How do I bid on Japanese auctions? What are the costs?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • Over the last few years I’ve featured a number of interesting products that were only for sale to the Japanese Domestic Market (JDM). While some were bought via eBay and others from Amazon.jp, many of the older, more unusual devices were bought through the Japanese Yahoo Auctions. This video explains how I go about doing this and how the costs can mount up.
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  • @JimGardner
    @JimGardner 4 года назад +79

    A friend of mine spent a billion million ordering a bootleg recording of a gig he was at in the 1970s. This was in the dial-up days before online video streaming (the gig in particular is now widely available on RUclips). It had sentimental value and was, at the time, a very rare performance. It came all the way from Japan even though the gig itself was recorded at Newcastle City Hall. He waited for weeks and weeks for it to arrive, having blindly sent off a cheque, and when it eventually arrived he put it in the video, exicitedly pressed Play, and reaslied to his horror the whole thing was ruined by some arse hole in the audience, next to the person recording it, singing along to every song at the top of his voice. My friend then realised that person was himself.

    • @josephpickard3108
      @josephpickard3108 3 месяца назад +1

      This has genuinely made my day. Laughed at this for nearly 20 minutes 😂

  • @dr_jaymz
    @dr_jaymz 4 года назад +344

    Seems like a great deal for everyone except the seller and buyer!

  • @drmr4613
    @drmr4613 4 года назад +1180

    JFTR: "Junk" (ジャンク) in Japanese store terminology means: untested (or at the most given a quick power-on test), unrefurbished, and uncleaned -- basically "as-is", usually with a no-return policy. It is for items where the cost of labour to test, repair, and clean would outweigh the resale value. It distinctly doesn't mean "garbage," rather it is an easily pronounceable English word they repurposed.
    Another term that is good to know is "wake-ari" (訳あり or わけあり), which in meaning roughly translates to "there is a reason this thing is so cheap." Those are functionally intact goods with only cosmetic faults, either from production or wear over time, and they usually come with a return policy.
    Japan has a distinct "second-hand culture" and an accompanying ecosystem. By and large, they are very honest and extraordinarily specific about the cosmetic and functional state of second-hand items, and also their return policy (or lack thereof.) Even with heavily used or broken items they still want you to have a good customer experience, and they want you to know exactly what you are getting into.
    [Edit: removed a paragraph that can be easily misunderstood, and is not really pertinent to the topic anyway.]

    • @ActionHeinz
      @ActionHeinz 4 года назад +56

      Okay, so smiley face, broken chopsticks, cyclops and half of an antenna means the item is as it is... makes sense somehow... :D
      Jokes aside, thanks for the explanation!

    • @RichHomieBodhi
      @RichHomieBodhi 4 года назад +56

      I bought a “Junk” super famicom from Japan for $20 shipped. Item came in looking mint and worked without any issues.

    • @muddyducker3336
      @muddyducker3336 4 года назад +17

      Having recently returned from Japan...I am jealous of your ability to live there. What an amazing place with amazing people.

    • @SkeleCrafteronYT
      @SkeleCrafteronYT 4 года назад +9

      Damn son, that’s a whole new level of materialism. Not that I’m complaining
      Edit: this comment was regarding said paragraph that was misunderstood :P

    • @AttilaTheHun333333
      @AttilaTheHun333333 4 года назад +6

      SkeleCrafter
      You can see it that way, or just appreciative. After all we all worked for the money we spend.

  • @dokols
    @dokols 4 года назад +75

    I've bought some things from japan on regular ebay and I must say the packaging I've received have been pieces of art. Packing peanuts lined up individually and everything neat to perfection. So pleasant to unpack 😀

    • @DEMENTO01
      @DEMENTO01 4 года назад +9

      We really need to step up our game at packaging lol

  • @VeraTR909
    @VeraTR909 4 года назад +330

    Having worked in an air freight warehouse, you definitely need that kind of packaging. Boxes are tossed in huge crates, so they must survive a drop and there might be another ~1.5 meters of boxes on top of it which could be very heavy. And workers don't get enough time to do things gently, or else the conveyor belt will fill up, it's tough work (that's awful for your back).

    • @muhammadislam0000
      @muhammadislam0000 4 года назад +7

      @@craigjensen6853 🤨

    • @alexeveryman5080
      @alexeveryman5080 4 года назад +9

      Parcelforce Coventry, I remember seeing guy throwing parcel so they would bounce of front wall of a trailer. It was his workout I guess.

    • @tonymontana897
      @tonymontana897 4 года назад +26

      @@alexeveryman5080 That is the kind of thing that would anger me if I witnessed that. I'd bounce his head off a wall to see how he'd like it. Stupid Fucking Apes.
      People pay a lot of money for items plus horrendous shipping only to have some Moron exercise his biceps with other's property.
      The Shipping and freight industry needs a proper shake up !

    • @tonymontana897
      @tonymontana897 4 года назад +8

      @@craigjensen6853 Amazon are the worst !..
      Poorly packaged and items always arrive damaged.
      I stopped using Amazon over 10 years ago.
      Never again.
      That douche Bezos only cares about filling his bank vault than customer quality satisfaction.
      Fuck you Bezos. You'll never get another cent from me asshole !

    • @DarthRevan961
      @DarthRevan961 4 года назад +12

      @@alexeveryman5080 It really is. I lost almost 10 pounds working at a FedEx hub in a month.

  • @th-fb1nl
    @th-fb1nl 4 года назад +3

    You don't leave behind anything and respect everything along the way including intros of your video. Your are one of the treasure of RUclips's community. I have always awaited for your video. I feel some kind inner happiness watching those, which i cannot explain you in words. You are a great human being.

