The start of a triangle Then liam marries steffie and its hope he turns to every time there is the slightest hiccup with him and steffie And steffie and hope, Let liam string them along for years. Years.
True, he never stopped either. But what can you say, they are best friends. And in this case, he wasn't looking for Steffy. He just went to get a drink and Steffy was there
The problem is..Liam is a whimp..and weak,horrible character,back and forth between two " girls",for 30 YEARS!!😅😂😅😂😂😂😂,what a joke!!😂😂,I mean..who would put up with that!???😂😂😂😂😂
@@אילייןלוי Brooke and Taylor. They too have been fighting for one man for majority of their lives. That's pretty much what this show is about. Love triangles lol
Liam made it clear to Steffy that he was going to marry Hope, yet dances intimately with Steffy. Remember Liam was looking at pictures of Steffy, so he was already drawn to her. The dance just solidified the connection. What HE does about that is on HIM. Liam is in the relationship and now knows this woman wants him. The ball is in no ones, but Liam court.
Absolutely agree. Steffy made it clear to Liam that she wanted him. If he was so committed to Hope, he should have shut down any type of sparks between him and Steffy and kept his distance from her...but he never did. Instesd he allowed himself to fall for her
Why does the whole family needs to know about Hopeless losing virginity??? It’s not of their business... the next time it’s happened, Brooke even came to cook breakfast for them... talk about boundaries 😂😂😂😂😂
LOL yes steffy should have gone after someone who isn’t involved… But 😂 then you wouldn’t have a show to watch. If the writers hadn’t put Steffy into Hope and Liam’s orbit they would have bored the viewers to death… Steffy brought in a sizzling storyline. Hope and Liam would never have lasted as soap characters if not for Steffy. Bell Jr saw the chemistry between these 3 especially between JMW and KM… they were brilliant together.
All Taylor did was encouraged her daughter to "follow her heart" just like Brooke always preaches to her daughter. And it worked out for her. She truly fell in love for the first time and became a mother for the first time
Why is Brooke letting Hope insult her repeatedly? Hope could live her life however the hell she likes without constantly berating her mother for the choices she made for *her* life. Hope go get some therapy for your darn hangups and quit making Brooke your scapegoat.
Ok. Her mom gave her the teddy, shoes, etc that she would wear. Hope telling her mom that she is not like her us true, not disrespectful and not a put down.
What I’ve always liked about Steam is the fact that they were friends first and foremost and they talked about everything... even to this day... Liam always wants to talk to her ....
I don't think you can become hooked in such a short amount of time. Also, if she were truly addicted, she wouldn't have been able to kick them so quickly!
What issues does she have? She wants to wait for marriage. I don't see that as an issue. I see that as commendable. Her issue began when she compromised her values for Liam.
@@Wareaglegirl9960 I guess you have never felt pressured to do something you didn't want to do. I have never met a person who at some point didn't compromise their values and regretted it.
@@maryhafiku3912… and as much as I hate it the writers are trying to put Steffy back together with lame arse Liam in 2023… same old problem, Hope and Liam were always so boring that they either had to bring in Thomas for this new sexed up Hope or have Liam pledging his love for Steffy. They just can’t leave Steffy happily married to Finn. As for Hope, I really want Liam to walk in on Thomas and Hope… she’s never been this hot and heavy with lame arse… would love to see Liam’s face. LOL Hope is finally tapping into her HOEgan side. 😂😂😂 BrHooker would be proud.
Brooke had no business telling Ridge or Steffy that Hope planned to sleep with Liam!! Just like when they actually had sex while he was still married to Steffy! Brooke and Hope felt the need to rub it in Steffy face that Hope was committing adultery!! WHY IS THIS ANYONES BUSINESS
Had Liam broken up with Hope to be with Steffy, it would have been okay. Instead Steffy didn't play fair, she sneaked around Liam, she poisoned him against Hope and at the end she tricked him into marriage in cahoots with Bill. This behavior is unacceptable
I just don't get that. Poisoned him against Hope? Liam wouldn't have listened to anything Steffy said about Hope if deep down he didn't believe that what she was saying was true. And tricked into marriage? He's a grown man who made a choice. If he really didn't want to marry Steffy in Aspen, he could have said no. Steffy didnt drug him or get him drunk. Steffy asked him to marry her and he said "Let's do it".
