Carol's Subversive World of Gay Women | Phyllis Nagy | TIFF 2017
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Phyllis Nagy reveals the secrets to her screenplay in this behind the scenes look at Carol.
Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara star in Todd Haynes' tender adaptation of Patricia Highsmith's novel The Price of Salt, about a forbidden relationship between a young set designer and an older suburban housewife in early-1950s New York City.
Phyllis Nagy is an award-winning director and screenwriter. She wrote and directed the television movie Mrs. Harris (05), which screened at the Toronto International Film Festival, received several Emmy and Golden Globe nominations, and won a PEN Literary Award for the script as well as a Gracie Allen Award for her direction. Nagy has won New York and Seattle Film Critics Circle awards and also received Academy Award, BAFTA, and WGA screenplay nominations for Carol (15).
Footage courtesy of Entertainment One Films.
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I'll never get over how Cate stands without using her hands
Ngl I didn’t entirely notice until you mentioned it lol
Had not noticed that. The woman is fiiit!
In reality, is there anyone like Carol out there? I like her moves, the way she talks, and her eyes.
It's interesting how they used the actual "weight" of the person, moving into the camera, for dramatic effect...you could feel that tension perfectly. Fantastic script, acting, directing. Have to say, though, that "Desert Hearts" (which stole my heart 1st) also stole the prize in the les-movies as best, first "happy ending". :)
I remember seeing “Desert Hearts” when it was released in 1985. It was such a breath of fresh air, and should never be forgotten. I still have the VHS and DVD, book, and mini poster I picked up at the theater. I had a huge crush on Patricia and Helen. I would rate “Carol” on par with it, and it probably felt the same for a younger generation of lesbians. I was born in the mid ‘60s, so DH will always be special to me. As for now, both Cate and Rooney are impeccable and divine. 🌈
@@MrBuddybones Well hello mid 1960's! Me, too. ;)
I think I crushed Helen more, but that film was pretty great not only in "it's time", but in a classic way. I loved the character, Frances, who was so magically portrayed by the vastly-under-rated (as most in this film were) actress Audra Lindley-- RIP.
@@tracylf5409 agreed. I think I envied and admired Patricia, whereas Helen was a goddess in those ‘50s clothes (and out of them, for that matter). Audra was amazing, as was the woman who played Kay’s friend (name escapes me) and coworker at the casino, Silver. I loved the soundtrack to the film as well, and painstakingly recreated it on cassette to play in my car back then. Lol.
Carol is definitely a top tier Christmas movie.
Yes!!!! It’s like best adult Christmas movie ngl
Right?? The holiday aesthetic is delicious and nostalgic
I find that extremely blasphemous.
@@travisboutilier2220 No one cares... this is a secular film
@@tarttian3079 I do, Christmas is a holiday of purity and innocence, not evil lust.
I'm so in love with this movie, it has become one of my favorites. The acting, the cinematography it is all just wonderful.
Well I'm sickened by this movie, it one of my very least favorites. just the idea of two women being love both disgusts and hurts me. and it talking place in the 1950s, my perfect world, makes it even worse.
Phyllis does not get enough public credit for Carol - after reading the book she adapted it from, her work here is truly incredible. None of these performances could have existed without her smart interpretation of the book to script.
Thank you Phillys for being a part of this masterpiece! You are one of the few who did not ruin nor overpower the original story!
Peace Maker, well put. Good comment.
I love Carol aird she’s perfect and elegant ugh😩
No cuz literally
haha yeah I noticed that the piano playing really wasn’t great but it was endearing all the same
would really love to hear more from Nagy about this film, even a scene-by-scene exploration like this would be greatly welcomed!
I so wish Phyllis Nagy could do a full commentary on "Carol"! That was great. So much of the film were things unsaid, inferred, implied - it would be great to hear how the screenwriter herself interpreted the characters. Oh, if a Criterian version ever gets released...🤞🏻❤
Cate is so good at playing lesbian, that I can't imagine it would be her last that kind of role...