  • @ezg8448
    @ezg8448 4 года назад +55

    The wording on the packing material means it can be burnt in an incinerator.
    Those UK import taxes are crazy!

    • @Chi_Vid1
      @Chi_Vid1 4 года назад +7

      Import taxes should drop now that we are leaving the EU

    • @E_Europe
      @E_Europe 4 года назад +1

      @@Chi_Vid1 thank God !!!!!!!

    • @richardsinger01
      @richardsinger01 4 года назад +6

      Cheryl Davies don’t hold your breath. But £13 import duty seems reasonable to me.

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 4 года назад +5

      @@richardsinger01 - you're still missing $30 for import vat and $13 for the clearance fee, $55 total pounds total.

    • @gillianvonrunte4747
      @gillianvonrunte4747 4 года назад +12

      @@Chi_Vid1 based on what? Now we will get the privilege of paying import taxes on European goods too.

  • @MonsieurAuContraire
    @MonsieurAuContraire 4 года назад +307

    Looks like you bought £80 worth of packing materials.

    • @Linkale_
      @Linkale_ 4 года назад +37

      It would be a good idea to save it for later, you've paid a lot for it xD

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees 4 года назад +12

      Clippy, go home. ;)

    • @ooHotcooleRoo
      @ooHotcooleRoo 4 года назад +8

      Yeah those bags akin to Instapack go for up to 5$ a pop.. and there are plenty on them in there

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 4 года назад +1

      Air freight over a continent or over a major ocean is always going to cost a pretty penny... Too bad the trains running from China to the Europe can't do this readily. I could wait a month for 1/4 the shipping costs.

    • @karelpipa
      @karelpipa 4 года назад +2

      @@Linkale_ i save them even if i paid non for it..am i crazy? :D

  • @SwitchAndLever
    @SwitchAndLever 4 года назад +22

    The tape is actually the same kind of tape that Amazon uses, it's basically a woven paper strip that has glue applied to the strip just before they put it on the package. Makes a really strong bond and is really durable, and if you have the system much easier to deal with than sticky tape, and if you go through a lot of it it ends up being cheaper as well.

  • @Northern5tar
    @Northern5tar 4 года назад +262

    Could have just dropped it out of the plane above your house the way it was packed.

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 4 года назад +8

      Yeah but locally in Japan it was wrapped in paper.if at all

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees 4 года назад +20

      Would've saved him a fair bit of customs too. ;)

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 4 года назад +21

      And if it's Delta Airlines, you'll get a dousing a of free jet fuel along with it!

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees 4 года назад +12

      @@RCAvhstape Handy for lighting the BBQ. 😁

  • @wal
    @wal 4 года назад +42

    I was considering doing a video on a Japanese only product, so this is extremely helpful. Thanks for sharing your experience!

  • @philweight3480
    @philweight3480 4 года назад +7

    I've bought and had shipped (via Buyee) two great classic 70s hifi items including a large JVC turntable, at ridiculously cheap auction prices, and paid a little extra for the full protective shipping - perfect results both times and the result was huge savings. Couldn't be happier. No pre-depositing of funds either.

  • @pongusikya
    @pongusikya 4 года назад +50

    Shipped from Yonago! A lovely city on the Japan Sea cost in Western Tottori. There's a quality hot spring in the city. Great off the tourist map place to visit.
    "Medical grade tape" is just normal tape that you can get at the Japanese Poundland. Haha!

    • @ActualCharky
      @ActualCharky 4 года назад +2

      ... are you telling me there are 100 yen stores?
      I *really* need to go to Japan...

    • @pongusikya
      @pongusikya 4 года назад +7

      @@ActualCharky there are many different 100 yen stores.
      Daiso: biggest and most general many +100 yen things
      Seriya: is a bit more fancy, has better crafting supplies and table ware.
      Flets: has the best selection of food stuff
      CanDo: is probably the most disappointing but I've been told they stock more made in Japan goods
      Lawson 100: is a 100 store conbini. Sometimes you get the weirdest stuff there also good for limes and avocados. I bought a beanie at one of these Thursday.

  • @pmgodfrey
    @pmgodfrey 4 года назад +133

    I've shipped probably 28 very expensive rack mounted synthesizers with tons of bubble wrap. If you want it to arrive in perfect condition, it's going to cost a bit more due to materials and the size because I've protected it well. I would never stick something in a box without protection and call it done. I'd always be willing to pay more for someone who can pack well versus someone who doesn't care.

    • @danieldc8841
      @danieldc8841 4 года назад +6

      pmgodfrey I guess it is a balance though. I do feel like that packaging was excessive but the company would rather be safe than sorry, especially if they’re not paying for it.

    • @AttilaTheHun333333
      @AttilaTheHun333333 4 года назад +4

      Daniel DC88
      Imagine that HiFi equipment costs ten times that much.

    • @AttilaTheHun333333
      @AttilaTheHun333333 4 года назад +10

      gower1973
      Those 132 pounds weren’t just for packaging, but also for shipping and probably storage time. He got the item pretty fast too, so shipping definitely wasn’t cheap. But I agree, it still looks very expensive and too much frankly.

    • @lowdefal6306
      @lowdefal6306 4 года назад +2

      Absolutely, but all of that in the video is overkill and has unnecessarily increased the price. I've paid the same to ship 20kg boxes, including entire 80/90s pc formats from Japan all with superb per-item packaging that didn't also force an increase in postage prices beyond sensible levels. All arrived intact.