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi don't forget that Steffy turned to Bill to take Liam away from Hope. That's why Bill sent them to Aspen in the first place, to prevent Hope and Liam from seeing each other. Besides, Steffy asked Bill to stop the gondola when she saw Hope buying the ticket. Steffy knew that Hope was watching the wedding and this was incredibly cruel. She should have played fair, let Hope and Liam discuss. Maybe Steffy would've ended up with Liam anyway, but not like that. As for Liam, I agree that he could have said no, at least until he could meet Hope to find out what happened. Liam's character is extremely weak and I don't like him.
@user-zf5jn6zn2n That is true. Steffy and Bill did collide to break up Liam and Hope and trapping Hope on the Gondola was part of that collusion. I'll grant you that. But the rest of it, thats all Liam. Steffy didnt trick him into falling for her. They both fell for each other the day Liam saved Steffy's life, Steffy was just the one who actively acted on her feelings. And yes, one of Liam's main problems he is never honest with his feelings and tell Hope how he feels. He always acts like everything is OK and just try to bury his feelings. If Liam actually took time alone to sort out his feelings, he would be ok. But nobody ever gets time to sort things out on this show lol
Why the F***, does Steffy think she "understands" every man who is in a relationship with someone ? First she "understood" Bill but Katie didn't Now she "understands" Liam but Hope doesn't Steffy, there are single men on the planent.
Lol the night of his engagement and Liam is dancing romantically with another woman. Poor Hope looking at the ring like everything is OK. Meanwhile Liam falling in Love with Steffy lol
Huge issues. She was just all into bill. Now its liam. And she did the same thing to katie. Talking allllll kinds of smack about katie. Now she is doing the same to hope. Because thats how she worms her way into there lives. And how is taylor encouraging this.
Also the fct that she cant love a man who isnt already in a relationship with someone else. As well as the fact that she is so insecure and the only way she can keep a man is through lies and manipulation. She is the complete opposite of Hope, i mean yeah Hope has lied once or twice, but she has never lied about something really serious, or manipulated anyone. I guess that is becuae she is the target of all manipulations, especially the ones by Bill and Steffy in their plot to keep Hope and Liam apart, in some ways Steffy and Bill are perfect for each other. Thats why Liam is so confusing, I mean how do you tolerate lies and manipulations, and stay in relationships based on them. But hey, thats the bold and the beautiful, I guess!...
Taylor feels bad for Steffy about the engagement, but Hope and Liam were together before Steffy was interested in Liam. And Liam should have more control and stop letting Steffy touch him and make moves by being Steffy and taking advantage of his vulnerability. Sometimes Liam takes Hope for granted and he just lets Steffy make moves, you're marrying Hope, Liam, stop letting Steffy talk trash about Hope and say that she has issues, otherwise you lose her, be respectful of your fiance instead of listening to Steffy and believing that she isnt just saying it because of her hatrid towards the Logans, in particular Hope.
He should have walked away in that moment. He should have told her to keep hopes name out of her mouth. But liam didnt do that. He had started to have feelings for steffie after that kiss. And this was the start of a pattern that lasts for 10 years. Once hope or steffie displeases liam. The other one is just waiting on the sidelines. Ready to bounce on him.
When Hope did the same thing with Wyatt some years later and in the Same place he got a taste of his own medicine. In the end Hope and Liam are THE couple. People can talk all they want about Steam, the real love story is between Liam and Hope. And I’m not denying his love for Stuffy by the way.
I love how the writers rewrite history because Brooke was with Ridge before Taylor even was brought to the show and now they’re acting like Ridge and Taylor were together and then Brooke intervened and that’s not what happened I’ve been watching a show since day one. It gets on my nerves how Taylor always acted so much better than Brooke wish you the one that kept going after all the force a man as well and anyone that Brooke had been involved with like nick
Why does Taylor an Steffie always through the years pick the same men to battle over its crazy an Taylor seems to think its right wen Hope has been going with Liam for a long time. He needs to tell Steffie no an he is only interested in Hope he noes how she was with Bill just asking for trouble
Steffy your life is single no men what so ever what you doing is wrong worry worry it is up to liam to move on to hope you can't stop them leave them 8i mean it stop it now
Liam is a wishy washy guy.Hope deserve better than Liam.Steffy take advantage of talking privacy from Liam and Hope on there wish to wait with sex to the honeymoon.
