OPENING CEREMONY OF THE VATICAN COUNCIL II

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  • @liturgiarzymska
    @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +32

    💠 TABLE OF CONTENTS:
    00:01 Bishops in pontifical vestments (mitre, cope) during the procession in the rooms of the Apostolic Palace
    01:40 The Pope on his way to the Pauline Chapel for adoration of the Blessed Sacrament
    02:00 The procession passes through the Scala Regia (Royal Stairs)
    02:34 Procession in St. Peter's Square
    05:44 The first bishops take their places in the council benches
    06:54 The Pope is heading to the Basilica after prayer
    07:41 Singing "Magnificat"
    10:50 The Pope descends the Scala Regia (Royal Stairs)
    11:48 The Pope appears in St. Peter's Square carried in the sedia gestatoria under a canopy flanked by a flabella
    15:56 The Pope's entry into the St. Peter's Basilica
    17:34 Silent prayer of the Pope
    18:19 The Pope intones "Veni, Creator Spiritus"
    18:42 The Pope is heading to the throne in front of the Great Altar above the Confession of St. Peter
    19:46 Prayers to the Holy Spirit, the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Apostles
    20:39 The Pope is heading to the temporary altar where the Holy Mass coram Summo Pontifice will be celebrated
    21:24 Prayers at the steps of the altar with the participation of the Pope
    21:53 The Pope returns to the throne
    22:46 Incensing the Pope
    23:02 Singing "Kyrie" and "Gloria"
    23:42 Blessing of incense before the Gospel and proclamation of the Gospel
    24:32 Singing "Credo"
    24:45 Offertory (incense of the Pope)
    24:57 Roman Canon (Pope kneels at the faldistorium)
    26:06 "Pater Noster"
    26:18 Blessing given by the Pope
    27:08 End of Mass and preparation for the proper opening ceremonies of the council
    27:22 Enthronement of the Book of the Gospel (conciliar tradition) on the gilded platform used during the first Vatican Council
    28:08 The Pope wears his own pontifical robes (including subcinctorium, fanon and pallium)
    28:59 Obedience of Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church
    32:56 The Pope kneels at the faldistorium in the presence of the Consistory Advocates who are the promoters of the Council and makes the solemn profession of Faith
    34:53 Making the solemn profession of Faith by the Secretary of the Council (Pericle Felici) on behalf of all the Council Fathers
    35:32 Silent prayer while kneeling (including the Pope)
    36:02 Singing the Litany of All Saints
    37:42 Orations after the Litany (ATTENTION!: The filmmaker has given excerpts from the previously celebrated Mass, when the Pope recited the Gradual and Alleluia)
    38:31 Singing of the Gospel in Latin and Greek (ATTENTION: The filmmaker gave the excerpts from the ceremony before the Gospel from the previously celebrated Mass)
    40:04 The Pope's inaugural speech "Gaudet Mater Ecclesia"
    44:39 Blessing at the end of the ceremony
    45:58 The Pope is walking from the altar to the sedia gestatoria
    46:38 The Pope sits on the sedia gestatoria
    46:52 The Pope leaves the Basilica carried in the sedia gestatoria
    ✅ These are unique and so far the only such extensive and at the same time of such good quality (resolution, color) fragments of recordings from the opening ceremony of the Second Vatican Council captured by cameras of the Italian LUCE institute.
    ➡ This is a selection of fragments from the documentary "La Grande Ora" about the convening and opening of the Second Vatican Council produced by the LUCE institute. We have arranged the selected fragments in the correct order and described them appropriately. The film is available in the archives of this institute. Our study is educational in nature.
    ‼ ATTENTION! In some fragments, the producer placed cutaways from other parts of the ceremony, corresponding in some way to the commentary and relevant events. At appropriate moments we clearly point out that the image is not in accordance with the proper rite!

    • @luzlizarraga9655
      @luzlizarraga9655 9 месяцев назад +2

      Qué GRANDE CEREMONIA ❤🙏🙏🙏💟💓💛

    • @pedrofarias5513
      @pedrofarias5513 9 месяцев назад

      Curas PEDOFILOS

    • @dawidjozwiak9502
      @dawidjozwiak9502 8 месяцев назад +1

      Serdeczne dzięki za ten materiał. Coś fascynującego

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  8 месяцев назад

      @@dawidjozwiak9502 PAX+

    • @niallgerardoconnellsnr1686
      @niallgerardoconnellsnr1686 7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing. Lovely memories. Kind regards Niall O'Connell Dundalk Irelande 🙏🌹.

  • @oskarkarcz6842
    @oskarkarcz6842 9 месяцев назад +85

    Sobór, który mógł tak bardzo umocnić Kościół, a doprowadził do straszliwego jego osłabienia. Nie twierdzę, że bez soboru nie byłoby kryzysu, ale Kościół, który pozostałby przy swoim tradycyjnym, precyzyjnym i niezmiennym nauczaniu nie zapadałby się dosłownie pod własnym ciężarem i nie szukał nowinek w postaci ideologii i prądów tego świata. Stałby się za to instytucją, do której przynależność byłaby w 100% świadomym wyborem człowieka, że chce trwać przy nauce Chrystusa. Kościół Katolicki byłby - może nieliczną - ale mocną siłą, gdyż uniknąłby tylu wewnętrznych rozdarć i podziałów, a nauka głoszona przez papieża nie budziłaby zmieszania i zgorszenia wśród wiernych.
    Zwołanie soboru było w tamtym czasie potrzebne, ale bardzo niebezpieczne. Piusowi XII proponowano jego zwołanie, ale odmówił, gdyż stwierdził, że kościelni liberałowie mogliby sobie za dużo ugrać. Niestety, to stwierdzenie okazało się trafne i liberałowie na soborze triumfowali. Niby w dokumentach nie ma stwierdzeń bezpośrednio błędnych, ale jest za to wiele dwuznacznych, podatnych na - nieraz nawet sprzeczne - interpretacje.
    Gdyby tylko pozostawiono pierwotne schematy dokumentów...