    • @peterjf7723
      @peterjf7723 4 года назад +4

      I have in the past charged about £60 for packaging of some fragile collectable items. They were not a standard size so I had to make custom boxes for the items. Of course I made those costs clear in the description and gave the option for the buyer to collect from me in person.

  • @MickeyD2012
    @MickeyD2012 4 года назад +5

    That thing was packed with love and care. It makes me happy.

  • @carolineleonard8214
    @carolineleonard8214 4 года назад +2

    It's the packaging that does it for me. Superb. I've bought from Japan in the past, not as large as yours though, and the attention to detail in packaging has been fantastic.

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 4 года назад +20

    This was interesting to learn about!

  • @beanbandit495
    @beanbandit495 4 года назад +3

    This is the EXACT video I needed to help me start my Laserdisc collection. Thank you Techmoan!

    • @beanbandit495
      @beanbandit495 4 года назад +1

      @@mattsephton Oh? What would be the proper or better way to do it?

  • @k3ntris
    @k3ntris 4 года назад +1

    So happy to see Techmoan almost close to 1 million subscribers without begging people to like and subscribe.

  • @astrotrance
    @astrotrance 4 года назад +1

    We appreciate you taking the gamble and making the effort for us. Can't wait to see this player in action!

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 4 года назад +13

    That foam stuff crushes really easily to get it down to bin size. Just jump on it.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 4 года назад +3

    Very interesting and informative. Thank you for making this video.

  • @kernelzechs
    @kernelzechs 4 года назад

    You are a lifesaver. I have an actual need to get some stuff off of Yahoo Auctions and you came through. As always, excellent content. Thanks

  • @WanJae42
    @WanJae42 4 года назад +5

    I use Celga to buy from Japan (Yahoo Japan auctions or otherwise). They're a very small outfit, but you get personal service. If you're comfortable with it, they can even set you up with your Yahoo Japan account so you can do the bidding yourself, and anything you win goes straight to their warehouse.

  • @Ultravox5600
    @Ultravox5600 4 года назад +8

    Ive used Buyee before and it went incredibly smoothly.. In fact the only thing i wasn't quite prepared for was the shipping cost (it was a very rare 80s motorcycle helmet, so not so small/light) but everything else was very reasonable. They also had a much slower ship-travel option that was a lot cheaper, but would be considerably slower. Worth noting that I'm on the west coast of America.

  • @fab1604
    @fab1604 4 года назад +3

    2 big videos in 5 days, you're spoiling us, Mat! 😊

  • @72polara
    @72polara 4 года назад

    Thanks for sharing this. I wondered how you got some of your items to show us. Fun to have a look behind the scenes and learn what it takes for you to get things.

  • @jamespaddick244
    @jamespaddick244 4 года назад

    Techmoan read my mind! I only asked for some tips on buying from Japanese auction sites on the MiniDisc group on Facebook last week. Thanks so much for the information. Much appreciated!

  • @ryaneickmeyer6191
    @ryaneickmeyer6191 4 года назад +3

    The filming on this video is really great. Great job with audio and lighting specifically.

    • @Theracles
      @Theracles 3 года назад

      You must be new here! ;)

  • @mrarcadia
    @mrarcadia 4 года назад +4

    I couldn't stop thinking about how cold your coffee was at the end of the video.

  • @Kochiha
    @Kochiha 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the pointers, my friend in Japan who used to ship stuff out to me is a bit down on his luck so this will help me out.

  • @chriscutress6542
    @chriscutress6542 4 года назад

    I can't wait for your video on this item. Looking forward to it.

  • @etmccaus
    @etmccaus 4 года назад +3

    Found this rather interesting, as I've been using Jauce for about a year now - initially to collect automobilia, but have also expanded into attaining random small parts for a Japanese project car of mine that are either difficult or impossible to find stateside. As you note, it adds up - especially if you keep items warehoused in order to combine shipments - but the packaging they provide is nothing short of an artform.

  • @ihave7sacks
    @ihave7sacks 4 года назад +115

    Me: Whoah that's expensive postage!
    Mat: Lifts giant box onto table.
    Me: Ohhh. . .

    • @NJRoadfan
      @NJRoadfan 4 года назад +12

      That's what a properly packaged piece of electronics should look like. Even within the USA, its expensive to ship a box that big and heavy now.

    • @DEMENTO01
      @DEMENTO01 4 года назад

      tbh the international shipping part of the price would have costed the same if it was sent to me from the USA (USA to Spain mind you) so idk

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela 4 года назад

    Great stuff. I'm looking forward to the video on this cool looking unit.

  • @jamiehasted1265
    @jamiehasted1265 4 года назад

    Awesome video as always, but have to say, more excited to see more on the MD deck, looks interesting!

  • @simonbeasley989
    @simonbeasley989 4 года назад +3

    Can't wait for the next video when you review the CD/MD!

  • @generikz
    @generikz 4 года назад +6

    Studied the market for a while and decided that BUYEE was better.
    They made custom request harder these days but lowered fees on high priced items recently.
    Bought TONS from them over the years. Nearly no issue.

    • @liucyrus22
      @liucyrus22 4 года назад

      generikz fees are still expensive, not that much of a rip off fortunately. The 10% auction fee is just ridiculous.

    • @liucyrus22
      @liucyrus22 4 года назад

      The other ripoff would be the clearance fee. Heck why does customs clearance gets charged extra?

