@@codebus They barely walk inside a Las Vegas casino... how are you supposed to ask Americans to walk *outside* one? Neither the Americans or the Casino are interested in that
another thing about economy and ecology of trains vs. electric cars that people often forget... electric trains run without batteries,... the biggest problem EVs have
True. Plus the energy conversion needed for electric trains is significantly more efficient than the conversion from the high voltage from powerlines, to the energy used for houses, to the convertor for the tesla, and the pass through for the voltage safety circuits. Trains if I am right get the power from either power lines, or through the rails (depends on the train) and then just needs to go through motor controllers to the motors. And even then, why not have the roof of a tesla solar panels? Thus it would extend the range a good amount, and along with that. You don't need to plug it into the wall. It would be even more efficient for charging. Its so bizarre on why people think that these are good things. Plus you can make trains significantly more comfortable than cars. Along with we can set up a nationwide high speed rail system that can take you from California to New York in about 13 hours. Not as fast as planes, but we can have trains as cheaper too. With higher comfort standards. So many of these things we can easily get through with public funding. High speed rails would be so much better. My state is starting to do a rail system that works out very well. Their goal is to get it to the main airport to all of the major tourist attractions, and other major cities. Which has cut back dramatically on pollution being able to see the largest city from 50 miles away rather than being blocked from smog. Plus its more effective and gets rid of our reliance on oil. Then have busses set up with electric motors. I think it would be the best thing in the end, but we will see
@@DeathProductions200 the conversion of electricity for trains is not significantly more efficient than for EVs. It may be relatively speaking but in absolute terms, we're looking at something like 99% efficiency vs 98%, that's pretty much an insignificant difference. That still doesn't mean we should use EVs instead of metro of course.
@@mikosoft batteries wear out and have to be replaced. plus charging takes the cars out of commission for an entire day. its incredibly inefficient in comparison.
@@HliarusProd you are carrying around the battery with you. But the goal is to move passengers. Well, actually with cars, I guess its regarded as an inseperable part of American culture. It symbolizes 'freedom'. Although there isn't much left of that if you are sitting on one of those LA freeways, or in an underground tunnel with the car doing the driving for you.
Feel grateful that living in the space or other planet still requires a functioning Earth to sustain, otherwise all the riches like Musk will definitely rob all resources and bid farewell to the Earth.
Nothing wrong with putting stroke-inducing neon lights in a narrow underground tunnel, where a driver would need to be extra concentrated on staying on track.
Typical Las Vegas. Does nothing to solve the actual issue of accommodating transportation needs to the endless grid of single family home residents outside the flashy strip. The goddam main roads are 6 lanes wide. 6 LANES WIDE for gods sake, and everyone drives like a jackass.
Yup. It's a "you could take this home" showcase to get you to want to buy one once you're done blowing your money at the casino. Somehow. Honestly, it's just something that only benefits casinos. The tunnels won't go away if (when) people realize this Tesla system is stupid and blast Musk for it. Musk takes the heat, the casinos get to use the tunnels for something else and no one lays blame at their feet for it.
It isn't. There's a video called the fake futurism of musk and it supposes that this is just for the rich to avoid people. It made a lot of sense to me.
but what i thought this project would be,,,,, privately owned roads that you can only drive on if you have a tesla. that was what i thought would happen. lower traffic but only if you own a tesla
@@supertramp6011 you know people live here right it's generally a nice place to live especially when compared to California. Most locals don't even go to the strip the idea of the "strip" and "sin city " is meant to attract tourist
@@mesupposedly5291 yeah its funny how people who don’t actually live here think they know what Las Vegas is like. I grew up in California, left that shit hole and moved to vegas, i live way more comfortable here, and having the strip is just a cool extra bonus for me. Sure the casinos and stuff were started by the mob, but now the local vegas life is nice too. Theres lots to do here. So to all the people dissing vegas, i tell them to go back to their tiny little nowhere town and see how fun it is, you travel to our town, we don’t travel to yours.
"It's a highway but underground!" I love how they make it sound innovative. We already have that for more than 10 years in Singapore and congestion is still a problem lmao.
And here I thought it's common to have every few highway underground. That's why roads in Asia are sprawl nightmare since there's multiple levels and multiple connections.
Imagine you've had a tough day at work, have a migraine, all you want to do is get home and lie down, but first you have to make your way through Musk's le epic blinking gamer light tunnel.
And before you even get into the tunnel you presumably have to wait in line for a few hours as a handful of cars are trying to transport the entire rush hour population at once.
Actually that really would be seriously troubling. It's just a game for Mr Mush, he doesn't actually care about the outcome as long as it gives him some more publicity.
Poor guy. Put on some sunglasses and try to relax in your comfortable seat.. At least you won't have to experience a subway train squealing to a stop every few minutes to eject some passengers and allow others to board. What a nightmare that would be in your condition. You'll be at your destination station in just a few minutes. Hopefully you don't have far to go beyond that.
An ultra-expensive, ultra-inefficient, ultra-exclusive, worse version of a technology that’s been around for well over a century. Sounds exactly like an Elon Musk project.
And happens to appears as a big Tesla marketing stunt paid by the government, which happens to be via Climate Hoax propaganda the biggest promoting agency for Tesla. I many times wonder if Elon Musk is just the public face of some obscure agency.
Yes it would! Even one of those fake trains which is just a golf cart pulling a few trailers made up like rail coaches would be better than this. When a crude amusement park ride meant to entertain children actually works out as a better transport system you know your f*cking 'loop' is in trouble.
I went to visit the train museum in York (UK) and from the Train Museum to the City Centre there was one of those "fake trains" you see on the road for fairs to transport kids - a golf cart with some trailers. As a train fan, I decided to try this alternative experience. And to be honest? It was an enjoyable ride and actually pretty quick! So yeah, putting kid trains underground would have been much much much better!
dead silence in the room is hilarious. Also seriously, the tunnels are there, the stations are made.. a train would simply be objectively better and it's mind-boggling!
Its a tech demonstration. This is what the boring company can do for hyperloops, which Musk punted on, so he has to use his cars instead. Make no mistake, these tunnels are absolutely designed for high speed rail (in a vacuum tunnel)
@@brettgoldsmith8584 have you watched his Hyperloop video? Even if it gets turned into a Hyperloop, whom is it serving if it's blowing past neighborhoods ?
6:03 - Has this woman seen what nice subway stations look like in cities like Moscow or Stockholm? They're are a whole lot more impressive than that hole in the ground with rgb lighting.
The way she hypes an underground taxi tunnel goes to show she is an elitist reporter, probably makes $1M salary. She’s not used to seeing our peasant technology like subways, buses or trains.
@@Peramiiy there was a quick flash of a female reporter and Musk in this report also, never seen a more sexually interested reporter in the interview object ever. Really embarrassing to watch the full interview and her softball questions.
@@mwanikimwaniki6801 you really believe all them kids are his? grimes posted nudes of herself shortly after she supposedly had his kid & her body showed no signs of childbirth. in interviews musk is clearly uncomfortable round women & his mannerisms are effeminate.
Vegas Loop: - Annoying lights - May cause epileptic seizures - Bad for claustrophobics - Only for Teslas Walking: - Almost just as fast - Healthy - You get fresh air - Almost for everyone - Climate friendly
The tunnel looks really small.There's just enough room for someone to open the car door. If there's a fire in the tunnel I can see people getting trapped because of the cars.
@@moframawy5413 That's even if you can fit through the door opening. I think the model X is even worse in this respect, not better. It needs a lot of space to open.
I saw one article with the subtitle: It's not quite the high-speed, driverless future we'd hoped for, but it certainly beats walking. I would argue, no it doesn't.
As a Las Vegas resident, it very much does- but not for the reason you think. We've been gutting public infrastructure and its a literal death sentence waiting 30 min- 1 hour for a bus in 130 degree heat. Hell, it takes an hour to walk to the store 3 streets away and back. Glad to know all my tax payer money went to an air conditioned tunnel to stroke Musk's ego! /s
@@Dark_AbsoI Funnily enough, subways can often times be incredibly hard to properly cool, depending on the material of the ground. Normal Trams will probably be a better solution in very hot climates until we develop a better way to insulate and cool subways.
@@thatcityboy73 nah, too much effort, they will probably just let the place to rot like many other places in los angeles. Just look at skid row or venice beach
@@DaBlueDonut skid row is actively maintained as a place for the city to cordon off the majority of its homeless in one area, Venice beach.... you have a point
I have breached the idea of public transportation to my american friends. Generally the answers are along the _Public transport is for the poor_ and _I would rather sit in my own car for 5 hours than to breathe the same air as hundred strangers_
I've seen this exact discussion on an instagram post. Some dude saying Americans just have much higher standards of living than us poor europeans and they can afford to own car while we can't. They're not even self aware.
@@TheBonsaiZone I think it's more like advertisement for the tesla cars. People tend to want something more if they were allowed to use it or being physically close to it. That's why many workes in retail trade put the products you may buy in your hands.
I feel sorry for them, because you just know this will not exactly be a high class job that pays alot. These poor sods will spend their day driving up and down a narrow tunnel with the most obnoxious RGB lighting I've ever seen, and that says alot given this is vegas.
Agreed. I fail understand the logic of these fanpeople all over making videos about this rich egotistical pompous businessman, defending his every stupid decision and most importantly, becoming part of this horrendously absurd fan brigade. It's people like this that make a part of me go, "Fuck it, let humanity go extinct, lets just help it on its way. There's not much worth saving here."
@@blastisocco honestly, that looks like a great way to stay a chain reaction of lithium battery fires: small tube with only two directions for ventilation means that it'll spread fire from the crash all the way back to the terminal in record times while flooding the exit with toxic fumes and deadly heat. And that's assuming that it doesn't just build up a large enough pressure gradient to collapse the tunnel.
because here in the states the motor culture is intense - middle class wealth is concentrated in suburbs outside and around cities making it important for everyone to have personal methods of transportation. Due to the way people live it feels more convenient to own automobiles than use public transport everywhere. Intercity travel is the worst of it - back in the middle of the last century automobile companies lobbied congress to prevent the construction of any major intercity public transport projects - like busses. It is a shame.
Because in America they aren't fast, and they aren't practical. America spans an entire continent, with a relatively dense population on the coasts, but fairly sparse in the interior. Making a public transportation network that would connect even just 40% of the population would be absurdly expensive. And if I have to drive to the train station to take a trip that would take the same amount of time as driving, I may as well just drive or take a plane.
@@diffeebradley strawman. the context is making cities navigable, not an "absurdly expensive" cross-country train which wouldn't be that expensive to begin with, compared to the costs all of our motor vehicle accidents on highways seem to incur constantly.
There are just three things behind everything Musk does : 1) He is a classic megalomaniac 2) He hates trains 3) He believes everyone but himself is stupid
Summarizing, he's a class B joker who tries to show everybody that he cares about the earth but just wants to make more and more money by posting idiotic jokes for his zombie head followers.
I was fortunate enough to attend Minecon in London in 2015, where on the live stage Infront of the entire attendance they announced that Minecon had a roller coaster on the convention floor, which was met with thunderous applause, whooping and cheering. The queue for this roller coaster wrapped around the convention hall the entire first day, and then on the second day there was curiously no line at all. It was on that second day, having done everything else at the convention that my friends and I decided to go into the hall where the coaster was set up to try it out. After walking back and forth through rows and rows of cordonning for the queue, we walked through the doorway to discover that this "coaster" was in fact, I kid you not, a few golf karts that snaked through a series of Minecraft themed cardboard cutouts in a small side room of the centre, lit by RGB lights. This stupid tunnel under Las Vegas reminds me exactly of that coaster, not just because it's electric cars rolling slowly around a track, but because there was so much anticipation and hype for something that turned out to be so unbelievably lame haha
Freeways and highways are different. Freeways everyone drives fast. Highways usually are one lane and can sometimes get really slow. This is just your average trail to some camp in the middle of nowhere without the rotting concrete.