    • @MarquesDeTamandare1865
      @MarquesDeTamandare1865 9 месяцев назад +6

      Sede Vacante

    • @joaorafaelaguiardeoliveira5719
      @joaorafaelaguiardeoliveira5719 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@MarquesDeTamandare1865ele está certo.

    • @NICOLAS-2209
      @NICOLAS-2209 8 месяцев назад

      Ele esta equivocado, por falta de conhecimento da causa do Concílio.​@@joaorafaelaguiardeoliveira5719

    • @NICOLAS-2209
      @NICOLAS-2209 8 месяцев назад +1

      Não interpretações ambíguas colega, você que não conhece os documentos da Igreja católica.

    • @MarquesDeTamandare1865
      @MarquesDeTamandare1865 8 месяцев назад

      @@NICOLAS-2209 kkk

  • @arturs1122
    @arturs1122 8 месяцев назад +7

    To największa pomyłka, której brzemię nosimy do dziś.

  • @adriansaavedra7923
    @adriansaavedra7923 8 месяцев назад +12

    Many people in this comment section have forgotten that even in dark times, the promise of Christ that his Church will prevail still stands. Thank you for posting this beautiful video of this Holy Council, which was so taken advantage of in its aftermath.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  8 месяцев назад

      PAX+

    • @deisycorzovalero3497
      @deisycorzovalero3497 8 месяцев назад

      Yo no sé que le ve de bueno, el humo de satanás a entrado por alguna fisura, el mismo Pablo Vl lo dijo y todo a empeorado desde entonces, una vez escuché decir a alguien no son palabras mías ( maldito concilio) y tenía razón.

  • @davidstankiewicz2049
    @davidstankiewicz2049 9 месяцев назад +32

    Best quality I've seen so far of such a historical event.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +3

      The TV archives have more of this....

  • @JadwigaKociszewo
    @JadwigaKociszewo 9 месяцев назад +36

    Wtedy wszystko było jeszcze piękne z przesłaniem ad maiorem Dei gloriam. Teraz prawie wszędzie "plastikowe" ornaty. Aż mnie ciarki przeszły kiedy wszyscy zaczęli śpiewać "Veni, Creator Spiritus". Piękne nagranie. Pozdrawiam!

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +8

      Niestety, wszędobylski kicz razi nie tylko w oczy.

    • @mamamia9798
      @mamamia9798 9 месяцев назад +9

      Niech będzie pochwalony Jezus Chrystus✝

  • @seamusweber8298
    @seamusweber8298 9 месяцев назад +29

    Beautiful film. It shows the reverence and splendour of our church. You cannot but recognise that this council ushered in the utter chaos that the church has been going through since Vatican 2 sadly. Novus Ordo has been a disaster, for example. Thanks for providing this film. It is of a time long since passed, unfortunately.

    • @ws6488
      @ws6488 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ich denke mal wenn man das treiben der Kirche heute so sieht, hält die Katastrophe dieser Kirche noch an.

    • @helo4366
      @helo4366 8 месяцев назад +1

      i agree!

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 9 месяцев назад +26

    The tall baroque mitres are splendid.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +2

      Baroque or Gothic: if they are made according to art and with noble materials they are all beautiful. Diversity and here is an advantage.

  • @jbsarmiento9703
    @jbsarmiento9703 9 месяцев назад +23

    Thank you so much for uploading. This video is more than gold's worth.

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet 9 месяцев назад +17

    When there was true reverence for the omnipotent.

  • @s.fonseca9994
    @s.fonseca9994 9 месяцев назад +42

    I feel a mix of admiration and sadness watching this video. I feel admiration at seeing how magnificent the Catholic Church was, and how it represented so well the majesty and holiness of Jesus Christ and his Gospel. And I feel sadness to know that this event, started with so much pomp, marked the beginning of the self-demolition of the Church and opened the doors of the Church to Satan, to worldliness and to the flesh.
    Today we are walking on rubble, and we still don't see the bottom of the well.

    • @jarry25
      @jarry25 8 месяцев назад +1

      The Church to Satan is in your mind... the Church is the people, the people, are the world Churches all together at once. If you admire marble and worldliness clothing mora than the significant other ones, you are missinterpreating the God word... you are vain. You are unworthy of what you so call, worthy. You are worldly.

    • @moraissilva3940
      @moraissilva3940 8 месяцев назад +1

      Cristo nunca usou essas roupas. Issso é herança de um império Romano que matou os Cristãos.

    • @ivanvladic3293
      @ivanvladic3293 8 месяцев назад +2

      Never in the history of the Church have there been more bishops at a any council. Why do you think the Holy Spirit made a mistake? If we do not believe that Christ leads the Church by the Holy Spirit and the successors of the apostles, why do we call ourselves Catholics at all.

    • @NICOLAS-2209
      @NICOLAS-2209 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@moraissilva3940 você demonstra desconhecimento histórico, sabe de nda. Nunca estudou história na sua vida, e deduz as coisas há pressupor do passado, que você além de não ter vivido, nunca estudou a fundo sobre ele, se já, me cite suas fontes, da mesma forma que você pode dizer isso, posso dizer que a terra é plana.

    • @NICOLAS-2209
      @NICOLAS-2209 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@jarry25há Igreja é muita coisa, más é isso que você falou também. Precisa se aprofundar no tema, Igreja.

  • @lisakurtz4655
    @lisakurtz4655 8 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful ceremony. The quality of the film is excellent. Thank you for sharing.

