0:34/0:42 I really, really love how Mafuyu and Ena sing this line respectively. I interpret this song as about a woman who entered a toxic relationship "of her own accord" (possibly despite being warned), but as the relationship continued, she's come to regret this; maybe she thought her partner was better than they end up being, maybe she believes she has to take responsibility for having entered this relationship (like a sunk-cost fallacy kind of deal), but regardless she feels trapped, and her resentment and bitterness has kept growing. She kind of hates her partner (calls them "scum of the earth", even), but she can't bring herself to end the relationship for one reason or another (which is pretty common for abuse victims, though she also seems to be toxic back to her partner with the whole "Obey me, shut up and follow me" thing). In this cover, Ena and Mafuyu embody different ways of expressing this resentment and bitterness, which is also perfect for their characters, considering both have toxic relationships with their parents, though as abuse victims they're obviously not at all at fault for this. Ena takes on the role of passive-aggressive anger and frustration, even carrying an edge of defensiveness (1:03 "What? What? What on earth do you want?"), like she feels like she's being interrogated, or like she feels people are judging her for ending up in this situation. Mafuyu, meanwhile, carries a milder, more resigned tone to her, a kind of hollow disappointment and self-deprecation, like this is what she deserves for being foolish enough to end up here. Both of these are fitting and reflective of each girl's in-character response to the abuse inflicted on them. Ena is defiant, Mafuyu is submissive; Ena lashes out, Mafuyu internalizes. But here, at 0:34 and 0:42, they kind of carry an undercurrent of each other's tone. Mafuyu sings her lines with a subtle undertone of contempt, like she's a little disgusted by who she's talking to, and Ena's bitterness seems much more self-focused in these lines than others, like she's sarcastically, bitterly berating herself. This is perfect, as contrary to outward appearances Mafuyu and Ena also carry parts of each other's responses in them. Ena may project an angry defiance outward, but she kind of hates herself at the same time, believing she's just not good enough for her father's approval. Mafuyu, meanwhile, might be largely submissive to her mother and emotionally numb, but there's a deeply hidden ball of FURIOUS anger inside her, enough to fucking create N25!KAITO. I don't have a big conclusion, I just think they're neat.
for 1:03 , i was thinking it was a conversation between mafuyu and ena. where ena is knowingly jealous (at least in the beginning of the storyline) of mafuyu that's she rhetorically asking " 'what, what on earth do you want' since you're already talented and everyone has high expectations of you?" OR since ena is known to be more straightforward to mafuyu's feelings, she's asking it in a way for mafuyu to realize what she really wishes for and mafuyu responds in the following line "mind you, this is definitely not what i'm wishing for" because.. well her situation isn't really ideal. that's how i interpreted it the first time but i also enjoyed reading your analysis of the line distribution!
Also, I don't think the "Shut up and obey me" lines are them being more toxic. It's more likely that it's the parents (Or whoever is the toxic person in this relationship) saying it whenever they fight back or finally say something. They hear it very often, that's why they repeat it multiple times.
I feel like this song they represent are towards their parents. Mafuyu towards her Mother who manipulate her. Ena towards her father who never satisfied with her own painting works. They're mad at them and called them ”the scum of the earth.” although they still wanted their approval.
