" for after watcthing GSD. Dang, this must the longest I've ever written. Sorry for the essay 😅.
Flay went from wanting Kira to die because he couldn't save her father, but when Kira was thought to be dead, Flay cried and regretted making Kira suffer.
My favorites are the three boosted men, specifically Cloto I felt bad for them, they were trained to beat the Coordinators but they were always reminded that they were inferior and ultimately wanted freedom(ironic) but were held back by Azrael.
@@mikloridden8276Since these 3 guys appeared, the alliance has proactively attacked the Zalf base to capture the Mass Driver and these 3 guys have almost wiped out the Zalft soldiers to open the way for nuclear attacks on Plant and Kira because of the distraction caused by Flay's request. saved but almost died at the hands of these 3 guys.
Good vocalization, good summary, good vibe, good storytelling and good jokes, keep at it! Just have some observations: *1:06: The Gundams here aren't explicitly called Gundams in-universe, but **G-Weapons**, this series is known to be the only one in the entire franchise to almost never call them Gundams, as if to add a sense of realism to the mechs involved. Kira only calls them Gundam when he sees the G-Weapon's Operating System's initials, General Unilateral Neurolink Dispersive Autonomic Maneuver (G.U.N.D.A.M OS), and in a later episode both La Flaga and Murdoch reference this fact and lampshade why Kira calls it as such. Almost everyone in-universe calls them mobile suits, mobile weapons, G-Project or G-Weapons. *11:22: Like you mentioned earlier, the G-Project was underway in Morgenroete and it was a collaboration between the EA's Atlantic Federation and Orb, but Orb did not create the entire G-Project nor made the OG G-Weapons, they were basically siphoning data from the Alliance so they can gather most of the technology being produced for these mechs as well as gather data on ship development and MS strategies. The G-Project itself is supposedly conceptualized (or even developed) by the 8th Fleet's Admiral, Dwayne (or Duane) Halberton as speculated by Le Creuset and his crew during the Battle of Orbit. Orb needed the tech to aid in their own MS development, which is what led to the Astray frames, Murasame etc. It is also notable that Kira made a big contribution to Orb's MS development by essentially remaking the OS for Naturals. Orb's collaboration does allow the Archangel and it's machines to be easily maintained when they stayed there. *27:53: The faction Lacus, Kira and the rest of the main homie gang trying to stop the war is called the Three Ships Alliance, unofficially.
Great points - I sadly really didn't have much time to dive into the hyper detailed aspects of the show so simply calling them Gundams and covering the basics of cross - development felt the most accessible to audiences who have either not seen it or haven't seen it in years. Plus I think its really annoying that Lacus goes out of her way to correct Kira on the title when its literally is color coded into the screen, wild.
@@MarkOwairan-w7eThe sequel was an absolute disaster and Shinn was so unlikeable as a main character fans wanted Kira back!The only way I got through Destiny was viewing Athrun as the main character and not Shinn.
Definitely - Mu, Murrue, Kira, Athrun, Cagalli, Flay, Lacus, and Rau all have some kind of daddy issues in this show. Actually insane when you notice it
@@GundamHQ I don't think Murrue had daddy issues (it's been a while since I last watch SEED btw). Cagalli, Lacus, Flay and Athrun are an interesting case. All lost their respective mothers (Lenore and VIa are the ones that mentioned killed, Uzumi might be single when he took Cagalli in and not much about Mrs. Allster and Mrs. Clyne as they're both presumably deceased) before the series proper and then losing their respective fathers throughout the series, starting with George, then Uzumi, and then Siegel and finally Patrick.
@Joshua_N-A some type of variations of it was what I meant - because her dad dying had an effect on how she saw other people/Mu. Just a funny thing to notice that everyone has something going on with their dad
I havn’t watched yet but, seriously THANKKKK YOU!! After your last SEED video I really hoped you’d do a recap of the series for my friends to catch up before the movie in May. Very very much appreciated so happy you’re making videos again ❤🎉
@@GundamHQ Well seriously thanks for looking out for the community while you’re already juggling life 🙏 Haha don’t take this as your fans already begging for more but, do you think you’ll tackle the events of Destiny as well in a similar format?
