VHS horror on a CRT is like nothing else, it really makes a big difference to the atmosphere and immersion. It looks “worse”, but thats certainly kind of the point.
Nah, you're just showing your age. You are just nostalgic for shitty VHS quality. We all do it with something. You'll never convince me that PS5 is better than N64, even though it clearly is.
@@n64fan60 nostalgia might play a factor but it’s not the only reason, some stuff just works better when it’s grainy and at a lower resolution, og TCM or most 80s Slashers for example. It really is something that just adds to Horror movies but not much else.
@dkres82 Dude ask yourself- how many people under the age of 30 seek out old VHS tapes of old horror films, rather than just watching them on Netflix? It's probably almost none. If you love VHS - it's because you're over 40, and watching VHS tapes of old films is just you reliving your youth. Nothing more. We're talking about cinematic films cropped to 4:3 and transferred to magnetic tape that degrades over time. Insanity/nostalgia lol 😂
Nostalgia does come into play, but experience is a huge part as well, it’s why gamers choose to drop hundreds of dollars on a CRT to play N64 games, those can be played on a modern TV too in most cases, but it’s not how it was intended to be played. I’m glad you enjoy streaming though, there’s nothing wrong with having the convenience of everything at your fingertips, however collecting is and has always been about experience. Also so many people have went back to vinyl for music, which shows people like to own their favourites, people hate to feel like they’re being controlled by a streaming service, or want a better overall experience or sound.
Totally agreed- Texas Chainsaw is a great example that comes to my mind as a movie already shot with a bit of a “grainy/old feeling.” I think this also almost adds an element of a home movie, as if there’s a viewer behind a fourth wall recording the events with a home camera. Love your content man! Excited for more of your videos.
I’ve had this chat so many times with my friends. Growing up as a kid in the 90s I watched The Crow on vhs (still have it). I watched it on dvd and it lost some of its magic. It had this dark grittiness to it on vhs which suits that movie so well.
I did noticed a huge difference when watching older movies on 4K UHD. They look very impressive but you do get a totally different experience and takes something away in return. I told my cousin that im not sure if watching older movies on current technology the best way to watch them. So I completely understand what you're talking about.
Yeah I know for sure Nightmare on Elm Street was uncut on VHS and I think The Evil Dead actually was filmed in the standard aspect ratio and it way scarier in that format, same with Re-Animator. Although I personally just go for the HD for convenience.
My experience was walking through the video store for hours was a whole experience in itself. Cheap Tuesday Weeklys Playing Arcades I've recently bought 400 VHS cause I just think VHS is where the memories are, people don't realise how much of our lives we spent at the video store looking for our entertainment.
I always went for their 7 movies for 7 days for Au$7 deals. It literally took me about one and a half hours to choose what to watch. The first four or five were easy, but I had to get the last two to get the bulk discount or it would cost more for the first few.
I still watch VHS movies, especially from the early 80s and my preference for movies of that era is DVD over Blu-ray. If you hook up a VHS or DVD player to an old 720P HD Ready LCD monitor with a screen size no bigger than about 32" then you're going to get a good image quality at those lower resolutions. When you start trying to play these on larger, higher resolution TVs then you're really going to struggle getting an acceptable image quality. CRTs are obviously the most authentic way to go but they are starting to get old and harder to service as the years move on. Anyways, keep up the awesome work :-)
This is why I don't zoom to fill DVD movies on my 50 inch 4k Samsung TV not even regular blurays. I don't like letter box 2.40:1 because picture real estate is tiny but if it's a DVD, I just watch in original aspect ratio to avoid pixelated video quality. If its a Bluray, I can have a bigger zoom and maintain high picture quality.
Blockbuster Movie Rental ... It reminds of Friday evenings going into Blockbuster movie rentals with my mom to rent Terminator 2 and whatever action sci fi movies in my youth days in the 90s.😅😅😅
I agree with everything you said 100 percent. I've also found that I like watching both 4k and blu ray versions of movies because they usually look drastically different. Different color saturation and grain. Why choose when you can have all. I like to switch it up.
For all the reasons he said. I'm watching army of darkness tv edition right now because it has alternate scenes that aren't in any other version. It also has dog shit quality picture but it's nice to see it and remember how bad things use to look and compare how much better they are now.
I'm not sure which I prefer. VHS definitely has more nostalgia. That's the main reason I kept all my ex-hire VHS tapes of all the A Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Nostalgia's probably also the reason why most of the ex-hire tapes are being sold for far more than the entire DVD boxed set of A Nightmare on Elm Street. I've seen a couple of them being sold for about AU$300. The entire, brand new, DVD boxed set only cost me AU$17 on sale down from about $25.