This is my first time listening to this song and i was NOT expecting that switch up at 0:25 😭😭😭 Edit: I now have listened to this song g in multiple occasions 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤭😂💥💥💥💥🙃😅🤪😘😝😔😎😎😞😝😎😘😜😍👩❤️👩🤫🔥🫤🫤🫤🫤😦🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢👺👺👺👻💥💥💥💥💥💥
this is my bop, the HEAVY ASS BEATS MAKE IT FEEL LIKE A RAP SONG AT THE SAME TIME ?? THEN ITS JUST J-POP LAYERED OVER IT. i love this sm 🩷🩷ty for uploading this and translating this
wow new song just after LagTrain!! im happy hehe i feel like this song could be about their inner thoughts. sometimes i feel like ena and mafuyu have their alter-selves, made from their traumas and insecurities. and this song feels like these alters are speaking to them, trying to gain control for bodies and thought. while the first part of the song feel more positive and just as reflection and thinking, i see this drop at 0:24 as switch to their alters - with all toxic treats, all the problematics. and "shut up and obey me" countinues their trying to take control. but i also like the theory about this song as a projection of ena's and mafuyu's parents. girls try to break the abusive circle in "positive", more brightparts of the song, but their brains still go back to producing what their parents told them ("scum of the earth" for ena's art, "shut up and obey me" for mafuyu) something like that was in my mind heh😋
Matta o kaketa chotto kangaeta Bakana onna manma to kakatta Dakara dō shita? Mizukara nozonda to itte n jan Matta o kaketa chotto kangaeta Shōshō chotto kangaeta kara Dakara dō shita? O nozomidōri no matsuro desu! Nande nan de nande nan de nande Nande nano dōiu tsumori Nande nan de nande nan de nande Naxa n da sonna mon ka Do kuzu Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da Kitto sō da chigainai Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da Kitto sō da zettai ni Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da Kitto sō da chigainai Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da Kitto sō da chigainai no Chigainai yo zettai Matta o kaketa chotto tameratta Tashika ni tameratta Nandaka naxa nan da ka naxa Kōiu koto de wa nai Matta o kaketa chotto tameratta Nan da nan da nan na n da anata Dakara dakara Konna koto wa nozondenai kara Nande nan de nande nan de nande Nande nano dōiu tsumori Nande nan de nande na nde Damatte watashi nishitagatte Damatte watashi nishitagatte Damatte watashi nishitagatte Shitagae shitagae shitagatte Kimi ni issai no kyohiken nai yo Damatte shitagatte Damatte watashi nishitagatte Shitagae shitagae shitagatte Onegai onegai onegai onegai Damatte watashi nishitagatte Damatte watashi nishitagatte Shitagae shitagae shitagatte Shitagae shitagae tte itte n no Damatte watashi nishitagatte Damatte watashi nishitagatte Shitagae shitagae shitagatte Onegai onegai onegai onegai Onegai onegai onegai onegai onegai
i see a lot of people talking about how this song is about a girl who is abused and no longer wants to be in that relationship, and like probably? that's probably the intended meaning. i've always interpreted it as someone being in a relationship that Seems abusive to people around them, and the singer doesn't actually want to leave and is mad at the people around them for trying to get them help. what reason would an abuse survivor have to say "shut up and obey me?" it makes more sense if they're saying that to someone they don't want to do something (like call the police or smth)
BRO WHY DOKUZU GOT INTO PROSEKA WHEN I ALREADY STOP PLAYING IT BRO I REALLY LOVE DOKUZU AND 25JI IS THE ONE WHO GOT DOKUZU WHICH IS MY FAV OH MY SHOULD I BACK TO PLAY THIS GAME 😭😭😭
0:34/0:42 I really, really love how Mafuyu and Ena sing this line respectively. I interpret this song as about a woman who entered a toxic relationship "of her own accord" (possibly despite being warned), but as the relationship continued, she's come to regret this; maybe she thought her partner was better than they end up being, maybe she believes she has to take responsibility for having entered this relationship (like a sunk-cost fallacy kind of deal), but regardless she feels trapped, and her resentment and bitterness has kept growing. She kind of hates her partner (calls them "scum of the earth", even), but she can't bring herself to end the relationship for one reason or another (which is pretty common for abuse victims, though she also seems to be toxic back to her partner with the whole "Obey me, shut up and follow me" thing).
In this cover, Ena and Mafuyu embody different ways of expressing this resentment and bitterness, which is also perfect for their characters, considering both have toxic relationships with their parents, though as abuse victims they're obviously not at all at fault for this. Ena takes on the role of passive-aggressive anger and frustration, even carrying an edge of defensiveness (1:03 "What? What? What on earth do you want?"), like she feels like she's being interrogated, or like she feels people are judging her for ending up in this situation. Mafuyu, meanwhile, carries a milder, more resigned tone to her, a kind of hollow disappointment and self-deprecation, like this is what she deserves for being foolish enough to end up here. Both of these are fitting and reflective of each girl's in-character response to the abuse inflicted on them. Ena is defiant, Mafuyu is submissive; Ena lashes out, Mafuyu internalizes.
