Driverless ! Which means no impact in case of strikes by drivers ! I'm so glad, you can't imagine I just took the T12 tramway for the first time. It was launched on the 9th of December 2023
Gosh, can you stop being so needlessly pessimistic? MP14 trains on M14 haven't been trashed, same for the trains on M1, M4 or M11, etc. Today's Paris is nowhere near what it was in the 80's and 90's, when trains were constantly raided by hordes and covered in graffiti. Now it's pretty rare. Most trains are in good condition and stay that way. Graffiti still happens but it's pretty mild and much much much *less* frequent than 30 years ago. You're just being too French, as if you lived in a terrible place where everything goes to crap instantly. But you're not, you're just overly dramatic. In the late 80's and early 90's, entire stations were covered in graffiti, like Louvre Rivoli that was raided twice. You would have had a hard time finding a train that wasn't full of graffiti. It's rare nowadays. And specifically with line M15, train yards are inside, the line is entirely underground and tunnels are completely separated from public areas by full-size PSD's. It will most likely be the line with the least graffiti of the network. As for the interiors, they've used easily cleanable and replaceable parts, ontop of having a fast reaction policy. You're just being dramatic as a husky...
Yeah, even from last year's perspective, things are evolving so quickly. Line 15 will be a game changer for the suburbs, lest just hope it doesn't make the housing cost skyrocket near the new stations.
@@RMTransit the design isn’t too different from hamburg’s dt6 which is going to replace older trains and in my opinion looks much better color wise with even bigger windows on the doors
I also thought it was a bit over the top with the lighting show but then I remember it's literally one of the largest public transit project in history to actually get built, almost all at once. The GPE is about to revolutionize our capital, allowing it to expand more than never before. And people have been asking for an alternative to cars for suburbs to suburbs trips since the 60s, it's long due.
@@MarquisVonLion naah. France has already decentralized Paris way too much. Paris needs to stay big if it wants to stay relevant in the global stage. Apart from cities like London and Bangkok (which are both highly centralized capitals, like Paris) we still have mega-cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Tokyo, Seoul that are ENORMOUS! and Jakarta is on its way to become yet another highly competitive hub, just like New Delhi and many other emerging Indian mega cities. It's clear that bigger is, in fact, better. So don't tell Paris to scale down, rather tell others to scale up! 🤷♂️
Line 11 is also being extended to the east as part of these works, with the first stage targeted for a 2024 opening. The MP14 rolling stock has been introduced to the existing section of this line a few months ago.
For the extension to Rosny-Bois-Perrier yes, but a future extension of line 11 to Noisy-Champs is kinda part of the Grand Paris Express. With an average speed of 50kph, I guess that the MP14 will do 100kph on this future part of the line.
@@RMTransit It's the same for M14's extensions too. It's done by RATP except 3 stations: Orly airport, Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy and Saint-Denis Pleyel which are under SGP's management if I'm not mistaken. Which are interchange stations with "GPE proper" lines. That's why M14 and M11 extensions both had separate websites for their projects' details, and station works sites visits during the "patrimony days" in mid-September were made with RATP personnel. "la14plus14" for example is a site edited by RATP.
@@RMTransitBut do you know why it’s taken by the RATP instead of the Grand Paris Express Entreprise ? I mean the two are public compagnies so why is there a difference ?
@@zariyBG Because SGP, formerly Société du Grand Paris, now Société des Grands Projets, is the public company "vessel" through which a number of massive projects are and will be built. The funding for the SGP and RATP projects is different. The extensions being built under RATP supervision are ordered by IDFM, the region's transit authority. RATP won't be the owner, IDFM or the region will. What's built under RATP's leadership is funded differently than what's built under SGP, it comes somewhat directly from the region which is responsible for finding funds for it. Anything that's built under SGP is ordered by the state and must be validated through national law, which opens a specific funding through long-term loans contracted by the region with backing from the state. So the loans for the GPE have more favorable conditions on longer terms (like 40 or 50 years negotiated similarly to national sovereign debt). They are considered a form of national interest project. However, what's built under RATP is a much simpler order from the region which does not need to first pass through national law, and it doesn't get as long-term and as favorable condition loans contracted by the region and they are not backed by the state the same way. The funding conditions, the "public utility" and eminent domain conditions and other aspects are different. What's built under SGP has a kind of status of national interest, while what's built under RATP is entirely dependent on the region. The "strength" of a SGP project is pretty much like for building a power plant, or a ministry. Whereas, when it's only under IDFM and RATP, it's a regional level decision. Line 19 that was recently proposed by IDFM, the region, and the Val d'Oise department, with strong support from many, will need to go through national law in the country's parliament to be included into the GPE project. If it's not passed through law, it will remain a rather common regional project and may have issues interlining with M17 for the part between Gonnesse and CDG or will be more complicated to fund. Even if in both cases it's mostly the region that pays in the end, the difference between being a state backed project and a simple regional project is quite substantial. It's much less of a strain on the region's budget when it's state backed, thanks to the more favorable conditions, the stare guarantee, etc. Furthermore, several lines (and stations) of the Grand Paris Express will not be operated by RATP, but by competitors. Saint-Denis Pleyel, for example, which is GPE's main hub, will be operated by Keolis, which will also operate lines 16 and 17. Even if M14 will still operated by RATP for the foreseeable future. And M15 will be operated by RATP Dev, the private subsidiary of RATP Group. Though, a line or section that is being built under RATP is not in any way a guarantee that this new infrastructure will be operated by RATP. The use of national law and this specific "vessel" that is SGP is a way to ensure that the project will be built despite the changes in government, whether nationally or regionally. It's also a way to ensure, thanks to the very long-term loans & the state backing & favorable conditions, that the region's funds are not monopolized and blocked by the mega project. Imagine a family where the son wants to buy a home. If he does that "on his own", he will have less borrowing capacity and will have substantially higher mortgage drafts. If the parents back their kid for a much larger and much longer term loan, he'll get much more favorable conditions, with much lower drafts. So he may be able to do more things with his budget in the meantime. That's why the biggest and most expensive project is the one under SGP, and the smaller ones are IDFM with RATP. Hope this answered your question.
Thank you for an extremely informative video. Thinking more widely, the whole Grand Paris Express concept of metro lines linking suburbs needs to be studied by very large cities all around the world. Especially Paris's near neighbour London!
The best we can offer you is the new West London Orbital Overground, with peak frequencies of 8tph in the core section, using diesel trains. Take or leave. 😂 TfL is broke, and the British government won't fund any new public transit projects in London or elsewhere.
Idk much about how extensive the Paris metro is, but if you wanna get to London suburbs from the centre of the city there are plenty of national rail services (Thameslink, Elizabeth Line, Overground, etc) that also serve the central city area. You don't have to rely on just The Underground for rail travel in and out of the city. Then again, I'm not knowledgeable about the Paris Metro, it could be very much superior
@@face_therealityI am British, and know London well. The Paris Metro is very extensive, even more extensive than the London Underground. However both the Paris metro and the London Underground do not provide INTER-SUBURBAN links. Eg in London, there is no raillink from Croydon to Bromley, or Harrow to Barnet. The whole point of the Grand Paris Express is that it will provide INTER-SUBURBAN links. See Reece's excellent maps. London needs to copy the Paris example. (The new 'superloop' intersuburban buses have limited capacity and will get stuck in traffic jams.
@@Fan652w Ah I see. It's probably too unprofitable for London to implement a rail line linking the suburbs, especially with the ongoing TfL funding crisis. I guess people just have to make do with the superloop
@@face_thereality I am afraid that you are right! While Parisiens will get their Grand Paris Express ,Londoners will have to make do with superloop buses!.
Onboard LCD screens are also set to display the remaining travel time to each station, connecting lines with next train/tram/bus time, and of course incidents or disruptions if any.
You know you've made it when you get to try out the new Paris Metro trains! These trains look sick, the brightness is perfect, the doors are a great size for crowd flow, and it's nice that they have automatic counting sensors too! Interesting to see what an unfinished gangway looks like too! I guess on the topic of cool rolling stock, I love the MTR Disneyland Resort Line rolling stock. They were the first on the MTR to use automatic train operation during normal operation, followed by the South Island line. They produced them by refitting M-Trains with a Disney theme. Not only are the windows Mickey-shaped, but also the grab handles, and there are even little displays of bronze Disney statues. Other cool subway rolling stock I love are the NYC Subway's R211s and the Glasgow Subway. Even if not all of the R211s have open gangways (which open gangways will help big time for crowd control), it's very much still a step in the right direction! Besides the LED screens and the cool headlights, two touches I especially enjoy are the flashing red lights when the doors close as well as the flip seats that allow space for wheelchairs. And just any rolling stock in the Glasgow Subway I like because the trains are cute thanks to how small the tunnels are, even better when it's flashy and cool like the third generation rolling stock. The little train that could!
