I stumbled upon this video at the PERFECT time - I’m doing 80/20 as well and I’ve been racking my brain on how to cover the edges like you’re doing. Im tackling this problem in about 3 weeks and I’ve been thinking about it for a few months. Godsend video!
I'm a finish carpenter/woodworker of 40 yrs. I've always said "The best work begins with a thoughtful approach!" You epitomize this way of thinking. Everything you do has a reason for being...and with such humor. Thanks very much!
Cabinetmaker here that is also thinking about using 80/20 to convert my cargo van for when I retire in a few years. Adding wood and all that trim metal seems counter productive but I'm sure will look good. Nothing better than finding how other minds work things out. Think I will mock up base and upper cabinet to work out my way. I certainly appreciate all the work you have done and will be using many of the methods you have used in your build on areas like the solar panel hold downs and more. keep up the great work Jeff.
There is no quit in this kid.... But it does look like some of these projects are going to require a little extra time!! Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thanks again for everything. I'm not only learning about this (new to me) 80/20 stuff, I'm also learning how a good video is made. Great work on all fronts that will bring my Freightliner ambulance conversion together very nice I'm sure.
You make my life easier my friend, thank you for the time making this video specialy building and taking video the same time, and omg the Edit part isn't easy, salute to you my friend for spending time doing all all video and making it easier for all the people planning to do vanlife and DIYER'S. KEEP IT UP!
I get why you don't want to see the Alumenium but you Created a Modular Framing with the 80/20 and now with the adhesive Panels it's Permanent! god bless you dude I would not want to deal with this 80/20 Nightware! good luck though!
You're a absolute legend, my man. Awesome build. Love the energy, love to watch it all pop to life from your mind to that Beast of a Van. You should be syndicated. Pure entertainment start to finish. I'm in Sherwood Park, and in the middle of an AWD Transit buildout, which in itself is time-consuming. But to have the time to video-document it all? Insanity. I'll see you on the road.
Hey Jeff. I just found your channel, I liked, subscribe and here is the comments. You are like George from Humble Road but with way more caffeine. Thanks for explaining everything in so much detail. I’ll keep watching.
Perfect, thank you.. To be compared in that way is a huge compliment! Hopefully my caffeine fix doesn't get annoying!! LOL thanks for watching and commenting!
Now we're getting into finer and finer details, the real thinking begins! I'm sure the tight spacers are always giving your shoulders a good workout haha. Keep up the good work!
I feel like we are facing the same struggles because when you went on talking about the toilet paper holder and how you spent 5 hours I just laughed. I laughed because I did the same exact thing for exactly the same product haha. People don't realize how much time gets spent sitting and thinking about products and what will work for the purpose you need it to. I found myself just endlessly searching for "just the right" things during my conversion and it takes so much time out of the day.
There were a few that did well in this scenario, but based on price and local availability. Lepage PL was the clear winner! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi Jeff, I've really enjoyed your videos along with your in depth explanations. Although I'm UK based and I can't obtain some of the products you name, you've given me several ideas and guidelines so far. Keep it going and enjoy yourself completing an epic build! P.S Winston's cool!!
Jeff, It's Snarge22. Glad you put out a video and as always I enjoyed it. Was getting a bit concerned you weren't feeling well or something. We're getting used to your updates so get wondering if it's been a while. Regarding this video; I just love the sturdiness of your build. With no squeaks or rattles you'll be annoyed by the loud bug splatters hitting your windshield. ;-)
Great work Jeff! I have been looking for that TFL board forever!! Sadly decisions have been made and going back to look at the TFL sould be too many steps backwards.
I did look at similar items. Would have had to use thicker material to make them work, taking away from the weight savings I am looking to achieve.. Thanks for watching and commenting.
use could have used a 8020 with a flat surface on the outside and could have it powder coated or painted and you would have had a plain white front. maybe next time 😉
I really appreciate your videos and am learning a lot about the 80/20 product from them. However, a major attraction for me was the speed and flexibility of 80/20 framing as life changes in the future. I am sure the finished appearance you are going for in your build will be very handsome but it seems like 5 times the effort and negates a lot of the advantages of working with 80/20 when you start gluing wood to every surface. It is now heavier and can't be easily disassembled.