But here, at 0:34 and 0:42, they kind of carry an undercurrent of each other's tone. Mafuyu sings her lines with a subtle undertone of contempt, like she's a little disgusted by who she's talking to, and Ena's bitterness seems much more self-focused in these lines than others, like she's sarcastically, bitterly berating herself. This is perfect, as contrary to outward appearances Mafuyu and Ena also carry parts of each other's responses in them. Ena may project an angry defiance outward, but she kind of hates herself at the same time, believing she's just not good enough for her father's approval. Mafuyu, meanwhile, might be largely submissive to her mother and emotionally numb, but there's a deeply hidden ball of FURIOUS anger inside her, enough to fucking create N25!KAITO.
I don't have a big conclusion, I just think they're neat.
for 1:03 , i was thinking it was a conversation between mafuyu and ena. where ena is knowingly jealous (at least in the beginning of the storyline) of mafuyu that's she rhetorically asking " 'what, what on earth do you want' since you're already talented and everyone has high expectations of you?" OR since ena is known to be more straightforward to mafuyu's feelings, she's asking it in a way for mafuyu to realize what she really wishes for and mafuyu responds in the following line "mind you, this is definitely not what i'm wishing for" because.. well her situation isn't really ideal. that's how i interpreted it the first time but i also enjoyed reading your analysis of the line distribution!
i love your analysis of these lines! this song fits the pair so well and you really drove home why that is
Also, I don't think the "Shut up and obey me" lines are them being more toxic. It's more likely that it's the parents (Or whoever is the toxic person in this relationship) saying it whenever they fight back or finally say something. They hear it very often, that's why they repeat it multiple times.
WAIT I DID NOT EXPECT THEM TO COVER BOTH LAGTRAIN AND DOKUZU????
IM SO SURPRISED AHHHH
FRRRR
im so glad this song is in pjsk its so good i love it so much and mafuena covering it makes it so much better
me too I love dokuzu sm I got jumpscare when it was added and I started freaking out 💀
@@cherraa_ YEA I HOPE THEY BOTH GET ALTS !!!!! but i see where ur coming from with the emotion thing
@@cherraa_ wdym they put enough emotions, especially when ena sang the damatte watashi ni shitagatte
I feel like this song they represent are towards their parents.
Mafuyu towards her Mother who manipulate her.
Ena towards her father who never satisfied with her own painting works.
They're mad at them and called them ”the scum of the earth.” although they still wanted their approval.
Yeah, exactly what I thought! 🤯
mafuena the realest
1:17 you slayed so fucking hard here ena
This is my first time listening to this song and i was NOT expecting that switch up at 0:25 😭😭😭
Edit: I now have listened to this song g in multiple occasions 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤭😂💥💥💥💥🙃😅🤪😘😝😔😎😎😞😝😎😘😜😍👩❤️👩🤫🔥🫤🫤🫤🫤😦🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢👺👺👺👻💥💥💥💥💥💥
SAMES
just like
☺️☺️☺️🎀🎀🎀💞💞💞😁😁😁 dokuzu. 😡
IKR…
Frr
SAME 😭
this is my bop, the HEAVY ASS BEATS MAKE IT FEEL LIKE A RAP SONG AT THE SAME TIME ?? THEN ITS JUST J-POP LAYERED OVER IT. i love this sm 🩷🩷ty for uploading this and translating this
No problem 🫶🏼 i'm glad you like it! 🤭
if you like this you NEED to listen to more of NAKISO(the producer of the song) songs! there are Eng subtitles for most of the MV actually :)
LOL HI GALA, I AGREE WITH U OMG ITS SO CATCHY!
lag train and dokuzu is something i didn't expect but it slaps lmao
wonderhoy! (yes hi galaxychoke 💀)
the creator of this video didn’t translate this song! that was tackmyn y, whose translation is also in the captions of the official video ^^
No but Miku's tuning is heavenly, I'd buy a solo cover
they sound so good lol. sega def knew what they were doing when giving mafuena dokuzu because mafuena always delivers lol.
mafuena cover for a nakiso song im crying. i love nakiso’s work a lot so this was such a pleasant surprise 🥹
0:25 omggg
mafuena fans how r we feeling
Feeling great
Gduejav7rjdw8wv guzkaaAaaaAaaaaa!!!!!