I know with tár she also plays a lesbian and I was just thinking like she STAY kissing girls 😂.
cate knows rooney loves her, so you can feel the tension between them idk if its sexually or just being flirty
ES UNA TENSION COQUETAMENTE SEXUAL .SON FACINANTE AMBAS...
I don’t think Rooney loves Cate I think they are both just good actresses 🤷🏾♀️
She can't, love is between man and woman.
@@travisboutilier2220 blah blah blah…quit yapping
@@tawnyrae4612 No and don't blah me you jerk.
mother of all lesbians
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The only film based on the work of Patricia Highsmith that can bear comparison with the book. Really beautiful.
She did such a great job wit the screen play I’ll say that everyone was robbed
Yes, she wanted to "See" Therese again using The Photography as an excuse. They have nothing in common, Carol's Upper Middle Class, Therese Is Blue Collar, Carol's Clothes are High Fashion, Therese would have shopped at Thrift Stores or Walmart which is cool. Also while Therese plays Billie Holiday, and Carol holds a Book of Schubert, it's the same music that Jenna Coleman plays in Victoria. Co-Incidentally Jenna spent Four Years on The UK Soap Opera as Jasmine Thomas who became a Lesbian Icon whose character falls in love with Debbie Dingle. There are an Older Woman/Younger Woman and now we see it on Soaps. Grace/Esther on The UK Soap Opera Hollyoaks, Olivia/Natalia Guiding Light as well as Doris/Jomanda not to mention Parker/Kristina on General Hospital.
"she wanted to "See" Therese again using The Photography as an excuse. They have nothing in common". What was your point?
In the beginning, they wouldn't have associated with each other but as time goes on, they really enjoy each other's Company. I in no way are saying anything negative, I read The Book and I Love The Movie. It's a Classic.
Thanks for that & I concur. I just wanted to add that sometimes, we fall for someone out of chemistry alone-- which is somewhat what happens here. Of course it's more complicated than that (as life is), but at that moment, your dissimilarities are not a part of it. From experience; I had a very intense relationship with a much younger woman. Though we didn't share the same years, she & I shared many interests which exist outside of a time-line. The breakup had nothing to do with our ages. ;) PS: Paulson/Taylor
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Wow, you sure know your lesbian movie history.
Why does everyone keep saying "gay women" when there's the word "lesbian"? Try to reverse things and say "lesbian men". That would be considered ridiculous. Please keep the word "lesbian" alive, things need particular individual names.
Many people do not like the term lesbian, perhaps because of the sexualisation of it, the negative connotations through the years. Gay is an umbrella term and more comforting, so it's used more frequently. Many lesbians prefer the word gay instead
@@roshn.i I agree, gay is so much more comfortable, lesbian feels uneasy.
gay is an umbrella term
I agree with you and also with the other comments. 'Lesbian' needs to kept alive but Gay sound better in my ears. I am a Bi girl. Its just that, 'I am going gay for her' sounds better than 'I am going lesbian for her'
It's often used as an insult to women who threaten men in any way. I like gay or better q*eer. Yt edit.
Congratulations! Your adaptation is so great a transposition to a cinematic vision
Can someone tell me any other films this amazing women has written? As a writer I'd love to see how to write from a queer perspective in the right ways
Is there a Special Edition of Carol to buy online. I cant' even find the Soundtrack. What's so amazing is that Cate Blanchett's Family is from Texas as is Patricia Highsmith.
Her family isn’t from Texas just her dad…she only really identities as being Australien
who is the one person that disliked this video, we get it you're homophobic NEXT
lol
Shut up. Ppl are allowed to not like things 😒
2nd carol they have to make one 👑❤❤❤
It may not happen. However I would love for them to do another Movie based on a Book. Odd Girl Out by Ann Bannon would be perfect. It's about a College Freshman Laura Landon who falls in love with her Sorority Sister Beth.