Taylor you doing it again condoning what Steffy is doing going after an unavailable man the same way you did year's ago by going after Ridge when he was unavailable and together with Brooke
let's just say that staffy sow Liam first and then hope started to involve in there relationship tylar would have jumped to snatch hope and fight with brooke every chance she gets but when it comes to staffy it ok for her to go after liam
Technically, Steffy DID meet Liam first. You'll have to go back to that episode, it's the one where Liam and his sidekick supposedly "fixed": Steffy's computer. But, they didn't, they set her up. Steffy just didn't date him first. I just saw that episode the other day. So....
Steffy did meet Liam first. The very 1st episode with Liam on B&B, it was Steffy introducing Liam as the computer tech guy and he was helping Steffy with her labtop
Oh lord steffy find the opening she was looking for Taylor yesterday steffy was madly in love with Bill now she ave feelings for his son Oh Brooke that's a slap in the face from Hope I think the writer make a mistake steffy should be Brooke's daughter
Liam is not CELIBATE he had sex with Amber when she was pregnant with Marcus baby and Steffy on the other hand have a lot of talk with kissing, touching, tenderness, and she's not afraid to have sex but she's still a virgin just like Hope, so Ridge needs to demand Hope and Brooke to back off Steffy.
This was a start of a pattern of Liam always turning to Steffy whenever him and Hope have problems.
The start of a triangle
Then liam marries steffie and its hope he turns to every time there is the slightest hiccup with him and steffie
And steffie and hope, Let liam string them along for years. Years.
True, he never stopped either. But what can you say, they are best friends. And in this case, he wasn't looking for Steffy. He just went to get a drink and Steffy was there
The problem is..Liam is a whimp..and weak,horrible character,back and forth between two " girls",for 30 YEARS!!😅😂😅😂😂😂😂,what a joke!!😂😂,I mean..who would put up with that!???😂😂😂😂😂
@@אילייןלוי Brooke and Taylor. They too have been fighting for one man for majority of their lives. That's pretty much what this show is about. Love triangles lol
Liam and Steffy is starting to heat up
STEAM was magic!! IDC what anyone says! I love the last scene...the song was PERFECT 😍
The song is called, "Arms," by Christina someone. I can't think of her last name. I love that song, too.
@@traciepfalz6820… the singer is Christina Perri.
@@OlgaQLD yeah, ty.
Liam made it clear to Steffy that he was going to marry Hope, yet dances intimately with Steffy. Remember Liam was looking at pictures of Steffy, so he was already drawn to her. The dance just solidified the connection. What HE does about that is on HIM. Liam is in the relationship and now knows this woman wants him. The ball is in no ones, but Liam court.
It just goes to show he only wanted to marry hope you get sex. And he knew he didn't trust himself around steffy
And oh boy did he take that ball and run with it all the way to Aspen with the lovely Steffy
Absolutely agree. Steffy made it clear to Liam that she wanted him. If he was so committed to Hope, he should have shut down any type of sparks between him and Steffy and kept his distance from her...but he never did. Instesd he allowed himself to fall for her
if liam wasnt interested he would have walked away but he let Steffy get close
Even this night with Steffy was way more magical than Liam’s own engagement lol.
Why does the whole family needs to know about Hopeless losing virginity??? It’s not of their business... the next time it’s happened, Brooke even came to cook breakfast for them... talk about boundaries 😂😂😂😂😂
Brooke is too much sometimes, as much as I love her
😂😂😅
Taylor should have never encouraged her daughter to go after a guy who is involved with someone else.
Why ? The Logans never did right !! So why should Taylor's kids show.any respect .
Karma is a b
LOL yes steffy should have gone after someone who isn’t involved… But 😂 then you wouldn’t have a show to watch. If the writers hadn’t put Steffy into Hope and Liam’s orbit they would have bored the viewers to death… Steffy brought in a sizzling storyline. Hope and Liam would never have lasted as soap characters if not for Steffy. Bell Jr saw the chemistry between these 3 especially between JMW and KM… they were brilliant together.