@@hamzerpanzer yeah, I know. But some highways can get pretty slow, you'd know if you live in California trying to get up a mountain in the middle of the night. Imagine that, but with more hazards and no cracks in the concrete.
@@EllaKarhu I am okay with this. They get what they deserve. (disclaimer for activists: STOP NOW! No reason to fight. It is called cynical satire:P a disclaimer is always necessary, we are on the internet!)
"In Tokyo, where I took these pictures from..." I could tell. I've been there. They simply have the best possible public transportation system. It's cheap, quiet, timely, clean and incredibly useful.
@@yodesuyo I mean, when there are that many people you have to move you are going to have that much crowding. Now imagine how much more space that crowd would take up if they were all seated in cars on the road. See the issue here?
@@iliaadamanthark8336 im surprised it's legal the health and safety of conventional car tunnels are insane with fire escapes and extinguishers, sprinkler systems, emergency lanes etc.
Funny thing is they claim it's cheaper for them to build this tunnels. When they could spend 20% more money to get a 50% larger tunnel for trains that would have a 1000% more capacity. The boring company is a fraud.
@@Leo0718 are you stupid? this not how scale in the tunnel industry works. a mile of subway can cost multiple billions of dollars, while a mile of boring tunnel is projected at 10 million plus being a whole lot faster
@@eirikgamst2264 Dude, they didn't even hit their own goal. Haha. It cost them $55 million to make 1.7 miles. that's about $32 millions per mile. Already off. And this fraudsters aren't probably factoring the pavement, cars, and the LED lights to scrape cost reports as low as possible. I gather that's also why the stations and tunnels look like utter unsafe garbage. And it took them a year, any other company would've made more miles of significantly larger tunnels in that time! Tunnels get more expensive the wider they are and they are still built, you know why? Because when they are big enough you can put two trains side by side and get to move thousands of people an hour, through hundreds of miles, by a single employee, with safety measures. They are so embarrassed of this hole that The boring assholes and Musk are refusing inquiries from the press. It is barely being showcased on their webpage because it is the only project they have. This guys are struggling with the concept of subways 200 years after subways were invented. Just accept you were fooled by a snake-oil salesman and move on with your life.
@@eirikgamst2264 Price is irrelevant if the money is wasted. If you really want to go cheap build surface rail. The best part about that solution is Musk can't reinvent it for a Tesla because... wait for it... we already have roads. :P As someone who depends on real public transit, and who has ridden electric light rail this little Vegas Loop is an absolute joke. It accomplishes literally nothing while wasting lots of cash. The epitome of modern America and conservatism!
@@eirikgamst2264 wow so they only waste $10 million/mile for useless tunnels that maybe a hundred people will use an hour? (Provided this is during an hour where there isn't a pileup in the tunnel causing dozens of deaths due to the lack of emergency exits and ventilation for CO)
Let's not forget it looks nothing like the CGI Hyperloop clip he released to the public a few years ago, the media were all over it like flies to shit with "oohs and ahhhs...how technology their electric jesus is."
Vegas should've built a Metro, but to avoid being called CoMmUnIsT, they then should've called it an underground rollercoaster with more than one entry and exit point.
@Edward Irra Lol "officially". I am a communist - trust me, the Democratic Party is a hardline pro-capitalist party. Are you one of those Americans who think that socialism is "when the gov't does shit"? Lol that's just stupid on so many levels. You can manage capitalism with more or less gov't intervention but it isn't socialism. Socialism is getting rid of capitalism and running things on basis of free associations of workers & grassroot communities etc. The Cold War really fucked with your heads.
When you said "a train can carry thousands, a car carries only 5," that earned you a like and subscribe from me. I love seeing more and more people who are as obsessed as I am about public infrastructure, public transport, and making sure it's affordable and publically owned makes me happy.
That's so true like as someone who uses public transport pretty much every day when travelling to school it's so convenient driving everywhere would just be a pain in the ass especially when on train it's way more quicker plus its better for the environment especially when you use eco friendly technology like their a bus in my city that's powered by vegetable oil
I am the exact opposite of you. I love driving. Public transit is inferior. Taking your car is always faster. Here in Los Angeles there is free parking everywhere. Electric cars are vital so cars can become more eco friendly. Additionally self driving cars will make driving even more efficient. Lastly, you don’t have to stop every couple of mins like a train/bus does. I get to go DIRECTLY to my destination. Cars win, but hey, if you enjoy being crowded on a train with people sneezing and coughing and spreading COVID. Great for you man.
@@dlazo32696 its only faster if you have no public transportation infrastructure of any kind. And electric cars aren't exactly the pinnacle of eco friendly engineering; they require huge amounts of lithium to be excavated from the earth and manufactured into batteries, a process that is extremely pollutive The point about all cars becoming automated is valid, but it wouldn't be a problem in the first place if we actually had public transit. Think about all the time you spend sitting in traffic. imagine if you could just get on a train, travel at speeds higher than a normal car, maybe stop 1 or 2 times and then arrive at your destination. From there if you still have a ways to go, you could just get on a bus and get taken the rest of the way. It would probably be faster than taking a car through urban traffic, actually, it would be faster. Cheaper too, you wouldn't have to buy a car in the first place or pay for fuel. Just a small bus or train fare
"Car culture is difficult to change" I came here as someone who enjoys car culture. But I never see cars as a be-all-end-all solution for transport. Cars that excite me are basically weekend toys. For daily stuffs? I'd rather be in public transports. I can sleep, I can listen to music, I can do all other stuffs. Including suffering an existential crisis on my way to work. So yeah. Get rid of normal mundane cars, put everyone in public transport. Or bicycle. And built better sidewalks for pedestrian.
I kinda agree, you know. Due to the pandemic I am car-bound, and I enjoy listening to my own music as I make my way to work, but it would be nice to ride the train again and have time to write stories or catch up with my favourite RUclipsrs. The train trip is only 5 minutes slower than driving anyway.
A one lane highway, the type that hasn't been built in a hundred years, and appropriately with the speed limits of the time! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit
golly it sure would be a shame if one of those cars were to malfunction in the narrow, single-lane tunnel that wouldn't allow the cars behind it to go around, thereby holding up the entire system and leaving passengers trapped in a hot underground tube until maintenance crews could get to it.
I mean... they don't have any other way of getting people out of the cars other than the regular doors, and the tunnel is super narrow so yeah, you are stuck there until the maintenance dudes fix the thing.
"So, we've got the tunnel - now, when will the trains be ready?" "Trains. Uhhh... riiiiiight. Uuuuuuuuuuuh." "We _did_ design trains, right?" "Weeeeeell... Aaaactually, we've decided to go with Tesla cars. No tracks needed, and we've still got a bunch sitting around. It's perfect!"
Even when you forget railway, and look at the sophisticated and efficient road system in Tokyo, that whole loop idea looks more like an April Fools' joke. For example, Yamate Tunnel, wholly underground, is 18.2 km long, with 2 lanes in each direction (4 in total), and is an actual road with much higher throughput. Apart from tunnels, there are many elevated roads, often with two (sometimes three) levels above the ground, running for tens of kilometers through the very center of the city with frequent exit/entry points.
@@justalostlocal though for that we will have to wait until 2027 when it starts and connects Tokyo and Nagoya at first (285 km) with the speed of 505 km/h.
I love the stigma today that just slapping the word electric/tesla on something now makes it eco friendly, even though most electricity is generated by non renewable sources. Especially now with a march on shutting down nuclear power.
Leave it to Musk to fuck it up. Rather than a clean and efficient metro system we get a PC gamer's RGB light show in a tunnel with safety measures that barely fit within minimum requirements...
Besides being possibly the most pathetic urban transport solution ever, the entire thing is a death trap. Google 'tunnel fire' and then 'Tesla fire' in that order and you'll know what I mean. You could not pay me to go on the bloody thing.
honestly calling this an elaborate scheme to sell more cars would be giving Musk too much credit. I think he's just so egotistical he legitimately thinks this is a fantastic idea, or he did at least at one point and its too late for him to go back now (he can't say any of the ideas he came up with before are stupid after all).
Indeed. At most 69 cars are going to ride this tunnel. I don't think that number matters for Tesla or Musk. That's just a vanity project conceived without regard for efficiency of any kind.
Elon Musk has the same problem that I had once I became pretty competent at Software Engineering. When you learn how to make cool things, you start thinking of solutions first and then considering the actual problems that it solves later. It's like having an inclination to make a "data-driven crypto-AI NFT generator" and you're like "yeah, that's really cool" and then it just folds when someone asks you "but why?" And if you can sort of kind of justify it by pointing out which problems it solves, then anyone can point out a million simpler and more practical solutions that would solve those problems more effectively. But I'm a 22 year old programmer and he's a billionaire, so when I make a stupid idea, I get laughed at, but when he does it, he just drops a few million to market it to dumbass Redditors and get worshipped for it.
Elon Musk didn’t have the authority to build the LVCC Loop on his own. He (or the officials at his company) had to create a proposal and sell the idea to the LVCVA. Those who proposed underground and elevated trains had to sell their ideas also. In the end it came down to TBC’s $50 million loop it another company’s $210 million elevated train. At the last minute the other company said they could do it for $85 million. Whose pocket was the extra $125 million supposed to line? The LVCC Loop is working, by the way.
As I said when WTYP covered this, he's combined the high construction cost of a subway, the inconvenience and low speed of a bus, and the inefficiency and high running costs of a taxi, to make something that is worse than any of them.
i hope your not calling BO-RAP basic because i would officially make you my arch nemesis. but I do agree, if BO-RAP is to be played, it must be with the highest volume
@@suna7511 I think its a great song, and I dont think there's many who hate it. But that's kinda my point, yknow? Its the most common favorite song, so when I hear it playing in a public setting, it comes across as "Uuuh, I want music people like, just put on Bo-Rhap." No thought to it, no taste in music, just put on what everyone likes.
I'm sitting here in my garden in a village in Central Europe I look up at the sky and roofs of my neighbours' houses, peace and quiet all around me, bees are buzzing and birds are singing And amidst this beauty I can only think "I refuse to belive America is real"
Never understood train fanatics. But after seeing Tokyo and comparisons to the rest of the world including Europe. It's hard to not get excided about trains.
I wouldn't consider myself fanatical about trains...but man it gets you places faster than sitting in noisy traffic would if done right. The "if" is a lot bigger than it realistically ought to be in a world not run by morons.
You just know that they would love nothing more than actually have it fully self driving (people are expensive, even the kind of slave labour that being a driver amounts to) but there is just not a snowballs chance in hell that they get this certified with their questionable, way too small tunnels without emergency exits and tesla's current state of autonomous driving - especially in the areas where people board and exit :).
Japan's self-driving systems are way better. Yet, they don't constantly brag about it like Americans. Just look at Honda, who introduced the world's first Level 3 autonomous system, called Honda Sensing Plus. Since it is Honda, you know it will be very reliable. Toyota, who is similarly reliable, also has similar plans in the near future.
they had to have drivers due to local authorities and safety regulations, it requires a lot more testing and engineering for the system to be ran in self driving mode, which is sure to happen over time, in the mean time the system as it is will already be operating
This is honestly a thing I came up with when I was 17 in a competition to solve the car problem in cities... Yeah I lost, turns out this is the same thing a highschool kid came up with in like 2015 and people thought it was dumb back then too. To be fair, I only had 1 hour to think about it.