It wont happen. This is based off of one book and I don’t think there are by other books that continue this story
No they don't and this one needs to be banned before it poisons the minds of young women.
excellent
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Women can be predatory and Carol is. Why is this so hard to believe or accept? Get to know women without all the furrbelows and frippery and yoy'll meet just about as many as you would on the other side of gender. A lot goes on among women that has nothing to do with men even when they are not homosexual or bisexual, and some of it is lovely and some of it is not. Women are born of women nursed and nurtured by women...or not. And the consequences of all this togetherness can get rotten. Things don't always turn out well between or among women. Carol could just as well have been a man stealing a wife who evidently wanted to be stolen. But she isn't. She is a woman stealing a wife. Neither better nor worse just female. My sympathies are always with the girl who cannot win in an uneven match like this one. It's that winner take all upper class thing that Highsmith knew so well, which is how we got Ripley who knew a thing or two about how to come out on top in their game. When you're at the table better make sure you're not on the menu!
You make no sense. How is carol predatory in any way? Therese wasn’t anyone’s wife?
jeanettesdaughter, you make good points about Highsmith and class conflict, but I think it’s a very hard argument to make that the character of Carol in the film is being portrayed as predatory. (I can’t speak to the novel). As for women being as predatory as men, I don’t think that is either qualitatively or quantitatively true. For instance, the number of male serial killers (to pick the most extreme and obvious example of human predation) have been legion while the number of women who have been serial killers is very limited, and even in those cases (such as Aileen Wuornos) there is often a clear and obvious explanation for the pathology, whereas most of the men seem born to it.
i dont think its a predatory. if you really read the book the price of salt all of these characters were in therese's view of point. this would made a sense that she's attracted to this woman from the very start so theres consciousness there and in what instance carol become predator everything she did with therese like inviting her in a lunch have therese's consent. so dont tell me that this is predatory coz this is not. therese is not minor and at the same living her own life it means she has the autonomy with whatever and however she wanted to live her life.
@@user-kp5he9fh8n Carol is a wealthy, highly educated, well traveled woman who’s had a lot of life experience; she’s been married, she has a child, she’s had female lovers in the past, etc. Therese, on the other hand, is very young (I believe she’s 19 in the novel), her financial resources are limited, she’s never been abroad, she’s only had one short-term relationship (with Richard), etc. Imagine being a 19-year-old girl who is completely smitten, I would even say obsessed, with someone significantly older than you, someone wealthy and influential who plays with your emotions simply because she’s bored during the Christmas season (read the novel). She then uses you and discards you like a piece of trash, and then has the audacity to send her best friend (former lover) to clean up her mess. The fact that Carol supposedly fell in love with Therese later on doesn’t excuse the behavior she previously exhibited during their road trip together. Imagine if Carol was a man, what would you think of that man?
You’re way over simplifying everything. Therese initially pursues Carol. Yes, Carol is older and more experienced and should have waited til her divorce was final before getting involved. But she didn’t set out to play with and discard Therese. Her actions were directly tied to the discovery that the private investigator had followed and recorded them. Should she have talked to Therese herself before leaving her? Yes. But she’s not perfect and was in a panic about everything.
And who else was she going to ask to fly out and drive back with Therese? One of her society friends? Who would want to know what was going on?
And Therese was justifiably heartbroken and then angry. The movie doesn’t endorse what Carol did, but perhaps you could also say that Therese should not have agreed to go away with a still married woman, or asked that woman to take her to bed.
The problem with the word predatory is it implies a negative motive. And the predatory lesbian is a stereotype that goes back years to pulp fiction.
It was reckless of Carol to pursue Therese after she got the gloves back, because her personal life was already complicated, but as screenwriter Nagy said in her comments, why wouldn’t she “come on” to a woman she was attracted to and interested in. She wanted to spend time with her. If that’s predatory then all romantic pursuit is predatory.
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