  • @GoatHoovesInSpats
    @GoatHoovesInSpats 9 месяцев назад +63

    Personally, I think I like the procession and the pomp and seeing the Pope and Bishops more than I like the aftermath of the Council and what I see as liturgical and aesthetic/traditional decline. Bring back the Noble Guard. Bring back the tiara and the sedia gestatoria. Restore the Traditional Latin Mass as Benedict XVI did. We need a Pope to celebrate the first Papal High Mass in fifty or so years already. We're overdo for a papal coronation. Most people alive have never seen one in their lifetime.

    • @luzlizarraga9655
      @luzlizarraga9655 9 месяцев назад +1

      GLORIA del Olivare ..GRANDE SU SS BENEDICTO XVI ORA PRO NOBIS

    • @francescop.c.3298
      @francescop.c.3298 9 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks, but no

    • @wandergregorio9663
      @wandergregorio9663 9 месяцев назад

      @@francescop.c.3298 não o que eu Nao intendi
      esse ( obrigado mas não )
      o que?

    • @francescop.c.3298
      @francescop.c.3298 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@wandergregorio9663 What I meant to say is that those rituals and symbols (the tiara, the sedia gestatoria, ecc.), although fascinating, are anachronistic and not necessary. The pope is the vicar of Christ, he is NOT Christ himself. To this day we don't need another Pope King, we need an humble pastor.

    • @King-uj1lh
      @King-uj1lh 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@francescop.c.3298he is Gods lieutenant on earth. It’s not humble necessarily to make him dress as any other man. People then don’t take the reality of the office seriously.

  • @TheGrenadier97
    @TheGrenadier97 9 месяцев назад +6

    It's curious how sometimes the absolute expression of something good happens exactly at its ending.

  • @samuelhoneycutt2946
    @samuelhoneycutt2946 8 месяцев назад +2

    Translation is great 👍

  • @marcokite
    @marcokite 9 месяцев назад +48

    The beginning of the end, one of the saddest days in history. Please pray for the souls of John XXIII and Paul VI.

    • @marekkowalski4187
      @marekkowalski4187 9 месяцев назад +6

      Bracie masz rację świetność naszego Kościoła katolickiego nagle została zakłócona przypodobać się światu jakie to przygnębiające i bolesne

    • @rfermuniz
      @rfermuniz 9 месяцев назад +6

      How are we supposed to pray for canonized saints? Canonization is infallible.

    • @bobaphat3676
      @bobaphat3676 9 месяцев назад

      are you stupid ? These comments make me laugh. We should praying for people like yourself, steeped in pride and arrogance.

    • @beskow749
      @beskow749 9 месяцев назад +2

      They are canonized

    • @MAMRetro
      @MAMRetro 9 месяцев назад

      Oh, sooo true.

  • @tiborszekely8303
    @tiborszekely8303 9 месяцев назад +9

    It is so great to see it with such an amazing quality! Is that Cardinal Ottaviani on the left at 24.19?

  • @marcomarco9192
    @marcomarco9192 8 месяцев назад +3

    La celebrazione del solenne funerale della Chiesa Cattolica!

  • @josehenri3384
    @josehenri3384 2 часа назад

    The Holy Second Vatican Council beautiful

  • @NemoExNusquam
    @NemoExNusquam 9 месяцев назад +34

    Bring traditionalism back!

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +4

      It never dies. Traditionalism is even rooted in catholicism (Revelation is also contained in the Tradition)

    • @ednakelley814
      @ednakelley814 9 месяцев назад

      Just where is all this authorised by God in the scriptures?

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +12

      @@ednakelley814 Sola Scriputra is heresy.

    • @ednakelley814
      @ednakelley814 9 месяцев назад

      @@liturgiarzymska So where in scripture does God authorize this? If God did not authorize this that means man did. We are suppose to follow God , NOT man.

    • @OUTBOUND184
      @OUTBOUND184 8 месяцев назад

      The Church was instituted by God incarnate@@ednakelley814

  • @Mordeczka1849
    @Mordeczka1849 9 месяцев назад +14

    2:37 The bishop with glasses in the middle is Karol Wojtyla. The later John Paul II

    • @antywacek3696
      @antywacek3696 8 месяцев назад

      Heretyk

    • @calebadcock363
      @calebadcock363 3 месяца назад

      @@antywacek3696That’s a strange way to spell saint

  • @litoboy5
    @litoboy5 9 месяцев назад +6

    Great

  • @1991jerzy
    @1991jerzy 9 месяцев назад +51

    No i się zaczęło wszystko sypać...

    • @michaelbelmontes4046
      @michaelbelmontes4046 9 месяцев назад +11

      Agree! Bring back Tradition!

    • @jorgeluiznevespereiradasil1942
      @jorgeluiznevespereiradasil1942 9 месяцев назад +3

      Os que estão usando casula são os cardeais.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +6

      Warto poczytać jak to wyglądało. Jest dobra książka ojca Ralph Wiltgen SVD. Aktualnie dogłębnie sprawy soborowe analizuje dr Paweł Milcarek (planuje wydać sporą publikację na ten temat, aktualnie publikuje teksty na stronie "Christianitas").

    • @paternoster2922
      @paternoster2922 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jorgeluiznevespereiradasil1942 ce sont majoritairement des évêques qui étaient au concile les cardinaux portent le rouge et non le blanc...

    • @PrenticeBoy1688
      @PrenticeBoy1688 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@paternoster2922 Have you never seen a cardinal vested for mass? Cardinals don't wear red chasubles when everybody else wears white.

  • @hooligansmonzanitrogaia1167
    @hooligansmonzanitrogaia1167 8 месяцев назад +6

    Beginning of the end...

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  8 месяцев назад +3

      Portae inferi non praevalebunt.

    • @nOPE-fs3du
      @nOPE-fs3du 4 часа назад

      @@liturgiarzymska Doesn't mean a council can't fail, millions of souls can't be lost, and Popes and bishops can't be fools and make horrid mistakes.

