Should BTS Serve In The Korean Army? | ASIAN BOSS
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"If BTS served in the military, will they still be BTS or they'll be ARMY???"
Suga Kara thank you for this 😂😂😂
It depends where they serve there's - Marine, Navy, Army, Air force. Those are branches of Military.
@@AnnA-vg5vx girl
@@simp8966 Right 😂😂 she ruined the joke
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Don’t y’all find it weird how you international Kpop stans are more upset about this than actual Koreans who had served in the military?
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Don’t y’all find it weird how there’s a so many comments saying this exact thing
jimbon x when I commented this I didn’t see any of these comments, you’re late lmfao.
A whole day late 😂 I just seen this too lol
Who’s upset? I certainly don’t see any “upset” comments here but I see 5+ similar comments.
Suga said they will join military when the time comes, we should stop worrying about this and enjoy their music more.
I just love him,,,
Good he’s a true korean. Idk why these foreigners are sayin they shouldn’t. They dont know anything about korean history.
@@jihochung1307 It's not that "these foreigners" know nothing about Korean history, it's that the enlistment seems more of a forced ritual, than necessary because it's unyielding to those who are making great contributions to Asian people, Korea, and the WORLD. When people are doing something positive and changing history world wide and then that momentum is stopped, it's really a crime against all of humanity at that point. BTS have become a phenomenon and are more than just k-pop Idols in the WORLDS eye, so yeah the enlistment is undergoing heavy criticism.
The enlistment is such an ingrained mechanical ideology FORCED by law that it gives no room for an evolving society. The responses are so robotic when it comes to BTS serving in the military. It's like we don't care that they have changed history and are continuing to make history and spreading Korean culture and bringing a lot of attention to Korea and it's culture, they need to serve because.....................tradition oh and culture, even though they are doing more for the country outside the military.
Tharur T ... the fact u said all that means u dont know the history or korea
@@jihochung1307 Well the bulk of what i said was in regards to BTS impact in entertainment and the harshness of the enlistment, there is no denying that unless you're delusional or an outright liar or maybe a bit of both.
You simply made a vague statement with no context.
why is everyone freaking out, it’s not like they’re going to war lmao.
edit: since people are still confused, check my reply below.
Many Asian countries are not in good terms with S.Korea
They’re gonna be gone for 2 years at the least. Who knows if they are all going together? If they don’t all go together, they will not be the full bts for a while. We can only hope that they will be gone for the shortest amount of time. The military is not for the faint of heart.
I hope that army is going to stay and stream but with bts not able to even speak to us through social media, their popularity world wide would certainly fade a little bit. 2 years of your life can be detrimental to their career. I still think that they will go because they have to, and it isn’t fair to those who have served.
@Judy Wu they won’t all go together. and you don’t need to worry about their popularity, they will most likely release either solo songs or do sub units while some of the members are away to keep the fans fed. and it’s obvious that they have to go, it’s not optional. the consequences are severe if they skip, especially if they’re a famous celebrity.
i just think a lot of armys, especially new ones are confused about the whole ‘getting sent to the military’ situation. it’s not like they’re going to war, it’s just mandatory training to prepare them in the event that a war does happen. this is because of the situation with north korea and etc. they’re basically being provided knowledge to help them if something goes wrong.
For me its the time. BTS have done a lot for me then you know and some people might find it silly that i'm saying they saved my life but its true. They brought me joy and just their funny personality made me laugh when most things couldn't.
Not that I know BTS, but judging by how they embrace their culture a lot, they might feel embarrassed or uncomfortable being exempt from the military. They also come across as very humble, so they'd probably prefer to participate (especially since it is the law).
Clare why would they be embarrassed, why you assuming their feelings , do you know bts personally? They deserve the exemption why stop their career now that they close to mainstream no other kpop or musician from Korea is even close to them
Julio Hernandez no because it’s the law, and they r Korean, and one of them will serve
They actually said they would enlist because this issue came up before and before it got even worse they told the public they would serve. But thatwas before they went extremely famous overseas. And after that wven their goverment wants them to be exempted.
@@alia-vo8rn actually no. There are exemptions and there are celebrities that were exempted even though they didn't do good enough like BTS. BTS are over qualified for those standards taht even their government wants them to be exempted but the biys themselves wants to serve because they are korean and it's one of their country's pride.
Dr. Roberie they told you that ? Lol
If I'm not mistaken, the congressman never specifically said that BTS needs to be exempt from the mandatory military service; a lot of translators on twitter emphasised that. He said that K-pop stars, actors, b-boys, athletes, and others who represent the country well internationally should be considered for exemptions, because currently only classical musicians and dancers, and world class athletes who represent South Korea on a global stage and achieve high results receive exemptions. That is, criteria for receiving exemptions should be broadened to reflect contemporary culture.
AF I like that, that law should be put in place
Yes, AFAIK everyone with big impact or achievement or maybe even Nobel prize
AF finally someone who actually read the statement. Everyone’s overeacting😒
Exactly. They’re just using BTS for views when it should be ALL k-idols, athletes, etc
They would feel shitty avoiding it
If they don’t serve then, it’s unfair for all the other K-pop idols and celebrities that did serve.
My point!
yes.
It maybe unfair, but I think, I've heard that the Koreans can not going if they're really spread Korean culture worldwide, to a lot of the other countries in the world.
And I think BTS did it. Now, the world knows Korea and start to learn hangeul bcoz of BTS.
Emilia Doruma i don’t think that’s true
@@geniuslab6829 You can't just say Korea's success is due to BTS, as the world is going online, more people are gonna be interested in Korean culture anyways, not even with the help of BTS or K-Pop
as international armys we don't have a say in this since we're not koreans, i'll just respect and support bts whether they enlist or not i'll be here walking with them ( i know it’s mandatory )
p.s. there’s a delay bcs of the cultural merit so whatever their government decides if they’ll be exempted or they’ll enlist, we’ll be ok with it bcs we’re not really going anywhere
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We can have a respectful opinion lol
@@luzycat7869 to be honest I disagree, we as foreigners will never be affected by the military process so we shouldn’t have say. I want what the majority of Koreans want because it’s their country and their lives that will be impacted.
@Anna Gabriele don’t worry we know it’s mandatory
I'm genuinely curious as to why non-koreans shouldn't have an opinion on bts enlisting. Like I really am curious. I want to understand why
Seems to me that majority of the commenters have no idea what the politician proposed. He said that the military exemption laws need to be updated to fit the current youths interests. He mentioned bboying, esports amongst other areas that should be eligible for exemption. Currently you’re exempted if you have high achievements in classical music or dance, so by that logic does it mean that your achievements in contemporary dance or music are worth less? The reason why Sonny is such a hot topic is he’s 26 right now and his only chance of receiving exemption is if South Korea wins the AFC Asian Cup next year, if not it will mean he’ll have to end his career prematurely, despite being a top class player, and return to South Korea to enlist. It’s not his fault that South Korea is struggling to produce more talent that could back him up on the national team. As an example I can bring you Lionel Messi. He’s considered to be one of the best football players in the history of the sport, but he has never won the World Cup or the Copa América and thus, if he were Korean, he’d have retire to serve in the military. For idols it’s not as bad because their companies can make do with the remaining members whilst the others are enlisted and age isn’t as important, especially for male idols. Either way, I think their policies need to be reviewed whether it’s for BTS or some other reason.
Jun I imagine that it has to be tough for them to recover their career once they go into serve. Maybe they make a couple more songs/music videos, then play those periodically throughout the timespan of their mandatory service. That being said, if others of the same level of success are exempt, then maybe they should also be exempt. Korea gotta stay strong though
None of those people, including classical dancers or musicians, should be exempted in my opinion. It creates an atmosphere of special treatment and a hierarchical system that is not healthy for society. Everybody, regardless of status, should have to serve. Korea already has problems with wealth inequality and less severe sentencing when the rich commit crimes, and giving special treatment to accomplished individuals only further continues Korea's problem of treating the wealthy like gods.
Jun
If Messi was born into a country with conscription, sure, such is life, too bad. People give up their dreams all the time. If his international career was that important to him, give up Korean citizenship. It's an option, not an easy one, but an option nonetheless.
RL. The difference between gd and bts while theyve both worked hard was the impac tbh but knowing bts' personalities if they do get a choice theyre still gonna serve
jesslegend are you trying to imply that bts has had more impact than gd? Cause lol
Can you ask Korean women what they think of South Korea’s mandatory military service for men?
They'll think "whatever, I don't have to serve because I'm a women; it doesn't effect me directly"
ᄋᄋ. i don't know the employment situation there but this extra-pts-system only makes sense if you compare male job interviewees. if these points have been used as an advantage for male interviewees compared to female interviewees, then it was just fair to abolish it.
ask them that and we will spiral back to korean men vs korean women bloodfest
*affect me
kayoruka Korean women get extra points too and plenty other benefits
It would be best for BTS to enlist in military all together so that they will all be gone on 2 years and not for almost a decade!! ;((
Yes I think the same... *It would be the best solution for them and for ARMY.* But I'm still confused about the fact we got 7 more years with BTS but when they're all done with military, from Jin to Jungkook, the 7 years are more than gone? Confusing
That means we won't get music for 2 years. If they go one by one the rest can still make songs
@pArK cHiMnEy would you rather wait 8 years to get an OT7 comeback? 7-1=0
If they go together that will decrease their fandoms and also will risk to the agency for almost 2 years, same like super junior they reunited almost 10 years, if they go to military together it will get chance other group increase their fandoms..too risky if they doing together, but if the go one by one the rest can still do the music and their fandoms will always with them even they not in complete member😊
technically they can't since the age gap between jk and jin is too wide :(
Commander: WHAT ARE YOU?
Jungkook: Justin Seagull
r u an indian boy fan of BTS??
Indian army❤❤
And for v
Commander : What are you?
Taehyung: I'm good boy
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@@taechwita6518 😂😂♥️
I am thinking of Henry's neck slice 😂😂😂 even though I am any ARMY l don't think BTS can beat henry with his stupidity 😂🤣
Should BTS serve in the Korean military? Take the poll in the video and discuss.
this whole thing is from a politician who bring this issue up....as part of army we believe they will serve in the military with no excuses ....so just stop the stupid video
Yeah so that they can kill themselves while fighting against ISIS?
Serious question. If you’re a male and have obtained korean citizenship, do you have to do the mandatory two years in the army?
Uekiya Engeika They’re not American. They won’t fight ISIS. If they do fight, it would be with North Korea.
Females don't care as it does not affect them is BS
Foreigners telling Koreans/Korean government what they should do is like neighbors telling my family what we should do based on what they see us do in our backyard...