These Paris Metro trains are beautiful! Gotta give kudos to the French! And of course the station entrances of the Paris Metro by Guimard are beautiful as well. Here's the story behind why they're that way: In the years leading up to the Exposition Universelle in 1900, Paris was busy building their Métro, but many Parisians were against building said Metro because they thought it would look industrial. In order to make the entrances look aesthetically pleasing, the Compagnie du chemin de fer métropolitain de Paris, or Paris Metropolitan Railway Company, held a contest with 21 participants but chose none of them and instead commissioned Hector Guimard to design entryways that were as elegant as possible. Guimard opted to craft his entrances out of cast-iron set in concrete and painted a shade of green evocative of oxidized brass. The use of cast iron allowed him to construct the curved forms characteristic of his style, and concrete enabled him to incorporate sculpted details throughout each design, whether rendered as a roofed édicule structure or an open entourage model. In the years following their installation, Guimard's entryways were met with mixed reviews, and many were removed. However of course, the ones that remained were later realized for the Parisian icons that they are!
I was waiting for this video of the Great Paris express. i traveled on the Paris Metro a few months ago, and line 14 and its trains excited me. Everything new in Paris (urban planning, and the Great Paris Express ) in my opinion is world class.
People have talked so negatively about Paris in the last decades that the city really needs something that makes its inhabitants a bit proud of. Let's hope that will be what Grand Paris Express will become. We will know in the following years.
@@Clery75019 Je suis très content que le système s'aggrandissent, mais juste en oubliant pas de continuer de financer l'entretien, la rénovations et des nouveaux trains automatique pour Paris intra-muros ! La bouche de métro la plus proche de chez moi est la ligne 13, la 5ème ligne de métro la plus fréquenté au monde ! La ligne n'a toujours pas été automatisé (vote pour son automatisation seulement en décembre 2022), alors qu'elle aurait dû selon moi l'être en priorité depuis des années. Les MF77 qui ont été "rénové" de 2007 à 2011, et sont tous déja en majorité sale, tagué et pas très moderne. Il m'arrive souvent de prendre la ligne 2 pour aller à la Gare du Nord, et très fréquemment je vois des lumières qui ne fonctionne plus, des tags au niveau des portes, et même des chewing-gum sur les bares en fer. Je dois donc marcher 1,2 km pour la ligne 12, 1,4 km pour la ligne 4, et 1,6 km pour la ligne 14. Donc en tant que parisien, je suis très fière de ces MP14 avec ces nouvelles lignes, mais il m'arrive de remettre en cause l'ordre dans lequel les choses ont été faites...
@@RMTransitAlstom Metropolis are great subways! In my city, toulouse they maked a kind of different Alstom metropolis that mesurate 36meters and can be extended to 48meters! And the width is a bit bigger than the mp05 of line 1 of paris! Dissapearence of folding seats and chair facing each other. And now you can have Possibility of traveling in the 2 (36meters)/3(48meters) trains. appearance of air conditioning led panels. And for the lille alstom metropolis its kind of the same execpt i don't think they have air conditioning and the train is 52 meters long and its less wider than the mp05. For Turin they choosed the same as lille for renne they choosed val and finnaly paris. The MR06V And MR03V is bassicaly longer than all the Alstom metropolis i mentioned same for mr06v but both have the same width as the Toulouse alstom metropolis they have led pannels but i don't think they have air conditioning. For the capacitys: Alstom Metropolis (toulouse) Capacity: 284 passenger(36 meters) or 384 passenger(48 meters) Alstom metropolis BOA(Turin And lille) Capacity: idk And the other idk
Thank you for the insightful video. Having travelled to Paris several times, I love the Metro there and its crazy to think all this expansion is happening there. Can't wait for my next visit to go and check it all out.
I am living in Paris suburb, not far from the Line 15sud, which will open first, and it still amaze me how some travel I need to make frequently will have their duration divided by two. It take more than one hour now (it mean it is faster by car, which is a 15 minutes journey), but with line 15 il will be roughly 30 minutes !
Congrats on this amazing oppurtunity Reece, makes me truly happy to see you getting this kind of chance to create content on your channel. Hopefully youll also be able to check out the Mark V & new tube for london trains would love to see a video on them as well
Thank you very much for taking an interest in rail news from the Paris region! I see tons of videos on the London network but very few on the Parisian one, which has become much more interesting in recent years.
I've seen slightly less new metros were the vertical holding poles split in three... now these split in four... feels like we're rapidly approaching an eldritch amount of split holding poles, I'll have to start bringing my copy of the Necronomicon on the subway just in case.
As a transit nerd living in the city, I can’t wait for these new projects to finish up and I look forward to our new rolling stock. Ligne 11 that I live along now has almost fully changed out its entire rolling stock to newer cars with similar design elements and it’s a huge improvement; though I do miss the nostalgia of fighting with the lever/latch on the old school trains.
the MP-59/MF-67/MF-73 rolling stock have been the identity of the Paris metro for half a century. They are now historically as important as the Sprague-Thomson. Newer rolling stocks being more diverse (from MP-89 to MF-19), I don't know if we'll have a rolling stock which are as impactful in our way to identify the Paris metro any longer. But that is certainly for the better as it was a bit silly to replace the whole rolling stock of the network by huge pack as it was done before.
My friends and I were joking after dinner at porte d'Italie around one of the construction sites that the line will never open lol. But I stand pleasantly corrected and impressed. As much as I complain about the métro, I'm ngl it works so well like 95% of the time. Maybe we're too spoiled 🤣
@@varoonnone7159 Well personally I do take the E, and I fear it will become very crowded with the Western extension that is due to open in 2024. I agree though that RER C and D are crap, and I hope SNCF will do something to reduce their tediously long dwelling time at each stop.
It is actually not that big! You can walk from one side of the city center to the other ( = the arrondissements = where all the current metro lines are )in 2 hours top It’s just a really dense system that transport a ton of people
Our cities are often huge by comparison, really! That's actually more of a problem - we have so many areas with poor density that are hard to serve so we just use buses and call it a day. In the land area of our cities we could actually quite comfortably fit many millions more people as long as we're not trying to make it work with big roads & ample parking. Public transit is just that much more efficient. I've spent a lot of time in Tokyo and it is large in area, but also has 40 million people. And for the most part, people get places on time. Aside from the morning rush hour and certain areas that get very busy with tourists you would never really feel like it's ~15 times the population of Vancouver
@@annabonnet6873 Central Paris is small, but it's only a limited section of the Paris urban area which is a lot more extensive. You cannot go from Cergy to Disneyland Paris in a 2-hour walk. There are 13 million people in the Paris urban area and only 2 million in Central Paris.
@@Clery75019 if you measure the urbanized (non-rural) area of Paris on Google maps, it's still at most 25-30 km across, which is definitely a lot more than a 2 hour walk but it's not really that big considering how many people are inside that! Many Canadian cities do sprawl a lot farther than that with not much to show for it. Toronto could definitely have more than four (three? now that Scarborough RT is shut down) rapid transit lines, especially considering that Vancouver has half the population and also has three and we probably also need more
Just in time for the Olympics next year! The Metro train looks amazing ! Sophistication and French culture go hand in hand! Happy to get a behind-the-scenes look at the newest trains to run in Paris soon!
Vers interesting Reece, I hope you also visited the exposition on this project at the Musée de l’architecture at Place du Trocadéro! It is very impressive.
Now that’s gorgeous. Thanks Reece and Happy Holidays! BTW are you planning any best of 2023 video? Maybe one recapping some of the biggest transit stories of the year.
Thank you for another video on my favourite public transport system, the one that also features nifty stuff like boulangeries and fromageries near many of its stations 😀
I live next to one of the Line 15 station. It's also an SnCF transilien station but i often take my bike to get to the nearest métro station , about 1km away. Can't wait for Line 15 to open, it's going to be spectacular.
Amazing project and beautiful trains, circular rail/metro lines would be highly requested in our city, Milan. All the metros here go from the outskirts to the city centre. Great video as usual. Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
Man these are super impressive. And as a Copenhagener I'm looking very attentively. These are probably the closest we have as of yet to an example of what the next generation of S-trains for the city (which need to have level 4 Grade of automation) can be. A 3 car set of these already matches the requirements for length and the 110km/h max service speed is really close to the 120km/h one demanded for Copenhagen. The carriages would only need to be widened from 2.8m to 3.2+m and they'd basically fit the bill perfectly.
Then it most likely be from the X'trapolis lineup, which comprise some of the RER trains. MI09 trains and other double deckers being the largest kind if I recall correctly. And they can be fitted with GoA4 capability just like the Metropolis. X'trapolis trains exist in single and double decker versions, and various types of configuration, including open gangway and all the same interior bells and whistles as the Metropolis. They are just the heavy metro version of the Metropolis product line, and with something like a 140km/h capability by default. Everything's customizable anyway. Copenhagen has ordered Alstom trains to renew their S train fleet?
@@RMTransit No, the S trains are high floor, 915mm boarding height, and the platforms are generally 180m long. But the thing is, DSB with their next gen S trains wants units that will run at GoA level 4, so same level of autonomy as the city's light metro. The plan is to have an option to fit them with caps to use them with drivers in the interim. These new trains are being tendered right now and should be entered into service by 2030 onwards. 226 new units, 55-60m long per unit so upwards of 3 can be coupled together, and split apart based on demand, 160 seats+16 bike spots per unit, Grade of automation level 4, minimum width of 3.2m, and max service speed of 120km/h with an option of 140km/h. Currently the 3 consortiums bidding for it are Alstom CAF and a Siemens+Stadler consortium.