All Taylor did was encouraged her daughter to "follow her heart" just like Brooke always preaches to her daughter. And it worked out for her. She truly fell in love for the first time and became a mother for the first time
Liam character was bring in for Steffy. Liam was rebound after she broken up with Oliver
Hope always tried to live a fairytale and if you’re not perfect then Hope gets pissed off and runs away
Hope is sick just like her Mother.
yes , she wants a knight shiny armor
I agree with Ridge, its none of anyone's business
Well damn!! The way Dope gave it to her mom was classic 😂😂
Hope is a little girl that's why Steffy got him. Hope grow up
Hope is not a little girl. She is a woman with values, unlike Steffy.
STEAM ❤️❤️❤️
Why is Brooke letting Hope insult her repeatedly? Hope could live her life however the hell she likes without constantly berating her mother for the choices she made for *her* life. Hope go get some therapy for your darn hangups and quit making Brooke your scapegoat.
Ok. Her mom gave her the teddy, shoes, etc that she would wear. Hope telling her mom that she is not like her us true, not disrespectful and not a put down.
STEAM SIZZLE THE START HES SMITTEN
Love this song at the end
It's "Arms," by Cristina Perri.
STEAM SONG
this shows he was interested in steffy a guy hits on her and liam stepped in lol
Plus the looks... he always looks at Steffy like he can’t believe that this gorgeous girl is interested in him and here she is talking to him....
What I’ve always liked about Steam is the fact that they were friends first and foremost and they talked about everything... even to this day... Liam always wants to talk to her ....
Zuzana Vystrcilova yeah, I wish the writers would let them stayed together, instead of this back and forward ting with Hope..
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 They are soulmates. Sad Finn died but Steffy and Liam are going to find their way back to eachother.
Some things you just don't say to your mother; I don't care how grown a person "thinks" they are.
love this song
called ARMS
12:13 Liam this conversation is getting too hot. Wonderful.
Hope does have issues and that came out and she went on drugs and got hooked on them because of it
I don't think you can become hooked in such a short amount of time. Also, if she were truly addicted, she wouldn't have been able to kick them so quickly!
What issues does she have? She wants to wait for marriage. I don't see that as an issue. I see that as commendable. Her issue began when she compromised her values for Liam.
@@debbiefelts5640 then it’s her problem for letting a man talk her into sex. If she wanted to stay a virgin then she should have stuck to that.
@@Wareaglegirl9960 I guess you have never felt pressured to do something you didn't want to do. I have never met a person who at some point didn't compromise their values and regretted it.
@@debbiefelts5640 then she shouldn’t be a hypocrite
Steffy is a better woman Hope is a man tease and too immature
Liam was already involved with Hope when Steffy first set her sights on him, Taylor. She didn't just lose him to Hope. She never had him.
Steffy and Liam knew each other before Liam knew Steffy. Liam was working with Steffynon on her laptop.
@@maryhafiku3912… and as much as I hate it the writers are trying to put Steffy back together with lame arse Liam in 2023… same old problem, Hope and Liam were always so boring that they either had to bring in Thomas for this new sexed up Hope or have Liam pledging his love for Steffy.
They just can’t leave Steffy happily married to Finn.
As for Hope, I really want Liam to walk in on Thomas and Hope… she’s never been this hot and heavy with lame arse… would love to see Liam’s face. LOL Hope is finally tapping into her HOEgan side. 😂😂😂 BrHooker would be proud.
@@maryhafiku3912 key word KNEW Steffy didn't even give him a second look TILL Bill ditched her and she used him saving her to attach herself to him
That way I don't like Steffie
they were both annoying when they were younger
Hope always calls Liam at the wrong time. 😂
Brooke had no business telling Ridge or Steffy that Hope planned to sleep with Liam!! Just like when they actually had sex while he was still married to Steffy! Brooke and Hope felt the need to rub it in Steffy face that Hope was committing adultery!! WHY IS THIS ANYONES BUSINESS
Hope and Liam have been together for months Hope didn't take Liam away from Steffy. And their sex life is no one else's business
This was the episode Steffy and Liam secured their connection
Why is this anyone's business
Hope made it everybody business when she announced to public she waiting for marriage to have sex
Had Liam broken up with Hope to be with Steffy, it would have been okay. Instead Steffy didn't play fair, she sneaked around Liam, she poisoned him against Hope and at the end she tricked him into marriage in cahoots with Bill. This behavior is unacceptable
I just don't get that. Poisoned him against Hope? Liam wouldn't have listened to anything Steffy said about Hope if deep down he didn't believe that what she was saying was true. And tricked into marriage? He's a grown man who made a choice. If he really didn't want to marry Steffy in Aspen, he could have said no. Steffy didnt drug him or get him drunk. Steffy asked him to marry her and he said "Let's do it".