A lot of older horror movies were 4:3 and was cropped on top and bottom to meet the new trend of everything must be widescreen 16:9. The older cheap 35mm and 16mm film stock that was used by most directors was 4:3 aspect and was turned into other aspects in the editing room to match what they was going for with the film. The Shining, Nightmare on Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw, and not the first but the later sequels like 4 and 5 of Halloween all used this type of film stock.
But that doesn't mean the directors wanted it to be viewed as 4:3 and pan and scan certainly destroys any claim that this was how it was meant to be seen.
@@zonger420 Many horror videos were pan and scan on VHS, so you didn't have a choice. And I'd like to see a citation for the studio choosing the aspect ratio over the director.
@@andysmith1996 Many directors have spoken on this. The most famous was Stanley Kubrick. He filmed his movies first with 4:3 in mind and only after that he worried about wide screen. He did not like that a studio could make the choice of how his films should be displayed. It wasn't just horror it was all forms of film that suffered the pan and scan treatment. Most of those films was filmed with a widescreen theater projection in mind. Home viewing was still new and risky.
The 2 things I don’t like about VHS tapes are that A.) No more films get them anymore. I know you can find custom vhs tapes online or make your own, but it will never be the same as getting it from a store, and B.) I really don’t like how most VHS tapes are cropped. It cuts off a lot of the film. Granted, not every film on VHS is like this, but a lot of them were due to the aspect ratio of TVs back in the day. But outside of that, I love watching horror on VHS tapes
I keep on watching all the stuff on my CRT. Simply because I only have this and you know what it's super cool. I don't give a $$$ about the 4K, flat screen and so on...
New Sub here. I have always been so connected with VHS. I have a 4K projector and full surround sound system, but I have over a thousand Horror and Scifi on VHS as like you said Jamie, the lower res helps hide some of the clunkyness of lower budgets. Friday nights its VHS night. I bust out CRT and pick a film and pop it in the old JVC VCR Good night.
Nothing beats a great 4K restoration. Texas chainsaw looks incredible and still retains the gritty and grimy filmic aesthetic. VHS sucks. I grew up with it. But the quality was never good and anyone who chooses to watch vhs for reasons other than nostalgia, they’re bonafide crazy. Those films were shot on film and didn’t look like that in theaters. Great restorations are the closest thing to having the actual film print in your home.
You are correct actually in every way. However even without nostalgia, VHS horror movies on a CRT slap!! Yes it’s unnecessary but it hits different. Definitely a creepy vibe. the way the audio sounds is incredible. And the grittiness from the tv is awesome. Sure even back then that’s not how it was supposed look, but it still adds to a different experience. Up to you which experience is best for you. For me? It’s both. I collect vhs and 4k. Watch both too. Same movies too lol. It’s weird but awesome watching movies in different qualities
@@misterlexx2721 yes. I think it’s called analog. Sounds like classic radio or something. Yes it’s worse but that’s the appeal. I say worse but honestly I have less trouble making out what they say on vhs (on a crt) over my sound bar (on oled tv) Analog is muffly but the voices are clear as day through crt speakers. Maybe I’m weird and it’s nostalgia but I do enjoy it
@@reggiebuttsmash2321 your soundbar should have tru dialog. My Samsung 3 channel sound bar has the center channel purely for dialog. It's the TV built in speakers that struggle with multi channel audio. They work fine with basic stereo sound on my Cable TV though. I still keep Cable for live sports especially soccer ( association football) .
Technically, imagewise, the 4k or blu ray has always better image quality but i get it that some people like the look and feel of the vhs. But i it's more nostalgia driven i guess..
I'm not really into collecting movies but if I ever do get into it just saying because I am a huge a horror fan. I'll keep what I've learned in this video in Mind. but this brings back memories when my dad used to rent movies from Blockbuster.
4K is neccessary for an extremely large screen such as a theatre/cinema screen. However, it is diminishing returns on any screen 50 inches or smaller. For most people, regular 1080p Blurays shows very fine on TVs 50 inches or smaller. Facts!
@@misterlexx2721 For those of us who have screens larger than 50 inches, there is a definite improvement in watching films on a good 4k transfer with HDR, though Blu-rays also display nicely. There's no way I'd go back to VHS and my enjoyment of horror has only improved since those days.