Can't say I think it's a great solution to finishing without revealing the aluminum, but I hope you have success. The beauty of 80/20 is the accessibility it can provide. If you're involving adhesives the amount of surface area is a bit overkill for a thin panel. Should just use some friction fit male/female panel mounts but instead of using a screw to mount the male use your adhesive. Then you can use your thin/light material. I like to consider a build to be for the life of the vehicle. 10-20-30 years down the line. Would be unfortunate to have to try and remove that material at some point, let alone scrape the adhesive off the aluminum.
I really like your build. I’m also planning my van using 80/20. I like the fact that it is adjustable. Your method of gluing wood to the frame locks you in so it isn’t going to work for me tho. Hope you had a great Easter. Cheers from Canader eh!
Perfect, glad you are enjoying... I think there will come a time with no matter what attachment method is used a lot of the project needs to become permanent as you close in on the finished product... This will provide longevity and less need for repairs down the road, you can still leave certain areas like shelf locations, etc to be movable! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@DaresDrives My plan is to build out my van, live in it and make adjustments as my lifestyle and preferences change and grow. I don’t think I want to build one then another then another. Maybe my view will change too. Cheers
How much weight do we think were saving with wood and price difference? Seems like a lot more work to trim and attach. I’m just debating over here the pros and cons.
True weight savings would be hard to calculate.. But using 1.5" framing ever where instead of say a wood 2x4 to have similar load capabilities. I can fit a lot more parts in smaller areas. Cost is not something that should be a concern if using 8020 aluminum, it is very expensive in comparison to wood (even at current rates) and it adds up fast!!! Thanks for watching and commenting.
If you don’t want to look at the 8020 why are you using it? Isn’t there a cheaper aluminum extrusion you can use if you’re not even going to see it? I don’t mind looking at 8020 because I believe in honesty of materials but if you don’t wanna look at it wouldn’t it be cheaper to just go with a welded aluminum tubing like lots of people use? Can’t you just glue your facing to welded tubing?
Thanks for the great comment, this was an idea i had but decided I didn't want to have to weld anything. Versatility of 8020 is great during installation and there will be a couple areas of visible aluminum at the end of the project!
@@DaresDrives Well I have yet to see any van conversion RUclips video where they really took advantage of the true versatility of 8020, so I am hoping to get my ass in gear and document my conversion and I’ve got no excuse not to since as a filmmaker I already have all the gear for recording it. But frankly I’m not interested in repeating what others have put out there already so I am not interested in becoming an expert myself at solar systems hot water systems heating systems etc., at least not on my first build. My strengths are in aesthetic and practical architectural design and structural engineering. I just watched a tour of a van designed and built by a company start up company that is going to rent them out as mobile hotel rooms. Currently they’re already in Seattle in and Los Angeles so it sounds like they are from Seattle. I was not impressed with their overall design Considering there’s no telling how much money I’ve been given from venture capitalists. They already have like 30 vans converted. They are using the high top Ford transit’s because the head of the company is 6’4” tall. I never knew that the sliding doors on the Ford Transit’s were so short until I saw him standing up and one of these vans. They are using the same toilet/shower combo that your building that uses the cassette but they are new or vans apparently use a black water tank because they want people to be able to live in it for five days without having to empty anything. Ultimately they plan to try to build vans that people can rent for 14 days without having to do anything. They have a 45 gallon freshwater tank. I’m not sure that’s gonna last two people for five days if they are not used to taking short showers like van lifers. This company put bamboo slab floor in the shower so you wouldn’t be standing in leftover water when using the bathroom if the van isn’t level. I have seen a wood slat floor used in a couple of other conversions in the shower pan for a different reason but these people don’t give credit to anybody like you do Jeff.
I sat here on my phone, started looking around, trying to find the right Thermally Fused Laminate panels. 5 hours later goes by and its like holy crap, this kid needs to get to bed. Seriously though, TFL doesn't seem availble for purchase in the US.
LMFAO!!!!! Best comment! You could also look up HPL, very similar product and maybe more available.. The color I chose decided the product i went with between the two!
