prussian langauge is still alvie if you want to learn join this forum you can learn there ...there are people who speak this langague and can teach you..forum.prusai.org/home
I am the last of the Prussian in my family my great great grandpa n grandma came from Prussia to America before Hitler killed Prussia off I will kill to bring my family's country back HAIL OLD BALTIC PRUSSIA
I understand some bits. I was born in Latvia however some of my relatives are still living in Germany. And by the way my relatives and ancestors were Prussians. Sadly only few are still alive :(
Traci Scheelk Nope, the teuton german knights invaded latvians and old prussians. Germanization began. Though latvian still stayed intact, old prussian still existed until the teuton knights union with brandenburg. They were no longed old prussian anymore. They became germans. And under hitlers controll, the prussians were persecuted and made german. Soviets just continued it.
My family are also from Eastprussia they had some familymember from Latvia but they also they had ancestors from the old baltic prussia. It is sad that they had to öeave their land where they lived for 900-1000 years : ( Also in my family there are just two alive who are from Prussia.
It's so beautiful... ❤ I can understand some words, but in general, the way of speaking, intonation, pronunciation, these sound so familiar, even if I don't get the meaning. Well, dear Balts, brothers and sisters, we must do everything to keep the remaining Baltic languages alive.
My great great grandpa n grandma came from Prussia before Hitler killed Prussia off I will kill to bring my family's country back HAIL OLD BALTIC PRUSSIA
what a beautiful city Koenigsberg was, full of history, never suffered any damage for 700years up to the WW2 and then almost entirely obliterated and reconstructed in a soviet brutalistic fashion. So sad. ps: my dad is from Gdansk for many generations and my surname is prussian so I feel some connection.
+MrMarks101 Western Baltic languages like Prussian are a bit different from Eastern Baltic languages like Lithuanian and Latvian. They have all been killed off with the slaughter and enslavement of those who were seen as demonic with their language and pagan culture, but those who took on German as a language survived and we now speak a dialect of German with some Baltic words, like Suris is cheese, krupi are shoes, kujel is a boar, merjal is girl, kladdig is a juniper, alus is beer, krepsh is a basket, wabel is bug, pirschlis is a matchmaker, pakrant is the edge, crust or the coastline of something, and parpas is a fern. But mostly we speak German or Russian after being sent to Siberia to work in labour camps until the end of the Soviet Union. Now they use North Korean slaves who think that they are doing their duty for their nation. Asma prusiskai sklaits as ni bilai billan. (I'm Prussian but I cannot speak the language.)
HojoOSanagi Wow, thank you for your information exchange. That is interesting. A few of the words you mentioned are very very similar to Latvian. I can name a few - Siers is Cheese, Kurpes are Shoes, Meitene or Meiča is Girl, Alus is beer (The same in Latvian), Vabole is bug (Beetle more specificly). Since Bishop Albert, who was german, was the one to find Riga, the capital of Latvia. So durring that period a lot of germans came to Latvia and i believe that is why Latvian has a few commonalities with German. It would be very interesting if Prussia still existed, in stead of freaking small Russia (Kalinigrad).
Very interesting to listen to this. For a Latvian who knows that only language similar to my language is Lithuanian, it’s almost wierd to hear another language with similar words in it. It’s like a mix of both of the languages. 😁
I'm the last of the family bloodline of old Prussia my Great great grandpa n grandma came from Prussia to America before Hitler killed us off HAIL OLD BALTIC PRUSSIA my Great great grandpa last name was Ziehm Germany took everything n made us part of them
I have almost always admired prussians, and every Estonian knows, that this land is not russians land and not germans, but it was long time ago prussians land. I have heard they were good fighters :D
It's been 3 years already and I've always come here to listen to some spoken prussian. People around me say it's "ugly" but I find it so relaxing... At least how you speak it :) Thanks so much for sharing.
Im Lithuanian and I understand more of this than Samogitian :D :D :D Btw I have watched a video interview with 3 brothers and it was said to be confirmed to be Prussian and it sounded like a mix of Lithuanian and German. So it contained 50% more of German than this one.
Old Prussians or Baltic Prussians (Old Prussian: Prūsai; German: Pruzzen or Prußen; Latin: Pruteni; Latvian: Prūši; Lithuanian: Prūsai; Polish: Prusowie; Kashubian: Prësowié) refers to the indigenous peoples from a cluster of Baltic tribes that inhabited the region of Prussia. This region lent its name to the later state of Prussia (see King in Prussia). It was located on the south-eastern shore of the Baltic Sea between the Vistula Lagoon to the west and the Curonian Lagoon to the east. The people spoke a language now known as Old Prussian and followed pagan Prussian mythology.
My dad just did a DNA test and he found that from his German side he has at least 11% Russian, 4% Baltic and 4% Swedish. My only Guess is the cross cultural area of the eastern Prussian area is where this would have happened.
@@iamcleaver6854 I am Latvian and barely pick up some words, I don't know what these other people are picking up...but I could not tell you what he is talking about..
@@vaiciciaku if you go southern Brazil it's still spoken in some Rural villages by descendents of imigrants of balten Deustch. They keep the language and it's widely spoken at home, the Portuguese is just a second language. Unhappy it's dying... Only few of the youngest generation are learning and speaking.