I won't hate n vhs. You're right in alot of ways. Don't under estimate the 35mm 4k restoration. Jaws and Halloween are so gritty and clear. The VHS is the vasoline effect.
Crt blends colors and smoothes edges. Digital leaves separated colors and sharp edges. You can tell night and day when playing older games. One where the effect was factored-in in the design. And that's why older games look worse in newer TV's as opposed to crt
I'm a 80s kid, my first physical media collection was VHS, but I have no warm and fuzzy feelings about VHS, I have no warm and fuzzy feelings about 70s 80s and 90s gaming consoles or CRT either.
VHS Hi-Fi audio is vastly superior to any digital audio format, and it’s not even close (especially due to how compressed and No Noised Blu-Ray and DVD audio tend to be).
Low res on crt arcade,retrogames..or collecting vhs is great. But a great 1080 or 4K 2.0....5.1..is better and I grew up with vhs..ld..dvd..and collecting vhs,beta..
VHS horror on a CRT is like nothing else, it really makes a big difference to the atmosphere and immersion. It looks “worse”, but thats certainly kind of the point.
Yup
Nah, you're just showing your age. You are just nostalgic for shitty VHS quality. We all do it with something. You'll never convince me that PS5 is better than N64, even though it clearly is.
@@n64fan60 nostalgia might play a factor but it’s not the only reason, some stuff just works better when it’s grainy and at a lower resolution, og TCM or most 80s Slashers for example. It really is something that just adds to Horror movies but not much else.
@dkres82 Dude ask yourself- how many people under the age of 30 seek out old VHS tapes of old horror films, rather than just watching them on Netflix? It's probably almost none.
If you love VHS - it's because you're over 40, and watching VHS tapes of old films is just you reliving your youth. Nothing more.
We're talking about cinematic films cropped to 4:3 and transferred to magnetic tape that degrades over time.
Insanity/nostalgia lol 😂
Nostalgia does come into play, but experience is a huge part as well, it’s why gamers choose to drop hundreds of dollars on a CRT to play N64 games, those can be played on a modern TV too in most cases, but it’s not how it was intended to be played.
I’m glad you enjoy streaming though, there’s nothing wrong with having the convenience of everything at your fingertips, however collecting is and has always been about experience.
Also so many people have went back to vinyl for music, which shows people like to own their favourites, people hate to feel like they’re being controlled by a streaming service, or want a better overall experience or sound.
Totally agreed- Texas Chainsaw is a great example that comes to my mind as a movie already shot with a bit of a “grainy/old feeling.” I think this also almost adds an element of a home movie, as if there’s a viewer behind a fourth wall recording the events with a home camera.
Love your content man! Excited for more of your videos.
I’ve had this chat so many times with my friends. Growing up as a kid in the 90s I watched The Crow on vhs (still have it). I watched it on dvd and it lost some of its magic. It had this dark grittiness to it on vhs which suits that movie so well.
I agree with watching VHS’s on CRT TV’s, I enjoy watching them this way.
Most VHS movies were cropped or butchered from 1.85 or 2.40 :1 ratio to fill an almost square shaped 4:3 ratio on CRT.
I did noticed a huge difference when watching older movies on 4K UHD. They look very impressive but you do get a totally different experience and takes something away in return.
I told my cousin that im not sure if watching older movies on current technology the best way to watch them. So I completely understand what you're talking about.
Yeah I know for sure Nightmare on Elm Street was uncut on VHS and I think The Evil Dead actually was filmed in the standard aspect ratio and it way scarier in that format, same with Re-Animator. Although I personally just go for the HD for convenience.
My experience was walking through the video store for hours was a whole experience in itself.
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I've recently bought 400 VHS cause I just think VHS is where the memories are, people don't realise how much of our lives we spent at the video store looking for our entertainment.
I always went for their 7 movies for 7 days for Au$7 deals. It literally took me about one and a half hours to choose what to watch. The first four or five were easy, but I had to get the last two to get the bulk discount or it would cost more for the first few.
I have been waiting for years for A Nightmare On Elm Street to release on 4K Blu-Ray, I'm hoping it's this year.
I’ve just bought all the James Bond collection vhs movies to get the collection image.