I stumbled upon this video at the PERFECT time - I’m doing 80/20 as well and I’ve been racking my brain on how to cover the edges like you’re doing. Im tackling this problem in about 3 weeks and I’ve been thinking about it for a few months. Godsend video!
I'm a finish carpenter/woodworker of 40 yrs. I've always said "The best work begins with a thoughtful approach!" You epitomize this way of thinking. Everything you do has a reason for being...and with such humor. Thanks very much!
Cabinetmaker here that is also thinking about using 80/20 to convert my cargo van for when I retire in a few years. Adding wood and all that trim metal seems counter productive but I'm sure will look good. Nothing better than finding how other minds work things out. Think I will mock up base and upper cabinet to work out my way. I certainly appreciate all the work you have done and will be using many of the methods you have used in your build on areas like the solar panel hold downs and more. keep up the great work Jeff.
Perfect, so happy the vids are providing value and sparking ideas... Thanks for watching and commenting!
Yeah, seems like he's losing all the great benefits of 8020 by gluing wood to it....
This channel needs so much more attention.
Thank you soooo much.... Just keep plugging along and see what happens... Thank you for watching and commenting.
I was getting worried it would be an unfinished story. Thank you for sticking with it.
There is no quit in this kid.... But it does look like some of these projects are going to require a little extra time!!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thanks again for everything. I'm not only learning about this (new to me) 80/20 stuff, I'm also learning how a good video is made. Great work on all fronts that will bring my Freightliner ambulance conversion together very nice I'm sure.
Jeff you must have the patience of a saint, attention to detail and problem solving. Looking forward to seeing you next video.
One day I will share the footage that doesn't make the cut!! LOL Thanks for watching and commenting.
Nice to see you keeping at your van build !
Of course, nothing can stop what is coming!! Thanks for watching and commenting.
You make my life easier my friend, thank you for the time making this video specialy building and taking video the same time, and omg the Edit part isn't easy, salute to you my friend for spending time doing all all video and making it easier for all the people planning to do vanlife and DIYER'S. KEEP IT UP!
We've missed you a lot, Jeff!!!
Keep going. We all can stand hours watching your very cool ideas! 😉
Perfect, thank you for taking the time to comment and watch the vids!!
I get why you don't want to see the Alumenium but you Created a Modular Framing with the 80/20 and now with the adhesive Panels it's Permanent!
god bless you dude I would not want to deal with this 80/20 Nightware! good luck though!
You're a absolute legend, my man. Awesome build. Love the energy, love to watch it all pop to life from your mind to that Beast of a Van. You should be syndicated. Pure entertainment start to finish. I'm in Sherwood Park, and in the middle of an AWD Transit buildout, which in itself is time-consuming. But to have the time to video-document it all? Insanity. I'll see you on the road.
Perfect and WOW.. Thank you so much and good luck with your build!
Hey Jeff. I just found your channel, I liked, subscribe and here is the comments. You are like George from Humble Road but with way more caffeine.
Thanks for explaining everything in so much detail. I’ll keep watching.
Perfect, thank you.. To be compared in that way is a huge compliment! Hopefully my caffeine fix doesn't get annoying!! LOL thanks for watching and commenting!
Now we're getting into finer and finer details, the real thinking begins!
I'm sure the tight spacers are always giving your shoulders a good workout haha.
Keep up the good work!
Biggest and most elaborate puzzle I have ever attempted... Thanks for watching and commenting!!
I feel like we are facing the same struggles because when you went on talking about the toilet paper holder and how you spent 5 hours I just laughed. I laughed because I did the same exact thing for exactly the same product haha. People don't realize how much time gets spent sitting and thinking about products and what will work for the purpose you need it to. I found myself just endlessly searching for "just the right" things during my conversion and it takes so much time out of the day.
Great job once again! I can’t wait to get to the decorating part!
Hey Jeff good to see you making progress! Really interesting build, nice work!
Perfect, super happy you are enjoying the series!! Thank you for commenting!
I like those bendy things also.
You are the master!!! I don't care the length of your video.