    • @generikz
      @generikz 4 года назад

      @@liucyrus22 Not 10% auction. Buyee is 300 flat fee on auction and 200 payment fee. You can opt for "no plan/check/insurance" so it's 500 + shipping to Buyee and then I recommend buying more (30 days free storage) and consolidate for 1,000 before shipping.
      buyee.jp/help/yahoo/guide/fees?lang=en

  • @NaieraDK
    @NaieraDK 4 года назад +2

    I use Tenso to buy used anime Blu-rays from Amazon Japan. These aren't auctions of course, but I thought I'd mention it because it's a very good site, simple and fairly cheap to use. They're affiliated with Buyee.

    • @YdenMk-II
      @YdenMk-II 4 года назад

      Same. I've had good experiences with Tenso.

  • @dimensiongamer534
    @dimensiongamer534 4 года назад

    I always love these Techmoan stye unboxing videos :)

  • @ge200099
    @ge200099 4 года назад +42

    The "Junk" section in japanese secondhand stores is my favourite. Japanese kinda got the attitude to pay somebody to do something, than to do it themselves. Most of the time they just buy something new and throw away the old stuff. I bought nearly all my electronics there and most of them are working fully, they were just dirty or maybe too old and too "outdated". I bought a printer for 500¥ (3£) with a clogged nozzle. I soaked the printhead in warm water and that made it work again. New price is about 25000¥ (maybe 175£). Heaven on earth for people like me, who have a free weekend from time to time. Well, most other people here don't, so that explains a lot 😁

    • @thienpham9629
      @thienpham9629 4 года назад +1

      Listen to your story is really fascinating. I'm sorry if I'm harsh or something but can i send you email to discuss more about it? Sorry if my Eng is bad. I'm currently a college student and it's hard to get new devices though...

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza 4 года назад +4

      I once found a gold Nintendo 64 in the junk section at Hard-Off for 300 yen! You better believe I took that one home!

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 4 года назад +4

      Yeah those Japanese pawn shops. I bought so many guitars from them $10,20.

    • @thienpham9629
      @thienpham9629 4 года назад

      @@TheLexiconDevils you found those when you were living in Japan?

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 4 года назад

      No they have stores on yahoo auctions

  • @MichaelYates
    @MichaelYates 4 года назад +22

    OUCH ! , when i have bought some items from Japan in the pass i look for an eBay seller that ships to UK that sells a lot of similar items that i am looking for and ask if he can get hold of an item i want that he has not got listed, sometimes these sellers can get hold of it for you and saves a lot of shipping costs - another very informative video

    • @JohnJames0204
      @JohnJames0204 4 года назад +10

      @@mattsephton Techmoan is just giving an example, not a guide on how to buy things for cheap. If you can do better then shut up and do it.
      He's sharing his experience and you gotta shit all over it like he murdered your girlfriend jeez.

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 4 года назад +1

      A lot of those ebay sellers don’t own what they’re selling they’ll just go buy them from a store after you win. Often at a much higher price than what you could get it from Japan service directly

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 4 года назад +1

      No. It’s called being a price gouging prick.

    • @rutgerb
      @rutgerb 4 года назад +1

      @@TheLexiconDevils welcome in the world of 'trade'.

  • @richardnolloth
    @richardnolloth 4 года назад +2

    Great video, have always wondered the costs of importing Yahoo Japan electronics...I hope this video helps you recover those unwanted fee’s!

  • @aginxz
    @aginxz 4 года назад

    Yet another great video.
    Good topic - I often wondered how to go about that.
    Now I know - thanks :-)

  • @Oldgamingfart
    @Oldgamingfart 4 года назад +10

    I used one of these intermediaries (Shopping Mall Japan) quite regularly over ten years ago to fill in the blanks in my games collection. The exchange rates were much more favourable back then, and going with SAL shipping over EMS could save you quite a bit (the wait wasn't that much longer to be fair).
    On saying that, sometimes they didn't give you a choice and billed you for EMS especially if the item(s) were high in value. During that whole time, I never had a single item damaged or go missing (easily +100 items) - it was always the UK side of things that held things up considerably.
    Oh, and that 'medical grade' parcel tape smells wonderful! xD

  • @lcalvom
    @lcalvom 4 года назад +166

    That's one expensive cheese sandwich there!

    • @grantersg
      @grantersg 4 года назад +1

      Luis Calvo Mayo lol

  • @rykerketcham7512
    @rykerketcham7512 4 года назад

    Your videos make me happy thank you.

  • @GuitarsandDrones
    @GuitarsandDrones 4 года назад

    Wow amazing packaging, good to see people still take care to give great service it’s not all about cutting cost

  • @Badutspringer
    @Badutspringer 4 года назад +8

    I just use a VPN; change my address to local; and ask nicely for international shipping to your account. Works 4/5 times.... you should try. Gotten loads of Laaserdisc stuff that way.

    • @DEMENTO01
      @DEMENTO01 4 года назад

      tho i would feel bad for the seller but idk if the seller sold it as international the shipping price would have been like 1/3

  • @righthandofdoom77
    @righthandofdoom77 4 года назад +55

    The last thing I bought from Japan was Super Mario themed Uno. The sender sent a thank you card with a sweet attached to it.

    • @the_trash_mane5875
      @the_trash_mane5875 4 года назад +13

      I bought an MD-RZ30 from Japan and a Christmas card was sent with it, pretty wholesome man

    • @positivemasculinity42
      @positivemasculinity42 4 года назад +10

      The Japanese are a special kind of people

    • @QuestionBlockGaming
      @QuestionBlockGaming 4 года назад +7

      I buy a lot of second-hand video games from japan, and every single time I've ordered them it's been an overwhelmingly pleasant experience. I ordered a box of dagashi/cheap snacks and candy once, it cost me about $12 for 40 pieces. But the seller included a letter thanking me for buying and included an extra 10 pieces since it was a holiday.
      Absolutely magnificent.