@@FidelCattto Lmao he can keep em, they aren't worth anything. The best idea I had was about a an evil empire of teddybears fighting dragons in space. Elon can keep the other ones.
Here my take on how we can solve it: 1. Make personal transportation more expensive. 2. Encourage public transportation and improve it. 3. Build a few underground tunnels so that if there happens to be a situation where we have excess cars, the extra cars can be directed through tunnels so that traffic on the ground is 0. Make the tunnels wide and make it safe. 4. Encourage carpooling
4:10 also worth mentioning that a considerable amount of private motor vehicles in Japan are highly efficient Kei Cars that have a maximum power of 64 HP. In 2020, 40% of new cars sold in Japan were Kei Cars. Daihatsu was leading the segment with selling 535k alone. Meanwhile in the US, the most popular new car is - and has been for a good while - the Ford F-150.
The funniest thing is that mars isn't even that great of an escape. Living on Mars would be the shittiest quality of life imaginable, you are cooped up in a life support pod and if you want to go outside you need to be in a space suit. It literally sucks. Also that isn't a way for humanity to survive, you would literally just end up going extinct. Unless you live in a science fiction fantasy escaping to Mars is a stupid impractical idea. Much better to just stop earth from being destroyed.
Americans believe that wealth equals intelligence. That's why eveything this carnival barker says is lapped up by the fanboys as the "greatest idea ever".
I'd say it does most of the times, but because it's another type of intelligence. Is this smart from a technical viewpoint? Absolutely not. Is this a smart way of ripping people of their money? Definitely. Trick people into thinking something is modern and innovative and money will literally fly your way the Edison way.
Of course. You need to be smart, well educated and hard working to be rich! All the doctors and researchers and engineers and, um, bankers and lottery winners and bitcoin investors and heirs and, and.. oh, look, a flying cow!
Best part: Tokyo Train companies are actually *privatized to the point where they own the very land surrounding the tracks.* Pretty compatible with the US Mindset. Difference is that there, the companies collaborate with each other for the greater goal and each people of those companies are as subservient to their society and state as any other person; no privileges for «gibin mor wurk».
As far as I know they were always Privat companies. There is a lot cooperation between Privat companies and government in Japan, which unfortunatly digresses into collusion more and more, for example Fukushima. Showing again, what was once good, does not need to stay like that.
@@alexanderriedelsheimer1096 Actually some were government owned company (known as Japan National Railway, abbr. JNR) privatized some decades ago, while some others are private company since established and even now. pretty much same with the US (Amtrack + other private rail)
"His utopia isn't Star Trek, it's Blade Runner." Correction: Blade Runner looks cool and it's world is populated by interesting and cool characters like Rick Deckard and Roy Batty, Elon Musk's Utopia looks kinda shit and is populated by rich Silicon Valley douchebags who lecture you on personal responsibility for your actions while refusing to take any for their own.
@@thejuiceking2219 It could probably work as a dark comedy, like Terry Gilliam's Brazil (Brazil is a movie, also don't bother with anything but the director's cut, the original had over an hour and a half removed).
I hope Elon really does think he can escape to Mars. Life on Mars would be brutal and unforgiving and completely dependent on regular deliveries from earth.
People like to think the rich want to leave the planet, but no rich person wants to do that. The rich will buy the prettiest places on earth. Musk just wants to go into the history books as the guy whose company sent the first human to Mars. It's about his ego.
Don’t forget the “president” of spacex what’s her name, let slip “I’d love my clients in Dubai to have meetings in Europe or the u.s. and be home in time for dinner” when talking about point to point starship flight...yet the plebs still think all this will be for them lol
Aviation enthusiasts were convinced that the Concord would lead to all commerical long-distance flights becoming super-sonic. In the end, it was just a way for rich people to travel between the US and Europe quickly. You'd think we'd learn by now that this shit never trickles down.
You all nailed it. This is for the non pleb exclusive elitist class. “Adam Something” too gave me a revelation that the commercial space travel is for the elitist non plebs if they happen to nuke Earth in a momentary weakness of their gigantic ego being hurt by the opposite side.
I don't think anyone involved said concorde would be cheaper... But it did do what it was supposed to speed wise. Musk says his bs projects are going to be cheaper all the time. though.
@@joinedupjon - Many in the industry were confident that super-sonic was the future of long-distance commercial flight. That the cost would come down eventually and start replacing conventional jet aircraft. Boeing even designed one of their jets so it could be easily converted into a cargo plane when this happened.
Las Vegas is an interesting case! They have a strong taxi driver lobby working around the clock to prevent subways from happening. Failure of public transport like the monorail or the loop is by design
Public transport systems are generally unnecessary if an automobile infrastructure system is already in place. Everyone owns a car, so no one takes the train, so there is little mass transit, so everyone needs to own a car. Many American cities were built well after the automotive culture was already in place. Las Vegas, for instance, only had a population of 8,400 in 1940.
@@yohankapri4285 I wouldn't call it unsustainable. High population density is going to have its issues. But, there is little push for reasonable mass-transit in the USA. Instead, the focus is on boondoggle high-speed systems that never come into fruition, tourist attraction monorails, and the like.
After realizing just how shitty the public transportation infrastructure and city planning is in America I am genuinely considering noping the fuck outta here and heading to Europe just so I can walk/bike/take the bus to 90% of locations I visit every week and don’t have to drive so goddamn much
Netherlands is probably the best you can get (subjective to some degree, of course) but it's pretty decent almost everywhere in Europe. Even the more car-centric cities still have mixed zoning so you're never more than a bike-ride away from basic services
Don't go to the UK. Ireland is ok. Even if the EU is not perfect, it's honestly one of the best things Europe has done. We profit of it constantly. Many ppl just seem to forget this amidst all this political bullshit.
How can this tunnel be legal? I can see no ventilation, no fire suppression and no way you can get out of the cars in an emergency. Good thing they use EVs and not ICE cars 🤣 In Germany this would not be possible, not even as a pedestrian tunnel.
@@SharienGaming What the last bit is referring to is using an ICE vehicle in an unventilated tunnel in NORMAL (no emergency) situation: carbon monoxide poisoning. BEVs remove that issue. But as you said, both types are doomed in this specific tunnel in an emergency.
@@dbclass4075 oh absolutely - even pedestrian tunnels of that length would require ventilation and emergency exits that tunnel is a deathtrap whatever way you look at it
As a car guy, this proposal I could live with. Ban cars from city centres and increase the amount of public transportation, but keep them for the areas at the city limits as well as rural and smaller communities where it is actually beneficial. And maybe inter-city travel. :)
You're not totally wrong, but cars in city centres aren't really the problem. Low-density cities are. That's what creates the massive need of private motoring and the corresponding highway infrastructure. Like when you have a miniscule "downtown" and then miles and miles of suburban private housing stretching out in every direction. Which unfortunately includes about 90 percent of all American "cities". BTW, I'm a car guy too. I love cars. I just hate what was done to both American and European cities after WWII.
After that talk about trains being awesome at moving huge numbers of people, that shot descending into that stupid multicolor cavern with a couple of cars in it was physically painful. Well done, sir.
You are wrong about the tesla cars in the tunnel holding only five. Tesla's load capacity is under 400kg so it would hold around two and a half americans.
Oof. I lived in Tokyo for 10 years. That brought back some serious nostalgia. Especially the view from the Saitama Railway Museum. One thing that I find crazy is that Japan has a ‘train culture’. Seriously, go look up the Kyushu Shinkansen ‘BOOM BOOM’ commercials, or any commercials for the e4, e5 or e7 Shinkansen. Or the Keio Liner, Narita Express, Keisei Skyliner, the Haruka, etc… they have trains on the brain! It was amazing to witness.
@@InLoveWithCities they even still use fax machines. It's a testament to how technologies can simply coexist and not have to become 'obsolete' for no reason.
@@krunkle5136 People make fun of fax machines, but they are really convenient than scanning each document on scanner and emailing someone. You can directly send the document in a printed condition on the receivers side. Saves tonnes of time.
@@yogeshghadge5748 I am 24 and have no idea how a fax works. I am curious what protocol it uses and what is the "fax address". Does it only work in a closed network or can you fax long distance?
In Europe: I went from my home in Italy to Vienna (600km) and stayed there 4 days all by mass transit (Trains and city transport), not a single minute spent in a car. I don't know how the richest and most developed country in the world can make the same thing a reality....
I don’t own a car. Had one for a few years until 1982 because mother wanted me to drive her to local places. Absolutely hated it. When mother and car both expired at about the same time I stopped driving. Best thing I ever did. I have never used Uber, not sure how it differs from a normal taxi. Haven’t been in a taxi or mini-cab for probably about thirty years. Can’t remember when somebody last gave me a lift in their car, probably more than ten years ago.
Also, I have just noticed something. The diameter of the Loop tunnels seems to be either 12 feet or 12 feet, 6 inches, depending on source. This is actually more than London Tube tunnels (typically 11 feet 8 inches or 3.56 metres, though the new Northern Line extension has huge tunnels). Glasgow Subway is even smaller. So yes, why can't we just run a train/hyperpod in them?
Nice rebranding there! Simply buy a few old London Underground Trains like the soon-to-be-retired '72, '73 and '92 train stocks. If '73 is too old for you, buy the '92 or get a new train like the new class 717 train from Siemens.
I have been saying this for a while and none of my Elon Daddy loving friends seems to understand is ... Elon Musk in not Thomas Wayne trying to fix a broken City but Lex Luthor trying to ensure city stays broken so that he can grab more money.
@@T1Oracle no doubt tesla is great. But it doesn't means he is doing things for the right reasons. He will everything to appeal to current and upcoming generations.
@@0Adnin I don't think that anyone that "admires" Elon would do so because of his morality man, regardless of his motives he is doing commendable things; and i also don't think he's trying to appeal any generation, on the contrary people appeal to his "vision", ideas or whatever.
That's stupid. Americans don't walk in meters. Duh! (LOL!) BTW, from the airport to the convention center is over 3mi, or about 5km. That would be an interesting walk with all your bags and 50°C outside. Bring a hat and LOTS of water.
No the communism aspect comes in when annoying poor people demand that every form of transportation be public transportation, where everyone is reduced to the lowest common denominator and crammed into a tube with a bunch of strangers. And that its almost always commies that pop up and start reeing about how amazing trains are. freakin foamers.
I was surprised to find out that the Glasgow Subway system uses the same size tunnels. Doesn't mean anyone in their right mind would want to build a system so small now. Indeed no one should be able to build such a small system now as it fails to meet modern safety standards.
to be fair the Glasgow subway system is kind of garbage, on average people use it 24 times a year compared to 152 for london. we used to have poggin trams tho, went all the way from Clarkston to bishopbriggs
And in Glasgow's subway's defence, it's the third oldest subway system in the world. And it still works far better than this stupid garbage,despite being about 130 years old, haha.
Thinking a carmaker can solve traffic by making the cars more efficient, is like thinking McDonald's can solve obesity by changing their salad recipe...
Funny you say that, because when maccies introduced all their salad ranges to appear like they gave a shit about obesity the dressings were so loaded with calories that you may as well just get a burger and actually enjoy yourself while you're there
Err, are these cars currently full self-driving or there's a driver inside each of them? Burning 20-50% of capacity on drivers would be a cherry on top.
OMG the inefficiency!! A human has to drive each of these? When one train operator can move hundreds or thousands of people without having to queue up to drop people off? This is absolutely nuts and moronic!!!
Oh my gods, they did it. They. really. did it. I can't even proceed the level incompetence that lead to people giving the green light for that project. This or it was just bribery.
