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  • @OceanlinerDesigns
    @OceanlinerDesigns  2 года назад +112

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    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 2 года назад +1

      Nicely done

    • @Stacy_Smith
      @Stacy_Smith 2 года назад

      "...largely killed the idea of an unsinkable ship."
      The USS Nevada has entered the chat.

    • @Markatta73
      @Markatta73 2 года назад +1

      MS Estonia bow door construction failor (on a RoRo-ship) killed 851 of 952 on board..

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 года назад

      Haha, for #1... the Great Eastern was built in a dock that wasn't floodable, and to launch they had to push the ship into the water. And no one bothered to actually do the math to figure out how much pushing power would be needed to actually do that. That got weird, and cost the builders a lot of money when they broke hydraulic pistons trying to do it.

    • @hannahpumpkins4359
      @hannahpumpkins4359 2 года назад +1

      The Eastland - especially after it's upgrade need to be added to this list!

  • @plusplusplusplusp
    @plusplusplusplusp 2 года назад +404

    Fun fact about the Queen Mary: the author Paul Gallico was aboard when she leaned over particularly heavily and it seemed she would never right herself. This inspired him to write The Poseidon Adventure.

    • @atomicwedgie8176
      @atomicwedgie8176 2 года назад +12

      I was told too never bend over in front of a politician. True story.

    • @christopherrosindale3175
      @christopherrosindale3175 2 года назад +35

      A fact which made Irwin Allen's use of the Queen Mary as the principal filming location for his legendary movie of The Poseidon Adventure; with the real ship used for the exteriors; a 22 ft model (which still exists, on public display in California) used for the 'at sea' and capsized shots; and interior sets built using the Queen Mary's original blueprints as the key reference. all the more appropriate, and ironic....

  • @scocon8658
    @scocon8658 Год назад +635

    The Principessa Jolanda launch reminds me of a joke:
    "Why does the New Italian Navy have glass-bottom boats?"
    "To see the Old Italian Navy."

    • @brianperry
      @brianperry Год назад +36

      That could be said of the Russian navy after the the Battle of Tsushima, the US fleet at Pearl Harbour and many of the British warships after Jutland...

    • @scocon8658
      @scocon8658 Год назад +32

      @@brianperry Well, heck - The Naval battle at Guadalcanal had so many ships sunk between the islands they named it Iron Bottom Sound.
      We could do this all day, or night, depending on where Home is ;)

    • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
      @aircraftcarrierwo-class Год назад +5

      @Super Nostalgia Get your cult nonsense out of here, that has nothing to do with ships, much less ocean liners.

    • @Yawyna124
      @Yawyna124 Год назад +6

      @@aircraftcarrierwo-class I am curious what was said, if you happen to recall based on this bump.

    • @alvisegarbin3296
      @alvisegarbin3296 Год назад +1

      @@Yawyna124 waaat?

  • @jamesfisher4326
    @jamesfisher4326 Год назад +193

    My friend's aunt was on the Queen Mary during the 1964 storm. She said it was a terrifying experience and the passengers suffered greatly.

    • @Epck
      @Epck Год назад +6

      46° of roll is absolutely insane that's like a theme park ride or something

    • @scabbycatcat4202
      @scabbycatcat4202 Год назад +3

      Maybe that was the voyage that she was met by 27 ambulances waiting on the Southampton quayside to take all the injured passengers to hospital

  • @Ten80pete
    @Ten80pete Год назад +35

    I have to say, I massively enjoy these maritime engineering channels, but this one has one of the most charismatic hosts. Just the right balance of personality, history, and shipbuilding education is going to have me binging these videos until I decide to go on a cruise someday. Then I will be forced to take a "Maritime Disaster Sabbatical".

  • @Freespeech141
    @Freespeech141 Год назад +32

    My grandfather was on the Carpathia on the voyage rescuing Titanic survivors.
    My father sailed most of WWII on Queen Elizabeth, carrying troops from USA to UK.
    He said they were always fully laden NY to UK but empty on the way back so she could reach full speed in her battleship grey, safe from being torpedoed.
    He told of troops sleeping on decks, not enough berths, and meal service being constant! Had to feed all those men.
    My mum was his gf through the war, so she and her sisters appreciated the goodies he brought back from NY, nylons and other items hard to get during rationing.
    Yes! We’re all from Liverpool! Many merchant navy families there.

    • @sadnessofwildgoats
      @sadnessofwildgoats 5 месяцев назад +2

      I'm a little confused, was your father American or British?

    • @Freespeech141
      @Freespeech141 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@sadnessofwildgoats He was British

    • @mwat22
      @mwat22 4 месяца назад +2

      Did you ever meet your grandfather and did he ever give y'all the story about that night/morning and the story about it?

  • @johnshepherd9676
    @johnshepherd9676 2 года назад +39

    The US Navy's North Carolina Class battleships had the same harmonic problem as the Lusitania. Once the ship got her speed above 25 knots vibration became an issue and increased as the ship reach her top speed of 28 knots. The solution was to change the propellers which only moved the harmonic induced vibrations to a different speed regime. However the vibration issue was now at a speed that would be unlikely in normal cruising or battle, around 18 knots.

  • @TheDoubleace191
    @TheDoubleace191 2 года назад +870

    After seeing Queen Mary's rolling characteristics, I really don't know how on earth she survived the 1942 rogue wave strike while serving as a troop ship.... Just wow

    • @toddkurzbard
      @toddkurzbard 2 года назад +162

      I think that was the same one that inspired a young soldier on board at the time named Paul Gallico to write "The Poseidon Adventure".