Widening the train can have prices consequences, and its not their fault alstom did exactly what the specifications said. They can be up to 9 car sets just like other alstom metropolis but for line 15 its only 6 car sets. Most metro in France have a GoA 4 (Grade of Automation 4) which means fully automated and doesn't require human operations. The new generation of Alstom metropolis around France is many. (Toulouse, Lille, marseille, Lyon, Paris.) Let's see the toulouse one Toulouse Alstom metropolis specifications are Between 2,4m and 3m of width (alstom choosed 2,70 regarding the city's density) Air Conditioning, 36 meters in lenght (2 cars) and can be extended to 48 meters (3 cars) (2 mesurating 18 meters and 1 mesurating 12 meters) Open gangway Fully automated (GoA 4) 286 in capacity can be up to 386 in capacity, 29 seats each car In railway Between 2,6m and 3m in lenght (alstom choosed 2,70m.) Wider doors. Altough the toulouse one can have 9 cars which can make it 162 meters long the city wanted it to have 2 cars which made it 36 meters long.
There is also the extension RER E in the West of Paris (which extension to Nanterre La Folie will be delivered in April 2024, and the rest in 2026). They will have new trains with RER NG. (Double deck and very modern). Also the CDG express to be delivered in early 2027
Grand Paris Express project reminds me of Central Circle and Big Circle lines of Moscow, similar large loops outside of historical city centre, focused on transfering people from the outskirts. trains are very beatiful, remind me of new trains in Moscow metro and new Ivolga trains for Moscow Central Diameters(network similar to RER Parisienne) nice job by Alstom(the fact is, Alstom owns 20% of the company, that builds new trains now in Russia, no wonder i see similarities). big love my western european brothers and sisters!
Alstom is not related to Ivolga. Although Alstom had 10% TMH shares, Ivolga is a domestic project made by TVZ. As of external restyling for Ivolga 2.0, it's made by a studio what is now Arino Design. Ivolga 3.0 and 4.0 are further evolutions made domestically.
@@elksalmon84 yeah, im just telling that i see similarities, and that is it, seems interesting for me. by the way, as i know, alstom still owns 20% of TMH, but no longer invests in Russia and planned to sell its part of TMH by the end of 2023
I’m looking forward to Paris’ future. As someone who barely scraped by getting from CDG to Versailles amidst service impacts on the RER B/C within our 4-hour timeframe. Considering how well the metro filled in the gaps, this will only serve to improve an already fantastic system
The line 15 will be very useful for residents because you will be able to travel to cities around Paris without going to the center of Paris. Actually if you want to go to east you have to go to Paris first and during rush hours you can have a lot of passengers going to a variety of directions so this line will be very awesome
Excellent video Reese. Those trains look fantastic and really futuristic. If you don't mind me asking, could you possibly consider doing a video on the Kaohsiung metro in the future? Taipei's Metro gets a lot of attention here in Taiwan, but Kaohsiung is really underrated as a metro for its convenience, speed, and coverage.
Because the Grand Paris Express will effectively bypass the center of Paris, expect very high ridership as commuters can travel between Paris metro Arrondissements without dealing with the center of the city. That's why the new trains have to be able to accommodate more riders.
Mass transit is essential for cities. It must connect with walking, running, cycling and escooter paths and trails. All mobility systems need to be interconnected in order to increase their use.
Can't wait for the Line 14 extension to Orly airport to open later this year. It should be spectacular. ! So many New stuff in Paris these days in terms of public transportation ! It's going to change the face off the metro area forever
At first i thought they look dangerously similar to the REM ones but then you mentioned they were Alstom Metropolis cars so then i realized they were the same model. This wants to make me move to Paris FOR LIFE. Great video and greetings from Laval!
Driverless (and elevated if you know me) train should be the staple of all metro systems eventually and it'll make people (like my childhood) love metros. In r/vancouver, we just got our new Mark V trains from ontario (but probably not gonna run until late 2024😭😭)!
Very nice. Interesting how these don't have different coloured flooring near the doors. Having just watching Geoff Marshall's video on the Central Line train refurbishment, a point was made about how that's a new accessibility requirement, but I guess maybe that's just for the UK?
There were trials if I remember correctly, but they chose to focus on the colored seats and wall lining : red are priority seats and areas, blue for everyone else. Apparently, it's due to the fact priority seating is mostly important during busy periods when it's de facto harder to see the floor. I've also seen some feedback from PRM persons not really raving about colored flooring, feeling a bit like in a cattle pen and preferring side markings, like the colored sidings to indicate a "diffused" zone instead of an area precisely defined by a line. Also a feeling of better blending in and belonging to society than with a strictly defined area. But some flooring color differentiation could be seen in some 3D preview images from Société du Grand Paris or Île-de-France Mobilités before the design was finalized for various new or upcoming trains. I guess it was considered useless. They had PRM consultants (I mean real PRM people riding transit and giving feedback on new designs) and they probably preferred other more important details than the flooring, like handle bars at specific locations, standing pads for accompanying passengers, etc.
Living beside Paris I can tell that it is a real concern to have métros circling Paris because travelling from in about the same area of suburb often requires to get inside of Paris and go back
Your north 14 line in bold on the map is a little short. Line 14 north was extended from Saint Lazare (below Clichy where you see all the rails converge and then form a triangle, right above the lower part of your L in "Line 14 extensions", that's Saint Lazare) as part of GPE.
Apparently no, it's RATP up to Mairie de Saint Ouen, that is also currently open. Though it's the same for most of the South extension. Only the last section of the North extension and the whole South extension aren't open yet on line M14. SGP / GPE is in charge of Saint-Denis Pleyel, Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy and Orly Airport interchange stations as they connect with "GPE proper" lines. RATP oversees construction of all other stationsbof M14. The extension from Saint-Lazare to Mairie de Saint-Ouen is directed by RATP. SGP supervised the last bit to Saint-Denis Pleyel.
@@davideddy5877 Delays are surpringly low on this project at this stage (only one year off compared to initial estimates) but we're far from the end so very likely there are more delays to be expected. RER E Westbound extension was initially planned for 2018 (to Nanterre) and 2020 (to Mantes-la-Jolie). Now it is expected for 2024 and 2026 respectively (6 years off). As for TGV connections to Spain via the Atlantic and Mediterranean coasts, they have been postponed to the 2030's.
@@davideddy5877 easier to come in on budget if your initial budget is actually representative of what the project will cost, rather than some combination of intentionlal underbidding and wishful thinking, I'd imagine. Probably also some other factors.
RER is super busy, so they are adding Metro and an Express train, since France is getting rid of a lot of Short Haul flights I imagine CDG is only going to get busier.
One other benefit is for local residents that work in CDG, which is a huge job center. It will offer, in conjunction with RER B and CDG Express, 3 different urban rail means, with different costs and speeds. Plus, an automated metro line is always more reliable than a driver operated train in a country prone to strikes. It's a lifeline, and a guarantee that at least one connection, one rail-based transportation means should be operational in case of major disruption. It's also simply added capacity, as currently the majority of people taking off from or landing in CDG use a car, taxi or Uber to get to / from the airport. The RER alone wouldn't be able to cope with the air passengers if they switched to it, due to the major congestion by non-airport riders on the rest of the line (which is already Europe's second busiest after RER A). If Paris Region wants to implement a true modal shift from the car to public transportation, like reversing modal shares, they need several different lines with different services : TGV's serve as long distance access to / from CDG. CDG Express will be the premium and fastest access from downtown Paris (from Gare de l'Est). Akin to Heathrow Express. Both RER B and M17 (possibly also M19 further in the future if there's interlining but that's unclear as of now), will offer access to a much wider portion of the population. Akin to Elizabeth line and London Underground's Piccadilly line for Heathrow. M17 or the recently proposed M19 have different routes than RER B, so they can catch more riders and improve airport access a lot for air travelers but also airport workers. While M19 should, either directly in case of interlining or through a connection with M17, offer redundancy and a somewhat direct alternative route between La Défense business district and CDG. CDG's rail traffic potential is large enough to require several different lines.
@@KyrilPGdriverless should reduce the impact of strikes, but presumably the rolling stock and infrastructure still require humans to perform maintenance and management.