@@cucumbruh1272are you having a seizure
@@AverageHumanAllelit's mafuena! MAFUENA!! _MAFUENA_ woof woof!
GOOD I STARVED FOR SO LONG
MAFUENA ARE FINALLY BACK AND THEY CAME BACK BETTER THAN EVER THIS COVERS AMAZING OMG
this covers really good tho
wow new song just after LagTrain!! im happy hehe
i feel like this song could be about their inner thoughts. sometimes i feel like ena and mafuyu have their alter-selves, made from their traumas and insecurities. and this song feels like these alters are speaking to them, trying to gain control for bodies and thought. while the first part of the song feel more positive and just as reflection and thinking, i see this drop at 0:24 as switch to their alters - with all toxic treats, all the problematics. and "shut up and obey me" countinues their trying to take control.
but i also like the theory about this song as a projection of ena's and mafuyu's parents. girls try to break the abusive circle in "positive", more brightparts of the song, but their brains still go back to producing what their parents told them ("scum of the earth" for ena's art, "shut up and obey me" for mafuyu)
something like that was in my mind heh😋
I would never thought that this song would get a cover in proseka ngl
New favorite niigo cover mafuena sound so good in this song and Miku actually has good tuning
THEY ATE OMFG!!!!!!!!
this was the best possible n25 duo they could’ve given to dokuzu and i’m SO HAPPY
I think they want us to obey them
LETS GO MAFUENA COVER, FCKING FINALLY
WHY UH, WHY IS THIS MY NEW FAVE NIGHTCORD SONG? IT HITS TOO HARD.
this cover is so good
this scratches my ears SO GOOD
1:40 calm down ena, you didn't have to slay this hard
REAL
mfen it's a very good pick for this omg
MAFUENA COVERS NEVER DISAPPOINTT
THIS SONG IS A BANGER
i love ena voice so much
ENA ATE (as usual!) I’m not the biggest fan of Mafuyu’s voice, but she sounds amazing here!!
definitely an interesting song
LMAO
Matta o kaketa chotto kangaeta
Bakana onna manma to kakatta
Dakara dō shita?
Mizukara nozonda to itte n jan
Matta o kaketa chotto kangaeta
Shōshō chotto kangaeta kara
Dakara dō shita?
O nozomidōri no matsuro desu!
Nande nan de nande nan de nande
Nande nano dōiu tsumori
Nande nan de nande nan de nande
Naxa n da sonna mon ka
Do kuzu
Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da
Kitto sō da chigainai
Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da
Kitto sō da zettai ni
Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da
Kitto sō da chigainai
Maxa sōiu mon ka sō iu mon da
Kitto sō da chigainai no
Chigainai yo zettai
Matta o kaketa chotto tameratta
Tashika ni tameratta
Nandaka naxa nan da ka naxa
Kōiu koto de wa nai
Matta o kaketa chotto tameratta
Nan da nan da nan na n da anata
Dakara dakara
Konna koto wa nozondenai kara
Nande nan de nande nan de nande
Nande nano dōiu tsumori
Nande nan de nande na nde
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Shitagae shitagae shitagatte
Kimi ni issai no kyohiken nai yo
Damatte shitagatte
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Shitagae shitagae shitagatte
Onegai onegai onegai onegai
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Shitagae shitagae shitagatte
Shitagae shitagae tte itte n no
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Damatte watashi nishitagatte
Shitagae shitagae shitagatte
Onegai onegai onegai onegai
Onegai onegai onegai onegai onegai
I love this song, but it's weirdly reminiscent of MKDR/DSCF for some reason
I would like to hear you expand on this, i want to know how it is reminiscent of DSCF
is it bc the verses sound very similar to mkdr
@@greentothesky thanks for letting me know
@@greentothesky Yep, exactly
Me too, sounds like mkdr, but now it sounds more like unpoison to me
i see a lot of people talking about how this song is about a girl who is abused and no longer wants to be in that relationship, and like probably? that's probably the intended meaning. i've always interpreted it as someone being in a relationship that Seems abusive to people around them, and the singer doesn't actually want to leave and is mad at the people around them for trying to get them help. what reason would an abuse survivor have to say "shut up and obey me?" it makes more sense if they're saying that to someone they don't want to do something (like call the police or smth)
Interesting song, kind of reminds me of Tuyu in some parts.