@tigerontop702 For sure but I don't wanna promise before the 7th, even though that's my main goal, my original goal was to have 3 videos done by then but they just kept getting longer
9:55 fun fact- this was Gundam Seeds "the beach episode". Every anime has one and Seed completely did it so differently but still important to the plot. Code geass saw this shit and did the exact same thing Also at the end.... I don't think rau ever told anyone on screen that he was behind it all- Kira just knew he was a problem who had to be taken out based on what he was saying (and kiras lack of rebuttal)
To be fair, Rau was using something that the entire human race in the real world has not been able to solve... like you expect a 15-16 year old boy to rebut a trap that countless adults throughout history are not only unable to solve, in fact, many had fallen into?
Lmao absolutely love your video your coverage of Athrun is GOLD!!! GIVEN THAT HE IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE JUSTICE (subscribing was easy)
It’s no wonder why Athrun felt so useless in the first episodes of Gundam Seed Destiny. He was so full of action in gundam seed. To be fair, he is indestructible if he is not in his headspace all the time.. and just to be on the sidelines for some time and guarding Cagalli who at the same time is pretty busy herself with rebuilding her nation, may have been mentally depressing for him. I even saw a comment in twitter that Athrun is like Shinn, determined and capable of nuking everyone but the only difference is he THINKS
Gundam seed is the first gundam series I ever watched😅 I really wanted to watch gundam seed destiny but everyone says it sucks so I skipped it and watched gundam 00 instead. Now I'm hooked on anything gundam that's not linked to the main timeline
I liked the dynamics between Kira and Athrun, two friends on opposite sides of a war, as both of them struggles to find the answer in this chaos: What is more important in wartime, friendship or duty? Kind of makes you wonder, if you and your best friend met on opposite side of a battlefield, can either of you have the guts to pull the trigger, or risk being persuaded to join the other side and betray your faction. The mechanical designs and new technologies are also a lot more diverse than the older eras, more contemporary and believable.
Great video it's good to see some seed love! Just recently rewatched for the first time since I was a kid and I wasn't expecting as much hate that I've seen on the internet. After rewatching it it took my top spot over Gundam 00 I love it
This was a great recap! I forgot how bad some characters looked early in this show but it got better as it went on. I also forgot how great of a soap opera this series was.
And after all this time I STILL can’t find myself liking this or any related seed stuff. I don’t think I will ever understand the appeal but , I had to try one last time. Great work and Great video!! this made it actually bearable.
Having my son watch this with me so we can catch Seed Freedom in May. Thank you for doing this. I do hope you get to Destiny as well because, like @greendog629, I won’t be able to get my son to sit through Seed and Seed Destiny. Thanks again!
I dont know why some people are hating Seed. It's actually really good and I loved it to this day. Kickass mobile suits and a good war storyline that's pretty realistic, it was pretty good imo. Seed Destiny tho... well they had cool new gundams I suppose
Good summary, but, dude, I play Inverted controls and I'm good at those games I play. It's just a a different way of seeing things. For me , my mind sees it like a camera on a tripod. You pull left, lens moves to the right, pull right, your view swings left, pull down you see up etc. We're not stupid, just see it differently.
I couldn’t find your similar summary approach to Gundam Seed Destiny; are you currently working on it? Was hoping to watch that too before catching Seed Freedom in theatres soon!
One often forgotten thing in SEED'verse by many is that canonically, only those certain weird kids are the only ones that call those special units "Gundam" & everyone else doesn't. Ask almost everyone in-universe & they'll just go "What da EFFs a Gundam?"
Favourite differences with remastered and HD. Kira vs mu sparring freedom vs strike. HD uses white fake beam sabers while remastered uses orange glowing ones. Cagalli takes a bath at the white tigers HQ vs taking a shower
PLEASE DO THE SAME FOR SEED DESTINY 😭🙏 i miss my poor blonde boi Rey Za Burrel and his papa Gil on screen lately ✨ loving your channel for reviving my love of Gundam again in my late 20s!!
What is the music that started at the 4 minute mark also after watching this and getting a refresher of the series I will never under the distaste about this series outside of voice acting
Hey - thanks for the reminder! I guess I forgot to put those in the description so I'll have to get to it when I next get the chance. I believe the song you're looking for is "Cool Edge (Night)" from Sonic Unleashed.