    • @rollingslothmachine3431
      @rollingslothmachine3431 2 года назад +125

      I could imagine that the added weight from the tens of thousands of soldiers gave the QM a lower center of gravity and therefore made it more stable then normal.

    • @TheDoubleace191
      @TheDoubleace191 2 года назад +56

      @@rollingslothmachine3431 Ah.... 10K+ troops could be a big factor afterall...

    • @anthonyjackson280
      @anthonyjackson280 2 года назад +65

      @@rollingslothmachine3431 not so much QM carried a maximum of 15,740 troops. If you allow a generous 250lbs per man for the soldier and personal kit that amounts to 1788 long tons. For comparison the QM burned ~1200 tons of fuel per day.

    • @KiwiSentinel
      @KiwiSentinel 2 года назад +46

      @@toddkurzbard No, Paul Gallico was a passenger in 1936 and experienced an extreme roll during lunchtime. He would incorporate the experience into his novel The Poseidon Adventure.

  • @toddkurzbard
    @toddkurzbard 2 года назад +297

    I'm really glad you mentioned the IOLANDA (probably the only ship ever to be lost at her LAUNCH). So many others ignore or are unaware of her when covering ship tragedies.

    • @Nooziterp1
      @Nooziterp1 2 года назад +43

      The Titanic sinking on her maiden voyage was bad enough, but the Iolanda didn't even get that far. I can just imagine her designers and the management of the builders at her launch going 'Oh shit!'

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 года назад +47

      You should consider also the sailing Warship Wasa that rolled over after 200 yards! Not so quickly as the Jolanda but here we go..

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 2 года назад +11

      @@paoloviti6156 1400 yards

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 года назад +19

      @@23GreyFox thanks for correcting me me but 1,000 yards but still in front of whole Stockholm was embarrassing like hell.

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 2 года назад +4

      @@paoloviti6156 At least they learned a way to - how not to build a ship.

  • @ernekid7241
    @ernekid7241 2 года назад +138

    I have to say that I really enjoy Mike’s videos. I came across them a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching them since. They are truly fascinating. As someone who grew up near Belfast I’ve always been fascinated by the Olympic class liners and Ocean Liner history. I have to say Mikes videos are educational, accessible and really professionally put together. this channel has fast become one of my favourite transportation history channels. Just wanted to say Thanks for another great video

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад +4

      And there was nothing wrong with Titanic when she left Belfast! H&W built a good ship.

    • @KXXULADavidOC
      @KXXULADavidOC 2 года назад +4

      Completely agree, just discovered this channel and already the videos ive seen are fantastic, also love the Olympic class liners and Ocean Liner history

    • @lorddrayvon1426
      @lorddrayvon1426 Год назад +4

      How I found him is rather obtuse honestly. Since I have an interest in both maritime history and ghost towns, I follow Part-time Explorer who Mike is acquainted with. I don't remember which video it was (I think it was one about the Titanic) but I was a bit confused when the video abruptly cut to an Aussie. A little bit of digging led me me here.

    • @unrulyjulie4382
      @unrulyjulie4382 Год назад +1

      ​@@lorddrayvon1426...I also found his channel through Part Time Explorer. Two of the best!

    • @Lizzyjaeger
      @Lizzyjaeger Год назад

      Agreed! Oceanliner Designs is part of my sons bedtime routine. Mike is an excellent narrator, whether we are listening intently or dozing off. 🥰

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад +73

    Another great one Mike! Thanks, you made my day!
    It's not too surprising Lusitania (and Mauretania) had vibration issues. High-speed propeller design was still pretty much in it's infancy and there was still much to be learned. Still, if you had to get across the Atlantic quickly and you didn't mind a bit of a rough ride "Lucy" and "Mary" were the way to go.

  • @theWanderersnotebook
    @theWanderersnotebook 2 года назад +9

    I’m a simple man, I see a OceanLiner Designs video, I like the video and watch it through its entirety

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 2 года назад +134

    “She could roll the milk out of a cup of tea”
    A brilliant quote.

    • @robertlight5227
      @robertlight5227 Год назад +10

      Corvettes in WWII were a wee tippy too. They could "roll on wet grass."

    • @ts.elliot5870
      @ts.elliot5870 3 месяца назад +2

      That's a very English analogy. I love it! Cheers.

  • @dwaveryn
    @dwaveryn 2 года назад +945

    Not an ocean liner, but the 17th century Swedish war ship Vasa comes to mind. 🤦

    • @Yaboijw
      @Yaboijw 2 года назад +22

      How did you comment 5 hours ago

    • @S3JUN3
      @S3JUN3 2 года назад +74

      He is a time travler dont worry.