Daniel Kang I know foreigners tbh have no say in this at all this has nothing to do with them yet still they want to get involved
lmao exactly. I rather not say anything right now and let things happen. I don't think we are the ones who should decide for anyone in this case
I-Army and BTS US fans, let us all rally and buy the Love yourself: Answer on 1st week of September all at the same time to make sure BTS will be #1 on BB 200 again and let us stream hard on Spotify, iTunes, etc. to give them BB 100 #1. We can also call radio stations to play BTS constantly to get Grammy’s attention. We can do it, this way the politicians will have every reason for BTS to be exempt and these haters will stay salty forever. These haters are pissing me off. I am ready to spend my hard earned dollars for BTS.
Like I know I don't have any jurisdiction on this topic but like I still have an opinion you know like no matter who you are where you live you'll hear something about another country's law and this either that's dumb or okay that's not bad I think this is like that
Chill .. we here only share our opinion about it,why you are upset? In the end the korean government is going to do what it's supposed to do, so no need to be so annoyed about that.
It's sad to see that BTS is not that well know in their home country itself. It seems they are more popular overseas...
I wouldn’t think it’s sad. It’s almost a given as just because they’re Koreans, they shouldn’t be expected to enjoy or listen to the same music as non-Koreans. There are plenty of Korean artists from other genres except pop Koreans are aware of that international fans may not know except for BTS. My Korean friend doesn’t even listen to kpop because he says it’s too cringey lol
@@Benjamin-zr9zw BTS love their country and I hope they were more popular in their own country as they promote Korea better that no one....I hope that they know BTS contribution to their country even if they do not like their music...I understand my own brother hates BTS...he..ee hates them.
Shivali M M then I think you shouldn’t say to be more “popular” but rather be more “recognized” than I can understand. When you hope for them to “be more popular” in their own country, that’s saying that more should like and enjoy BTS. There’s a big difference to that versus respecting them for what they do for their country
I just hope that their country *recognise* BTS for the good they bring to sk.
It's normal. Not all Korean likes Kpop. I ever watched a korean youtuber said that he stopped listening Kpop because Kpop nowadays is very different with the old one. And people have their own fav genre of music. In my country and I think all around the world, mostly Kpop fans right now is teenager. And the interviewees here are adults. That's why they don't know much about BTS (just know that they're famous generally).
In my opinion I believe everyone should serve regardless of their fame
true, a lot of other idols actually enlisted.
Yes , i agree everyone is equal ,even if they are super famous -kudos to them👍- they remain korean citizens who are required to serve their country as south korea is still in a kind of war period like .
@@Anonymous-pp8fc idrk, but namjoon even said they were ready for military thingz
What if I told you bts brings $4.9 billion to the economy of S.Korea?
@@kimmyn1489 bts earns money for bighit cuz bighit is literally a private company
I do not think Asian Boss asked the right question and did not think through of what kind of discourse surrounding Bangtan or KPop, in general, they are creating. The Congressman only used Bangtan as an example as to how the country might need to rethink the kinds of achievement a Korean man needs to achieve to be exempted from military service. So, the question should be exploring that issue: what should be regarded as a worthy achievement to get the exemption, instead of focusing on Bangtan only.
Taehyungie Mullet you’re right
they ONLY FOCUSED on BTS being famous they failed to let the audience UNDERSTAND "WHY BTS SHOULD GET EXEMPTED".
A lot of people in the comments seem to be getting this twisted so let me straighten it out. BTS has never personally asked for exemption nor any of their fans. A congressman personally used BTS as an example of who should and should not be exempt. That's it. Again, BTS nor ARMY has ever said from their own mouths or typed from their own fingers begging for the boys to be exempt. Stop bashing people for what they haven't done.
heyyitsme up!
heyyitsme Some ARMYs actually asked for it and it was annoying af
Army’s asked for it all the time. Some are even considering stop being a fan just because of it. You can’t speak for everyone.
Yeah. Verrrryyyyyyyyyyy few army(I heard it's even far from half a hundred and probably are 12 year olds) made a petition abt bts not serving the military and people always generalize it like it's the whole fandom who begged for it.
orange marmalade I also know BTS would serve regardless. Idk what came up to their minds. I only heard about it tho.
They'll lose their popularity if they wont serve. I swear they'll live mocked by others
yes, people will lose respect for them. International fans might not think it’s a very big deal but they will definitely face backlash in Korea. But, BTS will definitely serve for their country.
Let them know they bring in $4.9 billion to S.Korea’s GDP see if they mock them
Kimmy they bring a lot of money yet they cant even do a military training. Its not like the KPOP industry only rely on them
Jerome Yumang I don’t mind them doing it, but being away for more than year can be detrimental to a singer’s careers.. there are several kpop groups that have sent their members to military and are now falling off. The gov would be fumbling the bag... losing billions.. and the kpop industry is not doing so well tbh.. Reports on several companies just came out and two of the “big 3” had negative numbers in theirs. The only one that was actually thriving was Bighit. If athletes with medals get exempt, I don’t see why BTS couldnt.
Kimmy uhm really bighit was the only one thriving k
I found it funny that even though BTS never asked to be exempted people are always talking about if they should be and make articles about it while there are actually other idol companies that asks for it exemption.
Which idol company asked for exemption .
Areeba Rashid the big 3 and other compagnies
@@samiraayam4230 But why I never see a article like that from big3?
Samira Ayam what do you mean big 3? Bigbang, shinee, suju, exo members literally enlisted lol
Nctzen Sprout i never said anything about the idols. Ofc they served bcz its smth honorable for them. But still there was 5 compagnies who held a meeting and tried to get military exemptions for their future artists who will have to serve in the future. But tbh at the end of the end it depends on the government and if they will allow a law related to that
people are talking about how BTS should or shouldn't be exempt from the military, but BTS have never mentioned anything about it so why should people be having this conversation. Im sure BTS know what theyre doing.
Intaellectual exactly !! Most are antis using this opportunity to trash on Bangtan
It is not about whether BTS want it or not, it is about the new law about mandatory service. Cause the congressman seems to make the new law about this,
Intaellectual well honestly I just think people are scared of "loosing them".
Metsu Belron how are we losing them? And why would we be scared? Most of us would support their decision.
BTS is the group that the new congressman used as a basis for his proposed new rule. That’s why they got dragged into this issue.
People in the comments saying "other idols served, they should too" or "no one's above the law", some of you probably went to the comment section first before watching the video so *PLEASE NOTE THESE FACTS:*
1) Athletes and musicians who place 1st or 2nd in an international competition are exempted - this is a rule.
2) This became a debate topic in Korea because a KOREAN POLITICIAN has mentioned that this rule should expand to more fields, such as actors, b-boying, and yes, idol groups LIKE BTS.
If you watched the video, none of them brought up other idol groups. They brought up another ATHLETE's name to talk about his exception! It's about the rule of exception in korea's mandatory military, not about who's more popular than who!
I swear y'all act like this because it's BTS.
kannequi // BTS would still go even if they were exempt.
I'd feel shitty if I got to avoid service. If anything their service may be delayed.
THANK YOU! people are literally sending death threats towards bts when they’re only an example. they didn’t ask for this.
Ugh your gigantic mind!
Even if Bts was used as an example, the law might not be passed in time for any of them to even be exempt. Also, any Kpoppies of younger groups should be on OUR side, since their idol would have a chance of being exempt! Why is the Kpop community fighting us on this issue!?
Shikanara exactly, also bts has become a face of pride for South Korea. No other idol has brought that much honor and has made that name for themselves why would they exempt them. For future generations this is a huge opportunity, if their idol could achieve unimaginable things.
even korea's richest person Lee kun hee enlisted in the military.
The one who brought great honour to South Korea are exempted and BTS fits the criterias for it as well! I am an ARMY, I'm sad but BTS wants to go to military so I've no reason to disagree
@Kim Ung exactly
Rip lee kun
others: bts should go, bts should not
me: oh he's fiiiiiiine 0:57
IKRRRRRRR 😭
Me too....
Saaaammeeee 👌🏽
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Nah. He's ok. Just average.
Even people who just finished their service were calmly talking about the situation, yet pressed kpop stans, who aren't Korean citizens, and won't be affected in any way by the final decision, are pressed. First of all, they were considering changing the exemption criteria so it'd be fairer to all artists, including kpop groups. This could literally benefit future groups, but y'all don't care just because it's bts. The "argument" majority of y'all have makes no sense. Saying bts should serve just because other groups had to as well in the past it's the same as saying women shouldn't vote now because back then they couldn't vote. Things are changing, get over it. There will be the "first" group who will be exempted. If not bts, another one in the future.Y'all always though it was unfair when your oppars went, that they had no choice. Well, guess what? This could mean progress and benefit other Korean citizens. Just say y'all are pressed bc it's BTS and go
blurrylinesx Finally a decent argument!!!👍
Too long sorry I might have add
The only one here who seems actually pressed is you lmao
I doubt it benefits the average Korean men. I speak as a Korean person. So many celebrities in the past have gone to the military, yet many got special treatment just because of their fame and were places in easier positions.
One's fame should not be the excuse for exemption. Especially since BTS are Korean citizens who are under the Korean army's protection, not some random country like Italy or Portugal.
Thank you
Even if BTS were to be exempted, I feel like they'd still go to the Army because from what I've seen as a fan, that's just the type of people they are.
Suga Has Nice Legs I agree with you
They would get so much hate from other Korean citizens if they got exempted. It would be totally unfair to all of the other idols and celebs that have had to serve in the military
well not all celebs achieved as much as they did
Same. They are proud of their country, they will do it. They know it's not bad.
Tesnim Khlif So what?
Look at all the non-koreans being loud in comments as if they have a say in who goes or not👁️👄👁️
🤣🤣🤣it's funny cuz it's true
I hope bts lose their fame
@@foreveryoungtobeablinkeu8607 We don't want another stupid fanwars starting here thank you.
@@jamie_jaja4ppl371 i hope your faves suffer
@@foreveryoungtobeablinkeu8607 they wont ever lose their fame, we'll always be the biggest fandom.
I think BTS should go. But I’ll pray for them to come back safely
I agree. I'm so scared!! 😭
@@kpopalltheway605 its very safe actually
@@user-fc1rm3vh5t okay thank you
Or you can pray for every solider risking their lives to protect their country to come back safely
@@-mega-3806 alright don't get worked up for nothing, they just said they wanted to pray for bts there's nothing wrong with that
They didn't fully explain what the congressman said which was basically the amount of money that BTS brought in that makes them so vital to Korea. of course, we're not koreans and shouldn't really comment but please don't forget the fact that this is something that has been talked over by /congressmen/ and also relates to the economy. Lastly, BTS themselves, have made no comment of wanting to be exceptions so let's not send unnecessary hate, thank you.
exactly.