What's your favorite Gundam from SEED?
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Whenever I think of Seed, Miguel Aiman is the first character to pop in my head. Despite not being a Zaft Red pilot, he was good enough to have his own MS designed for him. If he had his own Jinn during the fight with Kira he probably would’ve survived. He still would’ve lost, but survived. He was done dirty in the show. They should’ve given him his own Spin Off about his encounter with serpent tail.
@@ju5t1ce33 yeah sadly the only animation it ever got was in the PS2 game 😔
@@GundamHQ Oh yeah. Never Ending Tomorrow. I used to play that all the time when I was a kid. I still believe it has one of the best video game openings ever.
Blitz is easily the best. So sick
"Gundam Seed came out 20 years ago..." that hurt more than it should have...
hahahaha... i feel old reading this.... Gundam Seed is my favorite series as a kid despite watching older gundam when i was much much younger.
Yeah hahaha feels like only yesterday
Im not Old ... fuck I am old...
22 actually
@@gundamnduke0 i saw this live in japan in 2003..... im 34..... fuck im old
20:34 "the world's most dangerous pacifist meets the world's most forgiving mass murderer" the best sentence i heard
Never realize how blood thirsty Athrun was, probably need a kill counter for Athrun at this rate.
Yeah, about 30:28 and Flay's death. According to Fukuda in a 2003 interview after the show ended, Kira never heard what Flay wanted to tell him because she's a ghost. It was merely a way for the audience to know what Flay wanted to tell him but now never could. And if you look at the scene closely, they scripted and storyboarded it to hide that fact, but Kira's dialogue doesn't match up with Flay's.
So, it's not really an etherial moment of understanding between the two because only the audience gets closure, not Kira.
I know right?! I read that way back when, too! That hurt like a truck when I read that he didn't hear anything. 😭😭
Athrun sure went on a killstreak during the series and I totally forgot about it. Man was calling out a tactical nuke every fight he got into.
A lot of people forget how skilled Athrun is as a pilot in the original series! It makes sense why he's Kira's rival.
@@alcatrazvongolahe still murders like half the federation in destiny it’s just a shame that he wasn’t the main character
@@willvermillion1025 Even Fukuda acknowledges that Athrun is the best pilot of the three in one of the most recent Freedom interviews.
@@alcatrazvongola he’s definitely the best character in seed that’s for sure
@@alcatrazvongola Athrun is very skilled but best pilot of the 3?! That’s debatable. You gotta imagine how effective Kira’s Freedom would be if he fought every suit with the intent to kill right off the bat. It would make his work massively easier. Athrun is definitely Kira’s rival but he doesn’t have the same level of prowess to simply disarm opponents every single time. Athrun more than often goes for the kill. So in a sense that’s why he appears to be the most effective of the 3. Because Athrun’s skill is close to Kira’s and he’s a realist making him more effective.
Basically Kira is playing on extreme difficulty because of his foolish ideals.
Athrun is playing on Normal/ Hard Mode and is just there to get the job done.
"what happens when the world's most dangerous pacifist meets the world's most forgiving mass murderer" 😂
I love Gundam SEED because of the suit's designs
Definitely some of the most iconic for me too
Courtesy of Kunio Okawara.
It's the only good thing that series had.
Athrun have a weird habit of self destruct his Suit
Remember kids. Kira Killed Nicol. Not by accident but by Reflex
Will forever be one of the dumbest changes in the history of re-releases
#kiraswungfirst
Dammit Fukuda!! Should've kept that in the remaster.
He was also 15, and he loved playing the piano
No. That is not in line with his character AT ALL. Kira made a concerted effort to AVOID killing Athrun's companions all through the previous fights leading up to that. It is a good change that is more consistent with Kira's character.
You can hate Seed all you want but the strike vs aegis duel was one of the best scenes in gundam. It was written great imo and the build up to this moment was sweet
I only hate how Kira doesn't have the guts to kill. He has to for everyone
Thanks for making this vid. Gundam Wing was my introduction to Gundam. But Gundam Seed is what made me fall in love with it! Gundam Seed is my favorite universe in Gundam. It seemed more grounded in reality and didn’t have any magical mystical stuff going on like in other Universes. I loved the fact that they treated Mobile Suits (more specifically the Gundams) as machines and not super weapons. Gundams were just higher spec mobile suits. I understand why people don’t like it because it’s just a retelling of 'Mobile Suit Gundam', and because of the walking ex machina Kira (Jesus) Yamato. But it’s what made Gundam my favorite anime franchise.