Prussia wasn't originally German. Before the Knights came it had close national relations with the Baltics. (cousins? :)) That's why the language doesn't sound Germanic. Perhaps with the introduction of German immigrants the chief language changed so that by the time it became a kingdom everyone was speaking German.
NOW it's fandom time. (fact > fiction) If Gilbert was the Teutonic Knights and afterwards the Kingdom of Prussia, then who was the post kingdom Prussia? My headcanon is that there was an Ancient Old Prussia. When the Kingdom was founded, he died and Gilbert became the new "modern" Prussia.
From my understanding Prussians themselves are (or were, more precisely?) Germans who got Baltinized (right word for it? :D) and developed their own Baltic styled language with german language influence. THe Prussian kingdom only was prussian in name. It was ruled by germans for germans. By the 16th century prussian culture and language was basically dead already.
Yeah, it wasn't until the collapse of the holy roman empire they started speaking German. Primarily because of Brandenburg taking over (It's a German state so they spoke German).
Flitter Mouse Christening of Prussia happened to be much earlier that Lithiania, hence they lost ties as they become very different in all means how pagan can be different to early Christian
Prussians were never Germans. Real Rrussians were genocided, and Teutonic order wanted to do the same to Latvia and Lithuania. Prussians were unlucky to be the closest to german tribes and isolated from their baltic brothers.
Nav nemaz tā, ļoti daudz kuršu valodas līdzību, tāpat arī baltu cilmes vārdu, ja tu lasīt to pierakstītu, saprastu krietni vairāk. Un jāsaprot, ka šī jau ir mākslīgi atjaunotā valoda, vecā prūšu valdu nu jau vairs nekad nedzirdēsim. Ja skatīsi latviešu kaķismu, ko tulkojuši vācieši un izlasīsi pēc lietuviskās fonētiskas, tad arī neko beigās nevarēsi saprast.
Ze wszystkich Staropruskich nazw krain geograficznych pozostałych na terytorium obecnej Polski pozostała w niezmienionej formie i używanej współczesnie jedynie nazwa Warmia.
As an Englishman I found this interesting as I was told the language of the Pru was dead so I listened and found it to be quite pleasant to the ear much the same as the Sax. The language's all must be connected along this coast and beyond after the swarming to the south after the collapse of the Roman Empire
this language isnt closely related to german at all, closer to lithuanian and latvian. it always gets confused because the german kingdom of prussia shares the name.
i read from wikipedia that in estonia 33% of population are real finno-ugrics who have lived here about 8000 years,also there are said that in latvia and lietuva this % is 41% in latvia and 42-43% (these finnougric genes come from fatherline)what that means? it means that a lot of curelians,estonians, livonians were assimilating thousands years ago and took baltic language to mother tongue.genetical-resourches show that we are like one nation- we ,most of us have same genes.
How about those from Königlish Preussen including full of Polish language speakers Ermland and Masuria region of Ducal Prussia who also spoke a dialect of Polish? What was the identity of those people during 1466-1772 when Royal Prussia was a part of Poland and Ducal Prussia for two thirds of this period was a vassal state of Poland?
9 years later - My mother's family was from Mazury - Nidzica area. Homeland of W Galindians and other Old Prussian tribes. The area was colonized primarily by Mazovian Poles, with some Germans and other European colonizers. They, including my grandparents and other ancestors, spoke the Mazovian dialect of Mazuren, which is about one fourth or more Slavicized Old Prussian, with some Low German. A few thousand in Mazury still identify as Mazuren, with some still speaking it. After WWII, many Mazurens moved into Poland, just as Poles into Mazury and other parts of southern East Prussia vacated after the diaspora of those with German ethnicity. Old Prussians mixed with both Germans and Mazovian Poles over the course of the centuries, giving rise to unique melting pot cultures. We also must remember the Lithuanians of the former East Prussia as well. Many of the families that immigrated to the area of US that I am from have Old Prussian root surnames, ie Bartoszczeski, Poganski, after Old Prussian tribes. My great -great grandmother's maiden name was Preuss. My ancestors formed a small Mazuren community here, speaking Mazuren at home, German, probably Low, in church, and English with their children and for trade. There was minor prejudice from Polish communities for both being East Prussian and Lutheran. Mazuren was a slur - the Mazovian in them didn't count - they were considered different. Thanx for inquiring. Most Old Prussians were mixed with Germans. The Mazurens are often overlooked in these discussions. I've been flat out told we don't exist, either by trolls or the ignorant. Yet Mazuren is studied in the reconstruction of Old Prussian, and in Poland, pre WWII ethnic Mazurens are sought for a genetic study of their Old Prussian/Mazovian/Lipka Tatar roots. My other side is Irish/German so I can't participate. The small settlements of ethnic communities in rural US are less isolated and in the melting pot.
It sad people dont preserve their language. A quite big population but no preservation of the culture, Its not 500 years ago. Thanx for sound and video! Miss you from Swe!