  • @viziz2171
    @viziz2171 3 года назад

    very good video and you explaind everything very good :) Thank you for the video!

  • @WelshDdraig
    @WelshDdraig 4 года назад +2

    That expanding foam packing is actually quite expensive (much more than some scrunched up newspaper and bubble wrap like you'd get if it was shipped from the UK 90% of the time).
    But, on the other hand, its nice to see a shipping company taking such care (even if it is going half way around the world).

  • @G1itcher
    @G1itcher 4 года назад +75

    Sitting at home taking a forced day off work, then Techmoan releases a video and suddenly the day is a bit better

    • @versaleyang
      @versaleyang 4 года назад +9

      Don't be a workaholic, enjoy your day off :)

    • @Danny-wv8ec
      @Danny-wv8ec 4 года назад +11

      Last week i e-mailed Techmoan with a question about HiFis and he replied right away. He’s an amazing RUclipsr and a great chap!

    • @pancudowny
      @pancudowny 4 года назад

      He's gonna cover the subject of MiniDisc again, so I'm happy! And this time, it'll be about making a 5-hour compilation on a single disc.

    • @G1itcher
      @G1itcher 4 года назад

      @@versaleyang normally I would, but it wasn't planned, and I work freelance; don't get paid for days off/sick days :(

  • @DavidBakker
    @DavidBakker 4 года назад +5

    Now that is something I would like to know!

  • @ownersguides
    @ownersguides 2 месяца назад

    Super helpful video, Thanks for sharing the info

  • @Seiskid
    @Seiskid 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the rundown. In this case it didn't work out financially but that actually made the story more interesting.

  • @S0N1Cua
    @S0N1Cua 4 года назад +3

    I do something similar with shipping from the US to Ukraine, only I bid myself and use forwarding company, it can ship by air or sea, shipping by sea is much cheaper and similar size and weight box would be about $30-40 plus local tax

  • @CK-ceekay
    @CK-ceekay 4 года назад +130

    You won, but at what cost?

    • @paulsmall5122
      @paulsmall5122 4 года назад +3

      badum tss

    • @U014B
      @U014B 4 года назад +12

      About 350 quid, ya dingus.

    • @RingoYote
      @RingoYote 4 года назад +4

      Everything.

    • @anonymoususer4937
      @anonymoususer4937 4 года назад +5

      Pyrrhic auction?

    • @imho4990
      @imho4990 4 года назад +2

      After Brexit you will pay same absurd amount of money even if you buy something in France. ;)

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 4 года назад +1

    I speak japanese and english I can tell you one thing, you hit the nail on the head, after a few years they totally forget what anything they own does. lol. That whole new tech phases out all tech ALWAYS mentality. lol.

  • @AllanKobelansky
    @AllanKobelansky 4 года назад

    I'm a new subscriber. Your videos are most enjoyable and informative.

  • @RetroCore
    @RetroCore 4 года назад +7

    Hi Techmoan. Fellow Northen Brit here who has been a follower of your channel since the beginning. Anyway, don't normally comment but I'm wondering why you have to pay Auction Win fees? (unless you mean commission for the middle man?) I've been living in Japan since 1998, yep, half my life and been a seller and buyer on Yahoo Auctions since around 2005 (actually sold a FM Towns to a Middle man yesterday) so I know the system very well and can tell you that we in Japan don't pay a special win an auction fee. Also, free delivery is kind of rare unless its a really cheap item. Also, in Japan people pack stuff extremely well, I mean way over done. So no idea why you think they don't pack well. I wonder if that's something the middle man company says so you pay them more for better shipping? Saying that, the packing on the item you bought is well done. I would imagine that the bubble wrap and brown cardboard around the item was original packing from the seller. That's standard. Then they'd put it in to another box with more packing.
    The FM Towns I shipped yesterday is packed to Japanese standards and would easily survive a trip overseas. I'm kind of annoyed if someone has to pay more for a middle man to re-wrap something in a probably worse state.
    Anyway, just thought I'd mention that. Looking forward to the next video 👍

    • @jungha496
      @jungha496 4 года назад

      The "Auction Win fees" are commission or service fees, which is stated on the website:
      "Jauce commission:
      When you win an auction, JPY 400 + 8% per item will apply over the auction item’s closing price."

  • @PhantomHarlock78
    @PhantomHarlock78 4 года назад +113

    Feels like being in Brazil and buying anything from any other country.

    • @ReinaldoRauch
      @ReinaldoRauch 4 года назад +15

      Pretty much, 60% import fee is just ridiculous

    • @netsfera
      @netsfera 4 года назад +13

      Yes. I'm from Brazil and here the taxes are outrageous. In the end, you pay for almost two products!

    • @sugaryhull9688
      @sugaryhull9688 4 года назад +9

      Or Australia

    • @imho4990
      @imho4990 4 года назад +6

      Feels like after Brexit.

    • @user-ij1re3li6f
      @user-ij1re3li6f 4 года назад +8

      In Brazil, the final price would be around 600 ponds, and it would be delivered by July. And you will always have the risk of losing the object to the BR customs, because a employee liked the item and declares it "lost". By the way, the mailman won't deliver the box, you will have to go to the Mail office and search for it, and if they give you your package it will state that the mailman tried three times the delivery but noone was at the address.