Muhammada Suhail its more of bts bringing more interest to south Korea than money, bts, the highest revenue group to the bighit is 30 million dollars making big hit 50+ mil dollars company. But YG,SM,JYP are 300+ millions dollars company. How come the artist there won't get exception too? Its cause bts is a media tycoon.
Finally someone said. They didn't talk about the impact BTS had in economy and tourist and industry and well worldwide news. I personally dont have a opinion about cause I'm not korean but it was obvious that those people lack of information to be talking about it (just as I cause i am not korean just a b-army
Muhammada Suhail Korea was already making billions without BTS so they’ll be fine if BTS takes a break to do their military duties. There no more special than anybody else. It is fair and equal for them to serve just like everyone else. It’s the law. It would be very unethical for BTS to be exempt and it would reek of elitism.
Yes Si
Actually its been reported already that BigHit’s net worth is the company with the highest net worth currently.. You can check out K-Buzz if you don’t want to believe it✌🏻
I think it would be disrespect to other idols who had to serve in the military.
Not really some of these idols actually acknowledge the impact BTS had on their country. So i don't think some will dwell on it
I agree.
Andria Alexander but they still have to go
Andria Alexander wtf?! They are Korean and they have to serve... nobody cares if they (Koreans) are rich, famous or well known overseas
Avisli ikr. Just because they are famous don’t mean they should be exempted from serving. The boys won’t even want to be exempted. They know they will get lot of backlash from Koreans. They have more fans interanationally than in Korea, and other artist that went are humans too and they had no choice but to go
Knowing BTS and their immense pride for their country, even if they're allowed an exemption, I'm pretty sure they'll refuse it. They'll serve. And they probably will do it together as a group.
They can't do it as a group
Can’t as a group age gap is too wide
Age gap has nothing to do. Every abled man between 18 - 28 are allowed to serve. It's upto them whether they want to serve together or separately
@@ltudu8919 that’s not how the law works
@@FCBchr1sin that case could you please enlighten me about the issue ?
I think that foreigners shouldn't have a say in this.
It's up to Korea if they want BTS to serve in the Korean Army and I think it's up to BTS if they want to accept the exemption.Because even if they exempt BTS from the Korean Army , BTS could still maybe want to go serve their country. It's just my opinion
Kayasha Fraser THANK YOU!!!! Koreans ourselves are being VERY cautious about this issue and making opinions. I don’t get the freakin reason why foreigners are SOoooo SURE about their opinions and facts.
People are just giving their opinion.... nobody in the comment section thinks they have a say I this. And if they think they have a say they are probably under the age of 15 or sum thing
Alyah Westra Giving their opinions on an country’s whole culture and law enforcements when they know only of their Kpop knowledge... I’m not saying that they are trying to be ignorant nor mean. But if people aren’t aware of the situation, don’t state opinions. Sorry I’m just frustrated how some comments are judging our whole country because their idols are gonna be gone for 2years.
you can't choose whether you want to serve or not in Korea It have been an obligation for every single men in korea since the Korean war. I'm quite sure it will be better for bts to serve in the military for just twoyears rather than rot in jail for many years
김잉 completely agree. I’m american and I’m trying not to say anything stupid because I don’t know much about the culture or society or what the politics are. If I’m stating my opinion then it’s just about what I would like to happen based on the very little knowledge I have
To be honest, me and all the Armys will feel sad when BTS goes to the military. Maybe, if they will be exempted from the serving in the army but I definitely can say that they will continue to serve in the army like all the normal men in Korea.
I AGREE
I think they should lessen the time like a year that way they serve the military and they won't be gone for a long time (idk)
But not all normal men serve in korea a lot of people have got exempted why can’t bts can? They contributed to their country way more already
N GUY i have all the rights to decide to listen to any kind of music I like. Talking like you means discrimination about countries. I do support my country also listen to other kinds of music in the world
Stop talking like that.
Yea, I think they will serve but honestly I just want them to do what they wanna do. That soccer fan annoyed me so much when he has no idea about BTS
Some members of EXO are doing their service right now and it would be unfair if BTS was exempt from their service.
So true
Why? Bts did more for the South Korean economy and that’s the reason people are actually talking about whether or not they will serve, I don’t see why it would be unfair when bts bring billions of dollars to the SK economy AND make South Korea more known around the world.
@@MoonChild-is3pl yes bro 👍👍
@@MoonChild-is3pl you shouldnt speak for them
exo the best! so proud of em despite their popularity they set it aside to be fair to all idols🙂 the fact the they never boast their achievements and just quietly obey is something to be proud. NO EXCUSES🙂
I am here after it's confirmed that bts is joining the military, and they'll probably be together again in 2025 well it crushes my heart being a fan, but ig it's what every Korean male goes through and also nothing is permanent in this world, they'll have to disband at some point and focus on their personal lives still it's hard for me rn.
Also made me realise maybe we shouldn't be soo emotionally attached to artists, because the way I feel right now is so real, I feel really vulnerable
If you think about it, it's kind of crazy how attached people get to artists. Like, I LOVE music, but never went nuts over any singer/band. But there's literally thousands of artists out there that we will never get bored. I enjoy BTS but really don't care if they will take a break.... plus they are getting older and u don't see 30 somethings in boybands lol. There may be another kpop boy band to take over their place.... although BTS had worldwide success.( it's hard to cross over in the US!) Anyhow, but while i am not someone who gets emotionally attached to artists i understand u! :). And, you know 2 years goes by super fast and i bet each one will have new fun music out too. So don't feel too bad.
@@clisaa6974 yes I am fine now, I mean they have their personal lives they have to go solo at some point and they really worked their asses offf in these past years they definitely need a break and maybe focus on their life, I understand it's their life .
1. International fans do not have a say in this. you just dont understand how it works here.
2. BTS themselves would NEVER agree to this.
3. What the congressman said was not whether BTS themselves be exempt. If you listen the broadcast, he was talking about adding changes to the list of exemptions. And used BTS's level of success as an example or measure. His speech was not based on exempting the boys themselves from service.
4. Of course people only saw snippets of what the congressman said OR listened to nothing at all and are listening to online videos and articles who are presenting the congressman's words and the issue itself out of context. And the way this question is framed in this video could come off as misleading to those who have not seen the broadcast entirely No matter what your achievements are or your social standing, if you are a male you serve. I just hope BTS dont get unnecessary hate from people for something they did not participate in to begin with.
Oh my god ugh 🙄 FIRST OF ALL WE INTERNATIONAL FANS ARENT SAYING OH OH HI WE ARE IMPORTANT BLAH BLAH BLAH SECOND YOU CANT READ THEIR MINDS THIRD OMG NO I GIVE UP ALL THE REST OF THIS IS DAMN BULLCRAP
Olivia ARMY What they are trying to say it's that International fans do not really know how the country works, it's mandatory.
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junsun bemybae I'm not even a huge fan of them but I can still have an opinion of a certain country just like I have an opinion of my own. To me i think it makes sense to have people in general serve in the military for 2 years bc they're still at war. But I dont think it should be only men bc its discrimination even if biologically we are stronger. Like in the US all men at age 18 have to register for the draft (If we don't then we don't get FAFSA for college) and it there ever is a war we could potentially go to war just bc we are Male. I think that it discrimination and I wont even be patriotic about it bc I wont be part of war that I had nothing to do with.
AnimeMaxwell ok when i said "international fans dont have a say in this" - i mean the fans that are arguing about this over the internet without knowing the issues over here in totallity. And to also i-fans who are shouting that they want the boys to be exempt and spouting nonesense without fully understanding the gravity of this whole situation. State your opinion after FULLY learning and understanding why this topic is such an sensitive one in our society.
The way I see it foreigners are more offended then us and it just blows my mind how they think they have a say in this and don't understand how things work here...
I’ve seen you comment a lot and even claimed to be in Mexico in one of your other comments, so wouldn’t that make you a foreigner... where exactly is “here” to you?
LAVA M duh I travel every where! :) I lived in Korea for eight years since I was two, then I moved to Miami for two years and moved back(to Korea), and currently am staying in Korea with family but durring the world cup, I with my grandmother, mom, and my sister visited Cancun mexico there was one place we're we heard exo monster and they kept calling us "chinos" and over all it was lovely. (Haha my life story)
LAVA M oh! And before Korea I was born in America ,Miami FL to be specific, so technically I'm Korean American but 🤷 , oh and I'm not fluent in Spanish so I don't now if it's Chino or chinho or chinjo or whatever 😂 I don't mean to offend anyone.
さまんさ ahh ok, it’s easy to get confused about stuff like this online we all have opinions it’s just nice to know where what’s coming from where 👌🏽
LAVA M :)
If you’re not Korean then your input isn’t needed
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I've seen a lots and lots of non Korean ARMYs saying they should postpone and even shouldn't enlist, but people are saying "facts" 🤔🤔🤔
i think that they should all enlist at the same time, then, when they all have finished they should have a massive comeback and world tour
Shoul BTS serve in the Korean Military ?
Me : Yes
Reason : Because they are Korean
I wanna BTS have *pride* and *experiences* as *Korean* *Army* . I don't wanna BTS receive hate comments and disrespect because they don't go to military service in the future. I'll waiting BTS in that 2 years.
It's more complicated than that.
Exactly as half Korean myself I can say the will be seeing as the cowards from kpop who aren't ready to defend their country.
They all go in at different times. I agree they should go to the military but im just saying it wont be two years it’ll be 7.
2 years isn't enough because of their age difference like: if Jin will go on military on 2020 to 2022, Suga will go on 2021 to 2023, Hoseok and Rm will go 2022 to 2024,
Jimin and Taehyung will go on 2023 to 2025 and Jungkook will go on 2026 to 2028; So they will be gone for eight years plus another one year for vacation and comeback preparation. So yeah that's why some fans don't want them to enlist because they will lose so many opportunities in the next 9 years unless the younger members wanted to enlist early to be enlisted as a whole group or just the exemption
Min Mina they can do as other groups did or do (example all Big Bang together, Super Junior divided themselves in 3 parts, TVXQ both did go together etc.)
i agree with the argument of the guy who said it owuld be a waste of talent.. i think its true! if a 27 year old soccer player who is globally succesful has to stop playing for 2 years, it can literally ruin his carreer, since the top clubs dont want someone who didnt play in 2 years.. and at the same time he is contributing more to korea when he plays socceer than him being in the military. so yes, i do think exemptions make sense.
Crys yeah but he can do the two years later when his career is over, athlete careers don’t last long.