It's hard to understand, ear must adopt to person that speak. 10 times I listen to understand, some words at the same moment I hear understand, some 2-3 times and so on. It's not so hard to understand than you train your hearing, but it's still our Baltic language that it's so close and so far.
Amazing, I´m so glad it´s not extinct yet, they need to make a facebook page, a group and a site promoting the language, with lessons, sound files, etc!!! Please, could someone add English subs to this video?
@@Lapcenoks what exactly do you understand...because I am Latvian, and I only recognise a couple of words, or number.. :D to me it sounds more like Lithuanian
@@dianarubene9790 Nē nu saproti, Ir vairāki iemesli kāpēc tā, bet es gribētu sacīt- jo tuvāk atrodies Prūšiem, jo labāk sapratīs. Piemērām Kurzemnieks labāk saprastu nekā kāds no Zemgales.Lietuvieši ir vēl tuvāk, tātad viņi saprot vēl labāk.
Old prussian language is not dead there is some lithuanians who can speak it ...i can even give you a link where people teaching you to learn prussian language... there is even Lithuanian-prussian vocabulary
as a latvian listening to this, accent sounds soothing, yet words are not intelligeble. as soon as he starts naming numbers, my ears perk up and understand every single number he counts. most of the words just pass by as lithuanian lol. kursisk valuod(curonian language) sounds much more like latvian, but not entirely.
@Tomytoism Grammar Relicts of historical neuter are almost fully extinct while in standard Lithuanian some isolated forms remain. Those forms are replaced by masculine ones in Samogitian. Samogitian stress is mobile but often retracted at the end of words, and is also characterised by pitch accent. Samogitian has a broken tone like the Latvian and Danish languages
o-o Quite honestly............. I forgot about this conversation completely. But I agree with you on that. And a lot of the pages now have several resources.
@Biofishable I know that today in West Lithuania (Samogitia) they speak with Danish dealect) and about Genetics..research was made in 2004 for and revealed that Lithuanians,Latvians and Estonians have Finnish genetics...which is only found in Lithuania,Latvia,Estonia,Finland and Sweden.
Fragliche deut. Uebersetzung von Google. Draugas heisst eher Freund und tautas Volk. Dann heisst es korrekt: (Ich bin ein) Freund des prussischen Volkes.
@iSaulius it's considered as dead but there are people in lithuania,germany,latvia or poland that can speak prussian there is a dictionary Lithuania-Prussian language..and there is prussian language forum there people communicate in prussian and teach others who want to learn prussian language.
"Kailis" -- "Greetings" in Prussian. Is there a strong movement in Poland to bring this language back? There is one in Great Britain to bring back Cornish. It would be interesting to bring back a language that pre-dates the Teutonic Knights and Polish expansion. If it can be done in the British Isles, i.e., Irish, Manx, and Cornish, then it can be done along the Baltic. I wonder what amber is called in Prussian?
I'm interested in learning Old Prussian. Are William Schmalstieg's (expensive) books worth acquiring for this endeavor? Are there other materials worth obtaining?
@verdefull Actually language is considered to be dead, when there are no people speaking the language as the first language (since your birth). When people will start teaching their kids Prussian as a first language it will be revived for sure. On the other hand, there are no native Prussians alive.... Or a very small chance. So knowing a language doesn't make you Prussian :) Btw very nice vid, It is really familiar to Lithuanian, but all I understood it has smth to do with history :)
@verdefull aye, and that's why shitload of central, northern and eastern europe hidronims are baltics language origin :) and that's why linguist's says that lithuanian is most archaic language in indo-europen tree of languages :)
So what language were they speaking in the Prussian territories just prior to joining Brandenburg? Were they speaking German because of the Teutonic conquests?
@Lighthouse Pictures As this Prussian forum doesn't exist, perhaps you could change the information in the description? Today the actual Prussian resource is here twanksta.org/en/
Don't worry, there is a country for all types of people and for total multiculturalism called USA. European countries especially the smaller ones, shouldn't work that way because they have their own strong culture.
Kā Latvietim puse no teksta man ir saprotama, tas ir tas pats kā Vidzemē ap Gaiziņu vecie runā, neloka vārdus kā latgaļi bet mainīta galotne. Vārdu saknes visas ir Latviešu. Tuvāka Latviešu valodai nekā Leišiem.
i want to join the forum baddly Im american with family that moved to america from west prussia in 1891 from a town that is now on the border of poland and germany. I am currently learning standard German, and would love to learn Prussian but the forum is not understandable cause I can not translate the website in order to join. lol
I’m Lithuanian and I understand around 80% of this talk. Clearly it’s a Baltic language. I don’t hear any German in it. Lietuviai, jeigu gerai isiklausytumet i teksta, tikrai suprastumet didziaja dali.
Kaīls/Hello! Maybe if someone needs the modern Prussian more, you can watch it on Prussian TV (Prūsiska Tāliwidāsna) channel or see some information here twanksta.org/en/ as Prussian forum doesn't work. This audio we recorded about 15 years ago. And now there are better examples of modern Prussian language.
also our tribes have liven here about 8000 years but latvians only 2000 years (i mean real baltics) when baltic-slavic tribes came, they pushed our tribes to north and north but once before these ancestors our territories were to until wisla river and we had big lands in east-russia and scandinavia. all baltica were thousands years ago us. there are a lot of names what are finno ugrics
Wikipedia is good for getting a general idea of things, but it is definately worth it to cross reference that info with other more deticated literature. I don't think Wikipedia sets out to bend the truth or falsify anything though. I believe they have the best intensions in mind.