  • @melanifekete1936
    @melanifekete1936 9 месяцев назад +24

    Es wurde uns die Messe aller Zeiten gestohlen die lateinische Messe für viele damals der traurigste Tag.
    Viele Priester sind an Traurigkeit gestorben,wie konnte das so weit kommen.
    Herr erbarme Dich unser und lass die Tradition weiter wachsen🙏❤
    Gelobt sei Jesus Christus in Ewigkeit 🙏

    • @norbertostern
      @norbertostern 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ja, der Messeritus, welcher Kathedralen, musica sacra über Jahrhunderte und unzählige Heilige hervorbrachte wurde uns genommen. Und was haben wir heute statt dessen? Es ist eine granz traurige Situation.

    • @melanifekete1936
      @melanifekete1936 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@norbertosternwir haben heute tatsächlich überlebende Kongregationen o. Bruderschaften die noch lateinische Messen zelebrieren man muss nur heraus finden in der nähe wo sie wohnen.
      Piusbruderschaft da sind wir und Gott sei Dank und Lob dafür🙏❤

    • @melanifekete1936
      @melanifekete1936 9 месяцев назад +1

      Gelobt sei Jesus Christus in Ewigkeit.Amen🙏❤⚔

  • @pius3162
    @pius3162 8 месяцев назад

    Jesus I Trust in You! Hallelujah! Amen!

  • @jung_in43
    @jung_in43 8 месяцев назад +4

    Hello, I am a Korean who wants to understand the Second Vatican Council.Are there any Korean subtitles?

    • @brazos.capital
      @brazos.capital 8 месяцев назад

      Look up Taylor Marshall

    • @jung_in43
      @jung_in43 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@brazos.capitalthank you

  • @thesingingorganistelorgani5154
    @thesingingorganistelorgani5154 9 месяцев назад +4

    Wow

  • @markcampbell8460
    @markcampbell8460 9 месяцев назад +4

    A glorious time in our church's history!

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +4

      As the narrator says: the councils testify to the vitality of the Church. Unfortunately, with the pontificate of Paul VI, this seems to have gone awry....

  • @davidcurran-z8g
    @davidcurran-z8g 9 месяцев назад +8

    So interesting to see the old style vestments and the very ornate papal attire. John XXIII was a humble and holy man whose brief time as Pope still resonates that he Catholic Church today.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +9

      His "Diary of a Soul" is worth reading. He was an old man who believed that the renewal of the Church would not bring anything bad. Intentions, as we know, are often good, but along the way different things happen....

    • @adamandrews4107
      @adamandrews4107 9 месяцев назад +1

      Now clergy dress in rags and make a mockery of Catholic worship and doctrine.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +5

      @@adamandrews4107 Unfortunately, formation in seminaries is simply "weak," and priests are required not to be a man of God, but primarily to be someone "cool" to people.

    • @DerPinguim
      @DerPinguim 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@liturgiarzymska That's the whole story of Vatican II: A bunch of people who genuinely wanted to help the Church, but unfortunaly opened the gate for much destruction. There's nothing theologically wrong or heretical in the council, but many of the things it calls for are simply not good ideas.

    • @grzegorzlagut8917
      @grzegorzlagut8917 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@DerPinguimJakie złe pomysły?

  • @magedmahny
    @magedmahny 9 месяцев назад +5

    that was the beginning of the distruction of the church

  • @wandergregorio9663
    @wandergregorio9663 9 месяцев назад +6

    Esse vídeo é muito bom a pesar de ser das coisas pra alegria dos Mordernistas infelizmente
    agora eu vou terminar de assistir esse video
    que tristeza ver a nossa (sancta geleia verdadeira )
    indo embora e triste a abertura dessa seita do Vaticano II

  • @creatoree
    @creatoree 8 месяцев назад +3

    cuando todavía quedaba tradición... Kyrie Eleison

  • @dfgda599
    @dfgda599 9 месяцев назад +7

    Dlaczego część biskupów jest w kapach, a część w ornatach?

    • @jorgeluiznevespereiradasil1942
      @jorgeluiznevespereiradasil1942 9 месяцев назад +1

      Os que usam casulas são os cardeais.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +5

      To Kardynałowie. Dzielą się oni na trzy stopnie ("ordines"): biskupów, prezbiterów i diakonów. W czasie, gdy asystują papieżowi każdy nosi szaty własne dla swojego stopnia (kapa, ornat, dalmatyka) oraz infułę.

  • @asimpleuser123
    @asimpleuser123 9 месяцев назад +3

    The beginning of the chaos.......

  • @tolkeinlewis3546
    @tolkeinlewis3546 8 месяцев назад +7

    As I watch this ceremony in all of its splendor, I feel an inpending sense of doom. I wish that I could walk through the screen and beg them to stop, to warn them of what would come as a result of the Council. Then again, many already knew and wanted it. Still others were well meaning but ignorant. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" after all. It hurts my heart to see what the Church has become. I thank God for the preservation of Tradition, even if it is being surpressed.

  • @sirediedhiou4585
    @sirediedhiou4585 8 месяцев назад

    Bravo, Vaticano, di. Nazareth,... mes. Respects, et. Cordialement...!!!

  • @OlafSobe
    @OlafSobe 8 месяцев назад +2

    The beginning of the end.

  • @paoloriceputi8777
    @paoloriceputi8777 9 месяцев назад +8

    L apice del declino della Santa romana ecclesia😢

  • @s3v3n3
    @s3v3n3 9 месяцев назад +6

    What a tragedy🙁

  • @VpalmeroS
    @VpalmeroS 8 месяцев назад +1

    LOS QUE REALMENTE DOMINAN Y GOBIERNAN EL MUNDO. Y SIN EJERCITO, LO NUNCA VISTO EN LA HISTORIA DE LA HUMANIDAD.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  8 месяцев назад +1

      Una visión muy superficial, muy mundana.