It's not true. They have been famous for a good while, and they will only spend like 2 years only, they serve and comeback, simple.
The same argument can be made for BTS. They bring more economy and tourism to Korea as well but the discussion is why the two don't seem to hold the same value. Hitting no.1 on billboard could arguably be the equivalent of winning gold at the Olympics.
The soccer player will end up on the armies soccer team. I recalled serving with pro boxers, college basketball players they went to the armies many teams. One guy a professional surfer was a life guard at the recreational center. The military has places for athletes. Even band and singers, got jobs performing for the troops. The military usually doesn't waste talent. Last year I recall a kpop singer was on a base singing for the troops, a soldier from a boy band was there doing his time. The lady knew him called him up on stage and they both sang to the troops. It worked out ok for psy,Big Bang there now BTS will survive.
Crys How he will serve Korea by playing football? By earning money for himself? By showing that there is good players in SK? (Who care actually ? There is good players everywhere).
BTS is much bigger now and the influence they have right now is unbelievable.
They actually have a BIG contribution to Korea's economy
yeah...no...kinda...? not really though
LITERALLY 1 out of 13 people who travel to Korea COME for BTS, at least what I’ve heard
I dont really understand why they're making this a Big deal.... I mean BTS themselves says that they are willing to serve military if they are called
Easy , The K-pop industry wants to make them look bad in front of the public, the kpopers who are not even Korean also are crying. and if bts were exempt, it would be the excuse to make that the thousand groups were exempt too
@@shiridegurechaff9101 Exactly! Non-koreans are more upset that the koreans! 🤣
As an ARMY, I don't want them to serve but as a KOREAN it is their duty to do so...Every KOREAN boy is born with a fate to serve the military...Just because they are famous doesn't mean they don't have to do what everyone else does...Since everyone of them are not going together, they can serve in military and perform as BTS...Though it is hard to do so but they have to do it
BTS ARMY
In general, I think the mandatory service is stupid. Sure you were trained for two years, but let’s stay there’s a war 10 years later. Would they really know what to do?
The country should also have female do the service too since women are fighting for equality and whatever
Mandatory service isn't stupid.... pull up a map and see how close South Korea's capital is from one of the most hostile countries on the planet. Whether a war happens 10-20-30 years from when they enlisted, they still know more than someone who hasn't. War can break out at any second, anytime. Mandatory 2-year enlistment ensures the country has a fighting chance and has some level of preparedness... and you think it's stupid because a war might not happen for 10 years... did you ever stop to think that war could break out tomorrow? I assume not...
BTS ARMY : I'm I-ARMY. I think it's good that Korea has that rule. I wish my country made it mandatory too. I think all male must know how to defend their country when the need arise. I will feel proud if they do serve but my opinion is not important. It's up to BTS and their country. I'll just support with whatever they decide 😉
Taehyung's tongue Jimin's hair its not stupid
It's not stupid. The first few hours when the war breaks majority of Seoul's population can easily be killed. But I do agree on why Women can't also enlist. WW2 became much more productive to some countries who also enlisted women in the military
Clearly, people need to understand what the politician actually proposed. He said that currently, Korean citizens who have high achievements in classical music or dance are exempt from military service. So by this logic, shouldn't groups like BTS also be exempt? They technically do fit the requirement since they perform well on a global status. The only problem is, BTS aren't classical musicians. The debate about BTS being exempt isn't because of how popular they are. It isn't even about their popularity overseas because there have been multiple groups before them. I agree that Korean citizens shouldn't be exempt just based on their popularity. However, most people need to realize that BTS greatly supports the Korean economy. BTS is currently predicted to have nearly a BILLION dollar impact on South Korea's economy. No other kpop group or singer, with the exception of PSY, has accomplished this, which is why they haven't been exempt. However, PSY was given a special exemption where he didn't have to do regular active service. It was later discovered that he didn't actually participate much in the program which is why he had to face re-enlistment. With a group like BTS that helps represents South Korea to the world and supports the economy this much, it would be a shame to halt their success by 2 years in the middle of their carreers since they have the potential to do more. Reasons like this is why the politician thinks their policies need to be reviewed.
groups like big bang and tvqx also have supported korean economy and helped to increase the popularity of korean wave. bts's success is more evident because of the rise in social media.. gdragon single highhandedly have contributed a lot to kpop industry and he went to military service.
also kpop group after a certain time period wont be the hot topic anymore even if they are successful and they survive on the loyal fan base they made during their peek. groups like super junior, tvqx etc can still fill up a dorm in minutes so 2 year hiatus wont harm much to successful groups. it affects only the groups who are neither too successful nor too unsuccessful.. groups like exo and bts wont get affected much by military service. they already have more than enough fans who will wait for them.
also bts getting excepted from military service will also tarnish their image. majority of the Koreans take military service very seriously and a lot of celebrities who got exception from military services due to health issue had to face some kind of hatred. after a certain point of time kpop idols also need the recognition from general public as well. senior groups like super junior, tvqx, big bang etc are well known among the general public as well.. so exception from military wont be appreciated by majority of the public..
I'm reposting Angela Anastasia's comment:
"Based on IFPI global music report, south korea generates US$494.4 MILLION in 2017 from music industry IN TOTAL. It's not even half a billion, and BTS isn't the only artist koreans have. If you look at the CD selling, there's no way they make anything near a billion dollars.
And... Company value has very little thing to do with their artists' achievement. It's way way more complex than that. And there's no waaaay at all, big hit worths a billion dollars. Their company value in 2017 is around 57million dollars (source : forbes).
Yes, i copy paste this to every comment who claim that bts made a billion. I like them a lot, really, but that number is just wrong."
it's not my comment dumbass, people are saying "BTS is currently predicted to have nearly a BILLION dollar impact on South Korea's economy" which is false.
+Warken It's not false, just look it up. Many, and I mean MANY trusted sources have predicted this. I'm not saying Bighit is worth a Billion. but with taxes, they SUPPORT the economy by nearly a billion dollars. BTS doesn't only earn money just by selling their songs. Most of their profits come from concerts and merchandise.
Drake net worth is 100 million according to times, 1 billion is 10 times that.
BTS in no way, shape or form have earned 1 billion dollars.
Show me your trusted sources.
I know that there was an instagram post or twitter post going around saying that they earned that much, so i know why may think that. But that's false information.
To all the people hating on BTS and ARMY for this issue, kindly know why this topic arose! Usually the Korean people who bring honour to Korea, like the Olympic medalist, some honourable pianist or violinist, I guess got exempted from military! If you think about it, BTS is bound to be exempted if the certain areas are concerned! BTS are the youngest and the only idols to receive the national award from the President himself! BTS brings about $4B to Korea's annual economy! BTS is included in Korea's national anthem video! Even the president, former president tweeted when BTS got #1 on billboard hot 100 and success for Dynamite! BTS spoke at UN! The parasite director himself said BTS has 3000 times more influence on spreading Korean culture worldwide than him( though parasite won great awards)!
I'm not saying BTS must be exempted, BTS themselves have already said they'd want to serve their country if given chance! This is a sensitive topic so they'll go when they're summoned! So stop hating on BTS and ARMY!
Please don't compare BTS with any other idol groups!
uhmm i pretty sure the government has said that BTS will not be exempted and them them-self said they would serve as its there duty as a korean
@@gavy4306 yes BTS themselves have said that they'd want to serve their country as any other men. But some people still say they have to go, they're just like every other K-pop group, they are nothing special, nothing big, so that's why I wrote this whole thing!
I'm happy BTS themselves are ready to go serve their country whenever they're summoned. 😁
And from I what I heard, recently some high post minister said "for these exemptions, there must be a series of discussion needed" but I guess the discussion or anything regarding exemption is not needed!
They aren't other people. They need to serve in the military. No need to have a special treatment. Simple.
this.
They said they will serve.
while I don't disagree, you're still ignoring the point of them bringing money in for Korea, more than the average Korean could bring in. I'm not even a bts fan btw
@@Mikachu2407 yeah they represented Korea on international platform more than enough so they can be exempted. But they said they will serve in military when time will come!!
@@Mikachu2407 So? They're still Koreans though so no special treatment tbh
I think they should. If we are talking about mandatory. If it is there decision to stay in the army I’m also fine with it. Yes, they’re loved very much, but they’re also Korean citizens and should still support Korea. Many many many korean male idols have done it, and so should BTS. As an army I am concerned for their safety, but it’s not like it’s the first time a kpop male idol has done this. BigBang is in mandatory army right now, and they’re also much loved, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be in the army. Just because they’re BTS shouldn’t mean they’re treated differently.
When life gives you lemon Squeeze them in your eyes people have already been exempt from the military before for small achievements but many people internationally see bts as the face of Korea and obviously that's the issue with this topic, not to mention that they affect the economy with over a billion dollars but even if they got the choice to go to the military or not it's most likely they would choose to go to the military to avoid controversy.
さまんさ Geez I see your comment everywhere. You're always talking about how they affect the economy with over a billion dollars. First off that is absolutely not correct. Do you even math? If they sold 1 million albums that would mean they made a net worth of prob $10million (subtracting labor/manufacturing costs). Each tour they probably make a couple million and every CF together is probably BTS has net worth of 100million? HOW TF IS THAT A BILLION. Lemme tell you something. Even Samsung directors and managers have to serve. And guess what, a couple years ago a top director of Samsung had to server even though he brought in billions of dollars into the Korea economy just himself. Do you think BTS is worth more than Samsung?
If classical musicians can be exempted for winning awards and even football players, it makes sense to me to give the option to pop artists too. Especially BTS because of the huge impact to Korean's global economy and tourism. They made it very far internationally and you can't compare their success worldwide to any other Korean act at the moment. It would be more beneficial to SK that BTS stays instead of serving in the military.
さまんさ I'm an army as well, but you're WAY off by saying they've contributed 1 billion dollars to the economy.
selina || Korea was always successful when it came to Kpop. I will agree, kpop has became very popular with the help of BTS, but it doesn’t mean they’re treated differently or have a “pass” to not go into the army. BTS has made it far internationally and in Korea too, but let’s put it in this mind set. If there where to be a war or a conflict and Korea needs new recruits and some of BTS members is at the age of mandatory army they should go. I love kpop and artists, but if Korea is to be hurt or destroyed because of our selfish needs like wanting BTS to not go to the army then that’s how it is. Personally I feel like musical artists and as you said football players should also be required if they’re at age and they’re in the right physical condition.