@@thesenamesaretaken Sure but the impact that conversion to full driverless automation had on line reliability and strike avoidance was utterly massive. During major strikes, the only lines that work normally, and even often in overdrive, are the automated ones. When there's a 3 day strike among maintenance agents, that may create a maintenance backlog, but day to day operations are barely affected or often not at all. When half the supervisors are on strike, you can still operate an automated line at 100% service by just asking non-striking supervisors to take over. None if this is possible with drivers, it always has an impact on manned lines. And in dire situations, a manager could take over supervision. Really, it's night and day. Plus, the "reactivity" of fully automated lines is second to none. When there's a big concert in Paris la Défense Arena with 40 000 people and the concert takes longer than planned, no one worries about driver shift schedules etc. When the Arena signals the transit authority that they'll release 40k people into the streets in about 10 or 15 minutes, line M1's supervisors can inject dozens of trains and switch to super peak / event frequency by the touch of a button or a click on a mouse. And voilà! Beyoncé can sing 10 encores and finish the concert 45 minutes later than the planned end. The line is operating at 90 second frequency until the mass of concert goers have been absorbed, and doesn't need to run top frequency before it is actually needed. You'd need a severe maintenance backlog to really impact a fully automated line. You also no longer need to worry about where drivers take their shift and if it is the current location of your top shape trains. An automated line can operate a full service with a skeleton crew.
If they are run by Île de France Mobilités (the region) rather than RATP (the city), are they actually part of the Paris Metro system, or is it a different regional network that complements the RER?
All public transports in Paris are managed by the region under the authority of Île-de-France Mobilités (IDFM). The city of Paris manages nothing. RATP is totally unrelated to the city of Paris, it's a state-owned transport company that used to have a monopoly on bus, metros and trams but is now in competition with other companies. The contract for line 15 was awarded to RATP but the contract for lines 16 and 17 was awarded to the competitor Keolis.
And to complement the previous reply and answer your question: New GPE lines will be part of Paris metro (that's why new lines are numbered 15 to 18). Anyway, RER lines are not technically Paris metro, but they are all part of the Paris transit system. And the RER was for a short time named metro express regional. All the GPE lines will de facto be integrated into the same fare system, even though some specific destinations, like airports, may require a surcharge on tickets.
I love these new trains! But its a shame that the central handrails are white and not a more bold colour. The white handrails could easily blend in with the white interior and may cause problems for partially sighted passengers. (feels a built form over function)
At least Paris generally gets it right when it comes to transit and these projects are no exception. Make it accessible, oui, but also make it fashionable. Those futuristic seat patterns ALONE make me want to visit and ride the rails.. This is how you entice the public onto transit and out of their cars... Nobody wants a downgrade to their commute from sitting in a private controllable ride to standing in an uncomfortable and often smelly tin/plastic can unless the tradeoff is worth it... This one? WORTH IT. And that smoke and laser show should be built into every station if you ask me. ;-)
You should see some of the new stations on the South section of M15 (first section of "GPE proper" new line to open in 2025)... They're worth any light show! Especially Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy, with its huge cylinder crisscrossed by escalators, and both M14 and M15 lines crossing at a 90 degree angle inside the cylinder. M14 being an enclosed bridge in the giant cylinder. Or Saint-Maur Créteil, with its majestic and very deep, 50 meter tall spiral staircase in a light well, surrounded be a separated rotonda of 15 giant high-speed elevators. Noisy-Champs, which has huge underground installations spreading over more than a kilometer in length, has a swirling upward roof made of metal, wood and glass, located in its center where M15, M16 will end under the rebuilt RER A station. Almost all stations have dedicated original architecture and some of several are beyond grandiose. Last time I checked (some of the stations on M15 East and West don't have much renderings yet), only 3 out of the 68 new stations share roughly the same model. All 3 being elevated stations. The remaining 65 will apparently each get an architect and artist combo with unique architecture and unique art pieces. Saint-Denis Pleyel is fantastic too, with an atrium like a fault-line and escalators zigzaging between the two sides of that large void. With something like 56 or 58 escalators, laid in parallel banks of 4 or more. There's also one station that looks like a stylised P or a modified music note, by integrating a bridge over a waterway into the building. Several stations are simply stunning. Only the platforms will be somewhat similar. The new stations on RER E's Western extension are also gorgeous : La Défense CNIT with its wooden and reflective metal cladding ; and especially Porte Maillot with its elongated trapezoidal cross section and transparent skylight ground-level roof, with metallic caged escalators. It's beautiful. These 2 are set to open in spring 2024 and there are plenty of renderings but also recent photos of the works that let you see their huge size and great design.
Technically, Paris has 6 driverless metro lines at this stage (lines 1, 4, 14, Orlyval and both lines of CDGVAL). With the 4 Grand Paris Express line, the total should reach 10 by 2026.
@@BasedMHFan Line 19 would make it an eleventh one. Yet it's only proposed at this stage and if it's getting built it won't open before 2040. There are chances another existing line would be automated by then (probably line 13).
As a lifelong munich resident, I can't help but see an interesting resemblance to our metro stock, despite different manufacturers. The new train looks like a futuristic mix of both the 70s/80s A/B class trains and the 2000s/10s C class Siemens trains. The livery is really close, too!
Hi! May I suggest making a video on the Mumbai Suburban Rail system? It's the busiest in the world after Tokyo's which is almost 4 times as long, imo would make for a nice video.
They're from the same family, the Alstom Metropolis. But they are, as with almost all projects, customized to the client's needs and liking. Sometimes heavily customized, like the recent MP14 trains, which apparently are from the Metropolis product lineup but with major differences from the GPE or REM variants.
If you enjoy this video make sure to share it with a friend who likes metros! The best holiday gift of all is a new train! 🎉
Driverless ! Which means no impact in case of strikes by drivers ! I'm so glad, you can't imagine
I just took the T12 tramway for the first time. It was launched on the 9th of December 2023
I was wondering where you get the visual data for the lines on the openstreetmap from
The train design is almost identical to the trains that they now have on many of the regional commuter rail such as on the J/L lines in paris
Exactly in the spirit of the late John Prine, who wrote "New Train"
Ecuador's capital Quito, just opened its metro's first line
These trains are…beautiful! I haven’t been on the Paris metro since 2017, so it’s so great to see how far it’s come!
They won't stay that way very long, believe me.
Gosh, can you stop being so needlessly pessimistic?
MP14 trains on M14 haven't been trashed, same for the trains on M1, M4 or M11, etc.
Today's Paris is nowhere near what it was in the 80's and 90's, when trains were constantly raided by hordes and covered in graffiti.
Now it's pretty rare. Most trains are in good condition and stay that way.
Graffiti still happens but it's pretty mild and much much much *less* frequent than 30 years ago.
You're just being too French, as if you lived in a terrible place where everything goes to crap instantly. But you're not, you're just overly dramatic.
In the late 80's and early 90's, entire stations were covered in graffiti, like Louvre Rivoli that was raided twice. You would have had a hard time finding a train that wasn't full of graffiti.
It's rare nowadays.
And specifically with line M15, train yards are inside, the line is entirely underground and tunnels are completely separated from public areas by full-size PSD's. It will most likely be the line with the least graffiti of the network.
As for the interiors, they've used easily cleanable and replaceable parts, ontop of having a fast reaction policy.
You're just being dramatic as a husky...
@@lioneldemun6033 Line 14 is still in really good condition wdym ?
Yeah, even from last year's perspective, things are evolving so quickly. Line 15 will be a game changer for the suburbs, lest just hope it doesn't make the housing cost skyrocket near the new stations.
The good thing is that new trains are being designed to be easier to clean and maintain, so they can stay "new" feeling for much longer.
France has a long history of superb design and this is another example of that.
Oh absolutely, its really a cut above - and interesting how it is distinctly different from say . . . Germany
@@RMTransit the design isn’t too different from hamburg’s dt6 which is going to replace older trains and in my opinion looks much better color wise with even bigger windows on the doors
I think it is similar to Sydney Metro: big front screen, automatic system. The seats design similar to Sydney LRT though with mixed orientation.
@@RMTransityou should check out The future line C of toulouse. Its part of the aerospace project which is one of the biggest project in france
The most similar is the MP14 in my opinion.
I also thought it was a bit over the top with the lighting show but then I remember it's literally one of the largest public transit project in history to actually get built, almost all at once. The GPE is about to revolutionize our capital, allowing it to expand more than never before. And people have been asking for an alternative to cars for suburbs to suburbs trips since the 60s, it's long due.
It is remarkable that it isn't phased more - largely all happening right now!
France needs to decentralize, Paris is getting too big for its own good...
@@MarquisVonLion naah. France has already decentralized Paris way too much. Paris needs to stay big if it wants to stay relevant in the global stage. Apart from cities like London and Bangkok (which are both highly centralized capitals, like Paris) we still have mega-cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Tokyo, Seoul that are ENORMOUS! and Jakarta is on its way to become yet another highly competitive hub, just like New Delhi and many other emerging Indian mega cities. It's clear that bigger is, in fact, better. So don't tell Paris to scale down, rather tell others to scale up! 🤷♂️
How exciting to see a "behind the scenes" episode! Thanks, Reece!
Thanks for watching!
Coming from the UK it's nice to get a glimpse of a sensible city investing in its future
Line 11 is also being extended to the east as part of these works, with the first stage targeted for a 2024 opening. The MP14 rolling stock has been introduced to the existing section of this line a few months ago.
Yes, though it’s technically a separate project being undertaken by RATP
For the extension to Rosny-Bois-Perrier yes, but a future extension of line 11 to Noisy-Champs is kinda part of the Grand Paris Express.