I think the very start is a retelling but after the first 5 or 6 episodes there really isn't much that's the same
@@GundamHQ True
You wanted grounded Gundams, check out 08th MS Team or Thunderbolt. Seed machines become unstoppable fleet killers that win or lose depending on space magic based on a poor understanding of genetics. OG Mobile Suits are just vehicles with pilots.
@@Blodhelm I meant the universe it's self. UC has that mystical New Type telekinesis BS. CE doesn't really have that instead of the Seed Factor. But I give that a pass.
@@ju5t1ce33the only good UC is OYW & origin, as far i care, zeta & up to CCA need serious rewrite
Seed, while has convenient plot armor & willing to bend its reality, at least ended in closed book & doesn't get unnecessary sequel
Please do Destiny. That is a hot mess that needs to be summarized.
And a HD Remaster vs. Original video would be interesting as well.
Yes to both!
Destiny was awesome
I never watched Destiny Because it was a hot mess but I'd love a well done video summarizing it for me.
Destiny was a good 38 episode series.
What didn’t happen is the real question.
😂😂😂
I'm a fan of this series and even I cant refute this, lol!
Just watch gundam seed destiny for your question.
Nah how it did is the real question
Sai having a healthy relationship and not getting cucked
athren zalas hit marker that registered the the killing blow to kiras sis was on point........ OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!"SHAO KHANS VOICE"
Yes for part two and the differences between the original and the remaster
Seed was honestly my favorite! Rau who I thought was some side villain turned out to be one of the best main villains in the history of the gundam franchise. His master manipulation and tactics stole the show for me. Providence Gundam was just the perfect final boss as well. Literally destroyed every remaining suit out there.
And both voice actors stole the show
Still, he is the weakest gundam masked villain imo alongside chronicle n iron mask.
Anyway it's nice to see kira learn from him and use the same talk no jutsu to defeat the wannabe rau
@@trollinoakenshield9822 ok….. 😒.
@@trollinoakenshield9822lol, no, just no. Chronicle is just pathetic
@@gundamnduke0 even the punching bag jerid fare better against the MC than him.
The fact you use the original Ocean Dub makes you the biggest chad ever. Thank you.
Yesss, also the fact I'm a seed fan, I sometimes call my bird "Birdy" whenever I let him out of the cage lolol
Isn't it just bird in japanese too 😂
Torii
@@bacd-nn2lg tori means bird
28:28 Kira makes them suffer in cold space but Athrun gives them the sweet release of death😂
😂😂
The letterboxing + music on Athrun’s scenes are hilarious 😂
This recap is so good. Subbed!
Thank you for this. I love Athrun mostly because Akira Ishida voices him but absolutely forgot what a cold killer he is. This is gonna help refresh my memory for when I watch the movie this weekend. XD Also fuck Flay I still hate her lol
2015 hit marker sound goes crazy
Please do Gundam Seed Destiny next
Yes, I second this. I don’t want to spend the time just to find out it sucked!
@@dep3cheI watched destiny before seed for some reason and honestly it’s mostly repetitive fights but I still enjoy it. Mostly because of a big Kira x Lacus fan.
As someone who spent the entire first 17 days of april watching all of the SEED remaster, this is such a good summary lol! Also I love the Athrun slaughter scenes, very good
my only regret is that you probably won't be able to get out the DESTINY one before the US showings of the new movie, but I will be excited to watch the vid regardless!!!
If it doesn't come out by the 6th it won't be for a lack of trying - time for a few all nighters 😎
This was my introduction to the franchise. Despite its flaws, I found Cosmic Era's worldbuilding to be interesting. SEED is the revival of the franchise by returning to its all out war roots. If there's anything we can learn about Bloody Valentine War, it's "there are no winners". BVW is M.A.D.ness at the core seeing how both sides, led by extremists using WMDs on each other. Btw, Patrick tries to nuke Washington DC, Atlantic Federation's capital.