TBC had the lowest bid by a huge amount, and the quickest construction time. Now the Las Vegas area has approved an expansion along the strip and downtown with 51 planned stations. We may get to see something closer to Musk's vision.
@@kevinbailey8827 Yeah, but that's still far less effective than subway. And they could have done a cosy, furturistic looking subway for their rich customers if they wanted.
@@kevinbailey8827 If I had to make a prediction, I would say that there will be a lot of hype at the begining, a lot of people will want to try it, like some new attraction. And one year later, it will be mostly deserted. But let's wait and see how things turn out, indeed. Maybe time will prove me wrong.
@@bobiboulon My guess is that the system will be built a section at a time, so the hype will happen over and over. Once enough of it is available to be useful, we’ll see whether passengers use it.
tbh that tunnel being built is a good thing in my eyes. They're bound to notice that it's stupid as fuck and with the tunnels already being there, it should be easy to convert it into a subway
Let’s be clear: Musk won’t make it to Mars. Mars is a hellhole that we’ve barely sent a few bots to. If we decided tomorrow that getting to Mars was a #1 cultural priority, we’d probably be a decade away from maybe a manned Mars orbit. Musk will not live to see civilians set foot on Mars.
No, it's not BS. But think about the vast mountains of government and private money are spent in keeping the status quo - i.e. cheap gas - rather than taking risks on innovation and better infrastructure. One way or another, we won't have a choice but to ween ourselves off of burning dead plant matter from the Carboniferous period.
Imagine if one of those cars breaks down. It’s not even like how in a normal car tunnel where you push it to the side and call a tow truck, the tunnels are only wide enough to fit one single car, and there’s no alternate routings. The entire system would be shut down for atleast 2 hours while the cars behind all have to reverse direction and go back to the station, and then somehow you would have to bring a tow truck in, tow it to the exit, get the cars back to the track, and resume everything. On a subway, you would just route trains via other tracks and even on highways you only shut down a few feet of one lane
To be fair, a shitty underground carousel using cars as ride pods is exactly what you’d expect to find in Las Vegas
good point
@@AdamSomething I find it also amusing that they spent 50 million so American's don't have to walk 15 minutes.
@@codebus They barely walk inside a Las Vegas casino... how are you supposed to ask Americans to walk *outside* one?
Neither the Americans or the Casino are interested in that
It's an underground car park with weird LED lights...
well yea its a shitty copy of something real, kinda like what you see in vegas
another thing about economy and ecology of trains vs. electric cars that people often forget... electric trains run without batteries,... the biggest problem EVs have
True. Plus the energy conversion needed for electric trains is significantly more efficient than the conversion from the high voltage from powerlines, to the energy used for houses, to the convertor for the tesla, and the pass through for the voltage safety circuits.
Trains if I am right get the power from either power lines, or through the rails (depends on the train) and then just needs to go through motor controllers to the motors.
And even then, why not have the roof of a tesla solar panels? Thus it would extend the range a good amount, and along with that. You don't need to plug it into the wall. It would be even more efficient for charging. Its so bizarre on why people think that these are good things.
Plus you can make trains significantly more comfortable than cars. Along with we can set up a nationwide high speed rail system that can take you from California to New York in about 13 hours. Not as fast as planes, but we can have trains as cheaper too. With higher comfort standards.
So many of these things we can easily get through with public funding. High speed rails would be so much better. My state is starting to do a rail system that works out very well. Their goal is to get it to the main airport to all of the major tourist attractions, and other major cities. Which has cut back dramatically on pollution being able to see the largest city from 50 miles away rather than being blocked from smog. Plus its more effective and gets rid of our reliance on oil.
Then have busses set up with electric motors.
I think it would be the best thing in the end, but we will see
@@DeathProductions200 the conversion of electricity for trains is not significantly more efficient than for EVs. It may be relatively speaking but in absolute terms, we're looking at something like 99% efficiency vs 98%, that's pretty much an insignificant difference.
That still doesn't mean we should use EVs instead of metro of course.
@@mikosoft well, batteries will always be more inefficient, than direct contact with a power line, as will be tires as opposed to metal wheels
@@mikosoft batteries wear out and have to be replaced. plus charging takes the cars out of commission for an entire day. its incredibly inefficient in comparison.
@@HliarusProd you are carrying around the battery with you. But the goal is to move passengers. Well, actually with cars, I guess its regarded as an inseperable part of American culture. It symbolizes 'freedom'. Although there isn't much left of that if you are sitting on one of those LA freeways, or in an underground tunnel with the car doing the driving for you.
"Musk's utopia is not Star Trek, it's Bladerunner"
*chef's kiss* That is a perfect way to describe it
A NEW LIFE AWAITS YOU IN THE MARTIAN COLONIES
Feel grateful that living in the space or other planet still requires a functioning Earth to sustain, otherwise all the riches like Musk will definitely rob all resources and bid farewell to the Earth.
Wasn't his description of that Cybertruck thing "kind of like bladerunner"? So...
Blade runner is much cooler than star trek
Weyland-Yutani enters the chat.
Amazing what sci-fi got kinda right about us.
Tokyo in movies : Sports cars drifting
Tokyo in real life : One of the greatest public transit systems on the planet
I'm beyond relieved
There are legitimate car meet ups and drag races in tokyo.
@@absalongt Never knew that. Thanks :)
@@absalongt Only because the roads are free for racing. As people are using public transport instead of crowding the roads with traffic.
@@akishorekumarr i know
More public transport means people can use trains for mundane travels and Roads for fun .
I love the idea of just slapping RGB lights on a regular tunnel is called a world breaking innovation. 😀
those lights gonna confuse people even more.
Nothing wrong with putting stroke-inducing neon lights in a narrow underground tunnel, where a driver would need to be extra concentrated on staying on track.
Honestly if this happened in the 90s before the internet broadened american people horisonts they would have fallen for it pretty hard.
to be fair, we do slap RGB LEDs to flat pieces of plastic and stare at them all day
@@anindanahiyan8818 At least you can turn those off when your eyes hurt
" Part thrill ride and part light and sound show"
So 50% thrill ride, 50% light show, 0% transportation solution.
Typical Las Vegas. Does nothing to solve the actual issue of accommodating transportation needs to the endless grid of single family home residents outside the flashy strip. The goddam main roads are 6 lanes wide. 6 LANES WIDE for gods sake, and everyone drives like a jackass.
The best part is that they felt compelled to speed up the footage to make it look more exciting.
Where is the thrill in a Tesla? Especially when you're going so damn slow
I think you're generous with that 0%. Is there a way that could be a negative?
@@ericb.4313 Well... Its less space for metro
let's be serious : Tesla cars running slowly on a single lane track, is not public transportation. It's just live advertisement for Tesla cars.
Yup. It's a "you could take this home" showcase to get you to want to buy one once you're done blowing your money at the casino. Somehow.
Honestly, it's just something that only benefits casinos. The tunnels won't go away if (when) people realize this Tesla system is stupid and blast Musk for it. Musk takes the heat, the casinos get to use the tunnels for something else and no one lays blame at their feet for it.
Why didnt musk just build a train
It isn't. There's a video called the fake futurism of musk and it supposes that this is just for the rich to avoid people. It made a lot of sense to me.
It pretty much is, the place is built in resorts world which is a thrown together casino thats kinda crappy
@@ForeverLaxx probably replica Glasgow subway trains, which would work WAY better.
Henry Ford said : "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."
This is faster horses.
Aha so that's why speed hack is very popular game cheat
I never said that
but what i thought this project would be,,,,, privately owned roads that you can only drive on if you have a tesla. that was what i thought would happen. lower traffic but only if you own a tesla
@@pieppy6058 In the end, Tesla cars only or not, what Musk invented is the tunnel, and so far it s a single lane claustrophobia piece of hype garbage.
@@pieppy6058 Fun part is, that would still be more sensible than this.
I completely support The Vegas Loop. As they say "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas".
Hah, that's pretty clever honestly
On point. Let sin city wallow in their Babylonian filth. This is what you get when corrupt gangsters build their houses on sand.
Here take my like, now get out! ;)
@@supertramp6011 you know people live here right it's generally a nice place to live especially when compared to California. Most locals don't even go to the strip the idea of the "strip" and "sin city " is meant to attract tourist
@@mesupposedly5291 yeah its funny how people who don’t actually live here think they know what Las Vegas is like. I grew up in California, left that shit hole and moved to vegas, i live way more comfortable here, and having the strip is just a cool extra bonus for me.
Sure the casinos and stuff were started by the mob, but now the local vegas life is nice too. Theres lots to do here. So to all the people dissing vegas, i tell them to go back to their tiny little nowhere town and see how fun it is, you travel to our town, we don’t travel to yours.
"It's a highway but underground!" I love how they make it sound innovative. We already have that for more than 10 years in Singapore and congestion is still a problem lmao.
Google Big Dig Boston, that was a total fiasco lol.
And here I thought it's common to have every few highway underground. That's why roads in Asia are sprawl nightmare since there's multiple levels and multiple connections.
after ERP and COE, turns out what we needed to clear the roads all along was Phase 2 heightened alert kekw
at least they're kind of playing catchup with mrt construction now, not sure what to feel about North-South Corridor tho
Was looking for this comment, It's like "Wow, motorways underground? nobody has ever done that before"
Imagine you've had a tough day at work, have a migraine, all you want to do is get home and lie down, but first you have to make your way through Musk's le epic blinking gamer light tunnel.
And before you even get into the tunnel you presumably have to wait in line for a few hours as a handful of cars are trying to transport the entire rush hour population at once.
Actually that really would be seriously troubling. It's just a game for Mr Mush, he doesn't actually care about the outcome as long as it gives him some more publicity.
Pfft like this is made for working stiffs.
Poor guy. Put on some sunglasses and try to relax in your comfortable seat.. At least you won't have to experience a subway train squealing to a stop every few minutes to eject some passengers and allow others to board. What a nightmare that would be in your condition. You'll be at your destination station in just a few minutes. Hopefully you don't have far to go beyond that.
Holy crap. I just did, and it sounds terrible. I actually feel a migraine coming in just thinking about the sheer pain
An ultra-expensive, ultra-inefficient, ultra-exclusive, worse version of a technology that’s been around for well over a century. Sounds exactly like an Elon Musk project.
... That and his anime worship is why I like him. He's dumb, but my kind of dumb. Also build more trains.
And happens to appears as a big Tesla marketing stunt paid by the government, which happens to be via Climate Hoax propaganda the biggest promoting agency for Tesla. I many times wonder if Elon Musk is just the public face of some obscure agency.
To be fair, it also sounds like Vegas
@@SineN0mine3 An expensive, impractical, flashy, pointless project is the most “Vegas” thing ever
They could have built one of those childrens trains, like what you see at an amusement park, it would be better
Choo, choo. We have one of those in a park in Houston. It moves way more people than this silly Loop.
Yes it would! Even one of those fake trains which is just a golf cart pulling a few trailers made up like rail coaches would be better than this. When a crude amusement park ride meant to entertain children actually works out as a better transport system you know your f*cking 'loop' is in trouble.
Mr Choo-Choo doesnt have the same ring to it tho.
it's funny because it's true
I went to visit the train museum in York (UK) and from the Train Museum to the City Centre there was one of those "fake trains" you see on the road for fairs to transport kids - a golf cart with some trailers. As a train fan, I decided to try this alternative experience. And to be honest? It was an enjoyable ride and actually pretty quick! So yeah, putting kid trains underground would have been much much much better!
dead silence in the room is hilarious. Also seriously, the tunnels are there, the stations are made.. a train would simply be objectively better and it's mind-boggling!
