Richie Reseda & Mannie Thomas III: Breaking the Cycle | The Man Enough Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Featured in CNN’s documentary “The Feminist on Cell Block Y,” Richie Reseda and Mannie Thomas III share their stories of incarceration, transformation, and the work they’re doing to change the way we look at harm and healing.
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RICHIE RESEDA & MANNIE THOMAS III: BREAKING THE CYCLE
Once facing decades-to-life in prison, Richie Reseda and Mannie Thomas III are changing the way men view themselves and the world. As the respective co-founder and co-executive director of Success Stories-a transformational program for people who have caused harm-Richie and Mannie get honest about fear, vulnerability, and violence, as they challenge us to rethink the way we look at harm and healing.
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So moved by listening to these young men and their insights. Learned so much about myself. One of the best episodes so far. Thank you.
Thank you, Robert. So glad you're on this journey with us.
"Blame is responsibility plus shame". Going through something right now and i love this. Watched it three times already
Wow, thank you for sharing. We're so glad you're here and these conversations are resonating with you. Sending you love as you go through your challenges.
When Mannie said one of his greatest fears is that he is not as great as he thinks he is I FELT THAT!!!!!!
I think we all did!
so amazing that mannie was able to say he doesn't feel emotionally comfortable having a specific conversation with Richie, and how Richie explains how he processed that... wow! minute 1:03:00
I'm in love, in heaven, in awe, so moved and touched and deeply thankful to Richie and Mannie and you three. I can't describe how helpful this is.
Thank you, Gretchen. Always appreciate your comments.
"Shame is the enemy of accountability"
That statement right there 🔥🔥
I watched the document earlier today and cried multiple times. Hearing men take responsibility for their actions but also for how to move forward is incredible. I've felt like I was the only man among my friends who could see this. That felt so lonely. Hearing from these men is incredibly validating.
As an aside, I had something I wanted to add about the discussion involving poverty and trauma's role in crime. This is just my own opinion, so feel free to not listen. I feel like we live in a world where people think that if any harm is inevitable, then all harm is inevitable. I think that the reason some people fight against acknowledging that poverty and trauma are key factors leading to harm is that acknowledging that means accepting that the world could be different but we've all either chosen or accepted the world where harm is inevitable.
That's all, keep up the good work to everyone involved. :)
Thank you for your feedback.
This is one of the least viewed episodes, but, my god, everyone needs to hear this. That integrity part? Whoo. That hit hard.
We agree. They're so amazing.
Incredible! Such eloquence. Such a joy to hear a conversation that reframes your whole mindset. Watched Feminist on Cell Block Y after this. Highly recommend!
Thank you! Glad you checked out the doc too. Their story is very inspiring.
I've never said this but please have these two on again 🙏🏽 such a great episode
This whole podcast and conversation was incredibly enlightening! Thank you Mannie Thomas III & Richie Reseda! 🙌 Note to Mannie: Please start your podcast! I would listen! 😊
Thank you! We're doing everything we can to support Mannie as he kicks his off.
Mannie mentions integrity and compartmentalising, which is something Scott Peck writes about in his book 'further along the road less travelled', which is something that REALLY stood out to me when reading that book! Such an amazing conversation so far!
Thank you for mentioning this book. Great reference.
This just might be my favorite épisode with the one with Alok. I still can't quite understand how much and 80 minutes conversation can be this complete. Definetly sending to my tribe. Sending love to you all.
By a fellow quebecer
We're so glad you responded to it and thank you for sharing! Grateful for you being here.
Holy shit this ep is revolutionary more this
Yeah, this one really blew us away too. We have another amazing one with a member of the Success Stories team coming up in November.
These two are going places and they’re going to be great! They’re an example for the community and great leaders.
We agree! Such dynamic and powerful voices in this space.
Such a beautiful episode. I didn't want it to end. I loved these two so much. This was up there with Alok's episode. Such emotionally intelligent men. Much success to their mission.