I’m not from South Korea, nor do I know its customs, laws and policies. I do think it’s a thing of nationality. In other countries its voluntary, but in this case it’s mandatory. If all other groups had to do it, I don’t think they should be exempt. But lemme mind my business, I’m just a simple Brooklyn girl, this has nothing to do with me.
shevonnie salmon Kayasha Fraser THANK YOU!!!! Koreans ourselves are being VERY cautious about this issue and making opinions. I don’t get the freakin reason why some foreigners are SOoooo SURE about their opinions and facts.
김잉 I don’t know what’s going on. I’m just an outsider looking in lol. There are other factors that go into this I’m guessing. But who but God knows. I didn’t wanna offend anyone so I was just like “lemme mind my business” 😂
김잉 people think bc they’re a fan of BTS then they should automatically give an opinion. Idk I think ppl should just shut up and see how it all plays out.
shevonnie salmon Ikr or at least be cautious about their opinions :( they just spitting out like everything they “researches” on twitter is the only true facts out there
I dont live there either. However I live in a country where the military service is mandatory to men as well!! Sure men know what to do when we have to go to war but then again we dont have any real great men in our country who put our country to the map either. Its different with SK and BTS. They contributed to their country like this and will do more in the future if they only let them.
I'm fine either way. Knowing the boys they'll probably do what they're expected and WILL go to the military no matter what their government decides.
But if the SK congressman is talking about it then why are the people so against it.
Dont they STILL know how famous BTS is and all the things they've done??
Still???
That's what was surprising for me in that video tbh. They're not *just* BBMA winners.
Sigh.
That only shows how the news are still doing BTS dirty in SK 😐😑
To everyone saying its not fair to other idols, they need to understand every other kpop group is not BTS. No one has reached the peak in kpop where ministry had to think about sending an idol group to complete their service. We support them anyway and all these pressed kpop stans need to know that IT'S BTS WHO IS GOING TO MILITARY, NOT ARMY. And I don't see any other group or artist bringing 1 trillion+ wons to the country by just releasing ONE SONG. So it's pretty obvious for the ministry to rethink about the country's pride 👁️👄👁️
Shiwani Adhikari they should still serve,btw that’s not how it works
@@curiositykilledthecat2468 chile, no one is saying they shouldn't, they themselves have said they will serve. Its about delaying the time 🤡
@@curiositykilledthecat2468 we know how it works👁️👄👁️ and you know what after GETTING NO. 1 IN BILLBOARD HOT 100 FOR 2ND WEEK TOO it won't even matter if they don't so stfu. Korean men don't have problem with it why are you pressed?
Lee kun-hee is waving this dude have the largest phone factory larger than Iphone
So true ppl just don’t understand
Equality should apply to all the citizens.
Yes
Oh my..
I hate RUclips comments.
Everywhere
REALLY EVERYWHERE
are people who fight with each other. They call other people stupid when they don't have the opinion like them.
Everyone has to explain everything.
I'm sick of reading that.
Couldn't you be more kind to other people?
When someone hasn't the opinion like you just accept that instead of saying that he's stupid or sth else.
Is that so hard?
Ari you are the epitome of World Peace my friend. I have literally read hundreds of hate comments in the last 5 minutes and yours is the first that I enjoy, thank you.
Do you know aNnYOnghASeyO? Thank you..
Do you know aNnYOnghASeyO? Same I’m jut reading the comments and everyone is fighting for what reason
Ari exactly what I'm thinking and it's heart breaking, I get having civil discussions but fighting each other isn't moving any boulders 🖤 I just hope everyone can be rational with each other and their opinions 🖤🖤🖤
Unfortunately its not like the people who ypu mean who comment on youtube videos have common sense, everythings a life or death situation.
I've made a similar comment before but a lot of people didn't get my point. So here's my take on this whole situation. It's long (like an essay) but that's because this is a very touchy subject that can't be solved with an uneducated comment like "It's not FAIR if BTS doesn't serve if other famous celebrities like [xyz] have."
1 - Currently, Korean citizens who have high achievements in classical music or dance are exempt from military service. So by that logic, shouldn't groups like BTS also be exempt? They technically do fit the requirement since they perform well on a global status. The only problem is, BTS aren't classical musicians.
2 - The debate about BTS being exempt isn't because of how popular they are. It isn't even about their popularity overseas because there have been multiple groups before them. I agree that Korean citizens shouldn't be exempt just based on their popularity or the fact that they made it to the Billboards. However, most people need to realize that BTS greatly supports the Korean economy. BTS is currently predicted to have nearly a BILLION dollar impact on South Korea's economy. No other kpop group or singer, with the exception of PSY, has accomplished this, which is why they haven't been exempt. However, PSY was given a special exemption where he didn't have to do regular active service. It was later discovered that he didn't actually participate much in the program which is why he had to face re-enlistment.
3 - For those of you who didn't actually read my previous point and start commenting on how BTS doesn't have a net worth of a billion dollars.... please read my comment thoroughly next time. ECONOMIC IMPACT is about how BTS’ presence impact the economy in Korea, not how much money they make. Their impact can also be an indirect contribution. BTS has brought Korea's brand name on the global level, which allowed more people from all over the world to be aware of Korea and hence contributed to the increasing amount of tourists to Korea.
4 - This suggestion wasn't made before with famous groups like Super Junior or Big Bang, which was sadly unfortunate. However, it is being brought to the spotlight now. Why does it matter if BTS are the first celebrities to be exempt? (It's not like they don't deserve it. In fact, they would be perfect representatives to be the first group to be exempt) If BTS isn't the first to be exempt from military services, then another group will eventually be in the future. If not, then this same cycle will continue forever because fans of different artists will say this isn't "fair" much like what MOST of the people down the comment section are saying now. I know it sounds moral to say special treatment isn't equal, but FAIRNESS comes before EQUALITY. (Search up the difference if you don't know)
5 - With a group like BTS that helps represents South Korea to the world and supports the economy this much, it would be a shame to halt their success by 2 years in the middle of their careers since they have the potential to do more. Reasons like this is why the politician thinks their policies need to be reviewed. I know 2 years may not seem like much for loyal fans, but this can really slow down BTS' success since they're at the peak of their careers. Also, keep in mind that there are big age gaps between the members meaning fans won't get to see all 7 members at the same time for more than 2 years (which can ruin their success). At the end of the day, South Korea's economy will benefit more if BTS continue with their careers right now then to have them as 7 more soldiers in the army that SK can surely do without.
6 - Finally, as an ARMY, the exemption probably won't stop BTS anyways. You can tell from their personalities that they would probably want to serve anyway, which is fine. I'm just saying that they should be given the choice to serve and not forced, considering how much they helped with SK's economy. Heck, they don't even need to get exempt. Maybe shorten their time to 6 months or delay their service when their careers is over or died down. Whatever helps the economy better.
If you actually read my very, very, very long comment.... then thank you. You actually had the patience to read through this whole comment and to that, I commend the.
I would also like to mention that 2 years can also endanger their voices. "Singers train their voices like athletes train their bodies. A voice does lose form without training like how a body does. It requires warm-ups and daily training. Singers spend years training their voices and practicing how to sing until it comes naturally to them. 2 years without singing is a huge setback for a singer too. Same with the dancing. Some of these guys have been dancing their whole lives and the others for 7-8 years. Not to mention the training necessary to be able to sing live and dance hardcore chores at the same time as they do. These guys train like 10 hours a day. So 2 years will definately ruin that?"
I think they will serve anyway. Rm was spotted doing physical check up to serve in the army tho .
No matter how impactful they made the economy they should serve. No special treatments or choices. Many I-Army complain about K-army not treating them like “humans” and as a human male in korea who should be treated normally they should serve. I understand your points but it would bring shame if they don’t serve
+Emmy Sweet
I understand your valid point but think about it this way. BTS has helped the SK's economy greatly. (1 billion dollar impact) Do you think any normal human male in SK has also done this contribution to the economy? Highly unlikely. That's what I'm trying to say. BTS has already helped the economy greatly that more people should be aware of. Isn't it kinda unfair if they also serve the military, making them serve MORE to the economy than an average male? The fact is most Korean males don't contribute greatly to the economy which is why they must do service. However, BTS is different as they already contributed greatly, just not by military service. If this brings shame to South Koreans then that just proves how bad of a mindset they have. It's time for people to be more open-minded on how complicated this system is and actually understand why the politician thinks their policies need to be reviewed.
no matter what fans say yall really think bts, the humble guys they are are just gonna say “im not doing service”??? like think about it its not like bts is gonna say no to the whole world that theyre not doing mandatory military service every korean male has too if they did the might have the backlash of their life.. plus none of us have a say, koreans do it doesnt matter what fans say tbh
BTS exempted? How about K-Drama actors? Korean dramas won’t be famous in other countries without those good actors :))
i agree...but man... korean actors didnt bring 3m+ won to korea's economy..they r not seen as people who paved the way between sk and us
But the President and the former president of South Korea has never tweeted anything about Korean actors nor any other idols other than BTS! It's shows how huge BTS's influence is to Korea!
@@Lobsangchoedon because they did a lot for the Korea's economy
Yes I agree but not AS much as BTS! They bring nearly $4.5B to the Korean economy
True
I think not only bts that give contribution to south korea, all of kpop idol have contribution, its not fair if only bts that can postponed their enlistment.
Exactly. The postponement is a bit unfair and honestly pointless, it sounds like even if they put it off they’re still going anyway. And a lot of ARMYs are talking about how much BTS contributed to SK’s GDP, and while that’s true, other groups/idols have contributed maybe not as much but still quite a bit (Super Junior who contributed to the Hallyu Wave, Big Bang, EXO, etc.) All super popular groups with a large international fan base, yet they still served their country. BTS is no different from them
@@missmaamgoinham i agree. Plus, Kpop is already know in Asia and most of the US even before BTS. It's very unfair for them to be exempted.
wae tho it’s not about what groups are popular or etc and who has a large international fanbase but other groups never did what Bts did not one single kpop group did what Bts did not even BIGBANG or EXO and theses groups are some of the biggest and most successful boy groups so you have to realize Bts brings in billions and trillions of money to south Korea’s economy alone by themselves and if they do go to the military I hope they do Korea’s economy it’s going to fall down pretty bad tbh also hearing from a Korean person myself say that a soccer team all got exempt from military duties because they won World Cup and because they already represented the country so the government decided that they didn’t have to go and also Korea’s government are actually the ones bringing up Bts being exempt from military services not armies or international fans Korea’s government brought it up so yeah
@@k_.2659 "Any Man Who Must Say 'I Am The King' Is No True King"
y’all just imagine jungkook in the military 🗿
taecmr hi I wish time flew by fast at school
😂
Aw
He’s be in and out in a second
I did and i regret imagining
In my opinion, I'm a person of standards. So to me, if their law is for every man to serve two years, then every man should serve 2 years. Period. All these exemptions just ruin the whole purpose of the law. However, since there are exceptions for people who represent Korea well, and if Korean citizens THEMSELVES dont really care whether bts serves or not, then I do not see the point in being angry about it.