    • @menofcatholicism
      @menofcatholicism 2 года назад +59

      @@Yaboijw he has a membership

    • @Rose.2889
      @Rose.2889 2 года назад +5

      How did I find it in 7 hrs u actually a time traveller

    • @Rose.2889
      @Rose.2889 2 года назад +6

      Wait this vid is 2 hrs ago and his is 7 hrs ago

  • @monsieurcommissaire1628
    @monsieurcommissaire1628 2 года назад +70

    Great video. Propeller cavitation seems to have been a problem with just about all 4-screw express liners. Mauretania, Lusitania, and Normandie are the ones that generally come up, but most of the big, fast ships grappled with it to some degree. Normandie's vibration problems improved with a new set of 4-bladed props, as did Mauretania's, but neither ship was ever completely vibration free.
    Speaking of the magnificent Normandie, she had an issue with rolling nearly opposite to QM- the great ship would roll a bit, then snap back to the vertical with a violence that would send things flying about... Still, these were great ships, imperfections and all. To Queen Mary's credit, though she came to within 3° of capsizing when broadsided by a nearly 100' wave, she did come back up again, and got the 15,000 bruised, bloodied, but grateful troops she carried safely to their destination.
    🚢Always a pleasure to watch a new video from Ocean Liner Designs!

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  2 года назад +24

      Yes quite right, it feels wrong calling Mary out on her rolling when the ship endured some insane conditions and survived just fine. I think the real design failure there was the lack of handrails :)

    • @atomicwedgie8176
      @atomicwedgie8176 2 года назад

      I heard it was 16000 on board?

    • @tripwire3992
      @tripwire3992 Год назад +4

      @@atomicwedgie8176 she still holds the record for the most people carried by ship in a single journey

    • @tomriley5790
      @tomriley5790 Год назад +2

      I think its a cause/effect situation, why did they put 4 props on the liners - to transmit as much power as possible into the water, cavitation is caused by so much power being put into the water that the water vapourises due to the low pressure on one side of the propellor blade, so if you're pushing the limits of how much power you can put out you're going to run up to the limit.
      As an aside this is why submarines making long distance transits do so at depth - cavitation is very loud (all the bubbles collapsing) so if you can prevent them forming by increasing the pressure overall at greater depth then you can stay quieter at higher speeds.

  • @167curly
    @167curly 2 года назад +57

    Each nautical flaw has helped in developing safer and more comfortable vessels, but human folly can still cause tragedy occasionally. Thanks for fascinating footage, Mike.

  • @scottmacleod6301
    @scottmacleod6301 2 года назад +9

    I've got a dinner menu from the Lusitania dated Thursday, July 13th 1911. Great grandfather and another relative used to go to Scotland quite regularly in those days I guess.

  • @majuuorthrus3340
    @majuuorthrus3340 2 года назад +41

    One of my favourite design issues is the SS Bessemer, an attempt to build a ship with a swinging internal cabin, to combat seasickness. Great idea, unfortunately the swinging of the internal cabin affected the motion of the hull and caused it to thrash wildly, driving it into Calais Pier. Twice.

    • @tf2funnyclips74
      @tf2funnyclips74 Год назад +3

      Would love to see a video made about this @oceanlinerdesigns

    • @Tindometari
      @Tindometari Год назад +3

      That's a better example of resonance than the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.

  • @proletariennenaturiste
    @proletariennenaturiste Год назад +2

    It's good that Queen Mary is still in existence and that they had installed handrails and stabilisers. It's a beautiful vessel, a massive one, and probably one of my favourite ships along with Brittanic and the other Olympic class ships for instance.

  • @willbreckinridge8010
    @willbreckinridge8010 2 года назад +13

    Nothing better on the day after my birthday than watching a new Oceanliner Designs video :)

  • @Gregm-l9r
    @Gregm-l9r 9 месяцев назад +2

    This was so interesting and very well done . Thank goodness the Queen Mary 2 is incredible in an atlantic gale and hardly rolls at all.

  • @old_guard2431
    @old_guard2431 Год назад +10

    Well done. There are a lot of candidates out there, ship launching fails being a recurrent RUclips theme, but you picked an interesting variety, well presented.

  • @GroundHOG-2010
    @GroundHOG-2010 2 года назад +113

    Note: The Tacoma Narrows was not due to resonance (as is commonly stated) but due to Aeroelastic Flutter. Basically the wind interacting with the bridge would provide negative dampening to the bridge, and at high enough speeds this would overpower any positive dampening the bridge had, leading to an every increasing torsional oscillation.

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf 2 года назад +7

      Yeah and it definitely dident have anything to do with soldiers marching. That happened to millenium bridge in London Just from normal walking people.

    • @RWBHere
      @RWBHere 2 года назад +1

      *damping

    • @nathanieldaiken1064
      @nathanieldaiken1064 2 года назад

      Say what now?🤔

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 года назад

      C O O L

    • @brianaschmidt910
      @brianaschmidt910 2 года назад +1

      Galloping gertie!!!! The broken bits have actually formed a habitat for the local aquatic animals (specifically the giant pacific octopus) and the posts from the original are still standing and can be seen from (or could've the last time I was on) the current newer bridge just to the right.

  • @kencarp57
    @kencarp57 2 года назад +25

    Mike - I think I'm becoming addicted to your informative, well-presented videos. You are doing great work!

  • @Unownshipper
    @Unownshipper 2 года назад +16

    Thanks for making this video. 15:12 I directly asked this very issue back in your "Titanic Head-on Collision" video. I appreciate you answering my question there and addressing this detail here for others to better understand as well.
    I hope there's a part two to this. You covered some big names here, but there's surely even more design flaws on less well-known ships.