Flay being a jerk imo, is more of an environmental one, leading to the question "is it nature or nurture". Seeing how AF is the hotbed of anti-Coordinator sentiment, it should be known that how much grip Blue Cosmos has over the politics, society and the most dangerous of all, MEDIA. Flay might be influenced through media. Her character could've been handled better though. Props to Kuwashima Houko for playing two characters at once! Yes; she voiced both Flay and Natarle. There's this thing been loitering around in my head which is had Fukuda didn't pull that Luke and Leia, Cagalli could've been the best foil and balance to Flay. Both even seems to be opposite of each other. Not to discredit Lacus but that's how I see it.
Not to mention the war happens during the height of a cold war between Atlantic and Eurasian Federations. Think Cuban Missile Crisis level of tension between US and USSR but mix it with invasion from space of some sorts. That's why you see the Artemis troops being hostile because majority of the Archangel's original crew are from Atlantic Federation and they got the good stuff. Earth Alliance is fragile alliance at best, waiting to collapse at any moment. Alaska should've been the last straw for the alliance to continue, EA is basically a house of cards. You can say that Mu the American who makes impossible possible. Sounds Mu-rican alright. Btw, Patrick Zala is also from AF. The first Earth target? None other than WASHINGTON, DC. Justified it's the capital of the anti-Coordinator hotbed. It sounds as if as Fukuda tries to portray America or the West as a sort of "bad boy", for the lack of a better word and ORB is Japan but without Article 9 and it seemingly the ideal Japan to Fukuda. To drive that West thing home, look at the 3 new EA Gundams. The way I see them is they're Cosmic Era version of Wing (Raider), Heavyarms (Calamity) and Deathscythe (Forbidden). Guess what the first Gundam to be aired in the West?
Sometimes, I hear people saying that Athrun is the true main protagonist. Idk but what do you think? Does he has the qualities of a main protagonist? Kira's survival could've been done better. The Strike's PS armor is still active meaning it still has power and the beam saber is still active. He could've cut the remaining legs, turn around at the last moment and let the Aile pack absorb the blast. The melted seat is one big headscratcher. The remaster should've kept the original footage. By the time the Archangel arrived at ORB, given the battles they've been through, Kira swing the sword by reflex should be a natural outcome.
Rau's action made the whole mess even messier. He's the byproduct of humanity's unrelentless pursue of progress imo. His existence was due to a man who tries to bribe Death, with his wealth. But yeah, Death still catches up on Al.
Hell, the Boosted Men and GSD's Extendeds are basically Spartan program. EA pulled an ONI and what Zala tries to do is basically GLASSING lol! Too bad Kira's an ensign instead of master chief petty officer.
For some reason, the older I get and the more I watch SEED, Kira and Flay's dynamic hooked on me. Flay slowly becoming the mask she puts on and even after breaking up, she even ask Kira's whereabouts after the fight with Athrun cementing that her feeling is genuine. Still, Strike Kira is my favourite. Him inside the Freedom just makes him too perfect. Idk, maybe that's just me liking flawed characters. Everyone's got their own taste.
If you're doing GSD, don't forget do Stargazer as well. I call it the "palate cleanser" for after watcthing GSD.
Dang, this must the longest I've ever written. Sorry for the essay 😅.
Flay went from wanting Kira to die because he couldn't save her father, but when Kira was thought to be dead, Flay cried and regretted making Kira suffer.
My favorites are the three boosted men, specifically Cloto I felt bad for them, they were trained to beat the Coordinators but they were always reminded that they were inferior and ultimately wanted freedom(ironic) but were held back by Azrael.
Those 3 guys caused a lot of trouble for Kira and Arthrun. Besides those 2, no one could stop those 3 guys.
@@KenKing-d2o Exactly! Hell they almost killed Kira if it wasn’t for plot armor, you can see the freedom getting destroyed by Raider alone
@@mikloridden8276Since these 3 guys appeared, the alliance has proactively attacked the Zalf base to capture the Mass Driver and these 3 guys have almost wiped out the Zalft soldiers to open the way for nuclear attacks on Plant and Kira because of the distraction caused by Flay's request. saved but almost died at the hands of these 3 guys.