Yeah if other people that don’t even have half the impact or bring half the money bts brings to Korea can exempt, why bts can’t? Right now they in the corner of going mainstream? How would SK benefit at all?
It's true though. Most people who gets bothered or angry about this issue are international fans and netizens. K-netizens themselves doesn't bother
Actually those who proved to make Korea proud - for example, athletes who got into semi final in World Cup or Olympic or Asian game, or classical musician who won the contest - got exemption. That is why people suggest BTS needs to get exempted because no other Korean people encourage foreigners to learn Korean culture or language.
@Ilham .abdil bts is one of the most popular boyband of all time,no Korean or Asian groups past or present is close to their success. no one was more popular than bts. Do ur homework properly before talking. U r insulting the bangtan gods when u say, there was a lot of kpop idols more popular than bts before. No one had make an impact overseas like BTS. past kpop artist barely got into the top 200 billboard at low numbers n hardly sold some concerts whereas for bts no. 1 is nothing n worldwide stadium tours r sold out like hot cakes
@Ilham .abdil I agree that there was a exposure of Korean culture by others n it impacted mainly asian countries but it barely made an impact in the rest of the world like Europe, America etc and is not
Worth giving credit n also their influence was not that positive
I wish they can serve together, instead of them having a specific date, because if they all serve together for the same amount of time, they can come back and continue be BTS together! If that is allowed :(
Yeah it would be nice but there’s a problem. Let’s think about it this way if all members leave to serve in the military and no one is there left out in the public to continue making music then there is a high percentage their popularity would drop. So atleast one person’s gotta stay and keep the name BTS active
@@f3licity no if ARMYs are loyal they'll wait for them and its more beneficial if all of them enlist together cuz it'll take 8 yrs for them to reunite and it'll harm their popularity as well as fanbase 😊💜
@@binaaale8970 yeah but not all fans or montly listeners may not be loyal ARMYs. As optimistic as being a "loyal army" sounds, BTS still needs to be somewhat active to keep up with the music industry or regular listeners. 2 years without any content from the BTS will surely hinder their popularity status, and they may never reach back to the top.
@@binaaale8970 while 7 years may be pretty bad too, atleast the group or what's left of the group can produce tracks in the meantime. Both sides have their negatives, so the answer isn't so clear cut.
@@f3licity it's better if they have a comeback after 2 years instead of waiting 8 years they'll be 30 or younger jimin said he wants to be having kids at age 30 I honestly think they'll drop music at that age
They are already serving the ARMY tho 😂
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Only koreans and government can decide that not us international fans
Outtaspace_9795 Bleh Korea’s democratic republic so the korean citizens also can decide since it’s their country
(Not at OP comment) If only Korean government can decide, then yall Korean and international fans should stfu and don’t get butt hurt when BTS actually gets exempted, but I guess it’s always BTS’s fault, even if y’all fail your classes in school, it’s BTS’s fault, they get hated on just for exhaling.
not even regular koreans. korean congress can. its kind of dumb how uneducated stans are trying to prove this right or wrong when theyre not even familiar with the roots of korean culture besides kpop
male korean. Korean woman have no right to talk about this
Is this person for real? Korean fans dont have a say in this. Only the Korean government
I'm an army. and i do think BTS should serve in the military. They are still normal korean men aside from their music career. Other Kpop idols are having to serve in the military, GD is serving right now. They shouldnt be exempt just because they are famous, thats unfair.
loveroffandom yes, I agree
agreed 10x
It's not that but BTS are contributing to an entire country's GDP!! no other idol I know is helping the economy that much. So many people are learning Korean and wish to visit Korea, myself included.
And the congressman used them as and EXAMPLE. He didn't explicitly say that they SHOULD BE exempted.
Well it's their choice but they are in the prime of their career now and it'll be hard to reach this position again.
No matter how much income they contribute to the country it’s still considered fair to serve
no matter how broke Korea is , tons of thousands people are always having interest in going to Korea & stuff , they should have income for it , sorry but this kind of law doesn’t really exist in the states & Singapore
A law is a law LOL
@@meredithkoh6341 the tons of thousands of people you're referring are most likely interested because of BTS.
I know a law is a law but then why exclude the Olympic players and the national level award winning musicians? Like them BTS have also win awards that too at an international level
It made me tear up because I am a recent army and the fact that they will disband is tragic because though I have been a fan only for months now I connect with them so much because they are such beautiful souls and I want to see more of them after so many years of struggle if they again have to take a setback from what they are doing shouldn't affect what they have achieved that's all I pray for. serving for one's country is not bad not at all and especially when u willingly want to do it. But being away from ur passion after such hard work isnt something I approve of because being a artist is as much of a passion as being a soccer player or athlete is .BTS if u disband we love u no matter what and will wait for your return . Always purple you 💜 your ARMY .
They should just leave South Korea. I'm sure they have enough money to do that.
@@veohWulf13 yeah!!! But then they would face a lot of hate . And no one wants that to happen ☺
@@veohWulf13 for how long have u been an army
Just because they're famous doesn't exclude them from something everybody else has to do.
Plenty of korean businesses make lots of money too, are they getting excluded? No. People can't just draw the line whenever they want.
Can we just leave this on bts ? They know better about it ..we don't have to worry 😌..
I am always with them ...& will purple them forever 💜
good vibes forever The decision isn’t theirs to make. They haven’t been granted anything yet
If it's compulsory military service there is no decision to be made. You go if you're an able bodied male. Even so i think bts would probably choose the military if given the choice. They seem like those kind of people
XxxMarzipanxxX _ and yes this is what I mean tho ...😌
BTS x A.R.M.Y glad we agree
XxxMarzipanxxX _ yeh they’d probably still go ;P
I’m korean and an army and I honestly think they should go. Yeah I’d probably bawl my eyes out and all, but when men in Korea go to military and come back they come stronger and with more knowledge. My dad talks about it all the time and he has really good memories from it. But who knows by the time they have to go the law might change :)
Jimin Seo
Well said
Jimin Seo why can't they decrease it into one year for all Korean men?
So I guess then they too... will be Army
(Please excuse my dumb joke lol)
Actually the reason of us causing this controversy is that BTS at a international level is rising Korea up so if they are serving Korea in this way so people should support their this fielding of serving as well. If just imagine a huge opportunity is coming up for BTS in future which is even gonna rise Korea up through their name and they get enlisted, like everybody now knows that everyday BTS is breaking records and the U.S is everytime up for making them a part of their huge projects, (like recent Micheal Jackson's tribute even but cause of their packed schedule they couldn't participate), which is even such a great opportunity for Korea for working on an international level. They should support them and let them rise Korea in music field internationally. If yet BTS is rising up Korea so much in this music field so Korea and Knetizens should even co-operate and let them stay in this field and continue making their success. BTS is special rest of the Korean Mens serve the Country by enlisting them but let BTS serve Korea at another level internationally.
Well said!
If G Dragon can go then any other Idol can 💁
ikr
its not like bts is the only successful group
FACTSSSSSSS
Who's G Dragon
@@kurapika6218 the 2nd generation kpop king
For those who don't know about military service and kpop idols (males) relationship. South Korea is still under war threat. War can break out anytime there. Since, Korea is comparatively a small country they need big armour and defense. So, they train all men's in Korea for 2 years how to fight and what to do. Basically when a War broke out BTS , SEVENTEEN , STRAY KIDS , SF9 , EXO , NCT, BIGBANG etc ... (Not all idols will be there, only Korean citizens) all will be there in front line of military with guns blazing over their enemy. Remaining idols who are not Koreans and flew away ☠️
Edit: I'm quite afraid about some idols who are still like baby and when the real gun is given in their hands it will be like ☠️☠️.
As much as we don't want them to, it's part if their responsibilities as a citizen of S. Korea.
Ashley not citizen "men"
Sangmok Lee I am sorry, I didn't think this comment out fully. Yes, as a male citizen of S. Korea.
It's their responsibility ... but not if the law is changed, they've brought pride to their country, and the government itself says their exempt. It's not like we're talking about Bts avoiding it or running away, lmao.
Honey 0613 everyone knows they are not running from it. Nothing BTS has done has implied they are running from it. As of right now, with their laws, yes, they should unless medical issue, like the law says. I Love BTS and with the best for them. Also, knowing the guys personalities, they wouldn't try to get out if it. They will do what is right of them.
if their country tells them they need them more promoting than enlisting then what would be their responsibility?
I am not a fan of bts and do not listen to their music, however being from London its evident how prominent their role is in representing Korea and pushing foreign interest. This intrest (yes esp in younger audiences) is and will be continually boosting the economy. Furthermore a two year break (just as an athlete) will most likely ruin their careers and won't have 'no impact'. Anyway final point: at their level of fame its not even safe for them to serve, they are high profile celebrities, discrimination due to their wealth and status is only expected
P. S. Thanks for reading
Follow up: A better proposition is to delay their enlistment
That'll damage their career in Korea. South Korea is still more important for them and who they will always prioritize first.
tbh their careers wouldnt be ruined after a 2 year break. one direction would still be bomb af after 3 years of hiatus? also them not serving would get them a lot of hate in korea and thats always their priority. the tricky thing is that they are different ages and wont serve all at the same time so the hiatus for the group is gonna be longer than 2 years, that could damage the international fame. they have a few years to go before the first one has to enlist tho, so im pretty sure they can enjoy the fame at the top for a while.
You have no idea how patriotic Korea is. And Super Junior served, too and are still incredible popular, collaborating with Leslie Grace. Psy enlisted. They should, too. Fans can wait.
Lola Philipp im sure their career in korea would be fine but depending on how long they can put off the first enlistments aka how much they still have time to grow internationally, their international success could be damaged. if they get to a point of success in the west they can probably do their enlistments and come back and still do great outside of korea, but if they dont get to establish their position properly in the west they might lose the hype and big success there. i think they will be fine in korea. im all for them serving in the military, as a fan of bts.
“Huge fan base in America”
More like the entire world! Also people only focus on America. Why not Canada? We exist as well!
Yeah i agree. There are so many other country's in the world other than America
I would like to apologize in advance,,,,,, but,,,,,, Canada is geographically in America,, North America to be exact,, Do you mean to say USA? ✌
Yes, even other Asian countries as well.....
@@krisstea5864 Yeah that was what i was meaning. I am From Australia and I always feel as though the only place we hear about is China and The USA. I get annoyed because you hardly ever see anything about South east Asia, Africa or other parts of the world.
there are alot of fans in Europe too!!