Its a tech demonstration. This is what the boring company can do for hyperloops, which Musk punted on, so he has to use his cars instead. Make no mistake, these tunnels are absolutely designed for high speed rail (in a vacuum tunnel)
@@brettgoldsmith8584 I mean, with the number of pod-based systems that he keeps pushing, you'll understand when I say: I'll believe it when I see it
@@brettgoldsmith8584 have you watched his Hyperloop video? Even if it gets turned into a Hyperloop, whom is it serving if it's blowing past neighborhoods ?
Though the tunnels themselves are tiny so you’d end up with tiny mini trains lol
holy shit TF2 guy based?
6:03 - Has this woman seen what nice subway stations look like in cities like Moscow or Stockholm? They're are a whole lot more impressive than that hole in the ground with rgb lighting.
The way she hypes an underground taxi tunnel goes to show she is an elitist reporter, probably makes $1M salary. She’s not used to seeing our peasant technology like subways, buses or trains.
@@Peramiiy there was a quick flash of a female reporter and Musk in this report also, never seen a more sexually interested reporter in the interview object ever. Really embarrassing to watch the full interview and her softball questions.
@@bokhans if only she knew elon is g@y...
@@papalegba6759 lmao. Wot?
@@mwanikimwaniki6801 you really believe all them kids are his? grimes posted nudes of herself shortly after she supposedly had his kid & her body showed no signs of childbirth. in interviews musk is clearly uncomfortable round women & his mannerisms are effeminate.
Vegas Loop:
- Annoying lights
- May cause epileptic seizures
- Bad for claustrophobics
- Only for Teslas
Walking:
- Almost just as fast
- Healthy
- You get fresh air
- Almost for everyone
- Climate friendly
Only issue is that there is no fresh air in Vegas, it’s all so polluted that it’s like breathing next to Chernobyl 5 minutes after the meltdown
@@HBender Fresher than what's down in the tunnel tbh.
Con for both: You’re in Vegas
scooters would be a better solution
@@khalidaxe ruclips.net/video/T9aeMccUPY0/видео.html I beg to differ
The tunnel looks really small.There's just enough room for someone to open the car door. If there's a fire in the tunnel I can see people getting trapped because of the cars.
You want them to spend millions on safety?
Aren't some of those teslas model X with "falcon wing" doors that open upwards?
@@DiThi and after getting out from the car how can u escape a tunnel full of freaked out ppl thats so narrow?
There ISN'T enough room to open the car doors! THAT'S a MASSIVE problem!
@@moframawy5413 That's even if you can fit through the door opening. I think the model X is even worse in this respect, not better. It needs a lot of space to open.
I saw one article with the subtitle:
It's not quite the high-speed, driverless future we'd hoped for, but it certainly beats walking.
I would argue, no it doesn't.
man, we never had a better way to get around than walking till profit incentive bred innovation and horses were invented by Elon Horse
As a Las Vegas resident, it very much does- but not for the reason you think. We've been gutting public infrastructure and its a literal death sentence waiting 30 min- 1 hour for a bus in 130 degree heat. Hell, it takes an hour to walk to the store 3 streets away and back.
Glad to know all my tax payer money went to an air conditioned tunnel to stroke Musk's ego! /s
It beats walking in Vegas. In a city that wasn't disastrously badly designed, who knows, walking might even be faster for these short distances.
@@Dark_AbsoI Funnily enough, subways can often times be incredibly hard to properly cool, depending on the material of the ground. Normal Trams will probably be a better solution in very hot climates until we develop a better way to insulate and cool subways.
It's not quite a delicious steak, we hoped for, but eating cow meneure certainly beats starving 🤣
Eventually it'll be filled with homeless people, at least they'll have a roof
That’s way more useful than just a tunnel cars go through at 35mph
It’ll need up abandoned then someone will renovate into a metro
the police in Vegas would flood the tunnel with people still in them
@@thatcityboy73 nah, too much effort, they will probably just let the place to rot like many other places in los angeles. Just look at skid row or venice beach
@@DaBlueDonut skid row is actively maintained as a place for the city to cordon off the majority of its homeless in one area, Venice beach.... you have a point
I have breached the idea of public transportation to my american friends. Generally the answers are along the _Public transport is for the poor_ and _I would rather sit in my own car for 5 hours than to breathe the same air as hundred strangers_
I've seen this exact discussion on an instagram post. Some dude saying Americans just have much higher standards of living than us poor europeans and they can afford to own car while we can't. They're not even self aware.
If America was told they had to switch to public transport, then air tanks would be in high demand.
Because every time these Ladies and lords want to breath God creats new air, just for their precious lungs 😌
"to breathe in the same air as the commoners and the peasantry?? simply absurd!!"
and it's COMMUNISM! [actual paranoid American sentiment, not mine to be clear]
A Tesla long term test center made by tax payer dollars, it's actually brilliant!
Are you sure? What happens if something went wrong and a Tesla catches fire under this tunnel? This would be a disaster bro
@@hobbypsychologist6444 There are a few very minor issues to be worked out, like keeping people alive!
@@TheBonsaiZone I think it's more like advertisement for the tesla cars. People tend to want something more if they were allowed to use it or being physically close to it.
That's why many workes in retail trade put the products you may buy in your hands.
hahaha yeah soiface man
Its payd by the boring company not by the government,its all payd by customers not tax payers
I feel embarrassed for the tesla drivers in that rgb demo. They knew what was going on and had to play along
I feel sorry for them, because you just know this will not exactly be a high class job that pays alot. These poor sods will spend their day driving up and down a narrow tunnel with the most obnoxious RGB lighting I've ever seen, and that says alot given this is vegas.
@@ignispurgatorius5297 i wonder how many people will vomit in the cars due to that light show.
I mean, it's a demo as you point out. Don't think they minded too much.
It's absurd how some Redditors think he's their friend just because he makes dumb posts in the internet.
How can you not like him? He loves memes and vibeo gane
sTfU hAtEr!
Incoming "He's way better than you you dumbo"
Agreed. I fail understand the logic of these fanpeople all over making videos about this rich egotistical pompous businessman, defending his every stupid decision and most importantly, becoming part of this horrendously absurd fan brigade. It's people like this that make a part of me go, "Fuck it, let humanity go extinct, lets just help it on its way. There's not much worth saving here."
Redditors? RUclipsrs.
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OH MY FUCKING GOD JUST DO TRAINS
I agree
There's nothing more American than wanting to avoid anything public so badly that you basically go and drive your own car through a metro tunnel
Well said
You say American, I say introvert paradise
I wonder if it would be more or less trouble than regular subway trains
@@electricant55 he meant "Publicly owned", as in owned by Vegas, rather than Musk.
@@BlitzkriegOmega both apply here
bruh that single lane tunnel needs one crash and everyone's gunna be backing up 😂
One bad crash and Fire and a lot of people would be dead
@@blastisocco honestly, that looks like a great way to stay a chain reaction of lithium battery fires: small tube with only two directions for ventilation means that it'll spread fire from the crash all the way back to the terminal in record times while flooding the exit with toxic fumes and deadly heat. And that's assuming that it doesn't just build up a large enough pressure gradient to collapse the tunnel.
@@blastisocco I mean that's the innovation. Fancy way of population control with RGB lights :D :D
it astounds me how many billions of people don't see that while hero worshipping this charade.
🤣
Why is America so allergic to trains? They're fast, climate friendly, and don't need mountains of lithium ion batteries.
because here in the states the motor culture is intense - middle class wealth is concentrated in suburbs outside and around cities making it important for everyone to have personal methods of transportation. Due to the way people live it feels more convenient to own automobiles than use public transport everywhere.
Intercity travel is the worst of it - back in the middle of the last century automobile companies lobbied congress to prevent the construction of any major intercity public transport projects - like busses.
It is a shame.
Terrible urban planning and a hard-on for individualism
Because in America they aren't fast, and they aren't practical. America spans an entire continent, with a relatively dense population on the coasts, but fairly sparse in the interior. Making a public transportation network that would connect even just 40% of the population would be absurdly expensive. And if I have to drive to the train station to take a trip that would take the same amount of time as driving, I may as well just drive or take a plane.
@@diffeebradley strawman. the context is making cities navigable, not an "absurdly expensive" cross-country train which wouldn't be that expensive to begin with, compared to the costs all of our motor vehicle accidents on highways seem to incur constantly.
I think they want to turn the world into Subnautica with ION batteries, flooding, etc.
There are just three things behind everything Musk does :
1) He is a classic megalomaniac
2) He hates trains
3) He believes everyone but himself is stupid
I did t know you could read minds.
Summarizing, he's a class B joker who tries to show everybody that he cares about the earth but just wants to make more and more money by posting idiotic jokes for his zombie head followers.
No, he knows exactly that trains are better, but they are already invented and there are already companys producing them.
There is 1 thing behind this comment: the person who wrote it can apparently read minds.
He knows that induced demand is the dumbest thing as well???????? Megamind moment
"holding five"
that isn't fair! you know these will probably only ever have one or two people in them
Or half of a morbidly obese fat guy
@@UninstallingWindows Wait, what happened to the other half?
@@thegrowl2210 in the car right behind
@@gemstonegynoid7475 sounds about right
Good. I want my privacy and comfort
I was fortunate enough to attend Minecon in London in 2015, where on the live stage Infront of the entire attendance they announced that Minecon had a roller coaster on the convention floor, which was met with thunderous applause, whooping and cheering.
The queue for this roller coaster wrapped around the convention hall the entire first day, and then on the second day there was curiously no line at all. It was on that second day, having done everything else at the convention that my friends and I decided to go into the hall where the coaster was set up to try it out.
After walking back and forth through rows and rows of cordonning for the queue, we walked through the doorway to discover that this "coaster" was in fact, I kid you not, a few golf karts that snaked through a series of Minecraft themed cardboard cutouts in a small side room of the centre, lit by RGB lights.
This stupid tunnel under Las Vegas reminds me exactly of that coaster, not just because it's electric cars rolling slowly around a track, but because there was so much anticipation and hype for something that turned out to be so unbelievably lame haha
Im getting krabby land flashbacks
„This is more like a highway underground” Talks about a one lane road where cars can’t exceed 35mph.
Freeways and highways are different. Freeways everyone drives fast. Highways usually are one lane and can sometimes get really slow. This is just your average trail to some camp in the middle of nowhere without the rotting concrete.
@FieryHedgehog yeah that's annoying.
@@troypowers750 The top speed of highways is still not 35mph
@@hamzerpanzer yeah, I know. But some highways can get pretty slow, you'd know if you live in California trying to get up a mountain in the middle of the night. Imagine that, but with more hazards and no cracks in the concrete.
@@EllaKarhu I am okay with this.
They get what they deserve.
(disclaimer for activists: STOP NOW! No reason to fight. It is called cynical satire:P a disclaimer is always necessary, we are on the internet!)
"In Tokyo, where I took these pictures from..."
I could tell. I've been there. They simply have the best possible public transportation system. It's cheap, quiet, timely, clean and incredibly useful.
It gets super crowded though
@@yodesuyo During rush hour only.
@@yodesuyo I mean, when there are that many people you have to move you are going to have that much crowding.
Now imagine how much more space that crowd would take up if they were all seated in cars on the road. See the issue here?
The Vegas loop isn't a transport solution, it's merely an advertisement for Tesla cars.
Perhaps a beta test for the Mars mining drill.
Omgggg I just realised too😭🤣✋
Those loop could have serious safety issues when implemented in real transport systems... Conventional tunnels is safer
@@iliaadamanthark8336 don't worry just like hyperloop it would be failed project, well I hope so
@@iliaadamanthark8336 im surprised it's legal the health and safety of conventional car tunnels are insane with fire escapes and extinguishers, sprinkler systems, emergency lanes etc.