Thank you for this!!! I definitely want the Destiny recap ❤
Good vocalization, good summary, good vibe, good storytelling and good jokes, keep at it!
Just have some observations:
*1:06: The Gundams here aren't explicitly called Gundams in-universe, but **G-Weapons**, this series is known to be the only one in the entire franchise to almost never call them Gundams, as if to add a sense of realism to the mechs involved. Kira only calls them Gundam when he sees the G-Weapon's Operating System's initials, General Unilateral Neurolink Dispersive Autonomic Maneuver (G.U.N.D.A.M OS), and in a later episode both La Flaga and Murdoch reference this fact and lampshade why Kira calls it as such. Almost everyone in-universe calls them mobile suits, mobile weapons, G-Project or G-Weapons.
*11:22: Like you mentioned earlier, the G-Project was underway in Morgenroete and it was a collaboration between the EA's Atlantic Federation and Orb, but Orb did not create the entire G-Project nor made the OG G-Weapons, they were basically siphoning data from the Alliance so they can gather most of the technology being produced for these mechs as well as gather data on ship development and MS strategies. The G-Project itself is supposedly conceptualized (or even developed) by the 8th Fleet's Admiral, Dwayne (or Duane) Halberton as speculated by Le Creuset and his crew during the Battle of Orbit. Orb needed the tech to aid in their own MS development, which is what led to the Astray frames, Murasame etc. It is also notable that Kira made a big contribution to Orb's MS development by essentially remaking the OS for Naturals. Orb's collaboration does allow the Archangel and it's machines to be easily maintained when they stayed there.
*27:53: The faction Lacus, Kira and the rest of the main homie gang trying to stop the war is called the Three Ships Alliance, unofficially.
Great points - I sadly really didn't have much time to dive into the hyper detailed aspects of the show so simply calling them Gundams and covering the basics of cross - development felt the most accessible to audiences who have either not seen it or haven't seen it in years.
Plus I think its really annoying that Lacus goes out of her way to correct Kira on the title when its literally is color coded into the screen, wild.
I remember finding out about the fatal swing Kira gives Nicol from the gundam seed game.
I never knew this series was this good.
I'll give the sequel a try.
Thanks.
Fair warning the sequel's...not quite as good.
@@GundamHQ Counterwarning: Better. The MC's have more grit to them, which is something American fans dislike for some reason.
@user-dg7zv7yi9t I just think the pacing a character decisions are questionable at times but still nostalgic for it
@@MarkOwairan-w7eThe sequel was an absolute disaster and Shinn was so unlikeable as a main character fans wanted Kira back!The only way I got through Destiny was viewing Athrun as the main character and not Shinn.
22:49
No offense to Rau, but he is the epitome of "daddy issuses", he's a clone of his father.
Definitely - Mu, Murrue, Kira, Athrun, Cagalli, Flay, Lacus, and Rau all have some kind of daddy issues in this show. Actually insane when you notice it
@@GundamHQ I don't think Murrue had daddy issues (it's been a while since I last watch SEED btw). Cagalli, Lacus, Flay and Athrun are an interesting case. All lost their respective mothers (Lenore and VIa are the ones that mentioned killed, Uzumi might be single when he took Cagalli in and not much about Mrs. Allster and Mrs. Clyne as they're both presumably deceased) before the series proper and then losing their respective fathers throughout the series, starting with George, then Uzumi, and then Siegel and finally Patrick.
@Joshua_N-A some type of variations of it was what I meant - because her dad dying had an effect on how she saw other people/Mu. Just a funny thing to notice that everyone has something going on with their dad
@@GundamHQI'd wager Kira had double the daddy issue.
In Seed Destiny, Kira's adoptive dad is completely absent while his adoptive mom is there.
I never realized they redid Nicols death that is so dumb dude
Gundam's own Han Shot First moment
this was the funniest breakdown i’ve watched in a while, sub deserved lol
I havn’t watched yet but, seriously THANKKKK YOU!! After your last SEED video I really hoped you’d do a recap of the series for my friends to catch up before the movie in May. Very very much appreciated so happy you’re making videos again ❤🎉
Was wanting to get this done forever ago 💀 but with graduation and work this took way longer than planned
@@GundamHQ Well seriously thanks for looking out for the community while you’re already juggling life 🙏 Haha don’t take this as your fans already begging for more but, do you think you’ll tackle the events of Destiny as well in a similar format?