This is a really interesting debate that I had no idea was happening, so thank you for sharing! I'm an outsider so don't know how much weight my comment has, but I wonder if there could be a compromise or negotiation of served time. Rather than doing a full 2 years, maybe they could do 6 months to 1 year. I really like what one of the last men said, where serving in the army contributes to your growth and development as a person. I think it would also be an opportunity for idols to be role models to their citizens and say, "I know you have to serve, and I did, too. We have this in solidarity." But this way they also wouldn't have to compromise their career or influence the way being gone for 2 years would.
As a Korean man myself whose family has been to the military, I personally think both sides make valid points. I'll be honest and say a lot of ARMYs I've seen have been delusional and disrespectful towards other older Korean idols/figures, but this obviously doesn't apply to the entire fandom. I initially thought it was ridiculous and even insulting to consider this band exempt from service, because for us, it's a civil duty. Unless it's special cases such as cancer/illness, or situations where athletes cannot come back to the country for some time, I didn't see why someone without these circumstances should be exempt. After all, Korean bands typically have comebacks within 1-3 years depending on the company and their policies.
That being said, BTS has made tremendous contributions, and there is no denying that they've spread the word of our country's music throughout America. Am I fan of BTS? Not really, but I do enjoy a few of their songs. Do I think they've done a good job to spread the hype of Korean music? Most definitely. That being said, they're not the only band to do so-- a few other bands have certainly paved the way for us, and because of those bands (a lot of whom are BTS' sunbaenims) including BTS, I'm happy we're getting the recognition we deserve.
Even so, my answer is still yes, they should. Not doing so would be like buying the law with money. They're talented enough to come back strong. Maybe they can have it pushed back later, like it has happened with many others, but for now, I think it is the morally right thing to do.
Let's be real, though. The members of BTS seem like pretty great guys. Knowing them, I'm sure they'd insist on serving anyway, because they love their country as much as the rest of us do. Laws do take time to be passed, and things can't change rapidly based on a boy band's fame, but whatever happens, things will be fine for us.
MH Nam I don't think "buying the law with money" is the correct phrase to use when they are literally self-made artists who got big solely because of their talent and a little bit of luck with social media. That would be saying that other musicians and atheletes are doing the same because no one will know if they had any strings to pull behind. I think the correct way to approach this issue is to set the standard for artists to achieve before they are entitled military service exemption like winning a globally recognized award, the same as all musicians and athletes. After all, they are all representing their country, not mentioning the economical benefits they are bringing in for their country. So, why would you award one person, but disregard another person when both of them had the same achievements?
SY C SY C I never said they were buying the law with money, that was a general statement to say it’s a very similar analogy. Additionally, I already addressed everything you said in my response. If you’re seeing this as an attack to BTS of any kind, you’re missing the point. Athletes and kpop bands are different, especially in the sense that athletes don’t get breaks for comebacks like idol groups do. Even if BTS serve, the possibility of coming back successfully is very strong, especially considering their fan base. This has been an occurrence for even idols who haven’t achieved globally, so for BTS, there wouldn’t be as big of a risk as there would be for an athlete who is overseas and can’t make it back to Korea for an indefinite period of time. BTS also is not the only band to represent Korea. It’s right that they serve unless the new law is implemented officially. I still stand with my opinion; they should serve, and I feel that they’re patriotic enough to do so, but if the law makes them (along with others of similar achievements) exempt, I wouldn’t be against it either as long as it is fair.
to all the people who think that it’s completely fine to make opinions about the issue: for you guys this might be a simple issue of “bts is doing so much good for the country! Let them shine!” But for us Koreans, this is a VERY SENSITIVE issue. Even we(who are more aware of the whole situation) are careful of making opinions because of all the cultural, political problems that is behind it. And it is very frustrating to read ignorant comments that don’t realize it.
Yup i agree with you. International fans should not put their nose in something that they are clueless about.
Well it’s just an opinion not a gun to Korean people’s heads ...I’m sorry if your culture is about stifling yourselves & your opinions or whatever but people WILL discuss & talk about it in other countries...& the internet ...it’s called freedom of speech + human nature
@@judigemini178 i don't think they mean it in such a manner ( at least i don't think so) but it's more like don't make comments on something you know nothing about. I don't think it's stifling others opinions more like cautioning people on what should be said. No hate though just in case you take it that way. Just a friendly conversation
Judi Gemini I’m okay with comments that are curious about the whole situation or state their opinions without being ignorant. I’m just tired of the ones who think they know everything cuz they’ve read a few “articles” on the internet. I think that it’s very healthy to discuss matters like this but if ppl (not specifically pointing the fingers at you) gonna act like a know-it-all who’s actually clueless shut up.
Denisha Explodes into the World Yes! thank you for clarifying!
BTS has always said they are ready to serve when called. They have never asked for exemption. However, I can say that I would never have known much about the culture of Korea if not for them, and I have been exposed to such a rich world of art because of them, that I would be happy if they could continue the work they have been building for 7 years.
Being in a boyband doesn't make them less korean, ofc they should serve, all other Kpop do that, why would they be special?
Cause they have contributed to koreas economy and culture and tourism more than anyone has ever done, hey don't have to be a sports players they are contributing 10 times more than any sports player has ever done, they are doing it in their own way
@@lizaroy3792 but still they need to serve in military service. It's the mandatory of being a Korean citizen.
@@lizaroy3792 or any previous kpop groups. They are a national treasure and are totally in a different league. I am not saying that they should not enlist. When called they will surely go. But comparing them to other groups is totally wrong at every level. None of them are at level with bts, nor will they ever be. Bts have served their country already , just in a different way so if they are exempt from military it won't be wrong in any way.
@Danielle Isabella @Leah Shireen was just explaining why BTS would be 'special.' Not that they shouldn't enlist of course, just that the author of the original comment insinuating that BTS has not done anything 'special' is insulting, as a fan.
edit: oops, i replied to the wrong person lol
Monika Verma no matter what, bts are citizens of Korea and must abide by the law. They will go serve in the military. Periodtt
this is ridiculous. just because they are very famous in Korea and overseas, it doesn't mean they don't have to serve their country. it's their responsability as south korean citizens. big bang had a huge impact in the kpop industry, but they still had to serve the korean army. I'm an ARMY too, and a big fan of BTS, but that's their responsability too. they aren't gods, they are normal people like all the other korean men. so, the obssesed fangirls, stop crying because your oppa wouldn't be with you anymore.
The Real Nicola Sturgeon I agree. we shouldn't focus JUST on bts, but more WHY are only athletes acceptable to be considered for exemption. national prestige can be brought in through other ways besides sports. I think it's important South Korea discusses it more as laws shouldn't be static but should instead be changing with society.
mables SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK IF YOU TRULY RESPECT THEM AS REAL PEOPLE THEN LET THEM LIVE THEIR DUTIES AS CITIZENS
If Athletes are given exemptions for their achievements, then Artists (not only idols) should be given exemptions too
BTS is a huge contribution to SK economy now, it might be a reason why SK is considering exemptions for BTS. In the end, BTS decides for themselves if they really are given exemptions
mables
I completely agree with you
Outtaspace_9795 Bleh
Pardon??
People and fans arguing wether or not BTS should go is giving me a headache. They should go to support their country but they shouldnt or else their career colapses and they stop representing Korea globally. Like if they go, then they go, we dont have a word for it.
(Edit) some people are getting the wrong point im staying NUETRAL in this comment, those opinions I wrote are popular opinions that I've heard its up to BTS and the Korean government and Im not saying that having opinions is wrong either
ok um we're just stating our opinions you don't have to be so pressed ab it. if they do go to the military they will obviously come back together bc its bts. if youre that scared for their careers, then how bout you mind ur own business, its not your career. there are way more groups you could stan and bts isn't gonna stay together forever obviously. and theres also way more groups to represent Korea worldwide like blackpink. so for you to say that the arguing is giving you a headache, why don't you just go to a different video like its not hard what so ever.
ethan h i think you missed the point of OP comment here. He/she is being neutral. I don't understand why you reacting so offensive.
Other groups have to go so why should they be exempt?
If other groups have to go, they should too
They should go. Everyone else has to. And they’re going for their country. If they didn’t go their careers would collapse because lots of Koreans would be annoyed that they got to be exempt when their fathers, brothers, uncles etc. have to go.
I am an Army but I do believe that they should serve the military service. if they are to be given 'no military service'excuse, it should have been given to BigBang first.
I think it's because bts brings billions of dollars to sk economy every year, it's less of that bts is supper popular internationaly and more of that bts was able to bring billions of dollars to sk economy every year, and bts was able to make tens of thousands of people to go to Korea just because of bts, also we are not korea's government so we do not have a say in this, we should just leave it to korea's government to decide, it's their opinion that matters, not ours
If their government let them join the military it's fine and BTS themselves said that they will serve when they are called. To the one comparing himself > DO NOT compare BTS to ordinary people like you, dude like what you said you are ordinary and BTS are not. It's been all over the news in Korea and internationally how much financial contribution BTS are bringing in your country the economic growth they BRING in your country not to mention the PRIDE they're giving....do you considering that ordinary? Yes they are humans too just like you and me but what they do and the results of what they do is NO ORDINARY.
@omelas Nat
Only thing I would like to say to people like you is ; WORTH of an individual is certainly not decided by monetary terms alone. Every individual shares his bit into its country's growth and development.
The rules for exemption has always favored those in athletics and not in the arts. BTS is being used as an example bc where they are does not fit exactly into the only kind of circumstance singers get as grounds for exemption. They have brought $1B into Korea's economy, boosted the tourism industry and have given Korean artists a easier platform to get global exposure bc of their success overseas much of it being 1st's for any Korean Artist. They're not just being considered bc they're popular it's bc their success has been converted into something that has benefited all of Korea. The rules need to be updated anyway bc they're unfair to a lot of those in performing arts professions. BTS don't start serving until 4 yrs from now and even if in that time they achieve something big that Korea can't ignore and they grant them an exemption BTS most likely won't accept bc they're very proud and patriotic men for their country.
THIS.
I see this “bts has brought 1B to Korea’s economy” idea thrown around a lot, but I don’t actually see a source for it? The Minister of Sports, Culture and Tourism said bts has the *potential* to bring in 1B, not that they have already. Am I missing something?
Crystal K Lmao in 2017 alone they scored around $800M, They Have $1B so far because bighit's share value alone worth $1B dollars, The *potential* is to *Surpassed* $1B at the end of the year and Will Likely Happen after their World Tour.
severus severus yeah....that’s cool and all, but do you have anything to back that up besides word of mouth? I know a lot of info is circulated within the kpop community but sometimes it gets exaggerated. If you could point me to an actual website that says that, I would really appreciate it.