Jamey I teared up big time when you said two things. About how you didnt think you should speak because you didn't want there to be too many black men's voices in the room, and also what you said at the end when you were debriefing. About how they have to "be" someone in order to be noticed and accepted. For 5-7 years I have followed Damien Echols who was on death row for 18 years, I follow him on Patreon, and it really made me think about my motives in what I expect of him as far as performance goes. And could he just be himself and be enough. I think he can but I do expect some sort of teaching. I see how much trauma he suffered, and perhaps surviving that was what drew me to him.
I look forward to watching The Feminist on Cellblock Y and I will follow these two on instagram.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Glad it resonated so deeply with you.
this is brilliant and should be watched everywhere by everybody
Thank you! We agree.
Liz’s smile is just as amazing as she is
Danmmm this woman!
This millennium is taking back what was stolen from their forefathers.
Liz is truly incredible, isn't she? Here's to moving this millennium in that direction, for sure.
i think this is one of the best podcast episodes i have seen in my entire life
Wonderful to hear that! Glad you're here with us.
Welcome back guys! Such a joy to listen to these conversations. They're really inspiring. I'm from Ghana by the way.
Thank you, Samuel. Welcome back and happy new year to you too! So glad we're reaching you in Ghana.
thank you for these conversations.. this podcast and seeing that im not alone, and that there are people out there doing the work and healing is so powerful and gives me so much hope.. this podcast has made me a more open and loving person, to myself ad hopefully to others I meet in the future, so thank you again to everyone who makes this show possible, and special thanks to todays guests mannie and richie, the conversation was absolutely amazing and made me feel seen and reminded me of some truths...🙏
Thank you so much. Reading that it's affecting you this way is exactly why we do this work and make this show.
I was blown away by this discussion and so impressed. Thank you so much for your podcast. I feel that this episode resonates with the experiences of children in the foster care system who are wildly over represented in the prison system here in Australia.
Did I really just get to witness this greatness for free? So. Much. Wisdom. In. One. Video.
Truly so much to witness in this episode! We're grateful to be able to have these conversations, and that you are here with us to enjoy and explore. Can't wait for your thoughts on the other episodes.
SO many ACEs (adverse childhood experiences) in this conversation. Looking forward to sharing this video with my colleagues. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing. We appreciate it.
Wow. This was one of these episodes where I tuned in and couldn't take a break until I finished it. The way you discussed all these topics was on another level, and I must have stopped like 50 times because I wanted to write down what you said, but then ultimately decided to just focus on listening and taking it all in. Will definitely re-listen and write down the whole script 😂 Also wanted to say that I thought this conversation was so harmonic. No-one was talking over another, and whenever someone picked up where the other left off, they brought up another important point. I can't say how important it is that we have a podcast where we talk about all the things mentioned, where we stay critical about what's going on in the world around us, and learn how to help one another. Thanks for your work!
yes yes yes yes ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much, Lisa. They took us to school!
Mannie, I'm waiting for your podcast!! This episode is soooo good!
Wow. Wow.Wow !
New favourite episode! Might come back and listen to it again, it's that good.
Thank you! Please do.
About to listen for the 4th time this week. Nothing else to say other thank you to ME for introducing me (us!) to these bright lights. They said everything else so poetically. ❤
Wow, great to hear that Ron. We're so happy to help them reach a wider audience.
@@WeAreManEnough Oh yeah. Def followed on Insta thanks to the ME IG page!
Wow, this conversation blew my mind. Loved it.Very, very deep. Have learn't so much and still am from Manni and Richie🙏💖. Thank you. Liz, Jamey and Justin you are great listeners, feel and hear people. Thank you💖. Always excited for the next conversation. Have a great, beautiful week
So touched to hear that it affected you that way. Have a beautiful week as well.
Amazing episode, fam. More men need to see these!
We agree! Please spread the word.
I'm so happy that I stayed all the way through and didn't miss out on "subscribe us".