  • @billigerfusel
    @billigerfusel Год назад +6

    This channel has such a weird specific niche topic. I love it

  • @gcrav
    @gcrav Год назад +4

    SS America played a role in the opening credits sequence of Bernardo Bertolucci's The Sheltering Sky, as newsreel footage of its first crossing of the postwar era following a huge blizzard in New York, carrying the young adventurers John Malkovich and Debra Winger. The whole sequence of midcentury New York was a beautiful introduction to a fine film. The short funnel smoke issue also plagued streamliner locomotives that had full faring. Laminar airflow was not a good thing.
    When I was a young pup I had the privilege of crossing Puget Sound on the Kalakala ferry, which was also notorious for its vibration problems. The story of the Kalakala (former Peralta) has lots of idiosyncratic technological and historical details that Mike might be interested in.

  • @robtrunley
    @robtrunley Год назад +14

    Poor ole Jolanda! I had never heard this story and what a tragedy, it feels like the lessons in "the race to launch" even far back as 1907 that's 79 years until the Challenger incident, we learn nothing, I think now sharing our knowledge on platforms like this contribute so much to prevent similar occurrences. Great job Mike! a new subscriber today already love the Channel... Good Job.

    • @JesusIsKing48
      @JesusIsKing48 Год назад

      that's """"Italy"""" for you, a failure since 1861 😂😂 The Savoia were and are cartoonishly stupid, incompetent and evil.

  • @alexis_ian
    @alexis_ian 2 года назад +12

    A similar incident to the one mentioned 19:19 was the HMS Prince of Wales when it sunk in 1941 while being in an air attack was hit near the port most propellers shaft by a japanese torpedo and started taking on water also the propellers also cause further damage to the battleship and was difficult to turnoff as the damage also took out the controls which contributed to her eventual sinking.

    • @hallmobility
      @hallmobility 2 года назад

      She _sank_. After she *sank*, she was _sunk_. Sink, sank sunk. Drink, drank, drunk.

  • @titaniccor6502
    @titaniccor6502 2 года назад +8

    Absolutely loving this '5 ship' series Mike, keep doing 'em!

  • @TheJojo01902
    @TheJojo01902 Год назад +1

    Mike - your videos show immense research, informative narration, and striking visuals. All good, but there is another important detail - the high quality of your voice in narration. In simple terms, you are very easy to listen to, and that is icing on the cake. Well done.

  • @vicmclaglen1631
    @vicmclaglen1631 2 года назад +9

    I read a Queen Mary account in "Captain of the Queens" where the former captain and commodore of the fleet described an incident within a French harbor some time after WWII. There was a storm and he began to move the ship out to weather it, as I recall. The anchor snagged a WWII era cable and she began to swing out of control, blown hard by the wind. He ended up going to full power in an attempt to stop the stern from grounding but the ship still struck hard enough to be felt on the bridge. I believe he said the very stern at the bottom of the ship was filled with concrete as a repair, and seeped water ever afterward. Harry Grattidge, Captain of the Queens, excellent read I Highly recommend the book. As an aside, it would be interesting to know if that concrete is still there, because that would be really bad if it is. Concrete, steel and seawater do not mix well.

    • @hallmobility
      @hallmobility 2 года назад +1

      I read that book as a boy, and toured _Queen Mary_ in 1972. While I don't recall seeing any concrete (Ha!) when I saw the propeller shaft reduction gears, I do recall that some of the gear teeth were chipped. I guess @ 35 years of non-stop transatlantic service might do that.

  • @mikehenson819
    @mikehenson819 2 года назад +2

    Can't tell you just how much I enjoy this channel!
    You put a lot of info into a short video and manage to make every second of it enjoyable. Excellence in content and presentation!
    As we say here in the States: You da Man, man.

  • @TheOljebaronen
    @TheOljebaronen Год назад +3

    Another spectacular ship design failure is the Swedish flagship Wasa /Vasa.
    It sank due to bad stability after sailing roughly 1,300 m (1,400 yd) into her maiden voyage on 10 August 1628. The sinking happened in full display for everyone to see in the middle of Stockholm, the capital of Sweden.
    The ship was salvaged with a largely intact hull in 1961. It was moved to the Vasa Museum in the Royal National City Park in Stockholm where it can be seen today.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)

  • @adrianthebeastlycreature
    @adrianthebeastlycreature 2 месяца назад

    8:33 same thing that’s happening when an opera singer shatters a wine glass with their voice! I like to find the resonant tones of showers/bathtubs by humming while I’m in them. You can be humming really quietly, but when you get to the resonant tone it essentially turns the whole shower into a speaker and it gets very noticeably much louder. I can’t imagine how awful that experience must have been on such a large scale

  • @rd4554
    @rd4554 2 года назад +10

    Nice video Michael, as always. Bravo!
    I'm just not sure if I would include the Jolanda in this list, as rather than a design flaw of the ship itself, it was more of a launch flaw. A testament to this was Mafalda's relatively good service life, although she was slightly modified after the capsizing of the Jolanda. Also note, the Jolanda and Mafalda were built and commissioned by the Lloyd Italiano (Yellow funnel with Italian tricolour), not the Navigazione Generale Italiana (Black funnel with white stripe). Mafalda would eventually join the NGI fleet and due to sheer lack of maintenance and incompetence by the NGI, become absolutely unseaworthy. NGI insisted she completed her last voyage before being scrapped, which led to her tragic sinking.