Crystal K
Based on IFPI global music report, south korea generates US$494.4 MILLION in 2017 from music industry IN TOTAL. It's not even half a billion, and BTS isn't the only artist koreans have. If you look at the CD selling, there's no way they make anything near a billion dollars.
And... Company value has very little thing to do with their artists' achievement. It's way way more complex than that. And there's no waaaay at all, big hit worths a billion dollars. Their company value in 2017 is around 57million dollars (source : forbes).
Yes, i copy paste this to every comment who claim that bts made a billion. I like them a lot, really, but that number is just wrong.
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Yes they should serve in the military. They are very patriotic of their country and have never stated that they would not do their duty. ARMYS stop whining. You have know that other Idols go into the military they are not different. Wow.
“As I’ve always said, as soon as there’s a call from the military, I will enlist. The members have all talked about this, and we all intend to do the same.”
-Jin
Don't other fans think that they're being a little bit shameless to say that their "oppas" need to be exempted to do their military services? Like it's not their country so to be frank, they don't even have the right to say things like this.
Sheeva Bernan THIS
If classical musicians can be exempted for winning awards and even football players, it makes sense to me to give the option to pop artists too. Especially BTS because of the huge impact to Korean's global economy and tourism. They made it very far internationally and you can't compare their success worldwide to any other Korean act at the moment. I'm not Korean but Policians themselves discussed that it would be more beneficial to SK if BTS stays instead of serving in the military.
selina people are forgeting that exemptions of military service exist already. i agree with u, but i am not korean so only korea will decide. i am seeing lots comparing bts with other kpop idols, but bts is doing so much more for the economy and everyone should remember that.
Sheeva Bernan dood dont day the word oppa it’s so cringey
thais army 'BTS is doing much more for the economy' bs. Other groups and companies pay way more tax and generate more revenue through sales than BTS has ever done. That argument is invalid af. Just stop thinking that BTS is better than everyone else. Because they are not.
I believe BTS will serve in the military. Why ? Because they are BTS. You know what I mean ?
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As an army I don't want them to serve but I know they want to so I respect their decision
It would hard for us armys to go through a time without BTS but if it's their wish army would be happy and still love them.
even if they didnt have to go my boys would 99% still go.
Haha no they would't
Jesper how should you know this ? Have you talked with them that they won't do it ???
Jesper even namjoon go to a military check up
Brigitta cavielle Every Korean man has military check ups by law. It’s nothing special
You bet that 😂😂😂
International people can't actually have a say in this, cause its THEIR LAW, it doesn't matter who you are as long as you're a South Korea citizen. Sure, BTS has break boundaries that no other group ever did, but rooted doen, they're still South Koreans. And BigHit actually put out a statement that they will serve like any other citizen.
Isfarina Sarosa you also have no say in this matter
It doesn't matter whether you're international or Korean. Everyone has an opinion, and we should be free to express ours, like u did. They are South Korean men etc, but many such athletes or people who play a big part in representing the nation, are exempted from the military. international people can say what makes South Korea most significant for them, and I personally had never heard anything that represents South Korea before BTS. Sure, sportsmen and women do represent Korea, but BTS plays a big part in Hallyu. They would do more benefit to Korea in those two years in their company than if they went to the military. A shortage of seven men isn't much.
Jimin Hath Jams a shortage of seven men isn’t much haha. As a South Korean man waiting for his duty starting this August, your statement upsets me. I and other men are sacrificing our youth to protect our country because it is the constitutional law that bounds us to. Excuse me but your opinion doesn’t really matter, as long as the law tells us so.
@@Tactac625 I don't want it to matter. It's just my pov. And I'm just explaining it. Even if they do go, I wouldn't mind, because they're just following the law. I respect the citizen's sacrifice for the country, and even your opinion is a great argument to mine. I'm not saying anyone is wrong or right, I'm just sharing my opinion. Good luck on your enlistment. 💜
@@Tactac625 the differece is that BTS is still bringing trillions into S. Korea economy unlike a normal citizen. If they need to serve they should wait another 4-5 years when BTS momentum drop or if there is another group who comes after them and able to contribute that much. I personally think BTS should serve and Jin also said hinself if he is called then he will go. But I still think if they go, they should go in 5 years after their popularity drop. S. Korea should utilise BTS popularity while they can.
If bts are really going to the military we army should be happy for them even if we cry because when bts cryed they still put a smile up for us now we need to do the same..bts might leave but that dosnt mean there 100% gone we still can play there songs/be there fan forever we may be hurt when they leave but this probably will hurt bts more then us so lets be proud of them..bts will still be there and army will to 😭😃 let's enjoy them now and stop thinking about this 👍😃❤
I think only 1 or two will be gone at a time. The others can still perform and put music out. I think big Hit would rather have a few BTS rather than no BTS at all.
I will miss them when it’s their time to go, but I’ll never forget them💜
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@@Gamefinity101 woah there! Calm down!
How can y'all misunderstand the issue so bad? The talk was about equality in their country and how it should be enforced. The specific case here is exemption. In Korea, people in certain fields get exemption IF they have a huge impact and represent the country, but this applies to a few fields only. There are other fields with people making Korea proud and bringing a positive influence home in terms of rep and money, but they don't get exemptions because they don't belong to that small selection of fields.
BTS are breaking huge barriers and doing a lot in terms of worldwide rep, and they've brought huge benefits economically speaking. They're a movement that people scramble to replicate because of how many benefits they bring with them. Hell, the President wrote them a letter to thank them for it. So BTS are an example of somebody deserving an exemption because it is more beneficial for Korea if they don't dissapear for a few years in order to do military, but they're not able to be offered one bc they're not part of the fields which for now allow for such a thing.
The talk was about changing that and BTS was an EXAMPLE.
Now to the question:
Do they deserve it? Obviously.
Will they accept if they're offered an exemption? That's on them and I won't sway one way or the other like some fans do when answering, bc we're not in that situation and we're not them.
They deserve to be presented with the choice, though, as well as other people that are bringing benefits to Korea but whose efforts are not recognized enough, like those of a pianist for example, to warrant such an offer despite it having the same, if not more, value, and that's an unfairness present in the system that should be fixed beyond the issue of BTS going or not going to the army.
alyilen i do like what they do but it’s only music i would love them to be a better exemple and serve the army it’s not about bringing money or any of that everybody is working hard not only bts (love them) but we need to be more mature and understand that they will not always sing it’s only a period of time
About the fields, isn't art one of those fields?
True.... Misunderstandings and assumptions should be avoided in handling matters of the country and its citizens.... It is what causes assumed opinions.... People should be unbiased and not be purposefully bashful.
Thanks.
Have a nice day😊👍
Oumnia Ladraa
You really have no concept of the importance of what they're doing. In such a situation, the honor of going to the army is just a myth. Most ppl don't want to go anyway, it is forced on them. What honor there is in that? But that's more my pov and the honor thing is yours. Let Koreans decide what brings more honor and if they get the offer, let BTS decide whether the go or not.
alyilen They are also Koreans.
That last man said it well. He has benefitted from the Army. I think if the stars dont get to experience that which all other men must experience, then they will be missing out on the normality that is every other Korean man's life.
You know how humble the bts are, i think they will not like it be exempt. They will serve there country so still an honor for them.
If your still a korean citizen you should serve in the military, plain and simple, just because BTS are Billboard Artists doesn’t exempt them from doing what they by law have to do.
As if it's just because of Billboard. If classical musicians can be exempted for winning awards and even football players, it makes sense to me to give the option to pop artists too. Especially BTS because of the huge impact to Korean's global economy and tourism. They made it very far internationally and you can't compare their success worldwide to any other Korean act at the moment. I'm not Korean but Policians themselves discussed that it would be more beneficial to SK if BTS stays instead of serving in the military.
selina
Bruh, you just say the same thing over and over. Look over the rules. some of those football players have serve military time and there are certain things to get exempted from it. Samsung, a company in Korea, shouldn’t the workers get exempt too because they impacted the economy of Korea more than BTS? Big Bang is doing their time right now, so why can’t BTS do it? It’s their duty to serve the country.
Golly, it’s not the end of the world.
likey please dont be rude.
Kanekiuchihaken A
Bruh, serving for the military doesn’t mean you serve for war or violence, what logic did you come up with that? They’re just serving for the military and their country because they’re technically still at war. Law is a law, if you don’t follow it, you’re a criminal, simple as that. I would rather see them serve than go to prison. Your use of analogy is horrible, colleges cannot forced you to drop out, colleges just want their money. If colleges do that, there’s no point of going to college and colleges will disappear due to lack of money. They have a chance because of fans, other groups can have exposure too if they are given the same platform as BTS. Workers that work for major companies in Korea should get exempted too, they generate more money overseas that BTS like Samsung, Hyundai, Kia etc., they might not be popular by sure do help a lot in representing Korea. So no, they should serve, they’re citizens and should be treated like one when it comes to serving.
PSY did way more than BTS honestly, he was actually known by the general public, like BTS is gaining fans and that's awesome but besides their fandom nobody knows them. So the "no act can compare" hum, try again.
i don't think bts should be exempt from the military service. there are many kpop stars who promoted / promote south korea overseas and had great success and they still had to / have to go through the service. i think it's fair
Lizardus III. Yes rational voice here
Lizardus III. Very Rational
I don't know because bts is the first kpop band who got a first place overseas so it would be fair for them to be extended
Lizardus III. ( it is very true that a lot of other KPOP stars have gotten great success overseas but bangtan has reached higher success than any other korean artist and should at very least be considered)
Schila r first place in what? Because there have been a few groups who have already won international awards and have been acknowledge by the us music industry, but are currently serving or are about to enlist soon
I say BTS contributed to Korea’s tourism and economy
Who’s with me?
Edit: jk! I think that every Korean man no matter what should serve, it’s their responsibility as a Korean and I’m very glad that they r going anyways. Just hope that they’ll come back safely:) plus the exception is for athletes who compete for the nation, which is very different in BTS’ case as they were created not for the nation but for their own interests, it just turns out they got a huge influence. If they got an exception, Korea’s companies like samsung could’ve got an exception too as Samsung is such a huge brand. So although it’s kinda sad to see them leave but I believe it is what they should do
Great point.
Even they are korean but many of them dont think that bts didnt done that much thing for korea or didnt think that BTS is always represent koren so....
I heard that in korea social they always look down on idol and especially look up to athlete sooo much because they make other people know about korea(even some idol or some single do that too like psy, i think psy is the most famous korean) That might true..