    • @VpalmeroS
      @VpalmeroS 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@liturgiarzymska .....seguro que tus visiones son más "espirituales" jajajajjajajajajjajajajajjajajajja

  • @justindominigayo6903
    @justindominigayo6903 8 месяцев назад

    How beautiful Catholicism is.
    Vatican II manifested the most outstanding work of the Holy Spirit in the Modern age.

  • @dominikbutkiewicz5473
    @dominikbutkiewicz5473 8 месяцев назад +1

    2:34 (in the middle; small episcopal miter) bishop Karol Wojtyła 🇵🇱 future Pope John Paul II

  • @uuuggghgh7912
    @uuuggghgh7912 9 месяцев назад +5

    That was beginning of the end of our church...

  • @paternoster2922
    @paternoster2922 9 месяцев назад +2

    Voilà pourquoi La Très Sainte Vierge Marie avait demandée a Sœur Lucie de Fatima qu'il fallait que son message soit délivré au monde avant 1953 !
    Afin d'éviter le règne de l'antéchrist sur l'église catholique...

  • @paulocanlapan3191
    @paulocanlapan3191 9 месяцев назад +28

    Beginning of the Church Destruction

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +7

      The real problems actually began with the pontificate of Paul VI. The Progressives felt the wind in their sails then, and even the Pope did not have the strength (desire? will?) to stop them, even though he made it clear in public statements and in private meetings that he was not happy with what was happening.

    • @JamesBond-hg6xd
      @JamesBond-hg6xd 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@liturgiarzymskaPope John 23, he wanted to preserve the liturgical tradition I think, he wanted to preserve Latin, the index at least for theological or religious books!

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +2

      @@JamesBond-hg6xd His "Diary of the Soul" is worth reading. It is a truly valuable read. Roncalli didn't have bad intentions, he probably didn't expect that there were such strong reformist currents in the Church or, even more so, that 2 years after his death there would be such violent and such damaging changes (with the apogee in 1969), including Latin - after all, in 1962 he published a wonderful Apostolic Constitution (sic!) on the Latin language and its cultivation in the Church.

    • @redmi9834
      @redmi9834 9 месяцев назад +2

      Pope John XXIII said that he hoped that the council would teach the faith with every greater clarity and without attenuation. Can anybody with their hand on the Bible swear that this is what happened in the wake of Vatican 2?

    • @tomthx5804
      @tomthx5804 9 месяцев назад

      The mentally ill people who adhere to the schismatic Lefebvre are always saying this, because they are controlled by demons.

  • @luisalbertoflorez1885
    @luisalbertoflorez1885 9 месяцев назад +2

    De lo q sirvió. Esté concilio de nada .

  • @yzv9438
    @yzv9438 8 месяцев назад +2

    Согласен с комментарием, что радикальные реформы осуществленными римской курии привели к ослаблению и внутренним противоречиям в самой католической церкви. Идея изначально была не плохая, но примат папы и единоличная его власть не объединили, но лишь разозлили и усугубили внутреннее единство этой церкви, Сейчас спустя более 60 лет она пожинает плоды этого собора, Если бы на этом соборе католическая церковь пересмотрела свое отпаления от Вселенского православия, а именно покаялась и отрекалсаь от лживого своего учения как «догматических так и нравственных истин» - это было бы эпохальным событием всего мирового христианства, но диволу губителю человеческих душ не угодно это святое дело. Он лукавством, обманом, хитростью и гордыней уловил миллионы душ людей, которые были ослеплены и поражены расколом, а так благодаря киносъёмки мы можем видеть историческое свидетельство тех событий минувшего столетия)

  • @joni3503
    @joni3503 8 месяцев назад

    Looks like Joseph Siri 12:13 emerging from the right part of the screen, wearing glasses.

  • @FGMP78
    @FGMP78 9 месяцев назад +5

    The tragedy started

  • @krystynamikorska300
    @krystynamikorska300 9 месяцев назад +1

    I to był początek końca Kościoła Katolickiego!!!!! 😈

  • @Ultimus_Romanorum_V
    @Ultimus_Romanorum_V 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sunt creștin ortodox, dar cu respect mă atârn față de Biserica Romano-Catolică.
    Dar Conciliul de la Vatican II a fost o greșeală care duce Biserica pe o cale foarte greșită.
    Doamne ocrotește pe ortodocși și catolici.

    • @joaquercus
      @joaquercus 9 месяцев назад +1

      Amén hermano mío, que pena lo que sucede hoy con mi Iglesia Romana, la Ortodoxia ha mostrado mayor fuerza y convicción.

    • @Ultimus_Romanorum_V
      @Ultimus_Romanorum_V 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@joaquercus🤝

  • @ProfRafaelOrtega
    @ProfRafaelOrtega 8 месяцев назад +1

    Os santos bispos não imaginavam que depois disso, “a fumaça de Satanás entraria na Igreja”, assim como disse S. Paulo VI.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  8 месяцев назад

      Bem, algumas pessoas, como evidenciado por numerosos relatos e diários, sabiam exatamente por que estavam indo ao conselho. Também são importantes as alianças concluídas entre os bispos e a criação de grupos de ação específicos.

  • @marcostavares8735
    @marcostavares8735 8 месяцев назад

    Fariseus da modernidade!!

  • @PrawyKanal
    @PrawyKanal 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ciekawe jak by dziś taki sobór wyglądał?

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +3

      Można wyrobić sobie wyobrażenie obserwując synod(y).

    • @krystynakucaa3690
      @krystynakucaa3690 9 месяцев назад +1

      Podobnie jak synod synodalnosci 😢😮

  • @jacquesdauvergne816
    @jacquesdauvergne816 9 месяцев назад +2

    Fiat voluntas tua sicut in caelo,et in terra. Deo Gracias à Sainta Luisa Piccarreta, et Saint Hannibal Marie Di Francia , Amen-fiat.