With an average speed of 50kph, I guess that the MP14 will do 100kph on this future part of the line.
@@RMTransit It's the same for M14's extensions too.
It's done by RATP except 3 stations: Orly airport, Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy and Saint-Denis Pleyel which are under SGP's management if I'm not mistaken. Which are interchange stations with "GPE proper" lines.
That's why M14 and M11 extensions both had separate websites for their projects' details, and station works sites visits during the "patrimony days" in mid-September were made with RATP personnel.
"la14plus14" for example is a site edited by RATP.
@@RMTransitBut do you know why it’s taken by the RATP instead of the Grand Paris Express Entreprise ? I mean the two are public compagnies so why is there a difference ?
@@zariyBG Because SGP, formerly Société du Grand Paris, now Société des Grands Projets, is the public company "vessel" through which a number of massive projects are and will be built.
The funding for the SGP and RATP projects is different.
The extensions being built under RATP supervision are ordered by IDFM, the region's transit authority.
RATP won't be the owner, IDFM or the region will.
What's built under RATP's leadership is funded differently than what's built under SGP, it comes somewhat directly from the region which is responsible for finding funds for it.
Anything that's built under SGP is ordered by the state and must be validated through national law, which opens a specific funding through long-term loans contracted by the region with backing from the state.
So the loans for the GPE have more favorable conditions on longer terms (like 40 or 50 years negotiated similarly to national sovereign debt).
They are considered a form of national interest project.
However, what's built under RATP is a much simpler order from the region which does not need to first pass through national law, and it doesn't get as long-term and as favorable condition loans contracted by the region and they are not backed by the state the same way.
The funding conditions, the "public utility" and eminent domain conditions and other aspects are different.
What's built under SGP has a kind of status of national interest, while what's built under RATP is entirely dependent on the region.
The "strength" of a SGP project is pretty much like for building a power plant, or a ministry.
Whereas, when it's only under IDFM and RATP, it's a regional level decision.
Line 19 that was recently proposed by IDFM, the region, and the Val d'Oise department, with strong support from many, will need to go through national law in the country's parliament to be included into the GPE project.
If it's not passed through law, it will remain a rather common regional project and may have issues interlining with M17 for the part between Gonnesse and CDG or will be more complicated to fund.
Even if in both cases it's mostly the region that pays in the end, the difference between being a state backed project and a simple regional project is quite substantial.
It's much less of a strain on the region's budget when it's state backed, thanks to the more favorable conditions, the stare guarantee, etc.
Furthermore, several lines (and stations) of the Grand Paris Express will not be operated by RATP, but by competitors.
Saint-Denis Pleyel, for example, which is GPE's main hub, will be operated by Keolis, which will also operate lines 16 and 17.
Even if M14 will still operated by RATP for the foreseeable future. And M15 will be operated by RATP Dev, the private subsidiary of RATP Group.
Though, a line or section that is being built under RATP is not in any way a guarantee that this new infrastructure will be operated by RATP.
The use of national law and this specific "vessel" that is SGP is a way to ensure that the project will be built despite the changes in government, whether nationally or regionally.
It's also a way to ensure, thanks to the very long-term loans & the state backing & favorable conditions, that the region's funds are not monopolized and blocked by the mega project.
Imagine a family where the son wants to buy a home.
If he does that "on his own", he will have less borrowing capacity and will have substantially higher mortgage drafts.
If the parents back their kid for a much larger and much longer term loan, he'll get much more favorable conditions, with much lower drafts. So he may be able to do more things with his budget in the meantime.
That's why the biggest and most expensive project is the one under SGP, and the smaller ones are IDFM with RATP.
Hope this answered your question.
Thank you for an extremely informative video.
Thinking more widely, the whole Grand Paris Express concept of metro lines linking suburbs needs to be studied by very large cities all around the world. Especially Paris's near neighbour London!
The best we can offer you is the new West London Orbital Overground, with peak frequencies of 8tph in the core section, using diesel trains. Take or leave. 😂
TfL is broke, and the British government won't fund any new public transit projects in London or elsewhere.
Idk much about how extensive the Paris metro is, but if you wanna get to London suburbs from the centre of the city there are plenty of national rail services (Thameslink, Elizabeth Line, Overground, etc) that also serve the central city area. You don't have to rely on just The Underground for rail travel in and out of the city. Then again, I'm not knowledgeable about the Paris Metro, it could be very much superior
@@face_therealityI am British, and know London well. The Paris Metro is very extensive, even more extensive than the London Underground. However both the Paris metro and the London Underground do not provide INTER-SUBURBAN links. Eg in London, there is no raillink from Croydon to Bromley, or Harrow to Barnet. The whole point of the Grand Paris Express is that it will provide INTER-SUBURBAN links. See Reece's excellent maps. London needs to copy the Paris example. (The new 'superloop' intersuburban buses have limited capacity and will get stuck in traffic jams.
@@Fan652w Ah I see. It's probably too unprofitable for London to implement a rail line linking the suburbs, especially with the ongoing TfL funding crisis. I guess people just have to make do with the superloop
@@face_thereality I am afraid that you are right! While Parisiens will get their Grand Paris Express ,Londoners will have to make do with superloop buses!.
Onboard LCD screens are also set to display the remaining travel time to each station, connecting lines with next train/tram/bus time, and of course incidents or disruptions if any.
Yep, so much useful information that makes travelling easier!
@@RMTransiti feel like the MR06V and MR03V is gonna fail for the first day with the same technical issues mp14 had in BSM in line 14
As someone living near Paris I can't wait for the line to be opened to try those out !!! Thanks for sharing it with us !
Grand Paris Express will entirely reconfigure the Paris metro area in the long term. I think we don't really realize yet.
You know you've made it when you get to try out the new Paris Metro trains! These trains look sick, the brightness is perfect, the doors are a great size for crowd flow, and it's nice that they have automatic counting sensors too! Interesting to see what an unfinished gangway looks like too! I guess on the topic of cool rolling stock, I love the MTR Disneyland Resort Line rolling stock. They were the first on the MTR to use automatic train operation during normal operation, followed by the South Island line. They produced them by refitting M-Trains with a Disney theme. Not only are the windows Mickey-shaped, but also the grab handles, and there are even little displays of bronze Disney statues.
Other cool subway rolling stock I love are the NYC Subway's R211s and the Glasgow Subway. Even if not all of the R211s have open gangways (which open gangways will help big time for crowd control), it's very much still a step in the right direction! Besides the LED screens and the cool headlights, two touches I especially enjoy are the flashing red lights when the doors close as well as the flip seats that allow space for wheelchairs. And just any rolling stock in the Glasgow Subway I like because the trains are cute thanks to how small the tunnels are, even better when it's flashy and cool like the third generation rolling stock. The little train that could!
The Disneyland trains got a special mention in my MTR video! I was so happy to be invited to this, it was really nice.
Only R211T have open gangway, and the R211s failed by having numerous problem such as flat wheels.
Wow, makes me want to go to Paris just to ride around on the Metro!
You'll need to wait for a couple of years before the new lines open but you're welcome ! 😊
These Paris Metro trains are beautiful! Gotta give kudos to the French! And of course the station entrances of the Paris Metro by Guimard are beautiful as well. Here's the story behind why they're that way: In the years leading up to the Exposition Universelle in 1900, Paris was busy building their Métro, but many Parisians were against building said Metro because they thought it would look industrial. In order to make the entrances look aesthetically pleasing, the Compagnie du chemin de fer métropolitain de Paris, or Paris Metropolitan Railway Company, held a contest with 21 participants but chose none of them and instead commissioned Hector Guimard to design entryways that were as elegant as possible.
Guimard opted to craft his entrances out of cast-iron set in concrete and painted a shade of green evocative of oxidized brass. The use of cast iron allowed him to construct the curved forms characteristic of his style, and concrete enabled him to incorporate sculpted details throughout each design, whether rendered as a roofed édicule structure or an open entourage model. In the years following their installation, Guimard's entryways were met with mixed reviews, and many were removed. However of course, the ones that remained were later realized for the Parisian icons that they are!
I was waiting for this video of the Great Paris express. i traveled on the Paris Metro a few months ago, and line 14 and its trains excited me. Everything new in Paris (urban planning, and the Great Paris Express ) in my opinion is world class.
People have talked so negatively about Paris in the last decades that the city really needs something that makes its inhabitants a bit proud of. Let's hope that will be what Grand Paris Express will become. We will know in the following years.
@@Clery75019 Je suis très content que le système s'aggrandissent, mais juste en oubliant pas de continuer de financer l'entretien, la rénovations et des nouveaux trains automatique pour Paris intra-muros !
La bouche de métro la plus proche de chez moi est la ligne 13, la 5ème ligne de métro la plus fréquenté au monde ! La ligne n'a toujours pas été automatisé (vote pour son automatisation seulement en décembre 2022), alors qu'elle aurait dû selon moi l'être en priorité depuis des années. Les MF77 qui ont été "rénové" de 2007 à 2011, et sont tous déja en majorité sale, tagué et pas très moderne.