  • @sagafan13
    @sagafan13 4 года назад

    Thankyou so much for posting this

  • @mjarbar3204
    @mjarbar3204 4 года назад +1

    Really helpful video, in the past I have put off getting stuff direct from Japan as I assumed I had to buy and ship direct from the seller. Never knew about the intermediaries I could use.

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 4 года назад +5

    There are also a lot of things in South Korea you can't buy anywhere else, including a lot of new electronics that are only on the korean market(atm). However, ordering from korea is usually easier than japan, but pretty much the same problems sometimes applies(people not wanting to ship internationally leading to expensive reshipping options, and/or limited payment options).

    • @81pieda
      @81pieda 4 года назад

      Like e.g. a Samsung DCC recorder? 😁

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 4 года назад +1

      ​@@81pieda A lot of LG things, too.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 4 года назад +1

      @@mattsephton There are a few. I think Avecko is a popular one. Assuming you are talking about reshipping services.

    • @81pieda
      @81pieda 4 года назад

      @@rich1051414 did LG make any dcc recorders?

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 4 года назад

      @@81pieda I know nothing about DCC recorders :P

  • @RichardDzien
    @RichardDzien 4 года назад +3

    Yo dawg, i heard you like packaging, so i got you some packaging with your packaging!

  • @Jimmy_G412
    @Jimmy_G412 4 года назад +1

    This was packed very soundly. We use those expanding foam inserts at the company I work for and the machine to do this is not cheap. Basically it's a computer with a touchscreen that allows you to select how large the "bag" is and what percentage you want it filled with foam. It takes a bit of practice to get right.

  • @johntrussell7228
    @johntrussell7228 4 года назад

    Fascinating video, thanks for sharing.

  • @randomnickify
    @randomnickify 4 года назад +132

    I wonder whatever "Techmoan Effect" will cause JAUCE webpage and business to explode :D

    • @XANApwns
      @XANApwns 4 года назад +22

      Suddenly all their rates skyrocket from increased demand

    • @pe1etr
      @pe1etr 4 года назад +23

      More like implode, as this video is not exactly an endorsement for them. ;)

    • @moroit1
      @moroit1 4 года назад +14

      @@pe1etr Eh, that's great packing and huge packet. I'd say that it's worth it. I've had stuff costing nearly that to ship WITHIN Europe

    • @Jako1987
      @Jako1987 4 года назад +12

      I have a sudden tingling and urgent feeling to buy minidisc players... 😜

    • @MoultrieGeek
      @MoultrieGeek 4 года назад +10

      @@pe1etr I got just the opposite impression, seemed to me that Mat was very happy with their service.

  • @t8757
    @t8757 4 года назад +5

    A Japanese cheese sandwich video 😋

  • @digitalranger4259
    @digitalranger4259 4 года назад

    Very informative, thank you!

  • @paulsmall5122
    @paulsmall5122 4 года назад

    Unboxing video! RUclips approves! Was an interesting video as always, cheers.

  • @RyuHayabusa06
    @RyuHayabusa06 4 года назад +22

    Shipping from Japan used to be cheap. I used to buy games and consoles from Japan often. Then somewhere around 10 years ago things changed and now it's outrageous to buy anything big like boxed electronics.

    • @wagmiorngmi
      @wagmiorngmi 4 года назад +3

      Exchange rate is what happened.

    • @tiborklein5349
      @tiborklein5349 4 года назад

      @@wagmiorngmi I'm sure the increase in demand had a lot to do with it as well...

    • @wagmiorngmi
      @wagmiorngmi 4 года назад

      @@tiborklein5349 Not really. Put the exchange rate back to what it was and stuff becomes cheap again.

    • @Ultrajamz
      @Ultrajamz 4 года назад

      John Doe The Yen got stronger is what ur saying?

    • @AfferbeckBeats
      @AfferbeckBeats 4 года назад +2

      Japanese shipping is better than many places, like from the US. I buy a lot of old records from Japan, even when I don't have to. Because buying a record from the US to Australia costs about $25 USD, usually without much of a discount on additional records. From Japan starts around $14 with about $3 for each additional. So I can sometimes buy 4 or 5 records for the same shipping cost from Japan as one from America. New records I tend to buy from the UK and Germany as they can ship a record for about 5 EUR! About half the cost of local shipping somehow...

  • @antonsch25
    @antonsch25 4 года назад +5

    Very interesting!

  • @DriveCancelDC
    @DriveCancelDC 4 года назад +1

    I live in Japan and I love it for old tech. I bought a like-new VHS player (multi-region so I can digitize old home movies) for 3000 yen ($28) and it has not a scratch on it, original remote and cables. I often buy laserdiscs for 100 yen or less in great condition too, I got the Twin Peaks box set for about 4000 yen which weighs a LOT! (15 discs). I'm planning to buy a used set of bookshelf speakers to go with the retro corner I am building (Sony CRT, VHS player, laserdisc player, PS2, Dreamcast etc) in my new apartment. :P

  • @Krishna-of1hv
    @Krishna-of1hv 4 года назад

    Nice video thanks for different type of electronics.

  • @camrowdrone6497
    @camrowdrone6497 4 года назад +7

    English man in Japan watching enjoyed, Japan very expensive, but you get the best 👍🏻

  • @TomGreen99
    @TomGreen99 4 года назад +54

    *1:30am time for bed*
    _Technomoan uploads_

    • @DJ_BROBOT
      @DJ_BROBOT 4 года назад +3

      Lol... Same thing happened to me!!!

    • @pywaketpilot
      @pywaketpilot 4 года назад

      5 am here!