  • @shimmyhinnah
    @shimmyhinnah 8 месяцев назад +2

    The day which will go down in infamy.

  • @paulminihan8396
    @paulminihan8396 8 месяцев назад

    The beginning of the end

  • @oakandiron_
    @oakandiron_ 8 месяцев назад +3

    Dear Catholics, I’m sorry this happened to you. 🤲🏻

  • @magdalenamaria7182
    @magdalenamaria7182 8 месяцев назад +1

    Tu nastąpiła zdrada Jezusa Chrystusa , Kościoła i Mszy sw Wszechczasów.

  • @Giluke00
    @Giluke00 9 месяцев назад +2

    Conciliábulo do Vaticano II

  • @jesusgonzalez-acton8045
    @jesusgonzalez-acton8045 9 месяцев назад +6

    “The smoke of Satan has entered the Church”

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +3

      Portae inferi non praevalebunt. What is puzzling, however, is how Paul VI spoke about the changes, decisions and the effects of those decisions (both publicly and in private speeches to curialists) and how... he did practically nothing about it. The only expression of papal opposition to the raging fever of change was the encyclical Humanae Vitae.

    • @MarquesDeTamandare1865
      @MarquesDeTamandare1865 9 месяцев назад +2

      Sede vacante

  • @guillaumehautier9418
    @guillaumehautier9418 9 месяцев назад +1

    Le titre devrait-être : "Cérémonie d'ouverture du convent (tenue maçonnique ouverte aux non initiés) Vatican d'eux"
    Le terme concile est réservé à l'Église catholique.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +1

      Et comment le prouver ? Quand, comment et où Rome a-t-elle cessé d'être catholique ? Où se trouve l'Église catholique et depuis quand ?

    • @guillaumehautier9418
      @guillaumehautier9418 9 месяцев назад

      @@liturgiarzymska L'Église EST éclipsée. Elle est cachée par un astre qui lui ôte son éclat. Cet astre éclipsant occupe les structures physiques de l'Église dont le siège pétrinien est le tout.
      Roncalli était un franc-maçon donc excommunié de facto. Donc impossible d'être Pape.
      Que dit l'exorcisme de Léon XIII ?
      Le Christ et son Éeglise c'est tout un. Donc l'Église ne peut ni se tromper ni nous tromper.
      N'est-ce pas assez clair qu'il y a eu une rupture en 1958 ?

    • @MAMRetro
      @MAMRetro 9 месяцев назад

      Vraiment. D’accord.

    • @AlphonseFonce-pk1gx
      @AlphonseFonce-pk1gx 9 месяцев назад

      pauvre choupinou.

    • @guillaumehautier9418
      @guillaumehautier9418 9 месяцев назад

      @@AlphonseFonce-pk1gx Pourquoi "pauvre choupinou" ? Ça ne semble pas très adapté au ton que j'ai employé dans les commentaires précédents.

  • @marekkowalski4187
    @marekkowalski4187 9 месяцев назад +4

    Plecami do tabernakulum hostia na rękę śpiew gregoriański w zapomnienie a przecież tradycja to 2000 życia w blasku Chrystusa naszego Zbawiciela

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +2

      No cóż, nawet konstytucję o liturgii promulgowano już w czasie pontyfikatu Pawła VI. Kolejne lata to wręcz geometryczny wzrost nadużyć i eksperymentów, które rzeczywiście raczej nie pomagają wierze w Eucharystię i inne dogmaty.

  • @sallysaly9278
    @sallysaly9278 9 месяцев назад +1

    Semoga diterjemahkan ke dalam bahasa indonesia Amin.

  • @abelardohernandez9995
    @abelardohernandez9995 9 месяцев назад

    Juan 23 muy lindo

  • @blaisevincent2620
    @blaisevincent2620 8 месяцев назад

    Modiyum Rahul Gandhiyum Blaise yude Aadharum Number um Location Matti Pravarthikkunnu Yeshu Namathil Amen❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Cjnw
    @Cjnw 8 месяцев назад +1

    President John F Kennedy went to Heaven during the 2. Vatican Council!

  • @jeyjo325
    @jeyjo325 9 месяцев назад +2

    The beginning of the End..!

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +1

      Portae inferi non praevalebunt.

    • @ws6488
      @ws6488 9 месяцев назад +1

      Die Hölle gibt es nicht (Prediger 3:18-20 und Johannes 5:28,29).

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ws6488 Nun, das wird jeder selbst herausfinden 🙂

    • @lindet3965
      @lindet3965 9 месяцев назад

      Was meinen Sie mit den Versen?

    • @ws6488
      @ws6488 9 месяцев назад

      Ganz einfach man muss sie nur richtig lesen und verstehen.
      Was wird gesagt? Ich schreibe aus der J.F.v.Allioli v. 2007 folgendes: … Gott prüfe sie und zeige ihnen, daß sie den Tieren ähnlich sind. (sich also nicht unterscheiden) Darum kommt der Mensch um (stirbt er) wie das Tier und EIN Schicksal haben beide; wie der Mensch stirbt, so stirbt auch jenes: (das Tier) a l l e haben den gleichen Lebensodem und der Mensch hat keinen Vorzug (nichts Voraus) vor dem Vieh; a l l e s ist der Eitelkeit unterworfen und a l l e s geht dahin an EINEN Ort; aus Erde ist alles geworden und zur Erde kehrt alles wieder zurück.
      Das Fett gedruckte Wort hier wird in dieser Übersetzung in kursiv angezeigt.
      Nun, wenn alle an einen Ort gehen auch das Vieh, wo soll dann der Ort für eine Hölle sein?
      Und zu Johannes 5:28,29 sagt Jesus hier als erstes: Wundert euch nicht, warum wohl? Weil er etwas mitteilen wird was nicht in das Konzept derer passt, die daran glauben das die Menschen nicht gleich in den Himmel oder in die Hölle kommen.
      Denn er sagt ja dort das noch alle in den Gräbern sind, und erst wenn er das zweite mal (Parousia) wiederkommt wird er die Gerechten auferwecken, hier ist nicht die Rede von ein Hinüberleben.
      Sogar die Ungerechten (Bösen) werden auferweckt. Ich denke sie sind für immer in der Hölle?