    • @JesusIsKing48
      @JesusIsKing48 Год назад

      Italy and incompetence go hand in hand, fuck the Savoia. 😊

  • @blackhawks81H
    @blackhawks81H 2 года назад +2

    RUclips algorithm with a rare massive W... This is unique, incredibly well made content.. Seriously. Excellently done videos man. I hit subscribe about a minute in. Keep up the good work!

  • @lasuvidaboy
    @lasuvidaboy 2 года назад +6

    My grandparents sailed on Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth several times. My grandmother told me about one rough crossing around 1950 or ‘51. They were in the lounge before going down to dinner and the ship was hit by a wave causing several sofas to rip free of their anchors and roll across the room. She also told me how the ss United States would bounce in rough weather and rode rough weather very differently than the Queens which would roll.

  • @lovreklaric1429
    @lovreklaric1429 2 года назад +3

    Oh wow, I've been binging your videos for the past couple of days as I have to study so of course here I am procrastinating but the content is super enjoyable, just now noticed and was surprised that your channel isn't bigger. Great quality, narration, everything. Keep it up man!

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  2 года назад

      Haha sorry for distracting you, get back to study! :D

  • @setter501
    @setter501 2 года назад +3

    Hi Michael great vids mate, proud of you! It's good for an old sea dog like me to see a young bloke like yourself taking a massive interest in the subject and you certainly do know your stuff mate! I had a great interest in ships of all types from an early age, in my teens (in the 60s and early 70s) I spent a lot of time in Southampton photographing Passenger and Cargo ships it was my hobby I loved it, I now live in Australia but I remember those halcyon days when ships were really interesting! I just missed the Mary but saw and photographed the Queen Elizabeth (my joint favourite of them all the other being Caronia of 49), I saw the QE2 in 69 being prepared for her maiden voyage (Problems with her Pamatrada turbines) I was there on a harbour tour boat for her maiden departure for New York on a very rainy day in June 69, I still have the slides! It seems like only yesterday! I joined the merchant navy in the early 70s as a Junior Engineer I did about 10 years getting up to 3rd before emigration to Aussie in 1981! Still love ships, Thankyou for you great vids and info Mate!
    Cheers!

  • @beachbum4691
    @beachbum4691 Год назад +2

    An exceptional insight into the world of early ocean liner design, I learned a great deal, thank you very much. Not an easy subject to convey to a public too much preoccupied with other and very different things., Brilliant, well done..............

  • @hollymartins6913
    @hollymartins6913 Год назад +16

    The Great Eastern had a bit of supernatural folklore attached to it. In fact, it's the origin of the 'workmen walled-up in the hull'-ghost story.

    • @CosplayDreams16
      @CosplayDreams16 7 месяцев назад

      I remember reading about that. As they were scrapping her the story goes that a skeleton was found deep inside the ship. It was apparently someone who was working on the ship and died in there.

  • @brianaschmidt910
    @brianaschmidt910 2 года назад +1

    9:07 um... That's actually a clip of galloping Gertie. The bridge spanning the tacoma narrows. It happened because the windy was extra breezy and caused the road to start undulating (or galloping) and the car actually contains the only victim of the bridge collapse, a puppers. (Someone tried to rescue him, but the puppers was too scared to leave)
    There were no soldiers at all and most people vacated pretty quickly by the time the bridge started getting hilly.

    • @ChicagoMel23
      @ChicagoMel23 7 месяцев назад

      It actually says that on screen

  • @Dakiraun
    @Dakiraun 2 года назад +15

    I love the engineering details behind all the design flaws - such great research and presentation in these.

  • @joshron99
    @joshron99 2 года назад +2

    Nice personality, knowledgeable, cheerful face, pleasant voice.

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 2 года назад +8

    Metacentric Height. First thing that came to mind.
    Not an ocean liner (although the lakes do get violent) the poster child for metacentric height issues has to be the excursion vessel Eastland. To capsize at the dock in the Chicago River.

    • @robertknowles2699
      @robertknowles2699 2 года назад

      What's summer fun in a canoe paying
      less County tax out of town, compared
      to captive in-town employees paying
      maybe with extra worc for company's
      tax ?

  • @thepixelbust
    @thepixelbust 2 года назад +2

    Good Timing. I was taking a break from hours of learning. Thank you

  • @tns-rox
    @tns-rox 2 года назад +5

    Thank you, Mike, for another informative, superbly edited and entertaining video. Your narration is excellent, as always! 👍

  • @shannon-wise
    @shannon-wise 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed this vid! Fascinating details. My sis is getting married on the Queen Mary in Long Beach in Sept 2023. I'm super excited to explore it. Staying the nite on the ship as well..... Still looking for a date haha

  • @PaladinCasdin
    @PaladinCasdin 2 года назад +60

    Not sure I'd count the last one as a design flaw, more of a 'someone really didn't think this through' flaw. 🤣
    Also, I guessed three of these before watching the video - from watching your OTHER videos (QM, Lusitania, Titanic). I'm very much looking forward to getting one of your frankly amazing drawings (RMS Olympic). You do excellent work, mate.

    • @subduedreader5627
      @subduedreader5627 2 года назад +4

      A procedural flaw might be another way to phrase it.

    • @Unownshipper
      @Unownshipper 2 года назад +3

      A flaw is a flaw. Whether you design a ship's blueprints or its timetable, these vessels all suffered due to someone's miscalculations.
      Though about that last one specifically, there's something so incredibly... Italian about bungling it so colossally. *NOBODY* considered the issue of it being top-heavy?! That almost defies belief. What a comedy of errors.