@tigerontop702 For sure but I don't wanna promise before the 7th, even though that's my main goal, my original goal was to have 3 videos done by then but they just kept getting longer
9:55 fun fact- this was Gundam Seeds "the beach episode". Every anime has one and Seed completely did it so differently but still important to the plot.
Code geass saw this shit and did the exact same thing
Also at the end.... I don't think rau ever told anyone on screen that he was behind it all- Kira just knew he was a problem who had to be taken out based on what he was saying (and kiras lack of rebuttal)
He reveals his motivations to Kira - which in sheds light on everything for the audience is more so how I was trying to frame it
To be fair, Rau was using something that the entire human race in the real world has not been able to solve... like you expect a 15-16 year old boy to rebut a trap that countless adults throughout history are not only unable to solve, in fact, many had fallen into?
I dont know you, I don't know how I got here or even why, but I'm glad I did. This is really well done.
Best recap and explanation for Gundam Seed Series. I hope more Gundam series recaps will show soon in the future. Thank you
haha love the athrun memes. with the introduction of the seed movie, we can definitely say for sure that athrun is the strongest coordinator
the rau ultimate coordinator speech/rant is one of the greatest scenes
Lmao absolutely love your video your coverage of Athrun is GOLD!!! GIVEN THAT HE IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE JUSTICE (subscribing was easy)
Athrun is a pure murder machine 🙏
It’s no wonder why Athrun felt so useless in the first episodes of Gundam Seed Destiny. He was so full of action in gundam seed. To be fair, he is indestructible if he is not in his headspace all the time.. and just to be on the sidelines for some time and guarding Cagalli who at the same time is pretty busy herself with rebuilding her nation, may have been mentally depressing for him. I even saw a comment in twitter that Athrun is like Shinn, determined and capable of nuking everyone but the only difference is he THINKS
Gundam seed is the first gundam series I ever watched😅 I really wanted to watch gundam seed destiny but everyone says it sucks so I skipped it and watched gundam 00 instead. Now I'm hooked on anything gundam that's not linked to the main timeline
how is this not even 10,000 likes yet???
I liked the dynamics between Kira and Athrun, two friends on opposite sides of a war, as both of them struggles to find the answer in this chaos: What is more important in wartime, friendship or duty? Kind of makes you wonder, if you and your best friend met on opposite side of a battlefield, can either of you have the guts to pull the trigger, or risk being persuaded to join the other side and betray your faction.
The mechanical designs and new technologies are also a lot more diverse than the older eras, more contemporary and believable.
16:02 just wow, glorious ad insert 😂👏🏽
i didnt know how much funnier cod hit markers make stuff
Kira vs Rau was some of the best 1v1 in Gundam especially with Rau’s whole expositions and Kira being conflicted. Rau dies thinking he won.
Rau did won cuz there are still no peace in CE universe, also kira stupid believe killed more people than other gundam MC.
This was an amazing recap video!! Im immediately joining your patreon and excited to see your recap of Destiny!!
Glad you liked it! Seems like people are really liking these types of videos so I might just have to keep doing them in the future
Yea flay was a hardcore racist. That girl would call them coordinator with a hard R.
Coordinata
Although Mu got absolutly screwed in the strike. The fact he kept up with as many shots as he did was somthing on its own.
Great video it's good to see some seed love! Just recently rewatched for the first time since I was a kid and I wasn't expecting as much hate that I've seen on the internet. After rewatching it it took my top spot over Gundam 00 I love it
Please cover the differences between the HD remaster and the original series 😭😭
This was a great recap! I forgot how bad some characters looked early in this show but it got better as it went on. I also forgot how great of a soap opera this series was.
And after all this time I STILL can’t find myself liking this or any related seed stuff. I don’t think I will ever understand the appeal but , I had to try one last time.
Great work and Great video!! this made it actually bearable.
Man I forgot how much of an absolute unit Athrun was in Seed.
favorite series... then Gundam 00
Thanks! I truly love this series.