  • @cristinaaquino136
    @cristinaaquino136 8 месяцев назад +3

    Uma verdadeira tragédia na igreja católica!😐

    • @heliofiliperibeirosouza9011
      @heliofiliperibeirosouza9011 8 месяцев назад

      E ainda fica dizendo que " As portas do Inferno nunca prevalecerá", por mais que isso tenha sido dito pelo SENHOR JESUS CRISTO a SÃO PEDRO, esse CONCÍLIO foi início da vinda do ANTICRISTO, e nos dias atuais está acontecendo o AGRAVAMENTO da vinda do ANTICRISTO com FRANCISCO BERGÓLIO, que terá como CONSEQUÊNCIA final, o cumprimento da PROFECIA APOCALÍPTICA DA IRA DE DEUS, em que só SOBREVIVERÃO a essa PROFECIA somente aqueles que estiverem em PENITÊNCIA nas suas casas rezando o SANTO ROSÁRIO sem NENHUM CONTATO com o mundo externo durante esses três dias, já que além da chuva de 🔥🔥🔥🔥 que estará caindo sem parar transformado tudo o que foi edificado por mãos humanas em RUÍNAS, uma MALDIÇÃO estará levando as pessoas que não tiveram se trancado em suas casas no momento em que os sinais da vinda dessa PROFECIA apareceu, serão levados DIRETAMENTE para o INFERNO.

  • @pius3162
    @pius3162 8 месяцев назад

    Pope John XXIII (Preparation and Session-I) and Pope Paul VI (Session - II-IV)

  • @estebansantoyo8750
    @estebansantoyo8750 9 месяцев назад +2

    El comienzo de la traición a la Santa Iglesia.

  • @andersonaraujoluz8978
    @andersonaraujoluz8978 8 месяцев назад

    Cadê os 6 pastores protestantes que participaram desse infeliz concílio?

  • @deus_vult8111
    @deus_vult8111 9 месяцев назад +15

    Council of Apostasy

  • @luisalbertoflorez1885
    @luisalbertoflorez1885 9 месяцев назад +1

    Recuerden la Ramera está . En la Ciudad de las 7 colinas, Roma.

    • @NICOLAS-2209
      @NICOLAS-2209 8 месяцев назад

      Geograficamente sua pesquisa está errada, só pegar onde está o Vaticano no Mapa.

  • @markwrede8878
    @markwrede8878 9 месяцев назад

    Surrogacy threatens the propriety of the soul, apparently, establishing ownership being the primary question of faith.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +1

      What conclusions are these statements supposed to lead to?

    • @markwrede8878
      @markwrede8878 9 месяцев назад

      @@liturgiarzymska Who owns ya, baby?

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +1

      @@markwrede8878 God alone is the Lord of all things.
      But it's good that you're paying attention. Because this type of comment only proves that it is your mind that has long been possessed by the people of this world and nolens volens you serve them in this way 🙂

    • @markwrede8878
      @markwrede8878 9 месяцев назад

      @@liturgiarzymska Your faith is concerned with ownership, and morality plays no part.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +2

      @@markwrede8878 Well, then you have no idea about this faith 🙂Is it ignorance or already agnotology, or maybe trolling? Anyway, it doesn't matter here.

  • @marceloSilvapereira-h2x
    @marceloSilvapereira-h2x 8 месяцев назад

    Os anti Cristos se reunindo

  • @eymerichinquisitore9022
    @eymerichinquisitore9022 7 месяцев назад

    The beginning of the end of the Roman Church.

  • @nemeZZiSS666
    @nemeZZiSS666 8 месяцев назад

    in past dat grandpa make it without glasses

  • @diegocristerna5187
    @diegocristerna5187 8 месяцев назад

    Los comentarios que critican el concilio me dan risa

    • @diegocristerna5187
      @diegocristerna5187 8 месяцев назад

      @PaulusVTarsus claro, surgieron muchos carismas que acercaron a la gente a la iglesia, está Hakuna que ha convertido a muchos chavos en España, está claro que también se abrió a un diálogo que ha generado frutos, quizá los líderes no se han convertido, pero muchos fieles de otras denominaciones se abrieron a investigar el cristianismo primitivo gracias al diálogo ecuménico, y el surgimiento de grupos que (sin salirse de la doctrina) pastorean sectores que poco a poco se van acercando a Dios sin importar el tiempo que pase para que comprendan la doctrina social de la iglesia, a mi me costó entenderla

    • @diegocristerna5187
      @diegocristerna5187 8 месяцев назад

      @PaulusVTarsus ustedes en cambio lefebvristas y tradicionalistas lo que hacen es condenar al prójimo, dividir a los fieles católicos y querer adaptar a los demás a su manera de pensar sin hablarles de Jesús, solo les interesa seguir un determinado tipo de pensamiento político e ideológico sin antes conocer las Sagradas Escrituras, ustedes carecen de empatía y caridad con el prójimo a la hora de acercar a las personas a Dios y que con el tiempo comprendan la doctrina social poco a poco

    • @diegocristerna5187
      @diegocristerna5187 8 месяцев назад

      Me censuraron o porque no se ven mis comentarios?