This is one of my favourite episodes
It really is an incredible one. Thank you for being here.
Yooooll. Jamie man them pipes 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽❤️😂😂😂😂😂. Love you guys 🙏🏽
One of the finest conversations I have ever absorbed ❤️
I’m so glad I found your channel! As a women I’ve been saying this for a long ass time but no man could accept it from my mouth, I’m happy to see fellow men are helping a dysfunctional generation and seeing the issues, and a relief to see there are still men that are close to their feelings. Thank you!
Thank you! We're so glad you found us too.
Everybody needs to see this!!
We agree!
Jamey sings?!!! The run at the very beginning of this was official!
Update: I went down a rabbit hole and found out that Jamey Heath was named after his uncles who were a classic rock duo from the 60s, Seals and Crofts. His uncle, James Seals R.I.P. 💐 🕊️, used to let him play bass on stage when he was only 9 years old. Now , I have to binge stream Seals & Crofts albums….I’ve already discovered they wrote the classic song, “Summer Breeze,” and that Busta Rhymes’ classic Hip Hop song, “Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See” samples their song, “Sweet Green Fields.”
…that bluesy run in the beginning of this episode has a history I imagine we wish we knew.
Yes, Jamey is a Grammy-winning composer and musician! So glad you're here with us and that his little diddy led you down a musical rabbit hole.
when Justin talks about repair
This is such a dope conversation!!!
"Arrogance serves no one. Humility serves all."
"To walk into my own rocky shoals, is to trace, and unlace, the soles of another."
"Cry not, woe is me. Ask, why is he? Why is she? Pain, collectively, is a cry for understanding, towards healing."
"For those who (seemingly) harm me, I assuage my judgement. For I have harmed myself and others -- unintentionally, and intentionally. Search your sufferings, and find liberation."
"Within yourself, leave no stone unturned. Having done so, you will not stone another."
"As within, so without: self-care = other-care; self-understanding = other-understandng; self-growth = outer-growth; self-harmony = outer-harmony. Divine & boundless is the journey of the self. In deed, and indeed, self-care is a gift, unwrapped & boundless."
"Our planet, our society, does not need more takers. We desperately need more caretakers. Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are the caretakers for they will create Heaven on Earth."
"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to see your self and part, in the sea of humanity."
"When you see someone as yourself, you’ll know how to be... with them, as them, for them."
~ Paul Jung
Omg one of the most insightful episodes 🤍completely loved it! Thank you .keep the hard work💪
So glad you responded to it!
An awesome one, i salute these men for their authenticity, vulnerability and courage- the world needs more people like you. I learned a lot and thank you manenough for the sould and mind food you're giving. Hey Justin i suscribed you, Liz and Jamey 😀
Another amazing episode! Thank you so much for the great conversation!
Thank you! So glad you're here.
Thank you very much.
Thank you!
Inspiring. Insightful. Two beautiful human beings who had the opportunity to heal and change, and now help others do the same. I learned so much. And feel so much love. Thank for creating this podcast episode and inviting these two on. Watched the documentary. Wow. Just wow! ❤
I’m in the minute ten of these podcast and wow, it’s amazing!!! Like how free are everyone talking. About serious things…
Wonderful, thank you. Let us know what you think when you finish.
Inspiring, one of the best episodes yet.
One of the best episodes so far ! But honestly I say that every time 😭 THANK YOU
We agree! Hah, glad you are enjoying the show.
Literally always sharing your podcasts to friends and family, admire your wisdom! Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you for sharing!
What a inspiring, interesting, phenomenal conversation. I don't even know where to begin. True authenticity and integrity, depth and clarity in defining the issues, the root causes and how to resolve them. BAM!! ✨✨✨ these two guys are so easy to listen to. Wow. I will definitely be looking for more from Mannie T III and Richie R.
Thank you. They are truly incredible. Richie has his own podcast and Success Stories Program sometimes puts out beautiful content.