I know that there were first settlers in baltics germans,danish and finno-ugric...In history it's said that scandinavian and germans was even in Gudia today (Belearusia) and (Karelia) today russia territory border wit finland ,slavs pushed balts near to the coast today Lithuania,Latvia and Estonia.today you might only find some influence of scandinavian only in 3 baltic countrys..but not in todays belarusia ...in karelia there are still some karelians living there...etc
@BrowTV Not exactly: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemannic_German#Status There’s a lot of such disputed languages like Silesian/Polish, Rusyn/Ukrainian, Okinawan/Japanese…
@eestimaalane ..Samogitians (zemaiciai)lower lithuanians...speaks with danish dealect...and in history it was said that First Lithuanians settlers was from Germany and Denmark after few years....was formed Baltic culture(balts)..and Tatics diary said that there where Sebs germanic culture who they said that they are related to Balts.
The West Baltic Old Prussian language speakers were peacefully assimilated into the ethnic German majority. The East Prussian Low German dialects are rich in Old Prussian Baltic words like alus for beer. A rich cultural mixture in German East Prussia!
Cool! Sounds like lithuanian who lives in Latvia, but speaks estonian with german accent:D
loooool, geras
🤣😂
That's because Prussia made Latvia n Lithuania we are not German but Baltic Slavic I watched a video bout the history of Prussia
I am the last of the Prussian in my family my great great grandpa n grandma came from Prussia to America before Hitler killed Prussia off I will kill to bring my family's country back HAIL OLD BALTIC PRUSSIA
@@Justin-qe5uw славяне...это група языка. Прусы языковой групы балтов, никак не связаные с вашими бреднями.
Sound looks Lithuanian vs Latvian mix.
Rai Pau i think this is the best description of the language
But just the sounds, it´s realted but not a mix of these Baltic sisters.
no shit, its baltic
I agree, but it's more towards lithuanian
because this is not oldprussian, it is a Lithuanian vs Latvian mix.
I understand some bits. I was born in Latvia however some of my relatives are still living in Germany. And by the way my relatives and ancestors were Prussians. Sadly only few are still alive :(
My family is from the colony Traunicht, from the kingdom of Prussia
Traci Scheelk Nope, the teuton german knights invaded latvians and old prussians. Germanization began. Though latvian still stayed intact, old prussian still existed until the teuton knights union with brandenburg. They were no longed old prussian anymore. They became germans. And under hitlers controll, the prussians were persecuted and made german. Soviets just continued it.
My family are also from Eastprussia they had some familymember from Latvia but they also they had ancestors from the old baltic prussia. It is sad that they had to öeave their land where they lived for 900-1000 years : ( Also in my family there are just two alive who are from Prussia.
They were German Prussian or Baltic Prussian?
It's so beautiful... ❤ I can understand some words, but in general, the way of speaking, intonation, pronunciation, these sound so familiar, even if I don't get the meaning. Well, dear Balts, brothers and sisters, we must do everything to keep the remaining Baltic languages alive.
My great great grandpa n grandma came from Prussia before Hitler killed Prussia off I will kill to bring my family's country back HAIL OLD BALTIC PRUSSIA
Woah, this is crazy, sounds almost like Lithuanian with a funky accent, lol. o_o
+RainDevour ツ Lmfao it does, sounds like someone trying to learn Lithuanian.
sounds like latvian trying to speak lithuanian.
Hahaha, true
what a beautiful city Koenigsberg was, full of history, never suffered any damage for 700years up to the WW2 and then almost entirely obliterated and reconstructed in a soviet brutalistic fashion. So sad.
ps: my dad is from Gdansk for many generations and my surname is prussian so I feel some connection.
What's your surname?
My great great grandpa n grandma came from Prussia to America before Hitler killed us off I'm the last of the family bloodline HAIL OLD BALTIC PRUSSIA
Had it been given to Poland or Lithuania, this wouldn't have happened and Konigsberg would have been reborn
For Lithuanian/Latvian speaker its almost perfectly understandable. :)
***** I am Latvian and I understood only a very few words.
***** That is true. I did understand a lot from this video. I'm latvian and I'm learning german. Knowing german really helps to understand prussian.
+MrMarks101 Western Baltic languages like Prussian are a bit different from Eastern Baltic languages like Lithuanian and Latvian. They have all been killed off with the slaughter and enslavement of those who were seen as demonic with their language and pagan culture, but those who took on German as a language survived and we now speak a dialect of German with some Baltic words, like Suris is cheese, krupi are shoes, kujel is a boar, merjal is girl, kladdig is a juniper, alus is beer, krepsh is a basket, wabel is bug, pirschlis is a matchmaker, pakrant is the edge, crust or the coastline of something, and parpas is a fern. But mostly we speak German or Russian after being sent to Siberia to work in labour camps until the end of the Soviet Union. Now they use North Korean slaves who think that they are doing their duty for their nation. Asma prusiskai sklaits as ni bilai billan. (I'm Prussian but I cannot speak the language.)