  • @mariathrun5472
    @mariathrun5472 9 месяцев назад

    9.01.24 rok ..120 rocznica Non Posimus ...dla powstania Izraela..... polskiego Popieza Piusa X 26.01.1904 ....biskup kozal mial 10 lat

    • @xnnnbbbssggggueie
      @xnnnbbbssggggueie 9 месяцев назад

      polskie pochodzenie Piusa X to niestety legenda i tylko legenda

    • @mariathrun5472
      @mariathrun5472 9 месяцев назад

      @@xnnnbbbssggggueie ile dostałeś ? 26.06.2023 ...masoni zapłacili w Lublinie 2 miliony za nagrodę heretyka Kiko ...tego dnia jacys historycy w Opolu udowadniali że Pius X nie był polskim papieżem ...dobra szkoła wyszynskich ......Stefana ...i jego kuzyna adwokata Stalina Andrzeja .odpowiedzialnego od 1917 rza miliony likwidacji ..co z gwiazdką do nieba Adolfa mesjasza narodu niemieckiego 22.11.1954 w Nowym Jorku odleciał ...

  • @gestionturismo6580
    @gestionturismo6580 8 месяцев назад +1

    No creo que el concilio de Nicea fuera asi de rimbombante y sin embargo fue mucho mas rico en doctrina, el vaticano II demostro la inoperancia burocratica, la ingenuidad de los defensores de la verdad y lo terriblemente organizados que fueron los progresistas.

  • @diba89
    @diba89 8 месяцев назад +1

    SOL INVICTUS, SUN OF GOD

  • @dorneleslopes4153
    @dorneleslopes4153 9 месяцев назад

    🙄🙄🙈🙈🙊🙊🤐🤐🙏🙏

  • @veritasvincit3399
    @veritasvincit3399 8 месяцев назад

    Que tragédia foi o Vll

  • @stevenmichael3426
    @stevenmichael3426 9 месяцев назад +1

    The beginning of the fall of the church. Sad.

  • @wandergregorio9663
    @wandergregorio9663 9 месяцев назад

    acho que se eu estivesse vívido aquela época
    eu como tantos jovens da minha idade eu acho que eu iria acho eu iria gostar dessa grande novidade
    porque nos jovens gostamos das novidades naquela época aconteceu a chegada do Rock da bitomania dos quatros garotos brancos da Inglaterra acurtando as saias das moças e o Rook e tudo mais
    esses concílios Vaticano I e o Vaticano II
    Foi e muito Ruim pra sancta eglesia católica verdadeira foi muito ruim esse concílio Vaticano I e II
    Entendeu?

  • @abalanna
    @abalanna 9 месяцев назад

    A mi się nie podoba ten przepych. Ubrania. Ochrona. Pompa. Wydaje się to wszystko bardzo nieewangeliczne. Przypomina się wydłużanie frędzli u płaszcza…

  • @abrahamphilip6439
    @abrahamphilip6439 9 месяцев назад +4

    Opening ceremony of the Apostasy

  • @barra6709
    @barra6709 9 месяцев назад

    In hindsight decades later, this was a massive mistake.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +1

      60 years is a short period of time. In 100, 200 years, it will be possible to make these kinds of assessments with more confidence.

  • @javieragudelo8043
    @javieragudelo8043 8 месяцев назад

    Vuelhoby respiro sibestos papas d pacotilla no se arrepiente d corazon y no s buscan dl señor jesucristo lastimosamente se perderan aunque ya estan perdido esta iglesia jamas entendera la verdad

  • @zalobo
    @zalobo 9 месяцев назад +6

    WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED !!!

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  9 месяцев назад +4

      God's Providence must not be underestimated.

  • @EnriquePerez-xm4xs
    @EnriquePerez-xm4xs 8 месяцев назад

    Huyy, da miedo está legión

  • @brunosantos5837
    @brunosantos5837 9 месяцев назад +2

    A tragédia

  • @ishiftfocus1769
    @ishiftfocus1769 8 месяцев назад +2

    When the Emperor Constantine declared himself to be the Summus Pontifex, what followed was more than ten centuries of Dark Ages, during which time people who professed Christ rather than Mary or the Popes, people who denied transubstantiation, were fed to lions or burned at the stake. During the Dark Ages, for a common person to read the Bible was a sin for which there was no forgiveness; and so the people were spoon-fed from the papist pulpit. The Bible was said to exist only in the Latin text and the common and largely illiterate people could learn the stories that were in the Bible from paintings and stained glass windows. Those who first made the Bible available in the language of the people were killed for their trouble; but when Martin Luther quoted Paul, of all people, the Protestant Reformation began.
    No penitent works, turning-from-your sins work, self sacrificial works, religious works, or confessional works can forgive a single sin in your life.
    Only by faith, and by faith only, in the finished work of Calvary’s cross can we receive forgiveness and imputed righteousness by God’s grace.

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  8 месяцев назад +2

      Have you read Luther's writings at all? Are you familiar with his language and views? Do you know why he renounced his faith and started making up his excuses? Surely you want to trust such a man and believe that all you have to do is believe that it will be good for it to be good? We are already leaving aside the heap of nonsense that was written in this commentary, both historical, theological and biblical.

  • @jaafardahlan5465
    @jaafardahlan5465 8 месяцев назад

    Did Jesus wear that costume?

    • @liturgiarzymska
      @liturgiarzymska  8 месяцев назад +1

      Let's not be historically ignorant, please!

  • @marcelosouza-lv8kg
    @marcelosouza-lv8kg 9 месяцев назад +1

    A abertura em si já parece um filme de terror das seitas antigas!

  • @auuuu293
    @auuuu293 8 месяцев назад

    Đức Giáo Hoàng Gioan 23

  • @BALDUINOKURDO
    @BALDUINOKURDO 8 месяцев назад

    El final de lo maravillosos y santo….
    El inicio de lo satánico y mamarracho.

  • @selfloathingweekly
    @selfloathingweekly 8 месяцев назад

    This was the beginning of the end of the catholic church
    The worst mistake they ever made.