Il m'arrive souvent de prendre la ligne 2 pour aller à la Gare du Nord, et très fréquemment je vois des lumières qui ne fonctionne plus, des tags au niveau des portes, et même des chewing-gum sur les bares en fer.
Je dois donc marcher 1,2 km pour la ligne 12, 1,4 km pour la ligne 4, et 1,6 km pour la ligne 14.
Donc en tant que parisien, je suis très fière de ces MP14 avec ces nouvelles lignes, mais il m'arrive de remettre en cause l'ordre dans lequel les choses ont été faites...
These are gorgeous train sets! Recognized the Alstom Metropolis platform immediately.
They do a good job giving all of their trains a certain look!
@@RMTransitAlstom Metropolis are great subways! In my city, toulouse they maked a kind of different Alstom metropolis that mesurate 36meters and can be extended to 48meters! And the width is a bit bigger than the mp05 of line 1 of paris! Dissapearence of folding seats and chair facing each other. And now you can have Possibility of traveling in the 2 (36meters)/3(48meters) trains. appearance of air conditioning led panels. And for the lille alstom metropolis its kind of the same execpt i don't think they have air conditioning and the train is 52 meters long and its less wider than the mp05. For Turin they choosed the same as lille for renne they choosed val and finnaly paris. The MR06V And MR03V is bassicaly longer than all the Alstom metropolis i mentioned same for mr06v but both have the same width as the Toulouse alstom metropolis they have led pannels but i don't think they have air conditioning. For the capacitys:
Alstom Metropolis (toulouse) Capacity: 284 passenger(36 meters) or 384 passenger(48 meters)
Alstom metropolis BOA(Turin And lille) Capacity: idk
And the other idk
@@RMTransit yep! Including toulouse line C metro!
Thank you for the insightful video. Having travelled to Paris several times, I love the Metro there and its crazy to think all this expansion is happening there. Can't wait for my next visit to go and check it all out.
I love the Paris metro. Such a great system.
Amazing ! I'm in Paris and this is the first video I see about my future city
I am living in Paris suburb, not far from the Line 15sud, which will open first, and it still amaze me how some travel I need to make frequently will have their duration divided by two. It take more than one hour now (it mean it is faster by car, which is a 15 minutes journey), but with line 15 il will be roughly 30 minutes !
Tu vis où et tu travailles où ?
@@IsseKonja Je suis dans le val de marne. Pour aller là où j'étudie ou voir de la famille la ligne 15 répondra pil poil à mon besoin
Il ne va certainement pas te répondre ce sont des infos personnelles…
@@sacha339 Je suis effectivement resté très vague sur ça 😅
Is it true that all Paris Metro trains that serve the city are as narrow as 8'ft wide?
I live in Seattle and we have ONE light rail line. ONE!!!! Last time I was in NYC, riding the subway was like being in a museum. The US is ridiculous.
Congrats on this amazing oppurtunity Reece, makes me truly happy to see you getting this kind of chance to create content on your channel. Hopefully youll also be able to check out the Mark V & new tube for london trains would love to see a video on them as well
It was a pretty awesome experience!
@@RMTransit I can imagine it looked like a great time!
this metro and the TGV-M really show how amazing french engineering is 😲
I mean alstom is old so they obviously made progress in engineering.
Thank you very much for taking an interest in rail news from the Paris region! I see tons of videos on the London network but very few on the Parisian one, which has become much more interesting in recent years.
damn these trains look really, really good
They are MR6V.
Wonderful enumeration of train features that I hadn't given much thought to before!
Apart from the seating layout, it is really similar to the new (also Alstom) Barcelona metro trains, the series 7000 and 8000.
I've seen slightly less new metros were the vertical holding poles split in three... now these split in four... feels like we're rapidly approaching an eldritch amount of split holding poles, I'll have to start bringing my copy of the Necronomicon on the subway just in case.
Same as toulouse line C metro!
As a transit nerd living in the city, I can’t wait for these new projects to finish up and I look forward to our new rolling stock. Ligne 11 that I live along now has almost fully changed out its entire rolling stock to newer cars with similar design elements and it’s a huge improvement; though I do miss the nostalgia of fighting with the lever/latch on the old school trains.
the MP-59/MF-67/MF-73 rolling stock have been the identity of the Paris metro for half a century. They are now historically as important as the Sprague-Thomson. Newer rolling stocks being more diverse (from MP-89 to MF-19), I don't know if we'll have a rolling stock which are as impactful in our way to identify the Paris metro any longer. But that is certainly for the better as it was a bit silly to replace the whole rolling stock of the network by huge pack as it was done before.
So jealous you had this opportunity...huge congrats. Geat video. Cant wait to ride. Thanks
My friends and I were joking after dinner at porte d'Italie around one of the construction sites that the line will never open lol. But I stand pleasantly corrected and impressed. As much as I complain about the métro, I'm ngl it works so well like 95% of the time. Maybe we're too spoiled 🤣
The metro is fantastic so are RER A and B despite their bad reputation but RER C and D are horribly unreliable and no-one takes the E
@@varoonnone7159 Well personally I do take the E, and I fear it will become very crowded with the Western extension that is due to open in 2024. I agree though that RER C and D are crap, and I hope SNCF will do something to reduce their tediously long dwelling time at each stop.
Crazy how big Paris is to have that massive network. Makes our cities in Canada look small.
It is actually not that big!
You can walk from one side of the city center to the other ( = the arrondissements = where all the current metro lines are )in 2 hours top
It’s just a really dense system that transport a ton of people
Our cities are often huge by comparison, really! That's actually more of a problem - we have so many areas with poor density that are hard to serve so we just use buses and call it a day. In the land area of our cities we could actually quite comfortably fit many millions more people as long as we're not trying to make it work with big roads & ample parking. Public transit is just that much more efficient.
I've spent a lot of time in Tokyo and it is large in area, but also has 40 million people. And for the most part, people get places on time. Aside from the morning rush hour and certain areas that get very busy with tourists you would never really feel like it's ~15 times the population of Vancouver
@@annabonnet6873 Central Paris is small, but it's only a limited section of the Paris urban area which is a lot more extensive. You cannot go from Cergy to Disneyland Paris in a 2-hour walk. There are 13 million people in the Paris urban area and only 2 million in Central Paris.
Paris is big because they build, more transit -> more density -> more transit!
@@Clery75019 if you measure the urbanized (non-rural) area of Paris on Google maps, it's still at most 25-30 km across, which is definitely a lot more than a 2 hour walk but it's not really that big considering how many people are inside that! Many Canadian cities do sprawl a lot farther than that with not much to show for it. Toronto could definitely have more than four (three? now that Scarborough RT is shut down) rapid transit lines, especially considering that Vancouver has half the population and also has three and we probably also need more
This should be everywhere!!! 👍👍👏👏👏
Just in time for the Olympics next year! The Metro train looks amazing ! Sophistication and French culture go hand in hand! Happy to get a behind-the-scenes look at the newest trains to run in Paris soon!
only line 14, 11 and RER E extensions will be ready for the olympics. and they already got all their new trains (or started to for line 11 and RER E)
Vers interesting Reece, I hope you also visited the exposition on this project at the Musée de l’architecture at Place du Trocadéro! It is very impressive.
Now that’s gorgeous. Thanks Reece and Happy Holidays!
BTW are you planning any best of 2023 video? Maybe one recapping some of the biggest transit stories of the year.
Thank you for another video on my favourite public transport system, the one that also features nifty stuff like boulangeries and fromageries near many of its stations 😀
Stunning! So cool and futuristic!!
I live next to one of the Line 15 station. It's also an SnCF transilien station but i often take my bike to get to the nearest métro station , about 1km away.
Can't wait for Line 15 to open, it's going to be spectacular.
Amazing project and beautiful trains, circular rail/metro lines would be highly requested in our city, Milan. All the metros here go from the outskirts to the city centre.
Great video as usual.
Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
Man these are super impressive. And as a Copenhagener I'm looking very attentively. These are probably the closest we have as of yet to an example of what the next generation of S-trains for the city (which need to have level 4 Grade of automation) can be. A 3 car set of these already matches the requirements for length and the 110km/h max service speed is really close to the 120km/h one demanded for Copenhagen. The carriages would only need to be widened from 2.8m to 3.2+m and they'd basically fit the bill perfectly.
Then it most likely be from the X'trapolis lineup, which comprise some of the RER trains. MI09 trains and other double deckers being the largest kind if I recall correctly.
And they can be fitted with GoA4 capability just like the Metropolis.
X'trapolis trains exist in single and double decker versions, and various types of configuration, including open gangway and all the same interior bells and whistles as the Metropolis.
They are just the heavy metro version of the Metropolis product line, and with something like a 140km/h capability by default.
Everything's customizable anyway.
Copenhagen has ordered Alstom trains to renew their S train fleet?
I forgot how short the S-Tog platforms are. That being said IIRC the S-Tog is low floor?