HojoOSanagi Wow, thank you for your information exchange. That is interesting. A few of the words you mentioned are very very similar to Latvian. I can name a few - Siers is Cheese, Kurpes are Shoes, Meitene or Meiča is Girl, Alus is beer (The same in Latvian), Vabole is bug (Beetle more specificly). Since Bishop Albert, who was german, was the one to find Riga, the capital of Latvia. So durring that period a lot of germans came to Latvia and i believe that is why Latvian has a few commonalities with German. It would be very interesting if Prussia still existed, in stead of freaking small Russia (Kalinigrad).
+HojoOSanagi Bilai=Latviešu bilst
Very interesting to listen to this. For a Latvian who knows that only language similar to my language is Lithuanian, it’s almost wierd to hear another language with similar words in it. It’s like a mix of both of the languages. 😁
I'm the last of the family bloodline of old Prussia my Great great grandpa n grandma came from Prussia to America before Hitler killed us off HAIL OLD BALTIC PRUSSIA my Great great grandpa last name was Ziehm Germany took everything n made us part of them
That's surprising! I am a Lithuanian, and I can understand pretty well...
I have almost always admired prussians, and every Estonian knows, that this land is not russians land and not germans, but it was long time ago prussians land. I have heard they were good fighters :D
RIP Jonas Trinkūnas.
This reminds me of my grandpa. Rest in peace Oopi.
It's been 3 years already and I've always come here to listen to some spoken prussian. People around me say it's "ugly" but I find it so relaxing... At least how you speak it :) Thanks so much for sharing.
Beautiful language, beautiful people #BalticPride #PaganPride
Passages of the Bible translated into Old Prussian are the historical documents that form the basis for the revival of the language.
Lithuanian - Latvian language mashup
Dam so good.Sad that it died.
@@potatopcz6042 Kuršiskai
@@potatopcz6042 it's not dead
Sound like the samogitian dialect of Lithuanian
Im Lithuanian and I understand more of this than Samogitian :D :D :D Btw I have watched a video interview with 3 brothers and it was said to be confirmed to be Prussian and it sounded like a mix of Lithuanian and German. So it contained 50% more of German than this one.
Old Prussians or Baltic Prussians (Old Prussian: Prūsai; German: Pruzzen or Prußen; Latin: Pruteni; Latvian: Prūši; Lithuanian: Prūsai; Polish: Prusowie; Kashubian: Prësowié) refers to the indigenous peoples from a cluster of Baltic tribes that inhabited the region of Prussia. This region lent its name to the later state of Prussia (see King in Prussia). It was located on the south-eastern shore of the Baltic Sea between the Vistula Lagoon to the west and the Curonian Lagoon to the east. The people spoke a language now known as Old Prussian and followed pagan Prussian mythology.
My dad just did a DNA test and he found that from his German side he has at least 11% Russian, 4% Baltic and 4% Swedish. My only Guess is the cross cultural area of the eastern Prussian area is where this would have happened.
I'm Lithuanian it's sounds Lithuanian and Latvian
I understand the half of this, it`s nearly the same as modern latvian
same for me but i'm lithuanian
Funny: Wikipedia states that Eastern and Western Baltic languages are not mutually intelligible.
They slightly are. As Latvian, I could understand some words.
@@iamcleaver6854 I am Latvian and barely pick up some words, I don't know what these other people are picking up...but I could not tell you what he is talking about..
@@dianarubene9790 Klausytis reikia ne vieną kartą, kad ausis priprastų, dar lengviau suprasti kai yra parašyta
Some parts are very simmilar to latvian (especially when year is being said) and lithuanian, but then again you can hear germanic words.
IF SOME ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN PRUSSIAN LANGAUGE I CANT GIVE YOU THE LINK OF VOCABULAR OR I KNOW FEW PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK PRUSSIAN...
Yes Please
I thought there is nuobody alive who can speak Prussian 🤔
@@vaiciciaku if you go southern Brazil it's still spoken in some Rural villages by descendents of imigrants of balten Deustch. They keep the language and it's widely spoken at home, the Portuguese is just a second language. Unhappy it's dying... Only few of the youngest generation are learning and speaking.
@@rvonf5880 nope, that is the Prussian variety of German. This video is in a Baltic language named Prussian, not related to German
2004 dnr revieled that Lithuanians are closests to latvian,estonian and finnish people by it;s dnr research.
Very similar to my language(latvian) and of course lithaunian. Such a shame that it's extinct now.
Skaista valoda nav šaubu!
That's because old Prussia made up lavtia n Lithuania I saw it in a video it's based on hundreds of years ago brother
People still speak Prusa
Prussia wasn't originally German. Before the Knights came it had close national relations with the Baltics. (cousins? :)) That's why the language doesn't sound Germanic. Perhaps with the introduction of German immigrants the chief language changed so that by the time it became a kingdom everyone was speaking German.