I'm in desperate need for a Destiny recap
thank you for this! would love to see a destiny recap :)
The sonic music was a great touch actually
lol the most dangerous pacifist met the most forgiving mass murd3rer
The most accurate description I could come up with
Gundam Breaker 4 content coming? I am slowly getting hooked on the Seed suits after both of the Gundam Builders shows and the OVA.
Refreshing my history before breaker 4 drops and all I can say is amazing video.
Looks like Nukes are back on the menu boys! 25:26
NGL, we need more videos like this covering other gundam series!
Yes do one for destiny please! Got tickets for me and wife for seed freedom but can’t convince her to sit through both series 😂
You'll have to let me know if she's even willing to sit through this one
@@GundamHQshe was willing to and she just did!!! 😂
Having my son watch this with me so we can catch Seed Freedom in May. Thank you for doing this. I do hope you get to Destiny as well because, like @greendog629, I won’t be able to get my son to sit through Seed and Seed Destiny. Thanks again!
from this video i can safely assume that the rivalry between Yzak and Athrun is about who is the most blood thirst monster on battlefield
I dont know why some people are hating Seed. It's actually really good and I loved it to this day. Kickass mobile suits and a good war storyline that's pretty realistic, it was pretty good imo. Seed Destiny tho... well they had cool new gundams I suppose
19:22 you mean druggies
Cause most people call them that
Seed was the bomb! Music was awesome, the bad guy was awesome!
Good summary, but, dude, I play Inverted controls and I'm good at those games I play. It's just a a different way of seeing things. For me , my mind sees it like a camera on a tripod.
You pull left, lens moves to the right, pull right, your view swings left, pull down you see up etc. We're not stupid, just see it differently.
I couldn’t find your similar summary approach to Gundam Seed Destiny; are you currently working on it? Was hoping to watch that too before catching Seed Freedom in theatres soon!
"Everyone has a daddy issue" - My fav quote
RIP ArchAngel 2001-2024
It still makes me sad that Maru never knew Natarle was fighting for her life and tried to save the Archangel
One often forgotten thing in SEED'verse by many is that canonically, only those certain weird kids are the only ones that call those special units "Gundam" & everyone else doesn't. Ask almost everyone in-universe & they'll just go "What da EFFs a Gundam?"
Watching the series now. Didn't know about destiny or freedom so thanks.
Ur the best Gundam story teller
Thanks I appreciate that, very new territory for me
I remember loving it 20 years ago but also thinking it was a beat by beat retelling of the OG gundam series for most of it.
I am here because I can no longer recall the things that happened when I first watched gundam seed. basically when I was a child
I made this because I guarantee you're not alone!
Favourite differences with remastered and HD.
Kira vs mu sparring freedom vs strike. HD uses white fake beam sabers while remastered uses orange glowing ones.
Cagalli takes a bath at the white tigers HQ vs taking a shower
Cause Daddy Issues is real and can be quite lethal if not addressed early on. 😰
This is a fantastic recap!!! Please do Destiny next!
Good video!
Any time I m thinking about watching Seed I remember the amount of plot armor Kira has
All these views and not enough likes? Wtf guys. If you clicked on the video, you are at least interested.
25:04 with this treasure I summon... ALL THE NUKES!
PLEASE DO THE SAME FOR SEED DESTINY 😭🙏 i miss my poor blonde boi Rey Za Burrel and his papa Gil on screen lately ✨ loving your channel for reviving my love of Gundam again in my late 20s!!
Yes i need the difference between remastered and original series
This is now my preferred dub of the series.
Please do Destiny as well!!
I don't remember the plot
but I remember the clip show episodes like it was yesterday
This was my first Gundam, I love it. I’ll even defend Destiny.
Athrun with shadows white jungle is funny as hell lol
Damn, gotta love the Sonic unleashed music haha
11:58 it was at this moment, that Flay became a Phase Connect vtuber.
so many memories
What is the music that started at the 4 minute mark also after watching this and getting a refresher of the series I will never under the distaste about this series outside of voice acting
Hey - thanks for the reminder! I guess I forgot to put those in the description so I'll have to get to it when I next get the chance.
I believe the song you're looking for is "Cool Edge (Night)" from Sonic Unleashed.
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