Me Enough!!!! What a transformative conversation. I love it ❤. Where can we connect with both these guys?
Thanks for joining the conversation! You can find their socials in the description and here: Prison Feminism TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@prisonfeminism
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Richie Reseda TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@richiereseda
Richie Reseda Instagram: instagram.com/richiereseda/
Richie Reseda Twitter: twitter.com/RichieReseda
Richie Reseda Facebook: facebook.com/richie.reseda/
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JUSTIN IF U SEE THIS I LOVE U AND THIS PODCAST
Wow.
All of it.
Agreed! What a combo, so grateful to have had them with us. Thank you for being here and listening in!
This was really great!!
These videos have really good cc on them compared to a lot of videos on youtube generated cc. For sure helpful
Happy to hear that!
I love this…
What human beings need is no longer the point because we are not striving to simply survive anymore. We are run by wants and false needs. If we were worked to simply survive we wouldn't have human contact outside of our family, because we would all be farming and making things we need to survive.
I wish most men would pay attention to things like this but they are so far deep into it I don't know if they would ever put on their radar
One day and one step at a time! Thank you for joining us in this conversation.
I think this has been very eye opening. I just got a lot of nuggets here im trying to replay the really good bits to try and absorb as much of it as i can. if i may questoon this theory, i think it's interesting that you guys dont think incarceration has any positive effect on changing someones life for the better I mean you guys found the help you needed eventually Richie said he didn't think about the people he hurt until 2 years but maybe if you had't done the time you would have never thought about them period? isnt that a possibility? like what happened to everything happens for a reason? what is the suggestion for accountability then? and aren't there situations which shame does work? as much as i hate even asking that question because im a firm believer of what richie said "shame is the enemy of accountabilty" i cant help but what wonder what IS the way to make someone accountable? like good male/female role model groups? mandatory therapy? without the time? for me i hate being ashamed but sometimes i can't find the motivation to do better regardless and im not even doing anything like robing banks or murdering people so what's the solution? do i just have to hate my life so much that i want to change it myself? if i was breaking laws or hurting people because i was looking for respect and i never get to a place of accountability on my own because i dont hate my life i just accept it bc its all i know and i dont believe theres a better way or another option for me bc i dont want to lose all the power, money or respect than whos gonna come make me? shoudl i just be left alone to ruin my life and eventually end up dead by the the very system i live by?
the part when richie gave an ex of someone in the system who wants to apologize while still in the prison, it can seem like theyre just doing it for brownie points, so doesn't that make the system of not allowing the one who did the harm to reach out a good thing?
p.s where can i get one of those shirts Mannie has on? :)
Thanks for your insights and questions Michelle! We love that you're looking at what is possible. From these questions, there is opportunity. If you haven't checked out Success Stories already here: www.successstoriesprogram.org/ourwork, they are implementing a framework outside of incarceration. You can find Mannie's shirt in their shop on their website here: www.successstoriesprogram.org/shop. Thanks for joining the conversation.
@@WeAreManEnough thank you for those links i just watched a youtube clip on the success website and loved how raw and open they were, love the work theyre doing, hope to see more of it in other prisons and in the near future hopefully all prisons.
These Brothas came to TEACH 👨🏿🎓
They really did. And we came to learn.
@@WeAreManEnough I Pray to be Man Enough to embody their capacity for Wisdom, Compassion, Love, and Strength 🤲🏼
@@OrtegaOY You are enough as you are! The fact that you strive to be more shows that you are and will continue to become more so. Thank you for being here.
9:00 The problem I and many men (and also women) have with modern feminism is that it seems as if feminism advocates for women to have the perceived advantages of men, without the drawbacks that comes along with being a man. For example, we never hear about it being unfair that men are forced into compulsory military service and women aren't. We never hear about feminists advocating for women to be working side by side with men who do dangerous and dirty jobs (plumbing, oil rigging, sanitation working, mining, etc) that makes our lives comfortable.