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi don't forget that Steffy turned to Bill to take Liam away from Hope. That's why Bill sent them to Aspen in the first place, to prevent Hope and Liam from seeing each other. Besides, Steffy asked Bill to stop the gondola when she saw Hope buying the ticket. Steffy knew that Hope was watching the wedding and this was incredibly cruel. She should have played fair, let Hope and Liam discuss. Maybe Steffy would've ended up with Liam anyway, but not like that. As for Liam, I agree that he could have said no, at least until he could meet Hope to find out what happened. Liam's character is extremely weak and I don't like him.
@user-zf5jn6zn2n That is true. Steffy and Bill did collide to break up Liam and Hope and trapping Hope on the Gondola was part of that collusion. I'll grant you that. But the rest of it, thats all Liam. Steffy didnt trick him into falling for her. They both fell for each other the day Liam saved Steffy's life, Steffy was just the one who actively acted on her feelings. And yes, one of Liam's main problems he is never honest with his feelings and tell Hope how he feels. He always acts like everything is OK and just try to bury his feelings. If Liam actually took time alone to sort out his feelings, he would be ok. But nobody ever gets time to sort things out on this show lol
Lol Brooke just let Hope insult her over and over
Steffy always badmouthing her rivals when she needs their men. That's her down fall. She should ask her mum
Brooke does the same thing to her rivals
Why the F***, does Steffy think she "understands" every man who is in a relationship with someone ?
First she "understood" Bill but Katie didn't
Now she "understands" Liam but Hope doesn't
Steffy, there are single men on the planent.
Maybe if he got a restraining order on Steffy she wouldn't have gotten this far with her garbage
Seriously? Liam has NEVER wanted a restraining order against Steffy. Ever.
He would also needed a restraining order against Bill
And still the office gossip about everyone’s sex life continues in 2022.
Lol the night of his engagement and Liam is dancing romantically with another woman. Poor Hope looking at the ring like everything is OK. Meanwhile Liam falling in Love with Steffy lol
was fate they met again
I'm glad I seen this episode.
Wth.
#TeamBrooke
Steffy again do not respecting herself and make herself too easy and available for Liam. She did same thing with $Bill.
At least hope knew who the father of her babies were and didnt need a paternity test
Sarah Kelaita... yes, Wyatt... baby daddy #1 and Liam baby daddy#2.
OlgaQLD so? At least she didn’t have wild desperate sex with her father in law
@@OlgaQLD She was engaged to one and married to the other!
Steffy was a fighter lmaaaao😅
6:58 😂 Mom really???!!!
She never noticed Liam until hope noticed him
It wasn't until he saved her from drowning. Thats when she decided she want him no matter what
Taylor should take on her daughter as a patient
Idk why Oliver and steffy never got together
No chemistry
Steffy: "Hope has issues..." Yeah, as if Steffy herself doesn't also have some major issues with men.
Yeah. Her biggest ones being that she is addicted to attention from Spencer men and that she pursues men in committed relationships
Huge issues. She was just all into bill. Now its liam. And she did the same thing to katie. Talking allllll kinds of smack about katie. Now she is doing the same to hope. Because thats how she worms her way into there lives. And how is taylor encouraging this.
Also the fct that she cant love a man who isnt already in a relationship with someone else. As well as the fact that she is so insecure and the only way she can keep a man is through lies and manipulation. She is the complete opposite of Hope, i mean yeah Hope has lied once or twice, but she has never lied about something really serious, or manipulated anyone. I guess that is becuae she is the target of all manipulations, especially the ones by Bill and Steffy in their plot to keep Hope and Liam apart, in some ways Steffy and Bill are perfect for each other. Thats why Liam is so confusing, I mean how do you tolerate lies and manipulations, and stay in relationships based on them. But hey, thats the bold and the beautiful, I guess!...
Could Steffys face be more botched!