NOW it's fandom time. (fact > fiction) If Gilbert was the Teutonic Knights and afterwards the Kingdom of Prussia, then who was the post kingdom Prussia? My headcanon is that there was an Ancient Old Prussia. When the Kingdom was founded, he died and Gilbert became the new "modern" Prussia.
From my understanding Prussians themselves are (or were, more precisely?) Germans who got Baltinized (right word for it? :D) and developed their own Baltic styled language with german language influence.
THe Prussian kingdom only was prussian in name. It was ruled by germans for germans. By the 16th century prussian culture and language was basically dead already.
Yeah, it wasn't until the collapse of the holy roman empire they started speaking German. Primarily because of Brandenburg taking over (It's a German state so they spoke German).
Flitter Mouse Christening of Prussia happened to be much earlier that Lithiania, hence they lost ties as they become very different in all means how pagan can be different to early Christian
Prussians were never Germans. Real Rrussians were genocided, and Teutonic order wanted to do the same to Latvia and Lithuania. Prussians were unlucky to be the closest to german tribes and isolated from their baltic brothers.
Nav nemaz tā, ļoti daudz kuršu valodas līdzību, tāpat arī baltu cilmes vārdu, ja tu lasīt to pierakstītu, saprastu krietni vairāk. Un jāsaprot, ka šī jau ir mākslīgi atjaunotā valoda, vecā prūšu valdu nu jau vairs nekad nedzirdēsim. Ja skatīsi latviešu kaķismu, ko tulkojuši vācieši un izlasīsi pēc lietuviskās fonētiskas, tad arī neko beigās nevarēsi saprast.
Ze wszystkich Staropruskich nazw krain geograficznych pozostałych na terytorium obecnej Polski pozostała w niezmienionej formie i używanej współczesnie jedynie nazwa Warmia.
As an Englishman I found this interesting as I was told the language of the Pru was dead so I listened and found it to be quite
pleasant to the ear much the same as the Sax. The language's all must be connected along this coast and beyond after the swarming to the south after the collapse of the Roman Empire
this language isnt closely related to german at all, closer to lithuanian and latvian. it always gets confused because the german kingdom of prussia shares the name.
i read from wikipedia that in estonia 33% of population are real finno-ugrics who have lived here about 8000 years,also there are said that in latvia and lietuva this % is 41% in latvia and 42-43% (these finnougric genes come from fatherline)what that means? it means that a lot of curelians,estonians, livonians were assimilating thousands years ago and took baltic language to mother tongue.genetical-resourches show that we are like one nation- we ,most of us have same genes.
Geras! Skamba, lyg lietuvis, gyvenantis Latvijoj, kalbantis estiškai su vokišku akcentu:D
Thank you so much for sharing this !
How about those from Königlish Preussen including full of Polish language speakers Ermland and Masuria region of Ducal Prussia who also spoke a dialect of Polish? What was the identity of those people during 1466-1772 when Royal Prussia was a part of Poland and Ducal Prussia for two thirds of this period was a vassal state of Poland?
9 years later - My mother's family was from Mazury - Nidzica area. Homeland of W Galindians and other Old Prussian tribes. The area was colonized primarily by Mazovian Poles, with some Germans and other European colonizers. They, including my grandparents and other ancestors, spoke the Mazovian dialect of Mazuren, which is about one fourth or more Slavicized Old Prussian, with some Low German. A few thousand in Mazury still identify as Mazuren, with some still speaking it. After WWII, many Mazurens moved into Poland, just as Poles into Mazury and other parts of southern East Prussia vacated after the diaspora of those with German ethnicity. Old Prussians mixed with both Germans and Mazovian Poles over the course of the centuries, giving rise to unique melting pot cultures. We also must remember the Lithuanians of the former East Prussia as well. Many of the families that immigrated to the area of US that I am from have Old Prussian root surnames, ie Bartoszczeski, Poganski, after Old Prussian tribes. My great -great grandmother's maiden name was Preuss. My ancestors formed a small Mazuren community here, speaking Mazuren at home, German, probably Low, in church, and English with their children and for trade. There was minor prejudice from Polish communities for both being East Prussian and Lutheran. Mazuren was a slur - the Mazovian in them didn't count - they were considered different. Thanx for inquiring. Most Old Prussians were mixed with Germans. The Mazurens are often overlooked in these discussions. I've been flat out told we don't exist, either by trolls or the ignorant. Yet Mazuren is studied in the reconstruction of Old Prussian, and in Poland, pre WWII ethnic Mazurens are sought for a genetic study of their Old Prussian/Mazovian/Lipka Tatar roots. My other side is Irish/German so I can't participate. The small settlements of ethnic communities in rural US are less isolated and in the melting pot.
It sad people dont preserve their language. A quite big population but no preservation of the culture, Its not 500 years ago. Thanx for sound and video! Miss you from Swe!
As A native Lithuanian speaker almost everything I understand, to completely understand I must see how it's written.
As mēri, ni wissan ast tēt lāngu : ) Ast wirdāi, kawīdans tū mazīlai dīgi ni izprestun, adder jā - tū turri labban āusins !!!!