Great video and build Jeff, very enjoyable!
Perfect, glad you are enjoying and thank you for watching and commenting.
Impressive adhesive.
You did some great research.
There were a few that did well in this scenario, but based on price and local availability. Lepage PL was the clear winner!
Thanks for watching and commenting.
You Are Amazing Man, Much Thanks 🙏🏻
This is exactly what I am planning to do except I am using Aluminum composite panels. Still fitting out my 80/20 build at the moment in a 144 4x4.
Perfect, it should look great!
Looking good !i think it’s a great weight saver! Can’t wait to see the completed cabinets! 🚐
Perfect, thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice job Jeff!❤️😉👍🏽
Perfect, thank you
Nice! Thanks
The amazing thing is when you said “bendy things” I actually knew you meant hinges
Some research gone into to finding the right glue!!! Like the cider, Nothing added but time!!!
Perfect definition! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hi Jeff, I've really enjoyed your videos along with your in depth explanations. Although I'm UK based and I can't obtain some of the products you name, you've given me several ideas and guidelines so far. Keep it going and enjoy yourself completing an epic build! P.S Winston's cool!!
Perfect, thank you... Good luck on your build and thank you for watching and commenting.
Jeff, It's Snarge22. Glad you put out a video and as always I enjoyed it. Was getting a bit concerned you weren't feeling well or something. We're getting used to your updates so get wondering if it's been a while.
Regarding this video; I just love the sturdiness of your build. With no squeaks or rattles you'll be annoyed by the loud bug splatters hitting your windshield. ;-)
Ahhhhhh the sound of the free road and bugs on the windshield..... Sounds like a dream I had once upon a time!! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Awesom man, congrats¡¡
Perfect, thank you
Great work Jeff!
I have been looking for that TFL board forever!! Sadly decisions have been made and going back to look at the TFL sould be too many steps backwards.
Hey Jeff, I've had trouble with those 'bendy things' also.
HAHA the true Jeff without the cuts,, I spend a lot of time on simple words some days!! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thanks, helpful
Also Checkout Sugatsone panel mounts , hidden fastener system,,, still watching
I did look at similar items. Would have had to use thicker material to make them work, taking away from the weight savings I am looking to achieve.. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yeah the Perfect ending outro, yeah it's good. oh yeah the van stuff it aces too but seriously the outro (golf clap)
Perfect!!! Thank you for making it through to the end and commenting!!
use could have used a 8020 with a flat surface on the outside and could have it powder coated or painted and you would have had a plain white front. maybe next time 😉
Yayo!! Nice vid!! Whts you epic fridge? Been huntin
I really appreciate your videos and am learning a lot about the 80/20 product from them. However, a major attraction for me was the speed and flexibility of 80/20 framing as life changes in the future. I am sure the finished appearance you are going for in your build will be very handsome but it seems like 5 times the effort and negates a lot of the advantages of working with 80/20 when you start gluing wood to every surface. It is now heavier and can't be easily disassembled.
Can't say I think it's a great solution to finishing without revealing the aluminum, but I hope you have success. The beauty of 80/20 is the accessibility it can provide. If you're involving adhesives the amount of surface area is a bit overkill for a thin panel. Should just use some friction fit male/female panel mounts but instead of using a screw to mount the male use your adhesive. Then you can use your thin/light material. I like to consider a build to be for the life of the vehicle. 10-20-30 years down the line. Would be unfortunate to have to try and remove that material at some point, let alone scrape the adhesive off the aluminum.
Like it 😊
Perfect!
You could have gone another 20 mins. I woulda watched. Great job J.
Awesome!!! thank you so much for watching and commenting!!
awesome.
Perfect!
Hey Jeff - For painting cabinets, what brand of spray gun is that? Cheers.
I have a link in the products listed below... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@16:00 you used a dado blade to make a rabbet cut. Love these videos. DD rocks. You can do it!
I really like your build. I’m also planning my van using 80/20. I like the fact that it is adjustable. Your method of gluing wood to the frame locks you in so it isn’t going to work for me tho. Hope you had a great Easter. Cheers from Canader eh!
You could put wood in between the channels.