Taylor and Brooke has problems smh
Steffy that hope logan man
Hope logan choose it for him to moved out with liam
Taylor feels bad for Steffy about the engagement, but Hope and Liam were together before Steffy was interested in Liam. And Liam should have more control and stop letting Steffy touch him and make moves by being Steffy and taking advantage of his vulnerability. Sometimes Liam takes Hope for granted and he just lets Steffy make moves, you're marrying Hope, Liam, stop letting Steffy talk trash about Hope and say that she has issues, otherwise you lose her, be respectful of your fiance instead of listening to Steffy and believing that she isnt just saying it because of her hatrid towards the Logans, in particular Hope.
He should have walked away in that moment. He should have told her to keep hopes name out of her mouth. But liam didnt do that. He had started to have feelings for steffie after that kiss. And this was the start of a pattern that lasts for 10 years. Once hope or steffie displeases liam. The other one is just waiting on the sidelines. Ready to bounce on him.
When Hope did the same thing with Wyatt some years later and in the Same place he got a taste of his own medicine. In the end Hope and Liam are THE couple. People can talk all they want about Steam, the real love story is between Liam and Hope. And I’m not denying his love for Stuffy by the way.
I love how the writers rewrite history because Brooke was with Ridge before Taylor even was brought to the show and now they’re acting like Ridge and Taylor were together and then Brooke intervened and that’s not what happened I’ve been watching a show since day one. It gets on my nerves how Taylor always acted so much better than Brooke wish you the one that kept going after all the force a man as well and anyone that Brooke had been involved with like nick
Like father like son. Just as she understands Bill, she understands LIAM. Disgusting. This is where the show becomes boring and wasted
this line: I understand you better then anyone else is so freaking annoying
Why couldn't these stupid writers put steffy with Oliver, instead of have her chase liam.
Preposterous. Steffy was never in to Oliver. At least say Marcus
Steffy was never into an available man.
Cause Oliver was boring
Why does Taylor an Steffie always through the years pick the same men to battle over its crazy an Taylor seems to think its right wen Hope has been going with Liam for a long time. He needs to tell Steffie no an he is only interested in Hope he noes how she was with Bill just asking for trouble
Steffy your life is single no men what so ever what you doing is wrong worry worry it is up to liam to move on to hope you can't stop them leave them 8i mean it stop it now
Liam is a wishy washy guy.Hope deserve better than Liam.Steffy take advantage of talking privacy from Liam and Hope on there wish to wait with sex to the honeymoon.
Hope could have gone to someone else if she wanted and she didn't
Taylor you doing it again condoning what Steffy is doing going after an unavailable man the same way you did year's ago by going after Ridge when he was unavailable and together with Brooke
Liam, you really need to get away from Steffy, listen to her, she's gonna use you to hurt HOPE, is that what you want?
Liam is not the you steffy
let's just say that staffy sow Liam first and then hope started to involve in there relationship tylar would have jumped to snatch hope and fight with brooke every chance she gets but when it comes to staffy it ok for her to go after liam
Technically, Steffy DID meet Liam first. You'll have to go back to that episode, it's the one where Liam and his sidekick supposedly "fixed": Steffy's computer. But, they didn't, they set her up. Steffy just didn't date him first. I just saw that episode the other day. So....
Steffy did meet Liam first. The very 1st episode with Liam on B&B, it was Steffy introducing Liam as the computer tech guy and he was helping Steffy with her labtop
Hope made it everybody business when she announced it the public. She was waiting for marriage to have sex
Steffy is easy
Oh lord steffy find the opening she was looking for Taylor yesterday steffy was madly in love with Bill now she ave feelings for his son Oh Brooke that's a slap in the face from Hope I think the writer make a mistake steffy should be Brooke's daughter
Liam is just cosplaying as a good guy. he is a mole rat for this. letting a woman rub on him on the night of his engagement.
😂😮
Shameless trollop
Steffy is so hungry for a man
Steffy being thirsty as usual!
Liam is not CELIBATE he had sex with Amber when she was pregnant with Marcus baby and Steffy on the other hand have a lot of talk with kissing, touching, tenderness, and she's not afraid to have sex but she's still a virgin just like Hope, so Ridge needs to demand Hope and Brooke to back off Steffy.
Taylor looks awful, botoxed all over
Steffy and Taylor are so delusional