    • @PaladinCasdin
      @PaladinCasdin 2 года назад +5

      @@Unownshipper The video isn't about flaws, it's about 'design failures'. Of which the last one really isn't, since it's near identical sister ship was launched without issue - it was someone being a complete moron rather than an issue inherent to the ship itself. But you're absolutely right about one thing - it's extremely Italian...

  • @ts.elliot5870
    @ts.elliot5870 3 месяца назад +1

    Even though these ships had issues, travel seems so much more luxurious than the floating hotels we have now. I wish I back and travel on one of the giants.

  • @ryanjones5133
    @ryanjones5133 2 года назад +5

    I like how classic yet art deco the Queen Mary is and I think she and the lusitania show how strong and rosileont cunard liners are.

  • @kylewright8512
    @kylewright8512 2 года назад +2

    Holy cow dude, you did an actual intro faster than many channels pre rolls. Great video as always.

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  2 года назад +2

      I don't like to waste time :) Thanks for watching!

  • @Wiiiiiiiiiilko
    @Wiiiiiiiiiilko 2 года назад +3

    new Oceanliner design video in my notification bell, I know it will be a good day

  • @tallonmetroids271
    @tallonmetroids271 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think not using the Tacoma Narrows Bridge as the example of frequency amplification, while using the footage, wasn't the best move.
    The example used is definitely facinating and I'll definitely look it up later, though.

  • @aodhganmerrimac
    @aodhganmerrimac 2 года назад +3

    Another great video! I didn't know the America originally had shorter funnels (My grandfather sailed aboard her during her WWII trooping duties.) The Bremen & Europa also were designed with very short funnels that had the be raised.

  • @astromotive6047
    @astromotive6047 2 года назад +8

    NGL, I'm a bit surprised that the S.S. Imperator didn't make this list since her claim to infamy is that she almost NEVER stood level in the water. This was due to the excessive amount of marble furnishings HAPAG (Hamburg-America Line) had installed onboard without ever considering if such additions would make the ship top heavy. Of course this issue would earn the ship perhaps the most roast worthy nickname of all time, *"Limperator"* .

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 2 года назад +4

    Love your videos, Mike. It’s funny you mention Queen Mary and her rolling, as author Paul Gallico was inspired to write the 1969 novel “The Poseidon Adventure” after a voyage on Queen Mary where she almost capsized. How prophetic, then, that she was used as SS Poseidon when they made the movie version in 1972.

    • @robertknowles2699
      @robertknowles2699 2 года назад +1

      Dire Straits say, " that's what they call, Rock &
      Roll".

  • @guynorth3277
    @guynorth3277 Год назад

    Michael your channel is truly awesome and you deliver the information like a seasoned champ; it's as though you have a historical presents to you, as well as a genuine authenticity.

  • @willoverkill8461
    @willoverkill8461 2 года назад +7

    Terrific episode, I didn't know that about the Mary. There was a German ship as well (I think), they offset the funnels to one side for more space on the decks but it created a list because of the weight imbalance. They cut the funnels shorter and did some redecorating inside to correct but it never fixed it. I can't find the name but it'll come to me

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 2 года назад +2

      Limperator?

    • @cram1816
      @cram1816 2 года назад +1

      You mean the Imperator i guess ?

    • @willoverkill8461
      @willoverkill8461 2 года назад +1

      That's the one, thank you!

    • @ohlawdy6855
      @ohlawdy6855 2 года назад +1

      Imperator, but the funnels were traditionally placed, it's sister ships though, split the funnel uptakes to both sides of the ship to create more deck space for wide sweeping rooms, and they did not suffer from the rolling the first ship had!

  • @TopHatTITAN
    @TopHatTITAN 2 года назад +2

    Lusitania was SO eager to serve her company, she wagged her stern 🤣

  • @jfangm
    @jfangm Год назад +9

    To be fair, the idea with Titanic was that she could arrest her sinking long enough to either make it port or in time for rescue ships to arrive. Had she run into trouble in late summer, or during the day, nearly all of her passengers and crew would likely have been saved. It was really the circumstances of her sinking that doomed so many. However, she still stayed afloat longer than any of her contemporaries would have, even with 5 of her compartments breached. Lusitania sank in less than 20 minutes, taking a far greater percentage of her passengers and crew down with her, and the damage was not nearly as severe as that sustained by Titanic. Had their roles been reversed, Lusitania would have gone done far faster than Titanic, and Titanic likely could have weathered the torpedo that sank Lusitania so quickly. At the very least, she would have taken long enough to sink that the majority of her compliment could have survived.

  • @kaykaliszewski555
    @kaykaliszewski555 Год назад

    Good Content in a fashioned Way, Keep up the great WORK!

  • @armron94
    @armron94 Год назад +7

    The Queen Mary was used in the movie The Poseidon Adventure. Also the writer of the book Poseidon Adventure based on the Queen Mary due to a rogue wave hitting the ship pretty hard

  • @datarecoverysweden
    @datarecoverysweden 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for taking the time to create these.

  • @S3JUN3
    @S3JUN3 2 года назад +4

    Another great video! I wish the best if luck to you!

  • @fenman1954
    @fenman1954 2 года назад +5

    Not an ocean liner but the great lakes steamer Eastland disaster is a fascinating story on how not to design a ship.