The bigger point might be that NO ONE wants those jobs. Most women wouldn't be hired for those jobs even if they tried to get them. There's an argument to be made that the disparity between the genders of people holding those jobs is a result of the patriarchy as well - men are disproportionately expected to go out an earn (i.e Provide) and women are expected to stay home, focus on domestic duties, etc. If educating, caring for children, the elderly, cooking, cleaning and those types of roles were valued as much as the "dangerous and dirty jobs" you mention in society, perhaps there would be more gender equality in professional life. The type of feminism we believe in advocates for equality amongst all humans, in professional and personal life.
@@WeAreManEnough women do not work those dirty, dangerous jobs because they don't want to. I think feminism has taught women that if a job is dominated by men, then it's because those men are trying to keep them out. That seems to be a very reductive outlook. Studies have shown that boys tend to learn better through tactile learning (working with their hands) and thus tend to gravitate towards trades and STEM jobs later in adulthood. I'm a male that works as a nurse, nursing has been ranked as the most trusted profession for 20 years (9 out of 10 are women) and teachers are right behind them (woman dominated field). The most untrusted professions are "male dominated" (lobbyists, lawyers, and politicians). Have you ever thought that maybe men and women organically choose their jobs based on what they are interested in and not because "the patriarchy" tells them to do it?
@@justicewilson7929 Thanks for your additional thoughts on this. We don't tend to look at things in such a binary fashion and believe that a lot of those choices are made precisely because of societal conditioning. We also don't have to agree - our whole reason for being is to create a safe space for us to have these open, productive conversations where we can consider these questions together. Appreciate you being here.
9:33 The vast majority of men aren't in power. The average man makes around 50k a year, well over 90% of job injuries and fatalities are men, men serve longer prison sentences on average than women who commit the same crime, men are forced into compulsory military service, men make up the vast majority of the homeless population but you never hear of shelters who caters to the needs of these men. I think many feminists are guilty of focusing solely on the very small percentage of men who are "in positions of power" and then proceed to make blanket statements such as "male privilege. The reason why feminists get such backlash, is because the vast majority does not advocate for men in tangible ways and fails to acknowledge that women in society do have privilege in certain aspects of life
Really strong points, thank you. We're trying to change that.
I can translate this in 3 different languages to use as subtitles if you're interested. For real
This is a stimulating conversation; much with which I concur (love the comment about integrity for instance), as well as much with which I diverge (I sympathise and agree with much of the abolitionist worldview but don't wholly subscribe + also pre-colonialism, barbarism also existed in communities on a systemic level. Human sacrifice, for example). The comment that 'science doesn't recognise evil...' is naïve. It also denies agency. (Agency is a fluid concept, I realise.) When the presenter is talking about sociopaths, surely she can't make a blanket claim that those who act out on it are all 'victims'. Science has its role but ethics, religion etc also have their place. The two aren't supposed to replace each other but rather complement. The idea that there are no 'bad people' just bad systems, is to ignore the human condition. We're all capable of doing bad things (which is also why accountability and justice needs to be balanced by mercy, since we all need it at some point). Systemic evil is also a fruit - or accumulation of - personal evil or sin as we 'religious' folk might describe it. This is why we need different perspectives and disciplines when having these discussions otherwise they become impoverished.
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I’ve looked up the dictionary definition of patriarchy. You keep using the word, I don’t think it means what you think it means - ‘a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is reckoned through the male line.’ Is this structure the cause of male violence and crime? Does a patriarchal society ‘naturally’ lead to the disenfranchised young men we see in your documentary? Could it be argued that the absence of positive patriarchy is a contributing factor? Have you read The Spirit Level : Why More Equal Societies Always Do Better’?
Racism is predominantly negative in the way it judges a race of people in a negative light. But is there positive racism? The Japanese are good at maths? Canadians are really friendly? The English are so polite? The Germans are really serious. The Scots are stoic. The Italians are passionate. The French are artistic. The Greeks are philosophical.
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