    • @NomadOfNorad
      @NomadOfNorad 4 года назад

      @@pywaketpilot Yup, was 5am for me too. >>giggles

    • @7JANEWAY
      @7JANEWAY 4 года назад +1

      "Technomoan"??? It's Techmoan, my friend.

    • @kalilsuyan871
      @kalilsuyan871 4 года назад

      7pm here in Malaysia

  • @kevincozens6837
    @kevincozens6837 4 года назад

    Interesting video. I didn't know about these Japanese auctions. I also noticed the cassette changer in the closing part of the video. Never seen anything like that before or even thought that such a thing might exist.

  • @marknestbox
    @marknestbox 4 года назад

    Loved this so Thank you as ever. Second Side Up FM.

  • @williamtaylor9546
    @williamtaylor9546 4 года назад +38

    Great vid an a really useful primer for what to expect with non-EU transactions (currently) in the UK. The customs charges are what annoy me, as the tax will have been paid in two countries.

    • @MoviesNGames007uk
      @MoviesNGames007uk 4 года назад +11

      The stupid £15 limit to import things from America before paying customs fees and tax etc. really bothers me.

    • @glitchwalker5422
      @glitchwalker5422 4 года назад +12

      I dread to imagine the process of buying things from the EU after we leave. Realistically I doubt it'll be as complicated as this, but being hit by extra fees for basically no reason is frustrating

    • @baronvonlimbourgh1716
      @baronvonlimbourgh1716 4 года назад +3

      @@glitchwalker5422 especially the fees added by shipping companies can add up quickly. The import charges themselves are usually tot that big.
      I got a couple of times that import was like 3 euros or something and dhl charged almost 30 clearance and prepayment fee on top of that.
      On small or cheap items this can really be a bitch.
      When buying something more expensive this is of less importance offcourse, but how often do you buy expensive stuff from half way around the world. With aall the risks involved and all.

    • @trondmm
      @trondmm 4 года назад

      That depends on the seller. It'll be true on auctions, of course, but if you buy new items from stores that are used to shipping goods out of the country, they can deduct the local tax before shipping it to you.

    • @video99couk
      @video99couk 4 года назад +4

      Then Parcelforce slap their bit on too, and since there's no competition, they can charge whatever they like.

  • @Johann52005
    @Johann52005 4 года назад +31

    "Waste to energy facility" is an incinerator. Apparently this plastic can be burned... nice as always

    • @davidjgomm
      @davidjgomm 4 года назад +7

      Also known as an "energy recovery facility".

    • @sepruecom
      @sepruecom 4 года назад +7

      "thermal recycling", as it is known in Germany

    • @rich_edwards79
      @rich_edwards79 4 года назад +4

      "Waste to energy facility" here in Leeds. We're currently powering and heating something like 10,000 homes with it via a district heating system, with more coming on line this year, and ours has some pretty serious particulate scrubbers, but yeah, it's incineration, when all is said and done.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 года назад

      I had assumed it was one of those biofuel anaerobic digesters, so.. good to know.

    • @bilkyasko
      @bilkyasko 4 года назад

      Depending on the area, it may be that all waste that can't be reused or recycled goes through waste to energy, or all still going to landfill, or a mixture of the two.
      The HWRC you take it to should indicate the disposal method.

  • @interwebtubes
    @interwebtubes 4 года назад

    Interesting stuff,
    Many thanks 👍

  • @Mr2at
    @Mr2at 4 года назад

    Great vid. Enjoyed.

  • @alexanderpowell1528
    @alexanderpowell1528 4 года назад +38

    Yeah, I've been through all this in the past (2003) as I used to buy toys from Japan and import them into South Korea. After a while I noticed the Japanese wanted certain South Korean items relating to K-wave film stars. So, I begen sending posters & photos etc and my buyer/seller in Japan began selling the stuff. It was all good as I'd use my Yen profits to buy more Japanese stuff. Anyway, it all went to crap when I sent a wall sized poster (7ft wide) to the Japanese facilitator via fedex as it was too large for regular post, and he went beserk in an email reply telling me I didn't understand how small Japanese apartments were. Oh well, was fun while it lasted.

  • @dcflake5645
    @dcflake5645 4 года назад +42

    I have no interest in this service yet still watched the entire video. Dunno if that says Techmoan is really interesting or that I am just really dull.

    • @FreihEitner
      @FreihEitner 4 года назад +3

      Maybe it's 70/30. Techmoan is really interesting.

    • @digiowl9599
      @digiowl9599 4 года назад

      10 minute distraction. Perfect while grabbing a bite etc.

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 4 года назад

    Very interesting. I've bought several things from stores and Amazon in Japan but never an auction. I knew about these intermediary companies but haven't needed to use them yet.

  • @gavincurtis
    @gavincurtis 4 года назад

    Whoever packaged that was good. Very good and done right.

  • @RingoYote
    @RingoYote 4 года назад +54

    Techmoan is the James May of Technology.
    who is the Jeremy Clarkson of Technology?

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil 4 года назад +14

      AvE perhaps?...

    • @LeftoverBeefcake
      @LeftoverBeefcake 4 года назад +11

      Electroboom? ( ruclips.net/user/msadaghd )

    • @burtobm
      @burtobm 4 года назад +8

      Big clive

    • @ezedjay
      @ezedjay 4 года назад +5

      Nah - not AvE, Electroboom or Big Clive are total cocks like Clarkson.

    • @fuelvolts
      @fuelvolts 4 года назад +8

      Linus. For sure.

  • @omegalord
    @omegalord 4 года назад +11

    High customs charges really hamper international purchases. This is why I only buy from China, as they usually always let them pass without question.