It costs billions to dig tunnels.
And they wasted it on tunnels too small to do anything?
Funny thing is they claim it's cheaper for them to build this tunnels. When they could spend 20% more money to get a 50% larger tunnel for trains that would have a 1000% more capacity. The boring company is a fraud.
@@Leo0718 are you stupid? this not how scale in the tunnel industry works. a mile of subway can cost multiple billions of dollars, while a mile of boring tunnel is projected at 10 million plus being a whole lot faster
@@eirikgamst2264 Dude, they didn't even hit their own goal. Haha. It cost them $55 million to make 1.7 miles. that's about $32 millions per mile. Already off. And this fraudsters aren't probably factoring the pavement, cars, and the LED lights to scrape cost reports as low as possible. I gather that's also why the stations and tunnels look like utter unsafe garbage. And it took them a year, any other company would've made more miles of significantly larger tunnels in that time!
Tunnels get more expensive the wider they are and they are still built, you know why? Because when they are big enough you can put two trains side by side and get to move thousands of people an hour, through hundreds of miles, by a single employee, with safety measures. They are so embarrassed of this hole that The boring assholes and Musk are refusing inquiries from the press. It is barely being showcased on their webpage because it is the only project they have. This guys are struggling with the concept of subways 200 years after subways were invented. Just accept you were fooled by a snake-oil salesman and move on with your life.
@@eirikgamst2264 Price is irrelevant if the money is wasted. If you really want to go cheap build surface rail. The best part about that solution is Musk can't reinvent it for a Tesla because... wait for it... we already have roads. :P
As someone who depends on real public transit, and who has ridden electric light rail this little Vegas Loop is an absolute joke. It accomplishes literally nothing while wasting lots of cash. The epitome of modern America and conservatism!
@@eirikgamst2264 wow so they only waste $10 million/mile for useless tunnels that maybe a hundred people will use an hour? (Provided this is during an hour where there isn't a pileup in the tunnel causing dozens of deaths due to the lack of emergency exits and ventilation for CO)
Wow for how badly Musk pushed and hyped this garbage, it just looks like the Dashcon of public transit.
That is the most savage roast of a form of transportation I have ever heard.
Everyone gets an extra hour in the tunnel
Someone peed in the tunnel.
it's farcical, i don't know how he can show his face in public after this ridiculous waste of money.
@@boofygoober tunnel's closed due to aids
Let's not forget it looks nothing like the CGI Hyperloop clip he released to the public a few years ago, the media were all over it like flies to shit with "oohs and ahhhs...how technology their electric jesus is."
Imagine if GM built a tunnel with government subsidy but only cars made under the GM brand can go through
Genius! Pro gamer move
Too bad gov is corrupt.
Well put
Do you want CO2 poisoning? Because that's how you got CO2 poisoning.
It’s for any electric cars to be fair
Vegas should've built a Metro, but to avoid being called CoMmUnIsT, they then should've called it an underground rollercoaster with more than one entry and exit point.
Socialists officially control the Democratic Party in Nevada so they’ll just do it anyway lol
@Edward Irra Lol "officially". I am a communist - trust me, the Democratic Party is a hardline pro-capitalist party. Are you one of those Americans who think that socialism is "when the gov't does shit"? Lol that's just stupid on so many levels. You can manage capitalism with more or less gov't intervention but it isn't socialism. Socialism is getting rid of capitalism and running things on basis of free associations of workers & grassroot communities etc. The Cold War really fucked with your heads.
@@allypoum wdym "officially" u a communist
@@TheOriginalPoon bruh you can't be serious? Democrats are huge neoliberals, Americans have no fucking idea what socialism is lmao
@@jebbo-c1l socialism is when the government does stuff and if the government does a lot of stuff that's communism" ~ Karl Marx
When you said "a train can carry thousands, a car carries only 5," that earned you a like and subscribe from me. I love seeing more and more people who are as obsessed as I am about public infrastructure, public transport, and making sure it's affordable and publically owned makes me happy.
Free Palestine Yay!
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That's so true like as someone who uses public transport pretty much every day when travelling to school it's so convenient driving everywhere would just be a pain in the ass especially when on train it's way more quicker plus its better for the environment especially when you use eco friendly technology like their a bus in my city that's powered by vegetable oil
I am the exact opposite of you. I love driving. Public transit is inferior. Taking your car is always faster. Here in Los Angeles there is free parking everywhere. Electric cars are vital so cars can become more eco friendly. Additionally self driving cars will make driving even more efficient. Lastly, you don’t have to stop every couple of mins like a train/bus does. I get to go DIRECTLY to my destination. Cars win, but hey, if you enjoy being crowded on a train with people sneezing and coughing and spreading COVID. Great for you man.
@@dlazo32696 its only faster if you have no public transportation infrastructure of any kind. And electric cars aren't exactly the pinnacle of eco friendly engineering; they require huge amounts of lithium to be excavated from the earth and manufactured into batteries, a process that is extremely pollutive
The point about all cars becoming automated is valid, but it wouldn't be a problem in the first place if we actually had public transit.
Think about all the time you spend sitting in traffic. imagine if you could just get on a train, travel at speeds higher than a normal car, maybe stop 1 or 2 times and then arrive at your destination. From there if you still have a ways to go, you could just get on a bus and get taken the rest of the way.
It would probably be faster than taking a car through urban traffic, actually, it would be faster. Cheaper too, you wouldn't have to buy a car in the first place or pay for fuel. Just a small bus or train fare
"Car culture is difficult to change"
I came here as someone who enjoys car culture. But I never see cars as a be-all-end-all solution for transport. Cars that excite me are basically weekend toys. For daily stuffs? I'd rather be in public transports. I can sleep, I can listen to music, I can do all other stuffs. Including suffering an existential crisis on my way to work. So yeah. Get rid of normal mundane cars, put everyone in public transport. Or bicycle. And built better sidewalks for pedestrian.
I kinda agree, you know. Due to the pandemic I am car-bound, and I enjoy listening to my own music as I make my way to work, but it would be nice to ride the train again and have time to write stories or catch up with my favourite RUclipsrs. The train trip is only 5 minutes slower than driving anyway.
>Including suffering an existential crisis on my way to work.
Hmm maybe that was the problem with the teslas catching on fire
I walk 3/4 of a mile to the nearest bus stop and have to leave an hour earlier because it's still preferable to sitting in traffic.
Presenter: „This is more like a highway!“
Highway: crawls away at walking pace.
A one lane highway, the type that hasn't been built in a hundred years, and appropriately with the speed limits of the time! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit
I suppose that's what regular highways do too when the system is put under any sort of serious load :p
golly it sure would be a shame if one of those cars were to malfunction in the narrow, single-lane tunnel that wouldn't allow the cars behind it to go around, thereby holding up the entire system and leaving passengers trapped in a hot underground tube until maintenance crews could get to it.
Although I liked your comment, I don't think the tunnels would be hot. At least not compared to Vegas' surface.
@@castonyoung7514 wait u til those lithuim batteries catch on fire
I mean... they don't have any other way of getting people out of the cars other than the regular doors, and the tunnel is super narrow so yeah, you are stuck there until the maintenance dudes fix the thing.
And the question is: how will maintenance fix the problem without machinery to do so? The tunnel is VERY narrow
@@williamhuang8309 I'd be amazed if you could get out of the car in that narrow a tunnel
"So, we've got the tunnel - now, when will the trains be ready?"
"Trains. Uhhh... riiiiiight. Uuuuuuuuuuuh."
"We _did_ design trains, right?"
"Weeeeeell... Aaaactually, we've decided to go with Tesla cars. No tracks needed, and we've still got a bunch sitting around. It's perfect!"
>No tracks needed
Except for the ones made out of concrete or asphalt the cars have to drive on.
Those tunnels are a death trap, no way I’d ever ride in this.
The "gamer lights and muffled bohemian rhapsody" moment made me pause the video to make sure I wasn't hallucinating
Even when you forget railway, and look at the sophisticated and efficient road system in Tokyo, that whole loop idea looks more like an April Fools' joke.
For example, Yamate Tunnel, wholly underground, is 18.2 km long, with 2 lanes in each direction (4 in total), and is an actual road with much higher throughput.
Apart from tunnels, there are many elevated roads, often with two (sometimes three) levels above the ground, running for tens of kilometers through the very center of the city with frequent exit/entry points.
and on top of all that, tokyo has an incredible public transport system that's fast, efficient, and cheap.
@@Tommo_ Thanks Captain obvious.
@@dlazo32696 you are very most welcome
And Japan has one of the fastest long distance train that literally levitate.
@@justalostlocal though for that we will have to wait until 2027 when it starts and connects Tokyo and Nagoya at first (285 km) with the speed of 505 km/h.
the *gamer lights* killed me, now I can no longer benefit from the "Vegas Loop"...
Fucking Alienware to Razer traffic!
I don't even hate the lights, honestly. But with that said... yeah, this is fucking stupid from a utilitarian standpoint.
gives my migraine honestly.. i feel like vomitting seeing those lights
the vegas loop is basically a very small tunnel shape fire hazzard death trap with no realistic fire safety solutions.
I love the stigma today that just slapping the word electric/tesla on something now makes it eco friendly, even though most electricity is generated by non renewable sources. Especially now with a march on shutting down nuclear power.
yup, put some stupid on top of dumb and sprinkle some idiot on it.
imagine how "eco-friendly" is nickel, cobalt, aluminum and other metals mining
I love nuclear power
@@Oooze3424 same
Don't forget cyber/hyper
Leave it to Musk to fuck it up. Rather than a clean and efficient metro system we get a PC gamer's RGB light show in a tunnel with safety measures that barely fit within minimum requirements...
but as any good gamer's pc set to mine bitcoins, it looks profitable until you realize you are not the one paying the electric bill.
Besides being possibly the most pathetic urban transport solution ever, the entire thing is a death trap. Google 'tunnel fire' and then 'Tesla fire' in that order and you'll know what I mean. You could not pay me to go on the bloody thing.
They don't
I'm pretty sure Musk is barely involved with the boring company, to be fair.
I have my doubts it actually is within the minimum safety protocols.
honestly calling this an elaborate scheme to sell more cars would be giving Musk too much credit. I think he's just so egotistical he legitimately thinks this is a fantastic idea, or he did at least at one point and its too late for him to go back now (he can't say any of the ideas he came up with before are stupid after all).
Indeed. At most 69 cars are going to ride this tunnel. I don't think that number matters for Tesla or Musk. That's just a vanity project conceived without regard for efficiency of any kind.
@@fplancke3336 That and it was his Boring company who dug the tunnels, so he got the money for that as well.
Elon Musk has the same problem that I had once I became pretty competent at Software Engineering. When you learn how to make cool things, you start thinking of solutions first and then considering the actual problems that it solves later. It's like having an inclination to make a "data-driven crypto-AI NFT generator" and you're like "yeah, that's really cool" and then it just folds when someone asks you "but why?" And if you can sort of kind of justify it by pointing out which problems it solves, then anyone can point out a million simpler and more practical solutions that would solve those problems more effectively.
But I'm a 22 year old programmer and he's a billionaire, so when I make a stupid idea, I get laughed at, but when he does it, he just drops a few million to market it to dumbass Redditors and get worshipped for it.
Elon Musk didn’t have the authority to build the LVCC Loop on his own. He (or the officials at his company) had to create a proposal and sell the idea to the LVCVA. Those who proposed underground and elevated trains had to sell their ideas also.