I still watch VHS movies, especially from the early 80s and my preference for movies of that era is DVD over Blu-ray. If you hook up a VHS or DVD player to an old 720P HD Ready LCD monitor with a screen size no bigger than about 32" then you're going to get a good image quality at those lower resolutions. When you start trying to play these on larger, higher resolution TVs then you're really going to struggle getting an acceptable image quality. CRTs are obviously the most authentic way to go but they are starting to get old and harder to service as the years move on. Anyways, keep up the awesome work :-)
This is why I don't zoom to fill DVD movies on my 50 inch 4k Samsung TV not even regular blurays. I don't like letter box 2.40:1 because picture real estate is tiny but if it's a DVD, I just watch in original aspect ratio to avoid pixelated video quality. If its a Bluray, I can have a bigger zoom and maintain high picture quality.
hulk 2003 on vhs brings me back to the first time i saw it when it originally came out it scared the fuck out of me
That's not a collection behind you that's a freaking library very cool
And that’s only one portion of my collection
@@JamieToomeyPresents nice
Blockbuster Movie Rental ... It reminds of Friday evenings going into Blockbuster movie rentals with my mom to rent Terminator 2 and whatever action sci fi movies in my youth days in the 90s.😅😅😅
@@misterlexx2721 I was always jealous of avgn his video room is next level
@@PhilsretroSpective 😆😆😆. Man cave.
VHS is way scarier one due to the fact that it looks like a snuff film and two because that analogue tape piss is amazing
I agree with everything you said 100 percent. I've also found that I like watching both 4k and blu ray versions of movies because they usually look drastically different. Different color saturation and grain. Why choose when you can have all. I like to switch it up.
For all the reasons he said. I'm watching army of darkness tv edition right now because it has alternate scenes that aren't in any other version. It also has dog shit quality picture but it's nice to see it and remember how bad things use to look and compare how much better they are now.
I watch horror on vhs, comedy on dvd, movies on bluray, and my favorites on 4k.
Yeah something like that 👍
I'm not sure which I prefer. VHS definitely has more nostalgia. That's the main reason I kept all my ex-hire VHS tapes of all the A Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Nostalgia's probably also the reason why most of the ex-hire tapes are being sold for far more than the entire DVD boxed set of A Nightmare on Elm Street.
I've seen a couple of them being sold for about AU$300. The entire, brand new, DVD boxed set only cost me AU$17 on sale down from about $25.
Why has that VHS cover of the original A Nightmare On Elm Street got the Wes Craven's New Nightmare Freddy on it ?
This is the comment to look at people. What on earth is that vhs copy!??
A lot of older horror movies were 4:3 and was cropped on top and bottom to meet the new trend of everything must be widescreen 16:9. The older cheap 35mm and 16mm film stock that was used by most directors was 4:3 aspect and was turned into other aspects in the editing room to match what they was going for with the film. The Shining, Nightmare on Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw, and not the first but the later sequels like 4 and 5 of Halloween all used this type of film stock.
But that doesn't mean the directors wanted it to be viewed as 4:3 and pan and scan certainly destroys any claim that this was how it was meant to be seen.
@@andysmith1996 Good thing I never said that they wanted it to be viewed in pan and scan. Most the time it was the studio's choice.
@@zonger420 Many horror videos were pan and scan on VHS, so you didn't have a choice. And I'd like to see a citation for the studio choosing the aspect ratio over the director.
@@andysmith1996 Many directors have spoken on this. The most famous was Stanley Kubrick. He filmed his movies first with 4:3 in mind and only after that he worried about wide screen. He did not like that a studio could make the choice of how his films should be displayed. It wasn't just horror it was all forms of film that suffered the pan and scan treatment. Most of those films was filmed with a widescreen theater projection in mind. Home viewing was still new and risky.
The 2 things I don’t like about VHS tapes are that A.) No more films get them anymore. I know you can find custom vhs tapes online or make your own, but it will never be the same as getting it from a store, and B.) I really don’t like how most VHS tapes are cropped. It cuts off a lot of the film. Granted, not every film on VHS is like this, but a lot of them were due to the aspect ratio of TVs back in the day. But outside of that, I love watching horror on VHS tapes
I keep on watching all the stuff on my CRT. Simply because I only have this and you know what it's super cool. I don't give a $$$ about the 4K, flat screen and so on...
New Sub here. I have always been so connected with VHS. I have a 4K projector and full surround sound system, but I have over a thousand Horror and Scifi on VHS as like you said Jamie, the lower res helps hide some of the clunkyness of lower budgets. Friday nights its VHS night. I bust out CRT and pick a film and pop it in the old JVC VCR Good night.
Nothing beats a great 4K restoration. Texas chainsaw looks incredible and still retains the gritty and grimy filmic aesthetic. VHS sucks. I grew up with it. But the quality was never good and anyone who chooses to watch vhs for reasons other than nostalgia, they’re bonafide crazy.