    • @melmaciandissenter2324
      @melmaciandissenter2324 4 года назад +5

      Isn't that funny ! I'm in Belgium and I bought an old camera lens from Switzerland. The custom charges were higher than the lens.
      Meanwhile the custom scammers let everything from China come in free of charge, including drugs and even Humans (!) in containers.
      Europe is committing suicide ... :(

    • @melmaciandissenter2324
      @melmaciandissenter2324 4 года назад +2

      @Florian Held Ah, but Belgium in a clown Country ! ^^

    • @davidrasthammar1057
      @davidrasthammar1057 4 года назад +2

      @@melmaciandissenter2324 Of Course it is, it's the home of the EU.

    • @sjames5027
      @sjames5027 4 года назад +3

      Another reason things from China are so cheap, which most people don't realise, is that China subsidises export shipping. The government pays for the item's shipping charges. And again Europe doesn't question this, even though it's blatantly unfair subsidised competition.

    • @anononomous
      @anononomous 4 года назад

      Gotta hate all the custom charges you get ordering from one country to another within the EU...

  • @XYZrl
    @XYZrl 3 года назад

    very helpful, thank you

  • @ZekeGraal
    @ZekeGraal 4 года назад +1

    I live in the US and I have used White Rabbit Japan. I've not bought anything large with them yet, but they are good people with great customer service and communication.

  • @blvtzpk
    @blvtzpk 4 года назад +46

    I've been living in Japan for over 20 years. Resellers will pack your items VERY WELL - it's what Japanese customers expect. I've worked with people from delivery companies (takkyubin) who have told me how incensed Japanese customers are when a product is not delivered in a pristine fashion, hence the caution in packing.
    I even had a takkyubin delivery person this week apologize to me that the package he was delivering to me (from Amazon Japan) was slightly dented. There was even a message attached TO the box written in English apologizing!
    Yes, the packaging can be excessive (we gaijin always go on about the packaging in Japan, especially boxes of biscuits (cookies?) in a box that sit in a plastic and are which also individually wrapped in plastic).
    However, I love getting items like CDs from resellers in Japan. They (nearly) always have products that are in far better condition than they list (e.g. good = like new!) and make sure little or nothing can happen to your item when it's mailed to you.

    • @EvertGuzman
      @EvertGuzman 4 года назад

      Heh, I’ve gotten a cd before that was packed in nothing more then a bubble mailer.

    • @stargasior
      @stargasior 4 года назад

      Japanese post and delivery companies tend not to throw packages either.

  • @pizhma69
    @pizhma69 4 года назад +5

    I've been using Remambo shopping service for several years, no need to deposit money for bidding on auctions too. Best service for my wallet!

    • @remambojp
      @remambojp 4 года назад

      Remambo rulez! Why pay more to other proxies!?

    • @epicmemevideos
      @epicmemevideos 4 года назад

      @@remambojp 5$ per order and 3.6% payment fee?, i paid cheaper on other proxy

  • @altamiradorable
    @altamiradorable Год назад

    Thank you so much for sharing that ! It,s like finding a whole new world ! So much rare things to find ! Sometimes, you will find diamonds in the rough !

  • @glyph2011
    @glyph2011 4 года назад

    Cracking video. And what excellent packaging! They obviously want to ensure complete safety for the product. I’ve often wanted things from japan so will look into these sites. 👍👍

  • @rogerw9840
    @rogerw9840 4 года назад +11

    Well, now I'm curious to what's so special about that particular MD/CD-combo. :P

    • @PhotoTubeUK
      @PhotoTubeUK 4 года назад

      There is nothing special about it. The buyer is a sucker!

    • @ronwilliams8543
      @ronwilliams8543 4 года назад

      It more than likely has a direct dubbing facility from CD to MiniDisk.
      I have three portable MiniDisk player/recorders from Sony, (including a Hi-MD), and Sharp, and two Sony Hi-Fi MD recorders, it's a great medium. Hi-MD equals FORTY plus LP's on a disk that is about 2/3rds the length and 1/2 the thickness of a C60 cassette, (which holds one LP :-( )

  • @luxembourger
    @luxembourger 4 года назад +21

    100 Volts is really low, when I think about it. Significantly more loss caused by the higher currents in the house wiring.

    • @81pieda
      @81pieda 4 года назад +2

      And thicker cables, hence more copper, more expensive installation

    • @Richardincancale
      @Richardincancale 4 года назад +8

      They use 3 phase 200 volts for higher powered devices like cookers...

    • @SometimeWoodworker
      @SometimeWoodworker 4 года назад +4

      Mostly water heating for the bath showers and kitchen use are gas not electric, at least in all the houses I visited and apartments I lived in.

    • @thelight3112
      @thelight3112 4 года назад +3

      @Lassi Kinnunen I've never seen an electric shower heater in a 120v/100v country. In the US and Canada water heaters are big tanks heated either by gas or 240v 50A.

    • @stephenrobson6480
      @stephenrobson6480 4 года назад +1

      @Utkarsh Amitabh Srivastava Or a very small dog.

  • @sdavifcom
    @sdavifcom 4 года назад

    Super interesting ! Thank you !

  • @KomradeMikhail
    @KomradeMikhail 4 года назад +2

    Beware that fact, these intermediary companies like to open and repackage...
    If you are specifically collecting something in it's original vintage box, this can burn you.
    They are known for throwing away rare original packaging to send you the worthless item from inside.
    This notoriously happens often with retro computer collectors trying to get 1980's MSX Computers.