In the end it came down to TBC’s $50 million loop it another company’s $210 million elevated train. At the last minute the other company said they could do it for $85 million. Whose pocket was the extra $125 million supposed to line?
The LVCC Loop is working, by the way.
As I said when WTYP covered this, he's combined the high construction cost of a subway, the inconvenience and low speed of a bus, and the inefficiency and high running costs of a taxi, to make something that is worse than any of them.
Something about Bohemian Rhapsody faintly playing in the clip, just shows how - idk - 'basic' it is
i hope your not calling BO-RAP basic because i would officially make you my arch nemesis. but I do agree, if BO-RAP is to be played, it must be with the highest volume
@@suna7511 I think its a great song, and I dont think there's many who hate it. But that's kinda my point, yknow? Its the most common favorite song, so when I hear it playing in a public setting, it comes across as "Uuuh, I want music people like, just put on Bo-Rhap."
No thought to it, no taste in music, just put on what everyone likes.
I was picturing Bill Gates dancing on a stage for some reason.
Definitely thought the same thing my eyes rolled when I heard it. Nothing against the song itself
"nothing really matters to me" Elon Musk, 2020
I'm sitting here in my garden in a village in Central Europe
I look up at the sky and roofs of my neighbours' houses, peace and quiet all around me, bees are buzzing and birds are singing
And amidst this beauty I can only think "I refuse to belive America is real"
there are peaceful places like your garden in America just not in dense urban areas
@@joshuaortiz2031 but I‘m pretty sure she has a public transportation connection
@@joshuaortiz2031 You can find plenty of peaceful neighborhoods in urban areas... maybe move out of downtown...
@@Fools_Requiem where I live in Miami those places are like two thousand a month to rent at least. I can't afford that right now.
@@Lucas_Simoni Honestly Capitalistic Dystopia kinda fits South Korea better, US is a good contender though.
Never understood train fanatics. But after seeing Tokyo and comparisons to the rest of the world including Europe. It's hard to not get excided about trains.
I wouldn't consider myself fanatical about trains...but man it gets you places faster than sitting in noisy traffic would if done right.
The "if" is a lot bigger than it realistically ought to be in a world not run by morons.
I swear billionaires see life as an idle clicker game
Click to exploit child labor faster!
@samantha smith in that case is
Click to spread lies about your competitors faster!
Lol. Apparently they are all the same person.
That’s okay. It’s probably what they think about you too.
@@jpadila7 the difference is that most celebrities and billionaires are so out of touch it's almost funny, except it isn't.
The Tesla self driving system is so stupid that they need drivers to carry passengers in a small tunnel😂😂
"full self driving"
Takes eyes off road for 1 minute, car crashes, bursts into flames and burns all occupants to ash
You just know that they would love nothing more than actually have it fully self driving (people are expensive, even the kind of slave labour that being a driver amounts to) but there is just not a snowballs chance in hell that they get this certified with their questionable, way too small tunnels without emergency exits and tesla's current state of autonomous driving - especially in the areas where people board and exit :).
Japan's self-driving systems are way better. Yet, they don't constantly brag about it like Americans. Just look at Honda, who introduced the world's first Level 3 autonomous system, called Honda Sensing Plus. Since it is Honda, you know it will be very reliable. Toyota, who is similarly reliable, also has similar plans in the near future.
they had to have drivers due to local authorities and safety regulations, it requires a lot more testing and engineering for the system to be ran in self driving mode, which is sure to happen over time, in the mean time the system as it is will already be operating
@@coreysuffield They need more testing and engineering for something that’s already been achieved at London Heathrow about a decade ago?
This is honestly a thing I came up with when I was 17 in a competition to solve the car problem in cities... Yeah I lost, turns out this is the same thing a highschool kid came up with in like 2015 and people thought it was dumb back then too. To be fair, I only had 1 hour to think about it.
It's because your name isn't Elon Musk and you don't have millions of dollars to throw at people to make your dumb ideas a reality.
Hmm sounds like Musky boy might have stolen your idea Boring company was founded in December of 2016
Well it is Vegas, one of those cities where the worst ideas come true for the sake of entering the Guinness book.
@@FidelCattto Lmao he can keep em, they aren't worth anything. The best idea I had was about a an evil empire of teddybears fighting dragons in space. Elon can keep the other ones.
Here my take on how we can solve it:
1. Make personal transportation more expensive.
2. Encourage public transportation and improve it.
3. Build a few underground tunnels so that if there happens to be a situation where we have excess cars, the extra cars can be directed through tunnels so that traffic on the ground is 0. Make the tunnels wide and make it safe.
4. Encourage carpooling
4:10 also worth mentioning that a considerable amount of private motor vehicles in Japan are highly efficient Kei Cars that have a maximum power of 64 HP. In 2020, 40% of new cars sold in Japan were Kei Cars. Daihatsu was leading the segment with selling 535k alone.
Meanwhile in the US, the most popular new car is - and has been for a good while - the Ford F-150.
The funniest thing is that mars isn't even that great of an escape. Living on Mars would be the shittiest quality of life imaginable, you are cooped up in a life support pod and if you want to go outside you need to be in a space suit. It literally sucks. Also that isn't a way for humanity to survive, you would literally just end up going extinct. Unless you live in a science fiction fantasy escaping to Mars is a stupid impractical idea. Much better to just stop earth from being destroyed.
If you can make mars liveable, you can also make earth liveable again
Americans believe that wealth equals intelligence. That's why eveything this carnival barker says is lapped up by the fanboys as the "greatest idea ever".
I'd say it does most of the times, but because it's another type of intelligence. Is this smart from a technical viewpoint? Absolutely not. Is this a smart way of ripping people of their money? Definitely. Trick people into thinking something is modern and innovative and money will literally fly your way the Edison way.
Of course. You need to be smart, well educated and hard working to be rich! All the doctors and researchers and engineers and, um, bankers and lottery winners and bitcoin investors and heirs and, and.. oh, look, a flying cow!
@@_annoyed4692 lmfaao
Redditors don’t represent the opinions of the majority of Americans.
Americans would sooner stand up to bat for land lords than the people that can't afford a home because of said land lords.
Best part: Tokyo Train companies are actually *privatized to the point where they own the very land surrounding the tracks.* Pretty compatible with the US Mindset.
Difference is that there, the companies collaborate with each other for the greater goal and each people of those companies are as subservient to their society and state as any other person; no privileges for «gibin mor wurk».
As far as I know they were always Privat companies. There is a lot cooperation between Privat companies and government in Japan, which unfortunatly digresses into collusion more and more, for example Fukushima.
Showing again, what was once good, does not need to stay like that.
@@alexanderriedelsheimer1096 Actually some were government owned company (known as Japan National Railway, abbr. JNR) privatized some decades ago, while some others are private company since established and even now. pretty much same with the US (Amtrack + other private rail)
they are still largely government our municipally owned…
NIMBYism is a disease in the US too that fights against anything "public".
@@maxpowr90 they can't even come up with a good excuse for their NIMBYISM, but they still some how get away with it.
"His utopia isn't Star Trek, it's Blade Runner."
Correction: Blade Runner looks cool and it's world is populated by interesting and cool characters like Rick Deckard and Roy Batty, Elon Musk's Utopia looks kinda shit and is populated by rich Silicon Valley douchebags who lecture you on personal responsibility for your actions while refusing to take any for their own.
this makes me want an elon musk based dystopian sci fi novel.
@@thejuiceking2219 It could probably work as a dark comedy, like Terry Gilliam's Brazil (Brazil is a movie, also don't bother with anything but the director's cut, the original had over an hour and a half removed).
It's _Freejack._
I hope Elon really does think he can escape to Mars. Life on Mars would be brutal and unforgiving and completely dependent on regular deliveries from earth.
It would be cheaper and easier to fix Earth than to make Mars a long-term livable place.
He is never going to Mars and that is a fact. He is stupid but not that stupid.
People like to think the rich want to leave the planet, but no rich person wants to do that. The rich will buy the prettiest places on earth. Musk just wants to go into the history books as the guy whose company sent the first human to Mars. It's about his ego.
@@maythesciencebewithyou You're goddamn right.
@@LadyDoomsinger
Fix? Fix what?
Don’t forget the “president” of spacex what’s her name, let slip “I’d love my clients in Dubai to have meetings in Europe or the u.s. and be home in time for dinner” when talking about point to point starship flight...yet the plebs still think all this will be for them lol
Aviation enthusiasts were convinced that the Concord would lead to all commerical long-distance flights becoming super-sonic. In the end, it was just a way for rich people to travel between the US and Europe quickly.
You'd think we'd learn by now that this shit never trickles down.
I think Shitwell is her name.
You all nailed it. This is for the non pleb exclusive elitist class. “Adam Something” too gave me a revelation that the commercial space travel is for the elitist non plebs if they happen to nuke Earth in a momentary weakness of their gigantic ego being hurt by the opposite side.
I don't think anyone involved said concorde would be cheaper... But it did do what it was supposed to speed wise. Musk says his bs projects are going to be cheaper all the time. though.
@@joinedupjon - Many in the industry were confident that super-sonic was the future of long-distance commercial flight. That the cost would come down eventually and start replacing conventional jet aircraft. Boeing even designed one of their jets so it could be easily converted into a cargo plane when this happened.
Las Vegas is an interesting case! They have a strong taxi driver lobby working around the clock to prevent subways from happening. Failure of public transport like the monorail or the loop is by design
To be fair... Monorails are a stupid idea, too.
@@SeanStrife how are monorails a stupid idea? The system works incredibly well in other ultra dense cities like Bangkok
Public transport systems are generally unnecessary if an automobile infrastructure system is already in place. Everyone owns a car, so no one takes the train, so there is little mass transit, so everyone needs to own a car. Many American cities were built well after the automotive culture was already in place. Las Vegas, for instance, only had a population of 8,400 in 1940.
@@blkgardner haven't cities like Los Angeles proved that overdependence on cars is unsustainable though?
@@yohankapri4285 I wouldn't call it unsustainable. High population density is going to have its issues. But, there is little push for reasonable mass-transit in the USA. Instead, the focus is on boondoggle high-speed systems that never come into fruition, tourist attraction monorails, and the like.
After realizing just how shitty the public transportation infrastructure and city planning is in America I am genuinely considering noping the fuck outta here and heading to Europe just so I can walk/bike/take the bus to 90% of locations I visit every week and don’t have to drive so goddamn much
Do it, Britain/germany/france is many times better, but even a poorer country like hungary where im from still has very good public transport.
I’d also add the Netherlands to the list above. :^)
Netherlands is probably the best you can get (subjective to some degree, of course) but it's pretty decent almost everywhere in Europe. Even the more car-centric cities still have mixed zoning so you're never more than a bike-ride away from basic services
also healthcare lol
Don't go to the UK. Ireland is ok. Even if the EU is not perfect, it's honestly one of the best things Europe has done. We profit of it constantly. Many ppl just seem to forget this amidst all this political bullshit.
How can this tunnel be legal? I can see no ventilation, no fire suppression and no way you can get out of the cars in an emergency. Good thing they use EVs and not ICE cars 🤣
In Germany this would not be possible, not even as a pedestrian tunnel.
good thing the massive lithium batteries never catch fire... uh oh....
@@SharienGaming What the last bit is referring to is using an ICE vehicle in an unventilated tunnel in NORMAL (no emergency) situation: carbon monoxide poisoning. BEVs remove that issue. But as you said, both types are doomed in this specific tunnel in an emergency.
@@dbclass4075 oh absolutely - even pedestrian tunnels of that length would require ventilation and emergency exits
that tunnel is a deathtrap whatever way you look at it
As a car guy, this proposal I could live with. Ban cars from city centres and increase the amount of public transportation, but keep them for the areas at the city limits as well as rural and smaller communities where it is actually beneficial. And maybe inter-city travel. :)
Similar to Barcelona?