  • @davidsherwin8967
    @davidsherwin8967 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @Mr_Maritime
    @Mr_Maritime 2 года назад +13

    I find it crazy that Queen Mary’s rolling was so bad that it inspired the book and movie “The Poseidon Adventure” in which a ship is completely capsized by a tidal wave. Pretty crazy!

  • @josephlopresti26
    @josephlopresti26 Год назад

    Cannot justify why I continue to educate myself. Few people I know try to improve their minds. Thanks muchly.

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes6741 2 года назад +3

    Mike, my friend! Thank you for another fascinating video. I do not like modern ships much. You cannot beat the beautiful jewels created up to and including the 1960s. Thank you for the video! It is an epic installment! You do the best ship videos! (I am holding a torch for a video about the Dominion Far East Marco Polo! Sorry to be a nag!)

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Daniel! I do plan to cover Marco Polo's insane career at some near future space and time :)

    • @danielintheantipodes6741
      @danielintheantipodes6741 2 года назад

      @@OceanlinerDesigns My mother (now deceased) once saw a friend off on a Marco Polo cruise. The ship did not leave the wharf while she was onboard but she still experienced claustrophobia, claiming it was 'the size of a matchbox'! I always loved the look of it and the interesting voyages. Travel to China was highly restricted in those days. I used to have a few of the brochures but they disappeared long ago sadly. They were lovely, I recall. I miss physical travel brochures. The 'good old days' were frequently not so good but they did have some redeeming virtues!

  • @Jaymachine
    @Jaymachine Год назад +1

    Your style of presentation is second to none!

  • @CounterFleche
    @CounterFleche 2 года назад +3

    I'd like to see a similar video focusing on operational failures, like how the ferry Harold of Free Enterprise never had a specific process to ensure the bow doors were closed prior to leaving port.

  • @MarkoosChimpuclese
    @MarkoosChimpuclese Год назад

    "I've said it before and I'll say it again..."
    honestly thought you were gonna say "crockery was smashed to pieces" lol Love your vids bro. keep 'em coming

  • @chloedevlin6544
    @chloedevlin6544 2 года назад +5

    I've always been fascinated with history but I found myself stuck on your channel for quite a while I just want to say thank you for your work and I appreciate what you do!
    Please excuse lack of punctuation, I don't have a lot of time at the moment.

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  2 года назад +2

      Thanks so much for watching, Chloe!

    • @hudsonslim3169
      @hudsonslim3169 2 года назад +1

      You don't have enough time to use punctuation but you have enough time to write that you don't have enough time to use punctuation?

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 2 года назад

    Yet something else I've learnt about Titanic here, in that it was considered too impractical to extend the watertight bulkheads further up the ship's hull. I can see why they thought it sufficient to be fair. BTW that Italian liners sister looks to have a very large superstructure, I guess the loss described explains why fitting out takes place after launch. Keep up the good work Mike!

  • @SeaTravelr123
    @SeaTravelr123 2 года назад +3

    OMG. I knew of the Principessa Iolanda, but didn’t know about Principessa Mafalda’s tragedy.

  • @allanmoore4353
    @allanmoore4353 2 года назад +2

    As a fan of steamships I was actually aware of all these issues with each ship, but nonetheless I thoroughly enjoyed the post, thank you, and perhaps it will arouse interest in more people, hope so, such a fascinating subject.

  • @rlanza1054
    @rlanza1054 2 года назад +4

    Your channel must of been promoted because I found one episode in my recommendations. And I loved how you put together your content. And for some reason a British accent is very pleasing to me. My neighbor and older woman (we are both American and from NYC) says she has trouble understanding the words. We watch a lot of BBC TV here because a lot is now being streamed to America. I actually signed up for Britbox & PBS. So we watch a lot of British shows. There are some British accents that are harder to understand but I suspect its a Welch accent and not British.
    But I should get back to your content.
    I like how you made the Titanic interesting again. I thought I knew most about it. But you have brought new details. And I am starting to watch your other postings.
    Thanks and Good Luck!
    Rob
    PS Wait are you Australian? Which I did visit Australia back in 1997

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 2 года назад +1

    I shall get in awful trouble if I try to say Oz or NZ so I might simply ponder whether Mike is based somewhere in the Antipodes, given the light inflection but in any case that is rather less the point than I think the fella has a career, not on some budget commercial cable station (doing interesting, but as I said, slightly cheapo, documentaries like How do They Do It? Or Engineering Fails) - but at the BBC😀 What an interesting addition this sort of program would make to our National telly and with such a grand (and well off!!) lady behind him (apparently, behind every successful man, is a good woman, but I wouldn't know😏), he could really give this series the pomp it deserves!
    Don't get me wrong - I so appreciate the really professional cutting from atmospheric old photo to (animated) schematic - and the matchless passion for and knowledge of, the subject which is clear from the excellent, engaging narrative that, unlike the north Atlantic, doesn't make heavy weather of even fairly complex concepts and doesn't seek to skip over them either (as with the difference between centre of gravity and buoyancy).
    At the same time, is rightly unafraid to pepper the story with snippets with a more "human interest" angle like the lovely notion of, during a fierce storm with the Queen Mary listing at 47°, the dowager Marchioness (as I imagined the character) straddling the wall and the floor to countermand the almost comedy angle!
    I should not say this is a guilty pleasure - in fact, it contains so many elements that go into making a great story - summoning, as it does, pioneering engineering (sometimes only partially effective!), grandiloquent design - often still beautiful and certainly glamorous - incredible quality and luxury entirely reflective of the absolute majestic peak of Edwardian decadence and faintly nostalgic, representing as many of these incredible ships do, both the pinnacle but also the swansong of this type of sybaritic transport (well, when it wasn't showing a neighbouring ship right up its pipes which indeed, was another delightful - if possibly undignified, detail!)
    I may conclude by saying that this is one of the vanishingly few channels I don't skip the ads and sometimes even just click on the website, to help him get paid for all this work - and I am absolutely hyper allergic to commercials normally. Already looking forward to the next one!🙂