AAAAAAAA WORDE CANT EXPRESS HOW MUCH I WANT I JUST AAAAAAAAA
DAMATTE WATASHI NI SHITAGATTE DAMATTE WATASHI NI SHITAGATTE
Omg DOKUZUUU YESSS
THIS SONG IS SO SCARY FOR NO REASON HELP
they really went off with this cover
the tuning for miku here is so GOOD
BEST MAFUENA COVER ONG
The beat is so nice and their voices sound really good together ☺️☺️💕💞but that aside-.. ok and what's this song is about-....?
0:02
だからどうした?▶️だからとうし?
ENAS VOCALS ARESO GOOD OHYMGOF I LOVEU ENA...
0:25 the beat drop
WAA I LOVE TJIS SO MUCH NANDE? NANDE? NANDE? NANDE?
PEAKKKKKK I LOVE THIS SONG
I LOVE NAKISO SO MYCH BRO I NEVER KNEW THEY COVETED DOKUZO HELLO IM SO HAPPY
THE LOW OF THE LOWEST(genoge in case y dont know) NEXT SEGAAAAAA
REAL
this is my blood and tears
0:25 only mafuyu sings here
Why did they have miku have so many lines?? I love this song but I feel like it really shines when the singer puts strong emotions into the lyrics
FRR THATS WHAT IM SAYINGG BUT HOPEFULLY WE GET A ENA OR MAFUYU ALT COVER SOON 😭😭
NAKISO IN PJSK OMGGG
BRO WHY DOKUZU GOT INTO PROSEKA WHEN I ALREADY STOP PLAYING IT BRO I REALLY LOVE DOKUZU AND 25JI IS THE ONE WHO GOT DOKUZU WHICH IS MY FAV OH MY SHOULD I BACK TO PLAY THIS GAME 😭😭😭
Oh my, what a great song
God I love their voice so much
THIS IS SO HARD FOR ME TO SING BECAUSE THE DAMATTE WATASHI NI SHITAGATTE FEELS LIKE A TONGUE TWISTER
hey i think you made an mistake in description
Yes you was right, thx for telling me 🫶🏼
@@alyyy638 your welcome! ❤️
As much as i absolutely love this song and I love mafuyu and ena covers I wish others would get more duos :') mizuena for example
1:45 ENAA????
Like
0:25 MAFUYU MARRY ME AKSJDNIWSIDN
What a good song bro!
I think Miku singing when those robotic or spider like songs is audible is very cool and she didnt ruined the song you Saki pfp
2 GÜN ÖNCE AYIN KAÇIYDI!?!? 🗣🗣🔥🔥
story of my life
FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS ENA AND MAFUYU BOTH SAY ONEGAI AT THE END INSTEAD OF JUST ENA
omgbaaas OAKAHAH IM ASCENDINGAHAHAAHA AAAA AHRUAK AHRUKAAAAA
One thing i noticed is that master has less notes then expert
QUE TEMAZO WACHO AGUANTE CHUBUT
Literalmente eu, nande, nande,nande💁💁💁
0:25 this part goes way too hard
i love mafuena.
0:34
1:32 mafuyu is 18 just saying
What?
wish this song was good cause they ate this cover
MAFUENAS VOICZ WHEN THEY SAY DOKUZU ON MY’T
at the start, i thought it was dscf but mafuyu replacing kanade
Dokuzu😐
The whole song is only 1:57 long??
this is the full ver
its so short that there's no need to shorten it
IM SP HAPPY YALL DONT KNOW HOW,i didint like the miku tunning tho
That's the opposite for me haha, personally i think the miku tuning here is the best
@@ran.ish_ its not like the tunning is bad,its just not my style
Aaah their cover is not that bad at all😭😭 its quirky to me?? Listening to male covers spoiled me a bit, now im shocked at some point😅
miku lowkeyyy ruined it ngl ena and mafuyu sound amazing tho
why is this actually so bad.
? how so
I think this is a banger 🔥🔥
if the answer is Miku then fair, they sound fantastic otherwise
@@erihtea0719
Miku sound decent at this one actually
1:17