Perfect, glad you are enjoying... I think there will come a time with no matter what attachment method is used a lot of the project needs to become permanent as you close in on the finished product... This will provide longevity and less need for repairs down the road, you can still leave certain areas like shelf locations, etc to be movable! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@DaresDrives My plan is to build out my van, live in it and make adjustments as my lifestyle and preferences change and grow. I don’t think I want to build one then another then another. Maybe my view will change too. Cheers
How much weight do we think were saving with wood and price difference? Seems like a lot more work to trim and attach. I’m just debating over here the pros and cons.
80/20 is lighter and wood has become expensive because of the pandemic.
True weight savings would be hard to calculate.. But using 1.5" framing ever where instead of say a wood 2x4 to have similar load capabilities. I can fit a lot more parts in smaller areas. Cost is not something that should be a concern if using 8020 aluminum, it is very expensive in comparison to wood (even at current rates) and it adds up fast!!! Thanks for watching and commenting.
How much 80/20 did you use? (mts)
Viewer engagement. 100 %
Perfect, thank you for commenting as well!
Nice testing. How much are those TFL panels?
Perfect, they were about $60 CDN each!
How could you do that to your faithful subscribers? Just kidding. Thanks again for the great content.
I thought I was doing a good thing... LOL.. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The bendy things....the bendy things....LMAO!!!
HAHAH Did you guess what I was talking about before i figured out the word?? Thanks for watching and commenting.
I would of paint it black
"we're being good to the environment"
*Proceeds to use single use plastic*
In all seriousness though, I love your videos! Keep em up.
If you don’t want to look at the 8020 why are you using it? Isn’t there a cheaper aluminum extrusion you can use if you’re not even going to see it? I don’t mind looking at 8020 because I believe in honesty of materials but if you don’t wanna look at it wouldn’t it be cheaper to just go with a welded aluminum tubing like lots of people use? Can’t you just glue your facing to welded tubing?
Thanks for the great comment, this was an idea i had but decided I didn't want to have to weld anything. Versatility of 8020 is great during installation and there will be a couple areas of visible aluminum at the end of the project!
@@DaresDrives Well I have yet to see any van conversion RUclips video where they really took advantage of the true versatility of 8020, so I am hoping to get my ass in gear and document my conversion and I’ve got no excuse not to since as a filmmaker I already have all the gear for recording it. But frankly I’m not interested in repeating what others have put out there already so I am not interested in becoming an expert myself at solar systems hot water systems heating systems etc., at least not on my first build.
My strengths are in aesthetic and practical architectural design and structural engineering.
I just watched a tour of a van designed and built by a company start up company that is going to rent them out as mobile hotel rooms. Currently they’re already in Seattle in and Los Angeles so it sounds like they are from Seattle. I was not impressed with their overall design Considering there’s no telling how much money I’ve been given from venture capitalists. They already have like 30 vans converted. They are using the high top Ford transit’s because the head of the company is 6’4” tall. I never knew that the sliding doors on the Ford Transit’s were so short until I saw him standing up and one of these vans. They are using the same toilet/shower combo that your building that uses the cassette but they are new or vans apparently use a black water tank because they want people to be able to live in it for five days without having to empty anything. Ultimately they plan to try to build vans that people can rent for 14 days without having to do anything. They have a 45 gallon freshwater tank. I’m not sure that’s gonna last two people for five days if they are not used to taking short showers like van lifers. This company put bamboo slab floor in the shower so you wouldn’t be standing in leftover water when using the bathroom if the van isn’t level. I have seen a wood slat floor used in a couple of other conversions in the shower pan for a different reason but these people don’t give credit to anybody like you do Jeff.
I sat here on my phone, started looking around, trying to find the right Thermally Fused Laminate panels. 5 hours later goes by and its like holy crap, this kid needs to get to bed. Seriously though, TFL doesn't seem availble for purchase in the US.
LMFAO!!!!! Best comment! You could also look up HPL, very similar product and maybe more available.. The color I chose decided the product i went with between the two!
looks shit should have got the smooth 80/20 and just used panel inserts ..... way to much wood used you just as well framed it out of wood