Thanks for the video although I still don’t full get the jist of this poem I hope it doesn’t come up I’m the exam?I struggle especially with this poem in selecting the right quotes and fully analysing it with deeper meaning particularly the middle and end of the poem.But I have seen your other videos and they are great helping me further revise for my Macbeth and poetry exam in 3 days time on Wednesday.I’m so nervous and thank you again for the videos!
Iambic pentameter: a rhythm of a line of poetry that is ten syllables long. It alternates between short, unstressed syllables and long, stressed syllables. Volta: the 'turning point' of a poem - its tone, topic, etc, might shift in a noticeable way. This is most typically associated with sonnets (a type of poem).
Hi Liam, I really like your videos, my English Literature teacher recommended them. :) I don´t think this poem was written with propagandist intention. I think it is too romantic for that, it´s rather artistic. Another thing is that Brooke´s early death could magnify the meaning of it and people could use it for propaganda later on. (I don´t know if it happened but I wouldn´t be surprised.) Thanks for your videos, they are awesome. I literally cried the other day with Dulce et decorum est by Owen, just because of happyness for knowing all these stuff. Thanks. :) (Oh, btw I´m a Hungarian living in Madrid, just for you to know how far your videos can get. :)
Hello Orsolya (or should that be 'hola' or 'szia'!) - thanks for your comment. I think your comment raises an interesting point; even if Brooke didn't intend to write this as a piece of propaganda, isn't it curious how it got used as such by the press at the time, in order to amplify pro-war sentiment? A very interesting debate could be had about artistic intention and reception, I think! I'm glad that your English Literature teacher has recommended my videos, and I'm really pleased to hear that you're finding them useful and interesting! Dulce is a wonderful poem, so I'm not surprised that it had that sort of impact on you!! 😊
@@DystopiaJunkie Hi Liam, thanks for your answer. I agree, art in propaganda is a very interesting topic. Altough propaganda normally uses living artists to provide pieces of works, sometimes it does happen that someone´s work gets used as propaganda. It happened to a Hungarian poet as well, called Attila József who died in 1938 but was a member of the Communist Party and had some ideological poems. During the Communist Dictatorship in Hungary after WWII he was hailed as the big communist poet, altough he has much more poetry in other topics as well. I started to translate him into Spanish and realized how diverse his poetry is actually. But I think that´s the rarer case, just like Brooke´s. I think propagandistic poems are normally written on purpose, like the one you brought as an example in the video of Dulce et decorum est, The Game I think it was called, I don´t remember, sorry. I hope you are having a smooth 2020 (as smooth as it can be with the virus around.) Stay safe, we need your videos. :)
Hi Liam - if I'd only seen Part One I might have challenged your use of the word "captured" as being too strong to describe lines two and three (it was the unwanted occupation of a space somewhere that isn't England and therefore, somehow, lesser). However, having now seen Part Two as well, I can see why you chose it; the sestet makes it clear that Brooke's outlook, whilst common at the time he lived, was both imperialistic and jingoistic to our eyes. I'm unsure about the assertion that this is the poem as propaganda; that's not how I see it. It is though, perhaps, a well-educated member of the upper classes "singing to the choir" by reflecting their prejudices. Thanks again for these analyses - they're great fun for those of us not revising for exams :-).
Thank you for another thought-provoking comment, Robutube1! The second part in particular has me nodding in thoughtful approval. Your comments always bring a smile to my face - I'm glad you're still enjoying the videos! 😊
your analysis are the best I've ever seen!!
Thank you so much for your kind words!!
thank you, needed to get this down as i was off for my lesson. My teacher recommended it was really helpful.
Sounds like your teacher has good taste! Glad to have been able to help you out 😊
hi liam, i love your videos so much and i was just wondering what which other poem is best to compare this with
Dulce Et Decorm Est is probably the best as it is about how dying for your country is not as good as the army says
Thanks for the video although I still don’t full get the jist of this poem I hope it doesn’t come up I’m the exam?I struggle especially with this poem in selecting the right quotes and fully analysing it with deeper meaning particularly the middle and end of the poem.But I have seen your other videos and they are great helping me further revise for my Macbeth and poetry exam in 3 days time on Wednesday.I’m so nervous and thank you again for the videos!
these are literally so helpful thank yooouuuuuuu:)
I know right!!!
What does iambic pentameter mean, and volta?
Iambic pentameter: a rhythm of a line of poetry that is ten syllables long. It alternates between short, unstressed syllables and long, stressed syllables.
Volta: the 'turning point' of a poem - its tone, topic, etc, might shift in a noticeable way. This is most typically associated with sonnets (a type of poem).
Knighty got some nice edits :)
I'm glad you appreciate them, Lleyton! I'll try to improve them more as I get more practise in!
Hi Liam,
I really like your videos, my English Literature teacher recommended them. :) I don´t think this poem was written with propagandist intention. I think it is too romantic for that, it´s rather artistic. Another thing is that Brooke´s early death could magnify the meaning of it and people could use it for propaganda later on. (I don´t know if it happened but I wouldn´t be surprised.)
Thanks for your videos, they are awesome. I literally cried the other day with Dulce et decorum est by Owen, just because of happyness for knowing all these stuff. Thanks. :)
(Oh, btw I´m a Hungarian living in Madrid, just for you to know how far your videos can get. :)
Hello Orsolya (or should that be 'hola' or 'szia'!) - thanks for your comment. I think your comment raises an interesting point; even if Brooke didn't intend to write this as a piece of propaganda, isn't it curious how it got used as such by the press at the time, in order to amplify pro-war sentiment? A very interesting debate could be had about artistic intention and reception, I think!
I'm glad that your English Literature teacher has recommended my videos, and I'm really pleased to hear that you're finding them useful and interesting! Dulce is a wonderful poem, so I'm not surprised that it had that sort of impact on you!! 😊
@@DystopiaJunkie
Hi Liam, thanks for your answer. I agree, art in propaganda is a very interesting topic. Altough propaganda normally uses living artists to provide pieces of works, sometimes it does happen that someone´s work gets used as propaganda. It happened to a Hungarian poet as well, called Attila József who died in 1938 but was a member of the Communist Party and had some ideological poems. During the Communist Dictatorship in Hungary after WWII he was hailed as the big communist poet, altough he has much more poetry in other topics as well. I started to translate him into Spanish and realized how diverse his poetry is actually.
But I think that´s the rarer case, just like Brooke´s. I think propagandistic poems are normally written on purpose, like the one you brought as an example in the video of Dulce et decorum est, The Game I think it was called, I don´t remember, sorry.
I hope you are having a smooth 2020 (as smooth as it can be with the virus around.) Stay safe, we need your videos. :)
great analysis will help me a-lot with my test
Good luck! 😁
Hi Liam - if I'd only seen Part One I might have challenged your use of the word "captured" as being too strong to describe lines two and three (it was the unwanted occupation of a space somewhere that isn't England and therefore, somehow, lesser). However, having now seen Part Two as well, I can see why you chose it; the sestet makes it clear that Brooke's outlook, whilst common at the time he lived, was both imperialistic and jingoistic to our eyes.
I'm unsure about the assertion that this is the poem as propaganda; that's not how I see it. It is though, perhaps, a well-educated member of the upper classes "singing to the choir" by reflecting their prejudices.
Thanks again for these analyses - they're great fun for those of us not revising for exams :-).
Thank you for another thought-provoking comment, Robutube1! The second part in particular has me nodding in thoughtful approval. Your comments always bring a smile to my face - I'm glad you're still enjoying the videos! 😊