@@RMTransit No, the S trains are high floor, 915mm boarding height, and the platforms are generally 180m long. But the thing is, DSB with their next gen S trains wants units that will run at GoA level 4, so same level of autonomy as the city's light metro. The plan is to have an option to fit them with caps to use them with drivers in the interim. These new trains are being tendered right now and should be entered into service by 2030 onwards. 226 new units, 55-60m long per unit so upwards of 3 can be coupled together, and split apart based on demand, 160 seats+16 bike spots per unit, Grade of automation level 4, minimum width of 3.2m, and max service speed of 120km/h with an option of 140km/h.
Currently the 3 consortiums bidding for it are
Alstom
CAF
and a Siemens+Stadler consortium.
Widening the train can have prices consequences, and its not their fault alstom did exactly what the specifications said.
They can be up to 9 car sets just like other alstom metropolis but for line 15 its only 6 car sets. Most metro in France have a GoA 4 (Grade of Automation 4) which means fully automated and doesn't require human operations. The new generation of Alstom metropolis around France is many. (Toulouse, Lille, marseille, Lyon, Paris.)
Let's see the toulouse one
Toulouse Alstom metropolis specifications are
Between 2,4m and 3m of width (alstom choosed 2,70 regarding the city's density)
Air Conditioning,
36 meters in lenght (2 cars) and can be extended to 48 meters (3 cars) (2 mesurating 18 meters and 1 mesurating 12 meters)
Open gangway
Fully automated (GoA 4)
286 in capacity can be up to 386 in capacity,
29 seats each car
In railway
Between 2,6m and 3m in lenght (alstom choosed 2,70m.)
Wider doors.
Altough the toulouse one can have 9 cars which can make it 162 meters long the city wanted it to have 2 cars which made it 36 meters long.
Great looking trains. I love the head/tail lights.
There is also the extension RER E in the West of Paris (which extension to Nanterre La Folie will be delivered in April 2024, and the rest in 2026). They will have new trains with RER NG. (Double deck and very modern).
Also the CDG express to be delivered in early 2027
Indeed, tons going on in Paris
First NG trainsets are already in service...i make a video on this subject... ;)
Grand Paris Express project reminds me of Central Circle and Big Circle lines of Moscow, similar large loops outside of historical city centre, focused on transfering people from the outskirts. trains are very beatiful, remind me of new trains in Moscow metro and new Ivolga trains for Moscow Central Diameters(network similar to RER Parisienne) nice job by Alstom(the fact is, Alstom owns 20% of the company, that builds new trains now in Russia, no wonder i see similarities). big love my western european brothers and sisters!
The Moscow metro is amazing! Much love from Canada.
@@robertcartwright4374
Alstom is not related to Ivolga. Although Alstom had 10% TMH shares, Ivolga is a domestic project made by TVZ. As of external restyling for Ivolga 2.0, it's made by a studio what is now Arino Design. Ivolga 3.0 and 4.0 are further evolutions made domestically.
@@elksalmon84 yeah, im just telling that i see similarities, and that is it, seems interesting for me. by the way, as i know, alstom still owns 20% of TMH, but no longer invests in Russia and planned to sell its part of TMH by the end of 2023
@@bsod111 yes, 20%. and yes in a process of sale.
You're welcome in our city anytime ! Thanx for your fantastic channel
Really envious. They haven't done a general public proper event yet and I've been really itching to see tne new ones in person.
As someone who worked in public transit, I love tfhe design of these trains as well as the Moskva-2020 trains.
I’m looking forward to Paris’ future. As someone who barely scraped by getting from CDG to Versailles amidst service impacts on the RER B/C within our 4-hour timeframe. Considering how well the metro filled in the gaps, this will only serve to improve an already fantastic system
It was a very cool video, thanks !
I have to be honest with you, the design looks great.
They really thought all of this in mind.
They look absolutely stunning! Hope Translink invites you back to get an inside look at the Mark V trains that just recently arrived in Vancouver!
WOW! Reese got to Paris to check out the new transit?! Reese is da transit PLAYA!
These EMUs are gorgeous! I'd absolutely love to have something like these, stateside
The line 15 will be very useful for residents because you will be able to travel to cities around Paris without going to the center of Paris. Actually if you want to go to east you have to go to Paris first and during rush hours you can have a lot of passengers going to a variety of directions so this line will be very awesome
Beautiful interior on those trains.
These are very nice Trains for the new Paris metro, Well done 👍 Au
Good catch. Very informative and descriptive.
Omg they look so pretty. I hope line 7 trains from Santiago have interiors like that
Great stuff! Impatient to see your next videos on the GPX!
They've also annouced that they're planning Line 19. I love the Paris Metro, I do wish London/UK felt as ambitions with rail transport atm
Its in project, construction haven't started.
They're so pretty!
As a Parisian the video it's very interesting, thank you !
Excellent video Reese. Those trains look fantastic and really futuristic. If you don't mind me asking, could you possibly consider doing a video on the Kaohsiung metro in the future? Taipei's Metro gets a lot of attention here in Taiwan, but Kaohsiung is really underrated as a metro for its convenience, speed, and coverage.
Looks comfortable and safe
Because the Grand Paris Express will effectively bypass the center of Paris, expect very high ridership as commuters can travel between Paris metro Arrondissements without dealing with the center of the city. That's why the new trains have to be able to accommodate more riders.
Mass transit is essential for cities. It must connect with walking, running, cycling and escooter paths and trails.
All mobility systems need to be interconnected in order to increase their use.
in love with those trains
Can't wait for the Line 14 extension to Orly airport to open later this year. It should be spectacular. !
So many New stuff in Paris these days in terms of public transportation ! It's going to change the face off the metro area forever
2024 i mean
Congratulations france from india 🇮🇳🇫🇷
At first i thought they look dangerously similar to the REM ones but then you mentioned they were Alstom Metropolis cars so then i realized they were the same model. This wants to make me move to Paris FOR LIFE. Great video and greetings from Laval!
Have you seen toulouse alstom metropolis?
@BasedMHFan Ya
@@railfanmtl alstom litteraly nailed it
That's a hot train!
Their name are MR3V/MR6V
Amazing!!!
Driverless (and elevated if you know me) train should be the staple of all metro systems eventually and it'll make people (like my childhood) love metros.
In r/vancouver, we just got our new Mark V trains from ontario (but probably not gonna run until late 2024😭😭)!
So its almost 2025 are they running?
Well researched as always. Would have liked a few more exterior shots of the route and environs
I was restricted with my filming unfortunately!
Very nice. Interesting how these don't have different coloured flooring near the doors. Having just watching Geoff Marshall's video on the Central Line train refurbishment, a point was made about how that's a new accessibility requirement, but I guess maybe that's just for the UK?
There were trials if I remember correctly, but they chose to focus on the colored seats and wall lining : red are priority seats and areas, blue for everyone else.
Apparently, it's due to the fact priority seating is mostly important during busy periods when it's de facto harder to see the floor.
I've also seen some feedback from PRM persons not really raving about colored flooring, feeling a bit like in a cattle pen and preferring side markings, like the colored sidings to indicate a "diffused" zone instead of an area precisely defined by a line. Also a feeling of better blending in and belonging to society than with a strictly defined area.
But some flooring color differentiation could be seen in some 3D preview images from Société du Grand Paris or Île-de-France Mobilités before the design was finalized for various new or upcoming trains.
I guess it was considered useless. They had PRM consultants (I mean real PRM people riding transit and giving feedback on new designs) and they probably preferred other more important details than the flooring, like handle bars at specific locations, standing pads for accompanying passengers, etc.
Ready for the 2024 Summer Olympics! 👍
absolutely gorgeous trains. wonder if there will be a slight retro shift in train designs in the future
Actually Line 17 and 18 should make a loop and converge, get united !
Those high vis jackets look wayyy to clean!
Living beside Paris I can tell that it is a real concern to have métros circling Paris because travelling from in about the same area of suburb often requires to get inside of Paris and go back
DUDE U ACTULLY GOT HERE YAY
Been 2020 since I was last in Paris hopefully in 2024 I'll visit again
Although I prefer the Berlin U-Bahn styling, I'm quite happy for everyone in Paris who will be able to benefit from this massive Extension!
Damn i look up the Berlin U-Bahn and damn that's a nice looking train !
Your north 14 line in bold on the map is a little short. Line 14 north was extended from Saint Lazare (below Clichy where you see all the rails converge and then form a triangle, right above the lower part of your L in "Line 14 extensions", that's Saint Lazare) as part of GPE.
Apparently no, it's RATP up to Mairie de Saint Ouen, that is also currently open.
Though it's the same for most of the South extension.
Only the last section of the North extension and the whole South extension aren't open yet on line M14.
SGP / GPE is in charge of Saint-Denis Pleyel, Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy and Orly Airport interchange stations as they connect with "GPE proper" lines. RATP oversees construction of all other stationsbof M14.
The extension from Saint-Lazare to Mairie de Saint-Ouen is directed by RATP.
SGP supervised the last bit to Saint-Denis Pleyel.
Interesting to know if the projedcts are on time and budget, unlike the Elizabeth Line.
That info isn’t important unless you also consider what the budget actually is!