It's hard to understand, ear must adopt to person that speak. 10 times I listen to understand, some words at the same moment I hear understand, some 2-3 times and so on. It's not so hard to understand than you train your hearing, but it's still our Baltic language that it's so close and so far.
@@ugnikalnis Jā, stawīda tāli, stawīda taūwa! //// Brendu druwītwei, kāi tū mazzi izprestun tēt tūlan!!! Rikīwiskan!
Amazing, I´m so glad it´s not extinct yet, they need to make a facebook page, a group and a site promoting the language, with lessons, sound files, etc!!! Please, could someone add English subs to this video?
Sounds like drunk Latvian)))))))))
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This is Baltic language family right? Sounds like it
Alex Chen Yes it is.
Perfectly fine, its 100% baltic (lithuanian, latvian) language. As latvian i can understand about 80% of this ancient speech
@@Lapcenoks what exactly do you understand...because I am Latvian, and I only recognise a couple of words, or number.. :D to me it sounds more like Lithuanian
@@dianarubene9790 Would be logical, they lived closer to Lithuania
@@dianarubene9790 Nē nu saproti, Ir vairāki iemesli kāpēc tā, bet es gribētu sacīt- jo tuvāk atrodies Prūšiem, jo labāk sapratīs. Piemērām Kurzemnieks labāk saprastu nekā kāds no Zemgales.Lietuvieši ir vēl tuvāk, tātad viņi saprot vēl labāk.
Old prussian language is not dead there is some lithuanians who can speak it ...i can even give you a link where people teaching you to learn prussian language... there is even Lithuanian-prussian vocabulary
as a latvian listening to this, accent sounds soothing, yet words are not intelligeble. as soon as he starts naming numbers, my ears perk up and understand every single number he counts. most of the words just pass by as lithuanian lol. kursisk valuod(curonian language) sounds much more like latvian, but not entirely.
thank you for upload this ;)
@Tomytoism Grammar
Relicts of historical neuter are almost fully extinct while in standard Lithuanian some isolated forms remain. Those forms are replaced by masculine ones in Samogitian. Samogitian stress is mobile but often retracted at the end of words, and is also characterised by pitch accent. Samogitian has a broken tone like the Latvian and Danish languages
o-o Quite honestly............. I forgot about this conversation completely. But I agree with you on that. And a lot of the pages now have several resources.
the sound is wonderfully similar to ancient greek
Sounds like a cooler accent of a Lithuanian dialect.
Like how the texan accent is cooler than midwest accent for US.
But nice reconstruction and great video it's now in my favorites
@Biofishable I know that today in West Lithuania (Samogitia) they speak with Danish dealect) and about Genetics..research was made in 2004 for and revealed that Lithuanians,Latvians and Estonians have Finnish genetics...which is only found in Lithuania,Latvia,Estonia,Finland and Sweden.
Nice Language... :) little bit understand :) draugan prusiskan tautan
Fragliche deut. Uebersetzung von Google. Draugas heisst eher Freund und tautas Volk. Dann heisst es korrekt: (Ich bin ein) Freund des prussischen Volkes.
I am Latvian and I picked up a number of words and phrases
@iSaulius it's considered as dead but there are people in lithuania,germany,latvia or poland that can speak prussian there is a dictionary Lithuania-Prussian language..and there is prussian language forum there people communicate in prussian and teach others who want to learn prussian language.
Hi can you drop a link?
They had one of the best militaries in the world.
"Kailis" -- "Greetings" in Prussian. Is there a strong movement in Poland to bring this language back? There is one in Great Britain to bring back Cornish. It would be interesting to bring back a language that pre-dates the Teutonic Knights and Polish expansion. If it can be done in the British Isles, i.e., Irish, Manx, and Cornish, then it can be done along the Baltic. I wonder what amber is called in Prussian?
How was this reconstructed? Very interesting.
Numbers are almost exaclty like latvian (which I am) but words rarely.
@MrDestroyer3000 they can't but meny understand cuz it's very very similar to lithuanian..prussians was closest to lithuanians cuz they were balts.
Oh my, I didn't even notice! O.o I must be more tired than I thought......
Mielitietty in Finnish means sweetheart, beloved
Finnish Pesutupa in prussian Spektāstuba bathroom
I am Lithuanian and understood almost 80%
very cute language;P
I'm interested in learning Old Prussian. Are William Schmalstieg's (expensive) books worth acquiring for this endeavor? Are there other materials worth obtaining?
Fine,have to revive!
You can hear the Scandinavian influence.
There are certainly some Latvian overtones / words in there..
@verdefull Actually language is considered to be dead, when there are no people speaking the language as the first language (since your birth). When people will start teaching their kids Prussian as a first language it will be revived for sure. On the other hand, there are no native Prussians alive.... Or a very small chance. So knowing a language doesn't make you Prussian :) Btw very nice vid, It is really familiar to Lithuanian, but all I understood it has smth to do with history :)
@verdefull aye, and that's why shitload of central, northern and eastern europe hidronims are baltics language origin :) and that's why linguist's says that lithuanian is most archaic language in indo-europen tree of languages :)
Stesse paggan mes stwi skaistāimai, kaddan tēr zmūnei erzināwusis ezze prūsans, kāi tenēi bēi labbans kareūsnikans.