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  2 года назад +1

      Goodness, what an absolutely glowing and beautifully-written review. I am very humbled and I must say thank you so very much! With all the best from Melbourne, Australia :)

  • @SeaTravelr123
    @SeaTravelr123 2 года назад +3

    Agree with you about America. She was perfect after the new funnels were installed !!

  • @DarrenCGraham
    @DarrenCGraham 2 года назад +2

    Your videos are so therapeutic. Keep up the good work

  • @vilstef6988
    @vilstef6988 Год назад +5

    In contrast to the Mary, her rival the Normandie was described as a sharp, snappy roller!

  • @jefftube58
    @jefftube58 2 года назад +1

    Another fantastic video by Mike Brady ! I never knew the America's funnels were originally shorter.

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman 2 года назад +6

    This makes Gibbs' achievement of becoming a naval architect without any proper real training all the more impressive.

    • @kay9549
      @kay9549 2 месяца назад

      @TheHylianBatman indeed Gibbs was an indeed a naval architect; he was indeed in tune in design. He indeed designed such a beauty; sleek her beautiful design; safety first was his goal. In not sure what his feelings would be if he was with us today; of how his beauty; not cared for; an absolutely shame.

  • @RameyOwen
    @RameyOwen Год назад +1

    The collapsing suspension bridge pictured in the video is not the Broughton Suspension Bridge in England. It is the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in the U.S. State of Washington. The Tacoma Narrows Bridge, also known as Galloping Gertie, collapsed on November 7, 1940, killing a pet dog.

    • @ChicagoMel23
      @ChicagoMel23 7 месяцев назад

      That is displayed on the screen during the clip

  • @Nikonover
    @Nikonover 2 года назад +3

    Love your work, a lot of research and very informative.

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 2 года назад +1

    Great narration, tons of information. Overall, a very enjoyable watch.

  • @DerpyPossum
    @DerpyPossum 2 года назад +11

    Sometimes we can all feel like an SS Principessa Jolanda…

  • @yoptastic8463
    @yoptastic8463 2 года назад +1

    I am really enjoying your channel, you tell the facts in a smooth easy way and all the sort of facts about these beautiful ships and their very sad diastaers or the general design, workings and indeed failings that I like and want to know about. Really great work, can't wait for the next.

  • @hellothere4589
    @hellothere4589 2 года назад +3

    Can you maybe do a video about the .S.S. Rotterdam? It is my favourite ship and i would love to see a video about her. Keep it up and amazing video as always!

  • @cedriccottage2070
    @cedriccottage2070 Год назад

    how do you get me to pay attention and enjoy your videos even if I know nothing about boats, nor ever cared. But loving your informative and entertaining content.

  • @bonnietrujillo4142
    @bonnietrujillo4142 2 года назад +3

    Great video can you do a video of the Sheer and Camber deck and explain how they are measured.

  • @jamesmichaelwoods2930
    @jamesmichaelwoods2930 Год назад +1

    I enjoy this channel and your excellent presentation

  • @Roadking1956
    @Roadking1956 2 года назад +3

    Just found your channel love your videos about titanic and the engineering that made it work especially the video on how it was steered I was always curious how that worked and you did a real good job of explaining it I also wondered about the galleys on Titanic and how they served all the classes of people on the ship do you have any videos about that thanks Mike for posting all you do

  • @Hypellokaga
    @Hypellokaga 2 года назад +1

    Happy to have just found this channel. Very informative and entertaining, keep up the good work!

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 2 года назад +4

    The millennium bridge in London also had resonance issues. When it opened in 2000 it was notoriously wobbly and had to be shut. I'm assuming by the late 1990s they had computer modelling etc, so just goes to show... Best made plans

    • @purcascade
      @purcascade 2 года назад

      I was visiting London with a school group on the day the Millennium Bridge opened. We were supposed to walk across the bridge to see The Globe, but my roommate and I saw on the news that they had closed it just before we were about to go. It's so funny to me that it only lasted hours before being closed, and of all the weird coincidences, I happened to be visiting from the other side of the world.

  • @MarksKicksOnRoute66
    @MarksKicksOnRoute66 2 года назад +1

    Sir you are the best Ole Soul on RUclips! Love your content and knowledge!

  • @Sabrinajaine
    @Sabrinajaine 2 года назад +13

    Principessa Jolanda's sinking is just embarrassing!

  • @ronnylaboos1922
    @ronnylaboos1922 2 года назад +2

    Regal Ship Vasa : A ship built between 2 different designs, where ship builders changed over the years, feature like a 3rd battery deck was added because it would look cool and a chief aka. the king demanded "just get it done..." And there was a thing with using different rulers where one had inches set to 2,25mm and the other 2.5mm ... A small wind gust pushed it over to the side and it took in water and sank after a very short distance.