Those films were shot on film and didn’t look like that in theaters. Great restorations are the closest thing to having the actual film print in your home.
You are correct actually in every way. However even without nostalgia, VHS horror movies on a CRT slap!! Yes it’s unnecessary but it hits different. Definitely a creepy vibe. the way the audio sounds is incredible. And the grittiness from the tv is awesome. Sure even back then that’s not how it was supposed look, but it still adds to a different experience. Up to you which experience is best for you. For me? It’s both. I collect vhs and 4k. Watch both too. Same movies too lol. It’s weird but awesome watching movies in different qualities
I collect vhs,I play arcade on crt..but with movies I prefer hd or 4k (35mm should be the best way..but impossible).
@@reggiebuttsmash2321 You mean the mono sound? No Dolby tru HD or DTS multi channel HD master sound.
@@misterlexx2721 yes. I think it’s called analog. Sounds like classic radio or something. Yes it’s worse but that’s the appeal. I say worse but honestly I have less trouble making out what they say on vhs (on a crt) over my sound bar (on oled tv)
Analog is muffly but the voices are clear as day through crt speakers. Maybe I’m weird and it’s nostalgia but I do enjoy it
@@reggiebuttsmash2321 your soundbar should have tru dialog. My Samsung 3 channel sound bar has the center channel purely for dialog. It's the TV built in speakers that struggle with multi channel audio. They work fine with basic stereo sound on my Cable TV though. I still keep Cable for live sports especially soccer ( association football) .
Technically, imagewise, the 4k or blu ray has always better image quality but i get it that some people like the look and feel of the vhs. But i it's more nostalgia driven i guess..
Great video dude!
Thanks 🙏🏽
I totally agree
I'm not really into collecting movies but if I ever do get into it just saying because I am a huge a horror fan. I'll keep what I've learned in this video in Mind. but this brings back memories when my dad used to rent movies from Blockbuster.
I like to watch vhs as long as the screen isn't too large. I like a 20" crt the best for video tapes.
I prefer to see them as close to the cinema experience as I can, which is why I love 4k. I don't miss watching horror on VHS in any way.
4K is neccessary for an extremely large screen such as a theatre/cinema screen. However, it is diminishing returns on any screen 50 inches or smaller. For most people, regular 1080p Blurays shows very fine on TVs 50 inches or smaller. Facts!
@@misterlexx2721 For those of us who have screens larger than 50 inches, there is a definite improvement in watching films on a good 4k transfer with HDR, though Blu-rays also display nicely. There's no way I'd go back to VHS and my enjoyment of horror has only improved since those days.
Where did got that Freddy awesome figure and what brand made it??
I won't hate n vhs. You're right in alot of ways. Don't under estimate the 35mm 4k restoration. Jaws and Halloween are so gritty and clear. The VHS is the vasoline effect.
Crt blends colors and smoothes edges. Digital leaves separated colors and sharp edges. You can tell night and day when playing older games. One where the effect was factored-in in the design. And that's why older games look worse in newer TV's as opposed to crt
the 80s classic vice squad just isn't the same on dvd the vhs copy makes it seem more real.
The original 80s & 90s vhs is the full version. DVD and cables are not the full version. Thank you.
I'm a 80s kid, my first physical media collection was VHS, but I have no warm and fuzzy feelings about VHS, I have no warm and fuzzy feelings about 70s 80s and 90s gaming consoles or CRT either.
Damn that sucks bro.
You’re wearing a wrestling shirt and talking wrestling,You’ve peaked my interest.
VHS Hi-Fi audio is vastly superior to any digital audio format, and it’s not even close (especially due to how compressed and No Noised Blu-Ray and DVD audio tend to be).
Low res on crt arcade,retrogames..or collecting vhs is great.
But a great 1080 or 4K 2.0....5.1..is better and I grew up with vhs..ld..dvd..and collecting vhs,beta..
Would VCD offer a similar experience to VHS?
VHS I would say would look better
I haven't watched a horror movie on vhs in over 20yrs and i never will again 😂 to each there own though have fun 😂😂
What resolution were crts?
SD quality, usually 576i in Australia or 480i in the US
whole lotta bogus. This is a collector trying to raise the value of his goods
Bro your audio is so low. I need to max my audio on mobile to even hear, if the audio is half I can't hear anything 💀
I’m looking into how to fix it, it is on my radar as I’ve noticed it too, stay tuned, I’m looking at fixes
Haha I’ve always thought this
That’s why watching
The Exorcist looks more scary on the Sony CRT when I was younger 👍