I am not quite sure what that is supposed to mean@@RMTransit
@@davideddy5877 Delays are surpringly low on this project at this stage (only one year off compared to initial estimates) but we're far from the end so very likely there are more delays to be expected. RER E Westbound extension was initially planned for 2018 (to Nanterre) and 2020 (to Mantes-la-Jolie). Now it is expected for 2024 and 2026 respectively (6 years off). As for TGV connections to Spain via the Atlantic and Mediterranean coasts, they have been postponed to the 2030's.
@@davideddy5877 easier to come in on budget if your initial budget is actually representative of what the project will cost, rather than some combination of intentionlal underbidding and wishful thinking, I'd imagine. Probably also some other factors.
What's the value-add of the new metro connection to CDG? (Compared to the existing RER)
RER is super busy, so they are adding Metro and an Express train, since France is getting rid of a lot of Short Haul flights I imagine CDG is only going to get busier.
One other benefit is for local residents that work in CDG, which is a huge job center.
It will offer, in conjunction with RER B and CDG Express, 3 different urban rail means, with different costs and speeds.
Plus, an automated metro line is always more reliable than a driver operated train in a country prone to strikes.
It's a lifeline, and a guarantee that at least one connection, one rail-based transportation means should be operational in case of major disruption.
It's also simply added capacity, as currently the majority of people taking off from or landing in CDG use a car, taxi or Uber to get to / from the airport.
The RER alone wouldn't be able to cope with the air passengers if they switched to it, due to the major congestion by non-airport riders on the rest of the line (which is already Europe's second busiest after RER A).
If Paris Region wants to implement a true modal shift from the car to public transportation, like reversing modal shares, they need several different lines with different services :
TGV's serve as long distance access to / from CDG.
CDG Express will be the premium and fastest access from downtown Paris (from Gare de l'Est).
Akin to Heathrow Express.
Both RER B and M17 (possibly also M19 further in the future if there's interlining but that's unclear as of now), will offer access to a much wider portion of the population.
Akin to Elizabeth line and London Underground's Piccadilly line for Heathrow.
M17 or the recently proposed M19 have different routes than RER B, so they can catch more riders and improve airport access a lot for air travelers but also airport workers.
While M19 should, either directly in case of interlining or through a connection with M17, offer redundancy and a somewhat direct alternative route between La Défense business district and CDG.
CDG's rail traffic potential is large enough to require several different lines.
@@KyrilPGdriverless should reduce the impact of strikes, but presumably the rolling stock and infrastructure still require humans to perform maintenance and management.
@@thesenamesaretaken Sure but the impact that conversion to full driverless automation had on line reliability and strike avoidance was utterly massive.
During major strikes, the only lines that work normally, and even often in overdrive, are the automated ones.
When there's a 3 day strike among maintenance agents, that may create a maintenance backlog, but day to day operations are barely affected or often not at all.
When half the supervisors are on strike, you can still operate an automated line at 100% service by just asking non-striking supervisors to take over.
None if this is possible with drivers, it always has an impact on manned lines.
And in dire situations, a manager could take over supervision.
Really, it's night and day.
Plus, the "reactivity" of fully automated lines is second to none.
When there's a big concert in Paris la Défense Arena with 40 000 people and the concert takes longer than planned, no one worries about driver shift schedules etc.
When the Arena signals the transit authority that they'll release 40k people into the streets in about 10 or 15 minutes, line M1's supervisors can inject dozens of trains and switch to super peak / event frequency by the touch of a button or a click on a mouse.
And voilà! Beyoncé can sing 10 encores and finish the concert 45 minutes later than the planned end.
The line is operating at 90 second frequency until the mass of concert goers have been absorbed, and doesn't need to run top frequency before it is actually needed.
You'd need a severe maintenance backlog to really impact a fully automated line. You also no longer need to worry about where drivers take their shift and if it is the current location of your top shape trains.
An automated line can operate a full service with a skeleton crew.
I hope New York connects its subway to the airports. But the politicians have no clue this is a thing
If they are run by Île de France Mobilités (the region) rather than RATP (the city), are they actually part of the Paris Metro system, or is it a different regional network that complements the RER?
All public transports in Paris are managed by the region under the authority of Île-de-France Mobilités (IDFM). The city of Paris manages nothing. RATP is totally unrelated to the city of Paris, it's a state-owned transport company that used to have a monopoly on bus, metros and trams but is now in competition with other companies. The contract for line 15 was awarded to RATP but the contract for lines 16 and 17 was awarded to the competitor Keolis.
And to complement the previous reply and answer your question:
New GPE lines will be part of Paris metro (that's why new lines are numbered 15 to 18).
Anyway, RER lines are not technically Paris metro, but they are all part of the Paris transit system.
And the RER was for a short time named metro express regional.
All the GPE lines will de facto be integrated into the same fare system, even though some specific destinations, like airports, may require a surcharge on tickets.
I love these new trains! But its a shame that the central handrails are white and not a more bold colour. The white handrails could easily blend in with the white interior and may cause problems for partially sighted passengers. (feels a built form over function)
At least Paris generally gets it right when it comes to transit and these projects are no exception. Make it accessible, oui, but also make it fashionable. Those futuristic seat patterns ALONE make me want to visit and ride the rails.. This is how you entice the public onto transit and out of their cars... Nobody wants a downgrade to their commute from sitting in a private controllable ride to standing in an uncomfortable and often smelly tin/plastic can unless the tradeoff is worth it... This one? WORTH IT. And that smoke and laser show should be built into every station if you ask me. ;-)
You should see some of the new stations on the South section of M15 (first section of "GPE proper" new line to open in 2025)...
They're worth any light show!
Especially Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy, with its huge cylinder crisscrossed by escalators, and both M14 and M15 lines crossing at a 90 degree angle inside the cylinder. M14 being an enclosed bridge in the giant cylinder.
Or Saint-Maur Créteil, with its majestic and very deep, 50 meter tall spiral staircase in a light well, surrounded be a separated rotonda of 15 giant high-speed elevators.
Noisy-Champs, which has huge underground installations spreading over more than a kilometer in length, has a swirling upward roof made of metal, wood and glass, located in its center where M15, M16 will end under the rebuilt RER A station.
Almost all stations have dedicated original architecture and some of several are beyond grandiose.
Last time I checked (some of the stations on M15 East and West don't have much renderings yet), only 3 out of the 68 new stations share roughly the same model. All 3 being elevated stations.
The remaining 65 will apparently each get an architect and artist combo with unique architecture and unique art pieces.
Saint-Denis Pleyel is fantastic too, with an atrium like a fault-line and escalators zigzaging between the two sides of that large void. With something like 56 or 58 escalators, laid in parallel banks of 4 or more.
There's also one station that looks like a stylised P or a modified music note, by integrating a bridge over a waterway into the building.
Several stations are simply stunning.
Only the platforms will be somewhat similar.
The new stations on RER E's Western extension are also gorgeous : La Défense CNIT with its wooden and reflective metal cladding ; and especially Porte Maillot with its elongated trapezoidal cross section and transparent skylight ground-level roof, with metallic caged escalators.
It's beautiful.
These 2 are set to open in spring 2024 and there are plenty of renderings but also recent photos of the works that let you see their huge size and great design.
😅 beautiful trains!
Ok, those trains are cute. On par with Lyon trains.
i hope these are the new trains we get on the B here in Argentina!
What city in argentina?
Do ppl still jump the turnstiles?
Driverless ! Which means no impact in case of strikes by drivers ! I'm so glad, you can't imagine
Technically, Paris has 6 driverless metro lines at this stage (lines 1, 4, 14, Orlyval and both lines of CDGVAL). With the 4 Grand Paris Express line, the total should reach 10 by 2026.
@@Clery75019 including line 19 that is in project (means construction haven't started)
@@BasedMHFan Line 19 would make it an eleventh one. Yet it's only proposed at this stage and if it's getting built it won't open before 2040. There are chances another existing line would be automated by then (probably line 13).
As a lifelong munich resident, I can't help but see an interesting resemblance to our metro stock, despite different manufacturers. The new train looks like a futuristic mix of both the 70s/80s A/B class trains and the 2000s/10s C class Siemens trains. The livery is really close, too!
Loved the newer Ubahn trains in Munich
This seems to be an evolution of the interior design we have here in Lyon
Yeah other citys are inspired by this but toulouse and paris just wanna stick to their design.
Line 6 of the São Paulo subway, still under construction, already has the trains chosen and they are the same model.
No they aren't the same model but similar.
event planner for the light show in the end asks a lighting company: how much lighting effects can you do?
lighting guy: yes
They ain't paying the eletricity bills on that one
Hi! May I suggest making a video on the Mumbai Suburban Rail system? It's the busiest in the world after Tokyo's which is almost 4 times as long, imo would make for a nice video.
Are they the same Train Types that are used for the REM in Montreal?
They're from the same family, the Alstom Metropolis.
But they are, as with almost all projects, customized to the client's needs and liking.
Sometimes heavily customized, like the recent MP14 trains, which apparently are from the Metropolis product lineup but with major differences from the GPE or REM variants.