So what language were they speaking in the Prussian territories just prior to joining Brandenburg? Were they speaking German because of the Teutonic conquests?
Can anyone provide the translation for the audio?
@Lighthouse Pictures As this Prussian forum doesn't exist, perhaps you could change the information in the description? Today the actual Prussian resource is here twanksta.org/en/
Don't worry, there is a country for all types of people and for total multiculturalism called USA. European countries especially the smaller ones, shouldn't work that way because they have their own strong culture.
Is it closer to Latvian or Lithuanian?
Kā Latvietim puse no teksta man ir saprotama, tas ir tas pats kā Vidzemē ap Gaiziņu vecie runā, neloka vārdus kā latgaļi bet mainīta galotne. Vārdu saknes visas ir Latviešu. Tuvāka Latviešu valodai nekā Leišiem.
+Ulve Rumba Kas ir leiši?
+Lenny Soshinskiy leiši ir lietuvieši
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@@rolandsarins7151 leiši ir kā mums latgaļi -čangaļi
i want to join the forum baddly Im american with family that moved to america from west prussia in 1891 from a town that is now on the border of poland and germany. I am currently learning standard German, and would love to learn Prussian but the forum is not understandable cause I can not translate the website in order to join. lol
Have you had any success since writing this comment?
The link doesn't work for me plz help
Im latvian and i understand some things - Numbers are the same and some other things ;)
I’m Lithuanian and I understand around 80% of this talk. Clearly it’s a Baltic language. I don’t hear any German in it. Lietuviai, jeigu gerai isiklausytumet i teksta, tikrai suprastumet didziaja dali.
My people... all gone 😢
@iSaulius There are Prussian people still. I am west Prussian, our state might be died, but Prussia lives in us. I speak German.
Kaīls/Hello! Maybe if someone needs the modern Prussian more, you can watch it on Prussian TV (Prūsiska Tāliwidāsna) channel or see some information here twanksta.org/en/ as Prussian forum doesn't work. This audio we recorded about 15 years ago. And now there are better examples of modern Prussian language.
also our tribes have liven here about 8000 years but latvians only 2000 years (i mean real baltics) when baltic-slavic tribes came, they pushed our tribes to north and north but once before these ancestors our territories were to until wisla river and we had big lands in east-russia and scandinavia. all baltica were thousands years ago us. there are a lot of names what are finno ugrics
Wikipedia is good for getting a general idea of things, but it is definately worth it to cross reference that info with other more deticated literature. I don't think Wikipedia sets out to bend the truth or falsify anything though. I believe they have the best intensions in mind.
I know that there were first settlers in baltics germans,danish and finno-ugric...In history it's said that scandinavian and germans was even in Gudia today (Belearusia) and (Karelia) today russia territory border wit finland ,slavs pushed balts near to the coast today Lithuania,Latvia and Estonia.today you might only find some influence of scandinavian only in 3 baltic countrys..but not in todays belarusia ...in karelia there are still some karelians living there...etc
as latvian i understand 90%
Gal būtų galima gauti skaitomą tekstą? Ir būtų įdomu sužinoti skaitančiojo tautybę (nors gal labiau gimtąją kalbą).
It sounds like Lithuanian/Latvian mixed with Old Polish for me...like our Commonwealth :)
Greetings from Poland!
I Live here and I really want to reborn this language. The link to the forum is not working. Is there still any community?
you can see more Prussian on PRŪSA TV and twanksta.org/en/
Latgalian, latvian and lithuanian combined? Some places are literally like latvian, some like lithuaninan, some - latgalian, this is so interesting.
@BrowTV Latgalian is a different language than Latvian. You can say it is a dialect but Latgalians say otherwise.
@BrowTV It's not the same thing. Latgalian is another language similar to Latvian. Swiss German is a variation (dialect) of the same Language.
@BrowTV
Not exactly:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemannic_German#Status
There’s a lot of such disputed languages like Silesian/Polish, Rusyn/Ukrainian, Okinawan/Japanese…
@eestimaalane ..Samogitians (zemaiciai)lower lithuanians...speaks with danish dealect...and in history it was said that First Lithuanians settlers was from Germany and Denmark after few years....was formed Baltic culture(balts)..and Tatics diary said that there where Sebs germanic culture who they said that they are related to Balts.
@verdefull Give to me that link.
You should put subtitles in Prussian and in English.
Красиво.Где этот язык можно выучить?
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Nice! But I don't understand a word.
I didn’t know they spoke Hungarian.
This is not an old prussian.... it's one of few versions of newprussian. that one being a Lithuanian vs Latvian mix.
sounds like latvian to me.
The West Baltic Old Prussian language speakers were peacefully assimilated into the ethnic German majority. The East Prussian Low German dialects are rich in Old Prussian Baltic words like alus for beer. A rich cultural mixture in German East Prussia!
Numbers sounds identical to Lithuanian.
Es nebiju iedomājies, ka runāju tik dižciltīgā valodā!
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@Biofishable very long way all the way to America and Russia and other places
Prussian still alive in our traditions watch this videos: Preußens chilenischen Militärparaden