@@MarcelinoDeseo Sure!
You're not totally wrong, but cars in city centres aren't really the problem. Low-density cities are. That's what creates the massive need of private motoring and the corresponding highway infrastructure. Like when you have a miniscule "downtown" and then miles and miles of suburban private housing stretching out in every direction. Which unfortunately includes about 90 percent of all American "cities".
BTW, I'm a car guy too. I love cars. I just hate what was done to both American and European cities after WWII.
@@somerandomvertebrate9262 I can see the logic behind that, good point!
probably don’t need to ban anything, but if you build it, they will come
After that talk about trains being awesome at moving huge numbers of people, that shot descending into that stupid multicolor cavern with a couple of cars in it was physically painful.
Well done, sir.
You are wrong about the tesla cars in the tunnel holding only five. Tesla's load capacity is under 400kg so it would hold around two and a half americans.
😂
That implies an average American weighs 160kg, twice as much as an average human in the world.
@@erkinalp according to statistics that's right around the ballpark.
1:00 I died a little on the inside when I realized this was real footage and not some shitty CGI pitch.
Oof. I lived in Tokyo for 10 years. That brought back some serious nostalgia.
Especially the view from the Saitama Railway Museum.
One thing that I find crazy is that Japan has a ‘train culture’. Seriously, go look up the Kyushu Shinkansen ‘BOOM BOOM’ commercials, or any commercials for the e4, e5 or e7 Shinkansen.
Or the Keio Liner, Narita Express, Keisei Skyliner, the Haruka, etc… they have trains on the brain! It was amazing to witness.
And all that in a country that still maintains a big car culture. It's the perfect example that you can have both a love of cars and trains!
@@InLoveWithCities they even still use fax machines.
It's a testament to how technologies can simply coexist and not have to become 'obsolete' for no reason.
@@krunkle5136 People make fun of fax machines, but they are really convenient than scanning each document on scanner and emailing someone. You can directly send the document in a printed condition on the receivers side. Saves tonnes of time.
@@yogeshghadge5748 I am 24 and have no idea how a fax works. I am curious what protocol it uses and what is the "fax address". Does it only work in a closed network or can you fax long distance?
Doesn't Tokyo have some of the highest suicide counts of any city?
that 'bohemian rhapsody' in the background at 1:28 cleary shows that 'nothing really matters' to Elon as long as he gets to advertise the Tesla cars
In Europe: I went from my home in Italy to Vienna (600km) and stayed there 4 days all by mass transit (Trains and city transport), not a single minute spent in a car. I don't know how the richest and most developed country in the world can make the same thing a reality....
I don’t own a car. Had one for a few years until 1982 because mother wanted me to drive her to local places. Absolutely hated it. When mother and car both expired at about the same time I stopped driving. Best thing I ever did. I have never used Uber, not sure how it differs from a normal taxi. Haven’t been in a taxi or mini-cab for probably about thirty years. Can’t remember when somebody last gave me a lift in their car, probably more than ten years ago.
Also, I have just noticed something. The diameter of the Loop tunnels seems to be either 12 feet or 12 feet, 6 inches, depending on source. This is actually more than London Tube tunnels (typically 11 feet 8 inches or 3.56 metres, though the new Northern Line extension has huge tunnels). Glasgow Subway is even smaller.
So yes, why can't we just run a train/hyperpod in them?
Nice rebranding there! Simply buy a few old London Underground Trains like the soon-to-be-retired '72, '73 and '92 train stocks. If '73 is too old for you, buy the '92 or get a new train like the new class 717 train from Siemens.
Eww, trains. Now if it were the Siemens MultiPod Future System 717 RGB-Edition, that'd be amazing ...
Elon: Let make a glorified escalator
Japan: Look at this clown
1:00 I love how they have a huge digital display at the entry just in case you didnt know your location in such a complex transport system.
Your videos about these technobullshit projects will never not be enjoyable. They're absolutely priceless.
I have been saying this for a while and none of my Elon Daddy loving friends seems to understand is ... Elon Musk in not Thomas Wayne trying to fix a broken City but Lex Luthor trying to ensure city stays broken so that he can grab more money.
Nah, he's neither. He's just a modern age Robert Walpole, seizing up any and every opportunity to earn a quick buck!
@@The_Rising_Dragon so did lex luthor.
I love my Tesla, but I trust no billionaires. They're all corrupt.
@@T1Oracle no doubt tesla is great. But it doesn't means he is doing things for the right reasons. He will everything to appeal to current and upcoming generations.
@@0Adnin I don't think that anyone that "admires" Elon would do so because of his morality man, regardless of his motives he is doing commendable things; and i also don't think he's trying to appeal any generation, on the contrary people appeal to his "vision", ideas or whatever.
Americans: "Why are we so fat?"
Also Americans: *Think having to walk 5 meters in the Burger King parking lot is communism*
That's stupid. Americans don't walk in meters. Duh! (LOL!)
BTW, from the airport to the convention center is over 3mi, or about 5km. That would be an interesting walk with all your bags and 50°C outside. Bring a hat and LOTS of water.
Don't talk about meters, to Americans that's communism too.
No the communism aspect comes in when annoying poor people demand that every form of transportation be public transportation, where everyone is reduced to the lowest common denominator and crammed into a tube with a bunch of strangers. And that its almost always commies that pop up and start reeing about how amazing trains are. freakin foamers.
@@HavokBWR and instead everyone is reduced to the other lowest common denominator : huge traffic jams. Cars are truly freedom for all.
@@HavokBWR trains might not be perfect but they're the best we have so far(the positives outweigh the downsides). Sounds familiar?
I was surprised to find out that the Glasgow Subway system uses the same size tunnels.
Doesn't mean anyone in their right mind would want to build a system so small now.
Indeed no one should be able to build such a small system now as it fails to meet modern safety standards.
to be fair the Glasgow subway system is kind of garbage, on average people use it 24 times a year compared to 152 for london. we used to have poggin trams tho, went all the way from Clarkston to bishopbriggs
And in Glasgow's subway's defence, it's the third oldest subway system in the world. And it still works far better than this stupid garbage,despite being about 130 years old, haha.
@@Glenni91N absolutely.
The London and Glasgow systems get away with safety violations and tiny tunnels because of their age.
6:15 “But this is more of a highway underground!!”
I mean yes, that’s the problem.
Thinking a carmaker can solve traffic by making the cars more efficient, is like thinking McDonald's can solve obesity by changing their salad recipe...
Whatever you say nonbinary gamer
Funny you say that, because when maccies introduced all their salad ranges to appear like they gave a shit about obesity the dressings were so loaded with calories that you may as well just get a burger and actually enjoy yourself while you're there
This is the worst analogy I think I’ve ever seen.
@@turntechgodhead9395 his whole personality fits in 2 words and a few emojis lmao
@@alexanderangelkov6338 their
The funniest thing is that the numbers for Las Vegas only add up to 95%.
So 5% of people don’t move at all, I guess
They take their private helicopters
Bikes ,cycles
I'm perfectly willing to believe that 5% of americans are stationary.
that's the image I have of america.
They are the zombies welded to stools playing the slot machines.
Children? Elderly homes?
Err, are these cars currently full self-driving or there's a driver inside each of them? Burning 20-50% of capacity on drivers would be a cherry on top.
They all have a driver, Musk hopes to make them self driving within 5 years...
@@O-plaat no way its actually that retarded
@@snoopiti1 It sure as hell is.
Not to mention the debacle that would ensue once one of them invariably crashed and got stuck sideways in the tunnel.
OMG the inefficiency!! A human has to drive each of these? When one train operator can move hundreds or thousands of people without having to queue up to drop people off? This is absolutely nuts and moronic!!!
I like that they have to speed up the footage of the teslas to make it more exciting because they move so slowly
Agreed with the title: it maked no sense economically. Stupid even to defend it, leave alone to build one.
It's good for Elon Musk's wealth, he's expanding his field, let say.
It's amazing a place as flat as Las Vegas isn't interested in bike infrastructure either
Wow, Elon Musk doesn’t care about people without Tesla’s???? What a surprise
Considering how many bugs and tech issues the Tesla has, I don't think he cares about them either.
@@inurokuwarz he cares about people
People with money and who don't stop and think before they buy
Oh my gods, they did it. They. really. did it. I can't even proceed the level incompetence that lead to people giving the green light for that project. This or it was just bribery.
TBC had the lowest bid by a huge amount, and the quickest construction time.
Now the Las Vegas area has approved an expansion along the strip and downtown with 51 planned stations. We may get to see something closer to Musk's vision.
@@kevinbailey8827 Yeah, but that's still far less effective than subway. And they could have done a cosy, furturistic looking subway for their rich customers if they wanted.
@@bobiboulon I'm excited to see how it turns out. And how users rate using it compared to traditional subways.
@@kevinbailey8827 If I had to make a prediction, I would say that there will be a lot of hype at the begining, a lot of people will want to try it, like some new attraction. And one year later, it will be mostly deserted.
But let's wait and see how things turn out, indeed. Maybe time will prove me wrong.
@@bobiboulon My guess is that the system will be built a section at a time, so the hype will happen over and over. Once enough of it is available to be useful, we’ll see whether passengers use it.
tbh that tunnel being built is a good thing in my eyes. They're bound to notice that it's stupid as fuck and with the tunnels already being there, it should be easy to convert it into a subway
Do you see how small that tunnel Is? It won't be that easy to convert it into a working train system. Both you and Adam are delusional
I love this guy’s sense of humour, it’s genuinely class
Let’s be clear: Musk won’t make it to Mars. Mars is a hellhole that we’ve barely sent a few bots to. If we decided tomorrow that getting to Mars was a #1 cultural priority, we’d probably be a decade away from maybe a manned Mars orbit. Musk will not live to see civilians set foot on Mars.
💯
Perhaps moon first Elon?
Yeah, people don't understand how insignificantly easy it is to fight climate change compared to creating a civilization in another fucking planet.
@@78anurag Nothing of interest really on the moon either. It was fun proving it could be done but was rapidly considered boring.
@@chillcapybaracitrus Quite so ! *Terraforming* ? That's Hollywood stuff. Are they serious ?
My god, I’m not the only one to think that all this energy inefficiency is absolutely bs. Thank you for saying it.
No, it's not BS. But think about the vast mountains of government and private money are spent in keeping the status quo - i.e. cheap gas - rather than taking risks on innovation and better infrastructure. One way or another, we won't have a choice but to ween ourselves off of burning dead plant matter from the Carboniferous period.
"It's not like a subway, it's like a highway underground"
but, people do see how thats worse right?
Adam: makes video speaking facts
tesla fan boys : but it has RGB!
rgb add the speed to 400mph, duh
I want my razer patch for 2000 bucks
@Ceasar The homophobic woman beater Ironically, reddit is very split on musk right now.
@@gelinrefira Wait, what happened?
@@gelinrefira tell us more
Did you see that tweet where the one driver straight up "in an emergency, we have to drive backwards thru the tunnel?"
The Loop looks like an IRL Tesla ad
Imagine if one of those cars breaks down. It’s not even like how in a normal car tunnel where you push it to the side and call a tow truck, the tunnels are only wide enough to fit one single car, and there’s no alternate routings. The entire system would be shut down for atleast 2 hours while the cars behind all have to reverse direction and go back to the station, and then somehow you would have to bring a tow truck in, tow it to the exit, get the cars back to the track, and resume everything. On a subway, you would just route trains via other tracks and even on highways you only shut down a few feet of one lane